Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Logan Paul Backs Out, Trent McDuffie GETS PAID, Claressa vs. Rolly

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And I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of the team that you bought for taking care of you, they say some conflicting reports emerging about Travis Kelsey and he's possibly going to test the market. I guess originally it was said that, you know, he was going to be back. And that was just basically a given that, you know, he would be there. I think the athletic reported they expected him to return to Kansas City. And then the AP had said if he plays, the only place he's playing is Kansas City and that he won't test the market. Bull spit. Bull spit. He is going to test the market and he should test the market. hell yeah test the market you know why because they thinking they're about to get this player friendly deal and that is not about to happen okay he's gonna make sure kansas city gives him his worth it's a business and he ain't doing no player deal on top of that you ain't gonna have patching homes for most of the years not all of the year damn right he gonna test the market and along with them testing the market, you know who come with me when I go? Taylor Swift. The Swifties. Taylor Swift go with me and the Swifties go with me. Hey, boom, here they go. Tickets prices just went higher than giraffe. You know what I mean? I know what you're saying. They done went higher than giraffe pussy. You know what I'm saying, boy? It's out of there. It's out of there. It's out of there. Look, what you think, baby? I don't. I don't know though about this one I don't know I think he might chill I think he might chill I think he's going to stay in Kansas City and the reason why is for two reasons he may he might test the market just to see what the value is and I think Kansas City may match it if he does that and or Travis he got Patrick Mahomes there that's his man bro that's his good man brother he's not going to be back until late in the season late in the season if they don't get close to matching that, do you think that he could possibly go somewhere else? Say they talking 10, somebody else talking 15, 16 I mean with I can see Trav chilling, I can see Trav being in a comfortable position where I don't know, depending on who's giving him the 15 or 16, I'm not seeing him go to a bad team for more money right now at the end of his career. The money with Traff, he's got a lot of stuff going on, and the dude is up, for sure. So with me now, I'm thinking, does he want to, he wants to, I feel like he wants to win. He's not going to want to go out as a loser. He doesn't feel like, I don't think that four million is going to move the needle for him in too many ways. So I'm thinking he's going to try to be, for sure, on a contender. You know what I forgot? You're right. He got the whole, he got steakhouses in Kansas City. My man got, real live things going on. Money's cool. So if Seattle say we want you at 15 and Kansas City say 10. See, that's what I'm saying. Right there. I love when you study, Joe, because it's something you don't want to say. It's something that's different where am I talking about me or am I talking about Trav? Am I talking about, you know what I'm saying? What I think maybe he would do is probably still, I don't know, he'd probably still stay. I don't know. That's what I would say. I would think so. I would think so. I don't... I think with the situation now... How many more years? I don't know how many more years Travis is thinking about playing. What if it's LA? Rams. What if it's the Rams? Hold up. That's interesting because he likes the goal. They got cribs out there in LA. So if you say something like that that makes sense, then that's not a bad move. And Lala ain't never mad at L.A. Trav, they've been in L.A. That goes. That goes together. So, we will see. The choke they've left here. If you would ask me right now, I think he's going to play with Kansas City, for sure. I don't think he's going nowhere. Yeah, I don't think he leaves KC, no matter. I mean, I really don't. I ain't going to lie to you. I just don't see it happening, no matter what the number is, to be honest with you. I think you just got too much there. Unless, like you said, you go to LA route, that's a lot more, you know. A lot more endorsement opportunities over there. Oh, for sure. You know what I'm saying? He got, the man, he got options. I wouldn't mind. The thing you said, too, the friendly deals. If the bag is bigger somewhere else, for sure, but it is a contender, definitely. But you wouldn't, I'm just not seeing a trap going somewhere, winning two games, because he can make a couple more, a couple more dollars. Oh, hell no. You know what I'm saying? Be in a jacked up situation. