Perhaps Our Last Hour on Earth, with Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne

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Can I acknowledge that we were told not to talk right before this, so I had kind of the giddy vibe of a surprise party. Right, and then it was like, shh shh shh shh shh shh shh. And then it was that. Yeah. So I was like getting ready to giggle, and then it was that. Surprise, big bomb sounds. I think this might, this might be the last thing we do together. On this plane. Yeah. But I'll see you in another, in another life, brother. I'll find you guys in every life. I'll find you in every life. I will. Should we just acknowledge the, by the way, Michael Cruz, Kay and Katie Nolan, thank you for being here. Yeah, are we live somewhere? Yeah, I think we are live. Cortez is monitoring the chat. Perique Cortez. What's up, chat? Update us. Hamburger's in the chat. We can play directly to goose the engagement to get this thing. Boost it in the algorithm. Boost, boost it. Hamburger's in the chat. I'm not going to participate in any of that part of it. I'm only, I'm that part only. I'm only responding to chat. No, I like responding to chat. Oh. Telling them to put hamburgers in the chat. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I was convinced to not do the thing I wanted to do with you guys, which is a big investigative scheme of sorts. We're going to table that. Okay. For the time being. Okay. Because we've been told over and over again on this show that we want to activate the EF surround option, Pablo Torre F surround. Yeah. And it happens to be that we chose that option on the day when the president did truth this. Uh-huh. I just want to acknowledge that in some ways this is the worst timing for your friendly neighborhood podcast host. Who wants to read this just to bring the audio audience in when this makes it to the Apple S app. If again, we don't do the thing that the first part of the sentence says a whole civilization will die tonight. Never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. That's my dog, dude. I love that guy. You rules. I don't know. I feel like we've done a good job of going about our days through a lot of stuff recently. We had a pretty good run despite everything. But today, I do think I reached my breaking point. Today, I think when I woke up and I got that push notification, our president logged on to a social media network that only he uses, I think, and said and started a truth with a sentence of a civilization will end tonight. I'm sick. What is going on? Is somebody going to stop it? What are we? I feel crushed under the weight of, we got to do something. But I don't know what it is. I don't understand how we're here. We're not going to spend all of our time talking about this because I don't want to spend the last hour on earth talking about how we need to impeach the president. Thanks for bringing it up, I will say. I do think we should probably impeach this guy. The only thing I want to say about it. The part of that tweet or whatever you call it that I really am fixated on is all caps. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? And I don't want that. Yeah. I don't want that, but it could happen. It's like, this is insane. It is. It is. It's the thing of like, I wanted to zag. And then it was like, I just want the documentary that someone is making about this to not have any ability to avoid the fact that we did acknowledge that we should probably get rid of this guy. Is he talking about someone is making a documentary about this podcast? Oh yeah, there's a documentarian over there. About this? What's happening right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is also titled The Last Dance. There are four astronauts, by the way, on this moon mission. It's cool that they're going to be the only people left. They could come back, like a few people, like Planet of the Apes style, like come back to this planet. And it's all, it's all whatever they're like, when we get back to our home planet and they realize, oh, this is your home planet. Just like in Twilight Zone. Okay. If you say so. Wasn't that in the, I would, I would love to be, now would be the time of any time to be an astronaut. Now would be the time because at least you're out there. Yeah. And yes, you are, you know, your toilet don't work. They fixed it. They fixed it? They fixed it. So they would have to wait for the first few hours, which you would hope they went before they left. You would hope they were like, hey, before we hop in that thing to go around the moon. Everybody pee. You know. And so hopefully they didn't, it wasn't an emergency. They were instructed to pee in bags, which does seem easier for one of the types of astronauts and less easy for the others. But maybe they have a, they must have, by this point, they must have a bag that's a unisex bag or maybe not. Maybe two different bags that work equally well for each. So what's a mechanism you can purchase as a woman to pee outside? Like a little water slide. It's almost like a, it's like a cup, but with a, It's like a whizinator, but for girls. What the hell's that? What's a whizinator? You guys know what the whizinator is? Sound off in the chat if you know what a whizinator is. Hey chat, what's a whizinator? The whizinator is a device that you can purchase. Okay. That was used, I believe, and I, because we're live, I got to Google the athlete's name, who I believe used it. It is in fact, yes, former Minnesota Vikings running back Ontario Smith, who was caught in 2005 at the Minneapolis, St. Paul International Airport with the original whizinator. It's a prosthetic device designed to bypass drug tests. Oh, okay. That's the part I was missing. I was like, what are we talking? I thought it was just a little pee pee looch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a fake penis, a bladder and some hectic urine. No, that's not what I was talking about, but I would like to use that. Actually. It's, it's, I mean, I'll show it to you. We can't. No, thanks. That's fine. You don't have to. So let's get into it. I could if you wanted to. Oh, look, hold on. The whizinator 5000 comes in natural lifelike skin tones, black, brown, Latino, tan and white. Yo, they named him that? That doesn't sound right. They didn't just come up with like a better shade range than most makeup that comes out now. So that's, yeah, Michelangelo Leonardo, Donatello Raphael. So that is, is not what they used. I'm being told in my ear. The chat is saying, did Jordan Hudson ever get around to suing any of the people in that studio? She doesn't, she hasn't even addressed me. I don't think she's ever talked to you. All her animosity, I believe, is pointed toward our friend Pablo, which I do appreciate. Thank you, Queen. Yeah, she's correct about that. Right. We didn't do nothing. We're just here to, I'm a, I'm a bite. I'm just here to go, oh my God. Is that right? Are you kidding? That's what I do. That's what people say on the street. Are you the guy who said, Oh my God, did you ever get sued by Jordan Hudson? Not yet. Again, time, if she's watching, time