Masters Sunday: Rory McIlroy wins again at Augusta National
133 min
•Apr 13, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
The Shotgun Start podcast covers Rory McIlroy's back-to-back Masters victories, analyzing his evolution as a golfer from a power-based player to a strategic, grind-it-out competitor. The hosts discuss course setup debates, standout performances from Cameron Young and Justin Rose, and broader concerns about the Masters' commercialization and merchandise focus.
Insights
- McIlroy's second Masters win demonstrates maturity and adaptability—he won without his best ball-striking, relying instead on course management, short-game excellence, and mental resilience after a six-shot lead collapse
- Augusta National's setup challenges are rooted in equipment distance, not course softness; greens management requires balancing playability with firmness, and criticism without alternative proposals lacks substance
- Cameron Young's loss reveals that elite shot-making doesn't guarantee major wins; putting performance under pressure remains the differentiator between contenders and champions
- The Masters is experiencing tension between growth (merchandise, celebrity presence, social media) and tradition (organic atmosphere, focus on competition over spectacle)
- Scotty Scheffler's frustration with unequal conditions reflects a broader player concern about fairness, though golf's outdoor nature makes identical conditions impossible
Trends
Major championship golf increasingly rewards course management and mental toughness over raw talent and distanceEquipment distance (ball and clubs) is forcing major championships to make difficult setup decisions that pit playability against challengeMerchandise and celebrity integration at historic tournaments risks diluting brand identity and fan experience qualityEuropean golfers (McIlroy, Rose, Faldo) continue to dominate major championships despite PGA Tour consolidation effortsPost-major player narratives now focus on preparation methods (Rory's three-week Augusta residency) as competitive advantagePutting performance under major championship pressure remains the most predictive factor for victory, not driving distanceGolf media criticism of course setup often lacks constructive alternatives, relying on statistics rather than on-course observationBack-to-back major wins are becoming more common, suggesting improved player consistency and course familiarity strategies
Topics
Rory McIlroy's Masters victory and career trajectoryGolf course setup and agronomy at Augusta NationalEquipment distance and its impact on major championship designCameron Young's major championship potential and putting performanceJustin Rose's competitive resilience and near-miss at AugustaScotty Scheffler's fairness concerns and competitive mindsetShort-game excellence as differentiator in major championshipsMasters merchandise and commercialization concernsEuropean golfers' dominance in modern major championshipsPlayer preparation strategies for major tournamentsWind and weather impact on course difficultyPGA Tour vs. LIV Golf competitive dynamicsBroadcast coverage quality and shot selectionCelebrity presence and social media at the MastersConduct violations and new rules enforcement at majors
Companies
Mercedes-Benz
Primary sponsor of The Shotgun Start podcast coverage; featured GLS SUV as transportation during Masters week
Augusta National Golf Club
Host venue for the Masters tournament; subject of extensive discussion regarding course setup, agronomy, and commerci...
PGA Tour
Discussed in context of player preparation, scheduling conflicts, and competitive dynamics with LIV Golf
LIV Golf
Mentioned regarding player preparation and competitive positioning relative to major championships
CBS Sports
Masters broadcast partner; criticized for coverage gaps and failure to track key contenders during final round
ESPN
Credited with legitimizing celebrity presence at Masters through coverage of Tiger Woods and Lindsey Vonn at Par-3 Co...
People
Rory McIlroy
Two-time Masters champion; subject of extensive analysis regarding his evolution as a player and back-to-back victories
Cameron Young
Final group contender who played excellent golf but missed crucial putts on Sunday; represents next generation of maj...
Justin Rose
Took lead mid-round but faltered down stretch; analyzed for competitive intensity and meticulous game management
Scotty Scheffler
Finished second; discussed extensively for fairness concerns regarding course conditions and competitive mindset
Kevin Van Volkenberg
Guest contributor providing feature coverage and analysis of McIlroy's evolution and tournament dynamics
Jack Nicklaus
Mentioned for historical context and advice given to McIlroy about wind management at hole 12
Nick Faldo
Tied with McIlroy at six major championships; walked with hosts and provided commentary on McIlroy's achievement
Tiger Woods
Referenced for historical Masters context and influence on modern tournament atmosphere and celebrity integration
Sergio Garcia
Criticized for conduct violations and poor performance; received code of conduct warning for breaking driver
Bryson DeChambeau
Referenced as last year's final group competitor and for bunker shot comparison on hole 18
Jordan Spieth
Discussed as potential future Masters contender and for his course setup commentary
Justin Thomas
Mentioned in context of future Masters potential and major championship competitiveness
Luke Donald
Provided commentary affirming McIlroy as the best European golfer of all time
Adam Scott
Provided press conference commentary on Justin Rose's intensity and competitive focus
Fred Ridley
Referenced for Wednesday announcements regarding tournament direction and PGA Tour relationship
Quotes
"I felt like I've had a ton of experiences at that course, both good and bad, played in a bunch of multiple final groups and, you know, kind of seen it all and all of those have, you know, boiled into the, that journey that he had last year."
Rory McIlroy (referenced)•Early discussion of McIlroy's experience
"I had this number 15, 15 under in my head, right? And so like my goal of what I wanted to get to today, I thought that would win for sure."
Rory McIlroy (referenced)•Post-round press conference discussion
"He's effing amazing... 12 is the whole deal. 12 was the whole key. Golden bell was the whole where he won the masters."
Nick Faldo•Post-victory conversation with McIlroy
"I think that he's quite an intense competitor, Justin. I don't think anyone should be surprised by that, given his showing again this week, his showing here last year."
Adam Scott•Press conference commentary on Justin Rose
"What does that mean? Because he doesn't make eight birdies? How much closer do you want me to hit it?"
Cameron Young•Post-round press conference response to aggression question
Full Transcript
Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Greetings and welcome to a Sunday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is April 12th. Andy, how we doing? Brendan! It is victory Monday for our gambling pod. On the board, on the board, you went, you kind of oaky-doked, you deaked us into a Rory pick on the preview podcast. You went there, congrats to you, pound for that. We're two for two. Now we've gone back to back. There's all sorts of, I picked Rory last year, you picked Rory this year. There's a notion that Rory hasn't won a master since PJ Clark joined the Shotgun Start Friday Golf Enterprises. There's all sorts of good trends going right now. We have two fabulous masters in a row. It was another awesome Sunday. Different Sunday. Different, did you say? Yeah. Yeah, certainly way more out in the open. We're going to dive right into it. We're going to bring in boys, we're going to bring in men like Kevin Van Volkenberg, who's tracking, who's writing for tomorrow morning. We say different, very different. I think when we started this podcast last year, we were like, we were like exhausted on the floor with just the roller coaster of emotion, like always the worst loss, the greatest win, everything, the way they started. It was already an incredible story before we ever hit a shot. Today it felt like really scrambled. I didn't know where to necessarily start. I watched a lot of it on the early stuff on television in the media center. Started with Rose, like kind of went up to Scotty, fell back to Rory by 13. It was really open there and a totally different Sunday. Yeah. I went out with Scotty to start and I obviously, the shot, I mean, like things are going to be lost to the tournament. Like the shot I hit on one was absolutely disgusting. Dirty from the, from the tree. Yeah. It's like he starts out with a birdie and you're like, oh, he's going. Then all of a sudden, you know, you get Rose going and Rory falls back. I mean, I was jumping around and I had to take a pause, go into the press center and just regroup and just take a lens of like everything going on. And, you know, I kind of regrouped and went back out for the back nine and it, what, I mean, the magic of Augusta National is that it is just this, you know, it's such a great chaser's course because if you are chasing, you could really hit shots and score. But then also it's the hardest course to play with a lead. And we've seen that, we saw that obviously with Rory all weekend. I feel like the psychology of how you play the golf course. And Scotty talked about it in his, his post round press conference. It's a hard place to play with a lead. It's hard to play to play with a big, big lead because you get a little bit more defensive and the second you get a little more defensive, you just bring in the bigger numbers while other guys can, that are chasing can play a little bit, notch up that aggressiveness. And we saw it all the day where, you know, slow start for Rory and it looked like for a second, it was just going to be Cameron Young show, you know, and then we get, you know, we get Rose and Scotty searching up the leader, leaderboard. And you think, okay, it's going to be, you know, maybe it's Rose's time. When Rose went to 12, it was like, all right, well, it's his time. What if the fans seemed to rally around that? Like, you know, smartest fans in golf, the whole thing, like, like really, really rallying around Rose when he went to 12. Like, all right, guys been like a hard luck, bridesmaid a couple of times. The wounds from 25 were still fresh and it felt like it was going to be roses to lose. You talked about chasing and leading Rory now has great experience doing both in each Sunday. He's been a leader. He's been a chaser. He's defended the lead at the end a couple of times now, wanted him to play off. He's kind of done everything. I was rewatching his every shot or every hole at Augusta this morning, just kind of prepping and he had this great quote at the 10 minute mark about, of that video about experience. He's like, look, I felt like I've had a ton of experiences at that course, both good and bad, played in a bunch of multiple final groups and, you know, kind of seen it all and all of those have, you know, boiled into the, that journey that he had last year. And it's just, I don't know, it keeps building on itself. This was a very different sort of, it was almost the 18th was not that release, right? I think the very special aspect of it was his parents being there. We'll talk about that. But it was sort of, because he put it to two inches, right? And then it's just this tap in. It was a very different kind of release and different kind of Sunday, but another, another incredible like experience he puts in the bucket for next year even. And we're not going to get to that now, but what, what a odd feel. I mean, it's not in a derogatory way. It was sort of an odd masters form, right? It wasn't always his best stuff. And it certainly didn't feel like he was going to win an hour and a half, two hours into it at all. And then by 14, it was like, I don't think anyone's going to like touch him. It was, it was a really different dynamic than last year. I mean, the golf course was really hard today. Oh, I don't know. We're going to have to, do we need to talk about the golf course? I don't know. We're told that Gusta National needs to be. The analytics people that were sitting on their couch might, might have other takes, but I thought, you know, the thing that was there today that wasn't there the previous two days, the wind. And it was, it was, you know, it was really interesting as just a, you know, somebody that's going around the grounds is like, you'd get into certain spots where you wouldn't feel anything and be really hot. Yeah. Then you get up on a ridge and you'd be like, whoa, it's really blowing out here. And it was, it was gusty. I don't think it was necessarily like, consistently, consistently steady. And I think that's when that golf course plays the trickiest, obviously, because you're like having to trust these numbers and the targets are so small. And I think that's what, what explains like, nobody really getting it going sustained all day. Like you could see people like, okay, they hit a couple of good shots. And then it's like, you just get there. And then it's like, I can't, you can't hit that high level shot and maybe you misjudge the wind. And the thing about Augusta, especially when it gets firm and it was pretty firm today, it was obviously very firm on Thursday. The targets are so tiny. And then if you add in wind, that's a little unpredictable and you're missing the target by one or two yards. I mean, like the perfect example was the six hole. And that back right corner was like, damn near impossible. Justin Rose hit a great shot in there, but like everybody else was either coming up short, some would go long, you know, and it was a... We got jammed by a wind there. Like, that was all wind. I mean, Trevor on the broadcast, I was watching like, that was a good shot. That was all wind. That changed, that changed. And I think you saw it too, is like, you know, hitting it, you know, cam shot into 15. Like a moment where he, you know, he needed to make an eagle or a birdie there. And he had a really good shot into 15. It was downwind and that green's firm and it just bounced through. But I think that that wind particularly made it really hard to sustain great scoring today. And I think that's why we saw this, you know, this jammed up leaderboard. And just so many different moments where you're like, this guy's going to win. This guy's going to win. This guy's going to win. The good news was, you know, there was one group in there that, you know, we didn't have to watch. I felt like it was the Lowry Burns group. Joseph and I, I know about the podcast, we're going to talk about this in the first 10 minutes. Joseph and I were workshopping some takes. Like the Masters used to not put tee times out by score necessarily. They would put like, you know, Jack or the lead, like the stars, Bob Jones would be somewhere in the middle. And I was like, he was like, dude, they just need to send those guys to the front and tell them to play five holes. We can make it an even 72. Pull Burns and Lowry off the off the course. Howton just causing it all out traffic jam backup, which I was there for. Howtons Brown was killing me at 13. Doesn't didn't know the rules started picking. He's in the red stakes, just picking the ball up. Incredible. Like an ice and Scotty. No, I didn't see it on one. What do you do? He piped a drive and then he choked. He laid sod on a wedge. I have in my notes. I have a note. I went out for how it's on Lee in the first 10 minutes. I have my notes. Howton Lee. So, you know, she's got, he's in the trees. Howtons right the fairway. Scott, he's this insane shot. Yeah. You know, and howtons just lay sod. He ends up, it lands like 15 yards short of the putting surface. He had a wedge. I mean, he had a wedge yet. And it was a two shot swing on the first hole. I've just put sheriff, sheriff makes the howtons arrest on hole one. You're right. The police puns in your notebook. I love that. No, I mean, there were just guys in the way there, but it was, it was sort of tough to trap. Howtons was even on 16. I don't even know what he ended up. Maybe the top 40. You might not have been in the top 40. Lamani and I were just like, you got to pull them out of there. I was going to say about the wind. That was the only moment of 13. I went up to catch Scotty and ended up with 20 minutes of howtons Lee ruling. And it was just like, what am I doing with my time right now? And that was the only moment it was quite, I thought it was going to be a boiler quite frankly, but the wind for us made it quite pleasant. I thought it was, I thought it was a pleasant evening on the hot side, but there was absolute wind present. It was kind of pleasant, breezy for us. The only time it got hot was when I was down there on 13 just waiting for howtons Lee to hack it on the book. I was like, this is so still. I'm getting hot right now. But it was a great day. The thing about the day is there's, and obviously everybody watching, you probably felt this frenetic pace and everything on the ground. It's like, we have to make calls about like where we're going. And it's just like, I found myself on the front nine just being just pulled a million directions. I'm like looking at the board and I'm like, oh, I got to go there. I got to go there. And that's why I had to call time out. I had to go back to the press center and I watched all the shots of the people in the mix. And I was like, okay, now I feel like I've got a clear head. I'd actually know what's going on and going back out there. I felt scrambled at times. I'll say, we'll get through this on our notes. I felt like this, you get lucky sometimes. I feel like I had like four or five instances today where I was like, God, I'm so happy I'm on the ground. Like really, like I got the goods and we'll get like, whether it was walking with Faldo, being next to Roy on 18, the range scene quite frankly was some of the best scene I've ever gotten with he and Cam. The wind stuff though, I noticed it, especially with Rose, I think that really jammed him. Like all of a sudden he was backing off his ball like nonstop at 10, 11, it's 12, you know, it's 12. 