Dead Meat Podcast

267: Letterboxd Showdown

71 min
Apr 16, 20263 days ago
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Summary

Chelsea and James from Dead Meat Podcast play a Letterboxd-based guessing game with four horror film categories, attempting to identify movies from aggregated user lists. The hosts discuss Letterboxd's impact on cinema culture and younger audiences while competing across categories including creepiest kids in film, best horror sequels, unseen villains, and weirdest women in film.

Insights
  • Letterboxd has successfully gamified movie watching and logging, creating a badge-of-honor culture around discovering niche and obscure horror films among younger audiences
  • Aggregated user-generated lists on platforms like Letterboxd can reveal surprising gaps in what the horror community considers canonical (e.g., Child's Play 2 not appearing on best sequels list)
  • The subjectivity of film categorization (e.g., 'weirdest women' or 'unseen villains') creates ambiguity in crowdsourced lists, leading to inconsistent inclusion criteria
  • Horror film discourse has shifted toward appreciating lesser-known international and recent films alongside classic franchises, reflecting Letterboxd's curation influence
Trends
Letterboxd's role in democratizing film criticism and discovery among Gen Z audiencesIncreased visibility of international horror films (French, Czechoslovakian) in mainstream horror discourseGamification of media consumption driving deeper engagement with niche film categoriesCrowdsourced film rankings revealing canonical gaps in horror franchise appreciationRising prominence of recent horror films (2010s-2020s) in 'best of' aggregations over classic 80s-90s entriesSocial media platforms enabling micro-communities around specific film subgenres and aesthetics
Companies
Letterboxd
Social platform for logging, rating, and reviewing films; central to the episode's game mechanics and discussed as a ...
Blumhouse Productions
Horror production company mentioned in context of Lee Cronin's The Mummy and as a producer of contemporary horror films
Criterion Collection
Film distribution company mentioned when James discusses purchasing a 4K Criterion release of Chungking Express
People
Chelsea
Co-host of the Dead Meat Podcast, married to James, participates in the Letterboxd guessing game
James
Co-host of the Dead Meat Podcast, married to Chelsea, participates in the Letterboxd guessing game
Ben
Created the Letterboxd guessing game for this episode; manages brand and produces creative content for the show
Grussel
Produces games and runs game mechanics on the podcast; manages technical aspects of episode production
Lee Cronin
Director of The Mummy, featured in episode sponsor segment discussing a creepy child character in the film
Quotes
"I think letterbox has really helped get the younger generation into movies. It kind of gamifies watching movies and logging the movies."
Chelsea~15:00
"Glasses are a weird market. Got to pay to see."
James~02:30
"I love the watch list function. I'll be talking to someone, they'll mention a movie and I can pull it up, add it to my letterbox watch list."
Chelsea~16:00
"Obsession is my number one movie period of the year. Any genre. Like it's so fucking good. It fucking rules."
James~95:00
"I feel like that stops happening in your 30s. You say that but Ben's in his 30s now."
Chelsea~12:00
Full Transcript
What do you think? I think we're dead meat. Real dead meat. You're dead meat! Go ahead and laugh you guys. Find the final little glasses at this distance. At Dead Meat. Welcome to the Dead Meat podcast, your horror safe haven. I'm Chelsea. I'm James. We're married and we like to get scared together. I'm soft launching glasses. Yeah. I guess hard launching. I don't know how you can soft launch glasses. Yeah. Like have them on for a frame. Oh, like a monocle? You're describing a monocle I guess. No, no, no, no, like a fight club situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Splice in. Uh-huh, single frame. Yeah. I got a couple of pairs. I've got this one on now, but how do I look? They're very... I feel like I got hosed on these. I went to the nearest optometrist. No, glasses are just expensive. Are they? It's such a... The whole thing's a racket. Like I don't think you can go anywhere and have it be not expensive. Okay. Because I feel like I got Versace glasses and that sounds expensive. Yeah. Yeah. Why? All the... I feel like glasses are all kind of like... Designed. Are they like designer brands? Yes. Okay. Because I had... I'm trying to remember what random ass designer glasses I had in like high school. Yeah. And I thought it was so bizarre. It's shit that I would never be... Yeah, I don't know. Ever, ever, ever. But I went to a fucking eye place. That's what they showed me. That's what I bought. That's just what is there. Yeah. I don't know. Glasses are a weird market. Got to pay to see. Grussel doesn't know. Nope. Fuckers. He sees for free. Yeah, he sees for free. It's getting worse though. Uh-oh. Good. Good. Join us in age and myopia. I'm older than you. Well, today we... Because we've been out of town and we had to push the podcast a day. This one's coming out late and hopefully we can edit it in a day. Yeah. This is how like down to the wire this is. So while we were out of town, brand manager Ben put together this game for us to play. So we'll see how this goes. We're kind of flying blind here, which is exciting. Thank you, Ben. And I'm excited to get to play a game because I never get to play the games on the podcast. I feel like now you get to play the games, you know? Yeah. I feel like the past couple of years. Things to Grussel. Yes. And Ben, Ben's able to put them together. Grussel's able to run them. That's true. So, yeah. We're going to have to dissipate a little bit more. And we get to compete. Yeah. I'm ready to take score. This one is a game with letterbox lists. And it's just, it's us guessing what... So explain it because I'm not on letterbox. I am. So explain how... At Dead Me James. Explain how the lists that Ben pulled from work. How... Because what this is is it's us guessing. We're going to be given a category and it's us guessing what movies, characters, whatever appear on these lists. So on letterbox you can make lists. I haven't done so yet, but I really should. I should do like Hill Count movies covered or podcast movies covered, whatever. And other users can follow those lists. So what I imagine Ben did was find some very popular lists having to do with horror and then gathered them up and put them on a list for Grussel. And now we are having to guess the items, the movies included on these lists based on the title of the list. But these are all ones where the categories themselves have been kind of, they've been done by more than one person. So I think what's happening here is it's like, I'm trying to give an example that I know is not on here. Like horror... War movies. Yeah. War... Like it's top... War movies. Top 10 war movies. Okay. So we're making a bunch of users lists of top 10 war movies and it's kind of an aggregate... It's like averaging out... I wonder how that data is found. What... I don't know. I don't know how... Again, I don't go on letterbox. I don't know how Ben found this data. It's not dissimilar from how they do like sports top 25. Where like a bunch of sports writers rank their top 25 teams. That will not be the same top 25 teams. Yeah. So where gets the 25 teams with the most votes become the top 25. The 25... Okay. But who's determining