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of LA, man, we stay out there with the Rams. The Rams don't get that man, Trent Duffy. Four years, $124 million, including $100 million guaranteed made in the highest paid corner in NFL history. Yes, sir. Mm-hmm. Bye. point nine nine hundred thousand dollars he got he make 31 sauce gardener at 30.1 you got derrick stingley he's at 30 then you got horn 25 and it goes down from there ramsey 24 patrick sertan 24 joe yes sir where does put nephew nephew little peasy Joey Porter, Joey, where this foot nephew where this foot nephew at at Joe? Yes sir the thing is the thing is he's going between the minimum it's going to be between 24 at the minimum and then 27 is going to be minimum 27 is going to be minimum 27 is going to be minimum and we're only taking 27 if it's fully guaranteed free this is this the only reason i'm trying to tell you this this is a free agent an unrestricted free agent so he's going to go and get the highest highest highest bag possible so when that's why when i was going through the same thing revis was getting 16 a year as a free agent and that's when me richard sherman and patrick peterson were going through our negotiations pat p i mean Richard Sherman got 14, me and Pat B got 13.5. And the highest was 16 at Darrell Revis because he was just floating around free agent. Long-term deals were just a little bit less than that free agent going to go break the market. So when we say that, like, and nephew, thousand percent. It's going to be between, I say, like you said, over, Patrick Sattan got 24 a year. You know what I'm saying? JC Horn, 25. Stingley at 30 in his new joint. Okay. Okay. You're making sense. I'm looking at it like you say 27, 27 27 to 30 27 to 30 27 to 30 27, 27 and we're going we're looking for a four year deal we're looking for a four year okay that's 108 so you're looking at four for 108 but it's fully guaranteed fully guaranteed at 26 fully every penny every penny four for 108 listen He got Jamar Chase twice a year, man. What y'all talking about? No, trust me. I'm with him getting the bag. I'm with Peasy because he's done what he had to do. He went out that joint, balled out, was getting better every year, and he deserves it for sure. So we're just talking about now in guarantees, what are they looking like? What are guaranteed numbers? I'm rocking you trying to go. You're trying to get how much of the contract guaranteed? You're trying to get the full thing. If you're talking anything Around 26 to 27 I need full I need a full bag So if you're talking All four Okay I hear you I need all four guaranteed man What are you talking about So if you did So that At 25 That'd be four years 100 million Fully guaranteed If it was 26 It'd be four years 104 Fully guaranteed What's wrong with that I'm just I'm just I'm just trying to... That's just a lot of guaranteed. And I haven't seen... He just got a hundred million guaranteed out of 124. 108 out of 124? He got a hundred million guaranteed out of 124, a four-year 124. So a week ago, so you're saying four years. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. I'm just... So the thing is with the guaranteed money, it's going to cut it off because it's going to be a three-year deal with the guarantees. So if Lil Peasy signed a three-year 78 fully guaranteed, do you know what I'm saying? Like that would be $26 million a year, three years fully guaranteed, the whole deal. Do you know what I'm saying? We need four years. Basically, the fourth year is just that extra. That's just the year that you put on there that is good for them. Well, if that's the case, the number, it ain't fully guaranteed no more. I know. Then we're talking three years, 100 million. But that's basically what TJ basically signed. TJ basically signed a three for 108, fully guaranteed. Do you know what I'm saying? That last four for 124, that extra at the end, that doesn't really matter. You're going to renegotiate or something's going to happen at that last year. If TJ would have just signed a three-year 108 fully guaranteed, then that's where I'm looking at Peasy doing the same thing as a three-year, you know what I'm saying, $78, $80 million fully guaranteed instead of putting it four for adding that extra year to make it 106 and then they can do whatever they want at that last year. That's why I said fully, fully. That's what I'm saying. You might as well just do it. The shorter deal is what it's going to be then if they're going to go fully. It's going to be a three-year for 70-something. We ain't doing no less than four. Y'all already had my guy drop down to the second round. Nah, uh-uh. I feel you. 30. Because he's trying to get 30, 60, 90, 120. He wants a 4 for 120. No question. For sure. No question. This man at 31. You got two more right there sitting at 30. I'm not mad at it. The 30, that's just that simple math. That simple math. But... One twanky. The twanky. Like, pay the nephew, man. Get nephew his money, man. Give him his money, man. Yes. What y don want to do I trying to tell y what y don want to do is let this man get into this season and then play this season out And I telling you right now you ain going to be able to keep him It's going to be about 33. 34. You're right, because he ain't doing nothing but going up. Ain't doing nothing but going up. So I would say for sure, if BZ, my man get that little four, 120, 120, four years, 120. He can do the same thing. Thank you. Thank you, brother. No, that's what we're saying. Okay, no, for sure. Let's get it. Look here, man. I don't know how this works, but it'll never happen. Clarissa Shields believes she can beat Roley in a fight. She was on Justin LaBoy, and she said this, man. Is there a male champion, regardless of weight, that you believe you can be? I beat Roley. He's a world champion. Roley Ramirez. Listen, it's not about... I think Roley is very unorthodox. He's very strong, right? But... Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpwright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hilary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing her first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry and stay grounded through every chapter. It's a raw and honest conversation about identity, evolution, and building a life that truly matters. You desire in family, like, this picture, and that's not reality a lot of the time. It's for people. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life. And I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast Doubt the case of Lucy Letby we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong Listen to Doubt the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search for it. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the bachelor. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Way taller than him, way longer than him and got better boxing skills. How about one of his punches, though? Did you not hear what I said? it's hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that's bigger. I walk around at 185. He fights at 140. Or is it 47? He said 140, 147. But I'm just saying, though, like, when you – and then, like, with his skill set. Yeah. Yo. What do you think? Oh, first, I want to hear from you. First, I want to hear from you. Okay, I understand. Never let you know. She's walking around at 185. I understand that. Yeah, she is. He fights at 147. Who says he's not walking around 20 pounds heavier either? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And like, just, right, that's what I'm saying. Like, just, I just don't see it happening, even with the weight difference. You know, she says she's taller, but I believe the reach is almost the same, though. Like, they got the same reach, I think. I want to say it's 68, 68 is the reach. And just men in general, like you generate more power they're saying it's anywhere from like 30 to 40 percent more power based on a pound per pound being the same as far as you know a man of this weight and a woman of this weight it's a higher you know muscle mass like like density like the the like it's it's just it's different dude like it's just evolutionary genetic biological stuff that is there that you just can't get away from as a male and a female, dude. Like, thicker skulls. Like, thicker jaw structure. Like, it's it. Like, it's totally different. I don't think she's taking into account all that. She's just looking at her skill, and I understand you believe in your skill and all that, but like, dude, a dude hitting you? That's I don't know. I definitely don't give her a chance of winning, and if it is, it is very minute. I would say I do not want to see this fight at all. I think the one thing is, Clarissa Shields is one of the baddest women I've ever seen in my life. When I've seen her fights, she has hands. She's fighting big women. She's really throwing them. When I first looked, I thought she was like 200. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't know. She's like, I walk around 185, her fighting 160-something, 170, but end of the day, I just like men's strength of it's just different and her being a professional boxer that's sweet but I'm just looking at like Roley in the day he's still walking around at 185 you want 170 you know I'm saying that's just I don't like to see that competition when we're talking about physical men versus women was always taught you don't touch a girl you don't do that just because I was always like raised you're gonna you're bigger and stronger you know I'm saying so like You always treat women with respect, all of that. So I'm just really, I just think he's, men and women in physical combat is something that I'm like, I just don't think that it's a good way to go. She's the only person too. She's a woman. She's a professional. She's a heavyweight boxer. But it's still like, it's just still for me, I just don't see women and men doing those hand-to-hand combat joints like that. And he's a professional boxer also. She's not like, it's just a dude walking off the street that, you know what I'm saying, is 170 pounds. she's going to probably put him to sleep for sure. Roley is a professional boxer that's taken beatings, taken pounding from other professional boxers too. So I just don't, I don't know. If anybody could do it, it would be her. I just do one. I don't know if I want to see. So you think she could do it? No, I don't think she could do it. I don't think she could. And yeah, I think if anybody in the world could, she could. But I don't think that she could because he's another, he's a professional. I think he's just a male professional too. So I don't know. He done put, what, 13, 14 people to sleep in? Brother. Yes. He's not no amateur. He's not doing this for fun either. Both of y'all's hands are registered. Both of y'all not playing. I just, yeah. It's just too much. I would, yeah. I'm not saying that. Physically, biologically, this is too different that I think she could against him. Now, yeah, like you said, a cat off the street beat the brakes off his ass you know what i'm saying like easy gracefully easy work but you're talking you know you're talking about a skilled a skilled fighter i understand she you know her skills may be better they actually they actually may be better but it ain't like he's not go hit you yeah like you got