17, he backed off it. Yeah, it really, it started like, it started there around like, when he went, took the lead, when he quite frankly went to 12 and it was, there were, it was Gostin and swirling a little bit and he just, just got quickly uncomfortable and fell off obviously or just couldn't push the pace anymore. We should talk about Roy McIlroy probably. Yeah. Do we want to go legacy? We want to talk about his specific day today. I, I... Let's talk about his day. I think that's the best, the best path. You know, I, I, to have a six shot lead, to lose the six shot lead and then to go at one point, I think he was three back in the final round and to regroup. I mean, you could talk, there's good experience, bad experience, there's maturity and I think it just shows how much, you know, kind of grit the guy has where, you know, so many people to, if you lost a six shot lead in a single day, it would just be devastating to you. And then to come out of the gates the way he did, slow, have that, I mean, just, just a real bad double on four. Yeah. It was, it's kind of interesting. It sort of lined up with some of the grades he gave himself. Yeah. Like my irons were not good. It was a bad, like a big pull. I mean. Left of the bunker and pretty good wedge. Great, great chip. Good chip and then pulled the both putts. The second one was more unforgivable. The first one was hard. But like to be able to, you know, to be able to go down the way he did, I mean, the guy was 12 under through two days. And then he's standing on the seventh tee at nine under. And you're just, you, so many players would just be shell shocked. And I think we've seen Rory at different points in his career in younger, younger years in that state of shell shock. And it's just spirals out of control from there. The ability of regroup and be calm in that moment and understand, Hey, yeah, I've gotten some bad breaks. I hit a great shot on six that, you know, ended up long. Popped over. And that was a really tough spot to be. And to be able to just regroup and be like, basically the world, my world is not ending. And to, to kind of, you know, regroup, make a couple birdies, get back in the mix. And then like just understand, I think like it's so easy in that moment to, like you have this number, he said in this, his pro surround, like I had this number 15, 15 under in my head, right? And so like my goal of what I wanted to get to today, I thought that would win for sure. So you think about how you would feel if you started the day, 15 under is my number. And on the seventh tee, you're sitting at nine. He talked about it in that moment. Like I really like, if I didn't make those birdies seven and eight, I just, he didn't know, he was just going to have to go all gas the whole way through the back. Yeah. And then like you said, you know, he's standing there on seven and he gets it, gets it done. Yeah. And at that point, you know, Rose had pulled past him. Cam, who he's playing with is, is out ahead of him. And you know, I think like probably like one of the big reasons that he felt okay. Yeah. And I think like a pivotal moment of the round was the Cam Young miss on six. Like that gave, that had to have given him fuel in that moment of like, okay, like I'm, I'm okay. Did Cam make another putt after that? I'm trying to guess he birdied eight, but like 13, 15, 16, 17, he just like did not. I think after six, he just really struggled with the putt about this potter. Um, yeah, it was, uh, I mean, so then you have Cam, you have Rose, you have shufflers all of a sudden right square with you. And you're like, and then he goes and he just, he finds that championship gear. And he gets, you know, basically into a similar position of where he was on, you know, last year, like not quite as big of a lead, but he, he walks off 12 tee with the tournament in his hand really. I, we talked about this a little bit when he took the, took the big six shot lead. Like he has these 14 hole stretches or seven hole stretches where like I won the tournament there. I don't think he clearly didn't win it on Friday night. It just sort of came at this clean break of the 36 hole mark where everybody could write this narrative of, uh, he's 12. Maybe sometimes that would happen on a Thursday morning where he goes out in 30 or a Friday afternoon coming in. And, and, and it just happened so fast and made it this clean narrative for the weekend, but he didn't have his best stuff this entire week. And, but he's quote unquote freed up, right? He has the jacket in his locker already. And he talked about how much he's evolved as a golfer and like we know his strategic brain is, is, is on point and has been for the last five years or so, whatever, you know, term you want to put on it based on his US Open performances, based on his performances here. Like mentally, he's freed up physically. He's like always had the game to play here quite well. And so it was interesting. I thought this week compared to last year, it's probably those first two like strategic brain is dialed. He knows this course as bad as, as well as anyone. Like mental brain is dialed. He's freed up has 17 years of experience and not the pressure of putting a jacket in his locker. Maybe the pressure of this, you know, big lead or whatever and being a contention. I think, I think there was, you know, I, Roy's a historian. Yeah. I think there's a lot of pressure and I don't know if he'd admit it or not, but like, I think he probably felt a lot of, you know, it's not the career Grand Slam. It doesn't equate to the career Grand Slam coupled with a 11 year drought. But I, I have to think that this weekend he felt it for becoming the fourth player of all time to win back to back. I completely there was practice. I'm not suggesting he was totally free, but it was a different kind of weight. I think probably than last year when you're talking about these, these, these notches on the resume are a little like less weighty than, oh my God, I've never won the Masters in career Grand Slam. It felt like those three of those three aspects like the physical, the game was the one he had to work with, work on the most. And that's where he's standing on that 17 and like, you know, we'll talk about the rest of the field. No one ran away with it. Those guys were, and you talked about the wind and there were reasons for it. It wasn't like guys were necessarily gagging on themselves. It was like the physical stuff he had to sort of manage the game. He had to manage like our, is my t-shirt on 13 going to go miles into the pine straw again. He worked on it Saturday night on the range. Like that was the party had to manage the most, not the weight of sleeping on the leader at the leader of the final group on Saturday night like he did last year with Bryson. Yeah, the um, it's probably a good spot to be if you're Rory McElroy giving the golf skills you have. I mean, like you think about it as like the confidence now even more so now where he wins this with, you know, you always imagine for years Rory McElroy winning this and this was very much last year. Outside of, if you take away the double bogies, you know, those four holes basically Rory McElroy won last year because of just T degreeing excellence and he, you know, he put it well, right? But he was, he was, he had just full control of the golf ball last year. He drove it so well outside of, you know, the holes 7, 14 and 17. And this year, it's like he won because he understood what he was like, how we, he was playing the golf course. And he talked about it in his post round pressery, you know, he's, it's basically been the only place he's played for three weeks. You know, he, he came out here, he talked about how he had talked to Jack about, you know, how he prepped and Jack would go out to courses the week before and play, you know, a bunch of rounds of key. Score a single ball. And Rory did that. And he, you know, obviously on Saturday he spoke about how he dropped poppy off at school, get up there and come back for dinner. And I think like, you saw some of that experience and, you know, in, in little places like, you know, just where he was leaving his golf ball when he would get in trouble or some of his misses, I think were different than he, he used to used to play golf. He used to play it. And the comfort level with the, with the shots around the green, I think were, was so evident. He was just magical around the green all week. And I, I, you know, it's terrifying when you think about zooming out, like he, he won without his best stuff, Tee to Green. If it, you know, this, the whole dynamic of him at Augusta National has completely flipped. It is a place he loves to spend time now. It is a place that he fully understands how to play. And because of the way he won last year, where he basically did everything people said you can't do and win, it has now given him this freedom. And now it like adds on top of that, that he won without his best stuff. Yeah. I mean, just to talk about like his happy hunting ground, it was, it was funny to watch him fly off in a golf cart. After they've done the jacket ceremony in the putting green, they go down the first hole. He's just like waving from the car at the crowd. Like, it was like, this is like kind of his place now, you know, his happy, his happy place now. You mentioned the short game just to put it, sort of put a bow on that 16. He has to, he has to kind of the tiger-ish play, right? He misses, he goes long left. Not, not quite that, that shot at all, but an incredible play through there. 17 misses short, which he said was a harder chip than people thought or looked. That's another short game shot, 18. Not the most impossible bunker shot, but has to get out of a bunker with all the pressure of no doubles, no doubles. We just watched Bryson do the same thing, you know, hit from that bunker and have it roll off the front and he made a triple. And so short game, if you go back to really another really important moment in the round, just like last year, up and down on three from the bunker. Yeah, so Ian Scotty on Sunday did that. Yeah, in his shot, they both hit great bunker shots. I thought Royce was really well done because, you know, it's like, you listen to all the greats. And I think Bernard said this on Friday, I guess like, when the pins wait left on three, all you want to be is left of it, but there's only five paces to be left of it. He left it right, left of it short, right up the gut on that hole, which was interesting, you know, came right after like something, you know, while you're watching these tournaments, you're just looking for these like micro moments. And I thought like last year, Royce being outside of Bryson on three really was a big moment because he made the putt Bryson misses the putt. You know, the same thing happened on two though, but it was flipped where Cam, I mean, Cam literally chili dipped that wedge. And it was, he was looking at using the bank to feed it back in and he just like, it was, it was so lucky. And anyways, he ends up right behind Royce Ball. He makes Royce misses. And I was like, oh, that, you know, like that is just one of those moments you file away. But then, you know, Royce comes back and makes the birdie there just to give it away. But like that short game was there all week and, and it just bailed them out. And as much as everybody always is driving, you know, you got to drive it well, you got to hit good irons. And this is what makes Augusta such a great term, of course, you have to do everything. And I think the short game is the, the, the skill that, that people often overlook that is like, there aren't bad chippers of the golf ball that win the Masters for the most part. No, no, no, no, that's not really a thing that happens. Like the best hands in the game typically win at Augusta. Rom, Scotty, Rory, to recent, recent winners. Patrick Reed, Jordan Spieth, like you go down the list, Ola Thalvalsevi, you know, all these guys are typically great chippers of the golf ball. Yeah, he was like, we should do it on a day like today. It was a roller coaster in and of itself. It wasn't quite like the one last year. We had to narrow it down to like the shot of the day or the shot that won him the tournament is probably 12. It's probably 12, which on Sundays, if we're being honest, he's usually just sort of like, you know, aim over the bunker and make your three or you roll it into the water and you lose it. There's rarely of like, go and grab it by the neck to there and Rory cut one in there beautifully, fade it right up. Had an amazing anecdote about listening. I mean, this talks about the experience and the weight of it no longer being a weight of not having a jacket. Talked about a 2009 practice round he had with Tom Watson in describing just wait for your wind, wait for the wind that you want while you're over the wall. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait for the wind that you know is the wind. Because it swirls back there. So it's like, wait for the wind that you know where it's supposed to be and then hit as fast as you can. And he's leaning on that, you know, that's 17 years ago, right? And has the recall and I'm sure he's applied that in the, you know, every year he's been here. And that's kind of, I wouldn't say he took the tournament by the scruff of the neck, but he never gave it back when he, when he after he hit that shot. And so it was, you don't see that that often at 12, a two on Sunday. I think, yeah, that shot was awesome. It was a great shot. It's the whole maturation to of the golfer. I think, you know, there are a lot of pro golfers that wouldn't have the wherewithal to ask a legend of the game like Tom Watson, what do you do here? Yeah. And then there are a lot of golfers that, you know, might be told that and then like forget about it. Like Rory's got this encyclopedia golf brain. He remembers everything. He knows the history of the game. One time I was having a conversation with him and we were just talking about something and we were talking about Monty and, and I said something. He goes, Monty never won that tournament. And I'm like, Oh, I might have gotten mixed up. And I was like thinking, I was like, Oh yeah, it was this. He was like, yeah, Monty never won that. He lost to this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, like rattled off like eight years of history of that tournament. And it's like the golf brain to do it, the skills and like that golf shot. Again, if you go back to the early part of Rory's career, a lot of the criticism of Rory's career, not a great short iron player, can't take speed off. Bad wedges. Bad wedge player. And that was a three quarter absolute perfect, perfectly executed soft arm swing nine iron that hit the perfect distance. And you know, it's just like that. I guess that's what makes golf such a beautiful game is that you could have all the, all the talent. But in that moment, it required the wherewithal of, of the information he got from Tom Watson, which he probably asked for that he filed away for the rest of his career from 2009. And then the maturation of his golf game to be able to execute is such a highly technical. I think most guys just get to that tee and pray that they have the perfect yardage. But it's a look, you got to take speed off a nine iron. In that moment, when you're not, you're not having a great week hitting irons. Like when you're taking speed off and you're struggling a little bit, it is so easy to do exactly what he was doing all day Saturday, which is your body stops moving. You come over the top and you pull it and you hit, you hit hit it long left. You said I wouldn't have had that. I didn't have that shot yesterday, Saturday. Until your point, you know, you came out and said, I couldn't have hit that yesterday. Interesting. I mean, that's where he went and got it. And then, you know, because it's Rory at the Masters, you know, he hits like one of the worst drives you'll see on 18. Like one of his worst, I was wondering like if he's ever had that shot of all the experience, experience, experience we're talking about. Like, has he ever in any circumstance, I doubt he practiced it. The wedge on 15 was scary too. I mean, I thought they mixed the pins really well today. You know, 15, that's the fattest part of that green that doesn't make it easy green. 