Singer* DLS Drive; Volvo EX30 Review; Wesley Snipes; Q&A

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No, I can't say that it's the Porsche 964 reimagined by singer as part of the dynamics and lightweight and study Commission did I get that right? Please don't sue me also. I don't buy Wesley Snipes's gun. It's the smoking tire podcast. Let's go. I Don't believe you well. I'm a little sleepy, but we're technically alive. Did you get the new COVID? No hot shit. Do you know? Oh, I don't know. I wonder if Sarah did Because I just I saw a story yesterday. There's like new hot COVID coming in. There's always like new varieties I'm right, but like you guys you guys got like COVID Like the last time we went boating that yeah, we did you got we got there one one point one point. Oh beta That was a lot worse. Yeah, it was like a your COVID was like a Cybertruck foundation series. It was no good But alright, I'm glad you I'm glad you just sleepy and not full of COVID nice good for a while. It's different. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that That's fine. I hope it was because you were working for me. No Okay, a lot to talk about on this show. I drove a singer DLS. That's worth talking about but but but first but first I Almost recklessly spent money this morning. Mm-hmm. I attempted to recklessly spend money this morning But it didn't go well, but my sensibilities kicked in clapman. Okay, I had I'm on a text thread with some of my friends from back east and I was like to them this morning. I was like, alright guys, this is gonna sound a Leetist and douchey But you're my friend so I can say this to you What is an appropriate amount of money to spend on Wesley Snipes's gun from demolition man To hang in my bathroom like what where do you draw the line of? this is too silly and you should not spend the money and This is you know a funny thing. That's awesome and like worth having do you have a photo of the gun? It's it's his it's his future gun Keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep that The magnetic Magneticist it's the it's the only gun in the movie that's really like crucial to the plot It's like the future gun that yeah All the other ones are just normal fire. Yeah, so on top of this on top of it being a crucial prop to the plot of the movie It's also based on an a heckler and cock Prototype of a gun that was never made well, so it's actually got some sort of double history And I don't you know like you know me like I don't like collect guns like if this wasn't the devil I didn't you're so so anyway What what do you think? You know you know me and you know you know what what is what is an appropriate amount of money to spend on something? Yeah Prototype do I Why don't I know how much you spent on the printer thing can I have that for context? I didn't buy the printer thing? Oh, I didn't win. Oh wait. No, what do you have you mean the dead the the The thing that printed out the fines. No, I I was gonna bid up to like four or five thousand dollars for that I thought that I thought that was silly and it went and it was but it went for 16 Yeah, yeah, well I asked my friends back east Which and these are not friends. No, no these this isn't I do have some rich friends back east But those friends are not on this text message But my friends on this text message are regular fucking working stiffs and they do all right But they're like regular people one of them said 200 grand Like I was like, what are you fucking nuts? I was like I was thinking five and he was like, oh spend away Yeah, he was like I had to buy something dumber than that to put in my living room that you know, no, you know, so whatever I mean, what you become a homeowner you start buying weird shit for your house and everything is really expensive, but like Okay, I five for you know And and because of the the printer for context that helps me I think this is it has more value than the printer but Well the printer the the root the printer I thought it was $800. Yeah, no, no, I thought that's what kind of what I thought I don't get this like two grand, you know But like and I was gonna turn it then turn it into the toilet paper dispenser, which I thought is hilarious Yeah, that's a good idea. No, definitely that didn't happen. So all right, so five. Yeah, so I told Hannah I would be in up to four Right, okay the pre-auction estimate was like a 1500 to 2500, but you know, I'm sure this went for like 200 because it's big. Yeah, it's a gun and there's people out there You know, yeah, I have a lot more disposable income It's 200 and you can and you can stand it upright and light it and put it in your fourth foyer Yeah, shit, right six figures. No, no, no But after telling Hannah that my highest bid was gonna be four my actual highest bid was nine And then it's sold for 15 plus buyers premium So it was really like 17 five out the door how people people were as excited I'm actually maybe encouraged by society They were as excited about this as they were about the printer. They sold for the same money. Yeah, that's bananas to me There was some other great stuff in this auction too as a big prop master was retiring and like selling off his collection There was some wild shit in there, dude The fucking Wilson volleyball from cast away went for like a hundred eighty thousand dollars Yeah, how many I'm sure they had more than 12 there was 12 balls. There were 12 Lord, yeah, people need to pay hard. No, but there's like yeah, of course, of course, of course, but like there's you know like Look if you're gonna go buy Have you ever tried to buy it like art art? I mean probably not but like why once yeah And and you look at something and you go this is nice How much is this and they go it's thirty five thousand dollars and you go? I'm sorry. What the fuck? This is by somebody that I haven't heard of and you go well I haven't you haven't heard of them yet, right? And you go eat a fucking dick for it if it and look this is funny money for the vast majority of people I don't have thirty five thousand dollar art on my walls But I've been in those stores before where I go this looks nice How much is this and they go it's twenty seven thousand dollars and you go fuck right off? I expect you to say five hundred bucks. Yeah, and like I'm not trying to insult artists I know it takes materials and time and creativity like okay, and if you can get it. Oh god fucking was but for my Whatever equivalent dollar Yo, that's Wesley Snipes is gone from demolition man. That's that's a better more fun thing to have my house I agree with that completely There's also an auction coming up man. It's a little cheaper something more affordable for you perhaps the Stallone Pre-pro photo. It's a hundred dollars. I'll tell you what you want a payment plan You know what I wish I bought instead that was like ten lots before mine in the auction the One of the five back to the future to your fired faxes mm-hmm went for like thirty two hundred bucks and I mean still you're talking about an eight and a half by eleven piece of paper that appeared in a movie but Iconic scene sure iconic film it fits in a small frame on your wall You know and that's a that's a pretty cool conversation piece for the vast majority of people between the ages of 35 and 50 I feel like we could find where these actors all again You could buy you get a replica on Etsy for 20 bucks, but that's not that's not no, but you need the same thing I don't actually want the print. Oh, yeah Yeah Not I if you could get it like that like hanging out of that printer that could be kind of fun You know, yeah, but machine back. Yeah, but other than that I mean you kind of what you got the real there Be the real thing is a story like so depends on what yeah, of course I like I like I like real things. I wouldn't I wouldn't want to get true. You don't like replica cars I don't like replicas of of Stuff and I know I have that relic fake-age McCready. We talked about that my guitar like Okay, I'm not a perfect fucking consistent person, but like in general if you can have The real thing I wouldn't fill real McCready guitar would This is right. It's no price. That's that's not a gap. Yeah, but in general. I like the real stuff Okay, yeah, but but anyway, man if you were not even like insanely rich but kind of rich and Just wanted to fill your house with some awesome stuff that auction was fucking chock full of shit. Wow fucking Quints like harpoon gun from jaws like pretty like there was a hub. There was a hoverboard They're actually two hoverboards one was screen used and one was a promotional used There was like a bunch of the hoverboards were like, you know, how do you know? They really were like a thousand dollars That's a good ROI as a prop master like you've got this thing you made it for whatever you got paid to make it And then you sit on it for 40 years and then sell it for a hundred times what it cost to make movies good Yeah, and they were saying apparently, you know some movies They were making them like fast and they had to like Destroy a lot of the props to like just clear out the storage room for the next movie that was coming in and so they just like Burned half of it. So like there was a few movies and I forget the exact list but like where Just stuff from them is incredibly rare because they like just literally burned all of the props when they were done shooting Yeah, damn dude. It was neat. I want to see so Well, okay under my no But so and also You know last show we talked about this thing with the was it last show we talked about the thread from Renlist Was that last show? Was that two shows ago? All right? Well our friend Rob Dietz Wab who was sort of dragged into this as part of a dealer he responded to the thread he said he said it's me to read and It really made me think that we may be jumped the gun by Talking about it on the show and spreading that it existed because Although he didn't he Rob Dietz who was Wab Wasn't able to literally debunk every single point in it he was able to debunk enough of it that it made me question the rest of it and Question the rest of it like to the point of like being like I feel a little guilty that we talked about that without Maybe following up on some sources ourself first like I feel like I feel like we lent a lot of a lot of like potentially undue credence to the thing to the idea that what was in it was fact and Some a sum of it could be fact but like a whole bunch of it is not and in fact what in a sort of hilarious example One of the accounts that's accused of being a car dealer that's buying these cars is Literally the guy who bought my NSX who I know personally is an individual like who was friends with not just Wab Rob Dietz also because he it was funny because he bought my NSX and he bought a car from from Rob And we put them on the same truck together We coordinated shipping to this guy and that guy's also friends with Rob Freddy because Rob Freddy sent me a text From this dude with like a photo like hey man. Look I bought Matt's NSX. So like it's like it's a guy It's not a dealer. It's like a fucking dude. So like and you know I can personally prove that one of these people Actually is the user that bought my car and isn't a dealer like so He posted a very lengthy and detailed response to this thread and And and I'm not saying that the nothing in it is true and I'm not saying I'm certainly not saying that everything in it is true But I think maybe before we talked about it We should have probably followed up a little bit better. I think