Legally Brunette: The Homicidal Heartthrob - Wade Wilson

Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring Podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi guys, welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette. I will be your host today, Emily Simpson, with my sidekick. Shane. Shane. I'm the main kick. You're the main kick. You are the main kick. Today, we are going to talk about, there is a new documentary, I believe it's on Paramount Plus. If you've had the opportunity to watch it, it is called Handsome Devil Charming Killer. It is the story of Wade Wilson. I will tell you, I didn't know anything about this case. I only was familiar with seeing images of him. That's it. I didn't know. The Handsome Killer. You just know the Handsome Killer. I only knew what he looked like. I didn't know, I knew nothing. I didn't know any facts of the case. I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know anything for killers. I don't. I don't have a thing for Wade Wilson. A lot of women do. So we'll get into that. So let's go into this. I actually, once I started watching it, I was like, I mean, it's an interesting case. So Wade Steven Wilson is a Florida resident and he drew national attention after being linked to two killings that occurred on the same day in October of 2019. Often referred to in the media as the dead pool killer because he shares a name with a fictional character. I didn't know that. Did you know that? Was the name of the dead pool guy? No. Wilson was convicted in the deaths of Christine Melton, who was 35, and Diane Ruiz, who was 43. The two cases unfolded in rapid succession and deeply unsettled the Fort Myers community, later becoming the focus of widespread international coverage. What state is this? Florida. Oh, Florida. Yeah. To the Florida or Ohio. It's always Florida or Ohio. Others say Wilson first killed Melton, then later that same day he killed Ruiz. During questioning and court proceedings, Wilson reportedly made alarming statements about the killings. Then in June of 2024, a jury in Lee County gave him an official sentence on January 20th. So this was recently Paramount Plus released a documentary examining his background and crimes titled Handsome Devil Charming Killer. All right, let's go a little bit into who is Wade Wilson. It's interesting sometimes to me how when we do podcasts and we do episodes, sometimes they tie into each other and it wasn't even intentional. And we talked about, this was a couple episodes ago, if you guys haven't listened to it, it's the Parkland shooting and we had Judge Liz on. Who was the judge presiding over the Parkland shooting case? Right. And it was very interesting. If you haven't had the opportunity to listen to that episode, it's really interesting to listen to a judge who presided over a school shooting case. A death penalty case. It was a death penalty case. I believe 15 people perished during that. I mean, it was tragic and horrible. And to listen to her speak about it from her viewpoints is very, very interesting. But because of the Parkland case, Florida changed the death penalty law because of that case. And what was it before? You had to have unanimous jurors. Agree. Agree. And you had to have unanimous jurors on the sentencing being death. Right. And then when the Parkland case, when it came to sentencing, there were a couple jurors that held out on him getting the death penalty and he ended up not getting the death penalty and the Florida residents or community was outraged. So we'll get more into that because that leads into Wade Wilson and his sentencing. So Wade was born in Florida in 1994 to teenage parents ages 14 and 15. That is young. 14 and 15 to have a child. Yeah. And Wade was adopted soon after birth by Cindy and Steve Wilson of Cape Coral, according to News Press. So far, it's like started off in a bad scenario, right? Well, parents. Well, and also, you're right. Yeah. And then did you say adopted adopted? So now opportunity, right, comes in to save him from what could be a difficult upbringing. And you know, the adopted parents love him and want him and care for him. They go through all those hoops and hurdles to get to him. And then we're, you know, death penalty. Yeah. Reports indicate he experienced behavioral challenges early in life, including repeated school suspensions tied to aggressive conduct and class. These struggles reportedly continued into adulthood, court filings and witness testimonies show Wilson moved through cycles of therapy, substance abuse treatment and brief periods of relative stability. And by his early twenties, he had accumulated a significant criminal record with arrests involving allegations such as domestic violence, sexual battery, drug offenses and other charges. So his adoptive parents wrote a letter to the court asking for him to not get the death penalty. They wanted to keep him alive. Obviously, this is their child. So that's what they're asking for. He has sisters. I do not know if the sisters are adopted as well or else or if they're biological to the parents, I do not know that. But his mother talks about his adoptive mother talks about how his behavior really changed after he after he was told