15 has been very firm all weekend. Newer green, I think. I mean, that's not, it's not to say it's fat, but that's the fattest part where it gets. That was a little dicey there. It was a little dicey. I was looking from the side hill into the sun, like trying to see it. But so it was interesting the whole way around. I had flashbacks of 13 last year. I was up at the top of the grandstand there just like I was last year on 13 and he hit it and I'm like, oh God, that's got to get on his horse. Got to go, go to the whip, ride the horse. So then he 18, I ended up right and he walks up. He kind of does this exhale as he gets to his ball in the pine straw and like Shakespeare said, and it was kind of like, I got to do like one more. I mean, five is it's nice to know you need five only and six is a playoff. I mean, it went so far right. It was an advantage because he could hit the big sweep and draw. Yes. Like there was so much crowd in the way. He's like, you got to get out. He's going right to come back kids. I walked by it. I walked by it and I was looking through the trees. I'm like, oh, there's nothing there. I was with Brentley. Yeah. Ironically, it was funny. Brentley got a hamstring cramp there. Didn't know if he was going to make it up the hill. Rolling down the hill. He might be quite. You're jamming him right now. He might have the questionable tag for his media lottery round in Augusta tomorrow. I forgot about that. But anyways, Brentley's like, he's going to chip it through the trees. I'm like, the play is up here. He's got to hit the big hook. Up and over. It was, yeah. He just exhaled and he talks to Harry. He goes, it's going to come out a little spinnier because it's from the pine straw. And just, you know, as he was over the ball, this giant plume of cigar smoke enveloped him. I thought he was going to back off the ball. Like I would have like, it had to have, it was some Yahoo Jamoke was right there. What an idiot. And like just puffed and it went directly up the hill from the crowd. Like went right. I don't know if you noticed it. I couldn't have been there. I wouldn't have been able to do it. Like it just went right over him as he's over the balls. Like, oh my God, he's got to back off. And then he hits it, you know, you planned it out. It just dumps it in the bunker and makes his five takes his medicine just all the way. Just, just had to ride it all the way in just with six maybe in play there. And the playoff was Sheffler and Rose would have been, would have been an interesting playoff. But you know, he gets it done. I mean, just think about it. He's got this two shot lead, 16s generally like a birdie hole with that whole location. You know, he has passed the, he has this delicate putt. That was an incredible putt he hit there from, from, no, 16. Oh, 16. From off the green. Yeah. And then 17 that I think that was actually like kind of a good spot to leave it. I was wondering that because he started walking after it. Yeah. And like, I think he knew he'd left it. He missed a good spot there. Yeah. He was chipping right up the hill. It wasn't an easy shot by any means, but that shot on 17 is so hard. Like your natural reaction is to hit it left there. And I, I don't know if this is what he, if he was purposely trying to miss it over there, the natural thought is that, but that, that green screams away even though it didn't. Look like it. It looks like you're chipping uphill, but it's actually going away. Yeah. And that the chip he left himself, I mean, he's so good at that little, and this is just a shot that he has that I don't see other people, a lot of other players. I see Scott, he hit this shot at Augusta and maybe it's just like kind of a shot that some guys have at Augusta that just unlocks things. He hit that on, he hit the same shot on 17. He just unlocks things. He hit that on, he hit the same shot on six on Saturday or Friday, but it's this like, he hits that low 60 degree that hits into like the fringe and pops it and then it stops. Him and Scott, he do that so well there, but that's chip on 17. I mean, he made it so difficult on himself again. He called that harder than a look, but I do think he thought he missed it in the right spot there on 17. All things considered. It was a great chip. Yeah, he did. Short game had to work. Short game had to work all the way in. All right. I mean, yeah, you think, I mean, just the way golf always works is that you're presented with the things like you come down the stretch, the pressure ramps up and like the things that you're just like not feeling are going to get exposed. And the T degree game got exposed to the last three holes. And the short game putting bailed him out, which he said was an A this week. You think about Cam Young coming down, coming down all really like the whole day. Cameron Young's been a great putter for the last year, but the Achilles heel has always been the putter and the putter just left him on Sunday. Justin Rose, his struggles this week and what is it were with the putter, the putter kind of let him down again today. Three put at 13. That was kind of like a real punch. And then God, especially after, you know, yeah, after 11. It wasn't, it was not a three putt for Cam at 13. I was talking about Rose. Oh, I thought we were still on the Cam's putter. Roy mentioned after his round that he realized the Grand Slam is not the destination last year. And I would put that there were three, you know, three acts in his career right now. There's obviously the immediate spoils, right from 2014. Then there was the drought where quite frankly, he was never outside of, you know, he was always felt like one of the top five players in the world. There were some dry years there where the wedges were, you know, going boom out of here. But he still maintained, he was still winning FedEx Cups and he was a top 10 player in the world. He's basically been a top 10 player without, you know, there's been maybe two periods since 2010. So that was act two, like a great player, not getting it done at the majors, but still like clearly like the ambassador and ambassador of the game. I think we're in act three now where we are running up the resume. I've fully formed a golfer. All the physical tools are there. I'm not over the hill physically or with my game at all. He's still the longest and, you know, he's at six now. He's past Brooks. I'll remember that full swing where he sits in the locker room. I think it was Oak Hill. He's like, oh, like it was one of the better, more insightful parts of full swing. He's like, he's got the five. He beat me to five. There's a player in my era and my contemporary that has more than me. And you know, at that point he's at sitting on almost 10 years without one. And, you know, obviously he matches him last year. He passes him this year. He ties Philly ties, Sir Nick Faldo, who I was going to give Thirst Bucket of the Year award, Thirst Bucket of the Day award, but then he gave me time like a proper, proper night. Sir Nick. And said, I go, what did you eat? I witnessed this happening. It was too hard. It was too hard. It was too hard. It was too hard. It was too hard. Walking stride for stride together. I was certain that someone I could, I wouldn't want to have him rushing off the edge. I'm being a battle on the outside. You wouldn't want to have him in the hole. Yeah. It was good though, walking with it. And then as Roy's walking from Butler cabin, which was cool. I mean, like two of the best euros of all time and the back to back euros at the masters and six time major winners. I asked Sir Nick, like, what did you talk to Roy about? He goes, what did you tell him? I told him he's effing amazing. I was like, what did he say? He said, 12 is the whole deal. 12 was the whole key. Golden bell was the whole where he won the masters. And it was, you know, he's now matched with Sir Nick Faldo. How many majors does he get? So it seems like he's motivated. This is not the destination. So there's 11 players in the history of golf with more major championships. Jack, Tiger, Hagan at 11, Hogan player at nine, Watson at eight, Vardin at seven, Jones at seven, Serres in at seven, Sneed at seven, Arnold Palmer at seven. And then the group of six is Faldo, Mickelson, Trevino. You get to this point. It seems as he said in his preterm at press conference, this is the easiest one for me now. That's crazy. Is that the same course? He's unlocked the course. I was, you know, this weekend it hit a snag, but it felt like the first two days given how he hit the golf ball. It felt like he's gotten to the point where like you go to the, you play the video game over and over again, and you get to the final boss and it kills you every time, you know, and you can't get past the final boss. And then one day you figure out how to, how to beat the boss. And it's like, oh, I just have to go left, left, A, B, and I got it. And that's the move to beat him. And he like figured it out. And so, you know, I think if you told Rory, you know, two years ago, or you tell him March of last year, this is where you're going to hit the ball all week. He would have been, I have no clue. I have no, there's no way I'm going to win the Masters. I mean, he hit, what did he hit? How many fairways did he hit on par fives? Two or three? He hit eight today. He hit number eight today. He hit 13. I think he was in the fairway. So he hit two. So he hit three fairways. Yeah. Three of 16 on par five fairways for the week. And he won. He did all his work on the par five still. So he was even on the threes, which is a good score at Augusta, even on threes, two on the fours, and 10 under on the par five. And he didn't hit, he was never hitting them in two. Right, right, right, right. He had 15 yesterday and he had eight today. And those are the only greens that he hit in two. Why would you grade his like, this is insane. He's got a green jacket. I think it was his B. Why would you grade his golf game? It was a B. He chipped and putted his ass off. His chipping was so good. Some of the places he got up and down from this week were banana land places. You look at his like strokes game and that doesn't tell the story in my opinion, but like, Well, the data tells us everything, you know, There's no prisoners of the data moment. His around the green was the highest for sure, but none of this was exceptional. Wasn't like, Oh, you're getting four shots off the tee today or off the tee this week or approach. Nothing, it was all kind of slightly above average, all slightly above average, nothing dominant. And his around the green really saved him. It wasn't as. So I think, I think you put the majors majors are hard and I refuse to be a favorite. I refuse to allow myself to be a prisoner of the moment and and say the floodgates are open. I'm saying that the over under seven and a half. Okay. What do you think seven and a half total masters total major. Oh, I think, I think, I think, Peach, what would you say? Eight seems fine. PJ says, Oh, Where's your mic on? I've been on three all week, but KVB is on three. Okay. All right. Producer PJ. Eight. I think I'm going to go over. Feels like he's, Man, Feels like it's pretty motivated to run it up. It's like, You're not going to see me go into this. Like, How do I figure out how to come down from Everest this year? Thing. Maybe, Maybe it's easier said than done now that he's, That he's one, But I think Shinnecox, A big thing for him. I think Aronimic plays into his hands nicely as almost every PGA does. You have to think the open at the old course next year is like highlighted. And then, But that almost feels like one of those masters. He like, I don't want to touch that because he's two zeroed in on those. Right? I don't know. I think all this stuff, You know what it is, Golf is like a world of pictures in your mind. And he created all these great movies for himself early in his career. At major championships where he's blown the field out. And then he had this era where he was pretty bad at majors for his standards. Obviously, For a number of years. And it, I think it created a lot of scar tissue. Then he has this phase of close calls where, Yeah, They're gut wrenching losses, But he's in the fight, You know, And you can take away, If I keep giving myself chances, One of these is going to get knocked down. And I think he's back into the mold of like, I'm making great movies at majors again. And even to the, To the sense of like Port Rush last year, I think was like, He came out of it positively. But this one, This one's got to feel better. It doesn't feel better than last year because of all the weight of last year. I think you walk out of this one feeling more confident than ever, Because you did it without your, Without your A game. Yeah. Like, Like did it without what everybody would say. If you said Rory won this week, You'd be like, Oh, he just, He just drove, Drove the shit out of the golf ball. And, And he gave himself so many opportunities because of how well he drove the ball. Instead, it's like he drove the ball bad by his standards. And everything else, His course management, His mental game, In his short game and putting bailed him out. I think the wins at the Masters, Like it frees him up obviously with this like, Once House of Horrors, That was Augusta, But like, It frees him up the next time he faces a Pinehurst situation, right? Like, It frees him up like next time he's in the lead at a, At a US Open or a PGA or whatever. Like, That's a different dynamic too, Because it had been 10 years. It had been so long. So I just, It feels like he's dialing, I would go over seven and a half. I know you're trying to be cautiously not a prisoner of the moment. I think that's fair. Um, I feel like he's probably got like, 10 years of Masters, Yeah. Like real Masters chances maybe more. I mean, That's a lot. And five minimum for all the others. That seems like a lot of chances to get one and a half. Side note, Is the biggest loser today, The PGA Tour, Because Rory felt like he was the most prepared for a major And he took three weeks off before it. It slipped under the radar, But like, It's like, oh yeah, I'm not going to take a couple weeks off. Like Hilton had just nowhere, No chance, No chance, Never was going to be a chance, Like tough scene for the signature at Hilton head. I think, I think he's kind of entering this era. Um, A little bit earlier where, Where, You know, The great man, Justin Rose who finished, You know, Couple back. Um, But he, This, This, He's entered this era almost where, You know, Justin Rose, Everything he's building his game is around the majors. And I foresee, As Rory hits the next three to five years of his career, He will be doing everything to build his life around the four major championships. And everything else will take a backseat. I, You know what's a comfy backseat? Oh my gosh. Go ahead. Great job. I mean, You just, You win, You win today. I love my segways, But that was a good, That was a good thing. If you're, If you're a Hilton head, If you're going to take a backseat, If you're going to take a backseat, I would recommend taking the backseat in the, In the Mercedes Benz GLS, Which PJ's been riding in all week long. They got two bucket seats back there. PJ, come in. Testified to the backseat. They're heated. They have like the, The, The most like, I mean, I think about like my childhood riding in the bucket seat, Bucket seat or a bench seat of a minivan. Uh huh. Or the station wagon looking