03/19/26 β HIGHLIGHTS of Brown Bag Mornings: Ray J Goes Off π€ & Pastor WWE Sermon π
35 min
β’Mar 19, 20262 months agoSummary
Brown Bag Mornings highlights include a viral story about a woman who salvaged the Oscar red carpet from dumpsters, Ray J's angry response to rumors about his sister Brandi, a WWE-style church sermon going viral, and a major investigation revealing sexual abuse allegations against Cesar Chavez by co-founder Dolores Huerta.
Insights
- Social media and viral moments drive engagement and conversation around everyday people finding creative solutions to consumer problems
- Celebrity family drama and relationship narratives continue to dominate entertainment discourse and generate significant online backlash
- Religious institutions are modernizing their approach to engagement through passionate, theatrical preaching styles to attract younger audiences
- Historical figures and cultural icons face reckoning when abuse allegations emerge, requiring communities to balance legacy with accountability
- Victims of abuse often remain silent for decades due to power dynamics, institutional loyalty, and fear of undermining larger movements they support
Trends
Dumpster diving and sustainable fashion/home goods sourcing gaining social media traction as cost-conscious and eco-friendly alternativeCelebrity family feuds and relationship disputes weaponized through social media callouts and streaming platforms for audience engagementCharismatic, high-energy religious services with multilingual translation becoming viral content and attracting non-traditional congregantsInstitutional accountability for historical figures accelerating through investigative journalism and survivor testimony despite decades of silenceBystander complicity and 'bro code' culture being publicly examined as barrier to accountability in male-dominated organizationsCo-parenting dynamics and relationship reconciliation becoming common relationship dilemma topics in call-in radio segmentsSurvivor advocacy and #MeToo-adjacent movements expanding to include historical figures and cultural icons previously considered untouchable
Topics
Oscar red carpet sustainability and wasteCelebrity family feuds and social media dramaRay J and Brandi Norwood relationship rumorsViral church sermons and religious engagementCesar Chavez sexual abuse allegationsDolores Huerta survivor testimonyUnited Farm Workers movement historyInstitutional cover-up of abuseBystander complicity in organizationsCo-parenting relationship dynamicsCall-in relationship adviceDumpster diving and consumer cultureMultilingual religious servicesHistorical figure accountabilityVictim silence and power dynamics
Companies
New York Times
Conducted multi-year investigation revealing sexual abuse allegations against Cesar Chavez with interviews from 60 pe...
United Farm Workers of America
Labor organization co-founded by Cesar Chavez and Dolores Huerta; issued statement supporting abuse survivors
Out Grove Church
Northern California church gaining viral attention for passionate, WWE-style sermon delivery with Spanish translation
El Capitan Theater
Location where woman found discarded Oscar red carpet in dumpsters after Academy Awards ceremony
Power 106
Radio station broadcasting Brown Bag Mornings show
Toyota
Sponsor of Chis Mation segment on the show
People
Dolores Huerta
Came forward after 60 years to reveal sexual abuse by Cesar Chavez in New York Times investigation
Cesar Chavez
Subject of sexual abuse allegations from multiple women including co-founder Dolores Huerta
Ray J
Responded angrily on livestream to rumors about his sister Brandi dating multiple rappers simultaneously
Brandi Norwood
Subject of dating rumors involving rappers Mace and Shine; releasing book 'Faces' to tell her own story
Shine
Rapper who repeatedly claimed dating Brandi Norwood in the 1990s; trolled Ray J with Instagram post
Mace
Rapper allegedly involved in relationship with Brandi Norwood; did not publicly rebuke Shine's claims
Paige Thalia
Woman who salvaged Oscar red carpet from dumpsters behind El Capitan Theater for apartment flooring
Cameron
Podcast host who initially brought up relationship rumors about Brandi Norwood, Mace, and Shine
Quotes
"I will not tolerate it and neither will LA. Bloods, crypts, essays, smokers, crackheads, on Figaroa, everybody, the agency always talked about something, about something."
Ray Jβ’Mid-episode
"The first time I was manipulated and pressured into having intercourse with him. And I didn't feel I could say no because he was someone that I admired my boss and the leader of the movement I had already devoted years of my life to."
Dolores Huertaβ’Late episode
"There's literally no right way or time. And guess what? If she did, sometimes people would cover. Hey, no, he's just like that. You're tripping."