that he was adopted. Oh, yeah. So I think from her viewpoint or from what she says is that he was a well adjusted, happy kid, didn't get in trouble, did well in school, you know, good looking, athletic, all the things. No face tattoos, no face tattoos, popular, all the things. And then once he found out that he was adopted, something. I wonder what the story is with how they told him. You know, and he took a turn, right? Well, that's what they that's the story. The story. That's when they say the behavior, the drugs, the alcohol, the violence, they're getting in trouble, getting suspended. He was processing it. You probably, well, obviously he wasn't processing it, but I mean, he had difficulty. Well, I would say the first thing that goes through your mind is when you find out something like that is it's it's abandonment. And that's very difficult, probably as a young child to deal with. And I don't know what happened. I don't know. It's weird because I thought about that too. And I can't, I've never been in those shoes. So I don't know. But what comes to mind is it's abandonment. But then you also have two parents that went through a lot to get you. Right. You know. Yeah. You know, I don't know. And maybe that part's kind of forgotten. Well, I don't know if, if, if they told him and also offered therapy at the same time, I don't want to judge these parents. I don't know enough about them, but I don't know. Maybe he needed therapy along with learning about that. And also it's got to be shocking to learn maybe older and older. How old was he when he learned high school? I believe around the high school age. Let's see. Axl Rose learned his stepfather wasn't his biological father when he was 17. And then he ran away and started going to the roses and wrote, welcome to the jungle. Yeah. So you're saying this guy went and killed two people. You're saying that there's anger and abandonment. You need to harness it into the art world. And take it and use it for good instead of for evil. Like you can take that anger and it's okay to have the anger, but go out into the world and do something good with it. Right. Like right, like write a rock album. Right. I love that. He, Shane is the all knowing of Axl Rose. So I find him going to be a character. You do. Following his arrest for the murders, we're about to discuss. Wilson's adoptive parents submitted a letter to the court that was read aloud during his sentencing in the letter. They reflected on his early years writing, quote, Wade was a joyful child, loved his parents and sisters, and was loved immensely and return. They added that as he grew older, quote, Wade began to slip away from us, becoming withdrawn, erratic and depressed at first. Then his addiction was added to mental illness and he became frankly paranoid and delusional and a sense of loss became increasingly sharp and quote, so that you can tell from their viewpoint, there was a drastic decline. He went from one thing to another. Also, I'm not sure how this happened, but he, he did end up having somewhat of a sporadic relationship with his biological father. And I don't know if that helped or hindered him, maybe talking to his dad occasionally and not having a full blown relationship with him. But we'll talk about the dad a little bit because he's key to the criminal activity. Hey, there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So on October 6th, 2019, this is the day of the murders that took place in Fort Myers, Florida. In the early morning hours, he was with Christine Melton and Christine Melton was 35. So Wade had met Christine Melton at a bar. It was called the Bouda Bar and this is in Fort Myers. The two later went to Melton's home. First they went to like, she was with a friend at a bar. So you have Christine Melton with a friend at a bar. And they had no prior interactions? No, they didn't know each other. She meets this guy, Wade Wilson, at the bar. The two friends, I think someone else and Wade Wilson leave that night and they go to a friend's house. Then after they go to the friend's house, they go to Christine's house. Her friend, I don't remember her name, but I know that she testified at trial, was there with them and then she left leaving Christine Melton and Wade Wilson together alone. I'm sure this friend probably has the worst guilt ever. Or maybe it's guilt mixed with like relief that she didn't say as well. Survivors guilt. Survivors guilt and then some form of relief. But can you imagine? I mean, I can't imagine. I'm just like with one of, and they were best friends. I believe they were cousins, cousins and best friends. You go out, you have a fun night at the Buddha Bar, you're out late, you go home, you take this guy, she probably thinks he's, you know, she's, you know, bagged this really handsome, good-looking, charming guy. Is he that good-looking? He's a good-looking guy. He is. I got to give him that. He is. Okay. And then she leaves her alone with them. And then to find out the next day that, you know, that she's dead. How, what was the matter of murder? He strangled her. So after they go back to Christine Mountain's home, the best friend left and Wilson and Melton were left alone. They had sex. They had sex. And