backwards. Station wagon way back, Looking backwards. Kids these days, If you have a Mercedes Benz GLS, Have it way too good, Because they got heated seats back there, They're bucket seats. There's plenty of space. All of the Mercedes Benz STB's are wonderful. Whether you're looking for a smaller one, Check out the GLB, The GLC, Those are kind of your more mid-sized SUV's, And then scale up to the GLE, The, uh, In the GLS, Which we've been driving around this week. You just got, You've got the full lineup off the top of the head there. He's killing it. You've been doing well. Well, if you want to go, Go all the way, You go G-Wagging too. You know. You could get, You could get a little flashy with the G-Wagging. We saw a nice G-Wagging propped up In the Mercedes Village. How about that? Yeah. Just sitting right outside. That was something. You want to learn more, MbUSA.com That's MbUSA.com Slash the dash masters. Thanks to Mercedes-Benz For their support of Friday Golf, The Shotgun Star podcast. It's been a wonderful week here in Augusta With their support. And, you know, They're a big reason why we're able to get down here And provide the coverage across the board. Written audio, Social, the whole way, Due to them. The photos from Cameron. We're not sure if it's a game, But that segue was, That's the best thing I saw all day. That's pretty good. Where do you want to, Who would you like to go to next? Are we done with Rory? We could talk more about Rory. We're going to have the boys come in. We're going to have KVV come in In a second. The most emotional part, It was a very different masters. Like the crowd on 18, He hit it to two inches, Didn't know what to do. It was like this sort of, I don't want to say it was like deflating it anyway. It just wasn't the release of last year. And then the Rory, No, I'm not saying it was just the way it went down, The sequence, Certainly the most emotional part was having his, His mom and dad there, Who were not there last year. He said they didn't want to come Because they thought maybe one, Which is, feels like an Irish thing, Could totally something I would subscribe to. It was like, well, you won when I wasn't there. I'm not coming. We're not coming. He's like, I had to convince him to come. And they did and they got one. Saw his dad for many. He's like, yeah, I figured I'd come and get one. You know, while I was here. That was certainly the most meaningful aspect. I would think of this, this masters. I mean, I think there's another aspect. And we could talk about this a little bit later. Emphatically the best European golfer of all time. Emphatically. I think so. I would agree with you. The other contenders would be Savvy by Asteros and Nick Faldo. Nick Faldo. I think the whole totality, the longevity, And knowing you've got probably seven really good years In the tank left. It's 36, turns 37 next month. Yeah, I think you've got, you look at that. He's emphatically the best European golfer of all time. And then you start to look at this list, man. You start to look at the major list and it's like, okay, I said a very, you know, conservative over under, But if he gets to nine, if he gets to nine majors, The only people ahead of him in the game and he's doing it in, In a very competitive era are Jack, Tiger and Walter Hagen Are the only ones that have more majors than him. Yeah. I think he's on like the Watson and maybe Gary player eyesight, You know, in the trajectory at this point. And you think about the way, ironically, The crazy thing about his career was like, He's gone from like where he's like a PGA hunter and it's like, Okay, the PGA is the best major for him. Is the PGA the major that sets up the worst for him now? Because it condenses people can catch his separating powers more. Easily. I think another motivating factor, not a motivating. I think it would be sweet. I don't want to, I'm not in his head. I think it would be nice for him probably personally to pass Phil Mickelson. I think that would be like, you know, another modern great. I think he's probably happy that hopefully Phil will be able to Be at the champions there next year that he'll be hosting. I think he, you know, wanted them, Wanted him and Tiger there this year and now get another chance At it who knows what may happen last year. But I think, I think it'd be, you know, Passing Phil would be meaningful to him. I mean, I think there's some motivation too with what Scottie's done. Yeah. I mean, Scottie here in a minute. Woo. You know, like he, Scottie's sitting there at Ford now, you know, Getting that extra major out ahead of him. But, you know, he has to feel like, I think there's probably a lot of him, especially, You know, At the end of last year, it's like, God, this guy is barreling down on me. And I don't want to say probably, But certainly a very good candidate to join the SLAM club. Unless he stops him. He needs to USO. Well, maybe this year, but yeah. Yeah. You know, we didn't have time, Candidly, we didn't have time to make our storylines nobody talked about. But it would bring us to a storyline nobody is talking about. I heard there's public outcry about the police. The police force. What happened? They couldn't bring the racketeer in case home. A repeat offender, a menace to society, a menace to the fair police, Roy McElroy, skirts away, you know, slips through the hands of Sheriff Scottie and Deputy Sam. I mean, I'll go even further. I think Sam Burns arrested the wrong Irishman today. He just completely, he was just, he was like, Oh, he's got an accent and just went after him and threw him in the brink. I mean, immediately. And thought he got his guy. Look, it was a complicated day of figuring out where to go. It was nice of a nice of Sam and Shane to excuse themselves from the proceeding. So at least there was one less like group we had to toggle between. I mean, Rory was committed crimes against fairness all the way to the 18th, where he's, you know, so far, right? He's going up and around. Scottie, if Scottie went home every night, I could see Scottie doing this, going home every night and watching the shot by shots of Roy. He's always not. Come on. He would have seen a lot of petty theft, a lot of petty theft. We're going to get, he said it wasn't equal. Said the conditions weren't equal. The birdies that were available on Friday afternoon worked for him on Thursday afternoon. Just, I, yeah, he went out there and said it, I'd like to, let's, it's a bit of a rare, it's been a real, rare failure of the police department in recent, recent years, golf police department. The fair police. Couldn't get the, couldn't get the offender in cuffs. Should we go to Cam? Where do you want to go next? I was going to talk about Cameron Young for a minute. He got a lot of good breaks off of trees. He got it off of three again. Kind of the, the, the, the matumbo block into the black into play. You got it a bunch, you know, on Saturday at 17 and 13. Amazing, like par save at five. And then just like was, was shaky from there on out after, after five was, was really quite shaky. I thought, you know, I think he handled the moment pretty well. Totally. I was, he definitely didn't like just blow up or gag away. He was in it. I was in a scary challenge. This is a guy that went out the front first nine of the tournament shot 40. And then he comes back and he's, he's leading, leading the tournament on the, on the, you know, on the first nine of Sunday and really like, I think he played Teter green well enough on the, on the back nine to win this thing. He just didn't make any putts. He'd make the putts. Yeah. Like he, he hit the shots he needed to hit. Um, you know, you think about, he had a really good look on 10. He had a really good look on 11 for how hard 11 is. He had a great look on 12. He had a great look on 13. Um, he had a, you know, a really great opportunity on, on 15 that he didn't cash in. He had a good, he had 16, 17. He was pinned high. I mean, the guy played great golf. Rory did put a little bit of a pin in the boys balloon, uh, saying it was be a more comfortable pairing this, this Sunday compared to Bryson last year. I wouldn't say that's like, I don't think he was intent. He was dogging cam. He just felt probably a little more comfortable. You know what I liked about cam? Uh, the boys, I don't know if the boys, the boys may not have appreciated that. You know, I loved about cam here real quick. What? So they, I think people wanted to get like another quote about like how Rory didn't talk to talk to him and cam cam goes, um, he said something along the lines. I can't find it here. I didn't market, but, uh, I, I don't really talk much either. I'm not, I'm not one to talk a ton to begin with. I don't think he really wanted to talk to me today. Sunday in the masters and a final group, you know, don't wish anything poorly on the guy, but we're playing against each other. Not trying to be best friends. Yeah. So I think, I think the reporter was trying to get like something similar to Bryson and like Rory and cams like, I didn't want to talk to him. Bryson doing his little diaper filling routine. Yeah. Also, I loved, you know, somebody, a reporter at that point, the reporters that were in the pool for the most part, I don't think really watched the golf that we're asking the questions. Oh, I haven't read cams transcript. So anyway, but I did watch the golf somebody, somebody suggested that he wasn't being aggressive. Enough. He goes, yeah, what does that mean? Because he doesn't make eight birdie. What does that mean? So he goes, yeah, but I mean, how much closer do you want me to hit it? But I did on the back nine want me to aim right at right on 12. Just one of those. I think the shots are pretty obvious and I hit a lot of them. I just didn't make anything. I thought cam played great golf on the back nine. I, you know, you could play this. You could replay the way the that that back nine a couple of times and cam cam probably comes out on top 30% of the time. Yeah. Like he hit the shots. He didn't make the putts and it comes down to golf usually reveals your weaknesses. And I know he's been a great putter, but this is going to is everybody has their little kryptonite of getting it. It's a little kryptonite of getting over there over the hump in, in, in, it took cam a long time to get over the hump in a regular tour event because the putter held them back. Yeah. We've seen the putter hold them back in majors and it looked like it's solved, but like this is the gravity of today was huge. And as much as he downplayed, you know, is a, I didn't feel much different. I just, some, it was not like he choked or anything. No, he didn't. He just didn't get it done. Didn't shoot a 78. There was not, not of that. I will say, I mean, yeah, I know you just brought up the quote, like, did you feel any different three years ago? He said yes, even a year ago a little bit. I mean, 40 on the front nine, even a year ago is a death now. It was, it would be over at that point. He would be done. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say, I gotta say, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry your boy didn't get it done for you both spiritually and financially. It's okay. Yeah. It happens. Good chunk of change was going to come your way. If he came. It's okay. It's just going to be, you know, a windfall that probably would have changed your short term life. Yeah. For sure. Looking at a GLS maybe or something. Okay. I actually made that joke to Andy this morning. You did. I did. I love that. As we arrived in the GLS. Scenes, I went to the range before they teed off and usually the range, like, yeah, it's kind of meh. Like it's just guys hitting balls and you don't know what you get and you probably over-inflate the moment. I like watched it. It's incredible to think about like your dad is your coach, but he's also your dad. Does that, I know that sounds so simplistic, but to think about like your son is about to play the font around the masters, but you also have to be the coach and he's on the range with them and he was watching like, he would watch Rory hit and then he'd go back to his son who is still his son. Like I hate to be so, like it's incredible this double duty he had and his mom was up above and like, you're like the pieces of your parents, right? Like his mom has his countenance, like the face and like the deadpan cam. Like I don't talk much deal. And like his dad, he obviously gets the golf game from his dad or parts of the golf game in this instruction. I think his mom's a very good player, really good player too. And like you're these pieces of your parents and it was just fascinating to watch his dad then out on the course, like he hits it on 13 and that like maybe was going to go down into the trivia. His dad like it stopped and his dad like gulped because all of a sudden his dad goes from coach on the range to dad in the cigar smoke with in schmutz with everybody else. And he walked the whole as far as I could tell. Every day. Every day. He walked the whole deal. It was and they were both at the far end. Rory and cam stayed till the end and it was like, if you were golf sick, it was like incredible. At one point they were both hitting driver and cam was kind of coming across the range like hitting from the far this left across the range and Rory was hitting his draw, working on a draw and like they were on the same cadence and it was like this perfectly blue sky. I'm not being corny about this. They're balls like almost like kissed and crossed and they're the only two players on the range. It was dead silent and literally the whole world, like the entire world waiting on the other side in like 15 minutes and the balls like kissed and they were on the same cadence. It was incredible scene. I was like with his dad there watching them. It's the coolest thing about these extreme high stakes golf tournaments and Patrick Reed spoke about it in the lead up to the tournament, the thing he missed. But yeah, the Masters is just ramped up and the whole week there's so many people around, so many people on the range and then on Saturday and Sunday, it's just like the last two guys and it's cam and Rory, last year it was Rory and Bryson and there's just like when you sit and watch the range, there's just like this gravity to the moment where it was. It was amazing and just to think like that's also his dad is now going to watch his kid go play the Masters. Was really powerful. While we're on parents, can I give you my nominee for quote of the day award? Sure. Is it from Jerry or something? It's not. It's relating to the young parents. Cam comes through the whole tunnel of love before Rory does and goes to scoring. No, no, after. Goes to scoring. He's walking with his wife. They pass through. His mom is coming behind them a couple of steps behind. She was walking all week with like one of those chairs that you plop down or whatever. Some moron just yells, good job, Dottie. Happy for you at Mrs. Young. Oh, Mrs. Yeah. Yeah. She still carries the folding chair that it was kind of, she had to ask what time it was on the range. She asked somebody else what time it was and Brentley made the joke. It's camp time. But no, they thought she was Dottie Pepper. I just wanted to make that. I got it. I was like stunned in disbelief that that happened. I think it happened more than once. It happened while she was walking. Honestly, it happened while she was walking into scoring. That's what I just said. I thought you were saying somewhere else. And obviously, obviously, Rory. We're all braindead. Rory's pieces of his parents, too, like his father, eternal optimist and his workout, like with mom, all these things. It was just, it was interesting to watch the two of them watch their son get ready. We go to someone else. Camp gets to seven top tens in 19 majors now. He's knocking on the door. It's going to happen. Got all this, every skills, all the skills. Yeah. He's going to be there. Ronamink, he should be on the shore list for. Rose, anything we want to talk about with Justin Rose, we certainly hit on him. He got uncomfortable in the wind. I'll say his shot on seven. Low key, like shot of the tournament, another one that will be forgotten. Like absolute cut from LaManya was there. He can probably come in. He was like right behind him when he, we'll talk about, like shot of the tournament, the side spin, just whipping down seven gets ripped a lot. It's like maybe the weakest hole out there and is now reduced again to dry, almost a drive and pitch, which was what it was originally. It's good that they moved the tee back 120 yards and the original intent of Mackenzie's Ben Restort. We're back