hit a lot in that fight that you just fought she wants smoke though did that fight that she just fought with that they were throwing hands. Yeah. Now think about standing there throwing hands like that with him. Catching them with him. All those because she was taking them. She was taking them from old girl too. Like that's why I'm like oh my God this y'all looks crazy. I don't know. Like nah. I can't. Nah man. It's this. And you know how that is. Next thing you know she started bleeding in there and the leaking it's going to be looking crazy. he's boxing her up like hitting them like this oh my god somebody's like you know it's just optics for me too stop hitting her you know what I'm saying like she's wow she's taking them she's eating them jumps I don't think she's gonna eat too many of those have you ever seen this dude hit these people man nah he ain't nah he ain't taking too many of those man there we go and your boy over there Logan Paul he said he can't fight he said he can't fight after WWE allegedly prevented him from from doing it what do you think y'all? you think they actually prevented you from doing it? I don't know I don't know I don't think he wanted to fight Le'Veon because he said it in his first post when somebody said something you take him what he said He said, and you can fight, and you're not playing the league, and I don't want to fight with you. So I think. Thank you. Joe, you got that whack-based internet. It's freezing up out on you again. So, yeah. That's, yeah. Oh, you got this big house. You got stuff everywhere in the internet. Trash. See? Trash, Joe. Trash. Look here, man. this is what I think happened. I know, like you said, he ain't want that. He ain't want that with El Bell, man. He seen them hands. He seen my dude's hands, man. He was like, I want something untrained that I ain't never did this before. He a fighter. He can fight. I can't have that. I can't do that. And then you know what he did? He went on ahead and he said, let me call WWE so they can get me out of this because I'm scared that this man go put them dick beaters on me you know what I'm saying he said I can't have that he said so boss I'm gonna call you y'all video it so it's on record that I could put it out there that I can't fight because I'm too valuable to the WWE. Yes, because they know he go beat the brakes off of your ass. And that is why I believe he went and did that. Like how many people actually have a car ready and set up, ready to go, just filming you so you can get this reason, excuse out in the air. He probably just made, look, I'm gonna go devil's advocate because I don't think he, I don't know if he was scared, but to prove why he couldn't be on it is maybe why he did the call I like Le I like Le but I just gonna say it could be it could be legit because he is WWE he does have a contract it could be like look they looked and probably said oh no I don't want you because they were scared they said I don't want you fighting him WWE that's a man WWE could be scared they were like that's a man uh uh no he he go whoop on you he go whoop on you we can't have you over there now you can't wrestle. He look focused. He done hit you so hard. He done went and did your jaw like Joshua did your brother. That's crazy. His brother ain't scared of nothing. I tell you that. I am not letting I'm not letting Rob Boxer hit me, bro. No. I'm not. Hey, I got a question for you. Yes. Mike Tyson. In his prime. 100 million. You taking an uppercut from me? Bro, that's the part is, you just saying I'm walking in there doing like chin out. Hey. Uppercut. You here in this. He's going to burn out. He's going to shatter my hole, break my jaw. Bro, I ain't taking no punch. I ain't taking no punch. I'm not doing it. That's what I'm saying. Everybody, if you're doing it, You're having to worry about your holes. You're going to be wired shut, mouth wired shut. So you're going to just take that not to talk. I get 100% of talk ever again. Think about Mortal Kombat. Hey, when he pull your head off like that, bro, that uppercut lie with it. And you victim weight. That uppercut lie with it. Pull your hole. Pop that hole. You know what I'm saying? Your neck ain't strong. You ain't got no muscle in your neck. I ain't talking about it. I know, man. You heard the tackle talk about when I come around the corner. I be hitting shit, Debo. I'm not just walking around. I'm not going to just look like this. But I will knock some shit loose. What you talking about? Out here playing with me like I don't... Uppercut Joe. Like I ain't really put my whole body into it. That's what I'm saying. Your chin and neck taking all that, Joe. That ain't going to be good for you, Joe. I'm not letting Mike Tyson uppercut me. Are you letting him uppercut you? Hell no. My son said, hey, I'm just going to eat it. I said, no, you're not. You're going to die trying. Your son going to be eating fluids. I said you're going to die trying to take an uppercut from Mike Tyson. Are you crazy? Yeah, we're eating through a straw. Like, oh, no. It's no way, dude. I'm not taking that, Joe. Yeah, it's straight soup. Do you want to have soup for the rest of your life, son? Done. Yogurt? Done. Done, though. Joe, man. Joe. What's up, coach? You know what time it is, man. Yes, sir. It's time for Play-A-Fade presented by PrizePix. All right, Joe. Yeah. This is how it worked, man. You done