the selection of lists from which the votes are calculated? Is it like ESPN or some other sports organization? The AP Associated Press. Okay. Or there's a coach's ball. It doesn't matter. So I wonder what the equivalent... It is letterbox. This list in the letterbox link when I open up the actual letterbox link... Letterbox is the one who has... Has these final lists. Oh, okay. Yes. So it's letterbox lists based on user lists. Got it. Okay. And each list... I'm gonna say the word list so many. Each list has 20. Each list has 20. Okay. From users top 10. Okay. Yes. The 20 things... Because I don't think the categories are all movies. The 20 things that appear the most times... The answers are all movies. Oh, the answers are all movies. The answers are all movie titles. Okay. That appear the most times in users top 10 lists. Got it. Okay. Of whatever categories it's gonna be. I picked the categories earlier today and I don't fucking remember what they are. Okay. So. Okay. That might give you a slight advantage because I don't know anything. I'm so blind right now but that's okay. That's fine. Hence the glasses. Nice. All right. And then what are the rules of us playing? It's like a back and forth thing. Yes. We're gonna go back and forth and just try and guess what's on each of these. You get a point if you guess something right. If both of us are stumped and we can't think of anything, we can agree to ask for a clue. And if a clue is given, then it's just kind of a free for all and whoever guesses next. It can be out of turn, out of order, gets the next point and then it goes back to guessing back and forth. Okay. And Ben said someone somewhere else played this game. He did with his friends. Oh. Yeah. They do that. They have like these fun creative part of it. They'll have like PowerPoint parties where they each prepare a PowerPoint and get together and do that. I wish we did that. I know. I feel like that stops happening in your 30s. You say that but Ben's in this 30s now. That's true. Maybe it's only time. We were just hoping for Ben to be less creative and fun so that we'll feel better about ourselves very soon. I love game nights. It sounds so fun. I know. They're good. I'm going to do this. I mean, we're going to do it right now. We are. Let's focus on that. Let's focus on the positive. Okay. All right. Let's our first category. All right. Your first category is a Chelsea classic, Creepiest Kids in Film. Okay. Now remember, the answers are movie titles, not the kids themselves. And it doesn't matter what order we're not trying to get the first, second, third in that order. No, the order doesn't matter. The order doesn't get you more points. You just have to get a correct answer and then it alternates to the next person. And remind me, are there 10 or 20? There are 20. 20 total answers. Wanted to be here all fucking night. 20 total answers. Holy shit. Here's what I'm so worried about is because it's fucking letterboxed. I'm so worried it's going to be like some obscure bullshit. No, because that's the aggregate. That's true. And honestly, I've got to say right now, I know that I remember a few years ago and I won't give the specifics of why, but we were doing something and I remember you being like, I think I hate letterbox and they had nothing to do with the site and I won't say why you said that. Yeah, I can remember that. Yeah. I use letterbox now. I try to maintain it and I think we all owe a thanks to letterbox because I think it has really helped get the younger generation into movies. That's true. Who are we just talking about that with? Because it just came up at Overlook. It kind of gamifies watching movies and logging the movies and Gressel shaking his head, but like it's, I don't think it's done in a negative way. Yes. A lot of people do like the quippy reviews and like whatever. But I love the watch list function. Oh, we talked about that on our panel at Overlook. Oh, yeah. Letterbox came up. Yeah. The idea that it's getting a younger generation into way more obscure stuff. Yeah. And it's kind of like a badge of honor to like get deeper and deeper into niche corners of stuff. And like I said, just the watch list function is great. I'll be talking to someone. They'll mention a movie and I can pull it up, add it to my letterbox watch list. Next time we're like, oh, I want to watch something, but I don't know what. I have a list that you can sort by the way by anything by, by including runtime. So if you're like, oh, I want to watch a shorter movie, fucking sort it. Oh, this thing's 82 minutes long. Pop it in. Great. Yeah. I should finally get a letterbox, but it's going to be private. None of you get to see my letterbox. And that's fair too. And you can log it any way you want. You could just put I watched this movie on this date. No rate, no, like rating. Yeah. I don't want to do ratings. I feel self conscious about it every time I put one in. Cause there's to me, star ratings, cause there's such thing as a five star, three star and there's such thing as like a two star, five star, like, and you can, people often kind of put their own personal metrics in their profile. Like, like what those star ratings mean to them. And for me, it's often like, did it accomplish what it's trying to do? Cause that's how I try to judge movies. But also, you know, you don't, you can also leave a review without a star rating where you just say like a thought or two about the movie. It's, it's very customizable and I've come to really appreciate it just as a way to keep cinema alive with the general audience. Yeah. Maybe I'll get on there, but again, none of you will get to see it maybe someday, but it's going to be like, you know, when they eat the, the, the birds with the napkin over their head. Or the lawn. Yeah. An order line. That's me with my movie watching activity. None of you get to witness it. Great. Okay. So, okay. It's, it's creepiest kids in horror and we're, we're going for movie titles here. Creepiest kids in film. Ben provide, Ben, Ben provided a note, some very helpful notes to, for players to start. And there are two notes for this list. The first is this was published eight months ago. So anything that has come out more recently do not include it. I don't know if you would. You would. And then two of these movies aren't horror. The one is a thriller. Okay. Got it. Okay. Okay. Who's going to start? I wish we had a coin. We'll get full of the coin. Rock, paper, scissors. Okay. Not even two out of three. Yeah. Rock, paper, scissors. Oh, on shoot though. Yeah. Okay. Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot. Got it. My scissors beat her paper. Yeah. Okay. Children of the corn. Is on the list. Creepy skins and horror. The sixth sense. Is on the list. Yes. Remember it's not in horror because those two are not. Oh yeah. Sorry. But in film. The omen. Is on the list. The exorcist. Is on the list. Village of the damned. Is on the list. Okay. Orphan's not a kid. I had that thought. The ring. Is on the list. Is on the list. Okay. Insidious. No. Oh, first blank. The shining, the twins. Yes. On the list. They're not twins though. It depends on who's telling the story. Depends on who. Yeah. Okay. All right. Creepy kids. I know now it's going to get hard. And one of them is explicitly not a horror movie. Two of these are not horror movies. But one's a thriller. But one is a thriller. I'll shoot my shot with bloody birthday. No. Fuck it. Come on. Letterbox. Um, the grudge. No. What? The little cowboy? Dude. Bloody birthday, man. But the grudge is. Yeah, it's better. It's a better more. More. Oh, no. Okay. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Oh, this is going to be hard. Really got seven. Okay. Ringu. No. Ringu. I mean, that fair. Um, Carol Ann, Poltergeist. No. Fuck. I guess she's not creepy. Five nights at Freddy's. Little ghost. What? So confident with Fred Nights at Freddy's. No. I think it just being movies is even though I know it's not. It's just being movies is even though I know it's going to be horror movies, but I think I'm just, I'm psyching myself out. I'm also just trying not to stay too modern. But okay, creepy kid. I did. I did a two parter fucking podcast on this. I should know. Yeah, like seven years ago. I know that was so long ago. So long ago. Uh, someone listening to this wasn't born when you did. Dude, don't say that. Does does Sam from trick or treat count trick or treat? Nope. He's like a little baby. Oh yeah, for sure. And there are other creepy kids. There's other creepy kids in that. Yeah. Jesus fucking Christ. I know. Oh shit. So like, okay, can I ask a question? Are there sequels on this list? I'll allow that question. Thank you. No. Okay. There are not so you can't run down the children of the corn franget. No, there are no more children of the corn. Okay. Okay. So that wasn't my guess. So I guess I will guess the changeling. No, I don't even think you see the kid that pet cemetery. Ah, fuck. Yes. Good call. Fire starter. No. Damn it. That's actually kind of surprising. Is she creepy? I mean, she's scary. She's letting shit on fire. George C. Scott with a plan of Native American has to go put her down. Not a good moment in cinematic history. Is Benjamin Button on the list? No, Benjamin Button is not on the list. Were there kids in freaks? Is freaks a guess? Yes. No. Fuck. I was just talking about freaks yesterday. Comes up a lot in our line of work. The Adams family. Good guess, but no. I'm not talking about the Twilight Zone movie. No. I'm just taking a stab. I know. Yeah. Okay. Let me think. Creepy kids. Creepy kids. Because here's the thing is I'm trying to think if, because creepy is different from villainous. Yeah. So. But I mean, that's why I'm surprised Poltergeist wasn't out there. Right. Because like the shit she says is creepy. It's creepy. Yes. It's very creepy. The orphanage. No. It's not on the orphan. Orphan is on the. She's not a kid. She's not a kid. You gotta think about the people doing it. That's bullshit. I'll take the point though. I got another one. Literally that was the first thing I said was like, but I won't. She's not a kid. Okay. Orphanage though definitely should be on there. Orphanage should be on there. Orphanage should be on there. Hmm. Okay. I just want to think like, is it cheating to like look around the room and stuff? I feel like we shouldn't be able to look at the cassette tape stand. Halloween, young Michael Myers. No. Yeah. I'm wondering how prominent the kid has to be because I feel like in everything we've named they're like the basis of the movie. The thing. Yeah. So here's my guess. Not a living dead. No. Creepy zombie kid. Nope. And yeah, is this going to be a thing where are they like I was saying earlier, are they a villain kid or are they just a kid that the general audience is like, ugh. It's no six senses on there. Yeah. He's not a villain. Yeah. If you want hints, you have to agree. I know. Yeah, I know. We've got, we've got nine. We're both just really stubborn. Yeah. At least want to get to 10 before we start fucking asking for hints. We're both just really stubborn. Like what kind of. Oh, I got one, but again, I'm not confident in it. Yeah. I mean, confidence has been leveled and bloody birthday should be on there. They're very creepy kids. They're very prominent. Like this, this wouldn't make sense to me about child's play. No, I also have that thought. Yeah. Uh, it left my head. God damn it. No. Fuck. Oh, hit me up with the jump rope girls from nightmare on elm street. No. Okay. This is a very out there answer. And this is my guess for the non horror movie big. No, but that's a good guess. Because that's creepy. That is an interesting guess. He's my guest for the non horror movie. Toy Story. Toy Story is the answer. Toy Story is. Yes. Icon. Wow. Okay. Correct. That's amazing. Yes. Yes. 100%. 100%. And to that point, I'm shocked to that finding Nemo isn't on here because. That was my. Oh, sure. Sure. Little girl. Yeah. Yeah. Sid way creepier. Sid is much creepier. Yes. Although to be fair, it is funny thinking how many of us were Sid as kids. Like we all had Barbie dolls. We tortured and. He was very creative. Yeah. That's a thing. Yeah. Like I think he should have had his creativity fostered something productive. Absolutely. I think one, I think is it in two or three, we see him as a garbage man. Oh, that's right. That's a high paint. That's a lucrative job. Yeah. Important job. But I do wish he got into like the film industry. Yeah. Like an artistic. Yeah. But he's in like a union, you know. Sure. Yeah. And but he's finding lots of parts. That's true. Yeah. We don't know his side hustle. He's like making fucking mad God in his garage. Yeah. With these, he has an Etsy shop. Exactly. Yeah. He's fine. He found his bliss. Yeah. Okay. That's his shop. It's bliss. There you go. Oh man. That was such a good. It got me tied up. So thankfully, yeah. 10 now that we've. Oh, the baby in train spotting that crawls on the ceiling. No, good guess. Good guess. Good guess. Good guess. Yeah. The baby's. Oh, brain dead slash dead alive. Dead alive. No. Bullshit. See, this list is kind of bullshit. I saw that as soon as bloody burglars. Did we get, we didn't guess Rosemary's baby, right? Rosemary's baby. Is that a guess? Yes. No. I mean, you only hear it at the very end. Yeah. Spoiler. Any other kids run kids. Kids. Like a knife. Kid. Um, a kid. Oh, uh, let's go with the, uh, near dark. No. What's that movie we need to talk about Kevin or whatever. Yes. Yeah. Is that the thriller? I think that is the thriller. Yes. I don't really know what that is. That's who is it? Is that a fuck who's in that? Where it's the mom realizing her kid. Oh, wait, is that, wait, wait, maybe that's not the thriller. Cause my guess is the good son. No. What? What? What? He's shooting cats, dude. Yeah. Oh, that's bonk. Good son is like, all right. Is McCauley caulking? Just feel like if you were around in the early nineties, you fucking knew that. Well, demon child. I've never seen that movie. I don't think I have either, but I knew, but you know what it is, right? Vaguely. But you know, he's like a evil kid, right? With a brother. I guess. You know what it is, right? Cressel vaguely. All right. Maybe my mom and my family was just uniquely interested in the good son. Super good son piled. Oh God. Okay. We're at 11. I would do a hint. I would do a hint too to make sure we get to the rest. Yeah. All right. Let's do a hint. Okay. The first hint that Ben provided is that these movies are released between 1956 and 2025. Great. Thank you, Ben. Thanks. Well, I guess not. 56 though. Oh, invasion of the body snatchers. No. Did we guess the 56 one already? No, there's no way we did. We did not. 56. Haunting of Hill House. No, the haunting. No, it is Chelsea you get to in a row now. Oh, what happened to Free For All after that? Oh, no, it is Free For All. You're right. Yeah, it's Free For All. It's a Free For All until we get one. 56. 