THE HERD - Hour 1 - More drama coming out of Pittsburgh, defending Fernando Mendoza
42 min
•Feb 12, 20262 months agoSummary
Colin Cowherd discusses Pittsburgh Steelers organizational dysfunction following criticism from Ben Roethlisberger and James Harrison, defends quarterback prospect Fernando Mendoza, analyzes the Seattle Seahawks' Super Bowl victory and organizational philosophy of not settling, and critiques NBA parity rules while examining coaching hot seats.
Insights
- Organizational 'brotherhood' culture can mask underlying strategic deficiencies; successful teams prioritize discipline, scheme innovation, and smart football over tradition
- Player criticism of coaching/management often signals legitimate organizational problems; attacking messengers rather than addressing messages indicates defensive leadership
- NFL draft advantage diminishes yearly through schedule parity; teams must capitalize on weak schedules immediately as next year's competition becomes significantly harder
- Quarterback evaluation requires context beyond athleticism; game management, accuracy, and winning track record matter more than physical tools for franchise success
- Coaching evaluation should account for roster quality and market conditions; results-based analysis alone misses coaching quality when inheriting strong vs. weak situations
Trends
NBA shift toward parity-focused rules restricting player movement, reducing dynasty potential and limiting star player agencyNFL emphasis on draft-and-develop model over free agency acquisitions as path to sustained competitivenessCollege quarterback transfer portal creating impatience culture; players leaving after adversity rather than developing resilienceOrganizational rigidity in sports leadership; resistance to external criticism and new information creates competitive disadvantageDefensive-minded coaching gaining prominence in NFL after years of offensive coordinator dominanceImportance of special teams and complete roster depth as differentiator in modern NFL championship teamsQuarterback market valuation shifting from pure athleticism toward game management and accuracy metricsOrganizational culture assessment becoming critical factor in coaching hire/fire decisions beyond win-loss records
Topics
Pittsburgh Steelers organizational culture and coaching criticismNFL quarterback evaluation and prospect analysisCoaching hot seat analysis and evaluation methodologySeattle Seahawks Super Bowl championship strategyNFL draft strategy and roster building philosophyNBA parity rules and player movement restrictionsCollege football quarterback transfer portal trendsDefensive coaching effectiveness in modern NFLSpecial teams impact on championship teamsOrganizational leadership and accountabilityGame management vs. athleticism in quarterback successFree agency vs. draft-and-develop roster constructionSchedule strength and competitive advantagePlayer agency and organizational loyaltyCoaching evaluation frameworks and bias
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People
Colin Cowherd
Host of The Herd podcast; primary commentator analyzing NFL, NBA, and college sports trends
Ben Roethlisberger
Former Pittsburgh Steelers QB criticized by Joey Porter Sr. for breaking 'brotherhood' by publicly criticizing team
James Harrison
Former Steelers defensive end criticized alongside Roethlisberger for public criticism of Mike Tomlin and organization
Mike Tomlin
Pittsburgh Steelers head coach criticized for lack of offensive innovation and defensive performance over 15 years
Joey Porter Sr.
Father of current Steelers player; defended team culture and criticized Roethlisberger and Harrison for public criticism
Fernando Mendoza
Indiana quarterback prospect defended by Cowherd as comparable to Matt Ryan; potential top-5 NFL draft pick
Sam Darnold
Seattle Seahawks QB who won Super Bowl after redemption arc; praised for game management and resilience
Arch Manning
Texas quarterback praised for enduring adversity and sitting out rather than transferring despite struggles
Mike McDonald
Seattle Seahawks head coach credited with upgrading from Geno Smith to Sam Darnold and building championship team
John Schneider
Seattle Seahawks GM credited with building championship roster through draft strategy and not settling
Drew Brees
Former Saints QB discussed for parallels to Sam Darnold's redemption and importance of resilience in quarterback deve...