cooked up this lineup right here, baby. Yes. So, what we going to do? I decided. I'm going to choose to play or fade this thing right here. Okay. On you. Okay. All right. Now you go ahead. You run with it, baby. So that's why, first and foremost, CLE, you know I rock with the land. Always. Donovan Mitchell is always in his duffel. Always in his duffel. And they're going against Philly? Okay. So I like Donovan over 26. James Harden, new addition. Welcome back to the crib. And he's been hooping ever since he's been with the Cavs. I like him over 20 and a half points. Those two, cooking, cooking, cooking. Oubre, I'm a fan of Oubre, but I'm liking my people. We're going to strap him up a little bit. He's going to be under 17 and a half. 16, he might get 15 points. It's going to be a good day, but not good enough. I'm in my basketball bag though, guys. I'm just letting y'all know, this is going to hit. Then we got Shea Gildress Alexander, 24 and a half. Shea wakes up with 25. Shea wakes up out of bed with 25. That's nothing but done. And then Jalen Brunson against LA, against the clip, he is, he shoots at least 25 shots a game. So there's no chance that he's not going to hit 25. He is a bucket for them. He's their main go-to scorer. He's going to drop 25. This room right here is an obvious, obvious, obvious play. If you want to make the 20 for the 260, because, yeah. What you think, Debo? This is what I'm going to do for you, Joe. What you going to do? I'm going to play the thing with you. I ain't going to go against my boy. I know you know, because you smart. Look here, bro. Look here. Make sure y'all download the app today and use the code DEBOJOE. They're getting $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That cold now. Deebo Joe. They're getting $50 in lineups. Yes, sir. After your first $5 lineup. I had to get in my basketball duffel bag. Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Look, we're going to start off with the super chats that we missed from yesterday. Sorry, from Friday. Was it Friday? Yes. From the super chats that we missed. Hold up. Hey. what's up hey el bell tomorrow hit me up el bell say he coming tomorrow we're gonna see perfect we're gonna see what really happen we're gonna we're gonna talk to el bell personally see what happens we're gonna have him right here tomorrow top top of the show next monday our 2026 iheart podcast awards are happening live at south by southwest this is the biggest night in podcasting we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpwright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hilary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing her first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry and stay grounded through every chapter. It's a raw and honest conversation about identity, evolution, and building a life that truly matters. You desire in family, like, this picture, and that's not reality a lot of the times for people. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life. And I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict? A villain? A nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it, all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing bachelor. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. love it let's go we're gonna get to the super chats that we missed from yesterday covenant life is right here fight us she says i hate to say this i believe the browns will get the weapons needed and be contenders for 2026 now let me go throw up why would they ain't go get nothing that they need they ain't even got an offensive line we already started signing an offensive lineman Don't even trip. Covenant Life is hip. She's smart. She know. Great call, Covenant. We letting this go. Look, look. Just chill. No. Just chill. It's going to start happening. You're going to see. You got Covenant Life again. $20. She said, Debo and Joe, if there were a reunion game to play, not flat, would you suit up and what team would you like to go up against? I would love to see Troy and you on the same field against the Rat, the Ratbirds the Ravens she called it the Rattings it's the Ratbirds what a game Joe I'm gonna tell her the truth cause I am not putting on a uniform or a suit unless I got a good 12 to 15 months of training head start I need all my people not flash she said a real game not flag. Oh, hell no. Covered it? You're trying to get people hurt out there. Listen, man, I'm going to tear something up off the You know how many hamstrings and everything will be blown out there? Dudes just can't just come off the couch thinking it's sweet. Get up to full speed. When is the last time a regular person just get up to full speed? You know what I'm saying? You don't do that. You'll pull something. So I ain't going to lie to you, brother. I can't even remember the last time I competitively full out had to try and sprint to beat somebody. Like I do the 75 the stride. Nah, I ain't doing that digging. I just raised my kids and they still not old enough yet. They still 7 and 9. So I can still get, I don't even got to really get up to the speed yet. I'm racing them from the bus and then I don't know. Probably when my boy he's nine, I say when he get about 15 16, then I get about 40 then that might be when we start getting a little closer. I'm going to tell you right now I ain't racing my kids no more even though