Hostβ’Late episode
"If you spoke your way to a cursing, you can also speak your way to a blessing."
Pastor at Out Grove Churchβ’Mid-episode
"She stayed silent for 60 years to protect the farm worker movement."
Hostβ’Late episode
Full Transcript
Highlights of Brown Bag. What's up? This is B-Rail from Cypress Hill. Where are you from, Esse? Don't you know I'm local? The Oscars just went down last Sunday. But man, I wish I knew and was as smart as this woman. What she did after the Oscars, oh my gosh, to her carpet? What? This woman's carpet. Wait, wait, what's going on? Did they match the drapes? Yeah, I was about to say. But this young woman named Paige Thalia, she had moved into a new apartment and was looking for carpets for her apartment. She said, dude, like the one that I had and that I wanted for my sala, my living room was like about 500 bucks. But she remembered a couple years ago that she saw after the Oscars they would throw away the red carpet, which is 900 feet long and 33 feet wide. They cut it up and they throw it away. So she went searching for it on Monday and she's just so smart. She went searching for it on Monday and found the carpet being thrown away in dumpsters behind the El Capitan Theater and she got her hands on it. Check this out. And I walked up to one of the security guards there's a bunch of people around and I just said, I have an insane question. Can I have some of that red carpet? And she said, yeah, go for it. So you think this is where like Michael B. Jordan and Timothy Chalamet stood on Sunday night? One can hope. All right, now I'm going to tell you right now. The carpet looks a little projective. Okay, that's it. No, no, no, because they, I don't know what they cut the carpet to it, but it's just tears. Like, because they have to make this thing fit. It's 900 feet long. That's to make it fit in the dumpsters. So they're just cutting it in like oblong shapes. Like it's just like, it looks kind of like wavy. It's not like a perfect square or rectangle for her apartment, but it's still the red carpet from the Oscars. Yeah, that's so cool. Check out the video. Brownback Morning is 106 on Instagram. She is receiving a little bit of backlash because she's doing the interview with the news station, the Scalsa. Like she has barefoot on the red carpet. And it's like, but I don't know. Well, we never know. Maybe she washed it already. I don't know. Maybe. I wash a carpet. That's a super hipster. That's so cool. Very hipster. Just like I look, bro. 2026 red carpet. Timothy Chalamet was right here. Or like, I need a carpet. Very resourceful. Let me go. That's my thing. Which is a thing. I don't know if you've ever done. I remember doing it when I was little with our nanny. Ugly carpet. It's red, bro. That's ugly. It's nice. It's legendary. You walk into somebody's house and they have red carpet. It's not a red carpet. It's the red carpet. The red carpet. Yeah. Exactly that. Come on. And just for your sake, because you probably never bought a carpet. I have. For my studio. Okay. Do you know how expensive they are? Yes. Very expensive. Exactly. Yeah. So even like that square footage or whatever, like she got that she got it to fit her apartment. That's, that's a win. A win is a win, brother. Free is free. Ugly. All right. You guys ever dumpster dive? No. My nanny used to take us dumpster diving when we were little. Listen, you know that would take care of us. And she would throw us into the dumpster and she's like, what are you buying? What'd you find? It would be for her. We'd like never kept the things. Oh, damn. But she had to work it. Yeah, it was tight. Leticia, did your dad know or your mom? I don't know. I can ask them. Yeah. I never did, but it seems kind of fun. My mom said she always found Barbies in there when she was a kid and she would dumpster dive. The key is going to places that like, you know, like they have to throw away things that are really good, but they have to throw them away. Oh, okay. Okay. We would go like a paper company for some reason, like because it's like things in back six. You were stealing social security numbers. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. That's what it was. She did disappear. Official documents. She did disappear after that. Zulu, come here. Now what's going on? She's Mation with Angie. Okay. You know how yesterday I was talking about how Cameron was being messy again, talking about how Mace and Shine dated Brandi at the same time in the nineties, right? Yeah. All OG rappers kids, by the way. Yes. So apparently Rage actually heard that and he is not having it because he actually responded and he's mad. Brandi is his sister and he's mad about it. Listen, I will not tolerate it and neither will LA. Bloods, crypts, essays, smokers, crackheads, on Figaroa, everybody, the agency always talked about something, about something. You clowns, Cameron looking like he fresh off a stroke. This fool went a lot on his stream and he was just calling them out. He kept saying other things. Yeah. That I cannot disclose. Okay. Yeah, disclose. But this fool, I was just thinking, okay, I thought you were sick and you were dying. Like why are you on stream and talking about all this stuff? He is though. I don't know, let me, the way that he's talking about like. You can be sick and threaten people. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. But I feel like all the people he got involved aren't going to get involved. He just, he signed a bunch of people up for war. I'm like, wait, hold on. Yeah. Yes, he's, what do they have to do with this? He said, I love Brandi, by the way. She is vibes. Oh no. Yeah. She's incredible. But yeah. They're talking to back about Brandi putting like, I guess bodies on her name and, and trying to make it like a whole weird love triangle thing. Yeah. Shine and Mace, both, I guess at the same time, we're dating her reportedly. Talking to them. Shine has been saying that story over and over again. Like in past interviews, he keeps saying that. And so after Raja responded, Shine actually clapped back with a post on his Instagram with the picture of himself, Brandi and Raja using Raja's I Hit It First song. So he's just trolling him at this point. Poor Brandi. I know. But also like, okay, Shine, cool rapper, you know what I'm saying? Mace, you know, he was on top of the world. You know what I'm saying? It's like, no shame in like if you dated those people in your 20s, like that's not even anything that really get upset about. For who? Yeah, for her. What? No, okay. No, no, no. It's getting upset that they're trying to say this at the same time and we know how people make women out to be when that happens. Because no one's looking at her like, dang, she's a player. Just let this be a story where it's like, oh yeah, one guy dated two bad girls in the 90s. Oh, you're a player. Right now it's like, they're looking like she's a threelfold. Yeah. I'm not looking at her any differently. No, not you, but people are. I see quite a bit that they're making a scene. So much that actually Brandi responded back and said, put out a shine on Blase and like I had a platonic friendship with Shine. And because of this, now she's actually promoting a book called Faces that she's releasing later this month saying like, you know what? I always say, I always say quiet things like that. But this time like I'm going to tell my truth because people are just saying things about me. They're telling stories for me. Let me say it myself. Okay, well, if she's going to lie, I don't want to read it. Be 100% honest, Brandi. 100%. About what? If she's going to say that they were just friends what they never dated, they're like, come on. Why is that a lie? Why are we not believing her? If she's lying. Because why would they lie? And that's why people stay quiet. Why would they lie? She's literally saying. Why would they lie? Oh my God. So many people are lying. They're lying. Oh my God. So many reasons. Why would they lie? So many reasons to be relevant to getting headlines because men lie about things like this. Y'all have seen it. So you're saying that Shine went on 30 podcasts and lied to every single person he came across about dealing with Brandi in the 90s. And you're saying that Brandi's lying about it. She has reason to be like, I wouldn't if I was her. I'd be like, yes, so what? Get over it. That's wrong. How is that crazy? How is that crazy? She dated two stars in her heyday. Well, she was a huge star. We don't know because of her. That's nothing to be ashamed of. My thing is like, let her say it. I'm not going to discredit what she has said before she's even said it. She already said they were friends. Then let that be it. We're going to believe that. Yes, because she's literally saying. I will believe that. Greg, are you going to believe that? I'm going to believe it. Angie? Yes. Yeah, man. I'm not going to put nothing on her name. No, no. There's a whole time the only one that's actually been talking and talking about it has only been Shine. And this, like they're just laughing about it and Brandi stayed quiet. And that's what happens to women a lot and as reason why women don't speak out until years later and then men are like, why don't you say it there? Okay, so answer this. Why did Mace not rebuke anything he said when he's sitting right there in front of him? He said, bro, you never dated her. What are you talking about? He would have known he was dating her too. I never. He was just laughing. That's not on me. That's not on me. Why a man will not call out another man. Yeah, that's on them. That's on them. If they're lying. Hey, it happens all the time. Oh my God. I don't know about other men all the time. All the time. Hey, I'm gonna stay out of this, bro. I'm gonna let you say whatever you gotta say. I'm gonna stay out of this whether you're right or wrong. They're just laughing. It's called bro code. That part. See? All right. Scrolling with the homies. The next time you go to church, you might want to bring your tables and chairs with you because it might turn into a WWE match. A church? At church. Hey, that'll make a lot of people go nine on nine. Get the tables. There is a church going viral. Their name is Out Grove Church. They're in the North Cal area, like the Bay Area. And they have a pastor super passionate, super dedicated to his job. You know, they're very like rah rah rah rah. But the translator, he just made everything better. Oh, why is it another language? It is in another language. He's yelling everything in Spanish. And I was like, yo, I'm ready for a lucha fight right now. Listen to this. Lucha for the Lord. You didn't get it. I'm going over on this side. No lo