that's kind of my bad Yeah, I think we talked in the car like if we were writing an article you have a longer more time between Story breaks and you publish story. Yeah, you you would be almost required like by the magazine to go check a bunch of sources With this stuff, it's like the story pops up four hours before we record Yeah, and we and a lot of other people who are not news networks And this is the benefit of news networks as they have these like journalistic requirements is we're like Oh, we're talking about this thing and like we'll see how it develops Right, there's a lot of content in like let's report on it as it develops, but it does leave the story a bit one-sided until Yeah, Bob reaches out. Yeah, so it it seems like Not a hundred percent debunked but like pretty substantially debunked Debunked enough to know that I we probably shouldn't be treating it as fact or certainly not as like Really hard evidence of a direct thing though He would have to come back with more evidence because like he referenced he made an app in his right post Basically basically what what Rob says just to summarize some of the things like the AI or the app or whatever they did It got a lot of the orders of ownership wrong It got a lot of the end users wrong Hmm, and if you just look at the car faxes of those specific vins You can see that a lot of those vins do end up at end users and are not like still in these dealer inventory Like you're implying and like if you Some of the things got the order of ownership wrong and so like there was an owner here And then it went to a dealer and then to another owner like it it it's it was just like Not it's see and and and and look again. I Didn't personally go through every car facts that Rob put in in his response He put a very thorough response. You can go read it or not But it it it casts enough doubt You know in a way that the two the two ones that I did look into we put links to the fucking things the two I looked into did back up his version of the events. So You know, I would say that it's Substantially debunked if not totally Wow, okay. Yeah So anyway, that's like I felt like it was important to I think it's very probably With that I we can't go back and change a previous episode so much Although we could put a little thing in the podcast and in the notes I suppose are the comments on YouTube, but but at least we can as we find out some updated information, you know Should we talk about the Volvo ex 30 before we before we go to the singer DLS. 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They cancel that yeah this here, and then they cancel this yes so Zack you've been driving it for two days. I drove it for three days before that. Do you have some thoughts? I have notes? Yeah There they are Let's see overall I like it you do like I do like it there are imperfections absolutely and we will get to those but Well, I liked it more when I thought it cost the 36 thousand dollars the single motor was opposed to cost this You know dual motor only this has a couple of nice things on it heated steering wheel heated seats It's like 49. Yeah, which is the average price of an EV in America, but like that's a lot of money Yeah, it's it's the same or maybe more than Machi I think it's more than some more than some Machis for sure more than the dual motor model 3 But it's cheaper than the model 3 Performance sure that has like those like 55 and has adaptive shocks and all the way and way more horsepower But this thing's got for under horsepower. I think it's quick It's it's very quick Not only is it very quick the norm to me the normal, you know, it's got like eco mode normal mode and sport mode I think the throttle is a little too sensitive in normal mode I like I prefer to drive it in eco mode or range mode all the time. I actually like the Little bit dumber throttle that the normal mode the throttle is fucking it sharp. It's very quick Yeah, yeah, and when paired with a one-pedal drive I think it's can be a little jumpy when you hit a bump it can make does a little that jaguar jerk the jack That's funny that is a jack or jerk. There's a crazy people reference right to And jobs really know for women you hardly know but but it What really drives me nuts about this car is that it abs it reverts to standard every reverts to its own mode every time Like full a-dash back on every time you restart the car Lane keep assist all that back on every time you start the car and even if I leave the car in range mode It restarts in standard mode It doesn't stay in range mode the Mach E if I put it in range mode would stay there until I took it out of range Did that only happen does that happen with Mach E press cars or only when you owned it and you'd like use your app No, I never I was just years. I used fobs as a key. I never once used my phone then point against for sure Dude, there's this fucking full-on binary that's about to start happening with these cars where it's Does the car stay? With the a-dash off and and sort of how I left it or does it fucking not? Mm-hmm, and man and every car is failing even if it was gonna always revert to a-dash because they like it's safer Blah blah blah. Why wouldn't it stay in the range mode you want? Yeah, that's really weird change. That's really strange Things I like like it's also smaller than the the Mach E. It's a size of a bolt Yeah, I like the compact footprint actually I found it easy to drive blah blah blah blah blah I thought I thought it steers pretty good. I got used to the squeal the square wheel I wonder if with the square wheel stuff if they just looked at how most drivers operate cars and they go All right, you're mostly going straight you take one a turn That's ten seconds of your life Then you're going straight again because the wheel feels like it's designed to be comfortable going straight like people at rest They're hand on the top the bottom whatever yeah But then when when I go I want to run around about the steering ratio is not quick enough right where I had to get pretty Crossed up. I want to test it like can I just turn this 90 degrees like a Ferrari? No I don't really crossed up. Yeah, you have to do a little hand over hand on these 90 degree angles not just that There's no gauge cluster in front of the steering my least favorite thing which I can live with it's not my favorite But I can live with it, but this is one of a very small places of places where I have to give Tesla credit Tesla's Interiors are Spartan so they can be cheap Fucking no question about that, but at least they have a very low cowl And you can put the steering wheel where the fuck ever because there's no gauges there Like I like a low steering wheel and the fact that there's no gauges to block and I can actually have the steering wheel low Where I like it it's actually incredibly comfortable to drive this thing the steering wheel is up here. Yeah, I see I sit In a way where I have to sit pretty low with the seat almost all the way down If not down and my head is a fist from the roof in this Volvo so one one fist so it's not like I'm sitting Too low and need to sit higher right and where I sit and my head is up here by the roof The steering wheel is up here with my hands have to be way too high Even at its lowest position and if you put the steering wheel up to its highest position It's like blocking my view. It's a strange truck thing so weird I also noticed this has this does something that the old Tacomas did where when I get in the right position for my legs I am sitting too far away from the wheel doesn't telescope enough right if I move closer my knee touches the dash Which I don't like and then this thing has I think it has either a very large B pillar Or because of the way the seating positions laid out and the dash to axle ratio I found myself not seeing cars in the blind spot like it has a larger blind spot because I'm so close to the B pillar Maybe that's why it has so right next to my head. I think but the the blind spot monitoring light on the mirror is a little bit Dim yeah, which that was brighter and most cars I've driven like it pops out and I drove it today at noon And I was like oh that light is flashing didn't like that The one pedal driving was kind of weird you operate EVs far off that more often than I do so one pedal I Had it in high region essentially high high whatever one pedal aggressive That's a lot It was a lot But I was like trying to time the lift off to come to a stop at a length and I was coming up short a lot by a couple Car lengths I was getting used to it But I noticed that if I tap the gas very lightly like oh, I need to move forward eight more feet It would release the brake and most entirely and then just start coasting Oh, and it wouldn't it didn't know that I was just trying to like move up a little like cars have so then I would actually have to Get on to the brake. Oh, so the region one pedal drive sort of stopped at creep speeds It like cancels itself at creep speed. So there's a toggle on the car to turn creep on or off Did you toggle it off? I didn't fuck with that But I know that when I've driven Machi and I've driven your taekon like it either timing the one pedals easier Or when it knows I'm decelerating like it feels like you're coming to a stop The car seems to know it and if you give it a tiny like 1% of gas to just get It'll just extend the mock it extends that the mock that one braking I'll pedal breaking so that was that just need a little bit of calibration Yeah, I wonder if you toggle off that the creep that was a different. Yeah different thing, but um I Thought dynamically it was alright sure I thought the rides pretty the ride was decent This is the suspension and the brakes were decent. I thought the handling was decent It drove predictably. I like the small turning circle But the the driving position with that steering wheel is really weird the 8-ass not turning off was really weird And I thought the I don't like this Android based tablet thing they use very much I found it pretty easy to use like it nested carplay in the Android Pretty well. I did do that. Yeah, it did do that. I agree, but I think the I Was surprised at I don't know. Maybe it was just really hot when we got in the car and I was like panicking I didn't I found the climate control less intuitive than I wanted it to be yeah, the when it's on auto It's just blasting and then when you switch you have to go and that's another thing with the whole like the tablet thing You have to go there are two different climate menus the climate menu always sits at the bottom Yeah, and I went okay. I want to turn the fan down. So I brought that menu up. There's no option for that Right that out that menu only has like sink that the sides Temperature yeah, that's it see seats and steering wheel You have to like go into the Android menu Climate and that's where you can decide to put it into manual mode or eco mode So that was where I was trying to figure it out the car had been sitting outside my house on the really hot day There was like a thousand degrees in there. I'm trying to drive somewhere and I'm like hitting that thing then where that where I think the climate thing is and it's like not bringing up the like Max AC or and I set the temperature down to like 60 or whatever the lowest is and it's just going oh Really just just I'm like what the fuck and it was it took me a long time to figure out Oh, there's a second climate menu in here that I have to to mess with so that once you learn that like Okay, but like that's a good list like