Giggly Squad

Giggling about big decisions, boy kibble, and bed chem

47 min
Mar 27, 202623 days ago
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Summary

The hosts discuss their Netflix show announcement with Amy Poehler's production company, reflecting on their transformative comedy tour and decision to leave reality TV. They also cover relationship dynamics, social media addiction lawsuits, fitness culture trends, and humorous observations about supermarket shopping and generational differences.

Insights
  • Authenticity and vulnerability during creative struggle can lead to breakthrough opportunities when paired with strategic networking and mentorship
  • Female-led creative spaces benefit from established industry figures actively opening doors and providing mentorship to emerging talent
  • Relationship red flags often manifest through controlling behavior around fitness, diet, and appearance rather than explicit criticism
  • Cultural touchstones like 9/11 now serve as generational markers for Gen Z to categorize older demographics
  • Cult dynamics exploit gradual normalization—initial positive experiences build trust before exploitation occurs
Trends
Female podcasters and comedians dominating top 10 podcast rankings, shifting comedy from male-dominated to gender-balanced landscapeMentorship-driven success in entertainment where established female producers actively develop emerging female talentWellness culture (Pilates, yoga) becoming loaded signifiers of lifestyle and relationship dynamics rather than neutral fitness activitiesMen creating derivative content (boy kibble) in response to female-led cultural moments (girl dinner), indicating female trend-setting dominanceGen Z using historical events as demographic classification tools rather than shared cultural memoryScripted comedy shows emerging from podcast chemistry and live tour material as viable production pathwayCult recruitment tactics leveraging wellness and spirituality spaces (yoga, meditation) as entry pointsDecline of retail pharmacy as lifestyle shopping destination due to e-commerce and inventory consolidation
Topics
Netflix scripted comedy show development and productionReality TV exit strategy and career pivotsFemale mentorship in entertainment industryRelationship red flags and controlling behavior patternsSocial media addiction litigation and regulatory impactPilates culture and fitness as relationship control mechanismCult dynamics and psychological manipulation in wellness spacesGenerational identity markers and cultural touchstonesPodcast-to-television adaptation pathwayFemale-led comedy touring economicsRetail pharmacy decline and e-commerce disruptionGender dynamics in comedy and entertainmentAuthenticity in creative partnershipsMormon culture and relationship expectationsGen Z consumer behavior and algorithm exposure
Companies
Netflix
Platform acquiring the hosts' scripted comedy show developed with Amy Poehler's production company
Amy Poehler's production company
Production partner developing and pitching the hosts' scripted comedy show to networks
Bravo
Network that aired Summer House, the reality show the host exited to pursue scripted comedy
Amazon Prime Video
Streaming platform mentioned for Last One Laughing comedy series advertisement
Meta
Parent company of Instagram and Facebook, referenced regarding algorithm and social media addiction
Google
Defendant in lawsuit by Gen Z user claiming intentional social media addiction design
People
Amy Poehler
Mentor and production partner who discovered the podcast, provided creative direction, and championed the scripted show
Kay Cannon
Writer and director on the scripted comedy show, previously worked on Pitch Perfect, New Girl, and 30 Rock
Hannah
Co-host of Giggly Squad podcast and creative partner on Netflix scripted comedy show development
Quotes
"I just knew if I went back that this would never happen and I wanted this to happen way more than I wanted to like continue to be on reality television."
HostEarly episode
"She's already at the table and making room and seats for other women. Yeah like opening the door and I just I feel like that is like what Giggly squad is to like if we get somewhere it's because we also want to like make sure that the giglers can get there too"
HostMid-episode
"The second a man pisses me off or does something that's distrustful or does something that gives you the ick, like, or just you decide you don't like him anymore, I don't care how beautiful his dick is, how good chemistry we have in the bedroom. Suddenly you look disgusting to me."
Co-hostLate episode
"Do you remember 9-11? Like as if it was like... Yeah, never forget, babe. As if you said, did you watch girls when it came out?"
HostLate episode
"The gays and the girls are the best at branding. So like obviously they have to wait and see like what we're doing and then."