is money. Yes. I maintain that she would be an excellent guest on this show and would be treated with the utmost respect if she were ever to participate in it. I agree. I sincerely agree. And I'd like to look into the camera. Can we, can we pull me? Yep. There it is. She's calling for his own camera. Jordan Hudson, you're officially invited back onto the show. She knows that. I think she knows that. I don't think she's like, I don't think he'd have me. Did you know that in the 160 years after the civil war, US presidents fired 11 four and five star military officers? And in this first 14 months of Donald Trump, the White House has fired nine of them. So the 11 includes the nine or it's 11 and then nine more. Yeah. Yeah. The second one. Oh, this is a good, this is a good fact checking question. We'll find out. Someone will know someone in the room. In the chat. Can chat fact check whether Donald Trump fired nine of the 11 four and five star military officers in the 160 years after the civil war, or if that number of 11 is non inclusive of his personal, cause it's either like 45% of people or it's like 90% of people, which be the way it's still a lot of the people. But I think the, I was talking about this today with someone, that guy lives in such like a bespoke reality where like we, you know, the siloing of everybody, all of our social media, et cetera. Like he's getting reports that are only the things that people think he wants to hear, as opposed to every prior president who was getting what someone thought was the news. The important thing he's getting like whatever. So he's doing, he's doing the right thing as far as he knows. This reminds me of yet another viewer question that we got recently. Okay. We throw that on the screen. How would you rate the crowd work on at Cruz Keynes new standup special scale of one to 10? This reminded me, I was thinking about this same question. Now, um, you did a little crowd work, a tiny bit, but it wasn't a lot. No, I think, I think, well, I think what this person is referring to is a bit very early on in the show where I say, I'm going, where I ask someone in the audience, I think this was a very significant piece of the show. I asked, I asked someone in the audience what their name is. And at this point, well, do we have the clip? Okay. That's a little heavy. Um, let me lighten it up with some classic comedy stuff like, um, you sir, what's, what's your name? Pablo. Pablo, very good. Uh, that is my crowd work. Uh, so that part is kind of closed. I forgot about that. You didn't, you just played the clip where he says your name. It's absurd the way you feed into what everybody thinks you are. I think I nailed it. It's fucking crazy. I think I nailed that. The setup as well as the dismal. It's crazy. I also say that I did not, I swear to God, did not mean to call on you. What happened there is I looked at the first row and the first person I saw was my neighbor. We were way too close. We were way too close to you. And then so I just went to the next row and I was like, well, I don't have to, I can't be searching for who to do this with. So then I just went to you and boom, there you are. Katie and I were sitting next to each other. Now there's evidence of that. And I, people in the chat are also saying that, uh, you have access to the chat. Well, Cortez is sending me what people are saying. I like Donald Trump. I'm getting a selected version of the reality that we inhabit. Write the chat on giant cue cards and press them up against the glass over there. People are saying that Katie's eye contact was not exactly, uh, that if someone who was engaged, if you listened to the episode that we did without you on my podcast, which I've since found out you didn't even care to listen to. Didn't even know she had a podcast. Even though he commented like probably hard hands or something on the Instagram. I think he did actually. Because exactly hard. Didn't even click play. I'm over here doing my makeup and streaming your show. That was my intern state. And you're just like, good job, everybody. But anyway, I had, I was looking at the, one of the promo clips that you posted on Instagram and in the promo clip, it cuts to an audience reaction shot. And Pablo is like looking up and smiling and I'm like looking into middle distance. And my first reaction was, am I on my phone? And then my immediate second reaction was, we were so close to you and you had called on him early and that there's no chance I would have pulled my phone out. Not because I'm a good person, but because I would have gotten caught and made fun of for it endlessly. So then I was like, why would I have been looking? And my best explanation was that now that I go with Dan to his shows a lot and I'm in the back listening to the comedy. Sometimes I just like zone out. Not like looking up at you. You know, you weren't doing a lot of physical stuff. Not a lot of gymnastics in a set. Okay. Well, and so I think I was probably just like staring into space and listening, which I am sorry. I checked my phone during your special. I don't know. I apologize to me. There's nothing to me more plausible than I was so locked in that I was looking down the floor. I was locked in and Pablo was locked in to the camera. I was so into what you were saying that I looked directly away from it. It was just sad. Nothing could be more plausible to me. How was the reaction to the special? You get all the, all the flowers and praise that you learned. And I think that's the, the community of people that surround dropout, which is the company that produced this is so like unbelievably supportive and positive. They seem that way. So it's nice to hear the only negativity in there at all is from Katie's eye contact. No, none is that in, in the thread of one of the clips that dropout posted, people are having a robust argument about veganism and they're really kind of going at each other. It kind of takes over a clip of yours, but the notifications stay the same. So you just watch people having an intense debate that has genuinely nothing to do with the original. Every two minutes, I get an update about factory farming and I think that has, that is not really about that at all. At all. By contrast, what the PTFO community has asked us to look into. We have that next one here. What? You could break it to Katie that Dan is parentheses technically in the Epstein files. And I assume we're talking about LeBatard. We are not. Okay. What's up? What's going on? What is what's happening? Was this somebody was wasn't there a thing where they were looking at shows, comedy shows or something? Let the evidence decide. It's not. This is bull. What you're doing? Yeah. Okay. So it's Jeffrey Epstein to from we don't know, but it's to Jeffrey Epstein. It says this put forward comedy seller, David tell comedy underground life. Shout out David tell this place is great. You'd love it with a smiley face. And it's the comedy seller lineup. I assume for that night. And I bet in there somewhere is Dan's name. We're going to scroll down and see Dan's name. I don't think they're going to attempt to scroll