Matt LaFleur
Green Bay Packers head coach criticized for being placed on coaching hot seat despite strong record and constraints
Aaron Glenn
New York Jets head coach on coaching hot seat due to poor defensive performance and lack of interceptions
Nick Sirianni
Philadelphia Eagles head coach ranked #2 on coaching hot seat; Cowherd argues results-based evaluation misses context
Kevin Stefanski
Former Cleveland Browns coach; market immediately sought him for top jobs after firing, indicating coaching quality
Jokic
Denver Nuggets center identified as #1 best player in NBA; Wembanyama discussed as rising challenger
Victor Wembanyama
San Antonio Spurs center praised as elite defensive player in championship-contending team discussion
Albert Breer
NFL analyst who appeared on show discussing Fernando Mendoza's draft positioning and quarterback consensus
DeMarcus Lawrence
Defensive end who left Dallas Cowboys for Seattle Seahawks, exemplifying 'don't settle' organizational philosophy
Aaron Rodgers
42-year-old QB who joined Steelers and improved offense, demonstrating impact of veteran quarterback experience
Quotes
"Seven definitely broke the brotherhood because like. That's the one I don't understand. The seven dude that did, that we don't talk about, is crazy."
Joey Porter Sr.•Early segment
"If James Harrison and Big Ben don't buy into the brotherhood, his word, maybe the brotherhood's not that important."
Colin Cowherd•Steelers discussion
"I think most teams like the makeup. They like how much he's won. They like the accuracy. But is he physically what, you know, say Drake May was coming out of North Carolina, or Jaden Daniels was coming out of LSU, or Caleb Williams was coming out of USC. He's not that."
Colin Cowherd (discussing Fernando Mendoza)•Quarterback analysis
"I've talked a lot this last week about belief. A lot of people, you know, didn't believe in me, but it didn't matter because the ones that are close believed in me."
Sam Darnold•Super Bowl parade
"Don't copy their identity. Copy their mindset, which is don't settle."
Colin Cowherd (on Seahawks philosophy)•Seahawks analysis
Full Transcript
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Find your local station for the herd at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go on a Thursday. A lot more stuff to talk about than I thought we'd have to talk about, but all sorts of things happening. The combustibility rating, the combustibility factor in Pittsburgh. We got a controversy with the Steelers. So nice to have you in today. So I can argue over the last, you know, 15, 20 years, the greatest Pittsburgh Steeler is Big Ben. Roethlisberger and James Harrison's on a short list of the second best player. Great players. Well, they have podcasts and they've gone on those podcasts over the last year or two and been critical of Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. And by the way, their message is pretty smart. Their message to me was spot on. But according to Joey Porter Sr., whose son plays for the Steelers, So, you know, he gets very emotional. Joey Porter Sr. says Big Ben, who he calls number seven, and James Harrison broke the brotherhood. He used his brotherhood in the article I'm reading like seven times. So just remember that word. Here is Joey Porter Sr. mad at James Harrison and number seven Big Ben. Seven definitely broke the brotherhood because like. That's the one I don't understand. The seven dude that did, that we don't talk about, is crazy. He should never grab a microphone and really talk still a business. Because if we talk still a business, his ass is foul of all foul. He's not a good teammate. Won a Super Bowl with him, but the person, he's just not a good teammate. Like, he knows that. Anybody in the Steeler building knows that. But we protected him. Well, if James Harrison and Big Ben don't buy into the brotherhood, his word, maybe the brotherhood's not that important. I also know Big Ben and James Harrison hit. When you start attacking the messengers and not the message, they're on to something. That brotherhood couldn't beat Blake Bortles at home in the playoffs or Baker Mayfield. That brotherhood in the last 11 games against playoff teams, 1-10, averaging 15 points, giving up 28. The Steelers' culture forever under Tomlin was talent and toughness. I like those qualities. And I guess brotherhood. But with the Chiefs and the Seahawks and McVay's Rams and Shanahan's 49ers, I get the toughness and the talent, too. But I get discipline and schemes like smart football. Have you ever noticed over the last 10 years as football has gotten much smarter, more motion, more deception, more looks? There are so many great coaches out there. The Mico Ryans, Mike McDonald on the defensive side. McVay, Shanahan, offensive side. Have you noticed during that time, the Steelers have become less relevant? That's why I defended old guy Aaron Rodgers this year. Was he part of the brotherhood? No, he was the new guy. But the offense finally looked like grownups. Fewer penalties, fewer turnovers. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, the new guy walked in at 42. And it's like, oh, this is, despite having some limitations at wide receiver, you're like, oh, this is how an offense should function. That Steeler brotherhood has not beaten a top 10 quarterback in the playoffs in 15 years. And Big Ben and James Harrison called it out. You know, Mike Tomlin, bottom 10 offense, seven years. Why? Not innovative, not creative. You can win with defense. Seattle did it. But a sophisticated, progressive, new approach, new looks. Not just what the Steelers do. Let's spend more money. The Steelers passed defense this past year, 29th defensively. How's that brotherhood thing working? I don't know, Big Ben and James Harrison, and it takes some courage to do this, pushed back on very popular Mike Tomlin. Pushed back on this organization which keeps everything in house. I'm not into that. I'm about beating teams in February and January, top quarterbacks. So, I mean, this whole thing about talent and toughness, everybody in the NFL is tough. Everybody in the NFL has talent. You can call it a brotherhood. But if Big Ben and James Harrison are saying things they shouldn't, to me, that's the underlying problem. What Joey Porter is saying is, hey, nothing leaves house. Yeah, that's the problem. You don't discuss real problems. You don't put them out there. You don't take criticism well. You get stubborn and rigid, and the way we used to do it, it's the way we do it. They brought in 42-year-old Aaron Rodgers, old guy. In one offseason, he fixed the offense to the degree anybody could fix that offense where you didn't have a number two receiver. So I'm going to defend Big Ben and James Harrison going out and saying, there's some issues here. And some of them were Mike Tomlin. It should be noted, Mike Tomlin no longer coaches. So Big Ben and James Harrison aren't the only people that wanted to bring that up. Drew Brees was on the show yesterday, and he was great. And it was at the end of the show. And I said, Drew, if you look at your career, and you look at Super Bowl champion Sam Darnold's career, and all the turbulence you both had early, does sam's career remind you drew a little of your early career all the lessons that we hope to teach our kids through sports and through team athletics and that is that you will face adversity you will face failure and disappointment and it's how you react to it that matters and while it didn't work at the first couple teams that he went to he continued to work. He continued to recognize where he needed to get better and learn. While it wasn't maybe the road that he would have envisioned when he first got in the league, it was meant to be. And it's what has brought out the best in him and allowed him to play the way that he has, lead the way that he has, and also inspire others the way that he has. Drew said, yeah, when I watched Darnold, I thought of my early years. And you know what Drew Brees' comments made me think of? Not Darnold. Arch Manning. All these college quarterbacks now. The minute they have a bad week or get bad news, I'm out of here. Give me a paycheck. I'm out of here. And there are times I think college quarterbacks should transfer. Cam Ward at Washington State gets a Miami Hurricane offer. You take it. Trinidad Chambliss, great quarterback at Ole Miss, came from Ferris State. You take that offer and go to the SEC. but Arch Manning never left. He had to sit for two years at Texas, and then when he finally played, it was rough. He got crushed. He was bad, and he stayed there. He hung in. He was tough, and did you watch his last five or six games in the SEC? Five and one, beat A&M and Ole Miss, or excuse me, A&M and Vandy, five and one 20 touchdowns two picks 320 yards a game he overcame he endured he had to sit I watch these five-star quarterbacks if they're not starting by their red shirt freshman year I'm out of here the first sign of adversity in the NIL world I am out of here you do understand the NFL is adversity I mean God Belichick and Brady never had dinner for 20 years It can be grumpy. It can be harsh. It can be punitive. It can be tough. You can be injured. Every time we bring on an NFL player who's even 30 years old, he's on his ninth surgery. So when I'm watching Drew Brees talk about Sam Darnold, it makes me think of Arch Manning. That is the one five-star quarterback that I can think of, top of mind, who could have transferred multiple times, who had to sit behind a guy. I'm absolutely convinced he's more talented then, got beat up when he played, was really bad, and just hung in, head down, put in the work, didn't sulk, and at the end of this past year, it was really good. Too many young quarterbacks see adversity, and they scramble. They're just running, and they don't know where they're running. They're just running. And I'm not saying And you shouldn't transfer again. If you're at a small school and get an Oklahoma to call, you should go. I'm not saying that. That's opportunity. If you're at Ferris State and the SEC calls, or you're at Cal and Indiana's got money with Kurt Cignetti, like, go. I get it. Go. But there's a, I'm telling you, when people are banging on Arch Manning and say some article was like, biggest bust ever. I'm like, but half these five-star quarterbacks, if they're not playing through one year, they're out the door. Thanks for flying United. Get me where I can play. We're going to look back in about 10 years, 15 years, at how many of those get-me-out-of-here guys did. And my guess is Arch Manning will be better than most. All right, J-Mac. there's