Co-hostFinal segment
Full Transcript
The wait is over. Last One Laughing is back. And it's even more brutal than last time. Share your biggest regrets. I don't regret this haircut. What did you ask for, the shaggy, slim Shady? Joining us this series we have... Romesh Ranganathan Diane Morgan David Mitchell Mel Gedroich Amy Gledhill Alan Carr Bemi Sola Ikky Mello Sam Campbell Maisie Adam and Bob Mortimer Anyone want a song? No! Last One Laughing, new series. Watch now. Only on Prime Video. Security program on spreadsheets. New regulations piling up. An audit dread. It's time for Vanta. Vanta automate security and compliance, brings evidence into one place and cuts audit prep by 82%. Less manual work, clearer visibility, faster deals, zero chaos. Call it compliance or call it calm appliance. Get it? Join the 15,000 companies using Vanta to prove trust. Get started at Vanta.com slash calm. Sup, Giglers? Carry it, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shirt. We can't be managed. I mean the day just got away from me. What's up my guest up Giglers? It's Frye. Sorry that was Millennial. That was... but it's okay. There was a woman standing behind me. It's crazy to call a woman Millennial like that's a girl. But she was saying totes and I was like, oh at least when I was Millennial's her. Totes. Like she was on the phone, she was like totes totes. I forgot about that. Then at the airport I see a lot of parenting which is very fun. Some people are like showing off their parenting, some people are like ignoring their kids. Every now and then someone yells something crazy and this kid ran in front of his mom. And she goes, someone's gonna steal you. Kid was like 17, no I'm just kidding. My mom used to do that too. Like do you want someone to take you and then you'll never see me again? And I was like ma'am no one wants your sticky kid. But anyway I'm in Ohio all weekend. Jealous. On Sunday I go to Salt Lake City, the scene of the crime, no pun intended. I know, we always seem to do that. We talk the most shit about something and then we're like, hey. No we were talking about the rodeo and someone messaged me and they're like the rodeo guys really won't find this funny. Like watch out if you see a guy in the airport with a cowboy hat. I don't think I'm coming across anyone in the rodeo anytime soon. And if I do, that's not me. Check my location because why am I there? I don't bother them and they don't bother me. Also they call each other partner? I digress. Anyway, how are you? I'm going to speak my truth and then you speak yours. My favorite thing to do. I thought you were about to say I forgot. You're going to forget talk. Obviously we announced our Netflix show. Which like let's just take a minute. Let's take a second because. Let's take a moment of silence. That was really good. That was really good. You realize let's give some like backstory because the giglers are like okay hello. No that's why I was like let's speak our truth. Let's speak our truth. Okay so here's my truth. Let me get subtle. There could be multiple truths. And multiple things could be true at one time. I think people forget like nuances and things can be happening simultaneously. So let's go back to summer 2025. I wrap up my last season of which will soon to be my last season of summer house unbeknownst to the people. Almost a little bit unbeknownst to me but I'm feeling it as the summer's wrapping up. And I leave that very last day of summer house and as I'm walking out the front door stepping down the steps. I have a moment where I'm like you're probably never coming back here. But I say nothing. It's literally Hannah Montana. Yeah. Walking out the door. It's probably the last time you're going to do this. And that was like my gut feeling. We go into September. We go into our insane 60 kick off our 60 city tour. Was it that many cities? I think maybe it was like 52. You can't count while you're doing it. But I feel like we've talked about the tour so much but we've never really been able to speak like exact facts about the tour because we couldn't say this. We couldn't say we were writing a show and we were going to pitch it and we were going to sell it and we were going to do all these things. So like months ago and even like a year ago I feel like I've said so many times like how transformative that tour was. But like now I feel like people really realize how transformative it actually was. And let me just set the scene for the giglars. I'm having panic attacks left and right. I'm like right. If there's a bridge nearby like Hannah's literally keeping me away from it. Like I am truly going through it. You were just like a body. I was moving through cities. I was like yeah I can't even explain. I was a shell of a person. Like I'm in the middle of just like totally changing my life and me and Hannah are with each other every single day. So obviously we're still being funny amidst the chaos. Yeah just because you're a shell of yourself doesn't mean you're not hilarious. I can't crack a joke. My darkest is when I'm actually my funniest. That's the only way to get through it. I think that's what it was. I was at my darkest and I was like I think I'm also at my funniest. When I'm happy I'm quiet. Right. I'm content. And you know it's bad for comedy being content. Correct. So we're with each other every single day and obviously we just start like doing bits. We're doing bits left and right. We can't stop cracking jokes. And so we finally get to a point where we're like Hannah's like I feel like I should write some of this down. So we write down an entire basically an entire show and we just like keep adding to it and we just like we're like that's really funny. This is really funny. Fast forward. We're doing our last couple shows and we're at Radio City and we're like wow this tour was I changed as a person. I changed as a woman. I changed as a friend. I changed as a daughter. Can I also say we do talk a lot of shit and we love gossip and we love riffing and being silly improv. But me and you have done a lot of Giggly Squad not physically in the same place. Yeah. Also during very different times of our lives like me off the show you on the show and we still manage to like keep the chemistry alive. So that tour when we were like together 24 seven we were making money moves like we were sitting together. I remember me you and Grace sitting at lunch before a show. Do you remember and I was like would it be crazy if like we did a scripted comedy show and I really had no idea what you were going to say. And you like without a pause no pause we're just like yeah