down. Oh, there we go. Whoa. Damn. There he is. Damn. What does it feel like to be engaged to someone who may have made Jeffrey Epstein laugh up ruriously? It's tough. It's a tough. It's confusing feeling. It's a tough thought, you know, but I do think Dan really likes to make anybody laugh. And unfortunately. Speaking on behalf of Dan, if I may, Dan said that he values all of his fans, especially Jeffrey, all fans matter. That's right. That's exactly what he said. Quote him on that. Dan Soder, all fans matter, especially Jeffrey Epstein. Did you guys see in the Epstein files where they talk about the black eyed peas? I didn't look at these things at all. I know what's in them. I don't know. I don't need to see it. I don't know. Are we all digging through them? I was thinking about it. I have a friend who I have a friend who is like one of the black eyed peas. I wish. Oh my God. Apple Apple Apple Apple. Nobody knows him. That's my boy. Of course you know what he's the most known one. Who are the other ones? How do you even say Apple to Apple? Yes. Apple. I believe it's Apple to app. Okay. And then will I am and then Fergie, who's the, who are we missing? I know the matrix guy. Yeah. Might be matrix guy. It's like, hmm, hmm. That's the weight. That's the syllables of it. Yeah. Short syllable letter taboo. Taboo. Matrix guy. But, um, they talk about the black eyed peas. Okay. What I was going to say is that I have a friend who is reading the files just like leisurely. Like just like, I'm not going to do the next few hours. I'm going to just dive in and read the files. So if I see her, I'll be like, what'd you do today? And she'll be like, I went for a walk. The files for a couple hours went to the gym, that kind of thing. And she drew my attention to the fact that the black eyed peas, someone is really trying to get Galein Maxwell to listen to the black eyed peas. And that's just kind of a fun thing that happens. Just a fun wrinkle. Some things in the abscene files are like kind of. Sure. And I would be more inclined to be interested in them if the rest of it didn't make me want to. And absolutely fair. I think that is totally fair. You know, so I'm doing my best to avoid all stuff that makes me want to. Because it's a lot. I have, it's a tough time to be depressed, you guys. Is it? It's just not like, it's not chill right now. It's, I'm not looking out at the world and going like, I'm going to be okay. I feel, I guess it's probably worse. Everything feels really heavy and sh**. So. I think it's fair to say also that like, as the Epstein files are concerned, just being in them is not proof of anything. Sometimes people are just in it because they got recommended because Jeffrey Epstein has friends that are saying like, oh, you should look at this cool thing. Yeah. And they have like. Why are you in there too? Yeah, of course. There he is. Isolation play. It isn't Kobe's taunts or humiliating viral videos that have made this the toughest year of Jeremy Lin's life. Do you remember writing that? I, so this, this is allegedly, this is like a roundup of, this is a flip board email that Jeffrey Epstein. Remember that? Yeah. I wrote an article about Jeremy Lin. My man. I was going to say about Jeffrey Epstein. About Jeremy Lin and what seems to be completely innocent like email is admittedly undercut by the fact that it's above eight perfect getaways with outdoor showers. So wait, what, what am I looking at? How this is in the files? Someone in Jeffrey Epstein's circle. I think his flip board account got me my writing in there. Fun. Did it get the fact that I on Facebook have DMed Jeremy Lin probably 400 times? I haven't in the last few years, but he used to post Facebook stories. He doesn't anymore. But when he posted Facebook stories, I would respond to the stories being like, go get a man. You know what I mean? Just stuff like that. On purpose? You're doing, you're doing it. Oh. No, just little positive affirmations for my boy Jeremy. You never hit with the hard hands? Yeah. He never hit me with anything. Yeah. He had no, no response ever and you know, more prior to him, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have either if I were him. But I was just trying, you know, you're out there in China. You're doing it. There's been on the receiving end of those when you post a story, one person responds all the time with little messages. Yeah. That's like such a nicer version of it. Okay. That's like scary. It's creepy a little bit. It's nice to know it happens to other people too. But just to confirm you are reading all the things. No, not anymore. No, not anymore. I'm not allowed to. I got to read books instead. I got to trying to stay off this thing. It's in her lap. The phone that has the article about Sam Altman on it that I thought I got really deep into that article. We have another question. We have another question from you. Yes. Oh, here we go. Thoughts on Sam Altman, more to possibly find out question mark. I do think that if you haven't read the giant New Yorker article that is co-written by Ronan Farrow, I've read 40,000 words of it, which I think is 4%. I thought it was more than enough. And then I found out it's there's a lot more. Yeah. We've talked about this, I think on this podcast before, but when you're scrolling in the little cursor, you like, you go like this. Yeah. The little cursor goes, you're like, I'm not going to get to the end of this. I don't think I'm going to try. So much has happened in the little words I've read. It's like, well, I must be towards the end of this article. And it's like, you girl, you haven't even started scratching the surface. Yeah. And the quote that I think we can just like pull out for everybody to just like not read it, but get the sense of is quote, I think there's a small, but real chance he's eventually remembered as a Bernie Madoff or Sam Bankman freed level scammer. End quote. Yeah. I was focused in on that, the quote about him being a sociopath. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think if it's Bernie Madoff, that's going to be like Bernie Madoff for the whole economy. Yeah. Because he really did. Yeah. It's bigger than that. Bigger than Madoff. Which brings up, I think, our, this is the thing that I think we have some culpability for. Me? Yes. Oh. Well, me and you and not Katie. Oh hell yeah. What the heck? Love the way this sounds. More of this. So on Halloween, people who are in the chat may remember this. I see where we're going. Throw burgers in the chat because Michael Cruz Kane was dressed as a burger. We invited a literal witch to the studio and I was dressed as a tree, I think. I remember the witch's name, the award winning witch. Oh man. I wish that I did, but I don't. Lexar Rose. Yeah. Oh, village voice. Village voice. I liked her very much. I'll tell you that much. Award winning witch. Michael had a suggestion and we decided not to curse a specific person, but rather an entire. So with this dramatic music playing underneath us in our post production edit. It will be there. What do we need to do? Oh goddess. Fortuna. We ask you to protect the fate of mankind and