56. Weird year for a horror movie. Like what the fuck's going on in the 50s? It's going to be like a sci-fi or something. Yeah. They, them. Nope. I feel like it's going to be something I haven't seen. Like I came from outer space or something. Unless the 56 is like the OG village of the dam because maybe the one I'm thinking of is the remake. Okay, I just had crazy deja vu. I like that. It's not an invasion of the body snatchers. It is not. The day the Earth stood still. I'm just hoping out titles now. As far as I am aware, this is not a sci-fi movie. It's not. Okay. And just be like 50. The Black Cat. No. Do you think it's a horror movie? From the title, I believe it is a horror movie or at least it's horror. Oh boy. What a blind spot I'm learning. Like I know my universal monsters and then I know psycho onward but holy shit. Is this something you've seen, Gressel? No. Do you think we've seen this? Possibly. Possibly. I don't know about 56. Dude, how's the year my mom was born? The next oldest movie. Is it Talking Tina? That's a doll. Yeah, I know. Isn't that a TV episode of the Twilight Zone? Yes. I know. All I can think of are kids from the Twilight Zone. Like the kid who sends you to the cornfield. Oh. What a horror movie. The next oldest movie is 77. That we haven't guessed? Yes. Carrie? No. You had teens count as kids? That's an interesting question. That is an interesting question. From this list, I don't know how old a couple of these kids- Maybe like a 13-year-old would be like a 17-year-old would? Yeah, I would probably say that would be a safe assumption. Wonder where that line is drawn though. That's a tough one. That's real borderline. 77. 77 is the next oldest movie. It's not the Omen. That's a 70s movie. You got the Omen. Yeah. There are two remaining movies from the 70s, both late 70s. And then you have the 56 and then everything else is 2010 plus. Whoa. That's tough. Okay. Damn. What are these old ones? 70s. Is it? It's alive? No. Oh, that'd be good. That'd be- that'd be good. Yeah. That's definitely should be on there. You said 2010s or later? Salem's Lot. Oh, no, not Salem's Lot. Lost Boys. No. No, no, that wouldn't fit in that range. Nope. There are no movies left from the 80s or 90s or aughts. Wow. What are these? 2010s? The Conjuring? No. The Conjuring's using that? No. Annabelle. Nope. There is one movie left from the 2020s. It is not Annabelle. Well, yeah. Yeah, Annabelle. Abigail. Oh, that's what I was thinking was Abigail, but it's not Abigail. Fuck. How- what is this list? What is this list indeed? The Babadook? No. That kid? Is he creepy or just- I don't know if he's creepy. The Progeny. No. The other Ben provided clue. Yeah, sure. The other is half of the list has never been covered on the Dead Meat Channel. Oof. Damn. Big oof. That's a specifying channel because one of the movies was covered on Patreon and it is one of the movies that you have not yet gotten. I wonder in what capacity. I know it could be in a commentary track or like those reviews I used to do. That could be anything. Mm-hmm. 2010s seems to be the bulk of what we're missing here. You know what? I lied, there is one from the 2000s and it is the one that was covered on Patreon. Oh man. Can we just ask yes or no questions now? Yes, I think so. Okay. Is the one from 56, is the kid like a creature? I don't- I don't know. Okay. Yeah. I just- it just is gonna drive me crazy. Of the remaining movies has one and only one been covered in some way on Dead Meat. Do you think he'll know that often? I don't know that. Oh. I know for a fact that two have- I know for a fact that at least two movies have been covered on Dead Meat. Okay. Three movies. Okay. Have these three movies been covered on the podcast? I know that they have been covered on Kill Counts. Whoa. Are those three movies, are the kids prominent? Like would you know from looking at the title? Oh yeah, it's got creepy. From two of these I know for sure that the kids are prominent. I'm not sure about the third one. I haven't seen it. Prominent creepy kids covered on the Kill Count and it's not Bloody Birthday. Oh, sinister. No, not sinister. What? What? Are any of the movies left based on a Stephen King property? I don't believe so. Okay. God. Like at what point do we give up? I'm pretty close to there because we got three other lives. Do you agree to give up? Yeah, both of us might just have to agree to it. Okay. And we're going to be pissed at ourselves when we learn. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, just because we want to get to the other ones. Sure. We're giving up. Okay. The movies that you did not get, I'll start at the bottom of the list just for fun. Okay. So in 20, you did not get Bring Her Back from 2025. Creepy. I mean, yeah. Creepy. I guess. Okay. From 2014, the only foreign language movie on the list, Good Night Mommy. Oh, yeah. We watched that around when it came out. We did. Yeah. From 2015 featured in the Kill Count, The Witch. Oh, the little twins, those little fuckers. Yeah. Playing around that goat. The 1956 one that you did not get is The Bad Seed. Oh, yeah. That's the other evil kid one. Yeah. Okay. From 2008, Let the Right One In. Yeah. That's. I mean, they're vampires, but I guess they're kids. Orphan Counts. Yeah. A Kill Count that I wasn't sure how prominent the kids were featured is us. Really? The tethered versions of the kids? Yeah. I just would never have. No, I would never would have thought that. But like both the kids, I think Pluto and they're like that real creepy. Yeah. Yeah. From 77, Eraserhead. Oh, okay. Sure. The baby. Oh, okay. From 79, The Brood. Oh, Cronenberg. Ah. Yeah. Okay. And from 2018 also featured in the Kill Count, Hereditary. She's not creepy. She's not creepy. I mean, there's definitely, it's kind of like the Haley Jollosman where it's like. I think that's ableist. There's. Damn, that's hard. Yeah. I don't feel too bad. No, I don't either. Given what we missed. Yeah. This week's episode is sponsored by Lee Cronen's The Mummy. Speaking of creepy kids, there's an absolutely terrifying one in this movie. While on site in Egypt, the young daughter of a journalist disappears without a trace. Eight years later, the family is shocked when she has returned to them. What should be a happy reunion turns into a nightmare. What happened to Katie? From the unholy trinity of Lee Cronen, James Wan, and Jason Blum, Lee Cronen's The Mummy is only in theaters in IMAX April 17th. From producers James Wan and Blum House, comes a terrifying new vision of the iconic legend. Lee Cronen's The Mummy, Rated R. You had six points. I have five. Okay. Okay. List two. Okay, list two. I'm excited to move on to something else. Yeah, yeah. I think this one will go quicker. Okay. Because this one is best horror sequels. Ooh boy. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do we determine the best first scene? Yeah, face off here again. Okay. Okay. I'm shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Ah. Okay. My rock, beat or scissors. Okay. Best horror sequels? Best horror sequels. See, oh man, I hope that my tastes align with these people. Can I ask a, I will ask a clarifying question and you will determine if you want the answer. Okay, sure. Is it only part twos or is it down the line? That's fair. You also want to know? There are further sequels down the line on the switch. I don't know if it was strictly like a sequel as in like the first. Yeah, it has to be. No, there are further down. Okay. Yes. I'm worried I'm not going to know, like I'm just not going to be able to think of a lot of these. I'm going to start with, I guess, Child's Play 2. It's very good and it should be on this list and if it's not, this list is wrong. Child's Play 2 is not on this list. Then what are we doing, folks? Dream Warriors. That was my other one that I was going to start with. Fuck. That's Nightmare on Elm Street. Which number? Three. Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is on this list. Yes. Okay. There's at least some calibration. I was going to say if that wasn't on there, I'd be like, what? Okay, what are we doing with this? Yeah. Oh, but still. Still, this is hard. Child's Play 2 not being on there is fucked. God, people like Scream 2. Should I say that? Scream 2. Scream 2 is on the list. It's not the best Scream 2. Dawn of the Dead. Dawn of the Dead is on the list. Yes, well, it should be. See, had Child's Play 2 been on there, I would have been more comfortable saying Psycho 2, which is a good one. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I would have been more comfortable saying Psycho 2, which is a very good movie. But now I don't trust these Philistines. Are they all horror sequels? These are all explicitly horror sequels. Psycho 2. Psycho 2 is on the list. Great. Wow, amazing. Smile 2. On the list. Fuck yeah. Okay. Correct. Okay. Oh, this list was from five months ago. Thank you. Yes. Yeah, good call. What are we? What are we? Friday the 13th, the final chapter or Friday the 13th part four, but it should just be the final chapter. No. Bride of Frankenstein on the list. Very good. Bride of Chuckie. No. Wait, I forget if I said this already. Saw X. No. That's bullshit. It is. Friday the 13th part six. Jason lives. No. That's crazy. That's out of any of them that should be on there. Yeah, that one's like Halloween three season of the rich is on the list. Oh, no. Where would I can't calibrate? I can't calibrate here. Shit. That's just this three is on the list. Okay. Thank you. Correct. It's so funny when the third movie is randomly a banger. Especially when the second one's bad. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta think. I feel like I had some and they slipped away. That'll happen. Yeah. Oh, Evil Dead 2. Evil Dead 2 is on the list. Good one. This is a tough series to pick one from. I'm going to go with what I think people like. Not what I think is the best one. Final Destination 3. No. Godzilla minus one. No, but good guess. Like I'm wondering if there's even a Friday on here. Uh, uh, uh, Friday versus Jason. No. Pet Sematary 2. I think it's better than the first one. Hellraiser 2. Yes. Hellraiser 2 is on there. Yes. It is a good movie. Oh, no. I'm like trying to think of shit and all my brain can think of is like Abbot and Costello. That's because the VHS is on the back there. I know it's because I know it's right behind me. Um, 28 years later. Yes, on the list. Oh, years later. Yes. Years later. Years later. 28 years later from 2025. I was worried about the first second. Yes. It should be on this list. Hello, Mary Lou prom night to know. Should be. Yeah, I should be on there. And well, Halloween 3 was on there. Because it's awesome. Gullies go to college. No. Halloween 2018. No. Okay. Uh, can I ask a question? Is it, are there any duplicates of franchises? Are you cool with knowing that answer? Yeah. No, like Requels or no, no, I mean, yes. There are duplicates of franchises. Okay. Okay. Yes. There are more of. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Say no more. Say less. Uh, um, stop. I'm just trying to think of which other ones from big franchises that haven't been guessed that I actually think are good. I got one. Jason X. No. Wes Craven's new nightmare. Fuck. Damn it. Yeah. Yeah. The Heather trilogy. Scary movie too. No. Scream 5, aka Scream from 2022. No. It's not my favorite, but Scream 4. Scream 4 is on the list. No. Really, y'all? Yeah. Come on. That movie looks weird. It's weird and gauzy. Someone dropped the camera in Vaseline. But that Jill's motives were very crushant. The killer motives are good. I can't get further rest of it. No, no, no. You just got on. Oh, sorry. It's on me now. But I was really weighing in my head Scream 5 or Scream 4. I went with the egotistical choice. The dead meat bump couldn't get us on there. So we're at 13 of the 20 here. Molly digs a hole to China. All right. Let me think about this a little bit longer. How about the Conjuring 2? Yes, on the list. Nice. Yeah. We all love the, well, fuck what's his name? The crooked man? Yeah, the crooked man. Day is a dead. Yes. No. Good. I'm not even mad because it deserves it so much. Yeah. We're at 15 out of 20 here. Okay. It's no way Psycho 3. No. Okay. Devil's Rejects? No. Right? Good try. Yeah. Good try with that. Yeah. I'm trying to think of like movies. Jaws 2? Nope. Okay. That should be. That would be crazy. It's not, it's fine. It's not as good as the movies that are on this list still. Well, there's one. There's a couple I haven't seen, I guess. Jurassic Park 2? No. No, people don't appreciate that. Like they should for real. There's, we still haven't landed on a Friday if there's even one on here. I'm assuming reboots and remakes are not part of this list. No. Really? No Chucky Rep? Like three can't be on there and I feel like curse and cult aren't well known enough and seed wouldn't be. Oh, I haven't really explored. Final Destination 5. Nope. I don't know if it would be counted as a horror movie for this list but shock treatment. No. Saw 2. No. Saw 6. No. I don't think Saw is going to be on this list. Saw 6 should be on this list. It's, Saw 6 should absolutely be on this list. Saw 3. Slowest motherfucking Jeff. No. The Ring 2. No. It's not. Insidious 2. No. Annabelle 2. No. Okay. Annabelle 3. No. That's the fun one. Yeah. Annabelle comes home. One of those should be. You still have five remaining. Yeah. Mm-hmm. About to be four. Probably not though. Do you want a hint? Nope. No hints. Not yet. James is chomping at the bed. I'll do it after my next guess. I don't know. All I can think of is like Halloween H2O. No. Ouija 2. No. Ah. I'm going to hint. Oh, that's a good guess though. Thanks. Do you want hints? Yeah, sure. Why not? Hint us up. Okay. No. No. No. No. No. No. Okay. There is, I already said that of the five remaining movies I have seen three for what it's worth. Okay. But. Dr. Sleep. Yes. Fuck. Fuck. That is one of the ones I've seen. Wait, are you finishing the clue? Yeah, you got it. Yeah. A new clue is there is still one movie from a franchise you have already named and it is the last remaining repeat franchise. Okay. Good call. Scream 3. No. Scream 2. They don't appreciate it. No. Nightmare 4. No. Dream Master. No. How are they going to beat the other nightmares? Child's play 3? No. Halloween Resurrection. No. I can't out of here with that. Halloween 4, people like that one. No. Leprechaun in the hood. No. Leprechaun back to the hood. Leprechaun in space. Leprechaun 3. No. Ah. Halloween 2. No. No. Ah. There was not a Final Destination movie. No, but that's just another guess. Well, sure. And it should be on there. It's the best Final Destination. Yeah. Oh, another repeat. Man. Scream 6? Nope. That'd be random, I feel. Yeah. Like if the other ones are on there. Pearl. Yes. Maxine. That's not going to be on there. No. Down to 3. Do you know these movies? Oh, yes. I do. Of the three, I have not seen one of them, but I'm aware, very aware of it. And then. Terrifier 2. No. Terrifier 3. No. What? Did we ask for a year range or no? I can give you a year range now. I'll give you the three remaining years. How about that? Okay, let's do that. If you both agree to it. Yes. Those are the rules. Okay. The three remaining years are 86, 86, and 92. Oof. Army of Darkness. Oof. Is the remaining franchise one. Oh, okay. Okay. And then 86, 86. 