then Wilson strangled her to death. I believe he strangled her to death while she was sleeping. And then he wrapped her up in blankets and I had her all wrapped up and like put her in a hallway. I've seen images of the crime scene and it's just a body wrapped up in all kinds of blankets and like shoved in a hallway. I think her cat was sitting next to her when they found her. Um, after the killing, he left the scene and also stole her car. Her body was discovered inside her home, wrapped up in sheets and were tied together with her clothing and her cat was found sitting next to her side. After he steals Christine Mountain's vehicle, he goes to his girlfriend's place of business. She owns a spa. It's called like spa by Mila or something. And he assaults her. I mean, like I think beats her up in the parking lot. And then he's still in the stolen vehicle and she calls the police. I believe maybe other people in the, in the, you know, shopping center call the police. So now the police are looking for this guy. Um, and then they end up pulling him over or in a cop asked him to get out of the car. He won't get out of the car. I don't, it's just like a big, he just out on a rampage. So just hours after the first murder, when we were talking about Christine Mountain, he's driving in the stolen car of the girl he just murdered and he encounters Diane Ruiz and she's walking, just walking alongside the road. She's going to work and she is engaged. So she has a fiance at home. He reportedly convinced her to get into his stolen car under false pretenses asking for directions to a nearby high school. I don't know how much of the story I believe his story is when, when I've heard, um, when I've heard testimony, him talking about what he did, he says that he, um, got her into the car and that they had consensual sex in the car. And then he ended up strangling her in the car and throwing her out of the car. They don't really ever touch on that in the trial and anything I've seen. I don't know if it's out of respect for the fact that quickly, she just jumped in a car and I don't know if he's boasting and trying to get her out of the car. He's trying to make it like, at the end of the day, she gets in the car. His story is that, you know, he used his charm because he's so charming. He uses charm and good looks to get her into the car and then they had consensual sex and then he strangled her and then he threw her out of the car. And then he runs over her between 10 to 20 times. And then obviously she's dead at that point. Then he abandons her body in a field in Lee County. How did they tie him to this murder? I think they're looking for him because the girlfriend, he actually has a girlfriend. Mila called the police and reported the assault. And so the police are actually looking for him in this vehicle. Right. OK. But then he calls. So then he's hiding, right? Because he's in a stolen vehicle. So he's hiding. He's just killed two people within a 24 hour period. He's in a stolen vehicle. So I believe he's hiding in like an abandoned house or something. And he calls his dad, his biological dad, not just adopted dad, his biological dad. And he tells him, he tells him that he killed two women and he basically tells him like he's excited. And I think at first the dad doesn't really believe him. He thinks he's like on drugs. Well, he is on drugs, but he thinks that maybe he's just, you know, I don't know, hallucinating out of his mind, making something else. It might also be hard to accept that your kid calls you and says, I killed two people. Right. You're hoping the way he's telling it. You're like, what? Right. Because if he probably called and was breaking down and confessing and saying it was horrific and he didn't mean to, it would probably be very believable right front. But if he's calling boasting about it, laughing about it or or thinking he's some macho guy that killed people or whatever, then maybe the father's like, what? Like, yeah, like are you just messing with me or what? So the dad actually testifies against him in court. And from what I recall about his testimony, I think he says something to the effect of at first, he just, he didn't believe him at first. But then when the more he listened to him and the more he was giving details about these two different murders and running her over and I mean, and the way he was talking about it, like he was bragging, like he was sharing something with him that like he was excited about. Then the dad actually did the right thing. Yeah, good. And he called the police and reported him. And then he was actually pretty smart. He asked his son where he was because he said, let me send you an Uber to the address, you know, I'll help you. And then when is when Wade gave him the address, then he turned the address over to the police and said, this is where he's located. And then they arrested him without incident. So that's how he was arrested. Good for him. You know, I'm guessing the second murder, they might have easily tied it together because the car, they find a lady who's been run over and. Well, and I think he killed. And I think he was just bragging about what he did. Yeah. And then you're right. And then the father