they get you out the way right now you'll blow a hamstring I'm going to blow a hamstring a tire is going to fall off I'm going to blow a tire I'm a boy tired do you think you could beat him though? no you can't if you're taking that hard you're going to blow it you're going to blow a hammy I'm willing to go down I'm willing to go down as long as you give me the time to train Joe I got to get all my people back in line Joe I'm going to have to spend about $250,000, $350,000 just to race one time it's not worth it I got to win Joe I gotta win I can't let him you about to come in that bionic legs and all 350 350's crazy oh man I'm telling you I'm gonna have to do something man coming to life it's $50 she said Debo please explain explain your matchups with Joe Thomas my husband tried to offer me a necklace for your jersey I told him I would purchase one he pouting like a baby Even my teddy bear named Troy that has a 43 onesie is tripping Thank you. The matchups with Joe, Joe Thomas. Joe was a very, he was very technical. He had good feet and he was able to withstand a bull rush. So that was the big thing with Joe is he had good feet. and he was able to withstand a bull rush. So that's why it was difficult to get sacks on him when he was actually in his prime and doing the things that he did. I think only, man, maybe, what time did he come in? 2006, 2007? 2006, six or seven. Yeah, six or seven, yeah. So yeah, that's what made him difficult. But other than the pass game, that was it. Like, run game, I ain't really worried about nobody on the run blocking. Like, that's what I do. Like, ain't no running this way. Ain't no coming around here. All that other stuff. Like, y'all take that over there. Y'all used to say, hey, man, y'all take that shit over there to Woodley, man. Y'all go ahead and run over there. Ain't nothing happening over here. I love it. I love it. You gave my man Joe Tease the respect, the bull rush. Oh, no question. Dude, dude, I would literally, I would literally, I would bull rush this dude. for like a whole half or three quarters, bro. And just bull rush, bull rush, bull rush. And hoping that he go set heavy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, so what I would do is I had a bull rush and I had a bull rush that looked, it looked like I was going to bull rush, but I wouldn't bull. And I would slap, grab your arm and hook around. Yeah. It was the same move on the same step. So if a guy, after that first bull rush, he would the next time he would set heavy and hard i'd be like okay i got him joe wouldn't set heavy and hard that often so that's why it was hard because he was able to take that bull rush without right he was able to whip right without having to set heavy and hard come on so when you get a guy like that like i'm just like i mean you can you have a i think one time where he's talking about it and a thing and he's like he's just headbutting me, headbutting head. That's what I'm doing. I'm just getting you set so that you, at some point you're going to get tired of me hitting you in your head. Boom, boom, boom. And you're going to be like uh, let me stop. As soon as they do that, I'm uh. That's that, you sound like that Marshawn, you keep hitting him in the face over and over, over again. I'm like, you're trying, that's a will thing, bro. You keep hitting the man in his face repeatedly, he's going to eventually start folding and start doing different things and that's when you setting them up the whole time but yep that's wild oh yeah for sure man like that's just that's just that's just what it is brother we got another one we got American Assassin 001 $10 he said what do you guys think about going out and signing Tyler Boyd he is a Pittsburgh native and played college for the Pitt Panthers what do you think of that what year is it for Tyler school man he been in the league let me check how long he been in he 31 I'm not mad at it I like Tyler I like him but I just I'm trying to get us younger I'm with you we're at that point where I think we need solid player for sure but not for us yeah for sure covenant life back ten dollars she said i just broke out in highs here and joe talk about the browns just when i think it's all well shake my head debo is held debo is held today whoo i'm weak she said the internet don't even want to hear about the pound puppies. Puppy piles, sorry. Puppy piles. I'm going to let you slide. They do. It's all good. My internet went out. It zapped out for a second. I mean, it's just like the team used to pay for it. They just zap out. Things seem to be going well and all of a sudden they just zap out. She said earlier exactly what she felt. Oh, it makes me sick to my stomach. The Browns are going to be so good this year. Now she won't come back can say that. So you already, I'm believing the first one covered it. You just, you just. Oh, well, I'm going to come back with another covenant came back with another one. $10. She said, um, Joe's necklace is blocking his connection. Devo, where your dogs? Um, we need to, she said, we need, we need look and see Joe Peter really had a problem with you. Are you a dog person? Be careful. with your response. Who is Joe Peter? Oh, you Joe. I'm a dog person. You a dog person. Oh, yeah. I had dogs when I was a kid. You're not a dog person. I'm not the craziest dog person. I don't not like dogs. If people have dogs, I'm all