some you know sometimes during Super Bowl week a lot of stories get buried yeah the Jonathan Kaminga Steve Kerr warrior story got buried it is fascinating what's going on that thing got ugly I think that era's over real quick on Arch Manning if the Jets have any clue how to tank they will tank the entire season and get Arch Manning we've screwed this up before We had to settle for Zach Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence. And this year we're settling for no quarterback instead of Fernando Mendoza. If the Jets want a quarterback and a future in this league, they got to tank the right way. Even if it's not ours, it's going to be someone else. Would you agree on that? Yeah, I don't think Aaron Glenn has to try to tank. Oh, come on. You're taking shots at Aaron Glenn every day now. I mean, if you don't have an interception as a defensive coach and play in the same division as Tua, you know I think you're tanking without trying and that's what the Jets are doing although maybe hey maybe there a chance that Raiders don take Mendoza and the Jets get him at two I mean based on yesterday talk and I ran into a guy at the gym who a big Raiders guy He doesn want Mendoza I like what are you talking about These people are losing their mind It unbelievable what happening I going to address that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app. Stugatz here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugatz and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. 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I wouldn't do it alone. Listen to Valley of Shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. hours a day. Some of it's just my gut instinct or my eyes. But a lot of times if I have my strongest opinions, I remember when Tebow was on a hot streak and I was like, this isn't going to last. And I had somebody inside the Denver locker room saying, dude, can't play. He's not an NFL. Don't listen to all the nonsense. Whether it was Darnold over Baker, it was Herbert over Tua. Through the years, I've relied on scouts, often with my strongest opinions. They get backed by people in the league. So my scouting guys, sometimes there's a problem when I like a player way more than my scouts do, or I don't like a player as much as my scouts do. And that's where Fernando Mendoza, like I like Fernando Mendoza a lot. Everybody else just kind of likes him. Albert Breer came on the show yesterday, and this is kind of the universal opinion I hear about the Hoosier quarterback. Two years ago, when Caleb Williams went first, Jaden Daniels went second, Drake May went third, Pennix went eighth, McCarthy went 10th, and Nix went 12th. The consensus I've gotten is that he would have been the fourth of those quarterbacks. So right in the middle. I think most teams like the makeup. They like how much he's won. They like the accuracy. But is he physically what, you know, say Drake May was coming out of North Carolina, or Jaden Daniels was coming out of LSU, or Caleb Williams was coming out of USC. He's not that. Okay, when I watch him, here's what I see. Bigger, stronger, more athletic version of Matt Ryan. That's what he looks like. Well, Matt Ryan is ninth all-time in passing yards and top 10 all-time in touchdown passes, got to a Super Bowl and led 28-3, has an MVP season behind him, 15 years, four Pro Bowls. So add 30% to that. Because I think Mendoza is a little bigger, he moves a little better, and I think he's got a slightly stronger arm. So I think Matt Ryan, you could build a franchise around and get to Super Bowls with. In fact, I think largely the Falcons failed Matt Ryan. He didn't fail them. He was a very good quarterback. So, and again, Matt Ryan plus. I remember when C.J. Stroud came out and everybody said, Jared Goff's his comp. And I'm like, yeah, that's an accurate comp. Jared Goff gets to Super Bowl. He got to a Super Bowl. Jared Goff's top 10, 12 quarterbacks in the league. That's what everybody's trying to get. So it's interesting, though. I like him a lot. Everybody kind of likes him. The knock on him is he's not super athletic. It should be noted. Lamar Jackson is and Josh Allen is, and they haven't gotten to a Super Bowl. The athletic thing we talk about, Sam Darnold's athletic. How many times did he scramble in that game? How many times did Sam Darnold scramble in the Super Bowl? A couple. What he mostly did, he commanded the game, managed the game, and didn't use his hyper-athleticism. I'll admit, Mendoza's not super-athletic. But, I mean, I think his athleticism, I don't think he's Justin Herbert athletic, but he's big and strong like Herbert. So I see a better version of Matt Ryan, and Matt Ryan was really good. Was a really good quarterback. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. Let's start at the NBA, Colin, with the San Antonio Spurs, the best team in the league. Yes, you heard that right. Best team in the league. Had a nice comeback to beat the Warriors. They won by 13. Ended up covering the spread despite a poor three quarters to start the game. Wemby cooked the Lakers on Tuesday and then basically filleted the Warriors on Wednesday. He and Darren Fox combined for 53 points. Colin, this team is really on fire. They got about seven guys. They have a starting five they use, two or three guys off the bench. It's very much like Oklahoma City. You know exactly who's playing, how many minutes they're playing. This is what championship teams look like. OKC and the Spurs. You know when Denver won that title, they had the same thing. They had to move off guys, and they've never been the same. But because they're not, you know, because right now you're not paying Wemby a fortune and you're not paying a Stathaw and Castle a fortune is they've got their finances right. They've got draft picks. The Spurs and OKC, that's how you do it. Great GMing. Keep your draft capital. Have ascending players. And Wemby is now... Is Wemby moved into best player in the league? He's in that discussion with Luka, Jokic. Jokic is number one. If Giannis is ever healthy. Yeah, Jokic is the best player in the league. Wemby's a much better defensive player. I don't think Luka is, I think Luka's dropped down to like six or seven. Wow. All right, so hey, real quick, I know you're big on this is how a championship team looks. You're right. So do you want to know the last time the Spurs won a playoff series, Kyle? Eight years ago? 2017, okay? They have been garbage for the last eight or nine years. Two playoff appearances and then nothing. That's how you're able to be good now. And you've got a lot of young guys because you keep drafting high. They got Harper, who was a top early pick. They got Castle. They got Wambinyama. That's what it takes. You missed the playoffs for nine years. And that's what Adam Silver wants. That is the new CBA. But the Lakers aren't close. And the Lakers have tried to transactionally trade for AD, trade for Luka. And you can get those players. but that's not what the league is anymore and so is los angeles going to be patient with the new dodgers owners for years and i don't think los angeles is built to be that like in baseball you can just go buy guys in the nfl you can go awful to great overnight the nba now and this is the adam silver nba everybody's shooting threes nobody wins backs to backs and the one way to build is draft and develop. Well, the problem is the NFL draft gives you a 23-year-old. The NBA draft gives you a 19-year-old. So they're not even ready to go to the hotel bar. So are Los Angeles Lakers fans ready to move off LeBron, get some draft capital and a player for Austin Reeves and get more athletic, and wait for about four years to get back into that OKC San Antonio mold? Well, I think patient, you used the right word. That's the word. That's the key word. The Lakers had the young guys, D'Angelo Russell, Brandon Ingram, all those early picks, Lonzo Ball. We don't have the patience for this. Let's bring in LeBron James. Let's bring in AD. But the league was less punitive to that. That wasn't necessarily bad GMing. No, it was great. They got a title. That is bad GMing now. Well, now you're right. It's tough. And that's what's going to make this Luka thing tricky because the league has these stupid new rules that kind of want to restrict player movement Colin riddle me this why did Adam Silver want that The best this league has been post was the last decade where everybody moving around The Warriors super team, LeBron's creating. Well, we talked about the NBA more during KD Warriors and the Heedles. And I believe it's because David Stern, the late great commissioner, took over a league that nobody cared about. So he understood the value of New York and Chicago and the Celtics and the Lakers. big brands being great. Adam Silver inherited a different league from David Stern, one that was top heavy, where 70% of the owners were unhappy that you could create super teams. So Adam Silver is like, ah, let's have a league with ultimate parody. Dynasties are popular. Go back to the 10 most popular NBA teams in my lifetime. Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, the Bad Boy Pistons, the Heedles. Now, that doesn't mean every dynasty, Duncan Spurs, are beloved or fascinating. Right. But there is a history in basketball. Ask yourself this. The top 10 AAU teams in the country, they always, you know, Atlanta Metro, Detroit Metro, basketballs, UConn basketball, Duke basketball, UConn women's basketball, basketball has always lent itself to dynasties. Why? Because you only have five starters and eight rotational players. If you get two great players together, you could have 10 great players in the NFL. If you've got a crappy coach, you're done. So basketball has always lent itself. It's the reality of the structure, the construct of basketball. You're going to have dynasties. Girls' teams, boys' teams, it doesn't matter. And so Adam's pushing back on a reality of the sport. Get out of the way. If people want to play together, Magic love playing with Kareem and Worthy and Michael Cooper. Like, if you're going to have stars, stars want to play with stars. Kobe wanted Gasol and Shaq. He didn't want that two-year period when they didn't have another star. And you know who's going to be hurt the most by this, Colin, is Steph Curry, who's stuck on a putrid Warriors team. Where's he going to go? Not even a playoff team. And LeBron, who is averaging 22-6-6 or whatever. and he's looking at like he might just have to take a major pay cut or retire. Like it's real. I don't like what Adam Silver did. I think they butchered this and I'm not optimistic about the