recibiΓ³. Me voy a venir a este lado. If you spoke your way to a cursing, you can also speak your way to a blessing. I wish I had a crazy folk. Let the yinni say I'm blessed. I'm delivered. I'm set free. I just want to tell you. I'm ready. Yeah. You need to go to church more. A lot of churches are like this now with the translation in Spanish, but a lot of churches get into that. I've been told that. And like, you know, I'm not a big fan of church, like because I just fall asleep a lot. But a lot of people are like, yo, you should go because they've changed a lot now. Yeah. That they're very just like, yeah, we we push you more than just trying to think they judge a lot there. I feel judge when I go. You judge everywhere. We're judging you right now. I don't think they're going to judge you there. Play a little bit again. You didn't get it. I'm going over on this. I'm going to go. If you spoke your way to a cursing, you wouldn't say if you smell what the rock is cooking. I know. If you smell what the Lord is cooking. I feel riled up. Let's fight some demons. It's up in NorCal. Yeah, it's up in NorCal. Miles Minney came out after a whole contest. It's called Elgrove. The city is called Elgrove. It's a small town. Okay. Turn up. Anything that gets you to church, I'm all for it. I was saying I send Greg church memes. All you do videos like, hey, there's a better life for you, my friend. Yeah. Thanks, Greg. Let's get into the weather with concrete. And now the weather with concrete storm. But it is going off for the weather Thursday, March 19th. The first were off to the magical city of Anaheim where Angie calls it anacrime. 93 degrees and 63 at night. Next we chacha slide to the city of Santa Fe Springs where O.G. Homies dance and pull a hamstring. 94 degrees and 67 at night. Now we push over to the city of Ahambra where your catalytic converter disappears like Abra Kadabra. 94 and 68 degrees at night. Lastly, we hit the city of Silmar, a place where our very own Lethy became a real mom. 95 and 70 degrees at night. But it was like I said, keep your waters nice and cold, man. It's going to be hot again today. Again today. But it's your boy Conker Robon back mornings or power 106. Let's go. All right. Check this out. Homie. Need a homie or need some help? We need your help. We need a line. I mean phone line. We got you, phone. The homie helpline. Fern needs our help. Oh, Fern. All right. Fern first hit us up about a month ago and he said, hey, brown bag, I'm going on vacation with my baby mama and my kids and I don't know what my girl will say about this. Should I uninvite my baby mama to save my new relationship? Then a month later, say he just hit us up and said that he broke up with the new girl and is now back with the baby mama. And now he needs our help. He's wondering if he is making a mistake by getting back with his baby mama or if he should keep the good feelings going with his family. Yeah, Johnny and South LA. What's up, Johnny? Good morning, Johnny. Johnny. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Johnny to get back or not to get back with baby mama. That is the question that our guy Fern is asking us. Wow, back with her. So go ahead. You let him know. No, don't do it. Save y'all both the trouble and save y'all both the future headaches because while everything good right now, as soon as y'all open them doors, the little arguments is going to turn into big arguments because you already got a fake path. So like it is going to remind her about what you used to do, how you used to move, like the little small things and it's just, it's only going to crash out. It's not going to be good for me like 30 days, but soon as the love and everything get emotional, it's going to be over with. Tony also in South LA, South LA knows a lot about this parent. At least Tony talked to us. What would you tell friend? He wants to know whether he should get back or not get back with this baby mama. They were separate or they were broken up for four years. It seems they were co-parenting well and now it seems like he's trying to, I don't know, run it back with her. What do you say? Good morning. I just want to say I love you guys. I love you back Tony. Thanks Tony. Oh my God. My kids love you guys. On the weekends they get so mad like, we want to listen to roundbacks. I have to like get a podcast thing going. What a great mom. What a great mom Tony. Talk to us. Hey what's up? I'm a little cutie. Hi, baby girl. What's up? What's your name? Yeah. Their name is Augustine Cavani. Let's go. Good morning. Good morning. Talk to us Tony. What would you tell them? Yes. I'd say get back with your baby mama. Yeah, I'd say time to part and I kind of went through that situation before and sometimes separation brings you guys closer. The only thing is when you guys get back together you guys got to work out the stuff that you just went through first. So maybe go to like some kind of counseling just to get that stuff out the way so you guys can start fresh. Yeah, like don't go back together and think it's a whole new relationship. You're the same person and you got to work out the kinks like because they will arise again. That's why they're on a 365 day trial. They're on a trial. That's crazy. So go to counseling. Yeah, go to counseling. True in that trial. Yeah. Let's go wrong with that. Really give it