saying, yeah, so it's probably easy to put together. During police interviews, Wade also made disturbing remarks, including saying he would do it again. So he actually tells them what he did. I mean, no, he doesn't ask for an attorney. He doesn't, he just, it's, it's like he's proud of it. He asked for a burger and fries. And he said, I'll tell you anything you want to know if you get me a burger and fries. So they got him. I'm a simple man. I'm a simple man. I just, just give me some in and out. I'll tell you anything you want to know. Well, it's Florida. There's no, there's no in and out in Florida, huh? No. Oh. Only in California, Oregon, I think Washington now, Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, Texas, and then now Tennessee. Shane is just full, full of facts today. He knows everything there is to know about in and out and Axl Rhodes. Lindsay Snyder. She's the owner of In-N-Out. What's her name? Lindsay Snyder. Lindsay Snyder. I think Shane goes to In-N-Out so much. He's hoping to run into Lindsay. Been there a lot. She's a billionaire. No, no, no, no. She's, she's on her fourth marriage. No, thank you. No, she's not your type. She is a billionaire though. She is a billionaire. A billionaire. Yeah. You asked me if Wade is good looking. Yes. Billionaire and burgers. That's a pretty good combo. That would be perfect for you. I need you to make a billion dollars. Yes. And make some burgers. Okay. During his police interviews, not only did he admit to saying things like he would do it again, but also he admitted to running over Ruiz. That's who he picked up on the side of the road. Yeah. Saying that he ran over her until she looked like spaghetti. He also stated in regards to Melton's death, that was the first girl, that I choked her out until she couldn't breathe anymore. It came across my mind to murder just kill, kill, kill. So this is. This is a person that will repeat the crime. Absolutely. He should be put away for that reason alone. So during the pretrial and legal proceedings, this is from 2019. To 2023. Remember these murders took place in 2019. Also, here's another question we were talking about the other night. He killed two women within a 24 hour timeframe. Does that make him a serial killer or not? So yes, we talked about this because you asked me to like, you asked me the same question and I looked up and it said it kind of used to be three or more. Now two or more is considered serial. It's not the motive so much as it is the pattern. If there's kind of a repeat pattern in the way of killing, that's a serial killer. And there has to be a cooling off period in between the killings. Otherwise it's a killing spree or something other. So like if it's a pattern like he picks up, he finds women shopping in the produce section and then he and they are certain height and weight and and you know, hair color and he did it one week and they did a second one another week. That would be a serial killer. OK, so then we can safely say Wade Wilson was a killing spree. I think so. Not a serial killer. It sounds silly because at the end of the day, killed two people. Call it what you want. But yes, I think it falls more in a killing spree than it does in as a serial killer. So in 2019 to 2020, 2023, this is where we have the pre-trial and legal proceedings against him. He was formally charged with two counts of first degree murder. Defense attorneys raised issues involving mental health and substance abuse. And prosecutors argued that the murders showed a pattern of escalating violence and premeditation. It's interesting because when I watched the trial, first of all, I would say that his defense attorneys hate him. I and not that a defense attorney has to like their client. I mean, I would say defense. You're saying their body language and facial expression showed that they're waiting for the trial to be over. Yeah, I just think they, you know, and everyone deserves a fair trial and everyone deserves the due diligence of a trial and they were putting on mitigating factors. We talked about this with Judge Liz, mitigating factors and aggravating factors when we talked about the Parkland shooting. So in this case, it was the same thing. There's aggravating factors about how violent he was, how quickly he killed, how he had no remorse, how he, you know, strangled her and then ran over her with a car. Then your defense is going to present mitigating factors. You know, they tried to present that. Let me guess. He was adopted. Adopted. He used to be great until he learned he had, he was adopted. Well, they also claim that he had some type of brain injury that, you know, that he couldn't help himself and also that he suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome that because his parents were. Again, similar to the last conversation, it doesn't matter. That's if anything, that's all the more reason to lock someone like that up because they will kill again. I think the mitigating factors aren't because they're not, it's because of the death penalty. They're not looking for him to get acquitted. They're saying. Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. This guy killed people because he's evil and he wanted to kill people. So we'll put him to death. This guy can't help himself. He just has to kill people. It's like his brain. So he shouldn't be put to death. Let him live and wish he could kill people every day. Yeah, it was. Is that me? Yeah. That's why I don't get those mitigating, aggravating factors. You're saying just like with the Parkland shooting. He strangled someone. What's it matter what the purpose was? He strangled someone. You're saying you don't ever think that there's any type of scenario where if someone is a murderer and a psychopath, it does not matter to you whether it's because they had a bad childhood or not. Not so much. Not for no, for sympathy, sure. But not for purposes of why they should be locked up or whether they should be locked up or whether they should get the death. It's really about the death penalty. OK, but OK, fine. It's about the death penalty. It's a different subject. No, we're talking about the discussion. We're talking about the death penalty. I know we're talking about his defense. Put on evidence of mitigating factors so that he would not get the death penalty. He already they already know he did the crimes. They're not trying to get him acquitted. They're not trying to say he's innocent. They're not trying. They're saying, please don't put my client to death because he had fetal alcohol syndrome. He had a bad life. He was adopted. He has brain injuries, can't help himself. So you're saying the mitigating circumstances shouldn't be put on because they're trying to get it on. See it as no, I don't see that. I see him as he went out and he wanted to kill two people. He bragged about it and he said he'd do it again. Here's the other interesting thing with Wade Wilson. He was a while he was on trial. He was a phenomenon in the media as far as social media. He had a ton of women that were obsessed with him and they called them. I think the prosecution named them Wade's wives and they show in this documentary. It's so interesting because they play so many tapes, recordings, jailhouse recordings of him talking to so many different women, tons of different women, and these women are sending him money. They're sending him suits. They're sending. He wants like a Gucci suit to wear to court. He wants alligator shoes to wear to court. And these women are just they're all making it happen. And then they're all showing up to court every day to watch them. You can see them all sitting, sitting on the benches while he's at trial, you know, just in love with him and it's rolled by him. Going to be on the what was it love and lock up or whatever. What was that called that we still watch? I love that. Well, there was life after lock up and then there's love after lock up or something. I don't know. That's some good reality TV. I don't watch housewives. I don't even watch Orange County. I don't even I don't watch it at all. And but I will watch love after lock up. Talk about good reality TV. Well, there was like love while locked up or something. I don't know. They were they were in jail, dating or whatever you want. Yeah. And then courting. And then there was then it was such a phenomenon because of people like us. Yeah, because then they did the like life after lock. Now he's he or she is released from prison and they're with their happily ever after love, mate. Yeah. And then we watch the disastrous relationship fall apart. I'll never forget. There's one episode. I mean, I've seen many, many episodes, but there's one episode where a guy got out of prison and the girlfriend picked him up and then they literally had like a camera crew, you know, following them. Such a reality. And they stopped on the side of the road and had sex on the way home in the bushes. Right. Can you imagine the camera crew? They're just like, what? We're pulling over. We're in the woods. I don't know. They might have told them to. I I don't know. But that one I was like, this is just insanity. This is good reality TV. So anyway, well, yeah, he was smart by getting it before they broke up. Getting what? Like getting it on. Oh, because you know, yeah, they never last. Wilson notoriously gained a huge following primarily of women that found him attractive and voiced their unwavering support of him. You know, it's so funny. They also show in this documentary all these women online, you know, making TikToks about him and making content about him and posting and writing comments about him. And it just made me realize that people don't care about facts. They don't care about facts. They don't care about what really happened. So many of these women are like, bring him home. He's innocent. The man admits to what he did in court. You could watch it on court TV. There's graphic details of how he killed these two women. Diane Ruiz's son, who was 14, gets on the stand and talks about how he wanted to commit suicide, his mother never came home again. He himself says he did it. Yes, that's what I'm saying. They play. I mean, they play recordings of the air. People don't look at that stuff. It's like when Michael Jackson had trials, everyone was outside the courthouse. And they were dressed up like Michael Jackson. They were playing his music. That was their evidence. It was like, he's the king