now. Thank you. Thank you, golf ball. There we go. Yeah. It was, but watching shots frequently there in those approaches is amazing. That was one of the great shots of the weekend that, that side spin. I don't have much else on Rose. On the good man, Rose. Yeah. I, a lion, a real lion, much more of a lion than J-Day. I got to apologize. You know, PJ worked me in a Tizzy last night and because, because of his Jason Day slander. You see how this works, folks? I'm getting blamed for the bad takes. No, no, no, because of your Jason Day slander. I just, I just said Rose is a pretender. You lashed out. You lashed out. I did lash out. You lashed out. Because I was, I was, I was frustrated with your, with your Jason Day slander. And do we want to talk about that? I mean, we don't need to talk about that. I think, I think the lion, I think Joseph, when Joseph comes in, we're going to talk about that a little bit. The lion was out roaming around. I, you know, it was awesome. He was birdie birdie birdie eight, nine, seven, eight, nine, seven, eight, nine. He's where he went. He's, he's ageless. Yeah. He's great. I don't know how many, I don't know how he can keep getting into the mix. He'll be 46 at next year's masters. I think that I, you know, last year, this year, I have a hard time. I think he, these were his two shots. I don't think he's, I think he's going to join the list of like snake bit. I think that's probably fair. I just, but God, what a lie. I mean, you talk, and we're going to get to Sergio. We're going to get to his ass in a minute, but you talk about like the same age, same contemporary, the guy who won in 17, the guy who lost in the playoff. And Sergio has just been NA, just irrelevant at the master since he won. And Rose just keeps coming back and keeps coming back and keeps coming back. Could have gone in two very different directions. Sergio did not do those, the Vrory route of, of coming back to the well. But yeah, yeah, you think he's done in terms of this kind of opportunity. You know, one of the best press conference anecdotes that I had from today is, is Adam Scott. Oh, he's always. Obviously. Contemporary, someone who's played against JR for years. Yeah. Somebody asked, uh, change the subject briefly. This will be my last question. What is it like to play with Justin now? What's it like to play with him? What's he like to play alongside? And Adam Scott said, I think that he's quite an intense competitor, Justin. I don't think anyone should be surprised by that, given his showing again this week, his showing here last year. He's a very focused, intense competitor. So having spent my whole career kind of alongside each other, I'm saying this as a compliment that he's still so focused, maybe from the outside looking in a little bit even more focused than ever actually at this point in his career. Um, and then he said, what about like his golf? Does he do well? Well, he's incredibly calculated. I think he really knows his own tendencies well and he plays around them all to his advantage. You know, I think he's been very meticulous and about the ways built his game. I would say probably for the last 15 years, but certainly the last couple, I think there's been a very narrowed focus and he's very meticulous about things. I, the thing that I found most interesting and I think this is so true, the calculation, I think Justin Rose, like he understands like this tournament and when he needs to make moves and what he has to do and when he has to take things on and what like the key he has just like, he seems to hit the right shot at all the right times. And today we didn't see really anybody coming down the stretch. Like I think he knew he had to take on 13 and I think he knew he had to make an eagle. He hit the shot. He hit the shot and then he gave the eagle a real run. Yeah. Like he wanted the eagle and I think he knew he needed the eagle there. He needed the eagle and he went for the win and it didn't happen, but I, I think he's like I walk away from this and he's not, I don't, he's for sure the not the most talented. He has earned his place in the game by hard work. He gained speed in the early 2010s. Like, and he's gone about managing his body, managing his game, but he wins and he gets in the mix because he just, he gets himself ready for the tournament physically and with the golf swing, but then he just has this incredible pulse and he knows what he has to do to get to where he needs to get to. And I think today like he went for it and really like, you know, you look at his round, the three putt killed him, killed him. But he needed the eagle there to win. He did need the eagle. He talked about the second shot on 11 really kind of put him on the fritz. That was deep, like super deep. And that was really when he started struggling with the wind. We should get to the sheriff. Should we bring in everybody? Let's get to the sheriff real quick. Well, which will transition us to a golf course chat and bring everybody in. Incredible birdie, three putts to, goes long on eight and makes a run, makes a run. He said, you know, repeatedly in his press conference, you know, look, I was 12 shots back. I think I did pretty well. I ended up one out at 12 shots back at the weekend. Everything that was done was done in the first two days. I think it would have been nice. You know, I think I did pretty well to be one shot out. A lot of golf course talk and we'll get to it in a second. I'm not in charge of course, setup, he said. I would have liked it who have been a little bit more, and this is where the sirens start blazing, a little bit more equal in terms of the firmness on Thursday and Friday. I was a bit surprised at how soft things were on Friday afternoon, especially as it got late in the day. But the weather also changes a bit and it was windy on Thursday. So who knows, we play an outdoor sport. And he spoke about just getting the wrong side of the draw. It's a true story. You got the wrong side of the draw. But isn't that just how the... It's how golf works. And I think he said later in his interview session, listen, what costume was shooting too over on the easiest day? Friday morning, he goes out, no wind, soft golf course and he shoots too over. Friday probably hurt the most in terms of my chances of winning. That's what he said. And I think at the end of the day, he just did not... He didn't make enough putts. He hit a lot of great shots. Yesterday, he almost ended Jason Sobel's career when he said it was a dumb question. Jason Sobel had a great long career. And then later, then backtracked. Probably not that bad of a question. But of course, the only thing that got aggregated was this stupid question. But yeah, listen, he's got an amazing... He's going to win more of these and he's got an amazing knack for just being around. And I think he probably walks away from this feeling much like Rory. I almost won this thing with my B or C game. Right. Right. One shot out. Yeah. I don't think we're taking any kind of alarming sort of extrapolation from his week at all with anything. Or just like he's still maybe the scariest dude in the sport. It's probably how we come away from this week. I mean, the Rory Scotty kind of 1-2 gets more interesting after this. Yeah. I think you probably still have Rory or Scotty out in front. But I mean, it's close. And I think this year, if I had to guess, I think Rory's probably going to handle the three majors after this win, probably better than he handled the last ones. It seems like it. It seemed like he'd kind of gotten a funk of like he accomplished such a huge thing. And it was like kind of like, I think this year you're going to see a more focused and sharp Rory at the next three majors. Speaking of Rory and Scotty, a golf course setup that has Rory solo first and Scotty solo second. Well, now you're doing the Valhalla thing. The good leaderboard? Yeah, I did it last night. Look, there was a lot of hollering about the, I think people, maybe we used dollar ammo on Saturday. That's fine. I don't want to repeat myself. This felt like a very simplistic line of thinking that was sort of devoid of critical thought and just shrouded in like statistics as like a safety net. And I think like what you saw on Thursday night or Thursday, you're like, oh, it's firm. It just needs to get incrementally harder from here on out because it's not going to rain. And then there were some low scores on Saturday. It just, every single player, you have to just listen to the players. This is as firm as it's ever been. The greens are purple. The greens are the greens are a different shade of purple and brown. This is as firm as it's ever been. They were at the edge on Thursday. I think it yield like you were getting punished. If you hit poor shots, this wasn't like dartboard, drive it, wedge it, and it sticks, you know, it sticks right there and rolls back a foot. None of that was happening. I thought Jordan Spieth put it quick quite well. He said, the holes that greens need to be softer are softer and then it was let go on the others. This is of a Sunday setup like it was on Thursday. You can't have it like Thursday with where the pins are on six downwind and stuff like that. So they have it at a playable spot, but you have differences in how firm some of the greens are compared to others. And you just trust that they know what they're doing, which is easier to trust here than anywhere else. I think Augusta National was like pretty big on championship golf and championship tournament conditions and you do have to trust them. I don't blind deference to them at all. It just felt like the narrative that said in it was aggregated everywhere. There's golf digest article about it. Just like they went soft and drenched the greens. Like drenched? Nothing was drenched here. I mean, it wasn't critical thinking. You were just over indexing on Thursday afternoon. I'm not an agronomy expert. I would say that I probably understand agronomy a little bit more than most golf writers or golf media folk. But I think the reality, there's also a dynamic of what the Masters is. The Masters is the tournament where people can go get it. And you saw that dynamic on Saturday and Friday and the weather was really dry. And what I mean by dry is when there's no humidity, the greens can get really firm, really fast if there's wind. And I think Thursday, I'm certain that the golf course made the green jackets a little uncomfortable for the rest of the week. I think they were uncomfortable with where the golf course got on Thursday afternoon. So yes, they put water down on Friday morning. But that was water down to protect in case it got windy, which you don't know. If it got windy on those days, you would have seen really firm greens in the afternoon, but it didn't. And this is exactly like when the USGA has lost Shinnecock. This is exactly the equation. Low humidity days where the breeze picks up and then the greens get too firm. So you have this dynamic of we have to put water down in case the weather forecast changes. You can't, yeah, the weather forecast looked great all week and you had like, but if that changes, you can't lose the golf course. Like at the core of what you're trying to do, you want the golf course and especially their golf courses always going to be apart. We see the golf course play a huge role, whether it's soft or whether it's firm, but like you can't have the golf course and you losing it be the number one story. And the line is more narrow. And I think like what people don't realize, and I think where like some of this comes from, it was also hot. So the ball was going really far and the ball stops when you're hitting a lob wedge. It just does. And these guys were hitting lob wedges into everywhere. I mean, Rory hit a six iron into eight today. That is a monster hole uphill. I think it is it 580 uphill. He had a six iron into the green. Okay. So the ball has gotten completely, the ball and equipment have gotten completely out of control where like 14 to drive and pitch, seven to drive and pitch hole. And so you're hitting these short clubs in. So yeah, but like when you see them hit longer clubs in like today with like six downwind was just like, it was nobody could hit the top portion. Yeah. 15 downwind today. It was incredibly hard to hit. Like Cameron Young hits the ball as high as anybody in the world outside of maybe Rory and Marco Penji. But he hits the ball. He hits towering iron shots and on 15 he can't hold the green. So today you get win and the greens get firm and nobody complains. Yesterday you don't get wind and people complain. And the day before you don't get wind. So people complain, but like this is not, but you can't just, you don't just set up like there's not like some little like button that you set and that's what it gets to be all day long. It's not a critical thought. It's complaining without proposal of any kind of alternative of what you actually want to be. People that aren't out watching golf shots actually like land and react and hear the sound that they're making on the green. The winner shot 73-71 on the weekend. Like, okay, you've complained. What did you want? You want to shoot 78. You wanted all 80s? Like what did you want? Where did you want the pins? What is your proposal? What is your alternative? I think we would be all over it if it went like if they were super soft and this was a disgrace and this wasn't what we want from Augusta. We would absolutely shout out about it. They could just, they saw the forecast, no rain. Everybody needs to shoot 80 this week because it's not raining. And like there's no alternative proposal other than to shout and holler about it being like not as hard as you wanted. There's no actual realistic counter. Anyways, 73-71 was enough to get it done on the weekend. And 13 and 15 had their bite back. It was awesome. They could have probably pushed it a little bit more. Okay. Friday. And like, yeah, you might have been able to push it a little bit more. But again, it just illuminates and this goes back to Sherbin Ridley's first or his press conference. It illuminates the issue with the ball. Yes. Scotty Schaeffler covered the bunkers on one today. He's a middle of the road hitter. These guys are hitting wedges into one. To everything. To make the complaint that Augusta went soft and just not bring up the ball in relation to how they are driving it to wedge distance on what are supposed to be these beefy part fours, that is the bigger problem. And I know people are going to say, we're sitting from the same Himshid ball, blaming the ball. Open your eyes. Like that's what, where's the needle you want to thread when they have to wed? What do you want the course to be when they're hitting it that far? How do you want them to shoot 80? Well, I just don't know how you, you can get greens like when you're just hitting wedges in, but then like the problem is they're hitting wedges into all these par fours. But if you get all the greens super firm, then people would complain that 15 is unhittable. Right. And 13 is unhittable. Or it's just, you can't go for it. No go. And then the drive on 13 has never felt more consequential now. So it was interesting. I mean, Scotty hit a good drive there and had no chance to get, to go to the green. Rory has an eight iron. Like it just like shot shape seems to matter. I'm not saying Scotty had a great, like his best drive ever, but like he was miles away. Didn't even pretend to go for the green 13. Rory got his shaped a little bit and has a, I think he said eight iron. Did you say eight iron? I think it like that's a, that's a really consequential drive again. You know, as maybe they weren't always even hen driver a few years ago. All right. That's the course. One more thing to support your, support your European greatest European golfer of all time. Luke Donald, who knows, I think he's a pretty contemplative voice. So he did tie and savvy with two green jackets will mean a lot to Rory. He is undoubtedly the best European golfer of all time now. So you said emphatically, Luke Donald says undoubtedly the best European golfer of all time. And that's the golf consequential golf was played today. All right. Let's bring in the crew. Let's bring in the crew. Let's talk about, uh, who do we want to talk about? How Tom Lee, where, what are we bringing in the relief pictures to talk about how Tom KVV and Joseph. Read them in the newsletter cramped up over there. Read them in the newsletter. Kevin's got a feature piece coming on the day probably on Rory. Maybe just decided to write about Russell Henley. Heart left. I saw Joseph. I saw Joseph on nine green. I walked up first time I'd seen him in days. These