yeah and I was like can we throw some ideas around and you're like yes. And so we just start like riffing we just start going. Which simultaneously we have no I nobody knows we're like creating this or like because at this point it's just like for the two of us like we don't know what we're going to do with it. We do our Radio City show and then I would say what like a month later Amy Polar reaches out. We found out that Amy Polar is a Giggler and like you know like you have general meetings with people sometimes. And she was like I love Giggly Squad. I love your guys as chemistry and I actually like couldn't that was like that was the craziest moment. She invites us to her office in LA was the first thing that we did. Yeah it was almost like a deja vu moment like it was almost like a moment where we were like no we're supposed to be here and this is the exact conversations we're supposed to be having. So this was like a full year ago that Amy was like. And let's also be clear Amy Polar is a genius. Yeah one of the greatest ever do it. Yeah and kindest and the creative broad city. Yeah which me and you love. No like there were times this is like how I can sum it up. I don't even know what industry we're in like whatever industry we're in currently like. I don't feel like I've had an experience the way I've had an experience like being on a zoom with Amy Polar where she's like such a freaking expert in her field. Like we would go through scenes and like be writing jokes for certain like monologues or whatever. And Amy would get on the zoom and be like change this this do this and that. And I would just sit there being like yeah why the fuck wouldn't we have thought of that in the first place. And I just think that's such a good example of like yeah you're an expert you just came in and in five minutes things that we've been working on for four months you just made better in literally a second. And the fact that she saw something in us I think gave us confidence to be like that she's just like be yourself. Like I don't want to turn you into anything else she's like I could work with this and I'm like oh my god what a compliment you could work with whatever. Our moms have been trying to figure out how to work with this for 34 years. And then going on her podcast was like a dream I was like yeah we don't have to do that but that was just a natural I think cuz she loves Giggly Squad so much. So this was the kind of thing you can't plan like it just kind of happened from us doing our thing and putting ourselves out there because we also could have been like no we're scared we don't want to do it. And here's the other thing like just because Amy's production company said like yeah we want to make a show with you like did not mean we were any further along like we still had to pitch to different networks. And at this point in time I now have to make a decision if I'm going to continue being on Summer House or if I'm going to say no. And take a chance because I knew that if we wrote this show and if Amy Puller's wanted to make Amy Puller's production company wanted to make it and we sold it to a network I knew I would not be able to do it. And so I was in a situation where I felt like I either had to take a chance and believe in myself or go back to like chaos that I knew like the comfortable chaos or like take a chance on my like self in the unknown. And I do have to say you went through a time where it was kind of like ripping off a bandaid because you were changing multiple parts of your life. And it was one of those well I got rid of that. It's like when you're cleaning and you're like fuck I'm throwing everything away. Reality TV is a risk every season because they make the character they want you to be. And they do say you stay long enough to see yourself the villain. It's the kind of thing where yeah if you were creatively involved in the show to make it funny and inspiring and stuff that's great but you're not. I just knew yeah I just knew if I went back that this would never happen and I wanted this to happen way more than I wanted to like continue to be on reality television. And so I made that decision pretty much I guess like in May of that year of last year. And so now we're like a full year and I mean obviously like couldn't be happy with my decision. But it is so funny how like Giggly swad we can just post stuff like today we're going to say what we think what we thought was funny today. Yeah we're like industry stuff takes forever and we still have so much work to do you guys like we have so much to do. It was just like the initial steps with it but we just want to feed the giglers with more incredible funny hilarious content and having Amy Poehler like loving the giglers is just it couldn't be cooler. I think it's also like such a good example of like obviously like being a feminist means like so many different things but it's also like something that I feel like I'm noticing for the first time being like 33 and being like older than some people. When we're in meetings or like whatever and I just think Amy Poehler is a really good example of she's already at the table and making room and seats for other women. Yeah like opening the door and I just I feel like that is like what Giggly squad is to like if we get somewhere it's because we also want to like make sure that the giglers can get there too like another girl in our position. Do you know what I mean. Well she's at the point in her career. Yeah we're cause she's created this production company where now she can put on people she's into and that's where I think we eventually want to get to in our careers is to be able to like show other people the way that we were able to. And I think that is like an example of success is being able to like open the door for other women who are younger than you but like are and we're in the same position you were in at some point. 