of pop. Right. How could he have done this? Clearly he's innocent. So these women are just like, he's innocent. Bring him home. Or they don't care whether he is or not. Well, I think some don't care because there were actual recordings of women saying, I don't care what he did. Oh, there you go. He's just so good looking. I don't care what he did. I don't care that he's strangled women. Meanwhile, I can't empty out the trash fast enough before you get mad at me. And these women are willing to overlook murder charges. Yes. Well, those are a different type of women. So Wilson received nearly 4,000 messages in prison, many from misguided women who have sent him X rated photos. According to public records, authorities had to reject 163 inappropriate photos. These fans were sending him money for his prison canteen and donating. To delete it. Like someone has that job. Yeah, they read letters and photos for him. They probably had to have one person. Yeah, this their full time job was just looking at his interactions with other women. So I don't know. I mean, what's funny though is he'll talk to one and he calls her baby. I love you. Can't wait to get out. We're going to get married. And he talks to the next one. He's like, I love you. We're going to get married. You know, don't worry about that death penalty. That don't believe everything you see. Right. These fans were sending him money for his prison canteen and donating thousands to a GoFundMe that raised over $70,000 with one woman donating $24,000 alone. So she which you know was like her entire bank account, which is why it was such an odd number. What woman is looking at this man and donates $24,000 to first of all, can you get a GoFundMe if you're in prison or does that go to his? Sure. Well, he doesn't have attorney fees because he has a public defender. And I think he went through seven public defenders before he finally. Those GoFundMe accounts, but I know that they do have boards that overlook things and they kind of find some ethical issues. And so you're telling me this man has $70,000 in his canteen in prison. He can buy $70,000 worth of candy. I don't know. These women and other supporters also flooded the chambers of Lee County Circuit Judge Nicholas R. Thompson's courtroom, begging him to spare Wilson's life. One woman even pledged her undying devotion to the sociopathic killer. As someone who cares unconditionally for Wade, I have deeply reflected on the gravity of this situation and impact of your decision. The woman from Visalia, California wrote to the judge. Another woman, a mother of two, claimed that Wade is a different person when he's on medication. That's how they look. Everyone's a different person when you're on medication. Oh, he's just, you know, he's on medication. He's on drugs. It's not a big deal. I paid a million bucks if I went up to one he's wanting to try to hit on them. They'd be like, oh, get out of here. Creep. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're willing to date a murderer and you sent him 24 grand? Yes. And then I wanted to go on a date with you and you call me creep. Yeah, because he's tall. I predict he's tall and good looking. It always wins. If you look past his tattoos to his face structure, since being in prison and medicated, he is healthier. His face is fuller compared to his booking picture where his face is gaunt pale and he looks unhealthy. This is what someone wrote to the judge. So all these women are writing to the judge, like telling them all these things that he needs to notice about Wade, you know, like he's, when he's on drugs, it's no big deal. I says he's just a different person when he's on drugs. If you look at his face, you know, I can fix them, send them to me. Right. One, they interview one woman that claims to be, that claimed to be his fiance and she talks about how she went to court every single day and she believed him, she believed that he was innocent. She believes that he didn't have anything to do with it. And then she went to court day after day. And then by the end she hated him and realized that, you know, she was duped and that he was never leaving prison. And, and they also, what they did, this was interesting. The prosecutor talked about how they were just so sick of these women backing him up, that they wanted to find a way to get into court and to trial all the different recordings of him talking to all these different women. So they got it in because they wanted, cause all these women are showing up at court every day and they all think, you know, they're like, they think they're the one. Right. So they wanted, they wanted these women to see like not, I mean, the murderer, but they see him for who he is. Right. As far as relationships and talking to these women, I mean, he charms them all individually, so they all think they're special when they're sitting there. But they wanted to expose him. So I believe they had a psychologist on the stand and they played a lot of his, his conversations. You can see the women in the stands like, they're throwing a cat fight on their own. He's fine. Exactly. Exactly. So in June of 2024, a Lee County jury found Wilson guilty of two counts of first degree murder. The verdict