a little clunky It was a little clunky I wish you could just like pull up the way you can in a lucid and it would bring up the whole climate menu It also has like the eight ass yawn patrol Where so I I got in the car today I'd been in the car for three minutes and I yawned and it goes bling and says do you need to take a break? Yeah, it's like the car's been operating for three minutes. Yeah all day Oh, hey, it's just because it's detecting where your eyes are and what your mouth is doing It's shockingly fast for a little thing You know 60s three and a half seconds. Yeah, I we're driving the M2 CS at the same time And I swear to God up to about 80 the Volvo beats the BMW Especially when you consider like traction and things like that like there's almost no way Zero to 80 that BMW beats this little Volvo like it's not fucking happening but We're talking about the air conditioning windows. Oh, yeah It's just There's some things about it. They're weird that it kind of bug me The position of the steering wheel to me. Maybe it fits someone else's body, but it doesn't fit mine I was kind of bummed like the center console, you know, you can hide the cup holders and they pop out All right fine when you hide them It's just this giant open space like it's like the Cybertruck. Yeah reach all the way to the floor. Yeah, and then it has this Shelf angled shelf that can hold your phone. I guess well Charger, but it's like I've had size dude, you know in general I've now found the the M2 CS which I think we'll talk about really next show this car A couple other cars I've driven recently have really devoted an awful lot of real estate space to Wireless phone chargers that don't charge my fucking phone very well. They don't work They're just they make my phone really hot and like Best case scenario if I'm like using Google Maps and playing a podcast best case scenario level Yeah, it keeps it level. Yeah. Yeah, you're gambling and going to work and you're just breaking every day Yeah Whereas what I'm plugging in my phone to a USB-C It's actively putting juice into the phone totally keeps it well We'll get it from 20 to yeah in a reasonable amount of time and this is an ongoing problem We've had wireless charging out now for I don't know six years Yeah, and that was a problem in the beginning is if your phone moved it all it would it would disengage it that still happens Very few companies went with some sort of holder that kept it in place and then even so Other than what we say Porsche no one has a cooler for the phone cool So it can only charge at a certain rate, which is pretty low It feels like a gimmick that they sell people and the people that buy the cars for the first time with wireless charging have never Experienced the hell of it and then they go oh cool, and then they try it, but they can't return the lease and they go Ah fuck it stinks terrible. Yeah, it stinks in fairness to Volvo. There is a thing that holds the phone in place So if it's once it's charging, it's not like flopping around In the BMW M2 It was flopping around it's just it's it sits there and you hit a bump and all of a sudden you're not charging anymore like yeah It's mad annoying dude. So most of the things about the BMW M2 that I did not like our our manufacturer-wide, you know software type Issues, you know what I mean like that not not necessarily dynamic issues although next week when we talk about that car We'll talk about a few of those there. There's cars not perfect dynamically. There are some notes But the Volvo Yeah, I thought it's pretty fun It's nice to have a model 3 option that I think is pretty good. It's just got canceled because of EV incentives So yeah, I mean you may be able to get one on the cheap maybe and if that's the case like you know have at it Because the range is good the power is great It's if it fits your body then I like that It's a luxurious feeling car in a small free damn adjustable. Yeah, sorry I cut you off I didn't learn the lumbar adjustments are hidden. Yeah, you got to tap the button. Yeah, I didn't it took me two days I was like, why is there no lumbar? I think I only know that because of the Volvo V90 I drove over Thanksgiving same thing like that square holds all the keys So if you tap it, you know, it's a multi. It's what is it like a 12 function 12 functions hidden within one button Yeah, so you got to know how to operate that device. It took me a minute to be like why why is my lumbar like not right on this? and that's why But but thank you to Volvo for letting us letting us have a go Maybe next time don't kill the model before our test and we will do more covering it I mean, I think they didn't want to but yeah, right forces larger than them, right now the Dynamics and light weighting study portion 964 reimagined by singer I think I've pronounced that Portion 964 reimagined by singer as part of the dynamics and light weighting study Maybe I feel like you're lawsuit proof now. I think I'm pretty lawsuit proof Most people would just know the letters DLS and know what I'm talking about Finally got to have a go. It was a short go. It's not a real Well, it wasn't not it was you know, I'm pretty in tune with cars I don't I don't need a super long go to know what amazing is So Maz from singer I saw him at Malibu I was with Christian hand in the Manx and Maz was like, oh, I really want to have a go in the Manx And I was like you may have a go and he tosses me the key and I was like, oh nice light key He's like, yeah, you think that's like where do you feel the car? And I was like, oh, okay so Christian fucking get in let's go and Man I understand I I understand I would I would I Would really think about Compromising my morals for one of these fucking things for sure You know that that meme it's like money can't buy happiness, but it can buy a jet ski You don't see unhappy people in a jet ski. It's that it's that exact thing and it's like Yeah, so you just build up a business get like 10,000 employees and then just like fire half of them pocket the money And then you have one of these like, okay, cool can do that Well, so the last singer we drove was the turbo right right so let's turbo is me comparison So the turbo is the ultimate daily, right if you're super fucking rich that turbo Isn't a weekend car from you you drive that all the time, right? Like that's That's like the best thing about all this but in a package with like fabulously light clutch and could just could just every you know, it's the perfect blend of old car and new car flavor Yeah, it's like it's like if you had the the lightness of inputs of a brand-new Cayman but in this old looking car that has like 500 horsepower and rips like that's kind of what that is, you know, but modern turbo throttle response. Yeah, so good This is like the weekend version of that where like, you know With this motor this four cam motor that's like co-develop with Williams when you like blip Yes, it revs to nine, but like when you just do the blip it's like that You know what I mean like the like some motor is when you rev them It's not how they open. It's how they close. You know, I mean sure, you know, I'm like well There's a flywheel aspect to that. There's yeah, but they the throttle bodies Lower than the accelerate right right most most motors even high performance ones if you go They'll come down a little slower. This Comes down at even faster than it goes up. It's a free. It's like a freewheeling engine. Oh, so It's you know, if you've ever heard like a fucking leader bike like an s1000 or whatever like Those that those really fast like like fast fast revs like think f1 car or think think that Yes, it's like that and so You either have to shift really quick Or you have to like feather the throttle a little bit in between gears because the engine has feels it has like no Weight of its own but the inputs, you know, just like that turbo or like perfect shifter feel just perfect Across the board every inputs perfect the ride quality is like exceptional because it's like so light It doesn't need to run a ton of spring. It has sheer own brakes It weighs like just over half of what a sheer own ways and has sheer own breaks Is that just because the brakes that are on the sheer own are they AP racing? Are they just so good? Oh, they're giant carb. They're the biggest carbon ceramics that you could fit in this car I think there is a bigger one, but you need to run like 22 inch wheel. I'm just wondering and obviously the engineers at Singer know what they're doing like Why does it have the brakes of a 4,000 pound car? I think because they're the best that you can buy never have too much break I mean and it has it has incredibly advanced Calibration, I mean the whole thing is like, you know, it's a tube like approved car. Is it manual steering or? It's not it's not manual. I don't Couldn't tell you what type of pump it is, but it is not a manual steering rack. The effort is too easy My guess is it would be a motorsport based one like they were using in the 993 race cars Something similar to that Which is also what Gunther uses on the turbos Excuse me, but um Just you just you just every input and like every Vibration that you feel is a good one and every bad vibration that you don't want to feel isn't there You know like and it's you can see all this raw carbon But it doesn't feel like those Hypercars that feel hollow because they're made of raw carbon where you hear all the gravel and stuff like it's somehow both expertly insulated and Incredibly light and like Dude, I wound out third gear to nine. I don't know how fucking fast I was going But it was really fast and then just like stood on the brake pedal and it stopped like a like a cone exactly I just yeah, just like yeah, this is all right and Everything about it is exactly what somebody That has been that knows what they're doing and was given an unlimited budget would do like it's like an interesting It's the most perfect car I've driven the turbo experience which this is probably like that If there's a a clarity to the sounds and experiences, that's like a perfect stereo You know like you don't hear any little buzzes You need you know if Christians ear was in front of the greatest stereo ever Like that's what driving these is like both in terms of the sound but also the sensations Yeah, we know what you want to feel and what you don't want to feel in here and as it It checks the correct box on every one of those items, which is really really wild really wild Many you expect it. This is like you'd hope it was a million dollar car Like if it's not all of that you'd go hmm, you know, but it like It has that same steering wheel that we love that perfect steering wheel from the turbo It's I think it's a little more carbon-y in this one, but it's effectively the same shape It has the same the same shifter from the turbo because they've used the they did this first And then they go we're using the DLS gearbox in the turbo now so like this it's that and it has What's really nice is be you know usually if like like 9-eleven ST or the or even the GT3 touring if you have that very light clutch The car becomes like stallable this Had the very light clutch with the very revvy engine, but still not Stallable like low-speed maneuverability It wasn't like Bucky and jerky you could kind of like ride the clutch a little bit and just smoothly moving and out of a parking space Really nice. I wonder what they did to make that so perfect like they spent so much fucking time. Yeah, dude They spent so much time on all those Calvi