100% especially like as a female stand up there's so many women in stand up who are like kind of struggling alone because the men don't want them there. Yeah. So then when I find that community or like bring these girls on the road they're like wait there's a stand up show where it's just like women like being themselves like in the locker room making fun of everything. So it's like really important that you don't leave a girl out to pasture. In these male in these male dominated spaces and I don't care if it's TV comedy has always been male dominated. Right. And even seeing like the top 10 podcasts like half of them are female podcasts and comedy right now. Yeah. And it just gives it gives me so much joy. It makes me so happy. No I mean the fact that we're writing a comedy a scripted comedy show like oh my God I thought like my Super Bowl commercial was like harnessing all my ex's energy but this is like really harnessing like every man that was like you're like kind of funny you're not like funnier than me though I'm like oh my God everyone hates when you talk like you know I just like feel like this is like my ultimate revenge. Truly. Oh my God. But I think we're going to learn so much from Amy like she's a mentor and we're just like going to take it in and just how she carries herself in every situation. I'm just going to copy her also like how she is on zooms like do you know how many times like I go on zooms and I'm like Amy Polar would just like get to the point. Like I really love her zoom etiquette. She's like hi let's get to it. I can't explain the feeling but when you're on a zoom with Amy Polar and you're pitching a TV show. Yeah whatever said I'm like yeah Amy Polar is on the call right like you're going to question this Amy respect Amy Polar. You're going to question what we're saying Amy Polar is here one time we were on a zoom with Amy Polar. We also you have to say Amy Polar. Yeah you can't just say Amy because we respect her we don't just say Ames. Right. It's Amy Polar one time we're on a zoom with Amy Polar and she was like doing her makeup and like getting ready to like go out and she just like fit in our zoom. And it was like I literally had a moment where I was like oh we're all just girls like at the end of the day we're just all girls. It's just my dream come true like all I'm thinking about is like my character's outfits. Well yeah that's what you're excited about and I'm I'm stressing I'm like we need a script we need the script page and she's like we're good we know what to do. Yeah I'm like my opening scene outfit is phenomenal. Also shout out to Kay Cannon who is writing directing also and she was behind Pitch Perfect. She also wrote on New Girl and 30 Rock so that's royalty right there. No so it's just like a bunch of girls getting together and like putting together a really funny fucking show. The wait is over last one laughing is back and it's even more brutal than last time. Share your biggest regrets. I don't regret this her cool. What did you ask for the shaggy Slim Shady. Joining us this series we have Romish Ranganathan, Diane Morgan, David Mitchell, Mel Gedroich, Amy Gledhill, Alan Carr, Bemi Zola, Iqumelo, Sam Campbell, Maisie Adam and Bob Mortimer. Anyone want to song? No. Last one laughing. New series watch now only on Prime Video. What's better than knowing that this tiny patch of turf is yours and nobody else's. Is it time to make your move? At Lloyds we are ready when you are. Britain's number one direct lender for first time buyers. Mortgages on Lloyds. Bank on Lloyds. Based on total value of lending July to December 2025 to verify cloidsbank.com slash bank on Lloyds. Security program on spreadsheets. New regulations piling up. An audit dread. It's time for Vanta. Vanta automate security and compliance brings evidence into one place and cuts audit prep by 82%. Less manual work, clearer visibility, faster deals, zero chaos. Call it compliance or call it calm plight. Get it? Join the 15,000 companies using Vanta to prove trust. Get started at Vanta.com slash calm. This is your business. This is your business. Supercharged with the help of ZERO Accounting Software. These are your numbers. These are your numbers.� I have two women of STEM, women in STEM of the week. I'm obsessed with this new segment. We've had through it first of all. It's not a new segment, you just made it up. And so far we've had three this week. So it's not real, but proceed. The power's gone to my head, I'm making up segments and I'm going, don't you guys love this segment? And they're like, this is the first time you've done it. So first of all, there's a girl on Instagram who figured out a new way to get the juice of lemon out. And I knew you'd like this because you're obsessed with. Doesn't it seem like when you cut a lemon open and then you're squeezing it, you're like, I feel like there's a lot of juice that's being left. It's all in my hand and this is just too graphic. All you have to do, take a knife or take a straw or take something pointy. You know the side of the lemon that has the bump? You poke that to the middle of it and then just squeeze and it comes out like juice. And it's so easy and comes out better. Wait, I literally am gonna do this when we get off the pod. Yeah, I just have to figure out what you poke into it, but I feel like anything that pokes it would work. And then I got on like a weird algorithm of these like oranges that people are obsessed with. Have you seen that? Sumo oranges. I think we're on a very different algorithm. It got weird over here. Yeah, that seems... But I just wanna say shout out Sumo oranges are having their moment. They're kind of the it girl right now. Like all the girls are obsessed with it. And they're like nozampic over here. Yeah, no, they're definitely like, how do I say this, body positive. And they look gorgeous and they love who they are and they're shameless about it. And they're on a full press tour right now on TikTok. So that's what I've been getting. And the second woman in STEM of the week, did you see the girl who sued, met it and Google? No. Some girl, this is like 20 years old or something, sued, met it and Google. Cause it claimed that they purposely made her addicted to social media. And she won the lawsuit and got $3 million. So that's when I say, first of all, love a woman. Wait. Making money. First of all, Jen Alpha is the Karen of all of us. And that girl's never been wrong in her life. But now I'm like, so where's the, what do they call it, subsidiary checks? Where's the rest of the checks for everyone? To me, that's giving like, I'm suing McDonald's because it made me fat because I ate McDonald's. Like, okay. Well, there maybe they can change something to stop purposely making the algorithm so you're addicted to it, but like, I think we're way past that. I think we're, yeah, that ship has 100% sailed. I guess it'll probably get appealed. But if that holds up, all of us should be getting $3 million in the mail soon. Was this in America? Yeah. I don't know how I feel about it. If you're not going to give it to everyone, you can't just give it to one girly pop. Yeah. Like I don't get how that got through. Cause it's like- I don't get how that got got, but suing Med-Hand Google is iconic to be like, I can't get off my phone and I can't stop looking at