followed weeks of testimony from law enforcement, forensic experts and witnesses in August of 2024. This is the sentencing a judge sentenced Wilson to two death sentences, one for each murder. Now it's interesting what the jury voted. So the jury voted nine to three to recommend death for the murder of Christine Melton and 10 to two for the murder of Ruiz. And if you remember, it's Lord is law only requires an eight to four vote. That was changed after the Parkland shooting because it was previously unanimous and then when the eight is now eight. So, um, so it was nine to three and 10 to two. But my question is who were the three people and who were the two and the three on the jury that did not vote. And are they the same people? Are those two people the same people that are in the three? I don't know. Cause I don't know if he had two different juries or if he had one jury that just had just made two different. I believe it's just one jury and then they each made a decision as far as. They were probably following the law and so much that they felt, well, okay, but in this murder, he didn't meet all the elements for death penalty, but on this one he did. So it might have been not an emotional thing, but more of a. No, I'm just going to guess it was women that voted against the death penalty. Oh yeah. Let's talk about that one swing vote. No, I'm just talking about who were the people that aren't voting for him for death. That's all. It was a jury of nine men, three women. Exactly. That's what I would say it was. Um, but again, we talked about this with the death penalty. We talked about this with Brian Coburger and when he took the plea deal and why the prosecution allowed him to have a plea deal because Idaho has the death penalty. And if someone, who deserves the death penalty more than someone like Brian Coburger. So in this case, Wade Wilson. So I'm saying in this case, the people that are voting know for him to get the death penalty, like in what circumstance. Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah. My question is in what circumstance would you say that someone deserve the death penalty? I mean, how big on the death penalty? I don't know. Maybe they're not big on it. Well, this is Florida. I'm back to Florida. Oh, we went to Idaho for Brian Coburger. Now I'm back in Florida. Florida, we're talking about Florida. Florida gave him the death penalty. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it was close. It was nine to three. I mean, I can't, in what circumstance should this guy not get the death penalty? People don't believe in the death penalty. That's true. It could be a religious thing and I understand that. Or it does have to be religious. I think it's just be like, I just don't think that's a good idea. Well, in a lot of circumstances, I for an eye, maybe you just kill him. You know, now you're killing like they were killing. I don't know. There's lots of reasons to disagree with it. I don't know. I just don't see how you sit through all that testimony and listen to this guy's show no remorse. He shows no. I agree. I mean, he's so he's so cocky in court. Did you watch any of his trial at all? He's just cocky. He has no remorse. He doesn't care. I mean, he's like I said, his defense team, they, they, they sit far away from him. There's like him and then there's a space and then his defense attorneys are over here and anytime he like, you know, he gives them a paper, he just like throws it down in front of them. I mean, there's no camaraderie there at all. Hey, there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. This Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Paramount Plus released a documentary titled Handsome Devil Charming Killer. This was on January 20th. So if you guys haven't watched it yet, I would say it's worth watching. I found it. It's three parts. It's three parts. There's witness statements, body cam footage from the day of the murders, footage from inside the prison and footage of the trial. The footage from inside the prison is so interesting to me because it just shows him constantly on the phone with all these different women all day long. Well, what else is he going to do? I know, but I don't, I didn't know you could talk on the phone that long. I don't know. Death row. Yeah, I don't know how it works. I mean, are you allowed just unlimited phone privileges? Like, can he just? Well, what if you get 15 minutes a day and he's just using those 15 minutes for these women and then now you see a compilation of. And it just looks like it's just all day. Yeah, it's like hours and hours. There's recorded phone calls between Wade and his father, Wade and his girlfriend, girlfriends and quotes, because there's a lot of girlfriends and his calls with many of his fans. And he always releases recordings and I don't understand where these recordings go. This is at the end of the documentary. He releases these recordings where he, he thanks all of his fans. He probably has a video call with someone. Everyone for their like undying support and like, you know, and I'm like, I'm thinking, does he have an Instagram account or something? He has a video call with one of his girlfriends and then she records