for it. You scared of dogs, though. Yes, I got chased by dogs. I got bit by a dog. So I definitely have... I got chased by dogs. I got bit by a dog. That don't make me dislike all dogs. I just didn't like that dog. Why do you keep saying that I dislike dogs? I don't say that I dislike dogs. Well, you like mutts. No, I'm just saying. Like browns, dog cows. Like those dogs, D-A-W-G. I love dogs so much. I love dogs so much that I don't have enough time to give it the care that the dog deserves. I got these children that I'm trying to handle. I'm raising my kids. The kids can take care of them. The kids ain't doing nothing. When I got the dogs, I was walking the dogs. I was feeding the dogs. And they want to talk about... You got rid of the dogs. See, there you go again. I got the dogs and I gave them to a better... Joe, answer the question. Lord, did you get rid of the dogs? Yes, I did get rid of the dogs, but to a good family. Not just anywhere. a good family. Oh, just because you didn't throw them out in the middle of the highway in a trash bag, you feel like you're justified. You're feeling justified, huh? I gave them to a good family. I just wasn't responsible enough and man enough to take care of little puppies that needed me. All right. All I can tell you is this. I just, you can't, people just mad at me. If you have a dog, Guess what? I love you. Hopefully I love your dog. Hopefully his training don't come up here and try to bite me. You got a cool dog? What's up, dog? You good? Boom. Alright, I'll come pet your dog. If you don't want me to pet your dog, won't pet your dog. Is the dog petable, dog? I'll do it. But be mad at me because I'm not just walking around feeding and taking care. I love a dog so much that I know he needs that tender love and care. I'm moving and shaking. I'm running around. I'm trying to do Deebo and Joe. Dog right here, right now. Yeah, you training. Dogs need training, like children. I already got two kids. Oh, oh. And I'm training, and I'm loving my children. So you love the dogs so much you couldn't have them, but not the kids. I got to have my kids. Yes, my children. My children. Am I messed up to say that I love dogs? I thought you loved the dogs so much you just couldn't do it. The world's so crazy that you can't love your children more than dogs? I'm just saying. You said you love the dogs so much. You couldn't, you know, you just, I know it. Like, Joe. They didn't come from my wife. They did not come from my wife. That is not my seed. Oh, so I got to go tell Sarah that she needs a dog. Oh, I'm going to send a dog over there. Did this really just happen? Did the Chiefs just get Kenneth Gainwell? because if they did, if they did, that's how you make moves. What they giving? They got Kenneth Walker, brother. That's what I'm saying. Kenneth Walker, the running back. I thought you said Gainwell. It's Kenneth Walker. My bad, my bad. Chiefs got Kenneth Walker. That's fire. That's what team, you know, Chiefs doing what they, all they do is take time. He's going to come back. Travis is going to come back. He's going to come back. Yes. Travis is going to come back. Because he's like, oh, my team wants to win. They're going to get people like Gainway. I mean, like Walker. Walker, yeah. You keep saying Gainway. I love Gainway. His game is so good. Yeah, you're trying to throw him away and give him away. I'm not throwing him away. I'm trying to put him on a great team. I was trying to put him in a great situation. Listen, what I'm trying to do is get him back. Hope there's nobody getting him back. And we can get him back. his selfish desires around here, Joe. You funny. You funny. I gotta remember that. I try to stay objective. I'm just telling you, I can see it from both sides. I want him to go get that bag. The brother want me to go get that bag. The still a fan want me to go ahead and make sure he stay here. And see, That's the problem with a fan and a brother. A fan only want what's good for the team. They don't care about the actual brother. No. Because he's a piece of their team. They're all puzzle pieces. All puzzle pieces. All to be replaced. A little dollar sign. It's like, hold on. Salary cap. Get him out of here. Hey, he hitting the cap? Get him out of here. What's that boy's number? Get him out of here. What it is? How much we save? 13? Get him out of here. get him up out of here come on some space to the cap that's the man that won't get what we need you had dinner with the other day bump that bump that cap space yes look here brother man we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe please make sure you like subscribe and download the show we'll be right back here tomorrow. Top of the show with Le'Veon Bell. We're going to find out what the really real was. You know what I'm saying? Yo, we'll be here tomorrow. Catch it same time, same place with El Bell. Let's get it. Yo. Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live in South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it, all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think and hope that's a good thing. Get to know Ego. Follow Thanks Dad with Ego Wodum and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. You desire in family, like, this picture, and that's not reality. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life, and I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.