that effort. I think he has to make sure that she didn't just want him back because he got a new girl. I think that's important. We don't care about no new girl because that's the truth. There you go. What do you mean? Yes, you do. She's telling her truth. Oh my God. She's telling her truth. She's telling her truth. We don't care about the new girl. We carry your kid. That's something different. We're always gonna have ties. These new people come and go. Tony, is your partner... Are you still with your partner or are you separated? We are co-parenting. Alright. Kind of like what they're doing. Like the co-parenting is trying to see where it goes from there. And you don't care if he dates another woman. Oh, there's no dating another woman. Oh! Alright. Let's go to Blue in Long Beach. Blue, what's up, Blue? Good morning. Hey, what's up, guys? Good morning. Blue, type to us. What would you tell Fern? Fern is trying to figure out whether his decision to get back with his baby mama after they've been separated for years to get back with her is the right decision. He really didn't give us too much more information. Like I wish I knew more from this fool. Alright, that's what he just wants your guys to take, to get back with her or not get back with her. My personal opinion is he needs to check both of them, their level of maturity, because I feel that at first they're going to go through a honeymoon stage, and then after that all the ghosts, all the things in the closet are going to come out, for example, like the hookups that they had or things that say for example he did or she did that might maybe cause drama in the relationship at first. It might be beautiful and all, you know, glorious, let's say. I say this because I went through this. I split up with my baby mama for like about four years, then I got back with her. And everything was all good. You know, we have the kids, we're a family. And then I came later to find out that she was holding all these lies, like very, very messed up things that happened. And I would say that I wasn't mature enough to withstand that. And it hurt, not going to lie, it hurt to find out all the stuff that she did. And she was still doing actually. Damn. So, I think it all depends on them, on them and if they're honest with each other, I think honesty is the best policy and if they keep it real with each other, if they sit down and talk about, you know, what has happened while they were not together and if they can come to an agreement, then go for it, you know, if they accept it. If something doesn't click, I say don't go for it. That's my opinion. But does that really matter though? Does that really matter because they weren't together? So, how does the other right to say it? Say what? Like bringing up all that type of stuff that when they were hooking up with other people when they weren't together. Yeah, because we're people. It's still like your past. It's going to still affect you. It still affects you to this day if like your ex be doing something. See it depends on, but you know, like it still affects you to this day. We're not together though. But if you were to get back together. You don't want to know, but if you found out it would hurt you. You would bring it up. Yeah, it's like what Vick said, like, like you don't want to know, but deep down inside, like, I mean, I don't think any man wants to know or see, like in my case, for example, I think for myself, I didn't want to see certain pictures that were sent to me or know of certain things that she was doing. I guess people that she was hooked up with while we were not together. So she was still hooking up with them. They were hating on their dirty mac in. Yeah. Yeah, they were like basically, yeah, they were literally telling me, Hey, did your wife do this with you and then send me down? No, that's a different level. That's like a different level. I swear, man, I had to go to therapy for that. And you said like you couldn't get over that knowing like it was Grannish while she did that when you all weren't together, it affected you when you were with her and you couldn't get past that. You don't now want to see your ex getting slapped. I mean, or your partner getting clapped. That was sent to you. I visually saw these pictures. They were sent to me. That is terrible. And she knew she knew about this and she did not tell me about she knew she knew you guys were getting close and she didn't tell you exactly. Oh, that's. These are the things that I'm trying to like what's the thing? I'm sorry. What's the guy's name? Fern Fern. Yeah. Fern Fern. Think about all these things. If you're going to be okay with with with all these things that come out of this. Yeah. Yeah. Or just the things that happened in the past. You know, think about all the threesomes she's had in those four years. Think about all the threesomes with the homies and that could come back to haunt you. You know what she never did that with me actually. Yeah. And that's what that's what our guy is saying. That's a blue saying like they hit him up like she ever do this for you, bro. No, no, no. By the way, that's whatever they did is just as bad as what she did. Yeah. Yeah. Because that stuff is like revenge P and all of that. Oh, yeah. My revenge is right now. It's going to therapy. So when you go to therapy, you don't need to be just