next few years. You can go to eighth grade basketball where it's boys and girls and then it becomes high school basketball and then it becomes college basketball and then it becomes pro basketball on every level. Basketball is about dynasties. You go to any state in this country, there's one basketball program in high school that dominates, maybe two. And I'm talking about, you know, outside of maybe California, even big states. So I just think, just let the water flow where it goes naturally. Great players want to play with great players. All right, let's move on to the NFL. And the New England Patriots suffered a big L in the Super Bowl. It's curious whether or not they'll get back there. But at his final press conference of the season Tuesday, Mike Vrabel broke down a message he gave his team following the loss. talked about a disappointing finish to a phenomenal exciting enjoyable year you know it's unfortunate talk to him about the you know foundation i think that we've built much like uh like a home you know you build a home and then run out of things to do and so you continue to add on to it you finish the basement you make additions to it and we'll try to do that to this football team. I like the foundation of it and I'll try to improve on it. Yep. Attack the offensive line. Get another tight end and wide receiver. The defense is good enough. It just needs more depth. They'll be very good next year. The downside is the entire AFC had a hiccup this year. Like, I mean, it really was. Kansas City and Baltimore and Burrow and the Chargers lost both their tackles. The problem for New England isn't their roster. It's their competition. The AFC had a down year. This was the year with a Patriots schedule to sneak through. I think there'll be a better roster next year and yet won't get to the AFC championship with a better roster. Yeah, so the schedule, by the way, the first place schedule is going to be brutal, Colin. It's like last year was a joke. I'm looking at the schedule. Jags, Seahawks, Chargers, Chiefs, Lions, Bears. I'm not making this up. These are the away games. I mean, in the division, they'll beat the Jets and the Dolphins. That's fine. They got to go to the Bears, the Lions. I don't think you're – again, everybody can get excited about Drake May and Rabel. There's a world where this team misses the playoffs next year. It's not a lock. The biggest advantage the NFL has over college football, and you and I love college football, is that the better you get, the league stacks the rosters against you. in college football, the better Saban's teams got, the more power Nick had with the schedule and the softer out-of-conference schedule. They wouldn't go on the road out-of-conference against anybody, right? It was like neutral field or in Tuscaloosa. The great thing about the NFL where it really separates, you get more high-quality games, you get a New England schedule for a year, take advantage of it, the following year, you are going to face a gauntlet of great teams, and that is why it creates all these great games. Think about this. We got about 14 games a weekend in the NFL. Nine are compelling. What's the hit rate? In college football, you got 70 games a weekend. There's six good ones. You have so many lopsided games. So I love that the Patriots took advantage of this, but next year's true serum. And they'll be better, but they won't have as good a record. Not even close. All right, final story is the Seattle Seahawks wrapping up their Super Bowl win. Ernest Jones, the linebacker, came to the defense of Sam Darnold yesterday or two days ago at the parade. Shout out to these bad ass who play this game. The right win. Not only do we have the best defense in the world, we got the best team in the world. And quite frankly, if you got anything to say but my quarterback, you got anything to say but my defense, You got anything to say about Ola And you got anything to say About the city of Seattle I got two words for you That was kind of frank Ernest is the Was he hammered? I mean, jeez How many drinks did the guy have at that point? Come on Goodness gracious Okay, Sam Darnold won the Super Bowl He went to Disneyland The end. Jay Mack with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herdline News. So I just saw this. The Packers' Matt LaFleur, serious story, has landed on the coaching hot seat list. so um here according to this story the 10 coaches on the hot seat Aaron Glenn obviously uh and you know Brian Schottenheimer Todd Bowles Zach Taylor like some are predictable they have Matt LaFleur at number nine second most wins in the history of the NFL for a coach in his first seven wins seven years uh according to foxsports.com they got they got Matt LaFleur are on the list. Okay. I don't agree with that at all. The interesting one though, is Nick Sariani, Eagles coach at two. Because I believe the market is the truth. When Cleveland fired Kevin Stefanski, he interviewed with the top five jobs within a week. I said, when they fired him, he's going to land the first or second best job on the market. Now, Buffalo didn't look like it had any intention of hiring anybody but Joe Brady, so that one was kind of out. And Baltimore really leaning heavily into Jesse Minter. But the market is the truth. Kevin Stefanski interviewed immediately for all the