to turn the fortune of AI causes to slip up and fail so that it cannot harm humanity. So mode it be. So mode it be. So mode it be. You guys want to add any words to that? May humans masturbate the old fashioned way. Amen. So mode it be. Beautiful. That is beautiful. So mode it be. And you know, may humans reign over technology and not the reverse. So mode it be. And what are we saying there? So mode it be. I believe it's moat and I have no answers for you. So mode it be. I'm just saying whatever that gal said, I'm going that must be right. So mode it be. Can I also say something else about that episode that I may have never talked to you about? At the end of that episode, that witch. Yeah. How dare you. Not derogatory. Not actually complimentary. Lexa Roseanne. Told us a very specific way to dispose of the sh** that she gave us. So we had created a list of ingredients, which is brew of sorts. Yeah. And she said this has to be disposed of, I think like at the base of a tree and I'm leaving the studio and these guys are like, let's just pour it in the, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. So I ultimately did not see what happened to that stuff. But if anything goes bad with this AI, I think it's totally possible that one of these dudes just threw it on a toilet or something. You know what I mean? Why didn't you take it down to a tree yourself then? You were leaving the building. I don't want to be, I don't, I didn't want to. You're already too late for that. I'm not the one. I'm not the one. So mode it be. So mode it be. You got to take the stuff outside. It had already been. It had been. The mode had been already. You guys are reckless. I'm just saying that you're going to remember we're doing invest. Pablo, find out about that. I think, I think it's working. Could be. Or the opposite. Hard to tell whether AI is being undermined by our spell or is taking over everything and in fact is succeeding. What sucks about all of this all the time now is that it's either the biggest deal on earth or a bunch of nothing. Everything now is either like, wow, the president either just said he's going to basically nuke a country or he's just talking and nothing's going to happen and it's just to manipulate the market. Or it's like the entire economy is wrapped up in AI. AI is coming. It's going to take all your jobs. Or we don't actually have the tech and they're scrambling to keep everything is like, I just feel like so quickly we knew what stuff was and we knew like that is that. And that's a, this is a table and it will always be a table. And I just feel like now everything is a question mark, which makes it harder to have any linear thoughts because you're like, they can't, you can't build anything on, you're both looking to be like, I'm not. Totally. The way that I feel the way, no, I'm with, I'm with, I'm with. Okay, it's okay. I'm just, I'm just the way to be. The way I feel in that is I have, I was reading an article about a woman in Tehran who's talking about like, you know, how scared she is. And she's like, I think Donald Trump has lost his mind. And they were basically asking her, what are you going to do? Like you're going to move out of Tehran and we're like, where would you go? And she's like, I mean, what am I going to do? I'm just kind of here. Here's where I live. There's not really a place to go that feels safer than this. So this is where I'm going to be at. And that's kind of my mind, perhaps non-productively is like, well, this is, I, this, this is the world that I got. No, I mean, I've, I have been trying to make my world small, but that it just feels very selfish and it's also not good podcast discussion. But it's been like, if this is, if this is how it's going to be here outside, then like when I'm inside with my dog and Dan, we just like do a lot of like, I don't know, telling each other that we love each other and like hanging out with our dog and like smiling and making each other laugh. Do puzzles. Do puzzles. I gave you a puzzle. Can I read you guys another quote from the Sam Altman story? Yeah. Because I think the whole thing of it's either the biggest thing or it's also nothing. Yeah. It brings us to a part of that piece, which is specifically resonant to viewers of this program, perhaps people who've been watching and listening since November of 2023. When we brought up something that I will, I will quote this article in discussing quote, it was announced that Altman had joined the advisory board for Neon. Oh boy. A city of the future that Mohammed bin Salman hoped to build in the desert. Sam, you cannot be on this board. The policy director who now works at Anthropoc recalled telling Altman and was on to say that basically he was unconcerned with the moral consequences, mostly about whether you could get away with this stuff allegedly. Neon, a city of the future. Katie, do you have any brief way of explaining what Neon was supposed to be supposed to be? So when I brought it to you, it's because I had seen a commercial for it or something. There were commercials all the time. It was promised as this city in the desert. I've been Saudi Arabia, I believe. Were you over there when you saw the commercials or where were you? Why would I have been over there? I don't know. The comedy festival. Maybe. No. No. It was here. It was during a sporting event, which is why I brought it to Pablo because I was like, they advertise during sports. I do this to him a lot. I keep sending him, he gets us. I'm like, figure out who runs this. What this is. I want to know. But the Neon was like, it's supposed to be like a high tech city. One of the aspects of it was something called the line, which was going to be this big long. I don't remember how many miles a city that had like, you know, again, the outside visual of it, it just looked like a wall. But inside it was this, obviously not real, but it was like a sprawling ecosystem with greens and a high speed train that would run from one end to another. You would live there and go down to the train and then you'd go to your job. It was a self sustaining city in the middle of a desert. In fact, I just need to clarify. Katie in no way, Michael is exaggerating because it was advertised as this. What is Neon? This is Neon or here to be more precise in the Northwest of Saudi Arabia. But Neon is more than a place. It's a home for people who dream big, bigger than that. That's more like it. It'll be a hub for innovation, an entirely new model for sustainable living. The vision for a new future. In fact, that's how it got its name. But what will be there? There's OXOGON, a thriving city at the crossroads of the world. Where advanced manufacturing will enable industries of the future. Trojanah, a year round mountain destination. Just remember to pack your skis when you visit. Or a skiing is not your thing. There's always Sindala, one of Neon's many beautiful islands. Perfect for Samara and Ar. And the line, a 500 meter high, 200 meter wide, 170 kilometer long city in the shape of, well, a line. No roads, cars or emissions. And everything it's nine million residents could ever need within a five