my ex's ex-girlfriend's cousin's page. Give me $3 million. But it is ruining the world. Being sued just in general is like, cunt-y. Like suing someone and being sued, it's just like cunt-y. Honestly, my assistant said the other day, cause she has to go in for a jury duty and she said that she really hopes she gets picked. And I'm like- Except that we have a job here to do. She literally would rather do jury duty than like answer your texts. And this is why she's my assistant. She's like, okay, but I could go one time and wear a really cute outfit. And I'm like, yes, but do not get picked. I'll die. Your assistant like wants to fire you. I'm obsessed with her. She's like, what if we did like no work tomorrow? And I'm like, honestly, genius. She's like, guess what? I canceled all the meetings. You know, you could do that. She's like, I just figured out I have free will and I canceled all our meetings today. The other day she was like, I'm just gonna cancel that. I'm like, no, I have to go. She's like, okay, but don't you feel like you're gonna be tired? I'm like, yeah, but I have to go to it. And she's like, oh, okay. Your assistant is a local Italian man who's like, we don't work from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. And then we're tired from early lunch all day. Daphne, like brand Daphne, not cat. We get like our, like our poplin stuff. We get like this, our 100% cotton from Italy. And so like we had to put an order in prior to Christmas. And so the guy that like we deal with in Italy, our order had to be in like, say it had to be in by like December 10th. We're like, okay, like we'll pick our stuff by December 10th. That stresses me out so much. I would have missed the deadline. He calls us in the beginning of December and he's like, actually you guys have to like decide by today because Christmas is longer in Italy this year. And we were like, that is the most Italian thing ever. Like, oh, it's longer just in Italy. Like what are you talking about? He goes, it's not a Christmas month, it's a Christmas year. He was like, it's actually four weeks this year. We're like, okay, Luigi, like you're pulling, like you're pulling our leg. No, which is crazy. Cause I went to Italy like once when I was little and I remember us trying to get lunch, but none of the lunch places were open cause they were eating lunch. And I was like, this is like, what kind of meta? They're like looking at you stupid, like you don't plan lunch. Pure mid-scream. They're like, I can't make you lunch if I have to eat lunch. And I'm like, well, someone's gonna be hungry and it's gonna be me. No, there's nothing I love more than like real Italian people in the country of Italy because it's just so different. It's so different. Lois and Bobby visited. I'm so obsessed with them. Lois is your daughter. When I tell you, I like under, I feel like I connect with her because I connect with you. Like I'm like, I know this breed of girl. Like I know how to play the game. She says Lois, she's walking on the street and she goes, like gasps. And I'm like, what is it? And there's a woman walking towards us who's like pretty with like a beautiful dress. Now I wouldn't have noticed this. I'm in my own thoughts fighting my own demons. I said, what is it Lois? And she goes, she's fancy. And I'm like, okay, I tried today, but I guess I'm disgusting. And she was like, I was like, tell her you like her dress. And it was so cute. She was like, I like her dress. And the woman smiled. And then I looked at her and I just was like, do you like my outfit? Cause I think like I'm a princess too. Like she thinks I'm a princess, right? And she just goes, no. Like why would you ask that? She was like, no try order. It's almost like you were insulting to that woman previously that had a great outfit. Like no. She literally was. And now I'll play like Vogue or like a dry grace thing. And whenever I play it, she just starts like fashion walking. So I'm creating a full monster. No, I love it. There's nothing I love more than being girly. Amazon is great when you need a quick specific thing. And she loves mermaid. She loves purple and she loves sparkles. And if you guys don't forget, I got her a purple mermaid thing without sparkles. And she was like, where the fuck are the sparkles? Without cursing, obviously. And I said, I'm so sorry, I'll do better next time. I got her a sparkly mermaid purple bathing suit. So you could have a daughter that's super girly. Like you get it. Oh, I love it. She opened it. She, and then she puts it on immediately even though it's like nighttime. And she's walking around the house with it. And then she goes, take a photo, send it to Paige. She's like, send it to someone who would really appreciate this. Send it to someone who cares. You know? To someone who has taste. Who would understand this moment. Someone who gets it. No, when I was in third grade, I got a dog for Christmas. And I opened the box and I said, mom, I love this fur coat. And she goes, that's a dog. That's a living, breathing poodle, not a black fur coat. I said, oh. So I'm not getting a fur coat? Yeah, I was like, so is the matching coat coming? Or Santa forgot that? Like, hello? And that I feel like truly sums up where my brain goes. She also went into my closet. And it was cute because I remember going to my Nana's closet and thinking it was so cool. She was going to my closet and she was loving it. And I was in my head thinking if she was in Paige's closet, she would be having so much more fun right now. Because I have a lot of t-shirts. I know that's why I feel like if I were to have a daughter at some point, I'm almost like, is God going to give me some type of lesson where it's like, just because she's not girly doesn't mean you can't connect with her. Our poor kids are going to have to hear these podcasts. One day have you been like, I hope it's not a- I hope she's cute. OK, I hope she's cute. And I hope she's got a mouth on her. OK, I hope she stands up for herself. Oh, she will. What else is going on? Are you watching any documentaries? Well, I was watching Twisted Yoga. By the way, this is very Giggly Squad. And we talked about this yesterday when we were FaceTiming. We love talking about something light and then randomly out of nowhere, just saying the darkest, most traumatizing thing you've ever heard. No, I was on the phone with Hannah and I was like, a Giggler just DM'd me and in such a Giggly Squad way. She's like, hey girl, I love you. Just broke up with my boyfriend of 13 years because he cheated on me with my best friend's sister. Whatever. So I moved out. I'm