like reciting the trauma. Yeah. Please take blues advice. Right. That's right. You're listening to young jock in the streets morning take over now available as a podcast hosted by me young jock your favorite cousin and miss shot and he could plus shot a shot as we dive into a world of engage in statements like today dilemma. So you like a guy from the refer side of tracks like you want to talk. Yeah, get me. Yeah. So what you like for a day? Come on. That's what you like for a day? Wait, no, no. Did you hear that? No, did you hear that? That's what you like. I mean every once in a while they don't be mean in it. Jerry with a G. Are you there? Yes, I'm here. Call her a she might like you a little better. Okay, let me see it. Well, take your back to the him. It's not pretty natural. You try to still sound like it with the G but. Don't miss out on the fun and the entertainment with your favorite cousin me young jock tune in to young jock in the streets morning take over available now on your favorite podcast platform. Come here. Now what's going on? She's Mation with Angie. Yes, let the you are right because right now it isn't we're getting into some serious stuff coming out about says that Travis Amanda, a lot of people do did look up to him. But now his right hand woman Dolores Warte is coming out. What? What? Sorry. And saying things like that he actually abused her against her will in the 60s. Oh man. This is all part of a New York Times investigation where they took different reports from different other people that have accused him of things of this similar nature happening to minors and to women against their will neither is okay. E both are equally as evil and they interviewed 60 people corroborated evidence. They have emails and all of that because New York Times cannot drop something like this without being credible knowing what a figure says are Chavez the head of the United Farm Workers of America what he is and what he means to Latinos and Mexican Americans all over. Okay, so yes Dolores Querta was part of that investigation. She was. Yeah. And so she was saying, you know, she stayed silent for 60 years to protect the farm worker movement. And you're right that she didn't mention that the reason that she came out and really spoke about it because New York Times was doing a multi year investigation and was just revealing like different accusations. Right. And I didn't want to read like because she did put out a statement and I didn't want to share like a part that really stood out for me when she's talking about the times that she was abused by Cesar Chavez. She says the first time I was manipulated and pressured into having intercourse with him. And I didn't feel I could say no because he was someone that I admired my boss and the leader of the movement I had already devoted years of my life to. She then goes on to talk about the second time. She's like the second time I was forced against my will and in an environment where I felt trapped. And then from these two incidents, she actually did get pregnant and she decided to keep the babies but she gave them up. And then she goes on to say, you know what, I was very fortunate to develop a deep relationship with these children who are my kids, of course, and they're also really close to my other kids. Wow. It's a hard decision, man. That's so crazy. I mean, just to think about that time, you know, the 60s, you know, women were not at all like, you know, had like, you know, similar like rights or even just like anything close to what they have now, you know, there was no me too. There was no me too movement or anything like that, right? And to, you know, also her life's work was making life better for the United Farm Workers and things like that. And for the, you know, to take him down would have been to take down the entire organization down near, especially at that time when it was so essential. A lot of people would have been affected. So she just kind of sat on that and kept it to herself and, you know, suffered in silence. That's so tragic to know that now she's 95. And it's not like she came out and wanted to say something like, all right, now I'm going to air all this out. No, she was asked, you know, and she was just being honest and sharing her truth. And then now there's like people describing her and stuff like that. Yeah, we appreciate Dolores Huerta for her work period because a lot of what the movement is is also her, if you've ever said the phrase, si se puede, that comes from Dolores Huerta. All right. So let's also not erase the things that she's done for that moment specifically. She wasn't this full assistant. She wasn't this full secretary. She was for show not this girls, this full sidekick. She was right there within the movement. Co-founder. You know, I will push back on like that. No one knew or all of these things because as we're finding, it happens a lot. Unfortunately, we're seeing it here. It happens all the time. It happens in different circles, whether it might not be this magnitude where something happens to a woman and other people cover for that said thing or she feels like she cannot come out and say something because there would be no right time to say something. That's what I'm seeing. That's unfortunate when I'm seeing backlash against her, which I don't even want to, like I didn't even want