minute walk. No, regular stuff. I mean, that's like post apocalyptic is what it feels like. I feel like this is what this is. It was sold as an investment in a different type of energy. I think it was something like they had noticed that obviously most of their wealth came from an unsustainable type of energy. And so in the, at some point, they're going to have to take a step towards the future to coming up with other sorts of renewable energy sources. That's how it was sold. At this point. Yes. At this point, they've abandoned. They actually remember they said there was going to be a bunch of like world sporting events, not big ones like the Olympics or anything. But like, maybe like a beach soccer tournament or something. They had given it to that fake city that wasn't even built yet. They were like, yeah, they're going to have the 2032 or something crazy. At this point, I think it might just be a data center. Yeah. So according to the Financial Times, this very ambitious project, this was one of the crown jewels of the Crown Prince, Mohamed bin Salman. It has been significantly downscaled and it is likely to be converted into a hub for data centers. Hell yeah. Dude, a tightening liquidity after a decade of massive spending and subdued oil prices, which are definitely going to get better on account of us. Again, just to quote the earlier president. Yeah, the whole civilization dying tonight, never to be brought back again, possibly. So wait, was it understood that the money from open AI would help to fund this? So there was just kind of like a. Yeah, what was it? Go over that relationship for us again? It was that he would be on the advisory board. And what is that? What is that ever? You are asking questions that I don't think Sam Altman himself necessarily asked as rigorously. The blip over there at open AI is what they call it, right? When Sam Altman was removed because the board members decided that originally they had said that somebody of like high moral. Standing would have to be in charge of what they're building. Because listen, if you're going to build something ambitious, like AI is supposed to be. It's intelligence that will exceed human capabilities. It should. It has to be in the hands of somebody who can be trusted with that sort of tech. And so I think what I remember hearing is that the board agreed that he was not that guy that he started to show signs of being concerning. He would lie a lot. He was. He was characterized as both this very special combination of. People pleaser. But guy who was lying all the time. Right. And so it was a which you know, they're not always mutually exclusive. And so it was like a so they removed him. And then. Through some miraculous power play, he makes his way back in. Not only that removes the people from the board who had been initially started the. Moving of him. And so then he's just, you know, back. Because it seems like what there was no catastrophic event that preceded him being removed. Other than other than people are like, this guy seems kind of. We have always said that if it's a guy who seems kind of fucked up, we should get him out and put somebody else in. Then they took action towards doing that. And then because of the effect on like markets and business going like, well, if Sam's not in charge, we don't want to be in charge. And then he got everybody to sign that thing that said they wanted him in charge. And then he comes back in charge and immediately goes, well, I don't want to be in charge of these people who tried to oust me or here. So then they are gone. Makes sense. I guess. But it's also like, at what point do you go? Yeah. Well, that was their chance to take out the guy that wasn't right to hold the button. And now he's going to hold the button as tight as humanly possible. I just, I don't know. I guess I've just wished that if these evil people were going to be in charge of all this important tech, they'd at least be cool and have good taste. And they all just seem to be damp and weird. Not going to happen for you, bro. It's not going to work out that way. None of them are ever like, whoa, at least he's cool. But I don't, I guess I just don't believe, I don't believe that it's going to work. I don't believe in AI. I don't think, like, I think some, it will make some things incrementally more efficient and better in some ways. But most things I think it's like, souped up Google and that's really kind of it. But then if that's the case, then our economy is going to crash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I think is going to happen. So either way, where the fuck? That's my favorite part. That's what I think is cool. I think coding has already been basically fundamentally replaced by AI in many key aspects. But the whole promise of what it is, it's in some ways the best advertising is the apocalypse because it's so impactful that it will create potentially the apocalypse. And what if, in fact, the reality is that, oh no, it's just underwhelming. But probably even with coding, I know you're trying to move on, even with coding. I sense you want to not talk about this even with coding, like someone's going to have to be have accountability for when the AI f**ks up the code. You know what I mean? Which it will do. It's going to make a mistake. And so what makes you think that somebody will have to be accountable? Well, just like, who are you going to blame? When the power goes out at all the hospitals because we let... Immigrants, I would guess, is who they'll blame. Yeah, but they're going to... That's if I had to make an educated guess, it would be immigrants. You might be right. But it feels like at some point there's going to be a human that is going to take all this sh** for that. And it's almost... I hope. It's going to be a while before it's the guy at the top. It's going to be like some dude in the middle who's like, you're the overseer. And now that AI is doing coding for 7,000 projects that used to be done by 7,000 people, you're the one guy who has to oversee all 7,000 of those projects. And you can't do it. It's not possible. As always, I want to reiterate that our house theory, our house club house leading theory is that AI is in fact 60 Filipino guys. Yeah. And I love it. And for those guys, Salaman. Yes. By the way, I was late in getting to this, but someone in the chat said, quote, my uncle had a whizinator that he would share and had makeup to alter it. Wait, in case, in case what? Oh, because he would share it. Yeah. Yo, what? So, what? Skin tone was always there. Doug, can I borrow your whizinator? That's going to be a no. Buy your own. We do have to get though to the aforementioned protagonist, arguably, of the shows we do together. Do we have the latest from Jordan Hudson? No, what? Really? Do we have? We have to. Oh, no. Who would win the foot race? Pablo or Jordon? Well, I've never seen her in a flat shoe. I don't think. I don't know. Yeah, but she's an athlete. Well, no offense to my friend, but she's just, she's done like a bunch of flips and I know she could do that. She's calves. That's, but that's, that's genetic. It could be, that