getting a cat. Do you have a litter box you could recommend? I'm like, what? No, it's literally me. Let me give you the backstory real quick. Not important. Do you have a link? You can send me. And I'm talking about little sparkly mermaid dresses. And then I'm like, so there is this twisted yoga documentary where, no, these girls were getting locked into rooms in Romania. It's so interesting, the cult mindset, because they've been doing these great yoga classes for two years. Nothing creepy's happened. So then when they're finally getting kidnapped and they have sunglasses on and a hat over their head and they take their phones away, they're like, oh, it's because the Romanian government doesn't like his teachings and they've been trying to get him and we can't let anyone know where he is. And then if one girl is like, he's awesome, you're like, OK, I'm the crazy one. Yeah. Well, yeah. I get that. I'm pretty sure I get that. So that was episode two of Twisted Yoga. Do you think that like, you know how like every couple of years there's like a workout fad that's like everybody's doing it, even if when you watch like the JFK Jr. and like Carolyn Baset show, there's like an episode and she's like doing a workout with her sister and it's like an old school workout. Like, do you think Pilates at some like there's going to be like documentaries about like what's going to happen to the classic Pilates girl in like five years? Good question. Is that going to be done? Pilates is like not as spiritual. True. It's a little more as yoga, but I do think like Pilates is giving like the fact that that guy on that show was like, I need a girl who does Pilates. Like it's becoming a loaded thing. Like it's like a hot girl. Remember Zumba? Nobody talks about Zumba. You know, who still does Zumba. My mom, every Tuesday, she has Zumba classes. After her knitting club where she talks shit. Wait, speaking of did you see Jesse when on call her daddy and was talking about her divorce and she was like, and we got to a moment where he said to me, I really want you to be more in your feminine and me in my masculine and I want you to do Pilates every single day on top of being the breadwinner, taking care of the children, doing everything. He doesn't work. Add that to the red flag list if a guy tells you to do Pilates. I dated a guy one time who was really crazy about what I ate. And let me tell you, I was in the best shape of my life, truly. But like I almost like think, I don't even know because I feel like I've dated guys who have said like weird things to me about like working out and eating. It's like a nickel. Where I'm just like, that's so weird and crazy. Well, there was a moment where I was trying to be a fitness model, a sports model. You guys remember when I did my Adidas campaign and it was just my calf. And I was dating a guy who was like obsessed with the gym and he would like cook for me. And it was always like really healthy. And my mom was like, hey, is he being controlling? And I'm like, I'm trying to be a fitness model. So like things made sense at that time. Looking back, I'm like, that wasn't sustainable. I was definitely like too fit. But I just want to say something just to give confidence to any girl. You guys know me, right? We know each other. I've never had a man I was with tell me that I was too masculine for him. Mind you, I am the butchiest straight girl in the world. I am literally lesbian passing. I've never had one man tell me I'm too masculine. I've actually had a man be very confused and say, hey, I was talking to all these pretty models and I looked at you and you were sitting man spreading and like talking really loudly, like passionately about something. And I'm like, why am I more attracted to her? And I was like, I don't know, babe. It's called, it's called Riz, okay? And no guy has ever told me anything about my body and my body's fluctuated. But guys who want to be with me, they like an ass. They like curves. Guys have actually said, don't get too skinny. It's less like feminine masculine and like your body's right or your body's wrong. It's how you carry it and being authentic to yourself and attracting, when you're authentic, you attract authentic people. And I think a lot of those Mormon housewives are so fucked with their religion and they're forced to be with these guys at such an early age before they know themselves. It's like, you guys aren't a good fit. You're not a good fit. The Mormon housewives' husbands are very like, manosphere in a different way. Also you could argue, babe, am I in my masculine energy or are you in your fucking feminine energy? That's what it is. I've never had someone be like, you're too masculine, but I have had men say, you're just like way too independent. Like you don't need me. I'm like, not only do I not need you, I don't want you. I think your opinion is dumb as fuck. I think you should want to see a doctor and get checked. I think you're not all there. Whenever someone stays in a bad relationship, people always go, oh, he must be good in bed. He must be good in bed. And maybe in the very beginning, you're like, oh, but we have this sexual chemistry, but I do have to say, the second a man pisses me off or does something that's distrustful or does something that gives you the ick, like, or just you decide you don't like him anymore, I don't care how beautiful his dick is, how good chemistry we have in the bedroom. Suddenly you look disgusting to me. You look like clowns. You look like a clown. Okay, like the guy, but also even like physically, if a guy looks perfect and then he opens his mouth and he's not funny and he's weird and insecure, you look like a clown. No, the way I can get so grossed out after I have the ick, like, like I could literally, you know me, I'll throw up at any time when I'm anxious. Like I'll literally throw up looking at a picture of you. You're such a cat. You have to watch, you guys, if you're like, need us to laugh, just Google on YouTube, cats gagging. It's the funniest shit ever. No, it's literally me. 