to mention. Yeah. I wanted to be about that, but it's like there would have been no right time for her to come out. If she came out the next day, y'all would cover. If she came out a year, why'd you come out of here? If she came out like, if she wanted this song, she, there's literally no right way or time. And guess what? If she did, sometimes people would cover. Hey, no, he's just like that. You're tripping that first time when she mentions that she felt manipulated. I guess what? If she were to say something, you wanted it. You didn't say no. Why didn't you leave? Why didn't you do that? I'm understanding people go through fight, flight, and situations in that some people freeze. Some people fawn, which means that you try to get on the good side of your abuser in order to not let that happen to the worst degree. All of these things are scientifically proven, right? So then we go at these victims and we say, why didn't you do this or how come you did this? And it's not, instead of saying, Hey, that fool, why did you do, you do this? You know, in these records and in the New York Times reporting, it says how it was covered up by a lot of other people that there was rumblings of the way that he was. And people knew that he would be this way to younger women around. And it's like, then why turned away? Why are we asking those schools of those 60 people interviewed? I'm sure a lot of them were guys because there weren't that many women on in this, in this union, right? So I'm sure there's part of that is like, damn, I feel complicit. I feel like I can't say anything because, Hey, that's my boy because bro code because we got, we can't say because I did stuff too. So why, like there's all these different dynamics and it's just insane to feel that it's 96 year old woman is being labeled a certain way because she has felt inclined in her spirit as she's probably about to pass away soon inclined in her spirit to help this from happening again. My heart goes out to young girls and I hope that young men listening and just in the world are as protective as they, as these young girls deserve. No, it's not your job. No, it's not your right. But I do hope you see that women need that women need allies. And so now that she's coming up to say those things, it's really important that we just shut up and listen, listen to these things. Yeah. Unfortunately, he's not here to deal with the repercussions of what he's done. Right. But it's not lost on me that he's had hella babies. Like these kids are not the only ones that he has outside of his marriage. You know, those things are documented. You know, we've had his grandson in here and his grandson had made sure like, hey, yeah, as much as we talk about him, let's also talk about my grandma. Yeah. The wife of Cesar Chavez who was there for their kids while everything was happening. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it's more than just maybe a promiscuous fool. It's more than that. It's more than, oh yeah, you know, men will be men and like, oh, they're just cheating or whatever. No, it's just a side piece. No, these are against people's wills and these are young girls. Yeah. Because after this, like there has been other women coming forward, Leti, and then there has been like, they're going to be called cloud chasers. Yeah. No, but the ones that stood out are the ones that were underage at the time. There was like a 13 year old and she's saying that, you know what, when that happened, he told me don't tell anyone because they're going to be jealous. Oh my God. Yeah. Disgusting. Disgusting, manipulative, everything. In it's so frustrating, you know, as Latino, we don't have too many people to look up to, you know, and have like a national holiday, you know, named after him and so many streets. You know, everybody's, you know, been on Cesar Chavez, you know, Boulevard, whatever, all these things that are like, you just grow up like in LA speaking for myself. It's like, oh, who's that? Why is this street named after him? Oh, he was a great man that did all these things to find out that he was a terrible person. Disgusting. He's a representative of our community. It makes me sick to my stomach because like, damn, who do we even have left? I don't ever want to see Cesar Chavez, nothing anymore. And I know like right now you guys mentioned earlier, Vic and Greg, that some of his statues are being covered. I know even you some right now is saying like, you know what, like this is his day is coming up March 31. I know it's like next week. Like do we celebrate it? And I know like the union itself is saying like, you know what, we're not going to celebrate anything like that. Yeah. His family has said something. Yeah. This family really sustainment. They did. And then they pretty much said, we wish peace and healing to the survivors and commander courage to come forward as the family steeped in values and equity and justice. We honor the voices of those who feel unheard and who report abuse. Do you see that that is not going at Dolores? Do you see that? That not even the family is defending him, not even the union is defending him. So please, I just would like you to take that second thought before you're like, yeah, well, they're just trying to bring this brown man down that you understand that not even the people closest to him are denying