calibrations and stuff There's like a I think it's a five-stage traction control system that knob right behind the shifter There's all these different, you know, there's different engine maps and different like ABS maps They really they they did a lot of like Some stuff that was like really OEM grade and some stuff that's really motorsport grade Marino, you know did a ton of work test driving in and this was a then and Maz was very like He was like this one's like this was our prototype. It's like not like finished right like it's not great I'm like dude stop telling people that because like you obviously know what to look for but like Whatever you think I'm seeing yeah motherfucker like I'm not seeing if this is the crappy one if the yeah You'll take it off their hands At a heavily discounted rate. Yeah, so it do do this thing was fast and and just All the fizz so so choice So fucking choice. I yeah, you want to you want to sell missiles to the wrong people to get one of these You know you want to be like the fucking Paul brothers go to Puerto Rico not pay taxes talk mad shit If there's a singer at the other end like I kind of get it at least You know there are cars that cost around this much money that are less perfect. I think cars like this And I think you know coming second is is similar to a degree like They set the bar so that the other people that are trying to come up and sell in their market should do their best to meet it Yeah, because this is what's available well and what I really like about this is when you Whether you're driving it whether you're riding in it like with a hypercar It's what is the top speed what is the this what is the that what are the numbers is it faster? you Who the fuck cares what the zero to sixty of this is? What's the top speed fuck if I know I don't know something they don't yeah, that's true They don't like what's the difference? Yeah, it's a good point difference it revs to nine And it makes you feel like you are a god When you're driving it that's what I'm talking about. Mm-hmm. I don't give a fuck what the zero to sixty time is Probably not even that good. I wonder you know we get asked this question a lot. Will hypercars supercars start to slow down in the interest of driving dynamics and stuff like that and It would take more than one company But if if if all of the top-end companies Started focusing on Engagement and making the engines at 600 horsepower not 1200 1400 whatever like I think that does trickle down from the top because When we were young it was all about getting faster more power faster more power well now we're there and we realize it's not everything So maybe this will come because when we were young faster and more power You're still shifting you're still there's not a lot of computers. So We didn't know at the time that Faster and more power would lead to technologies that took away from some of the fizz I think that's partly true. I think it was also harder to make power especially like in the 80s and 90s Oh, yeah, and now it's so easy once it wants the things are easy to get people don't care about it as much right right So yeah They this that seems sick the NA cars seem like the turbo ones are really fun But I just like the response of NA the sound of it all of that. Yeah, I mean this is it's got cylinder heads It fucking made by a formula one. I mean that's the problem You know the engine is like it's that worth more than my entire net worth almost. Yeah, the engine's like 500 grand in these fucking It's it's it's truly truly an exceptional piece of machinery and it's a shame that like All of them aren't driven this one's got 6,800 miles on it It's a shame that they're not all all driven like that But I you know, it's it's it's it's incredibly profitable to not drive one But I would hope that if you had enough money to buy one that you would go Like now that I've driven it like I go. Okay. Look, you know, you you gotta you gotta be fucking Seriously loaded to have because to earn three million dollars Legitimately you need to have to spend three million legitimately in this car. You need to have earned seven, right? Like that's you need, you know Legally if you're if you're paying and some some rich people out there going lol. No, I don't but that not was standing like That's a fucking ton of money to put into a car, but like man You know, I wonder if people game over if you can afford this So a lot of people that buy these cars and they have 10 to 20 other cars And they've got all the cool hypercar stuff It would be it would be nice if these racked up more miles than the other stuff because this is focused on driver enjoyment Yeah, I meant and you know would kind of pull them away from the big power I know I mean there's there are a few cars that I've driven most of which are Porsches mainly because they're the last really manual transmission cars around, you know, but it's like it's the ST where you go and stuff like this stuff like that where you just go man I could just stop right here and I Maybe that's not true. Maybe you get there and it does happen. I can't I can't I can't imagine Not being satisfied with something like that over a long period of time in terms of driving it And like over a long how are fucking? How are miles not worth the money in something like that that I don't get I think they're totally worth I mean these are probably just going up in value. I'm sure because the waiting list There's so few of these yeah Vin and Ahtra had a funny thing He put out the other day like he wants to start shaming People rich people who don't drive their cars and just be like oh man what could you not afford to put more miles on it? It's a great trick. That's pretty yeah, it's pretty good I think I'm gonna afford to put more miles on someone's like because some people are proud of their low mileage Whatever you'd be like, oh was it is it too expensive to drive this amazing, you know 458 or whatever. Yeah, yeah I Wonder how you could spin that into a good t-shirt There's probably a way to succinctly make that into a good t-shirt, but I like the idea as a concept If you if it was like the Daniel Mack, but the opposite who's Dean the Mac? The what do you do for a living guy? Oh, right? Right if it was the opposite of that like tell me about your car How many miles are on it? Could you not afford to put more that's actually a pretty funny gag? I like you just start with what do you do for a living? They're like, oh, I'd like to not make you enough money to drive this very often You know Someone has 20 50 cars like you know, they can't drive they can't put that many miles on something But there's people out there that have you know 15 cars. Yeah, they just let them sit I mean look if you yeah, there's people that pride themselves on that. Yeah, there was that guy stupid There was that guy that you know that had a lot of vipers like a lot like like 20 vipers and You know all but you know to word delivery miles and like yeah, he's he sold a few of them at a profit but like Was it it's like it's a lot of space and yeah tied up resources underperform the index. Yeah Yeah, like you could if you know you could have all you could have doubled your money and you know seven years or whatever Just on some basic ass shit. Mm-hmm. Anyway But this like this was this to me is a real example of like Fuck sometimes these really really expensive things are like super impressive and you got you want to fucking be like There's no way that's worth it and you go look it after a certain point. It does get incremental You know what I mean to go from and again I realize the numbers are insane but to go from one million in the turbo that we drove To three million in this is it three times better? No, absolutely not. It's it's it's maybe 20% 25% right. It's like it's like it's just fucking it's just cranked up But like when you get to that high level Then getting to the even higher level within that is like very very difficult Like the amount like that this car to me is the most quote everything is important car that I've driven from that company Wow, that's like their sort of motto, but like This is the one this is the first one we're even after like ten minutes I was like nothing about this could be better. This is just this is exactly the thing So like I you know I get it I guess They they probably perfection is expensive. It's fucking really expensive. Yeah, it's so expensive to make something the the best I should say mechanical things that are perfect tend to be expensive. Yeah a Lot of things that are natural things that are perfect or expensive an ocean view a fucking diamond I mean, you know you name it natural things can be expensive. It's true. You can also just go You know it depends on your this is gonna get too subjective But the the perfect expensive unique car is going to be expensive Unfortunately, and this is just all the things turned up to 11 and the things you don't want turned down to zero And all that shit that you didn't even know You didn't want to be better you know like Like the like the crank the crank windows like it's this thing has crank windows But the crank window mechanism is this beautifully like fucking made thing that it's More satisfying to roll the window down Using this thing than it would be if it had I'm sorry I don't have a better pender picture of the crank window But it's it's somehow better to do it that way that it is to do it the other way because you get to use this beautifully made You know machine this is the turbo probably has power windows. I think but but it's just that it's that kind of shit Let's see. Is there a DLS interior? Oh, that's the DLS you're having. Oh, is this the one? Yeah, that's it Mads brought it. So that's Chris Harris driving at the ice race. Oh shit. Yeah, it was that the same car They drove that they had the turbo but they also had Mads's car. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway it it's Not going to be surprising to many people to hear that this car is essentially the second coming of Jesus Christ, but Sometimes shit is dudes like that's That an engine that like is in a car But feels more like a motorcycle engine is like a pretty wild thing Yeah, you know, especially when like it's it's powerful enough to actually make because with the four cam head It can have a torque cam profile in the lower half of the it's like V-tech, you know what I mean? So so like there's you drive around in this thing. That's like a racing engine, but but below 5000 it does have some power you can drive around. It's not like dead So you can you can drive around and like You know kind of rip the thing up to about four or five thousand rpm Like you would do when you're just sort of driving normally and it's not like a dog Or it doesn't like spotter or anything like that and then you get into it and the thing comes on cam And it's holy fucking shit from five to nine. You better hang on to your balls, man. That thing is you're you're going By the time it goes past eight You have to be ready on the brakes like you're all you you're going faster than even you think you are is Upshifting is timing the upshift hard because of how quickly the revs drop if you if you're driving real fast and Shifting it not like not like Fox body power shifting, but like shifting it fast on the way up You can match the revs appropriately But with a with a with a proper lift if you're just Just cruising around you do not you don't take your accelerator foot all the way off You have to like catch the revs a little bit to shift slower Otherwise it won't match quite right, but that's the same as the ST ST was exactly the same as that yeah, or if you did a manual a manual swapped Ferrari 430 It would be just like that too or or what do you call it? 599 but like Yeah, that's a treat 10 minutes was not enough, but it was also enough to go. That's that's it. That's the shit How many how many t-shirts would we have to sell? We'd have to like inherit, you know the money we'd have to have different parents even me You know I already I already won that lottery, but I'd have to win a bigger one somehow and Or we'd have to like oppress a people we'd have to like do crimes We'd have to run a scam of some kind Speaking of scams. No No, absolutely not our Porsche giveaway will probably not get us a deal it won't yeah, no But it's ready got to drive it. I mean what a magical thing because it took what 20 years of this job to get to drive The singer turbo I think yeah not and obviously didn't exist But like it took that long to get a press car and so now mm-hmm jumping in and they've got more models come out So this is good. You're in the door. Yeah, we know their crossover comes out They have a they have an electric crossover coming out next. No, no, they've got like the no for China They've got the you haven't seen it They have singer the singer XR for be yang Wang is it made by Volvo which is really made by it's outsourced to glee no Yeah They also make a hell of a watch. Well, no, they've got a cabrio coming out the convertibles really interesting Did you see this so they had the rear? Structure essentially the firewall and the structure of the car Behind the seats re-engineered with like a carbon Insert that makes the structure of the convertible as Rigid as the structure of the coupe. Well, yeah, and they worked with Shit, I forget who it was They might they might have worked with the Lara or they worked with some Some Might have all I don't think it was Williams again. I think it was a different red bull. I think it was red bull They worked with red bull. I believe to make this carbon thing that reinforces The like drops into the open Yeah, basically they removed the firewall and they removed the floor of the car the floor pan of the car and they replace it with this carbon cell that That creates a much more rigid structure. I think if you scroll down it says it shows the thing It shows the piece Somewhere No, maybe not And it looks pretty rad though, doesn't it? Say a good time. Yeah, I'm sure it's fun, but I'm just saying there look they got five models available Matt. Yeah Classic turbo deal. Yeah, so, um, you know, thanks, man. I love you We had good things to say about the Manx as well He said they'll the low-speed drivability and the throttle engagement was really good Which for a weird engine is very hard to do Shall we go to the people sure should over at patreon patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast is where you help your favorite Podcasters keep their show floating. It's also where you ask us questions for the live show and then subsequently watch the live show It's where you get the show early It's where you can get the show without ads where you can get extra show and it's where you can get access to exclusive Collabs and things that we're doing over here. Zack and I had a Good creative meeting yesterday for our next collab. It's not a watch. I Think it could be really fucking cool. It's really cool I think it's fun and different and it's something I haven't really seen before so I'm excited to do it and We should have more on that one pretty soon, but it's it's that's gonna be really fun It's gonna be available exclusively to patrons Can you zoomza in please? I also interestingly zack went to went to get have my my eye exam I went to have my eye exam because I thought maybe my reading glasses were getting less effective And they said My my right eye has changed by point I think point five Percent mm-hmm and my left eye is the same as it was two years ago. So it seems good I mean it hasn't changed that much basically what they said is it's probably not worth me trying to get new glasses right now Should probably wait another year and see if it changes a little more. All right, otherwise. I'm spending 500 bucks for a That's basically the equivalent of All of the clothes I bought when I was a smaller XXL That I've worn twice and I'm now an XL which feels really good But now all these brand new fucking clothes are too big for me And so it's real like I you know, I'm proud I feel good at my club It's nice to be able to buy XL clothes really opens a lot of doors, but but I close you bought they can't wear Yeah, I know it's not that I buy fancy stuff, but I buy quality stuff So like you know, I bought I bought like some nice sweaters and shit that like are now I wore them once they're too big I'm like damn this fucking sweater was a 200 bucks do it. Oh fuck So I don't know what to do. I was listening to Stavie show and he said he's like somewhere in New York There's a storage unit with plastic bins full of his old sweatsuits that go from 5x Yeah, like whatever he is now and he's like I don't have to do it that well I was talking to my therapist this morning about this. Is it mentally healthy to get rid of all that stuff barring the cost or Do I store it in case we see it again? That's tough because if you get rid of it, you can go all right, I'll never it's like throwing away I don't know the life vest or whatever when you get to the desert island, right? I'm staying here That's when I was fat I mean I kept My skinnier stuff in case I saw it again, right and I did yeah now that stuff is too fatter Too too gone. So the question is I don't I think it's bad omen to keep the fatter stuff Yeah, a good motivation to keep the skinnier Totally great you go the other way yeah, that's what you want because you want to be on the skinny stuff You know what but if you have this backstop, I don't want to backstop right that stuff But there's a couple things that are like Sort of expensive like sweaters and jackets where I'm like ooh I'd hate to have to buy Big expensive sweaters and jackets again when I have brand new ones here You make them like winter Relaxy clothes like you wear the jacket with a sweater under it because it's super cold out and you could but here's the thing If you were once fat you never again want to layer up in a way that makes you look fat It's real this is a bit of fat fucking psychology. Yeah, you share with you You don't want to bulk on your clothes to fit Like and she means well she doesn't know she's been petite her whole life. She doesn't get this she was like No, what she's like just you just wear it oversized. I go oversized. Are you fucking crazy? Oversize you know how hard I've worked to not be wearing something oversized I'm not just gonna continue with that fashion like hip-hop, you know 90s super oversized come back in If Bellevue DeVoe comes back in fashion That's what that's what he's my tailor said yesterday with the suits my dad my dad gave me My dad has so many dope blazers. He ran Ralph Lauren My dad has all the dope blazers in the fucking world They doesn't wear anymore because he's retired. I'm now thin enough to wear his blazers I'm like so stoked about this and I'm stealing his blazers left and right. He don't even know except he in his 40s he's shrunk a little bit because he's old now, but he in his 40s He was six five and I'm six two so his blazers are a little long for me But that you can't cut them. That's a problem is you can't shorten a custom blazer It's just I can't really be done and so I have all these blazers that have fit me like dope except they're a little too long My tailors like just keep them for five years the fashion will come to you Yeah, all right Uh AMG Hammer Time Coon touch this says I Listened to your review of the Lotus Carlton from a couple weeks ago And it got me thinking about what a powerhouse Lotus engineering was in the 80s and 90s is that ironic? They haven't put their own engine in a car in over 20 years I mean is it our Engines are hard and I think Lotus Understood that their engines Were not that good and other people's engines might be better and they can focus on the things that they do well I think it's also really expensive to build engines. I think you know to actually like I don't know forge or cast your blocks and stuff like that It's probably a really Intense and expensive endeavor and Lotus has never been that flush with money, right? The hood left on latch thoughts on JSS X as an alternative to major airlines. That's jet sweet X I've flown it once For certain legs pricing is only slightly more expensive than a major and you can bring a dog on it We just like a dog smaller terminals you fly out of the private side. I don't hate it I would fly it more, but I dude. I am addicted to my Delta status. I'm so addicted to it. I Flying on American home from the BVI with no status Bro, I can't live like this Also, you know stat like the plane seemed old planes screens. Yeah, no, so like cross-continental flight So I would use jet sweet X a lot more if I wasn't so ingrained in the Delta Sphere I need my miles. I then use my miles. I then I get all these upgrades for my status I then can use so so because of my because I fly so much for work I get diamond status which gets me upgrades So like I can use an upgrade and effectively buy a coach ticket and get a first-class ticket Having said that if I couldn't do that, I would shop jet sweet X for every flight if I did not have loyalty It's dope seems nice. Yeah, it is dope. Yeah, it's prices very a lot like I looked up flying across the country is much more expensive than sure regular airline Oh, sure short trip. Yeah, you can be pretty good and convenient our good friend and our good friend my client and our and patron Tony a Loves jet sweet X he flies with his dog on jet sweet X all the time in cabin dog Yeah, dog hangs on that's the thing is like they're just there with you. Yeah, yeah, dude my dream I love it if I'm fucking if I'm hanging out in let's just say Delta comfort Exit row, maybe someone sits down next to the dog. Do you mind? I might yes Let's fucking in the dog hang out with me. Can I pet the dog? Yes, there you go. You just made my flight better Thank you, please bring I know people hate dogs on flights, but not me. I like a dog I feel like everyone smiles when the dog gets on the flight as long as it's a well-behaved dog. Mm-hmm Mmm Gavin Sullivan says Maserati Gran Turismo versus Aston Martin V8 vantage thoughts two ways to play this one new cars and cars that are like 2013 era cars. Yeah, very true. So let's start with 2013 era cars. My answer is clear Aston Martin I agree 100 all day every day get a stick get a manual looks better better interior I think at the time. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, definitely back in the day now today today Brand new I'm actually driving the Vantage s this week, but we'll leave that one out of it Let's say current gen Gran Turismo versus current gen Vantage still going Vantage also, yeah No, what I think the better question is no even now I say two years ago actually yeah four years ago before the Vantage before the Aston updates to the interior sure then It's a tighter race because the I think the exterior of the Aston was not as pretty The interior was aging real bad Maserati also wasn't that fresh, but that was closer you know as The grant as a new Gran Turismo given a sufficient cash on the hood It's a two plus two. Mm-hmm. It's a little more relaxed and it's actually a very nice road. Definitely It's also all-wheel drive. Yep, which depending on your climate may make a difference It's really a cheap Porsche turbo if there's cash on the hood, which there should be It's a cheap No No, it's not as good Bentley GT. Oh, okay. Yeah to cheap Bentley GT if there's cash on the hood. Yeah Yeah, the Vantage is sport more sporting. Yeah Dungeons and Dotsons is it possible these high gas prices might boost EV sales? Oh It is it is possible. We talked about this last show Americans seem to have kind of a short Attention span when it comes to it's literally come it seems to come down to how are the gas prices at the very moment? I need a new car. Yeah, or the very moment. I'm buying gas, right Was it Jared Rosenholz? I send you the website from carbons. Yeah shout out to him sent me an article After we talked about it for basically if gas went to four dollars a gallon nationally versus what it was today the average F-150 hybrid excuse me the average F-150 driver That has a five liter V8 the new F-150 would spend a thousand dollars a year more in gas than they're spending right now Whereas if you have a Camry hybrid you would spend something like $370 a year more than you were spending right now if gas went from Where it is today nationally to four dollars a gallon I Want to go to the table there's the table right and then here they had the second table which showed here we go Yeah yearly fuel so today National average is 246 but last week it was excuse me. I'm sorry Today it would cost you With today's fuel prices The average driver it would cost them $2468 to fill up an F-150 for a year last week it would have only cost $2127 so just from last week to today It'll cost you $340 more this year to fill up your F-150 The difference in a Camry Versus today versus last week is a thousand dollars ninety today and eight seventy eight last week So it'll cost you two hundred and eleven dollars more this year to fill up your Camry hybrid right then it then it just this week Cost you more this week from last week if it then goes to a four dollar national average The Camry driver will spend three hundred and seventy four dollars more than today per year Versus and the the F-150 driver will spend 1078 dollars so if gas goes to five dollars a gallon it'll cost $1464 to fill up your Camry for a year or thirty five hundred dollars to fill up your F-150 for a year Yeah, but you know back to the question and your point. I think Like it's only been it's been like two weeks So people might be a few people might be thinking about buying an EV and going oh shit I should have done that but for people to make a snap decision sell their car buy another car like it's a big effort They're probably hoping as we all are for many reasons like the conflict ends and prices go back right now If this is seven months in and you know tens of thousands of troops are there and it's like oh This is gonna be an eight-year situation Then people might start thinking about switching to a hybrid or EV But even then they're gonna have to do the math on How much more is this EV gonna cost versus the car I have gonna get a used one actually David here was telling me that There was a Polestar 2 on bring a trailer that went for like 12 grand. Yeah, that's an amazing buy It is so in that case sure but buying a new car. It might be too expensive So what would be very ironic to me would be if the Trump administration spent a year? Assaulting the idea of EVs Ensuring the tax credit goes away Finding this loophole so that the public chargers aren't built only to enter us into an unforced war Where gas gets so high that people are incentivized to buy EVs that would be The most Trumpy and loop of bullshit Yeah, yeah fuck I Don't know but I love having an electric car right now boy fucking do I Like walking to work Yeah, that too, right? Dugs the nana dogs the narrow that's good when it comes to finding parts for older cars the kuntosh for example Are you exclusively looking for new old stock? What if you can't find the parts you need our Manufacturers required by law to produce parts for a certain period of time after the model is discontinued I'll take the last part first Doug Yes, they are and oftentimes they stop as soon as they're legally required true I think Audi makes parts for ten years after the cars stopped being made other cars as well So I have had the privilege of not having to personally look for parts for the kuntosh Donnie did that and now Now that I'm not working with Donnie anymore Damien is doing that and Damien's people are doing that so fortunately I don't have to do that There are a pretty good number of resources for both new old stock and just new Parts for old Italian cars. I think they're expensive, but they exist now the hard one is Hannah's Nissan pow That motherfucker because it's rare and it's old and it's also not valuable enough that it's worth like an Industry popping up to service its needs, you know like Like at a certain point Pirelli was forced to start making tires again you know people bitched and Pirelli had to start making tires for kuntoshes and Diablo's and LM002's which is great means now that we can drive our cars For a long time like we couldn't are we if we wanted to it was shady But with a pow with a pow like man, there's parts where like You don't find that shit like it's because it doesn't exist anymore or you have to have something made or adapted You know so Real quick Hemmings and shout out Mike musto they did an article There actually is no law that exists that said in the United States that says companies have to keep making parts Oh, no way, but it seems like they I mean they do and I think agreement. Yeah, and this is also why you know You type in a part number and it'll be the same Bosch number or the same whatever number as other cars From other OEMs or other models. It's like car companies don't want to re-engineer or they don't want to have their Suppliers re-engineer a solenoid or relay or window part every new car right like that's cost prohibitive for everybody So they can keep it going so it might seem like they're continuing to make parts for your car You are model of car, but your part is probably in some other cars probably in some other cars So that that's good. No, it's more specific like the pow sure that's trouble You know the power know the power is a weird one the power is how I spent you know $1,800 having a genius diagnosed that my fucking blinker switch was fucked up, you know What is that the end no no no no no no Two cats one car. Oh no moving out of a city apartment finally getting a place that has a garage again I want a vintage fun car help me narrow down my choices I've got 50 grand a Land Rover Defender as a daily and I live in South Carolina Okay, e30 m3 Datsun 280z R32 Skyline GTR 996 turbo 911 SC gen 2 or 3 Viper Good run. I there's a lot of value in this in these choices. Yeah a lot of value and you are in South Carolina Boy, are you fortunate South Carolina? They don't give a no-fox 32 GTR they don't give a no-fox Japan is your oyster down in South Carolina. You are good to go So but here's the thing with South Carolina not a lot of curves Not a lot of corners So you're really looking for a car that's gonna be fun when you're cruising in straightaways and sweepers and things like that I think that gets rid of the e30. That's a slow 30 m3 is gonna be out yells at me. It's gonna be out for sure 280z Those for me to tears. Yeah, I can't I can't be interested in one of those. I'm personally I can't 996 turbos are A good choice good choice for South Carolina a 9-11 SC target. I love it in general I don't think South Carolina is the most interesting place to own that particular car But I can't hate on it a gen viper Now we're getting I think a gen gen two or three viper It's pretty fun for South Carolina It is a lot of respect down there. Yeah, they look I saw one on the highway today And I went damn to that thing have presents on the moon You just have to make sure you're short enough to use it meaning that you can see out the windshield, right? That's important, but make sure it's comfortable for you and I Think that's a good value for money in South Carolina. Yeah, so for me Our 32 GTR 996 turbo or viper Personally having driven all of those if you could get a great 996 turbo for 50 which I'm not sure you can But if you could that would be great 50 goes a pretty long way in an R32 Skyline. Yeah, that's a nice car Similar to a 996 turbo like they do similar jobs. Yeah, I think and furthermore if you're willing to throw 50 at a JDM car You could get some other shit that's real dope too. You could get a very sick Supra that would just happen to be right-hand drive You can get a chaser you get some other really interesting stuff. Yeah, that's true pretty interesting stuff if you're willing to go JDM, but I'd go between viper and GTR It really depends on their height and what you want to do with the car like if you want to do big big power stuff Eventually you get the GTR, you know put money into it and go do quarter mile or half mile shit I'd rather own a GTR than a viper Having driven them both pretty extensively my only Hesitation in South Carolina would be who's gonna work on my GTR. Yeah, so before you buy a JDM car in America Wherever the fuck you are you need to make sure you have a fucking guy. Yep, or gal or whoever You need a person that can fix it honestly preferably non-binary I mean honestly, not a robot if you're identifying as a gender you're not thinking about my car I need you to be asexual and non-binary and focused on fucking my head gas Do like what are your pronouns like you're worried about the wrong thing, sir? I want you to focus on the tolerances of these pistons and the cranking on stuff not a euphemism. That's so funny Username reimagined by singer With some sports cars nowadays being so refined you don't have to work to drive them fast like cars in the 90s and 2000s What new car would you like to be a little more unrefined? I mean BMW M cars BMW M cars are great a great choice, but I would also like to be able to I would also like to be able to Well, so unrefined is a good word because I can place it wherever I would like I'd like to remove all eight s functions upon restart from that would make them more unrefined technically I think there's I think one of the problems One of the things I'd remove is a lot of the NVH because there's a lot of cars today That sound good outside the car and we have to have the speakers talk to us because we can't hear the engine note because people have asked for a quieter car so Choose your sports car, but I mean there's plenty of stuff that sounds rad when you roll the window down and we roll it up You can't hear anything. Mm-hmm That's an interesting problem, right? It's like you people want their car to be more refined They also want to hear the engine They also don't want to hear the negative stuff. So what do you do? You know, they have to augment with with shit through the speakers or whatever and it's it's Usually when you turn that stuff off you realize why it's there in the first place Well, it's because it's like they're trying to get rid of a lot of road noise, yeah And that's how that's what a lot of the active noise cancelling is doing in a car It's getting like there's microphones in some cars in the wheel wells and shit It's cancelling these frequencies, but one of the byproducts of that is also muting the exhaust note Which is it