86, 86. 86. How in five? No. No. No, because that we got the remaining. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. So then what the fuck is this? Are they counting Return of the Living Dead? No. Okay. Some consider it a sequel tonight. Good job with Pearl. 86. So we have two left. They're both from 86. Both from 86. Texas Chainsaw 2. Texas Chainsaw 2 is one of them. That is the one that I have not seen. Oh, it's a good one. Oh my God, I can't believe neither of us thought of that. Yeah. Because that's like one of the best Horsey quotes. Wow. People were probably screaming at us. 86 is a weird time because like slashers are kind of on their down, if not dead by this point. Without 86? Yeah. Because like that's taken the piss out of Horsey. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, I mean. 86 is the remaining year. Oh wait, what was Texas Chainsaw? 86. So that was the, oh okay. So that was the, oh okay. So that was the, oh okay. So 86 is in a 92 which was Army of Darkness. Would you like any kind of hint and narrow this down? Sure. This is a sequel to a horror movie that may not be considered horror. Predator 2. Explosively. No. Oh, that's a good guess. Terminator 2? Ah, no, but you're in the ballpark. No, that was 90s. Yeah. Yeah, T2. T2, is he at 92? 91? I think Predator 2 was also 90s. Aliens. Ah, aliens it is. Yes. Yes. Alien with the dollar sign. You spanked me on that round. Jesus. You had 12, I had eight. Damn. Yeah. Alright, list three. Alright, this one has notes for players to start. Oh God. So this was published three years ago. Ooh. Okay. There was a guide for list makers. It might pass from person to person, smile at you in a mirror, or leave footprints in the snow, but it cannot be largely visible for most of the film. The list is best unseen villains in horror. Oh. Repeat those criteria, please. It might pass from person to person, smile at you in a mirror, or leave footprints in the snow, but it cannot be largely visible for most of the film. Okay, got it. Alright, I'm shoot. Generally, haven't included this because most are self-explanatory, kind of give things away, but feel it's worth emphasizing here that this does mean that they can be seen at some point in the movie and still qualify. Okay. Got it. And this was, this list was made three years ago. This year, this was made three years ago. One of these movies isn't horror according to letterboxes genre genres. Okay. On shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Okay. The Invisible Man, the 1930, I forget what year, the old one. The 1933 Invisible Man is on the list. It follows. It follows is on the list. That's because it has to be the Blair Witch Project. Yes. Smile. Smile is not on the list. It's literally in the description. It'll smile at you in a mirror. Wow. From person to person, it follows. Smile is not on the list. That's about the invisible man, but the new one. Yes. Wow. Come on. There is a note for Gressel. Be aware that this features both versions of the invisible man, so you'll need to clarify which one you're guessing. Wow. Okay. Fine. It's on me. Poltergeist. No. It's literally a ghost that you don't see. I was thinking that too. Jaws. Jaws, yes. Okay. Okay. I'm glad you're on this list, Wavelain. Fuck. Alien. Alien is on the list. Oh, because you don't see it that much. This list is dumb. I don't like this one. Saw. He's laying there the whole time. Yeah, but you're not really looking at him. Like Saw 1? Yeah. You're not really. He's there the whole time. But you're not. He's not doing this. He's in the flashbacks. He's sketching in his hospital room. That's true. Yeah. Friday the 13th, the original. No. That's a good one. I feel like that was a pretty decent guess, but fuck me, I guess. I'm worried this is too much of a deep pull for this kind of list, but the entity. I damn it. That's such a good guess. No. Wavelain. Noobs. Entity is a great one, hon. The haunting. Yes. I'm just trying to think of what smile at you in a mirror is referring to if it's not smile. It's not. Maybe smile didn't make the aggregate. Yeah. Eventually Leviticus can wind up on this list. Yeah. Mr. LeBale from Ready or Not. No. He's not really the villain. The Babadook. No. Skin and drink. No. Would that have been too recent? I don't know. I don't think so. That was a good one. Good guess. Black Christmas. No. Insidious. No. You might have guessed that already. I think we guessed it first. You just guessed it on every list. The Exorcist. The Exorcist. I think you guessed that one already. No, not this list. That is not on this list. It should be though. Pazuzu. Yeah. Poulter guy's not being honest. Yeah. I mean, I guess you see the... I don't know. You see Jaws at the end. Yeah, I guess. That's true. The Phantom of the Opera. No. Not really a villain, but Bride of Frankenstein. No. I don't know it because technically you don't really see what it looks like. Nope. Truth or dare. Nope. That was a good guess though. Yeah, it's on that thing back there. Let's see. Is there anything else? Paranormal activity. Oh, no. I'm down for hints at this point. I need a hint. Okay, hints. We're only at seven here. Yeah, it's not good. I'll do year hints. You've got two movies from the 40s. Oh. Mr. Sardonicus. Cat People. Cat People is one of them. Yes. Wolfman? No. The other movie from the 40s, I wouldn't have called this a horror movie. Oh, but you know it. I know this and I've seen it. Sunset Boulevard. No. You see her all over the damn place. I did watch this movie for a class in college though. Oh. We got two from the 80s, three, four from the- The Thing. The Thing is one of them. Oh. Again, I looked over and there, I'm sorry. There's a VHS. The Thing from another world, the original The Thing. No. Got any non-year hints? There are a couple movies that have already been named in other categories. The Omen? No. One of these I'm not sure if I agree with. I don't agree with a lot of these. Yeah, I mean that's fair. The Ring? No. Okay. The Chainsaw Mask around there? No. That would be crazy. That'd be weird. But the one that I'm thinking of isn't- Is Scream? No. Okay. Yeah, I feel like I'm just going to start asking like, like, noitberatomes. Invasion of the Body Snatchers. No. Okay. I don't know, I'm ready to call it on this one. Yeah, this is a tough one. Because we've only got nine. What's the 40s one? Rebecca. Oh. Hitchcock? Yeah. Hitchcock, which I don't know. It's suspense, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Gothic, I suppose. Final destination. Oh, God damn it. That's what I see. I felt like you were kind of circling. Yeah. That's embarrassing. Yeah. Evil Dead 2. Huh. Oh. Which I don't- you know, that's- You see a lot of dead eyes. I'm satisfied. Right, yeah. I guess like the actual spirit possessing them all, that's drawn a very fine line. Yeah. The one that I really don't agree with is the shining. That- The overlooking. Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, that's a weird one too. Yeah. I guess it depends on what your theory is for the- What is- What's going on? Yeah. Uh-huh. Other ones that were on previous lists, Rosemary's Baby. Oh. And you had mentioned how you don't see it until the end. You know, early on when we first started this, I thought of Rosemary's Baby, but I was like, I see that old couple throughout the whole movie. Mm-hmm. But I guess the actual baby- The actual baby. That's not until the very end. And like the devil. And the devil. You see him in that one scene. Mm-hmm. That's terrifying. Yeah, it is. The witch. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, she's in like two scenes. You barely see. Mashing that baby up. Yeah. Uh, Hereditary. Yeah. Okay. The mist. You see the mist the whole fucking time. I guess they mean the monsters in the mist, but like even then you see a bunch of attack- That one's- I almost said the mist and I thought, no, that's dumb. Yeah, that was wack. Because you see it- You see the mist and you see the monsters. Yeah. There's like waves of attacks from them. The mist is outside the front of the grocery store. That's true. It comes at night. I don't know. Oh. Remember when that came out? Yes. That one caused a stir because that was one of those marketing things where it's like the scariest movie and then it's not- Like it's kind of scary. It was more of like a drama. It's like a slow. I liked it. I only saw the one time. It was fine. Yeah. Joe Edgerton. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure I completely agree with this one. Nope. I feel like you see quite a bit of Jean Jacket. Jean Jacket. Yeah, especially the third act. Yeah, this list was all over the place. Yeah. And then the last one I really think is strange, the lighthouse. What? Like, yeah, that one I really don't- There's not like a- There's not a monster. No, it's just- There's not even a spirit or an entity. That's going crazy. Yeah, like what is the villain is? Isolation? Yeah. Like what? I don't know that one. I don't know about that one. That's a tough list. That's a tough list and I don't think its parameters are well-defined enough as far as what it's included. You need to read you on that list that smile and smile too can be on it. Yeah. And kick some of these other weird choices off. The fact that you have like Jaws and the lighthouse. Yeah. Those do not match. The criteria whatsoever in the same way. Okay, so the last list, which I feel like we should, you know, don't think too hard on because this one's a change. Oh no. Great. Notes for players to start. It was published two years ago. Seven of the movies are not horror movies. Two of those seven are thrillers. But that means there are five movies that are not horror or thrillers. Okay. The category is. Four scouts. The category is weirdest women in film. And remember, we are going for the name of the movie, not the name of the woman, although sometimes that may be one in the same. On shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Ha. Cut that paper up. How many years ago? Two years ago. Pearl. Pearl is on the list. Fatal attraction. Good guess, not on the list. This list is bullshit then. Glineclothes. Sunset Boulevard. Is on the list. I love that. I didn't roll your as a joke. Are you kidding? I'm sorry. Boiling the bunny lady and not. I agree with you. Okay. I agree with you. Okay. Misery. Misery is on the list. Yes. Okay. That would have been. I would have gotten up and left. I would have ended the podcast. Oh, whatever happened to baby Jane. That's a good guess. No, not on the list. Yeah, this list is kind of some bullshit. I just, what is the weirdest, very. Like psychotic. Right. Or just. Like Miss Kooky, like Miss Lippy. Yeah, Billy man. Mrs. Trunchbull from Matilda. No. Orphan. No. Osami from audition. Yes. Oh, that's a good one, hon. That is a good one. Hello, Mary Lou prom night. No. Samara from the ring. No. Weird women. Weird, wacky. Weird women. Weird women. And I feel like it's probably looking for women who are singular and not part of a group. Because like house of a thousand corpses or devil's regi. She's fucking weird, but I feel like that wouldn't really qualify. Carrie. Yes. Oh, okay. The girl from hereditary. No. Okay. Can I ask a question? Women. Are these all adults? Yeah, I'm curious too. Besides Carrie. No, there are at least two. There's a couple I'm not familiar with, but there are at least two that are teenagers. Okay, but there's no children on this list. Not as far as I'm aware, but again, there's a couple I don't know. Okay. Uh, fuck. Hold on. I got it. I'm just thinking of Mary Catherine Gallagher. Yeah. No. She's not on there? No. Superstar. No. She should be. She absolutely should be. For sure. Oh my God, that just totally threw me. I love Fisher and wedding crash. No. Or like, or the mom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jane Seymour. Yes, Jane Seymour. Dude, I bet if I watched Wedding Crashers now, I'd be more into her than on the pressure. The mom. I will find you. I might be too recent for this list, but the substance. No. It's not even really weird. Just sad. This is hard. Yeah. You want to break it open with some clues? Yeah. Break it open. There are six foreign language movies. You got one of them. Let the right one in. No. She's a weird little girl. That's a good guess. No, no girls as far as I'm aware. She's a vampire. She's probably old. Fair. Amelie. Amelie is on list. Oh, she is. Yeah. Amelie. Oh, just be Amelie. Garden State. No, but good guess. Okay, so so weird is extremely broad. Extremely broad. There's one of these foreign language ones. I'm like, I wouldn't make sense, but perfect blue. No. Okay. One of these foreign language ones. You're like, why is it on this list? Yeah, it's I mean, it's a movie I really love, but like water for chocolate. No. Why can't you think of any foreign language movies? Two of the foreign language movies are by the same director. The daughter from old boy. Well, that's a good guess, but that's not on here. Parasite. No, I can't remember if the daughter is actually weirder if the situation is just weird. The situation is very, very weird. It's been a long time since I've seen it. Any more hints? The two foreign language movies that are by the same director are French. Oh, pretty. Sorry, I was trying to speak French. Not one of those, but Rosemary's baby. Your old lady is not on the list. Oh, that lady, the fucking neighbor should definitely be on that list. I mean, but if baby Jane's not, then throw it all out the window. Yeah. The fact that she's on here is pretty wild. I can't think of any French. Give us some more hints besides these French ones. One of these, at least one of these, I guess, is based on a book. Girl interrupted. Yes. Really? Yep. What is the criteria? That is not that. Mental illness? That is not the book that I was thinking of. Requiem for a dream, the mom. No, but that would have been a good one, too. If we're just naming women who have problems. Yeah, there's a few of these that are just women. That's one. Yep. Oh, fuck. Just say movies with women. Okay, yeah. For a dollar name a woman. For a dollar name a woman. Anne Hathaway and Les Mis. No. God, I hate that movie. I just think I'm women with problems. So Black Swan was one of the thrillers. Ma. No. Bullshit. This list sucks. I would just give you a point if you weren't already fucking destroying me. Splash. What? No. Mommy dearest. No. Come on. No more wire hangers, guys. And that is based on a book. Oh, that's true. Based on real stuff, but is based on her daughter's book. The Wicked Witch of the West. No. The Wizard of Oz, which is the name of the movie. Fuck. That'd be such a shitty steal. Sally Bulls and Cabaret. No. Weird women, Jennifer's body. Yes. Really? Okay, sure. I don't know. I don't know what the qualifying. Who's weird in that? I guess she is because she's. She's like the cool chick. Right. She's the opposite of so is needy the weird one. Yeah, that's why I'm like, I