New Rory & MAL

Episode 464 | Kate Winslow

88 min
Mar 6, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Rory and Mal discuss new music releases including projects from Gnarls Barkley, Ty Dolla $ign, and J. Cole, debate Jay-Z's potential album rumors, analyze the Drake-Kendrick battle through Michael Eric Dyson's perspective, and address relationship toxicity through caller voicemails.

Insights
  • Jay-Z's creative motivation stems from personal/family matters rather than online criticism or competitive responses, suggesting his next project would require significant personal inspiration
  • The term 'Neo Soul' originated as a marketing label to justify lower budgets for Black artists, but has evolved into a legitimate genre identity that helped younger listeners discover music
  • Popular high school students often fail to maintain success into adulthood due to early peak experiences and lack of impulse control, while less popular peers often achieve greater long-term success
  • Toxic relationship patterns persist when one party accepts disrespect (like physical assault) and returns when manipulated by emotional appeals, indicating deeper self-worth issues
  • Music industry classification systems (Neo Soul, Traditional R&B) continue to function as budget-limiting mechanisms despite their original marketing intent
Trends
R&B and Soul music experiencing resurgence with new projects from established and emerging artistsGym culture and fitness-focused aesthetics replacing extreme BBL trends as the dominant body standardKetamine-based FDA-approved treatments entering mainstream pharmaceutical market with potential for misuseHigh-profile rappers (Jay-Z, Kanye) increasingly engaging in private dialogue rather than public feuds to address criticismStreaming platforms enabling rapid music consumption creating pressure for artists to release frequentlyMarketing terminology in music industry continuing to function as gatekeeping mechanisms for budget allocationNostalgia-driven album releases and reunions (Gnarls Barkley) capitalizing on millennial listener baseSocial media enabling direct artist-to-fan communication reducing need for traditional press runsToxic relationship dynamics perpetuated by emotional manipulation and intermittent reinforcement patternsGenerational differences in sexual content consumption and desensitization among younger audiences
Topics
Jay-Z Album Rumors and Creative MotivationDrake-Kendrick Battle Analysis and Media InterpretationNeo Soul Genre Classification and Music Industry MarketingNew Music Friday Releases and Artist ProjectsToxic Relationship Dynamics and Emotional ManipulationHigh School Success and Long-term Career OutcomesMusic Industry Budget Allocation and Artist ClassificationKetamine-Based FDA Treatments and Drug PolicyBBL Trends and Body Standard EvolutionMichael B. Jordan SAG Awards PerformanceBritney Spears DUI Incident and Conservatorship LegacyEddie Murphy Coming to America Makeup and ProstheticsGnarls Barkley Album Reunion After 20 YearsKanye West and Good Music CollaborationsAutopsy Procedures and Medical Misconceptions
Companies
Netflix
Hosts the Rory & Mal show; mentioned regarding viewer engagement and potential cancellation scenarios
iHeartRadio
Distributes the New Rory & Mal podcast and multiple other shows mentioned in ad reads
Boost Mobile
Primary sponsor offering unlimited talk, text, and data at $25/month with significant savings vs major carriers
Hard Rock Bet
Sports betting platform sponsor offering same-game parlays and live betting for college basketball
Rock Nation
Jay-Z's entertainment company actively signing young artists and managing their projects
Good Music
Kanye West's record label with multiple artists including Big Sean and Pusha T discussed in context
Roc Nation
Jay-Z's management and entertainment company involved in artist development and business ventures
People
Jay-Z
Discussed extensively regarding potential new album, business ventures, and influence on hip-hop culture
Drake
Analyzed in context of Drake-Kendrick battle and historical relationship with Jay-Z through music
Kendrick Lamar
Central figure in Drake battle discussion and Michael Eric Dyson's controversial commentary
Michael Eric Dyson
Scholar who criticized Drake during Kendrick battle; reportedly called by Jay-Z to discuss perspective
Kanye West
Discussed regarding Good Music collaborations, personal behavior, and creative partnerships with artists
Big Sean
Good Music artist discussed for his professional handling of Kanye's criticism and classy demeanor
Pusha T
Good Music artist expected to release album with perspective on Kanye West collaborations
J. Cole
Released album discussed with mixed reception regarding hooks and production choices
Michael B. Jordan
Won SAG Award for Outstanding Performance in dual role as twin brothers in film Sinners
D'Angelo
Neo Soul artist discussed regarding genre classification and marketing industry practices
Maxwell
R&B/Neo Soul artist discussed in context of genre classification and marketing budget allocation
Erykah Badu
Artist discussed regarding Neo Soul aesthetic and controversial album artwork
T.I.
Rapper discussed as underrated in GOAT conversations despite checking every box for greatness
Fredo Bang
Guest on previous episode; discussed OnlyFans and adult content creator knowledge
Britney Spears
Discussed regarding recent DUI arrest and legacy of conservatorship and career resurgence
Eddie Murphy
Discussed for multiple character roles in Coming to America and makeup transformation techniques
Kate Winslet
Actress discussed regarding Titanic film and iconic scenes from 1997
Ty Dolla $ign
Artist releasing Girl Music Volume 1 EP with features from Leon Thomas and Ron Isley
Coco Jones
Traditional R&B artist discussed as example of genre classification limiting artist potential
Ari Lennox
R&B artist who criticized Soul Train Awards for genre classification and marketing limitations
Quotes
"I just don't see that. If he is creating music, it's definitely attached to something personal, something bigger, something that's a part of the family. It's something in that. It's not because online talking and what people on podcasts are saying about him."
MalJay-Z album discussion
"Neo soul was a term created by one black executive purely as a shorthand. It helped labels internally identify which acts would not require crossover marketing budgets."
Rafael Sadiq (quoted)Genre classification discussion
"Don't be a sucker. Suckers born every 17 seconds in America. Don't be one."
RoryRelationship advice to caller
"If somebody throws piss in your face and you stay with them, y'all belong together because she crazy and you crazy for staying with her."
RoryToxic relationship discussion
"I think when you are that popular that young it fucks up your idea of the real world. You think you've hit that peak and you go out into the real world and you're nobody."
MalHigh school success discussion
Full Transcript
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We had to sage this entire office of the impurities that happened yesterday. Oh, man. Yeah, what the fuck was going on? All I saw was a clip I left early yesterday I see one clip And I'm like These niggas horned out Nah well you know We had Fredo Bang Was here Yes Fredo Most hated to available now On your DSPs Yes right now Yeah Our good guy Fredo was here And Major was here yesterday And he was just You know explaining To Major Some of his You know His utilities And his abilities Yes In the bedroom Which that was all The art of love making Just the art of love making That's all he was explaining. Was the whole interview like that? I mean, we talked about a little bit of music. Yeah, but anytime we got to music, it somehow got turned into an OnlyFans girl or a porn star. Well, Fredo was letting us know he's a content soar. Yes. He delves deep into the OF genre of entertainment and the porn genre of entertainment. so he was just letting us know like some of his favorite uh creators and innovators in those worlds that's all which i think in the content world is a perfect lane for him like he should be the steven a of the porn and only fans world absolutely absolutely i know they leak a lot of shit on reddit he could he could stop the he can you know give the creators you know more empowerment and and he could do his skip steven a type thing with with the only fans world absolutely so we know who to pay for and who not to pay for. Most importantly, most hated tours available now, baby. And when we want to talk about that, we just went back. We're back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited. Talk, text, and data. Yes. So please, please watch that Fredo Bang episode. Maybe not in the morning. We did post a clip in the morning and all the comments were like, no, it's not even new yet. What a better way to wake up. It gets the lymphatic, you know. Yeah. Drainage. Drainage going, you know what I mean? Sometimes you wake up with morning wood. You got to just get things moving. Make sure you're still alive. Make sure you're still with us. The natural part of life. Exactly. Sometimes. Sometimes. Yo, my homeboy called me yesterday like, hey, I just want to let you know I'm seeing everything you guys are doing on Netflix. It's so cool, yada, yada. But why don't you guys give Peej a mic? I said we wouldn't last the year. Oh, yeah, no. We wouldn't last the year. No, Peej, Peej. It'd be a great year. I want to make that very clear. It'd be a great final walkout for sure. We wouldn't last the year. Go out with a bang. Yeah. Whenever we find out, if we have like a few months to live, we're just going to put a camera and mic on Peej. That's it. And we're going to give him the topics. We're going to put the camera mic on Peach as we're packing up the studio. We're going to break down the set while he's talking because that'll be the last episode ever. Absolutely not. I would let Peach speak at my funeral. Oh, he has to. That would be great. I would absolutely love that. He has to speak. He has to like, he has to be like, you know, I have the MC at the funeral. Like, you know, the one that's doing the entire. That's Peach at Monsboro because it's going to be real quick, real short. Get right to the party after that. That's how I want it. Y'all keep y'all with this party shit. Y'all do know that it's selfish to expect us to party when you die. Like that's, that's selfish too. It's selfish if you cry when I die. It's selfish either way. Like you can't tell it, you can't tell people how to grieve. You're dead motherfucker. Like it doesn't matter what you want. You're dead. Oh no. I mean, I agree that like, there's only so much you can, you'll be dead. People are going to do whatever they want to do, but I'm trying to make it easier for everybody. That's not easier for everybody. That's an unnatural, like crying and stuff is natural. You want us to instead party That's unnatural It's called a repass Yeah that's the repass You said I don't want a funeral I rest in peace to my good good friend DJ Clark Kent I had a blast at his repass He also had a funeral And I cried at the funeral You said that you don't want a funeral You just want the party So there's a balance between the repass People have cried their eyes out Now they can go party You want us to just straight party I thought I would get some credit for that. Like, thanks, Rory, for not being selfish, where we all have to sit here and speak about you. We could just go celebrate your life. Yeah. Okay. Baby D, don't worry. I'll cry at your funeral. Oh, I would never sit up there and say, oh, I don't want y'all to cry for me. I want y'all to party now. You biggest better be on bended knee. You want me to act a fool? Throw yourself in the casket if you really love me, nigga. Get in there with you? Yeah. Climb in there with me. Get in there with you. I'll get in there with you, Baby D. Don't worry about it. Be gentle, though, because you