that this happened. Instead, they are uplifting the people that are speaking out about it. So again, let's just take a step back and allow them their space because this is a moment for them because they've sat with this. There's countless women, umpteenth thousand trillion women that stay quiet. And if this the way we handle this, if we handle this right, it can help a young girl that goes through something not stay quiet because an older man is telling her, hey, they're going to get jealous. Don't say anything or no one's going to believe you or, or hey, you wanted this that helps out in that way shape or form. Let's be the allies. We preach so much that we supposedly are. Let's be that please. Yeah, you scrub if you go against that. That's why I got to say, I feel the same way. And I don't want this. Yeah. I don't want to go against that. Like how can you even process that in your mind? It's an issue. You are a big scrubs. And I know the main complaint is like he's not here to defend himself. We have a full right now. That's the president. Yeah. That people have said the exact same thing. If that was alive, we'd turn our heads the same way we did when he was alive and people were saying these things about him within the circle. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. We will always find another reason why we're not going to do something about it in the present moment. Yeah. You know, do not let this happen this time. Do not let it be us. Yeah. You know, and our love to the Lord has worked. To the family of Cesar Chavez, to his kids, to his grandchildren. They had hella kids and hella grandchildren and to the two kids that unfortunately had to be raised that way that I'm sure have to deal with their own identity issues and things of that nature to everyone that's involved as somebody that is not in that circle but is giving you the respect that's due. You guys lead us. You let us know how you want us to handle this. If they, because in their thing, should things be changed, should schools be renamed, all of that, I would love to see what their take is on this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's a lot of feelings. Yeah, I love to this. Vic, you are totally valid in that, hey, this really, this sucks for us. Let the off. This is not a win. Believe me, I don't think she's going, haha, I'm so happy. I got one over on Cesar on Chavez. Like I don't feel like, like, because we all lose and that's exactly why she hadn't said something for so long. For 60 years, you kept the quiet. Not to like correlate it at any way she performed yesterday. I was at a rally because teachers definitely need to be paid more and I was there supporting SEIU local 99, which are service members in the schools that are the lunch ladies, the crossing guards, the janitors, the people that fix the AC when it's messed up. All those people that aren't like the teachers and the, and the principals supporting them to get better wages and for LA, LUSD to do the right thing and help all these negotiations, go through smoothly, right? And I'm seeing that and I'm seeing how sensitive this situation is where they're in negotiations where let's say something bad that could have happened, could taint it and could make it. So LA was, he's like, no, we're not going to give you what you want. Right? Yeah. And again, it's not the same thing, but I'm seeing this big rally of people and then I'm thinking the farmers and the farmers union, farm workers, excuse me, of America and what they were looking for and the livable wages and the benefits and all of that that they fought for. Should something like this have gotten out? Yeah. Whoever was the governing body that they were trying to negotiate with could just be like, no, like we're not taking you seriously. Yeah. It could have done that. I promise you that seeing how sensitive these little things are and the situations are. Yeah. That's what she kept quiet. She said it herself in the statement and I just think I might do like every time like Cesar Chavez got a recognition and like Dolores was just have to like, yes, they always put them together. Yeah. And she was willing not for nothing. She was willing to go to the grave with it. It wasn't until she saw that this was happening to young girls and she probably felt held a guilt that maybe I could have saved them. Yeah. That's that guilt. And it's just, I want you to know as the victim, it's not your job to save someone else. It's the job of that, the your abuser to have not been that way. Yeah. It's not a do it. It's not on you. Let's not take their wrongs as our sins. Yeah. At all. He should have never done it in the first place. No one would have been there. All right. That was it for Chis Mation. Brought to you guys by your Toyota dealers. I'm Angie from Brown Bag Mornings. I'm Proud 106. And I know that was a lot. It was. We had to get through it. Not for nothing. We're called Brown Bag Mornings. We're a group for Latinos. Yep. We've all been in a Chicano studies class in school period. We've all been able to, we've learned the story and we cannot say and maybe judge other other things of like, oh, you're rewriting history or this person was really like that. Like we can't ish on those figures and not really hold the light in the mirror when it comes to one of ours. Yeah. Highlights of Brown Bag.