it and then he just. And disseminates it somehow. Um, let's talk about Wade Wilson now. So Wilson is being held at the Union Correctional Institution in Raiford, Florida, the facility designated for the state's male death row population. You know what I was thinking? If you have everyone on death row all in the same place, what, like, what type of people work there? I mean, I would be scared to death to work somewhere where everyone's on death row. What do you mean? It's a correctional facility of correctional officers. I know, but it's specifically for death row. So to me, that's like the scariest people on the face of the planet are all in the same space. They're more locked up. It's more security. I don't know. It just seems. Well, don't worry. You're not applying for any jobs there right now. Anytime soon. Like other inmates sentenced to capital punishment, he has kept under highly restrictive conditions, spending most of his time isolated in a cell with limited freedom of movement and minimal outside interaction. He did have, this was another thing that was in the documentary. He had some fans in prison. There was another young, yeah, another young prisoner. Well, male, obviously. Who looked up to him and then got the same, like the tats on the side of his mouth. He wanted some girls too. He's like, how do I do it? So he tatted his face up to match like what Wade Wilson had done to his face, which by the way, I don't understand why he tatted his face in prison because that was, that was after he was arrested, that he started getting the facial tattoos. I mean, he found himself so good looking and so charming. I don't know why he was messing with his face, but anyway. So Wade had some fans in prison that were emulating him and getting like the same facial tattoos. So while Wilson has received a death sentence, there is no immediate execution date. Obviously he has to go through all the appeals process. You can't execute someone before all their appeals are exhausted. She's not to appeal. Well, if they choose not, if they waive their right to appeal. But his attorneys submitted multiple appeals to the Florida Supreme Court. This is in August of 2024. And at least one of those legal challenges entered active proceedings in early January of 2026. That was a recent, the most recent thing I read on him is that he does have an appeal that has gone through his fan base has since dwindled. New pictures. This is my, this is my favorite thing about this whole documentary, though. So his fan base is starting to dwindle because I believe these, well, first of all, these women, I mean, that were delusional. I thought they were going to marry him now know that he's sentenced to death. So they've dwindled, right? I think they're playing a funeral. The woman that gave him $24,000, she must feel really stupid, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe she's excited still. Maybe she moved on to the next. No, but I'm going to tell you my favorite thing about this entire documentary is that he had so much money in his canteen from all these fans that he was just eating candy all day. And they showed recent photos of what he looks like currently. He, his teeth are rotted and he's overweight. And I mean overweight, like bloated overweight and he's unrecognizable. He does not look. Oh, really? He doesn't look anything like what he used to. Say it for the tattoos. You wouldn't recognize them. No, not at all. Like the teeth and the face and he's bloated and it does not look like the same person at all. Maybe some of those women need to start sending him a GLP one. Yeah, he needs some, he needs some ozumbic. So the new pictures have surfaced of him and it appears as though his teeth are falling out and he's gained a significant amount of weight. Honestly, for a man like that with that type of ego, that's probably the worst punishment for him is that he's not attractive anymore. I still think he is. You think so? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He doesn't think murder is wrong. Yeah, but I'm, well, you're just saying he's delusional. So maybe he just thinks he's still attractive. Also, I hope he's disappointed in himself. Well, I just thought, no, I'm thinking this man is so, he's such a psychopath and he's such an egotistical monster that the fact that he's on death row doesn't bother him. He has no remorse. Yeah, so I would an extra few pounds bother him. That would, I'm saying he's so. No, that would bother you. No. That does not mean it would bother him. It would bother him. I'm saying this man has lived his life being like, I'm so handsome. I'm so charming. I can get women to do anything. And now his teeth are rotted and he's severely overweight and he's bloated and he doesn't look like his former self. I'm saying that's probably the worst punishment to him than death row. Is that he's now ugly. And his fans have all dwindled and Wade's wives are no longer. Always have some. Crazy woman that wants to marry him. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. All right. Thanks guys for listening to Legally Brunette. We appreciate it. We hope you enjoyed the episode on Wade Wilson. 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