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No, because what was it? I don't get it. OK. I'm very smart. And wait, I'm also kind of really confused because I'm 33 years old. You're 34. Yeah. I feel like we miss. I don't remember watching Hannah Montana. I had a very awkward moment because I was with some people and one of them was like, I don't know if I'm dead inside because I love Hannah Montana, but I watched the show and I loved Hannah Montana, but I watched the special and I wasn't crying hysterically. And my other friend was like, I was crying hysterically. It was amazing. And I was like, I am 34 and I missed that boat. Like I was even Stevens. I was Hillary Dove. But Hannah Montana, that was like Miss McGuire. Also, I was kind of annoyed with Hannah Montana because she was so fucking famous that every time I introduced myself, I say Hannah. And someone goes like Hannah Montana. And I'd be like, I was first. I was at the age where I watched one episode and I was like, but obviously that's her. And if you can't tell, that's her. So the plot is that she's like a pop star at night? The plot is that she's two different people. She's like Hannah Montana. And she just changes her hair slightly. Yeah. Her hair's just slightly, she's wearing a wig. And then she's not. I'm like, yeah, I'm past this age. Is it bangs, no bangs? If you watched the lunette in Molly, you didn't watch Hannah Montana. You aged out. Like I don't. But it was embarrassing. I go, guys, I'm way older than you. Like I did not watch Hannah Montana. And the girl goes, I'm 33. And I was like, I guess there was a... Unless they were, here's the only way I can think of it. Unless they were the older sibling. Oh, yeah, maybe it was a household thing. But I'm the older sibling. But like my brother wasn't watching it, obviously. But you're right. Some people with younger kids in the family. You were 34, you definitely aged out. Maybe 33, we were on the cusp, but I don't think... It is funny how one year can like change your entire... Entire perspective. Like cultural perspective of things. I had the craziest Gen Z interaction, which you guys know I love my Gen Z. He's the identifiers Gen Z. This girl comes, she says, hey, can I take a picture? And I said, of course I'm a Gen Z queen. Excuse me, can I talk to her for a second? Get in the car. She's like, can I get a picture really quick? And I said, you keep me young, of course. And she stands next to me, we take the photo, and she looks at me, swear to God, she said that she goes, do you remember 9-11? I gasped. I said, what? What? She goes, do you remember 9-11? Like as if it was like... Yeah, never forget, babe. As if you said, did you watch girls when it came out? Like that was how she said it. She watched the live premiere of girls when it came out. Yeah, like do you remember Destiny's trial when they were still together? That's how she like said it. And what'd you say? I said, yeah, babe, I was there, I could smell it, which obviously was too far. Wait, that's too far, Hannah. Honestly? That's really... Yeah, I remember 9-11, it traumatized everyone around me. And she was like, I was born that year, and I was like a trap. But I think it's like a thing where Gen Zs are like deciphering people by being like, who remembers 9-11 versus who doesn't. Like that's like a new categorization of people. Yeah, I feel like as a millennial, it's like we have too many things, like we have something that happens once a year, once every six months. What are we talking about? I think, no, I literally can't keep up. Everything comes across my desk. Anyhow. Anyhow, you really made me laugh yesterday when you, I don't know where this came from, when you just mentioned split-wise. Okay, so in me and Hannah, we're on Summer House. Like, we pay for a lot more things, I feel like that people would have ever realized. Okay, back then, that show was scrappy. Like if your shit didn't come from Amazon in time, you didn't have an album for the party. Yeah, like you were done. So like we paid for a lot of things like together, and so we had this app called Split-Wise. And like- I feel like it was so popular, like my roommates use split-wise, and it was so fucking annoying, you'd always get a split-wise bill, and you'd be like, what the fuck? And so like at the end of the weekend, you'd get hit with a bill, and it was like how much of your portion you owed. So like I can remember when it fell off, like I feel like we like stopped using it like in one summer or whatever. Cause I was like, what is this app? I'm not downloading this app. It's gonna give me a virus, I'm not downloading this. People would go off and like buy a bunch of groceries, and then next thing you know, you get hit with a huge split-wise, and I was like, okay, if I'm gonna pay, can I have some say in how many champagne bottles you guys get? Or like I'm not drinking the champagne. Maybe throw a Cheez-It on the list next time. One carb, maybe one carb for me. The majority of your 20s is like divvying up checks. Yeah, and then like getting random like $2.30 Venmo's from people. And honestly, thinking back on that, like I remember being in group chats, being like, can you believe she hit me with a Venmo for $2.47, and now I'm like, oh, what simpler times? The drama was a lot. Also back then we'd like randomly have cash on us. I'd be like, I have a 10. I still like, I always have cash on me. Well, you're Italian. That's very Italian of you. What is something happening? Do you wanna know really what it is? Sometimes randomly, even though now like you can use your card, but like being out in New York City and like living there for as many years as I've lived there, I'm always down to get a street hot dog. I'm always down to get a pretzel. Like if there's an ice cream truck coming by, yeah, that's an experience, I'm getting it. So like, and also being in New York, sometimes like you can only stop it. Like if you need a water, you're like, you're gonna die. Like that is why I always have cash. Dollar pizza, hello? Like a bodega, there was also a time where they charged like four extra dollars if you use your credit card. And I was like, I actually can't do this. It's against my religion. Literally. I do have like moments of like after a night out, it's like two AM, you smell the halal guy, you go over and he's trying to, he's like $9. And I'm like, I know it's seven, I'm a local, I know it's seven. Or even on like a Sunday morning, like checking my bag being like I have $4, let's go get pizza. Or literally you'd be like whoever the guy is, you'd be like, Adam, you know me, I come here every weekend, I only have $3, they'll give you the rest later. I've never once hooked up with an Adam or like talk to one, I feel like. It's like not a name that comes across my desk. Is the middle name of someone in my family, it's kind of cute, Adam. I never get DMs, my DMs are really ramping up with baby names. I've named half of whatever that generation is about to be. What? I actually, if you wanna know if your baby name is popular, you should ask me because I'm seeing, I see a lot of them. Cause yeah, you have to make sure the Giglers aren't