can be a shame? Yeah LL Cartier You have gone to your head you have to take your wife on a date in a Mansourie product. What would it be? The what is the longest car they make I don't I'm not familiar with their can we pull up their website and see what their product range? Looks like today. I think they came up with something I think they came up with something recently that wasn't as Hainis as I've seen in the past. Well, that's not good. No, that's not the Rolls Royce But it sounds like a pasta dish we'll go back The Lamborghini carbonara carbonado can I have cheese on the side like a pasta dish? The Koenigsegg Jesko by Mansourie it doesn't look like they've done anything They've done a little too much have you yeah because the Jesko looks pretty aggressive I think they added all these many many gills here. Yeah, but like I can't personally tell that Koenigsegg hasn't done that like if I if you saw That that that's it you would take her on the boat I would take my wife on a boat in the Pirelli 42 by Mansourie, which is a ribbed boat Semi-rigid and that look it looks like it goes about 60 on the trip. We saw a bravest boat. Yeah Yeah, we did see the bravest it was kind of like this. It's got triple V12 offshore is God. That's Terrible Wow Equate oh God, it's gone. It's all gone wrong. This is better So yeah, the equestria which is based on a Ferrari 12-cylindry. That's very brutal. Wow, that's so terrible Are you Wait, is that real of course it is that's a G wagon Converted that dude convert it into a four-door convertible But it somehow looks like a Jimny it made it look like a gym I messed up the proportion somehow dude. It looks like a Chinese knockoff of itself. It does it does they've come full circle Okay, I'm not gonna say the word because we don't say the word anymore, but the word The are the our word is how it looks It's you know what I mean like yeah, it's fucking they've droopy dog did it's like it was golly's like there's angles here It makes it. It's just a collision of carbon fiber. I'm a droopy dog ass Thailand fucking Yeah crazy. Yeah, the whole front looks like it's melting. Oh My god, this is a fun game. All right, so far brutal the Bentley the cotton LGT Oh, wow is in black most subtle. It's a modicum of taste. Yeah, it's all black. That's why that's perfect The man story initiate from what I can see in this photo, which is apparently just an exterior silhouette It's perfect. They took a picture at night. That was good. Oh, no these Rolls Royce's are no go. Oh god What what are they doing? What are they doing to G wagons? This is called the pugnator the pugnator pugnator pugnator But if I'm if I'm if I'm buying an $800,000 car is the image I want to think of a pug love that dog We live with one for four years Not the aesthetic I'm going for it with it car 800 G's on the Ferrari So listen all these are bad, but one of them is a boat and so you could you know I think I'm gonna go with your answer I would take Sarah out in the Konig seg because it looks like a spaceship and is the rest of these are Just wrap and yeah, it's truly extraordinary truly extraordinary Impressive, it's really impressive. Yeah. Yeah Nugatari in Nagoya says I feel like Mitsubishi is circling the drain. Let's give them some love What are the best Mitsubishi's of all time? Oh? I mean every Evo obviously your Evo range and your Pajero Evo and your Eclipse your GSX You know and its siblings the eagle there was a there was the for a minute The Diamante was some shit, you know back in 93 and Diamante was like something I like the galant when I was younger. I thought it looked nice. I love your for a good-looking car 3000 GT was alright. Yeah, but yeah Rye Pontiac Rye Says the 25 WRX is doing a 0.0% APR And the 26 WRX has reduced its price by three to four thousand across the board. How are they valued in your opinion? I mean the thing about the WRX is it is a fabulous six tenths car Yeah, it's such a six tenths car The problem with that is you can get that same amount of joy from a lot of other cars So it's no longer unique in that way. Yeah, like It it's great at when we had a performance car of the year It was so soft like this formula was dope in o2 in o2 You know 225 250 horsepower all-wheel-drive manual light with that that was sick and rare It's been the same it's been the same shit since then so like it's not that this is a bad car It's that is a very soft car Yeah, and if you're trying to buy a car that took a real sports car It falls apart at like pretty low levels of stress Yeah, I think I've had more fun in a civic SI which is cheaper because these start at 37 grand That's crazy. It's so you're getting like what's in a launcher and the launcher and is Same or less a little bit. So yeah, what a little bit like same or less and just smoking it Yeah, absolutely destroying it. Um, that starts at 35 cheaper Yeah, the idea that you buy a WRX today rather than a launcher and is crazy It that is a wild thing but like people go all-wheel-drive Just if you got good tires front-wheel-drive is gonna be fine. Yeah, that's the rule Wow, and I think Subaru they asked Is Subaru ever considering the idea of an STI? I think there's some stories last week that Subaru put some patent docks in for something that looks a lot like a new STI so I mean If they're gonna be taken seriously as a performance brand, which I don't know if they care if they are true I mean they make money selling Foresters and outbacks and whatever and and I've you've heard my thoughts on the new outback. They're not great, but Anyway, let's go to broken BMW Apologist I'm headed to a car wait. Oh, okay I'm headed to a car related photo shoot our professional driver has had to cancel last second the shoot team knows I've been doing High-performance driving and racing for a decade and have asked me to fill in as pro driver I feel a bit of imposter syndrome because obviously the goal of racing is not to power slide around corners on demand Any advice on how to approach power sliding a car on demand for camera? Yes Do have advice there's a lot I think there's a lot to this question There's a lot to this question and this is advice that is worn in blood Not blood, but one Very much totaled Audi R8 at the Anglesey circuit for people listening. This is great You're pouring a whiskey which is like I like I just asked the police officer of 40 years like this story He's like this night. Yeah, you know crack it. All right. Listen. Here's the lesson. I learned from Chris Harris and I'm gonna tell you You don't Learn to slide a corner in a car Now I assume you're You're gonna be driving a car that is not your car. Okay, this is if this is your car and you're You know familiar with how to slide your car and the only difference is there's a camera there That's a different question. Make sure the camera is in a very safe place Make sure it's not in the impact zone meaning on the outside of the corner unless they have a lot like if everything went really wrong On this corner your energy is probably going to the outside of it and make sure that camera is not in that spot or it's looping to the inside Just after the apex if you overcook it and loose so don't be in those two places. Yeah, that's the photographers side And I will say real quick and I'll let you go like This photography team They may not be as experienced as you think they are they may be very experienced great But you are gonna have to think about safety and if you if they're putting you in a position that you feel is unsafe You have to be able to tell them that and maybe explain why because they might just go well we shoot Flowers and dogs a lot. Why can't I stand here like because if I lose it here? I'm hitting you in the face with a car, so right just be comfortable doing that So in my experience and I say this is not being the best driver in the world If you're the best driver in the world if you're leaking if you're Chris Harris You're probably not asking this question in the smoke entire podcast, so I'll assume you're not right So here's what Chris taught me After I fucking crashed and here's what I've done ever since and has worked The way to learn how to slide a car around a corner is not to try to slide a car around a corner The way to slide a car around a corner is to drive the car clean with traction control fully disabled Until you go and pushing yourself faster and faster and faster and Breaking into the corners harder and harder and harder To load up your front end harder and harder and harder So that eventually you get to a point where you turn in on that front end and the back steps out naturally Where you're gonna have a problem is if you try to initiate a power slide on power That's a less controllable slide Whereas what you really want and any drifting school would teach you this but same here is you want to be going quick enough that you have a break really hard and Breaking really hard is going to shift that weight forward and you lay on that break and you are trail breaking through the turn in So that as you're turning in that weights on the nose so much that that's when the back end steps out for the slide and You and by initiating your slide under braking you have a much more controlled slide That is really what you want to be doing for the camera, so you don't Just fucking sit at the entrance to the corner and try and power just Because you're just gonna spin. It's just gonna be a mess instead Practice driving it clean go. Okay guys photo team. We need our clean shots first While you get your clean shots, you're going quicker and quicker and quicker until you find a point the car Wants to oversteer under braking or you can make it oversteer under braking and that's the start point for doing your slides I think Or don't listen to me cuz I don't fucking know shit TST's new Peter built to Kenworth. It's a Kenworth. I will only buy a Kenworth. You should watch ice road truckers, too It's crazy The oh PSA the right to repair act was introduced in the house that needs enthusiast communities help Signs it sign the petition. Is that the thing? What do we want? What do they want people to do? Do you do do do yeah tell your legislator to support it? So just go to the website We'll put in the show notes, but this comes up every year Unfortunately, and it's something that basically affects anyone who owns a car. So yeah I don't know the answer to carne azanda's question. Although you have a great username Prayer of the refugee wagon with Montana plates What would net the better driving and ownership experience an older but well maintained 9-11 or a newer Boxster Cayman that cost the same as an older 9-11 lots of things to consider but for the same entry price What would you choose dude? This is a tough one because it's I Don't personally and maybe this makes me elitist somehow, but I don't I don't work backwards from my budget. I Don't go I have $40,000 that can get me a 2014 Cayman or it can get me a 2006 9-11 which should I buy I Have a dream that one day My children that don't exist that that I I have a dream I have a dream to own a car That dream to be a long-term dream like the kuntosh It could be a short-term dream like I drive Rick demand silver car and I go fuck me I've got to have this or Lee Keane's car would go. Oh my god I've got to have this but but I have a dream I fall in love with a car and then I figure out how to pay for you So this question of what is the better driving owner experience? It's like The the the quote owner experience is you have a Porsche you have to maintain it