don't. Okay, whatever. Oh, Ginger snaps. No. Oh, but Jennifer's body. Okay. They're the same movie. Uh, Practicatifonies. No. She's kind of quirky. Yeah. Oh, Zoe Deschanel and anything. No. Yeah. How's she doing? She all right. She's married to a property brother, right? That's true. Yeah. Probably gets nice renovations or it's. They have a very nice architectural digest video with their New York part. What's she been in though? I think she has made a lot of money from like investments and stuff and doesn't really need to work much. You don't need to, but I figure you might want to do it for the game. She has kids. I think maybe she did the mother thing. Yeah. Other things legit. Need moms. We just watched 500 days of summer recently and she's not weird in that. She's the normal one. Really? The interesting thing. I mean, I was Joseph Gordon Levitt who's the weird one. He's the villain. Yeah. I thought that was. It's funny because I feel like when I feel like when girls saw that, we all instantly understood that. Weird women, women with problems. Girl interruption. In movies. One flew over the cuckoo's nest. Nurse Ratchet. Pretty weird. Pretty weird, right? No. This would be weird, but precious. Nope. Okay. I don't know. I'm just thinking of women with problems because that's apparently the only qualifying anything to this list. There. Yeah. What's more hints? There's a movie on this list where the weirdest character in the movie is very, very much not a woman, but the master of disguise. No. The weirdest character in this movie interacts with a quirky teen girl. With a quirky teen girl. Quirky might be misleading. It's not Leon the professional. No. He's not like weird. I mean, he's weird because he's maybe a pedophile. It'd be crazy if that was the one of the French movies. Yeah. We got a fucking French movie. We got some reanimous friends. What are the French movies from? One of the French movies is from 2021 and one of the French movies is from 2016. Recent French movies? I just wonder if we've seen either of these. Do we know these? I think you would know of them at least. I don't know, man. I know of them. You want a couple directors? Yeah. Yeah, fuck it. Fuck it. Fincher. Oh, Gone Girl. Gone Girl. Oh. David Lynch. What about Fight Club? Oh, Blue Velvet. Nope. Oh, Mahalo Drive. Yes. Oh, nice. You've got a Tim Burton. Oh, Wednesday. No, Beal Geese. Yes. She's weird. Lydia. That was the one I was talking about earlier. Is there more Tim Burton? There's a lot of weird chicks. No, not hackers. Nope. Mean Girls. No. Her friend. Lizzie Catlin. Oh, yeah. I forget that. Janice. That's where she started. Jisar and Drag. Drag is a lot of fun. Very good. Very good. The DeVito genes are strong. Lucy DeVito looks a lot like both her parents. She does. Yeah. I think these last few are going to be a struggle. A struggle. I don't think I can ever possibly win, so I'm good. Give it up. I mean, we got up to 12. The French movies that I was mentioning is Raw and Tate. Oh. Yeah. By the same. Yeah. By the same director. Fuck. Dickhead. Yeah. That's fair. That's on us. That's on us. That's on us. That's on us. Her new movie, Very Devices. It is. I'm curious. I'm excited. It's like T'Tan. The last remaining foreign language film, I'm not familiar with it, Daisies. Not the campaign ads. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. The movie. Not the campaign ad against Goldwater. Yeah, I'm not familiar here. Daisies is, it is Eastern European. Okay. It's Czechoslovakian, isn't it? I saw that movie in college. There's two weirdos running around. That's actually a fun movie. Two teenage girls embark on a series of destructive pranks in which they consume and destroy the world around them. They do. I liked that movie. That was good. Oh, I haven't seen it. From 66. Yeah. The guy who did One Flue, right? Nils Forman? Was it Forman? No, it is Vera Chichlova. Oh, okay. Daisies. Wow. Good poll letterboxed. There is a film from 2002 I'm not familiar with called May. Oh, no. She's fucking weird. She's a real good weirdo. Yeah, she's a true weirdo and belongs on this list. That's Betteis, right, Angela Betteis? That's on us. That's on us. That one's on us. 2019's Saint Maude. That's another, yeah. Grasso, that movie is so fucked up. That's real good. And that's with Gladrile. Gladrile from Amazon's Rains and Power. Mojford Clark. Yeah. Shit. Let's see what. Probably one of the most fucked up movie endings of all time. From 1981, Possession. God damn it, dude. It's the movie that anytime there's a weird woman in movies now, the director's like, watch Possession. Watch Possession. Do this scene. Oh man, we fucked up, dude. Yeah, it's because I'm blaming the previous list for kind of screwing with what to expect from these. But also, Baby Jane, come on. Yeah. From 2013, Jonathan Glazer's Under the Skin. Oh, I haven't seen it. We haven't seen it. But okay. And there's a dumb reason we haven't seen it. And then finally, a movie that I really, really like, Chunking Express. Yeah. The movie, you just rewatched that recently, didn't you? I did. I feel like that was one of the last movies you watched in this house. It was, yeah. I got the criterion for 4K and it's great. California Dreaming. Yep. It's, yeah, I guess she's weird. Yeah. But like, compared to some of the women on that list. Yeah, yeah. The one that throws me is Girl Interrupted. Yeah. Yeah. They have mental issues. Yeah. Like what the weird? Come on. Yeah. Okay. Well, oh man, this is embarrassing. Let's see. It's like. I don't know. I feel like that last round, I kind of whiffed it. It was the only round that I got more than you, but I only got two more than you. But no, no, let's see. You've got, you had 28 points and I had 19. Damn. Yeah, you wrecked me, dude. Out of a possible 80. Oh wait, no, I had 22 actually. Okay. It wasn't, wait. That goes there. I had 24 and you had 20. Okay. Okay. I'm as awful as I thought. Out of a possible 80. Yes. 24 and 28 would be 52. Okay. So you got over half. Okay. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. Yeah. I mean a lot of them were like, you feeding us clues. Yes. Yes, that's true. Fading birding. Well, in fairness, it was completely arbitrary. Yeah. Weird list. But again, love letter box. Yes. That's fun. Thank you, Ben. Thanks, Ben. Thank you, Gressel. Well, this was fun. Let us know how you did and if you were screaming at us for any of these categories in particular. And that's it for this week. Yeah. We don't know what's next. No. I'm just waiting until we can do obsession. Yes. Which we got to cover as soon as it's out. As soon as it's out, yeah. Yeah. Because we saw it again and it's fucking awesome. I know that May has a lot coming out. May is going to be awesome for horror. It's got Hocum, which I really liked. Backrooms, which has a lot of promise. It's got something. Oh, passenger. Oh my God, that trailer scared the shit out of us. It's got something every week for us. It's crazy. May is going to be nuts. But don't sleep on obsession. I would say, I mean, we've only seen Hocum, but like even compared to background, if you see one of them, see obsession, it's hard to imagine a movie beating obsession. Yeah. Obsession is my number one movie period of the year. Any genre. Like it's so fucking good. It fucking rules. Can't wait to talk about it. I don't know what we'll do in the meantime, but we'll figure something out. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Well, until next time, I'm Chelsea. I'm James. And that's Grussell. And this has been the Dead Meat Podcast.