are the four scariest words in sports. Here comes Russell Henley because he had taken the lead. It was like, you're in trouble now, baby. Henley's on the move. Kevin, Pete, did you hear the big news? What it's the big news. I don't want to, I don't want to interlude here, but I figure I'd sneak it in. What is the big news? The line I did. I was going to bring this up to you. I was going to bring this up to you. Big portal ad. That's big. That's big. I just wanted to give Joseph time to get in. He was moving like an old man. It's okay. It's fine. We got the boys cam. Do we have the boys cam live? Oh, we got boys cam live. Are the boys getting old? We're never ready to go. We're never ready to go. From just out of being out there walking 36 feet with Ryan Gerard and then the leader. They thought they could be out here. They don't want to be out here. No, no. I think we did all right first. I'm going to let you guys kick this off here. Were you guys surprised by Jason Day's performance today? Because I was. No. No, not surprised. I only take a little bit of offense to you saying that we weren't golf fans back when Jason Dave was good. We remember Jason Day being good. And you know what? It was kind of a long time ago. I had 10 years actually is what I was like. It's going to fly by. Some day people will be the next version of the boys will be talking to you guys about what was Ryan McAuley like? I'd be the first Jason Dave for a backer ride conversation. You know what? Imagine eight years from now. There's going to be young pups that are going to be like, Cameron Young sucks and you're going to have to eat it. I mean, Brady's Brown is the greatest player of all time. You're going to be a knower. You're going to have to teach him. This is really like a full circle. I kind of got into this in like 14 when Roy went on his run. I convinced me to like, I really want to do golf here. I'm not even from living, but like golf is what I want to do. I love writing about this guy winning majors. And now we got the boys on a similar bent with Cam. They just use an old man. They're playing championships and beating the fight. And here we are, you know, 12 years later. It's fine. It's fine. You know, he played well. I don't want to. Do you have any camp takes? No, I have a Shane Lowry take, which is any shot. Can we do that? He is now shot 161 on Sunday over the last two. 80 versus the 81 last year when he was pissed off that everybody was just asking about Roy. Shane Lowry speaking of things that happened 10 years ago. Shane Lowry in the United States by himself. It's been 10 years. You really don't like. I just, I'm just, I'm, he's a world class player according to the media. Did you hear Roy's quote? Yeah. No. He said he was looking, he was asking if you were looking at scoreboards throughout the day. And he was like, yeah, I was looking up and I was looking to see if Shane was doing because I thought, you know, it'd make me feel good if I put the jacket on Shane, if I wasn't going to win it. I was like, he didn't comment on like Shane shooting 41 on the front or whatever. Yeah. He couldn't have been locking real long because he was up there until Shane Lowry was on the 13th green looking at the scoreboard behind 14 T and that's when they took him down. Hey Joseph, I gotta, I gotta ask you a question from Matt 61268. How was downtown Augusta? We didn't really make it. We made it to downtown Augusta. We made it to downtown Augusta. We made it to downtown Augusta. Come on, Taco Cat and Mushroom. We made it to downtown Augusta. We made it to downtown Augusta. We wanted, I'd say we went too much to downtown Augusta. Not as cool as downtown Port Rush, but it's up there. Love that. Love that. Kev, your early reactions or immediate reactions to the day. We will read your piece in the morning or even this evening. Yeah. I think, you know, you guys touched on a lot, but this to me just represents like the evolution of Rory McElroy, the thinker. Like obviously that was coming over time, but you know, he didn't have to rely on like these prodigious gifts that had always kind of given him this kind of aura, right? This ethereal quality of who he was as a player. This was gritty. This was grind it out. This was like, hold on to your nuts and absolutely find a way to make pars. And I think there's something kind of really admirable about that. Like you don't have to win majors every single way. Tiger showed us that that sometimes you're going to be awesome and sometimes you're just going to outlast everyone and grind them to death. And I think he has, you know, should feel really proud of the fact that he's now this kind of player who can do this different ways. You know, there was a time I remember sitting, Bernie bring up 14. I remember sitting in the chambers Bay Press conference and he was like, yeah, I'm just going to be kind of a volatile player. I'm going to miss three cuts in a row and then I'm going to win three things in a row. And when I get on those hot streaks, it's going to be great. And I don't really care about the bad ones. And then he went through that stretch of us opens post chambers, but it was like Shinnecock, Oakmont, you know, Aaron Hills, bad, bad, bad, like really embarrassing sort of performances for a player of his caliber to miss three us opens a row. And now he is just not that guy. I mean, he is the person who absolutely is going to be in the fight, you know, a lot if he has any kind of game. And I just think that this performance was, it was cool to watch. I mean, I last year will always be special to because of what it represented. But this one and this one was grinding gritty effort. I feel like the part that maybe hasn't been discussed on this podcast at length yet is that there are some players who really let this slip out of their grasp. Like Justin Rose had this tournament and completely let it get away. And there are a couple of other guys you talked about, Cam missing all the parts. Justin Rose is a pretender. Well, according to some, some people, but the point in speaking to what Kevin's getting at, like it's about getting it done, whether you have your A game or you don't. And I feel like previous versions of Rory, less complete versions of Roy would not have won today when you're scrapping it around on the weekend. And he was kind of scrapping it around throughout the weekend. On the weekend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But especially Saturday. Well, I mean, let's just talk in general, like he's learned how to be a better wedge player, right? He's learned how to have all the different kinds of trajectories with his liars. He when he needed a drive on 17, when he couldn't afford another thing, absolutely the low split this low bullet down to the tee shot that bugged him really for the last two years. It's just that player is so different than the 2014, 2015 version who was like, F it, let's tee it high and just bang it down there. And I'm confident I can hit this big ass draw and just nail it down there 90% of time. And that was that worked for a long time for him. But the golf has changed. Like as you guys talked a lot about the agronomy stuff, like, you know, because the players can hit it so far, they have to push the course to the edge. And I get some of the setup stuff. I just am confused by because like it's not like anybody shot the course record this week, there's all this idea that was like so easy out there. There's a low score on average on Saturday. Okay. But like did Shuffle shoot 62? Is that what people want on Saturday? It's moving days? Like, isn't like the history of the masters on Saturday, like that's the day people go get it, you know, and there's volatile moves on the board. You want excitement, right? You want, I mean, you know, Phil was complaining about how there wasn't any Eagles or whatever, but it was like, all of a sudden, it was like the truth that Garrett dug into is like, yeah, there, it is kind of like a momentous decision again, like it is kind of hard to go for those greens and two. It's, it's not like when they were hitting four woods into it and you know, the 70s, but it is like, there's a lot of risk involved. And I think I just don't, I can't get like behind, you know, when the score is what it is, like it's 12 under, he won that. Like what are we asking for? Like, do we really like, is it going to, is six under, is that a better masters? I just feel like they kind of got the balance pretty right and they have for the last four years. Lamarie, where do you land on that? The course, this course, we don't need to go too heavy. Where did you land from a data? I empathize with Scotty's viewpoint that conditions were fairly similar. Both days in the course played quite soft around Friday. Like I would probably be frustrated in his position, but if you were out there, if you're watching the shots, traffic cop, the margins were super slim. Yeah. Maybe JLM's joining the four. The margins were super slow. The margins were slim. I mean, we watched how Tong Li putt on 13, like up and over and down into the water. And it wasn't like his putt was carrying a ton of pace over. It's not like the greens were slow. No, the greens were fast. It was firm. 15 you could barely hold again. You guys touched on it, but this is a conversation about equipment. I think it's Scotty's in case in general, you know, he, the reasoning, obviously, you guys, this happened before I came on the, like to the company, but like he has in his mind, he just loves fairness, right? He's so annoyed, more annoyed than other people by Augusta Wind or a mud ball. Huge stickler for fairness. If I had the sound, he would love it if the conditions were exactly the same for everyone. That's why he was kind of, you know, complaining why I like ball in hand or whatever the PGA. And I think it obviously it's because he's just so fricking talented. He knows that his talent will kind of outlast every, almost every single person if the things are all things are equal. And he's such a competitive person that what he wants is like a fair stage. He wants to basically be at the Olympics where you line up and run the exact same hundred meters that everyone else does. And that's just not golf. I, well, I think he wants that because he's the best executor. Yeah. Like if you just stood on a driving range and said hit shots at this flag, I think Scotty would win all the time. Yeah. Well, it's that tailor made video where he like hitting them on the launch monitor and like, how far is that going? One 15. And it's like, comes up on track, man. One 15. Three oh two, three oh two. Like he can, he's so good at knowing exactly the right yardage to hit it to that without any elements, of course, he's going to hit flags. You got to wonder, right? Why is he not playing TGL if he just wants, you know, dome golf? Joseph, where numbers aren't correct. He gets TGL legend. Joseph, where are you landing with Cameron right now after today? Um, I was out there with you for a good portion. I think when we just say somebody just missed putts, like there's truth to it, but also, you know, I feel like it sometimes abdicates the quality of the putts. Like, yeah, Cameron missed a lot of putts down the stretch that he probably should have made one or two. Yeah. And I think reading his quotes, he more or less felt like he did everything. He needed to win. I don't know if you guys have had a chance to read his quick quotes, but he was basically like, I hit the ball well enough to win by multiple shots. So, uh, he did. No, I agree. I agree. But he didn't, he didn't get it done. And I felt like there was a little bit of a lack of that X factor down the stretch house, a couple, no, no, not a house, not a house cat by any means. Just, just to be clear. Not a house cat. Young, young lion. Young lion. Well, yeah. Young, you're not young lion. Maybe, maybe a, a, a, a bigger cat. I'm excited for cats. Part two. I we've had many conversations. It's coming out. I think he could be like a, maybe like a panther, a young panther that got a good cat. Part two. Bad. Honestly, I think Cameron Young, that's obviously a huge part of the story is in the final group. But what Rose, Rose letting this one slip away to me was probably the biggest takeaway of the day. Had the lead gone to the 10th. He chipped one back to his feet on number three. The chip on 12 was horrid. I mean, that just resulted in a bogey, but the chip on 11 was bad. And he talked to Tori that his short game still needs to be cleaned up if he wants to have a chance to win some of these. And that really did cost him today. I think, you know, I, cause I truly believe you guys are right in the cam is going to win a couple majors. I think two would be a good number. I think he's, he's shown that much game. You have to get in the mix a little bit at Augusta, I think, to kind of understand all of the feels of that pressure. And the bogey on seven was not a particularly good one. Uh, that's where it started to sort of slip a little bit. Yeah. Back, back, back to back six and seven. What was kept, uh, you've, you've covered so many of these majors and these major Sundays and major months. What was your like approach today? And yeah, I talked about bouncing around like where, what was your like feel of the day? I, I walked the whole front nine with Rory and Cam. And I just felt like I could see Rose. I could see chef climbing. And I was like, I have to like see the big picture of this. I mean, I've, I walked all the team with Rory last year. And so I thought, you know, even if Rory wins, this is never going to like live up to last year's kind of thing. So I, I ducked in the media center and just started taking notes and kind of seeing the whole, the whole board. I knew you guys were out watching. I was like, you guys can get a lot of color, but I need to be able to see the chess board. That's rare for me because I kind of hate being inside and like not feeling this sort of thing like that cigar detail smoke. That's, that is right in my alley of like the kind of shit that I love. And I, I feel like a little bum that I wasn't, you know, there to sort of see this scene on 18, but I also, by that time I was at, when he hit the putt on 17, I was like, gosh, like run out to 18 and sort of see this, whether it's a disaster or whether it's a triumph unfold. And I just thought, you know what, I got to sit in here. But. And go ahead. You know what one of my big takeaways was? Um, I think Augusta national, it, it just golf in general, but it's ramped up at Augusta national. It is so hard to play three great rounds in a row. And if you look at everybody that's on this leaderboard, they effectively just had one midi mediocre round mixed in here. And that's the difference. Scotty, it's the 74 on, on, and round two, you know, Rory is the 73 in round three. Then you go down to cam cams was today, really. And round one, any sensational in between, right? It, that's basically like, and Justin Rose ironically was like, you know, he just didn't have the one great round. You know, that was the putter never allowed him to have the one great round this week. And I think that's the thing with Justin Rose at various points today. I thought Rory was going to win. I thought Rory was going to lose. Would everybody agree with that? Where there was there a point today where you didn't think Rory was going to win? What do you mean the double on four? I was like, yeah, I don't know. Based off Saturday six for me. I was like, six. I felt like he hit a good iron shot there. It just went a couple yards too far, but the iron shot on four was not good. And the chip was almost winning, but then the first pot was bad. And then to mix the next one, I was like, what about you? You ever think Rory was not going to win? Oh yeah. When I saw the double go up on four, I didn't, I didn't think it was over, but I mean, Cam and Justin, because Justin Rose hit the shot on seven very shortly after that, one of the craziest shots. I was right behind him when he hit it. It was 30 yards left of the green, peels it back to six inches and is strutting up to the eighth tee box. Like it was in his hands. Can I ask a question for you guys? I was next to eight green when Cam hit that chip from over there. And I couldn't really see because it was kind of home to people. Everyone thought that he hit like a shank there, but it seemed like he was trying to hit it. The back bank. Okay. Cam practiced that shot for about 10 minutes during his practice. It just sounded a little clunky and everyone went, ooh. And I was like, oh, there's no way he shanked that, right? Like it, it was, it was an awesome play then to sort of bring that back. I, you