top jobs. What's interesting with Sirianni is I don't think he'd get another job. Not quickly. So fans are completely swayed by winning. But there's a lot of different ways to win. Sometimes a coach inherits a mess, Bill Parcell's career, and turns around quickly. And sometimes a coach inherits a really good roster, Nick Ceriani. He inherited a great O-line and a great owner and a great GM and great team momentum. I mean, they got rid of a coach who won a Super Bowl. so you got to be careful results based analysis where you base everything on the results is flawed that's what miami did and they paid 54 million a year for two well he made a pro bowl i mean anyway he made the playoffs he had a great offensive coach when he was making the playoffs he had a running back that led the nfl in touchdowns He had a track team on the sidelines at wide receiver, and the Jets and the Patriots were a mess in rebuilding. Okay, you can't just be swayed by results. That's like judging a real estate broker only when the interest rates are 3% to 3.5%. Anybody can sell a home with that. If you have a real estate broker and the interest rates are 7.5%, I have a friend who's a real estate broker down in Florida. Everybody tells me, man, Florida, that is a buyer's market, man. A seller, they can't sell anything. He's never had better years. He's really good. And the interest rates aren't ideal. That's a good real estate broker. Anybody can, anybody, if you give them a track team on the perimeter, Mike McDaniel, 18 running back touchdowns, weak division where it's Buffalo and team circle in the drain, Patriots rebuilding, Jets rebuilding. So that's my take on Nick Sirianni is he landed this great, great job. And you all think Nick Sirianni is a better coach than Kevin Stefanski. The market reacted to Stefanski's firing. Everybody interviewed him. Sirianni's got a trophy. If he lost his job, who's interviewing him? Seriously, who's hiring him? Maybe he could get a job. I don't think he'd get one of the good ones. It can't just be results-based judging. Winning takes, there's a lot of different ways to win. We just had two defensive coaches in a Super Bowl after years of offensive coaches. So by all accounts, I mean, the offensive line coach for Philadelphia, Jeff Scoutland, considered the best offensive line coach, He's still coaching. He left the Eagles with all that talent in the old line. He left it. What does that tell you? So when Green Bay Packer fans get all worked up about Matt LaFleur, you guys don't know how good you have it with Matt LaFleur. You do realize Green Bay doesn't land free agents. How did the Seahawks get Sam Darnold? Big city, good coach, convinced him to come there. There were more than one team wanted Sam Darnold. So Green Bay does not attract free agents like other places do. I mean, some players love playing there, but there's not a lot to do. It's a tiny town. That's a huge disadvantage. The Packers have always done a great job drafting and developing, mostly because that's the only way they can build dynasties, drafting and developing. Seahawks can do it multiple ways. Eagles can do it multiple ways. Rams can do it multiple ways. Rams give up their first-round picks, and they're great. So when I see coaching hot seat and I see Matt LaFleur on it, I mean, you gotta be serious. That's just not serious. Live in Chicago, it's The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. 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Listen to Valley of Shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. hoops guy beating the nba yeah no certainly the college basketball season colin this is i mean there's like seven teams that could legitimately win the natty it's amazing there are so many good teams this year it's gonna be a great tournament it helps outside of kansas and their star you know who's playing every night oh yeah it's amazing football players tackle each other and yet they're always available on sunday and basketball players run wind sprints and they're always hurt you know I don't like when you do that. I mean, it's just not nice. College basketball, they play fast, too. I always get the starters showing up. Seems like to me. So, it's amazing. I'm reading a story this morning how the Russell Wilson trade by Seattle really jump-started what we're watching now. They got all these picks, Devin Witherspoon, Charles Cross, the left tackle, and others. So they started building. But what's interesting is at that time, Russell Wilson was good. But he was viewed by John Snyder, the GM, as not good enough. And that's what you can take from the Seahawks Super Bowl. You're not going to duplicate this defense, the dark side. You're not going to go eight for eight the next four years on your top two or three picks in the draft. You're not John Snyder. You don't have that. What you can identify as something to emulate is what the Seahawks did. It's the same thing the Niners did with Garoppolo, who got to a Super Bowl in San Francisco said, we're not going to settle. It's what McVay said to Jared Goff, who got to a Super Bowl. We can be better at that position. It's what Andy Reid and the Chiefs said, even though Alex Smith got Kansas City to the playoffs, we're not going to settle for that. The Eagles with Wentz, we found something we think is