could be, there might be any muscle in there. Sometimes the Filipino just had these secretly thick ass calves. You're like, what is that good for? And the answer is sometimes nothing. You see UNC basically did it again, by the way. They hired their basketball coach and it's a pro coach with pro experience. Michael Malone. Who's dating. Don't call him Michael. You guys heard this, right? He's dating Jordan Hudson. Whoa. Crazy. It all comes back to Jordan. She is for the record a national champion cheerleader. I think she, I think she would stomp your ass in a race. I'm saying it. I mean, this was, this was last month. Gold digger got pay hashtag pay hashtag gold digger. She has a lot in the cops, in the captions. She does a lot with hashtags. She's writing in a way that like she's got a dedic. It's almost reminds me of God. What was that girl's name who went to those schools abroad and she, Caroline. Callaway. Yep. This is, she's got a little Caroline Callaway tour where you're just like, who's the, who's this for? What did she, what, what, what, what, what did she win? What was that? The, the gold digger. I can't be honest. It's cold. I have no idea. But that's, you look to the caption to go, what was the name of the event? I saw something about trouble. You'll just find Pablo's name. She won the national cheerleading championship for adults. That can't be what it's called. Hell yeah. The NCCFA. National cheerleading championship for adults. It gotta be ones of contestants in that. Her cheerleading squad is named code black. And yeah, it's a national cheerleading championship guys. I don't know. I know it's complicated. And congrats to her. I don't have any issue with her doing this. This is great. I would like to see that race though. I would pay for the race. I think she would win. I do too. I'm no offense to you. She is, you know, I know there's a question mark and a, and a shroud of secrecy around. I do think she is younger than you. I know at least she's younger than you. Yeah. And she's going to be, she's going to be full body fitness. She's probably running every day. She's been working out. You walk home, which is a long walk. I do. I do love a walk. You could, you might be here on a walk. If we said, look, you got, who's going to walk the furthest? I bet you would walk farther. Yeah. Can we turn our attention to the other person that we've been looking into at North Carolina? Of course. Of course. General manager. Oh, Jesus. Michael Lombardi. What do we got on him? So I want to shout out Foya Ball. This is David Kovucchi. Good fellows. Um, his Italianness has been officially called into question. Because this is how he tweets about the movie. Good fellows. Good fellows. Thanks. Crazy. You made me want to watch good fellows now. It is crazy to call it. You need to watch good fellows. What was he? What, what, in what world were Peter Schrager and Kay Adams talking to each other in December of 2016? And Lombardi came swooping and, oh, was he at Fox at the time? You got to chime in. You need to watch good fellows. That's absurd. I, that guy is not on earth. There is more. Great. Good. Love that scene. Ironic that Chris gets shot in the foot in good fellows and turns tables in Sopranos. You watch Kay. All right, dude, there was a character limit, but that wasn't it. He had room to, to speak in a understandable way. If you haven't seen the good fellows, I think you might enjoy my cousin Vincent. It's also supposed to be a pretty good flick. There is more. He can't keep saying good fellows. Much like in the movie Diner, Femi is going to have to pass a test before we commence. Not the Colts test, rather a Sopranos godfather, good fellows, JFK one. He can do it, right Femi? I don't know. I don't know. This was in 22. Good fellows. That should be illegal. By the way, this is the only opportunity for me to say on the side that I think that Joe Pashie is the greatest actor of all time. Great. Not a bit. I think he's the best. Cool. Number one. Your save could never. Because of which role? Okay. We got, you got all, all the movies that guy doesn't know the name of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then you got Home Alone. Something for the kids. Then you got My Cousin Vinny. Yeah. This guy's doing, look, and I know he's playing a similar character in all these movies, but are you going to get My Cousin Vinny laughs? And you're going to get Casino out of the same guy? Yeah. Robert De Niro is trying. Robert De Niro has tried his whole life to get My Cousin Vinny. He can't do it. He can't do it. He's great, but he can't do it. I feel like Michael Lombardi. We need to devote an entire episode to that. Good fellows. To the fact that he's, he's Italian. Wait. So did you find something out about his last name and your findings out? Well, it has been previously reported that he appreciates or benefits from the fact that people think he's related to Vince Lombardi. But that is his real last name. That actual last name is Michael O. Lombardowitz. Yeah. Or it's like a. He's the good fellows of Vince Lombardi. I made him Irish and Jewish at the same time. Perfect. Didn't like, didn't Joe Thysman change the way you say his name to, because you want. Yes. The Heisman. So Joe Thysman, former quarterback. Yeah. You're going to tell me. Yeah. He knows that. Grizzly, grizzly leg accident from the, from LT, right? Or is it LT Herndon? Did Lawrence Taylor shatter? Oh, look who's telling, look who's telling who what now. Yeah. I feel good. I feel good about that. North Carolina alum, Lawrence Taylor. Bring it all back. Full circle. Good boy. The story of the Joe Thysman. It was how you're supposed to say it, but he changed the Thysman because it rhymed with Heisman's doing a Heisman campaign. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Did he win the Heisman? Uh, no, I don't think so. Would that work? Do you think if I change my last name to like Mosker or something? Let's find out. So I could win an Oscar. Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael Cruz, Mosker, Michael Cruz, Mosker. Okay. Yeah. I'll try it. If it worked, but if it didn't work for him, I'm not doing it, but if it did work for him, it didn't work for him. Then I would. That's why it's funny. Ladies and gentlemen, Pablo Flobell prize, something like that. It worked. Pablo would have done it by now. Yeah. That's true. Um, we're getting incoming, uh, interest in another. Familiar character on this program. Wonderful. It's a great hits. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No specific question, but I hope you guys dial in Cleetus. What's up with Cleetus? I love Cleetus. Not the robot from Fox, uh, NFL Sunday. Yes. Not former Mike Lombardi colleague. That is, yes, exactly. That is, and you should have heard those two in the getting coffee in the break room, but that's spelled like cleat in this. Cleetus is not. It would be forgivable if Cleetus the robot thought the movie was called good fellows. Yeah. Uh, that would be allowed. Oh, that would make sense even. Uh, Cleetus, this Cleetus has been leaving us voicemails. Our Cleetus, our Cleetus has been leaving us voicemails all year. Yes. Hey, Pablo, this is Cleetus in the Voslauda. Man, I was just wondering something after watching the TV a lot and I noticed stuff, why are women shaved their underarms and why are they, are they, is that a societal thing or is that men forcing them to, is that women just like them to do that? It seems like it's a bad form. Like there's a lot of tours and stuff. And I just wonder if that's like a societal thing and what should we, should we not act like that's gross when men don't do that? And I mean, I don't know. It just seems like it's kind of backwards and of course I'm married and all that my wife of course does. I just was more feeling like she has to for me because I don't, I don't know if they kind of care, but it seems kind of selfish if that's what society is putting on women to make them do it where it seems like it could actually have adverse effects on their health and maybe we should give the women a break and just let them be, you know, so I'll hang up and listen. He's having a feminist awakening every single day. Like he is sitting in Navar, Florida by like a swamp. They've swamps. What's there? Let's say swamp, like reading the feminist mystique or whatever. He's reading. He's reading bell hooks. Yeah. Another thing. Yeah. Here's another. Do you remember what Cletus does? He takes the cooking oil, used cooking oil from restaurants and gathers it and sells it to people and they turn it into fuel or something. A job that was last. Cletus, that was pretty close. I think that's right. It's the job that was last in the news because of another Fox colleague. Yeah. Got. Oh yeah. I'm a robot, Mark Sanchez. We got in a fight with that guy who was doing that in elsewhere. I don't know. Our investigation into that continues. I suppose. I suppose I do like that. Cletus is married and is like, let me ask Katie. Let me ask Katie. Oh, that was me. You think that was for me? I think that was explicitly for you. No, but I think he knows that you're our in house woman. Girl. Jesus. Jesus. Let me speak for all of us. Actually, just let me check and make sure I'm even on the. Yeah, they're mostly shaved. I think it's I think it's societal. Yeah. It's like it was seen as like a beauty standard thing. And look, you cannot you can choose to not, but almost every time someone notices that a woman doesn't, it becomes the like leading headline about her is that she's a shaver armpits. Is it doesn't it feel like it was maybe I'm not sure if I know this or if I'm feeling it, but that it's like a Gillette thing, that Gillette and like whatever, 19, the same way with like diamond rings and engagement, the way they like tied it. They were just like, if you don't do this, you're disgusting. And I was like, we were never doing this before. I believe it. This is I got less of a problem with this. It's these I want to talk about. This is no, your full leg. It's so much. It's 50 percent of your body. And we're supposed to shave it all the time. It's just this is like whoop, whoop, done, whoop, whoop, done. That's the sound you make when you do it, right? Yeah. This is this takes a lot of time and it's all of your skin. So if you have like sensitive skin, you're dragging a imagine if you're you had to do your face, but it was your whole bottom half. Although I would say as my particular genetic makeup makes it so I don't actually have that much hair. So for, but I understand what you're getting at. Oh, I got I I'm a centaur. What's that? Smooth up top. Yeah, but down below it's. I'm Italian, so I am entirely covered in hair. In fact, parts of me that seem like they're not, it's because we were early adopters to laser hair removal technology. My mom had a friend who was practicing. I was like, well, and she was like, let her zap by your face. You know, it was in the Weapon X program for laser hair removal. My friend is practice. That's not a practice situation. And they put numbing cream on it and it did not work. I got blasted most of my spots and it's all I'm so hairy. It has fought back and I'm in it's coming back. Sweetie, let Linda practice with the laser on your face. It was yeah, there's a lot of like particular technology. Yeah, your healing factor. You're running around the house hiding behind the couch and she's like trying to shoot lasers at you. That was it. That was mostly it hurts so bad. We do have another follow up inquiry along these lines. More please. I only want to talk to Cleetus. Hey, Pablo, this is Cleetus from the bar, Florida. I was watching the TV of the night and I was just wondering are women more constipated than men? If I ain't seen one men constipation commercial, but we got all these women on the TV commercial talking about how they're constipated and here's what you should take for it. And I'm just wondering this is our fault, you know, like is this a recent problem or is this man making women more constipated by putting pressure on them? Or I don't know what's going on, but I appreciate you to find that for me. All right. Now, that's not a phenomenon. I'm even aware of me neither. It sounds like a woke way to ask if women are full of shit. I have I have seen I think a commercial. I don't remember if it's a man or a woman getting into a hot tub. They're getting into a hot tub where there's a bunch of like attractive other people in the hot tub with them. And they're kind of like, oh, I can finally get in here because I'm not worried about taking a shit. I just took a shit. You guys don't know what I'm talking about. No, but I believe you. It's not your fault that it's weird. I've seen the Kola guard one where two women are like hitting on the anthropomorphic box that you're supposed to put your in to send off to this company. It makes no the things mowing the lawn and they're basically going like with the box that you put your in. Why are you hitting on this is the noninvasive prescription? Oh, you're like, what is even the messaging here? Where she's like, hmm, I love the way it is. Your yard work, the box of shit. What are we talking about? But do women get constipated more than men was the question. Yeah. And I don't I do like that. Cleetus is turning to us and not clotted. Chat. Well, he's just he's looking at the world through a critical lens that maybe he's been, you know, awakened in some way. And he's like, wait, hang on a second. Why are we? What is like, what is it called? Pink tax, pink tax. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Everything's all the all the products that are both men and women use if they're designed for women. It's like, oh, this is a little more wise of women's razor cost more than men's razor. What's going on there? That's Cleetus. I bet I bet you there's one of those. I can't wait until Cleetus see asks us why they only use blue liquid and period commercials when they. I bet that's a fair question. Because what the fuck? I remember it was like revolutionary a while ago. Somebody like used a different I don't even think they used red. These are different color and people were like, whoa, the scientist ran screaming from the room. It's red like that. Like, yeah, dude, it's red like that. It's also got chunks in it. What were you saying? Oh, ladies and gentlemen, this segment brought you by Chucks. Grow up. We've had to deal with it our whole lives. We aren't horrified the first time we see that we're in middle school. She is already not going great for us. Okay. And then one day you go, I'm falling out of me. What was the other stuff you had? Anyway, you were going to say I'm falling out of me. Everything is a nightmare. Life is just constantly going. About something or another thing. I third thing. Hold on. Let me just see. Important to know. Are you calling Cletus? He always just springs this on. It'd be funny if he's not calling. Cletus is just calling. Put on speakerphone. It doesn't sound like it's on speakerphone to me. We can't hear that. You don't hear the microphone. You don't hear on the microphone. No. Take the unplug it and push it into the mic. It's a public Tory woman. Cletus. What up, public? Cletus, can you hear me as well as Katie Nolan as well as Michael Cruz Kane? Hi, Cletus. I can. How y'all doing? We're good, Cletus. We miss you. I miss y'all too. Hell yeah. I had a little brief stint of fame in the panhandle. That's right. That's right. I think it's still going. You're famous to us still. We listened to a couple of your messages just now. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Cletus, can you paint the picture of where you are right now as you continue to be our Florida Panhandle correspondent? I'm on the Florida Panhandle taking a grease container to somebody and trying to figure out what I'm going to cook dinner for my wife tonight. Hell yeah. What are the options? I don't know. I mean, I'm probably going to do like a Greek bowl. So I'll taste some chicken breasts and do some Greek rice and some avocados and feta cheese, some olives, tomatoes, cucumber, and green onion and put some pepperonis on top of it and call it a meal. Yum. That sounds very helpful. Can I ask a question? My question for you, Cletus, is what's the division of dinner preparation in your home? What percent of the time are you doing it and what percent of time is she doing it? Well, my wife works harder than I did. So I try to do much to the cooking because, uh, although she's a great cook, I just try to make it easier on her. She's a nurse, right? Cletus, she's a nurse. Well, she's a director of nursing. Yeah, she wasn't, she's still a nurse at heart. But, uh, yeah. Um, I'm a chef in a former life. We used to have restaurants in Alabama and I'm a certified chef. So she lets me do it because I enjoy it. She cooks and it's great, but she doesn't enjoy it. My wife is a nurse also, Cletus. And I know that I know the grind. So I'm also used to getting food on the table for my wife who works much harder than me. Respect. You're just saying what he said. My own nurses get the whole, uh, first responder discount said everybody else. Yeah. Saves lives good. Yeah. I wonder about that. When I was banging my pot and pan during the pandemic, that was exclusively for nurses. That's who I was thinking of when I was leaning out my window. Exactly. We just forgot about them now. Yeah. That sucks. Yeah. My wife's a, she's a really hard, hard worker. She's very dedicated. Well, Cletus, we love, we love, we love that you continue to embody what it means to be the ideal spouse of a Filipino person. And well, actually my wife's not Filipino. Well, she's a nurse. So technically, I think my son in law is Filipino and my daughter is married to him and his family's. Oh, okay. You know, y'all call on birthdays. It's weird. Who's birthday? Whose birthday? It's my grandson, Eli. Oh, Eli. Happy birthday, Eli. Happy birthday, Eli. Elijah Garcia. We're going to teach him how to play basketball or something where he can be on the Filipino national team. Yes. You don't have to be that good. You don't even need to, you don't even need to be Filipino. The Philippines made Andre Blach, former Washington Wisset Center. Isn't Javail McGee on the Philippines national team? We passed legislation to make those guys members of the national team. Well, I'm just, I'm hoping Eli catches the spirit of the Olympics. Maybe, I don't know what, what, what we'll train him to do, but I just want to go to the Olympics and represent the Philippines. I, I would love nothing more than that, Cletus. You know, it also occurs to me that in your capacity as professional guy who deals with oil, you're also now our oil correspondent. How do you feel about potentially the end of the world tonight at 8pm Eastern? Yeah, I spent on my mind two days now and we have a mad man as a president. Although I didn't vote for him. There's a lot of people down here that did. We just went to Disney World this past week, celebrating my grandson's two year old birthday. And, and I didn't see one make a great American great again. Where have they gone? Well, I mean, is it they're embarrassed? They lose their hats. I, I, on the panhandle, we're just pretty red down here. And everybody is just kind of pretend like they ain't got a part of this. And I won't let them forget. I'm still a conservative person as far as money, but as far as everything else, I say, live and let live and you should just love your fellow human being. And I just don't know what's happened to these people. They've just, I mean, you know, when you elect a mad man, you got to stick with it. They're not doing it. I have a thing he's going to taco out tonight. And make us, I hope he does. I did too. I mean, I just, I mean, all the awful stuff he says, awful. Like, well, only a crazy person. And put, he's already crazy, but this stuff is 20. Yeah. For the, to me. And I just, I would, I swear you'd be such a good president. Chill out, Cleetus. We just started it. We can't, we can't do this. The committee to elect Pablo president. I can't. It started right now. I can't, I can't. I was with you the whole time. I can't let you do this. It's either Pablo or Stephen A. Smith. Those are your two choices. That's who you get. Katie, I mean, you have a cabinet position. Yes. That's not a good idea either. Secretary of Chicks. Jesus Christ. Secretary of Coolness. Hell yeah. Secretary of Coolness. We create a new cabinet position. Cleetus, I should have, I should have told you that you're currently live. Oh yeah. On air. But I also, I very good legally cleared that hurdle. And also, thank you for providing us a note of. For me, personal hopefulness that I didn't have when we started the show. That is true. And yeah. We love you, Cleetus. You're the main. Thank you, Cleetus. Happy birthday to Eli. And thank you for your endorsement. I do approve this message. Don't that part, no, but the rest of it, yes. Yes sir, yes sir. I'm always here for you, Pablo. I mean, always. Hell yeah. I enjoy. I'm listening to Katie's show. I mean, it's all good. And when you first started on Levitar, I was like, oh my God, she is so funny. I think we'll probably wrap it up now. No, no, no. Forget the end music. What? End music? End music? Ah, deal. This has been Pablo Torre finds out a Meadowlark media production. And I'll talk to you next time.