know my head is just sewing out of my neck. Like it ain't It's just sitting there Who told you the head Was sewn on your neck Ain't that how they Don't they gotta perform Who told you that No cause after The thing where they cut you open And like see what you died from You think they cut your head Off your body Yes They do not do that I've never performed An autopsy I have no idea I'm not gonna sit here And pretend like I know anything about Autopsies Law and order They don't When they perform The autopsy Someone severed the head off The head was already off And they had to put it back on Damaris They do not cut your head off If you die of natural causes Your autopsy They are not just Cutting your head off I'm sure if you had Some type of like Throat cancer Or something They would start to Check what's going on there But I don't think they They sever your head off And hold it up like this There's nothing to check for If you die from throat cancer They know why you died They want to cut your head off The way you're wild But don't they have to Like take out organs Again I'm not going to Pretend like I know about Autopathy Yeah they just cut your chest From like your chest cavity And open up your chest And your abdomen Abdomen But if anything happens like brain wise or anything, they got to like cut your brain. Well, they don't cut you at your neck. They probably cut the scalp off. Right? To check out your brain. Yeah, but if you die from something, well, if you suddenly, obviously, God forbid, if you just drop dead, then yes, they'll perform an autopsy to see what happened. But they don't cut your head off. They can like cut your skull, like open up your skull without cutting your, detaching your head from your body is what I'm saying. Your head will stay intact. It's modern technology. Yeah, like your head will stay. You're not Frankenstein. Like you're not the bride of Frankenstein. Maybe they don't They cut your head off That's fucking crazy I've always said I want to be cremated But I strangely have One other request That could be kind of funny Like donating My body to like NYU So like hungover Doctorate students Can just Just fuck around with you Could be kind of funny Yeah no I don't want that Don't touch me No you don't want Hungover students No don't touch my body To learn the science I'm donating my whole body To science Okay real What do you think They'll figure out And whatever they don't want Just cremate Are you an organ donor in your life? I am an organ donor. You? Black people have this theory that if you're an organ donor, they don't work as hard in the hospital to save your life. And so you still decided to check organ donor? My best friend died from, she needed a kidney transplant. So, yeah. Would you give Demarish a kidney if you guys were a match? Hell yeah. Ma would not give me his kidney. My kidney good. Ma wouldn't give me Drake tickets. You think he gonna give me a kidney? That's true, yeah. Nah, but it's different. Drake tickets is different. How are they different? You still haven't gotten any speakers that you want. Every bad bitch on Instagram. I got them. Somebody else bought them for me. Every bad bitch on Instagram got drink tickets that year. Well, that person should give you the kidney. Well, they got rid of their kidneys when they got a BBL. Is that how it works? No. They yank your rib and your kidney up? And the kidney. I promise you. I promise you. You can buy kidneys on eBay. There could be just a whole stash house of BBL kidneys just sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Shout out to Bernice Burgos. She said she's a little kid. No, no, no. She said she's getting rid of her BBL. I believe she's getting a reduction, yes. Yeah, she's reducing her BBL. She said, you know, as she gets older, complications, I think, and things like that. She's about to be a great grandmother with all that ass. She looks great, though. She still looks gorgeous. Drop dead gorgeous girl. She had great work done. But, I mean, I did see a lot of girls that went crazy with the BBLs and, like, the 2011-12s get reductions when it stopped being as popular. Yeah. Like, they're just really trying to keep up. The way we've changed from skinny jeans to baggy is like the way chicks are dealing with their butts right now. No, the new thing is. Because the crazy BBL is not in fashion anymore. Yeah, they don't want that no more. It's the gym girlies now. True. That's what's hot. The girls that's in the gym. Shout out to Tiana. Tiana started that wave though. With her faded video. Was that faded? But Tiana has a, I mean this respectfully, a one of one body that I don't know if can really be a team. I don't even think Tiana works out. Without Jesus Christ. Yeah, I don't even think Tiana works out. That's the crazy part. Tiana has had that shape since she was like 16 years old. I just think that's something that's given to you by a higher power. You can't work to get that. No, can't work to get that. Doctor can't do that, nothing. Shout out to Michael B. Jordan. He won Best Actor, right? Did he win at the... SAG Awards. At the SAG Awards. I think he won Actor of the Year. Was this the same one as the Tourette's Awards? No. Oh, he's just been cleaning up. The Tourette's Awards. Did that gentleman stay home at the SAG Awards? No, this is the SAG-AFTRA Awards. Yeah, the SAG-AFTRA Awards. he won was it was it actor of the year? Yes. Outstanding performance Outstanding performance by a male actor in a leading role for his dual performance as twin brothers in Sinners. So if he didn't win was he nominated twice since it was two roles? I see what you did. He should have been right but no. So Mike I see what you did. You rigged the system. They had to nominate you twice. One of y'all was going to win. Whether it was Smoke was it Smoke and Stack? That was the name? Smoke and Stack. Smoke and Stack. Lindsay Lohan walks So Michael B. Jordan Good run Yeah man But shout out to Michael B. Jordan I think he Y'all playing the Eddie Murphy face You're right Thank you What coming to America? Fuck coming to America The Clumps What coming to America Came before the Clumps I know but I'm saying Him and Arsenio Played every role in that movie Yes What I'm saying is The Clumps is I think he played The most characters he ever played I think that any actors ever played Because I think there was around Seven In the Clumps Arsenio Holt played like Six And Nutty Professor Sorry, yeah. I've seen the whole play like six in, I think, six or seven to come into America. I think he was every character in the barbershop. I've seen the whole? Yeah. No, he was one character in the barbershop. He was the barber and he was, well, not himself. No, Eddie Murphy was two characters in the barbershop. He was a Jewish guy and the barber. I've seen the whole was just the barber. Okay. Yeah, Eddie being the Jewish guy was crazy. I just saw a video and I said every morning he had to sit in makeup for like four hours. It looks that way. Put him to transform him to that. but that was like iconic back then because you know a lot of people didn't know that was eddie for years yeah i didn't oh no i didn't i i didn't know probably till sort of recently like within the last 10 years i knew yeah like a lot of people didn't know for years that that was eddie and that was in the coming to america was the 80s right yeah that was in the 80s late 80s so to have makeup done to where they don't can't even tell it's you in the 80s incredible job i mean now it would be considered anti-semitic because he looked like a propaganda poster but exactly neither here nor there right um but the funniest story from coming to america bts to me was that arsenio and eddie after they would shoot would just go to the club still dressed the same way like they would show up as princess in the club in new york city that's so fun i would definitely do that 100 i would definitely do that like yo fuck it i'm leaving the set whatever i got on this big ass cape is staying on me going to the club absolutely but shout out to Michael B. Jordan he definitely deserved that sentence it was a great movie and I love everything that they're giving Michael B. Jordan he's definitely like you can tell they're giving him up to be the next one in Hollywood the next best black male actor in Hollywood well deserved before we get to New Music Friday because there's a lot coming out as you're hearing this I do want to press mall because Twitter told me so I know it's a fact Elon would never lie to me there wasn't a community note it said that Jay Z is dropping an album on April with her. Featuring Beyonce, Travis Scott, and I think somebody else. Okay. What do you know? Like, I don't know shit. All right, well, blink twice. No, no, no, no, no. This has no more lying. You see what I'm saying? Because I keep up with niggas. Any other time we've asked you anything about Jay, you'd be like, man, Jay not rapping. Jay not releasing the album. He be so sure, right? He be so sure. Now it's, I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. You don't never know shit, but still speak on it. I'm just, I'm speaking on it. I don't know. I don't know if he's dropping an album on April 3rd. You don't know if he's dropping an album on April 3rd? So is he dropping an album, period? I don't know. Is there an album? I mean, he is one of the greatest recording artists that we've had. So I'm pretty sure he has access to a studio at some point. Did Dez give you the speech? And if he finds inspiration somewhere, maybe. You know, maybe if it's a beat laying around. Just laying around, right? Yeah, maybe. I'm sure he has an email, right? He has beat packs in his email. Maybe he found some inspiration and decided to record something. And I don't know for sure, but it's not far-fetched. I feel like we need to put an air tag on Guru's laptop case or something and just see if he's around the studio. Well, Guru's always around the studio. I know, but there's certain studios that'd be like, oh, that's with Jay. No, you got it wrong. You got to put an air tag in Jay's dreads. That's how you know when he's in the studio. When do you think I would have the time or opportunity to put an air tag? Opportunity. Audacity. I don't know. But opportunity has sparked. That's a different level. of Audacity. I guess, yes, I've had an opportunity to put an air tag in Jay-Z's dreads. Yes, I've had an opportunity to. You've never had an opportunity to put a fucking air tag. No, no, like I was in the same, I could have, I would have then been met with hands and feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And possibly thrown in a trunk. They would have knocked the air tag out of you. Like a little thing. They would have put me in a barrel, threw me in the ocean with an air tag. You wouldn't even know you had an air tag inside you. You'd be like, where did that come from? Start knocking all the shit out of you. but I mean this was Twitter no disrespect to this account I don't know how valid they are I think it's a Travis Scott like stand page but I did see a lot of people talking about a rumor not so much with a reasonable doubt anniversary shows or anything but also an album before June I'm on the side that I believe it if I get a J and J. Cole album in one year I know that like this might be the year I make a million I forgot Cole put the album out Now if I knock his hat off his head I'm wrong right? I did I forgot We get so much music every week I'm still listening to this one Pretty often To J. Cole the first disc pretty often He won't give the second disc a chance I told him give the second disc No I've given it a few more Again I still have my same critiques I just don't like those certain hooks I still love Cole rapping over the realness I'm never mad at that I just didn't like those hooks Even the let out is growing on me The let out has grown on me I still laugh when I hear it. I just don't skip it. Maul, has