better. You can laugh at this, but the Bucs had Jameis Winston, who led the NFL in passing yards, was second in passing touchdowns as the league was transitioning to an offensive league. And they said, now we're going to get the old guy, Brady. It's not good enough. Jameis Winston was wildly productive. Pete Carroll, by the way, thought Geno Smith was good enough, and he got whacked. Mike McDonald got one year of Geno Smith, got him out of the building. We're upgrading. That's what you can take from the Seattle Seahawks. Don't copy their identity. Copy their mindset, which is don't settle. I'll give you a great example. This works. This is a two-way street. Demarcus Lawrence, who loves Dallas, played with Dallas, wanted to end his career with Dallas, went to Seattle, and he didn't do it for the money. He only got like $18 million guaranteed money. Demarcus Lawrence, do you remember when he said this? you know dallas is my home um i made my home there you know my family lives there you know i'm forever going to be there but you know i know for sure i'm not going to win a super bowl there i'm not going to settle for the dallas cowboys nonsense i'm going to go to better structure a non-meddling owner in his eyes a better coach a better system and a better roster So it works both ways. It's just that's what you copy from Seattle and the Rams and Kansas City and the Niners don't settle. Geno's fine. Darnold's better, obviously. And it was obvious before the trade or before the free agent signing. So here was Darnold this week at the parade reflecting on his journey. I just want to say I've talked a lot this last week about belief. A lot of people, you know, didn't believe in me, but it didn't matter because the ones that are close believed in me, including y'all. I appreciate y'all so much. That short list also includes Jody Allen, John Schneider, Mike McDonald, man. I appreciate the belief y'all had in me for signing me this past year. And last but certainly not least, these players, man, for believing in me. You know, I wouldn't be here without these guys. Yeah, it's funny. John Snyder, GM, and Mike McDonald, the coach of the Seahawks, both publicly and privately lamented the fact they could not figure out why Darnold was so negatively covered by the media. And I think this goes back to something we've discussed, that those initial first impressions are really strong, especially if it's like a three-year first impression. And seeing ghosts, people just were not willing to move off that. There's a lot of rigidity in sports, which is silly. New information, new opinion. I've always said, if your biggest criticism of me is I move off opinions, yeah, I'll own that forever. New information, new opinion. Sam Darnold jets didn't work. Sam Darnold, end of his Carolina run. Oh, four and two as a starter. San Francisco, Minnesota, Seattle is a new player. New information. He's really, really good. Is he top 10 good? Maybe closer to 10 than three, but he's good. There's no question he's good. And it was funny having Drew Brees on yesterday. Here's four quarterbacks who have gone through a playoff without a turnover. Darnold, Brees, Aikman, Steve Young. All of them had great coaches. all of them had their best roster ever in their career and they figured out i'm not taking big risks here you go back to that saints team with breeze we were watching yesterday the highlights of it that saints team was stacked they had corners and safeties and linebackers and running backs i mean yeah they had guys they had like bit players on that team that could play special teams And Drew Brees figured it out. You know, it's like there are times as a quarterback, it's like, I got to take risks. We play from behind a lot. We've got holes. I mean, that's Matt Stafford. Like Matt Stafford knows the Rams corners. They should draft two corners this year before the fourth round. Matt Stafford knows we got to be good on offense because you can beat us down. Carolina almost beat the Rams twice. I mean, there are holes with most teams. Seattle didn't have a hole. I mean, they do not have a hole. they have exceptional special teams, top three special teams. Even their offensive line, which I had criticized during the year, I think center, right guard, right tackle, it's okay. I think left guard, left tackle, very good. I mean, we say this, I'm not sure. When's the last NFL team? And I guess you could say Philadelphia last year, but was Philadelphia special teams this good? Jalen Hurts doesn't throw over the middle of the field. Ringer has an article this week on Jalen Hurts. He literally doesn't throw over the middle of the field. Nick Sirianni's not in Mike McDonald's class as a coach. I'm trying to think of an NFL team in the last eight years, nine years, ten years. This good. Everything. A at everything. And their O-line, maybe they overachieved. Maybe they're better than we give them credit for. O-line was pretty good to me in the playoffs. Pretty good in the Super Bowl. Because New England's defense is good. That wasn't about the Seahawks O-line. Our tune in. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Adventures of Curiosity Cove podcast, when peanut butter disappears from school, Ella, Scout, and Layla launch a full detective mission. 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