know, Rory hit a great shot in there and it kind of was a pretty weak Eagle putt, but that was kind of like at least like those two in a row sort of felt like got the round. So it was the day, I think when we all felt like Rory could win. Cam could win. There was a moment we thought Cam was going to win. I would say objects, just jumping object when everything. Rose is going to win. I think we all thought there was a moment there. Scotty, anyone objected? Did you just say Scotty? I think after he birdied three, I was like, ooh, this is, he's coming. Yeah. He just, I thought when he birdied 15, 16, I mean, I know that's late in the game, but I don't know how much you guys saw his third shot into 15. Did you see that? Yeah. I just, I thought it was too late because at that point Rory was already like, he needed to birdie out in my mind. It was too late on 13 fairway. I thought there was a chance that Scotty Scheffler. That was the first time early in the round. It's like it was a possibility, but on 13 fairway, if he makes either birdie or eagle, how was that drive so far back? Yeah. Did he hit three wood or something? That was so far. He was right in the middle of the fairway and there was no even thought about trying to sling a draw. I didn't see the tee shot. He was really far back. I mean, we're, um, plus him in 50 yards. The day, a couple of days ago he had that driving iron into it. I, I, it's a really hard shot for Scotty because if he wants to, to get in a good spot, he has to turn the ball over, which he doesn't, doesn't really like to do. Other, other notes you guys want to unload. We could do, I have a couple of quick grades I want to get to. Tyrrell Haddon, Wikipedia, yellow, the definition of Wikipedia, yellow. I mean, Mark Hall of finishes. Hey, that's awesome. I was lost. He gets an absolute eight in this week. He was leading a, Fleetwood was pretty. He was in the mix for a little bit and then totally ejected. He gets a bad, that was yesterday. Yeah. Max Helma with like the most irrelevant top 10. You know what though? Max has been a long time from like sniffing any like top 10s in a major. He played really well. And I think I know just if you don't like to think he's a, he's a placement level PJ to our player, but here he plays good golf here. And like, I think that speaks something to his imagination and his game. A certain media member, this is three top 10s now in the master, three top 15s. A certain media member did pose a question to me that, um, could Max Helma be the first guy to qualify like via top 12 in the masters, but also loses to our card in the same year. I guarantee that that would not be, there's plenty of dudes back in the day. They used to take top 16 at the, the masters come back. I mean, you know, a couple others, the, the Cantley T 12, he might not, he might not qualify for the masters next year. Speed was T. Other than the T 12 speed was T. He's also said after a round that he's some really good golf is kind of, I, I hope you lens the heritage. I saw what he said. He said, I've never hit it better. Even in the years when I like other, maybe other than the year I won, I've never hit it better than I hit it this week. The putting was, putting was bad. Where are you guys with read and burns? Are we giving burns? Burns probably gets a positive mark. Cause you finished T seven bad Sunday. I know that the taste of the mouth is not good right now. Get the, didn't get the promotion. No, no, he just, he made a bad arrest. He was super well. He rested the wrong guy. I did think briefly though, cause we did the 86 rewatch when Burns birdied 16 on that like 50 footer. I was like, whoa, what if he makes another birdie? And then he's like, all of a sudden like Tom kite, like putting for the lead. And everyone's like, where did this come from? Well, he was, we watched him at 17. That was like consequential pot. He doubled two. Yeah. I didn't see that happen. So two, apparently that was not on the broadcast at all. The double two, they showed him teeing off and then not mention anything that happened on two, has there been any broadcast takes yet? Honestly, I look, it wasn't great. There was a lot of frustrating things on the back nine. I mean, losing shots, like completely losing track of players. Uh, it just was like a, a weird year for CBS. I didn't quite understand what was going on exactly, but they were, I mean, they, I didn't even think they talked really about Scott. He getting jammed by how long for like 10 minutes. Oh, it was so bad. 10 is a generous, but Joseph and I were there as 20. I also think he might have taken a stinky drop still. At that point, I just wanted him taking any drop to move the proceed, like literally throw the ball in the hole because he's not going to win. Like just throw it on the green. I was watching the Aiman corner feed and I kept looking back to it and I was cause I was trying to pay attention to Scotty and the broadcast was like, it didn't go back to Scotty forever. I couldn't figure out one. So I flipped it over and you could just see how Tom, like wandering through the bushes doing, you know, and then he's like, it was on the creek. At least 20 minutes. It just felt like there should have been a discussion about that of like, Hey, Scott Schaeffler has a real chance to win the masters and having to wait like 20 minutes to hit his second shot on 13. At one point, how Tom picked up his ball to take an unplayable. And I think he was incorrect about where he could take it and had to go back after he'd already picked it up. It was a scene. He's a character. I mean, he was, he definitely made me laugh with all that stuff about pooping his brains out all week. But I, you know, that was not exactly a, it was a bit unbecoming when you're playing with a guy who's like truly in contention. Poor marks for day, poor marks for Reed. I didn't read it. It was just disappeared. Tough week. I just kind of, you know, he did his sponsor obligation Friday night and touched the sun and Vista jet. They flew literally flew on his Vesta jet to the sun. I would, the Hatton, the Hatton T four or whatever T three, I will like remember it's the most inconsequential T three. I'm sorry. Speaking of inconsequential T three, the Russ bus. Oh, I mean, there were shades of, of the Ryder cup where Russ is surging into the, into contention and then all of a sudden he just starts hitting terrible pot. Hand up, just watching the board, speaking of people who you ever thought had a chance to win. I was, I was worried about the existence of. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just, I, he just got to 10 so quick and I was like, I haven't watched Russell Hindley hit a shot all week. I don't know what I don't have anything to comment on. Listen, what, what Reed said in the pre tournament about there being 10 to 12 players that could win the tournament is so true. And, and, and of the people that finished on the board, I think it's like Rory Schaeffler, I don't think Hatton is going to win the masters personally. Um, uh, Justin Rose, Cameron Young, and, and that was, that was it. Those four, it felt like through the day at one point or another. And like that, it's Andrew Shoffley didn't play well enough. And, you know, and then you go down and John Rom, uh, John Rom shot a nice 68 to 38 grade, live golf grade. Oh, well, they had a podium finish. They got a podium. What's the poll? I'm gonna tell you, my younger days, this is one, uh, just relishes me ball. I want to throw this to the, to Kevin and the boys like live, but golf could, could not have been a more disastrous. Why are you going to do that? I mean, sir, sir, do you know, they're trying to foster, try to foster a relationship. Hooks and the impressionable young boys over there. They are targeted the boys as the mark. They are, they're trying to get their hopes in you. I saw the email. Once with honor, Bron, Lahiri. Coming soon. Coming soon. I'd say close to, close to an F. I'll give it a D. Cause of Teryl. Cause of Teryl. Because it's Teryl. I think John Rom and Bryson was super embarrassing, but Sergio also. Sergio got the headline. On the PR front. Not great. Sergio, I mean, Sergio is who we thought he was. I've written about this for my entire career. Yeah. I think you're the one person who's really always been like, I got guy, I'm not here to play along. Yeah. If you, you were an asshole at 20 and an asshole at 25 and come here. Like in your asshole at 35 and you're still in it. And he's still doing it. It's like, oh, Sergio's matured. I read that story when I was like 10 years ago. I'm so spinning in a cup. Like he's still an asshole. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. I'm sorry. And he hasn't done anything since he won. Am I yelling too much? Sorry. Yeah, it's okay. It's just okay. This is Sergio's always a button that you can always just. It was the least surprising thing. Media got some grief. This old bad question, Scotty, but the media was kind of riding Sergio pretty guy. They're trying to get some answers out of him. And he wouldn't answer. No, he snapped at him, of course, but I was impressed. Like you and Murray, Bob Herrick kept going at him. What, you know, like, what was the conduct for? Like, well, I'm not going to answer. Next question, you know, and what did, what, well, what did Yang say to you? I'm not going to tell you. He took a chunk out of the T box and smashed his driver on a cooler. You know, Doug Ferguson had the report that Jeff Yang, the new chairman, competition, first year on the job, just thrown in the deep. I'm getting some Sergio reps. Went out to the fourth tee and said, gave him a code of conduct warning. Ferguson, the great AP reported added also hearing this new conduct policy is being used for the first time this year for at least two majors. So second violation, two shots, third is DQ. Are they combined? It should be like, do we want it should be like points on your license? You keep them like that. And then if you get enough, like if next year he gets another conduct violation, it's a stroke. One more of that. It's a DQ. It's like Dreymont Green with the technicals over the first year. And then they accrue and they MBA Hansel Braun, a title. Who do we want? All right. Who do we want to name this after? Because I think no, no, because after if if two majors, you know, after incidents of two majors last year, this is the Wyndham Clark rule. Yeah, this is this is the Wyndham Clark rule. Period. The end. Can I tell you something that made me just giggle to but while I was sitting by myself early in the morning, please. So so Sergio breaks his driver and and then like I'm watching. I'm just sitting by nine green, just enjoying the morning, watching players play through, you know, start with kitty cat there. Next group up, I'm like the scoreboard turns and Sergio and Ram. And there's one ball, like 25 yards behind it. And I'm like, oh, it's Sergio and it's still on the downslope. So I'm down to the flat and Sergio's on the downslope because he had to hit three with he had an awesome shot. But I just was like chuckling myself. I'm like, oh, my God, he just made this whole so much harder because on the second hole of the fourth round, when he's completely out of the mix, he decided to break his driver. Of course, he had a real enormous ass I'll answer about that, too. They were like, well, how hard was it to we didn't have driver? It's easy because there's no decision. You just hit the with every hole. Next question. I actually love that. That's great. I mean, what? Just breaking your driver when like an inconsequential Sunday morning. He's 40th in the tournament at this point. And he's playing with one of his friends. 45 years old. I love John. I love for John's like, whoa. Yeah, that look. Ram saying he'll now prepare differently, but won't say what. He's like, I'm going to start doing this differently. Like the greens are this firm. I'm going to start doing this differently. Oh, wait. The greens are this firm. But yeah, he said, you don't see if this firm I need to prepare differently. Yeah, that's purple. I need to prepare. So much so that John Rom has to prepare. That's what he said. I just was a live. Is this like many people right into this is like, oh, the live schedules a joke. It doesn't prepare you for the majors. I don't think that's what he meant necessarily. Also, yeah, Rory didn't exactly, you know, he praise on the PGA tour lead up. Oh, totally. Not like this isn't a pure live. I didn't read it that way. Quite frankly, also on live. But why didn't he tell us what he know? You know, I can't wait for our. I mean, I think I know what he meant. He could just pull the Rory and play, you know, just show up. Just just kind of be here all the time. I worked. I can't wait for next year. Let's go into the next year. Max Grazerman qualifies, you know, miraculous run. And he decides he wants to do the Rory prep. And he spent three weeks in Augusta and two days in there. They tap him on the shoulder. What are you, what are you leaving? He's probably busy agitating for crypto to be paid out on the purse. I heard a good story this week. I think we just send you a bill. It's just like, hey, hey, we think you maybe need to stay to the quality end up the road. We're going to send you a bill for the first two weeks and it's like two hundred thousand dollars. What other notes do you guys have? Joseph, watch on the live stuff. The only time Phil Mickelson missed this year's event, whatever's going on. And the only time he made any headlines was having a crazy take about 13 and 15. Like just unserious. Spell out what's his take. What was his take? He basically said that length is not always better. Now there aren't eagles. Lengthening the holes. Right. Yes. That now there aren't eagles anymore on 13 and 15, which I think you guys covered yesterday, but I mean, 13 and 15 were probably the two highlights of the tournament this year. Yeah. Oh yeah. Not easy birdies at all. Mostly a lot of fives. Go ahead. I just, I had this note, Joseph, from standing at the first tee. Cameron comes across and takes his hat off, shakes all the markers and the announcer's hands and Rory just blow by all business. Didn't even flinch at anybody. I just wanted to point that out. Put him in jail. You know. A good guy. Not so good guy? Bad guy? Yeah. I mean, Jerry would shake their hand. You wanted to bring up the hat we saw. This was my favorite moment with LaManya. We were on 13, Houghton's puttin' around. There's an older gentleman in a red, fire engine red hat. And we know what that means nowadays. A red hat with big, bold. Hawks fan. Big, bold letters on the front. Okay. And he turns and he faces us and you know, you expect certain verbiage. It says, relax. It's just a red hat on the front. And he was an older gentleman in the demo. That's good. And LaManya, I go like, you're going to Sunday at the master's? Like, you look at the closet. You're like, I'm going with this one today. And I'm gonna wear this on 13 at eight. Relax. It's just a red hat. It's pretty good. I saw a guy dressed in like full Sigma Chi fraternity regalia. And he was like 65 years old. Like hat and like white button down shirt. And it's like, What was the hell about? Like you decided to wear all frat gear and you're like 65 to the master's on Sunday. And it was a long sleeve button down. It's going to be 90. Usher. I saw usher in a sweater out there. Usher Raymond. The, he looked very hot. Joe Jonas was in some crazy fit with a lot of cotton that he could not have been comfortable with. Raffin the doll was the only celebrity I saw this week. He was around the first tee. Speaking of the first tee, an interesting moment, just random. Totally random note. As roaring cam were on the first tee, getting ready to go, JT and Victor finished putting out 18. Oh yeah. That was crazy. And they were walking through the tunnel and going to the clubhouse. And like they're in the middle of the tunnel and JT just like turns back and like looks at the first tee. And like lawningly, like just just staring at it. It's like, it's just totally full. It's enveloping cam hadn't put his peg in the ground yet. I always noticed them all. It was interesting. It was like a moving, not moving, but it was powerful. Like obviously I could be there late two o'clock tee time. Can I ask a serious question? Uh-oh, JT. This could go a lot of ways. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. If you had to bet on JT or Jordan Spieth winning another Masters, who would you bet on? Another Masters? Yeah. Or winning a Masters. Justin Thomas. Justin Thomas. Jordan Spieth. I know who you're taking. So we got one for each. I think Spieth. Yeah. Justin Thomas has never showed any ability to compete here. But he's shown a pulse in the last 18 months. No, it's really good. It's really good. It's right around the corner. Who's contended in more majors in the last five years, Spieth or JT? I think it's Spieth. Five years? I don't know. I don't think I care what. Feels like a conversation we have next Sunday too. Just Thomas has been in one contending major. I'm gonna go below to below at Harvard Town next year. Neither of them is serious. The DL3. The DL3 memorial for JT and Spieth. Those two are gonna get some big signature points next week, I feel like. I'll take JT's future earnings. How did Spieth earn a spot at the Heritage? Or was it sponsored? I believe it was on his own merit actually because of his finish, but you know who did get a sponsor exemption? Tony Fee now. Oh my God, he's on the full circuit. Look at this. It might be our time to sign off. Anything else? What else, Kim? Any other big picks with thoughts? I was gonna say, I think Jordan Spieth. I think Spieth. If I had to bet on one. Yeah, if I had to pick the two, I would take Spieth. I think Jordan Spieth and he, John. Mr. Potts was still on around. Mr. Potgeeter is just the old man. What a amusing. It's been a lot of couple times. Like just chocolate. I saw McKibbin was in full Legion 13. Presumably he's scripting for John K. Yeah, yeah. This is a good question from the crowd. Rory, Rory, a double grand slam or Spieth, what's it more likely? Rory, double grand slam or Spieth, grand slam. So he needs another US open. And another open. I'll throw Joseph Bonier. I don't think Spieth can win a PGA. I don't think. I don't think anybody's fighting. No, I think he can win. I think he might have a better chance when the grand slam is done. I think he can stop him. I actually think if you were gonna pick a course that he could win at, I think he could win at Mirrored on a Mink. Hey, I think he won at Frisco. Would it count at Frisco? Would it count? There's too much trouble at Frisco. It's a home game for him. Would it count at Frisco? Would that actually count? Or would you just give it a half? I think there's a real chance that Rory boycotts Frisco. That would be sick. I bet no. Conversely, he wins it. And then he has to acknowledge that. It's Frisco. That's a full deal. All right, go ahead, yeah. Big picture thought. Please, that's why you're here. We love you. I think the Masters has, I wouldn't get this right. There's a little bit more and more creep every year of the kind of corporate sanding of its edges. I really felt that this year for the first time. Oh, you want to do that? Yeah, let's do it. Let's open it up a can of work here at the two hour mark. I was like, are we going on the Wednesday? I was looking at this. Is this the Wednesday episode? Please. I think it might be the boys. The boys might be right. We also have a big takeaway this week is PGA Tour versus for the entities that are not the PGA Tour. We'll talk about that another time. But please, Kevin, go ahead. You know, obviously some of the part three stuff became a big part of that conversation this week and like the clown show that has kind of lost and contained a little bit. And I was trying to trace back when this part three in my mind became like a celebrity event and my old employer ESPN is certainly part of the participation in that. Touting the ratings. I think it's when Tiger brought Lindsey Vaughn to be his caddy, kind of soft launch there relationship at the part three and it became like a TV event. Oh my gosh, like Tiger and Lindsey were dating. This is like, everyone wants to tune in because first years he had rejected the silliness in the part three. He did. He's like, this is dumb. If I'm competing for the tournament, I'm not going to play in this hit and giggle where people bring their families around. But he kind of like legitimized what we see today, which is that it's just basically like a family circus, which is fine. But it also, I don't know, it's like, it's we're losing a little bit of what the tournament used to be. And this is like truly the dumbest probably analogy that I could come up with to sort of illustrate this. I feel a little bit bad because I was recommending like the peach ice cream sandwiches in our guide this year. I was like, oh, they're so great. And they were so mediocre. And I was like, you know what, this strikes me as like some, like hedge fund person was like, you know, we could make these peach ice cream sandwiches way more efficient and for way cheaper if we just like commoditize them. I think there might be an ice cream shortage. They're just not as good as they once were. And that used to be- The ice cream, there's not as much ice cream in it. Sure. And I'm sure people will be like, oh, fuck, I didn't like the ice cream. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But like, it's just, to me, it's like a larger thing about like, okay, these used to be this original cool thing. And now they're just like a thing that you could get at the grocery store. They just taste that way. And it feels to me like a little bit of the charm was lost in that sense. Well, the mert, let's, we haven't even touched on the mert. The mert is a huge explosion of the me. Stupid. That's where it's kind of out of bounds. Who wants a doggie bowl with master's things on it? Who wants a, you know, like literally anything, the salt shakers, the Christmas tree ornaments, the footballs, a baseball, like there's nothing that you can't imagine that they don't put a master's on. I almost grabbed the football. Cause we saw some other median members. I was joking about it. Huck at baseball outside and we got jealous. I think, you know- Who's the other one besides the- All right, all right, all right. It's our gambling fact, our gambling- Okay. Look, this seemed to be a big narrative debate early in the week. I think like we're in an era of incredible master's tournaments. Like let's be real here. Ram, Scotty, Rory twice, Tiger 2019, Scotty twice. Yeah. Like it's an incredible run of master's tournaments. I, I thought like whatever, the celebrity stuff and the goofiness and the Miz and Kevin Hart and all that, like I can just, it's not for me. I don't really watch the part three anyways. Like if, like I get people's offenders being offended by that, but whatever. I think where like the stuff was really out of balance is like the merch haul becoming an identity of the tournament. That said, like I had, I think it's growing it in a way that maybe is probably not appealing to others. I had a, I had a woman, like a good friend of ours, my wife's good friend, like very dignified, reserved person, not a merch haul, not like text me this morning, like I saw this hat and I love it. And like never asked me, could you get this for me? It's growing, it's going into these different tentacles, but like the notion of the, Did you get it? I tried, it was sold out. I did try, cause this person like is like a normal, good person that asked me for it. It's like, holy crap, she wants a hat? Like then like this must be going into different bloodstreams. And that's not a bad thing. But the merch stuff just for me is where it all seems out of balance and the celebrity pictures on site and the, and the posting where like, I don't know if you should bring your cameras the first three days, because now it feels like people are bringing their cameras to take pictures of themselves in this arena, not to take pictures of the competition. The social team is told to follow the celebrities and shoot a bunch of stuff. And like that would never have been the case like 10 years ago. The masters has never felt cheap to me. And for the first time, there's like a couple elements that are upon the edges that are starting to feel kind of cheap. This does not matter, but in the like restaurant, in the dining, the media dining area, they have like the clocks around the world. Did notice the hands were not fully lined up. And that is a small thing. It does not matter, but I don't know, attention to detail. It's like, look, it's a fine line. If they want to grow with women and they want to grow with kids and like, I don't like blame them for that. The one thing I'll say about all the hooting and hollering and the carving, like to lean back on the speed line, I would think like nobody is thinking about this more than the masters. Trust me, burner Twitter account. Trust me, like frustrated, whatever 75 year old dude. Like I would think the masters is thinking like, considering these outcomes, where are we going over the line and like following the discourse about it? Like I do feel like they are not going to thirstily go after every inch and maybe there's some sort of re-correction after this. I don't know. I don't know if we should have cameras the first three days after just what I see is people lining up to take pictures of themselves, like the merch haul thing. The merch was just the one thing that I felt like got really out of balance. The celebrity stuff, whatever. Anyways, that's it. That was a big observation, a big picture. Yeah, I just think it's a delicate thing to play with. We probably go to overboard sometimes being like, oh, it's a sacred place. Like it's a golf tournament. But there is something that sort of makes it unique within the world of golf and it would be a real shame to lose that. I mean, you wrote a great thing about the sort of atmosphere of the first tee. It's like one of the things that I love about the masters, right, is there is no corporate sort of set up there. Like these players are playing for history and they have to weave their way through this collection of rumbled sportswriters and women in sun dresses and billionaires in their green jackets and agents sort of hustling to hear the gossip and the scuttle butt. And it's like this great kind of organic thing. They just form a human tunnel. They don't even have ropes between you and the players. And we were standing there on Saturday, just kind of standing there. And Rory came by and he saw us and he was kind of like, the look on his face was like, what are you guys doing here? Like it was sort of funny. Being rumbled sportswriters. Oh, I know these guys. And I just think that's kind of part of what makes it special. And if any of that goes away, I just feel like something's lost that you can't really get back. Yeah, that's still there. It's still there and all of a sudden you're next to Rafa or whoever and they're just me and or what the people. Mostly you have the same rights as Travis Kelsey, which is kind of amazing. Like we were just standing there. He was out there Saturday. Yeah, for me it's just the merch thing. I don't know, canceled merch, just empty it. I don't know, I don't know what you do, but it's fine. I think, I don't know. I think they could fix the merch thing by just having an online store where everybody buys it. Yeah. And it's like, the thing that's crazy to me about the merch is like, these people, it's like you're going to the masters for the one time in your life and I get you want to get a keepsake. I understand that. I get you want to get keepsakes. But it's like, they wait in line for two hours. They shop for an hour. Then they gotta run the bags back to their car. And it's like half your day's gone. Well, someone noted, I think it was from Bunker that the crowd around the honorary starters was sparse. Sparser than normal. But yet the merch line was over an hour wait. And it's like, that's where I think you're getting a little out about. You are coming to a shopping event with a little bit of golf. I don't know, I just think that's not the goal. Maybe there's some Jack and Gary fatigue. But like Jack's probably not going to hit the ceremony or a tee shot for many more years. Even he kind of was like, well, I don't know how many more years I'm going to do this. He hit this low hook. He said, I don't play golf more than once a year. And even then, I'm in a cart. So it's like, he's not a golfer anymore, but this one ritual gets him up going for it. And there's this person who kind of helped make the masters what it is. And it's kind of like people can't be bothered by it. And I think, man, the first year I went to the masters, Arnold Palmer was there. And he came out for the ceremony tee shot. He was really ill. He died probably four months later. And they were really trying to encourage him to hit it one more shot. Jack was like, just take a putter. And there was like tears in his eyes. He and Gary were both crying because they knew it was the last time that Arnie was going to be it. And it was such a kind of special thing. And everybody around could sort of feel that. And maybe that's a testament to Arnie. But that is kind of gone. There's a lot of reels. That's what drove me. I know it fed into it. Like every time I open my Instagram, it's like more reels of people showing the 800 things I bought. And I was like, is that why more of what's being celebrated about this tournament now? I don't know. Anyways, that got out of bounds. Anything else? I think honestly, this is for the end of the show. We didn't talk about Fred Ridley's Wednesday thing much. We'll talk about that at another time. I think there's a tension that's probably going to add. That seems to be very quite clear between the majors. Certainly Gusta National, Brian Rolapp's new era of leadership at the PGA Tour that we'll probably discuss in detail. I don't know if we need to go and do it right now, quite frankly. But that was a big takeaway from this week. I think we could do a whole thing of that when we're in Scotland. We're off to Scotland, the three of us. Maybe we'll give it to the boys. The baton to the boys. The boys might be to Wednesday's show. Might be just always solo. Yeah, it was going to be cooler. I would say like the sixth hole than maybe it is currently. But you mean if Cam had won? Yeah. We'll be fine. You should ask him. We'll be fine. Ask him to come on and have a little deep breath about what we're going to do. I'm worried if Cam's ever coming back to the boys. I'm not concerned. I'm not worried about that. I mean, Joseph was getting clocked by all the relatives but like Cam Young, like Team Young, they knew Joseph quite well. He's sort of the whisperer of the team Young, it seems like. It's pretty fun to watch that happen. All right, I think that does it for our final show from Augusta. Thanks for reading our stuff this week. The 26th. Kevin obviously has elevated us in a major way. And it was awesome to see you cook. We had you at the Ryder Cup, but just in the nascent days of your time here. A lot of great stuff from Joseph who's on top of Cam Watch, Gerard Watch. Gerard Watch. That's a cool story. Kind of a tough day to know. Where did he finish? 39th or something. But he said that he's going to talk about it. Ryan was a cool dude. He was great. So that's good content. He balls. He has some bad bike etiquette over there from the boys. It's fine. One bad day did not diminish like a great masters for a person who's experienced it all. It was fun to read those dispatches. Read Kevin on fridaygolf.com or thefridayg.com. Please subscribe to our newsletter. That would be good things. Subscribe to the newsletter. Go buy a new Mercedes if it suits you. Visit BeatRatty.com. Use SGS30. Hey, we are very lucky that anyone listens, anyone reads, anyone cares that we're able to do this. We have a blast. No matter the tournament, it's just a blast to be able to come to the Masters and cover it and get in the weeds with this. Hopefully our output has served that purpose and served your time because we don't take it lightly. Shout out to Cam for his great photos. Yeah. Yeah, Cam and Curtis. He said no to the Masters. Said he will come as long as they will have an incredible photographer. For Adam, our editor back home. Adam. He has shoveled a lot of copy. He was incredible. He had a lot thrown at him. Like we got. Graves, gravy boy. Graphics boy. We got a lot of compliments about our output and Adam is a big part of being able to. Austin on the socials. Austin on the socials. We have a great team here. We really do. It's not just the people speaking right now. So thank you for listening. Thank you for watching, reading. We will be back with you. Business Pete. Business Pete. We just got some door dash. Thank you. We'll submit that to Business Pete. We had a great meal at Reinhardt. We can just keep going on here. It's thanking all the people. Thank you all for listening. Thank you, Taco Cat. We'll be back Wednesday in some form or fashion. Maybe you'll be boys. Maybe it'll be us from Scotland. Thanks again for listening all week. Talk to you soon.