the let out grown on you? No. Not at all. I never want to sing Will I Survive the Let Out. I don't want to chant Will I Survive the Let Out and it's never good raps but I hate the hook. I agree with Maul that it's going to take something very specific to inspire Jay at this point in his career to rap because even 444 was what, 2016? Definitely had a reason to rap with Lemonade and everything that was going on in his personal life. Then obviously inspired to do an album with your wife, which is great. Doing one with Jay Electronica, inspired to be around him. What would inspire him now to do a solo project? And how many records would we even get? We might get seven. I can't see anything past 10. I think it's even crazy for 10. Yeah. I just don't know what, I think it, is it, is it maybe him getting to the point in his career and this is just the internet not the real world but the internet has become somewhat of a real world he's starting to get that Eminem shift that he doesn't deserve everyone went from saying Eminem is is is the greatest one of the greatest rappers of all time his discography is incredible and there was a turn and myself I was included in that but that was more so because Em was so active and kept putting out music that I personally didn't Like, didn't take away from his ability or anything, but he was putting out an album every year. Jay has been inactive. And now all of a sudden the tides have turned where he's not as good as he's ever been. His catalog's overrated. He's a scumbag. Like all the shit that- You say this is what people are saying about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But none of that is coming from Jay fans. Like with Eminem, even Eminem's fans switched up on him because his music didn't age well. Yeah, because I was an Eminem fan. Yeah. And then I slowly- That's not- It's not Jay fans doing that. It's not New York doing that. It's because the people who are critiquing music are young and they're getting older and louder. And a lot of them are young and not from New York. They're from the South. And that has always been kind of a pocket of the South thing where they say that Jay-Z is overrated. That's always been a thing ever since even when I was growing up. So I think that's completely different. Eminem's music just has not aged well and y'all turned on him. I think this is a completely different crew. but I think Jay in his latter part of his career a lot of what did inspire him was to talk about what he was doing in business and what he was doing outside of music and I think he's been heavily critiqued on that like the music thing is whatever I think that's the internet thing but there is still Jay-Z fans that I feel have a different perspective of how he's moved whether it be with the Super Bowl stuff what he's been doing with the casinos like I do think Jay has a lot of stuff to address and I could see somebody that feels like they're doing the right thing for the community for everyone else and for themselves to line their pockets why the fuck not yeah I'd get pissed off be like you know what let me rap and explain myself because y'all are bugging this new perception of me I'm not saying in a sensitive way I'm saying in a flexing way the way Jay has always taken things that people would may not be sensitive about and he privately could be sensitive about them but has a beautiful way of bragging about them instead I just don't I don't know if Jay is there and like he really doesn't care about that enough to want to go and make music based on that based on responding to things that he's either seen or heard people say about him like that's not like even look at it like like 444 we know why that album happened right the Jay Lick album we know why that album that's one of his favorite rappers like he does things it's not it's not to respond to you know noise that's not what jay he doesn't create from that so if jay is creating new music now and he's recording new music now it's it's it's attached to something it's not just it's not just oh no they talking crazy about me online and they must have forgot who i am and that's that that's not jay is not that's not his that doesn't that doesn't motivate him he doesn't he's always been uh done a great job at you know sidestepping bullshit and avoiding that type of thing but you're right when he does decide to rap it's always you know those little nuances in there where he's reminding people like don't get it fucked up like y'all know where i sit among all of this shit but today now after almost when did did J-Luck album come out? 2020. Six years? I just don't see that. If he is creating music, it's definitely attached to something personal, something bigger, something, you know, that's a part of, you know, the family. It's something in that. It's not because, you know, just online talking and what people on podcasts and platforms are saying about him. It's none of that. Like he's not, that's not who he is. He doesn't, he doesn't entertain that type of shit and he doesn't create from that energy. Um, I hear you. I'm going to give some pushback there cause I do feel like on every album, Jay has always kind of replied instead of doing direct interviews and doing the whole, he'll sit with Angie, but he won't do a full like press run. He'll do the breakfast club when it's at its peak. And he's always replied to everything in his rhymes, even with the Jay Electronica written testimony. on the album he replies to everything that was said about the nfl he said i got more money than a whole nfl bench why would i sell out i would have tackled it if they could have handled the shit themselves like he he has a whole verse addressing everyone that was hating on him at the beginning when that was announced now it's been six seven years and it's gotten a lot of flack of of what is really happening outside of uh and racism in the end zone so yeah i can see j still having that competitive like yo what the fuck mentality and i think he's probably learned a lot with this casino bidding and and that's a whole different monster outside of music clothing alcohol different world it's a a completely different world now we're getting into politics now we're talking about uh he's already into politics for you for sure but like really greasing politicians behind the scenes to get bids and like it's a it's a different monster when you're dealing with casinos in Times Square. Right. I think that with the brain that he has could inspire you to make music and still have a chip on your shoulder of like, I gave y'all 20 years and this is how I'm being treated right now? Yeah. This is crazy. I'm just, you know what it is though? I just, obviously I kind of don't ever want Jay to put music out again. You said that. And I'm always on the other side. Because I just, it's like, you know, even though selfishly, like, you know, I would love to hear him still create and rap because I know he's still in shape, but it's just like, you know, create the album for what? For, you know, this new generation to be online within 15 minutes of the album dropping, saying, this is y'all goat, this shit is trash. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, it's just that part of it where I just don't care. I'm just like, no, let's let his legacy stay where it is. Nobody, no other rapper, just full MC rapper is touching what Jay has done. But we both know Jay actively, actively, actively pays attention to everything currently going on. Oh, for sure. Like when everyone was like when Flex no pun intended dropped the bomb that Jay has a secret burner Like is that that crazy to think that Jay has a Twitter and Instagram that no one knows about that He just scrolls on He actively is signing young young artists at rock nation being part of their projects putting like, he's active. He knows what the fuck is going online. I can't think with a Jay Z brain, you wouldn't still have a bunch to say as the elder statesman about everything that's currently going on. Because even down, we even see a professor, uh, Michael Eric Dyson has said that Jay called him, about his take between the Kendrick and Drake thing. Everyone thought that was insane. I was like, I mean, I'm an outsider. And even I know that Hov calls everyone not to confront them or press. Like, he's just as interested in the shit the way we are. Just to have more dialogue. The way we debate about URL shit, Jay-Z does the same thing. Him and Emery talk about URL. Like, yeah, I don't think it's that crazy. So I think he has a lot of opinions of what is currently going on, which could give you 10 records. Oh no, for sure. Plus I got three kids. Blue is a teenager now. There's a lot to talk about. Oh no, there's definitely a lot to talk about. I just don't know if he's creating seven to ten to twelve tracks. Yeah, that's a lot. Ten records when you have that much going on is I think harder than I think people could realize. Selfishly, as somebody that grew up in that era and was so close to the music. Yeah, I want to hear them. It's just like watching your favorite artists just still spar and just show you that they still are sharp. Please just don't give me the 30th anniversary. Don't give me reasonable doubted. I don't want... Reasonably doubted? Reasonably doubted. I don't want that. I want it to be a whole separate thing that just happens to fall on the 30th anniversary like yeah i do not want the part to i hate that that shit so much yeah so but we'll see how did you feel about um the uproar of jay-z calling michael eric dyson what was the uproar i didn't see that well he he um was talking with steven a smith and we again we don't have to fully get into this bad jay was talking to steven a no uh michael eric dyson was talking to him he's been very um i wouldn't say pro drake but very much on the side of questioning Drake's blackness is an issue for the community overall. Calling him a culture vulture is a problem for the community overall. Doubting anything that Drake has done. Also crossing the line with pedophile because it's the internet now. I understand rap battles, but with social media, calling someone that in this era is a little bit more dangerous than it was on mixtapes when you were just rapping about whatever. So he said that with Stephen A. Smith. Then he was doing an interview. Ryan, if you could look it up, I forgot who he was sitting with, but he had said that, you know, Jay calls him often and Jay gave him a call and said he was wrong, more or less. That Michael Eric Dyson was wrong about his point of view on the Drake-Kendrick battle. Okay. And he didn't give any details. That's why this is a hard conversation to have because you're completely speculating on what Jay said to him. All he said was he disagreed with this point and very respectfully and eloquently um said his piece on the entire thing but didn't give any i don't even know what jay said all i know is he disagreed with i don't know the little details he disagreed i don't know anything but there was a huge uproar that he was doing this to backdoor drake like michael eric dyson is now going to control like the internet was internetting but i mean i'm curious what you think because you're part of of both families like i feel like you're you're the Farrakhan in this situation. I'm the Farrakhan. Of where, of who could solve these two these two back and forths. Between Eric Dyson and Jay. Jay and Drake. Between, but there's no back and forth though. I don't know why people think there's a back and forth between Jay and Drake. Drake has never publicly said anything to Jay or directed at Jay or in the music said anything directed at Jay. I've always thought 30 for 30 freestyle was about it. They definitely had some back and forth. Even on the Jaylech, Jay-Z, the Soulja Boy, the We Made It beat. Sorry, Ms. Drizzy, I'm talking about Peyton's, that whole shit. They've had their little shots back and forth, but they made music afterwards. But that's not a shot, though. Call Me Ms. Drizzy is a little bit of a tiny shot. And I think Drake deserved it. I think people speak freely. And when you print something that wasn't supposed to be printed and you can't even hear the tone in it, it's unfair. But what was printed, Jay had every right to shoot back a trick. Yeah, but I don't think that, again, I think that sometimes we misinterpret lines and bars from artists. We've actually seen that happen where artists actually speak about the bars that they've written and recorded when they say people took it out of context. And I think a lot of times, because Jay is very direct. If he's going to go ask somebody. he said sorry Mr. Drizzy for so much art talk silly me rap about all the shit that I bought I mean it wasn't like warranted a diss record back but they've been throwing little shots I think 30 for 30 freestyle was about him we've always agreed to disagree about Jay conspiring a bit with Meek during that time here's my thing Jay wouldn't call Drake Mr. Drizzy he wouldn't refer to Drake as Mr. Drizzy that was always the debate whether he said Mr. Drizzy or Mr. Drizzy if you listen to it it's very hard to Let me assure you something. Jay would never refer to Drake as Miss Drizzy. He would not do that. He wouldn't do that. That's not his style. I mean, that quote was kind of nuts. Ryan, can you pull up the quote of what Drake had said about Jay? Again, Drake had said, yo, I never told anyone to print that. That was completely taken up. I think Drake was fucking around, joking. But when you just read it, it sounds kind of nuts. Yeah, but they've never, again, I think that's something that the internet- They made three songs after that shit happened. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's something that the internet just created and tried to put some credence to. But there's no back and forth between Jay and Drake. Now, whether privately they feel a way about each other, that's a whole different thing. I think they probably have some interesting feelings. We don't know that, but I'm just saying publicly there's no back and forth between Jay and Drake. If Jay and Drake had an issue with each other, it would be clear. We wouldn't have to speculate and dissect, you know, bars and think, oh, who is he talking? It would be very direct, very blatant from two of the best rappers that we've ever had. Like, they know exactly how to direct lines and shit at each other. But you do agree they've thrown small jabs at each other. I want to get started. But jabs and rap has always been a thing. Oh, yeah. that's 30 30 freestyle again i think that first eight bars are all about hove i don't think they're about meek like which i thought drake handled that very well like okay i see what y'all trying to do over here now i know there's a separation now now i get it yeah but i but but again i don't think that you know we've got it's not much to that i think that's more the internet just trying to do with it and it does so we can get off anything drake kendrick related can you spec speculate quickly what you think jay may have said about michael eric dyson's uh take on it I think he may have said that Michael Eric Dyson probably looked Too deep into it I don't think it was as deep as he was probably trying to make it out The scene I think it was more Similar thoughts Surfaced more you know it wasn't I think because Michael Eric Dyson is you know He's a thinker He's brilliant You know what I'm saying but I just don't It was probably that it was probably like I don't think it was that Deep of a thought Or it could be the opposite or he could just be like Nah you know whatever Kendrick said wasn't wrong if he felt that way like you know he's free to express that it could have went either way but I just don't it wasn't nothing malicious like oh nah like you know like he was supposed to say that about Drake like it wasn't nothing like that. I think he was debating the way we all call our friends after a rap battle. Personally I really think he said there's no real rules to a rap battle you're overthinking yeah Kendrick can say that. Something along those lines probably yeah i know you did a thousand word op-ed about the entire thing but sometimes it ain't that and it's just a wrap yeah sometimes it's just not that it's not as deep as people think it is yeah so yeah i'm on that side no worry at mall mall what can you do with 600 don't answer that because i know it was some devious thoughts but that is boost mobile proving that you don't have to overpay with the major carriers you can only pay 25 a month forever with their unlimited plan. You're saving $600. Think of the things you can do with that $600. Stop overpaying and switch to a fair price at BoostMobile.com today, Mo. 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Listen to DJ Hester-Krin's Music is Therapy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, so while we're on music, New Music Friday, all of this is out right now. We have not heard it, obviously, because we're recording on a Thursday. There is a rumor that we're getting a 50 Cent record. I do not believe that, but that was on New 50 raps? That was on Reputable DSP. Y'all said y'all wanted 50 to rap, right? Well, he said he was going to do the doc and I don't think he can turn that doc around that quickly, but I don't think it's a diss. If 50 Cent is dropping a song, it's just a 50 Cent song. Oh, well, if 50's dropping music and he's not dissing T.I., I don't want to hear it. Oh, I thought y'all said when are we going to be done with this? Now y'all want to hear it if it's a diss. I don't want to hear them rap, Eddie. If 50 was active and constantly putting music out, alright, cool, whatever. But now you decide to rap and it's not about T.I.? You can miss me on that. So they're saying they think a documentary is coming. Well, 50 straight up said that there's one containing the allegations against Tiny and T.I. with certain sexual abuse, sexual misconduct, alleged charges. Which, I mean, has been in the news forever. It's not like he exposed something that people didn't know about. But yes, he claims he's doing a doc. about that entire thing. 50, he gonna respond in his way, ain't he? Mm-hmm. He gonna be like, listen, everything I was gonna say was in this documentary. Hey, man. It just didn't rhyme? Yeah, you can be, listen, I know people like, oh, 50 gotta get in the booth. What if he don't rap no more? Like, I'm not going, like, if somebody call out Michael Jordan right now, he's supposed to play them? Yeah, I don't want. It's like, nigga, I don't hoop no more. Like, I'm over here winning NASCAR circuits and shit. Like, I'm over here getting a billion dollars a year the sneaker sales. Like, I'm not about to get on the court with LeBron and play one-on-one. Like, I'm not doing that for what? To me, it makes sense. I think when everyone hears this, there's nothing from 50 that happens today. No. That's just my prediction. I could be completely wrong, but my guess is no. There will be nothing. Saha did put out a trailer of, like, some of the footage from Mad Square Garden when St. Pablo came out to tease the record, the good music breakup. this is my side and obviously the last two records in high rhyming shape so i'm curious to hear this out of the entire thing because between the drink champs interviews kanye like it was an unfair i felt how he spoke about big sean was really unfair we got the i'm not going to diagnose anyone but we got the asperger kanye through that entire thing of the self-awareness was not all the way there when he was talking with nori he was having fun he was making jokes on drink champs on drink champs two times he's he's talked about he's he's even dissed si hi on donda um uh life of the party which the record never made but he dissed si hi on that um i'm curious of si hi's perspective of this entire thing we got we kind of got sean is just a a classy person. So we didn't get probably some of the mess that we, we could have gotten. I don't think Saha really gives a fuck. About Kanye? No, not that. About keeping it classy. Keeping it. Let's keep everything in the family. I think, think Sean, I've met Sean's mother. She's a lovely woman. He was just, I think he was just raised to hold shit down. Even when he was disrespected, he said his piece and kind of just kept it moving. and focused on his own self, focused on his own peace. I think Saha is not out here for blood, but Saha does not give a fuck if the whole world knows the story. Yeah. And I see both of those type of people. I've been both of those people. I've been on the peace side. I've also been on, I don't really give a fuck. But I want to hear Saha talk about this stuff. So do I. Because he has a perspective that I don't think any of us obviously have and probably even have any idea about. And he has a way with words, right? So We know the way he's going to say it Yes Is going to be entertaining But also informative So yeah I'm always down to hear Saha's I'm just happy that Saha's rapping I'm happy that he's putting out music I know y'all feel the way about the Cole thing But even that I like It's just Like you said It's just rap Like I'm not It's not a malicious thing Or you know Nothing like that And obviously You know what Cole said on False Prophets He still you know Remembered that And felt the way about that But it's just good that a rapper like Saha who again we hate that he doesn't put out music as much as he probably should or as much as we would want him to because he's a phenomenal MC and a great artist but just to see him recording put music out like in that in that rhythm I'm here for that yeah and I mean of course they've while they're listening to this they probably already heard the Saha record at midnight but he has a different perspective than I think anyone at good music of course Sean is wrote for for Kanye. Everyone has written for Kanye that was on good music, but I don't think anyone has written as much as Saha was like his right hand. He's locked in the studio. He's a great right hand to have. He's there every day. He's seen every up and down, every personal thing, every opinion. Right hand, right hand. That boy pain cold, ain't it? It's because I text Saha. That's why you my right hand. Because I text Saha, I was able to come up with that. it rubs off when you text someone of that pen level. So yeah, as much as Sean, yes, has been in so many sessions with Ye, written a lot of stuff, I don't think anyone has probably spent as much personal time locked in a studio with Kanye the way Si has. Consequence maybe would be a close one as well. But even Con's wasn't fully signed to good music. He's been, Si has been an artist signed to him and been his writer. So I think you get all the tea for lack of a better term with this one. I just hate that we record him before it come out. Cause I know there's some shit on there. I know he talking some shit, but I like that we get to come in on Monday and same be, we've had the whole weekend to listen. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't mind not being the first to react. I want to be, I want to, I want to react to the, to the truth as close to the truth as possible. Yeah. So like if a song comes out and you know what I'm saying? Like I'd rather us have the weekend to live with it and kind of just like, you know, really, you know, take it in and listen to it as opposed to it dropping and then an hour later we're sitting on the mic like, yo, that shit is trash. It's like, come on. Everybody just races to be the first one to have a clip out about something and I get it. That's the content world, but you haven't even really had a chance to listen. Yeah, when music is tough. I like a song, I get it. I don't want to be first. I want to be right. The side shit I think is going to have a lot of gossip in there and I don't mean that in a bad way. So I think that, yeah, I think all the streamers at midnight are going to be sitting there dissecting that entire thing because it's going to be a lot of gossip. It's just one song. But like full projects, no, I like that we wait till Monday for that. Before we get off music, I just want to highlight the music that's out now of what I'm personally looking forward to. Wait, is Pimmy dropping a song or album? Pimmy is dropping a project. Oh, man. Don't come home. Yeba too? There's a little Yeba Pimmy. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm so excited for midnight. Bro, between Yeba and Pimmy, Who has the better interludes on Drake's albums? Pimmy You said that too fast I don't like that The Pimmy joint wasn't It was called an interlude It wasn't an interlude It was a full fucking record Yep Yeba's heartbreak is really an interlude Yeah That's really an interlude Pimmy's song That's a song But you got And I fuck with Pimmy's one of the artists That I'm really excited for Yeba to me is like One of the best vocalists She's incredible Yeba is Yeba dog She's been around like These are albums Yes These are projects the ones that we're getting a lot of now i am at the edge of my motherfucking seat i almost texted y'all at midnight when i saw that they teased it but i knew y'all would just clown me i cannot believe in narles barkley album fire coming out at midnight yeah danger mouse and c-low are putting how long has it been over 50 what maybe 20 years yeah i was in summer school when Crazy came out. Fam, me and Biggs went to, that's when they was doing the concerts in Central Park, the free concerts. And Norris Barkley did one. When I tell you we was in Central Park, high out of our minds. How would I love to see that? Grooving to Norris Barkley in the middle of Central Park. Like, I will never forget that. So to know that we getting a new Norris Barkley album. Yeah, I mean, I can't even start to say like what St. Elsewhere like did to my life. Like it shaped a lot of, the way I talk about N.E.R.D. as well, how that shaped how I listen to music. St. Elsewhere was that for me in high school as well. I'm not just boom bapping my life away anymore. I cannot wait for Danger Mouths and CeeLo to put a fucking project out. And you know what? Here's my bias, guys. If it stinks, I'm coming in here and saying I love it. I respect that. I love CeeLo and Danger Mouths too much. I respect that At least you saying it. At least you saying you about to come in here and be biased. I respect that. And I'm going in with very high expectations, which could make it worse. Yeah. No, I 100% respect that, Rory. But I am very much excited for Yeba to give us a full project. It's also been a while. Pimmy again, one of my favorite new artists. Shout out J. Skis and Ill Beats. Yes. J. Skis. Shout out J. Skis. The Good Part Volume 1. Ill Tone Beats. The Good Part Volume 1. So you know how I feel about Skis. One of the dopest MCs. Yes. Everyone, please look up J. Skis. One of the best lyricists out right now from Buff. We talked about him during the On the Radar shit. Lurizi's one of my favorite new rappers as well from New Orleans. Leader of the Youth EP comes out. And then we have Ty Dolla $ign, Girl Music, Volume 1. I love the single. Did you know Ty going to be on there talking crazy? I love the single. And if you got Ant and Leon also working on it. Yeah. Ty owes us one, man. For sure. Her album? He just always won. The featuring Todd Alassane was a letdown for me. The title was so great. Since Free TC, which I hate saying this about an artist that I'm not guessing. I think Todd Alassane is iconic. I really think he's one of the most important artists of this generation by far. Absolutely. From the sound right to talent level. He's just got to give us one. And I know this is just an EP. Yeah. But when it's time to give us that album, Free TC to me is a classic, my own personal classic. But after that, it's kind of been a mixed bag with projects, even though he's delivered some of the best music in the last 15 years. Some of the best features with other artists. Songs, like shit, even the Vulture shit with Kanye is incredible. It was just bad timing and everyone pretended to hate it because they had to. But there's great music on there. Yeah. I just want that proper Ty album. The same way I wanted the proper Chris Brown album, the way people want the proper Drake rap album, I want the proper Ty Dolla $ign R&B. And I hope him doing an EP means he's gearing up to get back in that bag and stop writing and giving everyone else in the world all his amazing shit. Because if you go through all the records that people have from Ty Dolla $ign, they didn't ask Ty to get on it. Ty gave them that record and then they got on it. So he got Brandy on his project, Leon Thomas, and Ron Isley. That Ron Isley probably is a sample, but... What you mean, sample? Nah. They get Ron in the studio. No, for sure. He's still out here? I don want to get excited about it because it an AI overview So it could the same way that people thought Janet was on Cardi B album It could just be a sample That wasn Miss Jackson No. No, I'm bad. Okay. I'm bad. So yeah, Girl Music Volume 1. Obviously, this thing was out with Leon Thomas now. And then my guy, Isaiah Falls has a record coming out, Taboo, which I'm looking forward to because I fuck with anything. Isaiah Falls. Oh yeah, it's going to be one of those weekends. Yeah, but Pimmy. A lot of R&B. Yeah, man. Girl music. Skis. I don't know if I'm listening to your project this weekend, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. It's too much R&B. I gotta get through Gnarls Barkley. Yeah, I might have to check you during the week, man. I ain't gonna lie. And I left this up here. I don't know the gentleman's name, and I don't mean this with any disrespect, but I don't know if there's a tie here. Young Maul is putting on a record called True. I don't want to let y'all know. I kind of snuck my... You wrote that? I ain't my bad. I kind of snuck my... I figured maybe it was your nephew at his 10th birthday. Y'all recording something. Yeah, we made some joints there. I kind of snuck my EP in there, man. Atlanta-based rapper, singer, and songwriter who blends rapid-fire trap with street-level lyrics. Who from the label wrote that? Young Maul. Okay. Let me check it out. He's 26. Let me check it out. See what he talking about on there. I mean, that's when Hov made Reasonable Doubt. So you got to think Young Maul, 26, Hov, 26. This could be the one. Check out Young Maul. I don't know if we ever shouted out Joyce Rice for Break Me In, but that's going to be like one of my songs. Oh, I thought we did already. I can't. No, I don't remember. Let's mention it. I can't. Oh yeah, that record's incredible. I cannot stop playing it. It's fucking amazing. Yo, she had posted. Well, I'm not sure if you know like the context of that record. It went me in. I can only imagine what Joyce is, what you meant by breaking me in. It's more of a metaphor. I've been so wild lately. Baby, he needs you to come and tame me. Joyce dyed her hair. She got like the strawberry, like the blonde going, the honey blonde. Joyce is making some good music. With the orange, yeah. Joyce, what you doing in L.A., man? It's funny. She posted because her pops came to the video set. You know, her dad is rightfully so, so supportive of her career, which is beautiful to watch. She posted a text message from him. She said, baby, I can't explain to my friends what this song is about. Yeah, nah. I can't let the homies know, like, yeah, my daughter just dropped this new joint. Like, nah, they got to miss this one. But definitely check out Joyce Rice. That record is really, really good. And yeah, she's gearing up to put a full project out. This is definitely a Joyce Stan podcast for sure. My girl. Do we want to stay music? Might as well. I'm skipping over the TI names himself with Jay Kendrick, Andre 3000, Wayne Scarface, Eminem, and Jay Electronica because I agree with him. And do. What do you mean? I don't think any of those people should be named next to Jay. But other than that. If we're doing an overall GOAT, I don't think there has to be one GOAT. T.I. was on Ebro in the Morning with Laura Stiles and Rosenberg. And, you know, they were doing more of the top five conversation, this and that. And they started throwing names around and T.I. was like getting me. And I feel him. I do too. Well, you're supposed to. No, but it's not about. I still think Tib is there. Do you agree with him? Not what he thinks. Do you agree with his thoughts? That T.I. is one of the best rappers we've ever had? Yes. Yeah, I agree. Okay. That's what I'm listening. Lyrics, singles, discography, changed the entire sound. Yeah. Vocabulary. He checks every box that you could think of. For sure. So if I'm T.I., I'd probably be a little mad that my name's not brought up more in these types of conversations. Yeah. Because he's there. Checked every box. I mean, listen, man. Y'all know I love Andre 3000, but he ain't got no solo project. at least ti got solo albums classic one yeah so at least yeah he he's he's right there yes absolutely um i saw rafael sadiq had posted or somebody i assume it was him i don't know if someone's on his team but on uh his ig account sadiq moves he had posted rafael sadiq d'angelo and maxwell are not neo soul artists sorry but that's the truth neo soul was a term created by one black executive purely as a shorthand. It helped labels internally identify which acts would not require crossover marketing budgets. Those funds were reserved for pop boy bands. That word, Neil Soul, signaled to executives in marketing meetings these black artists might sell 150 to 350K, maybe half a million if they're really good. One million at best. It had nothing to do with the sound of the music. Hip hop was created by the people. I use that term often, but I feel him. He's definitely correct. I hear him. He's correct. Because I mean I've been at labels where urban became the big word. I think now at labels traditional R&B is the new code word for we can only give we can only allocate so much budget to this artist because we know they're not going to sell as much because traditional R&B is not selling the way it used to sell. So I feel him. It did, but it did also coin a genre to me. I can see from their perspective, but as a fan that when I was younger, did not care about who sold what, I was in his business, I honestly did not give a fuck if D'Angelo sold one record or 2 million records. It wasn't even in my brain at that time. It did help me discover artists like him and people within that genre so i feel rafael sadiq but the other side of that coin is a 12 13 year old kid that just likes soul quarians and just wants to discover more music yeah when i was at any record store trying to buy cds like i went to the neo soul section like it was helpful i know that probably fucked them over but it helped me discover a whole genre i mean hip-hop had a lot to do with helping with neo soul a lot with the roots and like it's tied in yeah it's it's the it's the same genre to some degree and even putting together something like the soquarians and what the roots were doing at geffen of how they got to pop was because they got below they got a whole crew around them where you could share fan bases and yeah i hear them but that helped young fans discover music i'm gonna be honest i i don't know maybe my timelines are wrong but i can't really remember neo soul really becoming a thing until i think like music soul child yo you put the words right out of my mouth like music and uh what's uh india re yeah yeah like you know like yeah i'm not my hair was definitely the neo souls song that was on the radio like i'm again i couldn't have my time but i don't remember really hearing people even say the word neo soul until music soul child because obviously the success that he had with his sing his first single and you know his first album and things like that um but before that it was r&b it was you know i mean it was hip-hop it wasn't you know maybe jazz obviously jazz and soul but it wasn't neo so i don't remember people even saying that i mean i i always when i was younger i always put when did music soul child's first album come out i was first i'm not sure but if it like when he popped with Best Friend was 2002. 