at Porsche shops Or maintain it yourself using Porsche parts like it's not that much more expensive to maintain a 9-11 Than it is to maintain a Boxster. That's the argument against cheap boxers and 944s and 968s and whatever the fuck right? so like Do you want a mid-engine car or do you want a 9-11 like you know do you do you do you think differently than me on this No, I was thinking of the car first. Yeah, I don't go I have this much money That I just want to spend on a car. What can I get? It's like what has captured my imagination and then can I find a car that costs this much and if I and if I can't What what cars are available in my budget range that would give me some of the same flavor Yeah, the question isn't what would approximate a 9-11 for 40 grand or what would approximate a Cayman it's it's I Don't I don't want to dismiss a question that starts with budget and works backwards because so many of our questions start with budgets and work Backwards and almost everybody out in the real world does have a budget But I just really want to impress on people that starting with a it's weird to me personally I have a budget it might be higher than other people's but I have a budget. I can't just fucking buy whatever I Like you I start with a dream and then figure out a budget so I What you know, what do you want? Do you want a newer Porsche mid-engine? You do you want an older Porsche rear-end? They just feel different like I Don't believe that a 9-11 is inherently better than a Cayman. It's not In many ways, it's worse actually And obviously I spent my money on a Boxster. I could have bought a 9-11 There's a million 9-11's I could have bought but I bought a Boxster and I love it and it's fucking perfect so like, yeah, it's like what's your dream and I mean, yes, you can buy a nicer newer more powerful Cayman for the same money then you can get 9-11 sure but like that may not be the dream Yeah, the vibe will be different this power will be different the handling is different. Yeah cost of ownership probably be different Re-education through working on shit boxes. That's very good I'm looking into e46 m3 smg's with the sole intention of manual swapping them Have either of you driven a swapped one and is there anything notable or weird about them that could potentially make it worthwhile to? Just get the original I Haven't heard any real issues with manual swapping BMW's I haven't either if they're done by if they're done the right way with all the right parts From what I've heard they feel the same well, and I don't think so BMW unlike Ferrari like Ferrari only made a Very small number of let's say manual gearbox 5 9 9's Like parts don't exist. You know Ferrari made a very small number Relatively speaking of manual gearbox 430s like the the parts have been made by third parties Hopefully to factory spec but like maybe not the BMW e46 There is no shortage of factory spec parts that are available to do this swap Right. Yeah, you could any part because the company's because BMW knows I need to be able to service my manual Equipped from the factory e46 so all the parts and all the little knickknacks and all the levers are available Yeah, one of those fails on my car. Yeah, and it's is it get dragged to make sure gearbox I think so and so the get drag six speed it was used in other things Other BMWs other other stuff like in its basic form So things like clutch cables and love it just like all that shit just like exists for BMWs So like whereas the you know the limited number of Ferraris and like back when I was investigating that shady-ass company I called Graziano because this company was alleging to me that they could do 4 5 8 swaps and other other manual for I swaps and they said that they had gearboxes coming from Graziano Well, I called fucking Graziano and they had no idea these people were well So It's not always above board right but I Suspect and as I know and I mean this is suspect that there are enough parts Available to do an effective manual BMW swap. I think it's a known thing I would just look on the forms and stuff and make sure there's no weirdness with like the computer That you know the car came with an automatic does it get does the engine get talked to by that transmission and now is it getting Confused but probably not I mean we've given us a SMG is dude I'll tell you that SM an SMG is straight trash so bad even even our boy Peters car and what a lovely I was amazing what a lovely man and what a lovely build but like you ain't fooling me motherfucker I was like all this money He wanted to be like the one he had I get it bro as an SMG swap it garbage Jacking off the record if you were keeping a watch for life. Would you care about the box and papers? No, I would not No, I have watches that don't have box papers. I don't give a fuck It's money box and papers is money is money and money out You're gonna pay less up front because the watch doesn't have box and papers and then the guy you sell it to is gonna pay you Less because the net box and papers in between that motherfucker's on your wrist The box and papers if they existed or in some drawer somewhere Taking up space and if I knew I was gonna keep the watch forever forever forever Then I wouldn't care about the box and papers because I would only have that if I'm like Maybe one day I'll sell this and I'll get more money for it If you already have the box and papers you should keep them. There's not a reason not to keep them There's I wouldn't seek out that watch with that stuff I understand why people want it you buy a car with service records by car. No service records You know me and you buy you buy a car with no service records It's gonna be 20% cheaper and you might have to do fucking whatever right and then you sell the car with service records And it's gonna bring less money because of the same exact reason. It's the same bullshit If you have them great if there's a watch you love that doesn't have them price accordingly You know make sure it's not fake, you know, but there's fake boxes and fake service records like You you buy the seller but in my opinion like no if the watch is if the watch is legit It's a real watch like whatever like no money and money out. Yeah Avenged Lotus sevenfold. That's great What's a normal car that a manufacturer could have made special? That's a very good question And I think one of your examples is actually the one the Honda fit type R a Fit type R would have been bananas It would have been so fast Absolutely would have ripped. I like that a lot. Yeah, I mean people they race those things They're they're really really fun. The Juke R was special, right? The Juke R was absolutely special So that one I wouldn't include but yeah a fit type R would have been sick. Yeah Element off-road nah, that would have been slow and that would have been like an outback who cares a normal car I mean, I Gotta give a shout out to Ford on this one the Maki rally that's a toaster to an unbelievably dynamic machine that I would put up against the 9-11 Dakar in a rally scenario any fucking yeah Or like put up against Jerk Rola. Yeah, sure. Yeah That's a good one. Mm-hmm. I Would not charge your hell cat normal. No Pontiac Simon Phoenix so by the way I've I've If you come to the race if you end up doing the doing the race I'm I'm Almost locked on a Durango hell cat Transport vehicle for us to get from the airport to the track because the the Friday is practice Quality day and you can run street vehicles Okay, and we could track test the Durango hell cat at Rotor Wow Good I did the I did the Jeep track Hawk Atlanta and it was an unbelievably fun. Yeah, dude The drink will be fun. It'll be really good. Yeah, we'll rip talk about gas consumption, bro It's so bad four miles per gallon. Maybe it would be so bad But Dodge is giving me a charger for this road and track thing the the the desert 600 But they won't let me put it on the track They say there's a track ready one Coming but it's not this one and they don't want me to put it on the track And I I understand I I do understand and I'm not gonna put on the track I want to drive it on the road trip But I said, you know like the week after that trip. I'm going to road America Do you have a Durango hell cat in Chicago? Because I have to pick up three people at the airport and load all of their fucking shit and racing gear out to Wisconsin to the track And then I need something to practice in on Friday Road America and he's like we have a Durango hell cat for you That the sound of that on the long straight. Oh, man, you get to listen to that that tune You might be passing race cars It is possible because the race cars are on track to yeah, but it's a horse power. Yeah, you're fucking dude You're the our race cars like 280 horsepower At the end of the straight it would definitely pass it power away be damned Yeah, plus the Yeah, it's so silly Pontiac Simon Phoenix last one and then we're gonna wrap this particular show and we'll save the rest for later My brother is looking at a tycon. He's convinced he wants an early model turbo or turbo s I'm trying to convince him to get a newer base model Anything that he would be missing going with this plan Okay You Just my advice you don't want a 20 or 21 You want a 22 and up? That's what I have my car has been fine like but why do you not want that year? the first year had really some issues big common bugs battery problems and all all kinds of crazy shit and A lot of the cars were fixed some of the cars were lemon, but like So so I I wouldn't get a 20 or 21 Wouldn't buy any of them honestly 22 and up. I think you're probably okay having said that if All tycons are really fast like even the base model so If you aren't used to very fast cars a tycon turbo s is like riding a rocket. It's it's it's Disturbingly fast it will make you nauseous People want what they want and they just want the fastest one. I get it you want to brag or whatever Scary friends once or twice like I totally get it like What I wouldn't do is talk someone out of the thing they want Be by saying they don't need it because that's not how people buy car Yeah, but but I would advise them against buying a 20 or a 21 and I would just say look a four s 2022 is still like insanely fast Like just get that and you'll have a lot less issues reliability whatever You know de-badged if you must right or get him a turbo badge for Christmas because he's looking at the the bad year turbo That means that whoever's selling it knows it's from a rough year They're gonna unload it for cheap and if he can so but if he's looking at like a 23 Turbo and he can afford that versus like a 24 25, you know, I says early model early model to me means 2021 Yeah, then just send him the many many forum posts. Yeah, the reliability stories are not great on those and and and 22 and up is substantially better. They refined a lot of stuff and and Ours has been ours is just one but it are ours has been good. I haven't heard like crazy horror stories about about them So that's I'd focus on reliability more more so than you don't need a turbo because nobody wants to hear that shit You know I'm saying I have a number of people I know that have cars Beyond the power that they're truly capable of handling is huge. Yeah, it's basically everybody So yeah, right. Yep, right. That's our show. Thank you everybody. We love you all Thank you to our patrons for supporting us throughout the years We we certainly appreciate it and thank you to everybody else for listening. We appreciate you as well. See you next time. Bye