2000. 2000? Yeah, I Just Want to Sing was 2000. So yeah, around that time. Fucking classic album. That's where a blend of R&B, Neo Soul, funk. I didn't really start hearing the word Neo Soul until What's so funny about that, I kind of remember. Maxwell, maybe. Maybe a little bit you heard the word Neo Soul. Maybe. Urban Hanks Weed was, I remember it being, and the second album as well, being Neo Soul. I remember I remember Music Soul Child was more of the crossover like he's crossing over from Neo Soul at the time. I think that's why that became a thing because I'm saying these artists are maybe 500,000, maybe a million you know what I'm saying but like I think Maxwell was still very much identified as an R&B artist. Look up Music Soul Child Don't Change. I want to say 06. and there was also an aesthetic that went along with the neo soul like incense in the video bigger movement like there was that was a whole thing so like when he said i understand what he's saying but like doesn't oh my god everything originates from something and the meaning of things change so yes that may be how it originated but you can't say these artists are not neo soul because for what neo soul became yes they are and i can understand when it comes to things like awards or budgets why you might not want to be classified as certain things but to the people to the culture that is what you are and i think that is something that you should be proud of i mean okay i hear you saying it's still it was still a way it was like a code word in the marketing meetings of how much money to allocate to the budget for this particular which makes artist and sound which was like it's kind of unfair because it's like yo why are y'all just trying to create smaller budgets for this sound but even if you were just soul or even if you were just r&b you would have gotten shorted either way you would have gotten shorted either way yeah it's a shorthand but you would have got it shorted you would have got it shorted anyway either way but even like do you guys feel like the untitled video d'angelo to me that is a a pure r&b video like there's nothing which one untitled there's there's nothing neo quote unquote neo soul about D'Angelo's V pause. Like that's an R&B greased up type of video. The video the song has a neo soul sound it might have been. Oh for sure the song is neo soul. You guys are talking about visuals like do I think a window seat, boom bap drums, Erykah Badu window seat she's walking around where JFK was assassinated butt ass naked and then gets assassinated at the end. I guess someone would put the conscious title on Neo Soul there and it has boom bap drums, to me that would be considered a stereotypical Neo Soul video, which I mean respectfully because I'm sure Miss Badu does not consider herself Neo Soul or that Neo Soul. I think that's just her art. But to me that would be categorized more by a label as Neo Soul than Untitled. That's a sexy ass R&B video. Yeah. I'm a lot younger so whenever I would hear D'Angelo growing up, I would automatically contributed to Neosol. Like, incense should be burning when I'm playing it. 50 cents. Shout out to D'Angelo. He determined not to fail. He went butt ass for his album to sell. There you go. Oh, I missed the early 2000s. Good times. Great time, man. But I feel Rafael Sadiq in that way. And I also think when that was, when Neosol was even being talked about, I think it was such a huge difference from the R&B that was currently popular because the R&B at the time in the early 2000s that was currently popular was not regular soul R&B. It was very much attached to hip hop. It was, it was attached to Boom Bap. Cause I, of course I wasn't in the labels in the early 2000s, but when things were starting to shift and it went less of what Boom Bap was and more to what, say Rough Riders, Rockefeller, Murder Inc. was doing, R&B was also shifting, but you still had the boom bap rappers that they were like well we can't if black star wants to do a major deal we're only going to give them this amount because we think they're going to sell this based off that sound and that was those r&b artists too but meanwhile maxwell and d'angelo so crazy yeah i shit erica badu did as well oh for sure like they sold more than half a million on that that time so but i think that's what they do with traditional r&b now yeah like they call coco Jones traditional R&B and I think that's fucked up like I get why but I the code words what Rafael Sadiq is talking about is we think this type of music can only sell this amount exactly and Coco's I think surpassed what people thought of traditional R&B in the new era but even the fans would call her traditional R&B and they have no idea about anything budget related she's traditional R&B because she is traditional R&B for sure but it's become in the labels the way Rafael Sadiq is saying I never viewed Neo Soul. I thought Neo Soul was a stat. I didn't know behind the scenes it was a death threat. Yeah. I think traditional, when Coco Jones walks in, knowing she makes real traditional R&B music, I don't think she views the marketing team going, well, you're traditional R&B in a positive way. Yeah. Shit. We watched Ari Lennox, rightfully so, go on Twitter with the Soul Train awards and like okay you guys put me under soul but then don't even properly pitch me to the soul train awards yeah stop putting me in these fucking categories that you know are designed for me to fail right so i can't put us in a box i get it but i mean even uh d'angelo someone i've retweeted a old interview d'angelo saying like he didn't particularly like the term he is i make soul music. I don't make Neo soul music. What is Neo soul? It's a Matrix thing. Exactly. It's the soundtrack to the Matrix. But I don't know. Do we nerd out too much Peej? Ryan was... Well we're a music podcast. I like when we talk about music and not, you know. See now you're boxing us in. That's how they do the Neo soul. We're not a music podcast. We're a Neo podcast. We're an entertainment podcast is what I always schedule us under. Netflix put us under comedy. And you niggas, it's some jokes. Just my existence. Oh yeah, no, we were British to begin with. We were conquered by the British. Kind of an homage to your people, Rory. Billy Idol says smoking crack helped him quit heroin. Billy, I feel you. I can dig it. That shit make perfect sense to me. I can dig it. Listen, if Billy Idol said it, he lived it. He said it worked. I'm going to take his word for it. Now, how did he get off the crack? Did he say that part? No, he's still on the crack. Oh, he's still on the crack. Crack is not as bad as heroin, though. Heroin will kill you. I ain't never seen a crackhead die. No, crackheads don't die. You ain't never been to a crackhead funeral. You ain't never been to a funeral. Like, yo, what happened to something? Yo, crack. Never. It's never happened. I've been to funerals where I know people smoke crack, but they didn't die because of crack. They didn't die because of crack. Niggas died from O.H. Yeah. Niggas died from a cigarette before they died from crack. Courts at S. Like, what happened? He was smoking what? Crack? No, cigarettes. yeah I guess of course you could probably overdose from crack we know that but I feel like when you smoke crack you want to go on an adventure right away until the high like you don't have time to od because you're it's adventure time yeah crack is only what like we have to wear out until if maybe five minutes something like that like yeah which is crazy yeah it's a quick high it's just a quick quick joke you know what I mean it's like drinking a red bull okay I don't I I've drank red bulls I just don't think it's like smoking crack maybe c4 Or C4 makes your skin crawl. It doesn't crack do that? Oh, no, that's heroin. Yeah, no. Don't put that on crack. Peeze, what were you huffing in London? The shit that Kanye was addicted to? The whippets? No, he wasn't doing whippets in London. The nitrous oxide? Yeah, the nitrous. Peeze wasn't huffing that. He found out he walked out the bar and was just on the street, right? Somebody got out that bar and went crazy. Went right to the nitrous? It was wild as fuck. Isn't that like laughing gas, kind of? Yeah, I think so. Hmm. You just saw that they The FDA approved The new Johnson & Johnson nasal spray That has ketamine in it Did y'all see that? Word Oh the next generation This new generation coming up They about to be all fucked in the head That's like you can go buy that at CVS Like they gonna be huffing ketamine now Like Well I'm sure it's like a small Small amount Just kind of like how That just means buy the whole box Cough syrup it Yeah true That's all that means Buy the box Spravato That's what Britney needs to be on Treatment resistant depression oh I'm telling you they about to go crazy on this just remember but that sounds like something I have to get prescribed this is yeah but is that one of those that treats depression that causes depression of course because like because like Paxil treats depression but one of the side effects is suicide yeah like this is this is that's not a joke it's an actual thing yeah nah this is I'm scared I'm scared for this bravado thing that's like Carmex y'all think Carmex is fixing y'all lips but if y'all stop using Carmex for two days, suddenly your lips are the chattest they've ever been. It's fucking you up. Just drink more water. You're just dehydrated. Well, not me. I don't have that problem. Well, I'm not saying you. People who use Carmex, their lips after three days be fucked up again. There's glass in it. There's glass in Carmex? Our intern told us there's glass in Carmex. This is why we used to young people around. But even like Blistex, which I use, I'm more of a Burtz guy. But even Burtz... Carmex stopped using glass jars in 1996. the rumor that Carmex contains tiny glass shards is a false long-standing urban legend designed to explain sensations of irritation or addictive use. Well, in Ryan's defense, I don't know if the government double-checked. They may have just said they stopped Jesus. Yeah, that was just the... I'm not sure that that was really testing. And can we ask how many people actually finish a jar of Carmex? Or a Ballistex. How many people actually finish it? Get to the bottom of that? It's impossible. And the jars of anything lip balm related. Like get a stick though. Digging your dirty ass finger in that and then just rubbing your lip like. I mean, but it's your finger. You know how many things I touch in New York City? It's still your finger. Yeah, but you should be washing your hands before you put your. I agree. I'm saying everyone that I've watched open that little container. I've never watched them wash their hands before they do it. Oh yeah, no. People are dirty. Just get a stick. 99% of people. It's considered a rare accomplishment with some estimates suggesting as many as 99% of people never actually finish one before losing it. That's Navy SEAL shit. Only Navy SEALs finish. If you see somebody pull a chapstick out their pocket and it's almost empty, psycho. 100%. Psycho. How do you still have that? How do you still have that? No, Warrior Mall. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet Mall. You know that's Florida's sports book. Absolutely. 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Because a DUI doesn't mean you were drinking alcohol. She was booked under a vehicle call that says it's illegal or unlawful for a person who was under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug to drive a vehicle. So these charges related to drugs and alcohol will be sent to Ventura County District Attorney's Office. So she must have been on a combination of both, which is actually easy to do, even if you're not an addict. You fuck around and have a drink and you had a Xanax earlier. And so we don't know, but they said she was driving erratically. well it had to be over I think the California limit is 0.08 or whatever that also had to be in effect if you're also in a DUI yeah but normal people drive over the limit all the time like the limit is not high no of course not it like it one beer if that or something but either way I not saying what her dad did was right with her estate and that entire thing but clearly there been some things, man. Every day with Knives doing this shit. She's got ninja stars. That's just theater. She's in her house. That's her TikTok series? Yeah, she's in her crib. No, but all just aside though, hopefully Britney Spears is okay and this is just a night out of partying at a friend's house or something like that. I mean, outside of the obvious of hoping she's okay, just on a human level, I do like want Britney to get better so she could give us a tour as well. That'd be on my bucket list to go see Britney Spears a lot. Like if she's in Britney shape to do like a residency in Vegas, she wouldn't want to go see Britney Spears? Absolutely. She did that. She had a residency in Vegas. Is there a reason I saw no footage? No, she had a residency in Vegas. What year? It got canceled? She was scheduled for a second one 2013 and 2017 at Plenty Hollywood Resort and Casino One of the most successful Las Vegas resident seats in history That was 2013, I'm saying in this era That would be great to see Seeing Britney at the Sphere Toxic at the Sphere I used to have this crazy poster of Britney Spears on my wall Well she was dressed in huh? Nah, she had on like, she had on like this, I want to say like this silver skirt and a silver like top. I remember that shit though. I know I had the first album with the flower joint. That was definitely on my wall. It's so crazy. If you go back to the like Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears videos that I used to watch on TRL that like TMI like used to get me like horny as a young kid, like when I was going through puberty. If you go back and look at those now, and you see the amount of skin they're not showing that used to have me going crazy compared to now like and there's no disrespect to meg or anything but if i was 13 years old in 2003 and meg the stallion came out on trl i probably nut in my pants did you see her and cardi on stage performing in houston last night oh meg looks great meg is gorgeous her and cardi looked great do it. Brittany Spears would show her knee and I would get a 13 year old erection. Like now I cannot even fathom what these kids are going through. You know what's crazy? I think they're used to it. I think they've been so exposed to it. I think they're used to it. That's why now with women, I don't know if you guys have seen, but like the trad wife, like traditional, like corset, long flowy dresses are like coming back in style. Everything is becoming more conservative because we've whored ourselves out so badly that it's not even intriguing anymore. Like I miss sundress season when it was poking. The dress was down to their ankles. Normal women still wear sundresses every summer. No, of course. I'm just saying when it was like, that was the most sexualized, in a healthy way. Yeah. I could just not imagine at this point in my life how that would look as a kid going through people. I almost got in trouble for having the little Kim hardcore poster in my school locker. That was one of the most provocative We talked about it We went viral with a clip She got that moose knuckle one right there No she doesn't That thing is fat Not that one The one that was on the bus stops The trains Pull that one up Didn't it fold out Moose knuckle wear It's print That's cheetah print I'm talking about the length of the cheetah print There's nothing there. There's nothing crazy about this picture at all. Oh, no. Now, now a girl with 100 followers that you've run into would post something like this, which is fine. Yeah, it's just that Kim was, you know, back then, obviously, everybody's like, damn, she's she's pretty. And then seeing her like that, we had never saw Kim like that. Well, do you know, in 2002, when Mariah Carey used to cut the top of her jean shorts, what that used to do to me? All she would do was cut the belt buckles off. I don't even want to know what they used to do. you, Rory? I'm cool, actually. I'm cool on not knowing what it did to you, Rory, actually. Nowadays? Oh, my God. Y'all so fucking old. Y'all hear how old y'all sound, right? Nowadays, these young girls. Shit, that picture is what? Came out in, what, 96? 97, I think. Yeah. That's almost 30 years old. That picture's older than Ryan. That little Kim photo is older than Ryan. You know what, like, young puberty rory oh i owe james cameron a lot of credit because it was shit before puberty titanic was not like marketed as some like raunchy movie that kids couldn't go so it was like really marketed as a a love story was it rated r titanic it was not pitched like that if i remember correctly at that time i was really young but it was but then it was rated r three but everyone was a sex you got celine dion it's love like rated pg-13 word so i'm this is my memory my memory could be wrong i was a kid but it was something that you would bring your kids to see it's love it's it's come on i always i don't think they were bringing your kids to see titanic it's very obviously adult move an adult movie it was history yeah i saw my parents and And then I did not know three quarters. It was a lot of families in the theater when that came out. Yeah, but it was not advertised as a family movie. Like, sure, people might have bought their kids not knowing exactly. It was not advertised as a family movie. No, I'm just saying kind of was. I'm just saying it wasn't marketed the way Animal House was. Like, it was, I went to see it in theaters. Yeah. No, it's also not that raunchy of a movie. Well, I didn't know three, four, seven when I'm eight years old that I was going to see Titties. Yeah, that was crazy. And like in a very beautiful slow motion, like I got time to see the titties. It wasn't like a flash We owe James Cameron a lot For doing that for us That was the first time I seen titties on film You were 17 I was 7 Seeing titties in TV Didn't it go all the way down Didn't she show a little bush too No there was no bush You saw her back There was no bush It was bush She showed bush She showed bush Type in a Titanic news scene No I'm telling you That long shot She showed Bush Yeah I know I'm not tripping Like y'all are stressing me It was like a red bush Oh the curtains match the drapes There was no Bush I know there wasn't no Bush It was blocked by the photo Go to the director's cut Y'all telling me about My favorite movie I know there was no Bush It's like Juice There was two endings This is like the movie Juice This is the Mandela effect Yeah When I was seven years old I remember seeing Bush She showed Bush Niggas was corny Nice All you saw was the little bit top of that titty the rest was always covered by that drawing no they did a whole long shot of her whole naked body showed bush man that's it that is it you niggas are too horny that was it we saw bush this is that 2012 effect bursting bears fucking kazam all that shit this is that what's her name uh kate what kate winslow what's her name kate winslow it starts with a w though Eddie Winslow's daughter? Kate Winslet. I was close. Winslow was hilarious. Kate Winslet. That's Eddie Winslow's daughter. His adopted daughter. You didn't see her on... You can stop looking for the Bush that doesn't exist, Ryan. It's okay. Move on from the conversation. Kate Winslet is 50? That's another one to add to the list. Knock her right off. Knock her right off. damaris do we have voicemails you've got mail these are sponsored by boost we do we actually have a follow-up so okay yo this is michigan man from atlanta now i just wanted to i appreciate y'all taking my first answers i didn't even know i was gonna get through but i just wanted to add a little clarity to it. Nah, man, we weren't... We did a lot of fun things. We weren't just laying up every day dehydrated, drinking alcohol, and watching baddies. That was a misconception because I ain't have enough time to get the whole shit off. But the original point of me hitting y'all, because I fuck with y'all and I fuck with y'all opinions, even after she poured the piss in my face, I think we took a five-month no contact, and she FaceTimed me randomly one night like crying type shit. I think I ignored the first three calls. She called again. I answered. So with my big heart, hearing them tears through the phone, I pulled back up. My big heart. And no, we're not back together. But, you know, I have been back around. Helping her move into the new spot that she got. You know, just all kind of shit. Putting shit together. Real, just like same boyfriend duties. like, but she'll have me thinking that we're, you know, the effort that I'm putting in is getting us back to a place. But it's not, you know what I'm saying? It's like she wants the freedom to do what she want to do, but then she still want the convenience of me. So it's like why do we like accept breadcrumbs? There ain't no insecurity and ain't shit like that. It's just like, I love this person. By the way, Rory, my closet is clean. That shit can you that shit grit a condom off that can you get can you give the backstory because this is a follow-up voicemail of somebody i called in already can you give the backstory to the original voicemail to people who have not heard our rappers delight um episode with zip there was a caller who called in and said that he was in a toxic relationship well he had been in a toxic relationship with a girlfriend um they drank a lot they had a lot of fun together but at one point she found a pair of panties in his closet that were old. He didn't know whose they were. But she spazzed out through piss in his face. They broke up. And now he was asking, he's back talking to her. He was asking us what we thought about it. We told him that, well, I told him that if somebody throws piss in your face and you stay with them, y'all belong together because she crazy and you crazy for staying with her. And y'all told him to leave her alone, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Zip said he pissed on a girl's bed. So now we're here. He calls with the follow-up and he's telling y'all that they not together. She called him crying. He fell for the tears. And now, you know, he's been helping her move and things like that, but they aren't official. What's his name, Mitch? His name is, yes, I think that's from Atlanta. Don't be a sucker. Suckers born every 17 seconds in America. Don't be one. You can't let a woman throw piss in your face and then fall for the fake tears and then go help her move into a new spot. And you friend zone. Don't do that Well she doesn't trust him because she found panties in his house Mitch don't be that guy There's better women out there There's women that will never even think about throwing piss in your face Please don't Don't be a sucker There's enough of those in America Should it be a death sentence for a misdemeanor? You found panties with no explanation There was context, they were old You didn't even want to hear that And you threw piss at him And then he allows you back in his presence I see why you want to do that He'll let you do anything to him Yeah, don't be a sucker Don't be a sucker I know why she's fake crying She knows if I throw piss at someone And they answer the phone That's called gaslighting I can do It's not gaslighting When she cries? No, that's just straight Disrespect to I know I can do anything to this person That's past gaslighting Mitch, don't be that guy, Mitch That's a bonfire We care about you over here at Rory and Mall Don't be that guy Mitch, you love that girl, yo You love that girl, man Stay with her, yo Don't listen to these niggas They both single and lonely Stand tall, I ain't sure Your face might smell like piss One thing about Marl I ain't lonely Don't listen to baby Talk about it Cause you tell me every week And you lonely So is it Uchi Wally Or is it one mic I never said I was lonely I never said I was lonely I said I be alone Being alone and being lonely Is two different things Okay so what's the difference It's like when y'all say Single by choice It's a difference Okay So you be alone Well both of these niggas Are alone And you You know you laid up With something No he's not And if she She could just piss on the man I know she escorted her If she could just piss on the man And throw it in your face I know she is squirt. There's other squirters out there that won't throw piss in your face. That won't throw, won't. Well, consensually, we'll squirt in your face if you want them. Not only will not throw piss in your face, that's a thought won't even cross their mind to throw piss in your face. Like, she's a dog. She's a dog ass. I still want to know what cup she picked. She needs to be, she needs to be by herself. I know, it was a plastic cup, one of them Dollar Tree cups. She's a dog. That's what you call a dog. And it was clear, so to see that she was dehydrated, he tried to, I could tell by his guilty conscience when he was like, Nah, we don't be drinking like he was trying to say it was hydrated piss that was thrown. If you if if listen, man, listen, she's a terrible person. Right. But apparently you love her and you like the fact that she's a terrible person. So if you want our permission for you to stay with her, because that's what you're going to do regardless, then do it. Do I think you deserve better? No, not really, because if you're willing to stay with that, I don't think you deserve better. You don't think you deserve better. How am I think more highly of you than you do? You see how they think about you, Mitch? Once you make that decision, that old woman like, oh, he don't respect herself enough. He don't love himself enough He don't think he deserved better Don't fall into that category, King Stand tall Mitch, did you have toxic parents? Because there's no way you grew up in a healthy, happy household And a woman threw piss in your face And you think that that's exactly right And she still has The guy was mean to gain Not only is she still threw piss in your face She still has access to you She called your phone crying I'd have been like, where you at? I'd have sent my big cousin over there to whoop her ass And by the way By the way She don't want to be in a relationship with you Because she got something on her line right now Let me tell you something baby She got something on her line right now That would never let her throw piss in his face See He's not going to help her move He would throw piss in her face and not help her move Okay Fan fiction My thing is though Even if you want to entertain a woman that threw piss in your face She should be at your crib helping you move The fuck are you She should be at my crib being my pet. You got to do everything I say around this motherfucker. You put pee pads just around the whole room? You got to do everything I say in here, you dog. She home train. I actually had a Snapchat person I used to follow on Snapchat who used to have two women in cages eating out of dog food bowls. I used to watch them every day. Consensually? Yeah, that's what she ain't magic. Go get the biggest dog cage you can find at PetSmart. Put it in your living room and tell her to come over. You got a new bed for her and tell her to get in the cage that's what you do to her that's what you treat her so she want to throw piss in somebody's face treat her like the dog she wants to be the one in the cage yeah he no that's what i'm saying he should he might have yeah he might be a submissive man listen if that's maybe if that's his piss in his face and he's helping her move he stuck his tongue out if that's their thing i'm not going to judge them that way it sounded like it was out of anger in a disrespectful way to throw piss at you that's different than liking piss on you and someone throws piss on you. Yeah, it's a difference. I still got to know if he was cheating or not because he might be lying to us. Because if you were cheating... It still don't... That don't matter. That don't matter. I just say I understand. No, no, you don't. I wouldn't do it. I understand. No, you don't. You want to cut up his clothes, cool, whatever. Yeah, all of that. Freak guy fucking tweet that he's a piece of shit. This is that. Throwing piss in someone's face? Yeah, nah. Y'all don't get to play and this is Mission Design. We're now moving the conversation to a hypothetical because we're not saying that you did cheat. Y'all don't get to hurt people and put people's safety at risk and then decide how they get to react. The judge does. That's fine. Because that's exactly where you'll be at. That's fine. You throw piss in my face right in front of the judge with a broke nose. Okay. Well, fair. Yes, you can't control someone sneak attacking you by pissing in the bathroom with a cup and then throwing at you when you had no idea what's coming. Cool. I agree. But you also have the choice to not deal with that person ever again. No, for sure. Two things can be true. I agree with you. Good job. Lock her. Call the cops Mitch Put her in jail where she belong with the rest of them dogs I wonder what the statute of limitation is I'm throwing piss on somebody Is it a law? Yeah that's assault I agree it should be I just don't know It's definitely assault I didn't pass the bar Be locked up in prison and throw piss on Oceo And see what happens to you I'm sure that wouldn't go over I just didn't know if the Rikers law It's a serious criminal act generally classified as battery Or assault because this involves the throwing of bodily fluids as awfully treated as a biohazard-related offense. Statue of limitation is a time limit to charge someone with this offense depends on whether it is prosecuted as a misdemeanor or felony. In most jurisdictions, simple battery is a misdemeanor with a statute, a limitation of one to two years. But how you gonna prove, how can you prove that I threw piss on you? You can't prove that. I remember when I was young, the like, the really degenerate kids used to piss in condoms, tie them, and throw my cars. Oh my God. Yeah. Y'all was too bored over there. Were you from Queens? Yeah, y'all was too bored over there. A lot of traffic. Get off the belt. That's fucking disgusting. I remember shit on the side where the woods were. They would throw it at cop cars sometimes. Nah, so y'all tripping. Halloween maybe, but on a random Wednesday. I think it's a Halloween. If it's a holiday, it makes sense. Halloween, you know, we was doing whatever outside. But that was just, I mean, silly teenage shit. I just think it's funny to hold a piss So you could piss in a condom That was just always kind of funny to me And then tying a condom I know you're getting pissed on your hands And was they putting the condom on and peeing in it? I wasn't staring I wasn't watching them They would turn around and piss When you hang the water balloon from this fountain Yeah, because you got to put it on the faucet, right? Getting some head On the head of the faucet I never participated in it I did stand and watch and laugh but I never threw a piss condom at anyone I wasn't cool that's what cool kids were doing ironically so I was watching Euphoria last night and it was the scene where I don't know if y'all remember the chubby girl she fucked the dude from high school that used to be like lit remember why are the kids that from high school that were lit in high school I've never seen one continue the litness like they always the most popular kids always fall off. Like I've never seen one continue on. I mean, ever. Damn homie. In high school you was the man homie. What the fuck happened to you? No, that's not true. LeBron was the man in high school. Well, I mean, when you could have went to NBA at 13. Yeah, LeBron was the man in high school. Savannah knew that. Don't do that to his soulmate. That's love. You didn't have to say that. Everybody knew that. McDonald's knew that. Everybody knew that. Including Savannah. What's wrong me saying his wife. They went to high school together. No, I know. Which I think is a beautiful story. You do this thing, right? Where you just, you name the obvious like what? I'm saying in Savannah's case, he could have blown his knee out his senior year. Could have. She loved him. Yeah. He just so happened to become one of the greatest basketball players. I wish I had eyes like that when I was younger. I didn't have eyes like that. You weren't born in Akron, Ohio in 1984. But niggas up there in Q's, they were some niggas that you knew was going to Syracuse University. you knew you knew who was going to play yeah but none of them niggas is it to this day yeah that's true but a lot of like why people are cool in high school is for sometimes like immature reasons so if you're looking at it at that scope as a girl that's not going to last very long for junior and senior year yeah it'll be fun i also but that's not that doesn't have longevity i think it limits you i think when you are that popular that young it fucks up your like idea of like the real world. Yeah, it can. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that literally like fucks you up. I don't think it was going to happen regardless. I think that you might not have it. You don't know what you're chasing because you think you've hit it. You've hit that peak and you go out into the real world and you're nobody and you're not used to being nobody. I think if you're used to being nobody in high school, when you get to college, it's like another chance to reinvent yourself. But people leave high school, go into college and expect to still be that nigga. And it's just like, nah, homie. And teenage impulse is like should be studied because there's there were people far smarter than me, way more athletic than me that just were impulsive to bullshit that was happening in high school. And that hindered the rest of their future. Yeah. Like impulse should really be studied with teenage kids. I think the kids that have the least amount of impulse in high school are typically the people that have a longer career, if you will, because there was kids way smarter than me just never did shit because they were impulsive to bullshit. Right. Far smarter than me 100% And probably Had a different scope Of longevity But nah We're gonna fuck around For these four years Yeah We're gonna get lit Cause I think I've known One person that ever made it to a brick That never made it to a what? That made it to a brick I think I know one person From high school That actually made it to one brick Just one Just one I never knew nobody From high school That made it to a brick Not even one I'm sure you've known people that have made it Far past one brick Oh for sure I'm saying me personally I think I know one person that made it to a brick Everyone else is getting caught for eight balls Yeah that's not their lane Stay in your lane Alright well What's up Major Majors here Zip you here Can we pray We're going to get into some Patreon Pray for Patreon Our Father who art in heaven That will be thy name that will be done as earth and as in heaven. No. Are you leading the prayer? No. Who's leading the prayer? You. It's Ramadan. 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