calling their kids all the same names. We need like a range for the next generation of Giglers. There's an uptick in Cecilia's and like just Celia's. Just to let you guys know. Oh, just Celia. Just Celia. Do worry about, it's going, going, gone. Yeah, it's going. I worry about the C's and the S's and the complications of that as a child. However, beautiful, I mean, Sicily. Gorgeous. That's a fun name. I wanna ask you about your supermarket, speaking of sweat-wise, supermarket etiquette. I like don't know this about you. Are you a cart girl? Are you, I'm just gonna grab a couple things. Are you a, put a, what's it called over your shoulder? A basket? A basket. I'm never a basket. Oh, you don't like that aesthetic. I've never basketed once. I love a basket. I can't commit to a cart. It's too heavy. If you're gonna do a basket, just do a cart. Well, I think what I do is I start with a basket and then I realize I need a cart and I do that every time. Cause I don't learn. See, I start with, I'm just gonna grab one thing. Yeah. And I'm gonna hold it. Yeah. Hannah, there's so much I can do with my fingers. You have no idea. That's, that's woman in style. I can carry so many things. Do you know what's crazy? Walgreens, Dwayne Reed, CVS. If they had carts, shit would be crazy. Like I feel like they're almost like for people's wellbeing, we can't get carts in these places. I actually have a gripe with like convenience stores. Now listen, we live in the land of bodegas, but bodegas are like very different than like a, than like a CVS or a Dwayne Reed. I don't know if it's because of Amazon or like everything's happening online. Do you know that you cannot walk into a CVS these days and like get a birthday card or like, like you can, but the, you remember like you used to walk in as a child and it'd be the whole row and it'd be like birthday for him, birthday for her, birthday for someone you don't know that well. Like Holy Communion, Bat Mitzvah. You can't really walk in and get like a birthday bag, tissue paper and a birthday card and it's infuriating to me. I think you fully nailed it. Or if it's something like Christmas comes around and people are buying like bags, they're all sold out. Like I get all of my Christmas paper and I'm like very proud of myself because it's something I really love looking for is Christmas paper. I get all my Christmas paper on Etsy. Yes, small business stuff. I got cute little tennis racket ones from a company. But like CVS truly in high school and college, like if you couldn't find me, my mom would call me and be like, you're at CVS, aren't you? Like I was always in there. Cause you love the makeup. No, I just love a CVS. I'm like, yeah, let me try this trinket. Like this is a new color. I haven't seen this. Like I just love that type of shop. Like I don't even know what that kind of shopping is. It's called stuff you don't need, which is and stuff you do need. I'm like, well, I don't have a car nail file. And like, what if something happens and I need a nail file in the car? Like nothing brought me more joy than like my first car and like truly packing it with things that I'm like, this is adorable. Like this is going to go in there. I actually remember when I was younger, for some reason at one point, me and my friend go into like at CVS and she was like, my dad gave me his credit card. We can get whatever we want. I lost my fucking mind. I was like, we're rich. Like, and I was like, we're getting Reese's pieces. We're getting this magazine. Like I was like, this is, life doesn't get better than this than being to pick anything from CVS. Everyone has that one friend in high school where they're like, whatever, I have my dad's card. And it's just like now, like now that you're in your 30s, you're just like, so interesting. Where are those men? They're like, where are those men? Do you know one man has ever given me his card? Like I feel like that is diabolical. More men need to be showing me their cards. Okay, I'm sick of it. I've had what seven boyfriends in my life. I don't have one card. I didn't have one card in my possession. Also, you look so good with someone else's card. Wait, one time I had my boyfriend's guy that I dated. I had his card for some reason. I had to get something for him, whatever. We had gotten into a fight earlier that day. You bought a Lamborghini. I went to lunch with my girlfriend. I spent $250. I said, whatever, I'm putting it on the card. It was inside of sacks. The restaurant wasn't bagged inside of sacks. I went and I put it on his card. Okay, I thought like I'm being naughty, whatever. You gave me your card to pick something up for you. The least you could do is pick up my lunch. Yeah. Livid. He was livid. He was like, I can't believe you would use my card unauthorized. I was like, it wasn't unauthorized. You gave me your card to get you something and then I picked up a little something extra. You got it got hungry. Also, that's the payment for doing that, right? It's also like, this is the America you created. Like give me your card. That reminds me of me. The naughty as I ever was was using one of my ex-boyfriend's dad's cable passwords to get like optimum or I don't know what I did, but it was like 10 years and I also gave it to a lot of other women. So I actually think I was like the Peter Pan or it was like a Hulu account or something. I don't know, but I like saw people would post be like, does anyone have a Hulu password? And I'm like, I do. Back in the days where they didn't like track it to your home. Yeah, yeah. I'm the reason all those places had to be like, you're tracking. Yeah, Netflix changed all the rules. Well, that's like our line wire side. We're like, we got to figure this out. Yeah, like I'll hack it. No, I do miss going to the supermarket with your mom. And you're just like, can we get this? And she's like, no. That's really sad because you dread that when it's happening. You're like, oh, the last thing I want to do is walk into the fucking grocery store. You have to carry everything. And now what I would give to like being the passenger seat in my school uniform, my mom being like, we're just going to stop quick. Like, simpler time. And you're like, are you going to make that sucky salmon dish again, Kim? Step it up. I can't eat this crap anymore. Now in my adult life, I'm like, I wish you could just come and make salmon for me. I have something else that's going to piss you off. So I saved it for the end. Great. The men are at it again. So they were like upset that we did girl dinner and it had such good PR. And they're starting this thing called boy kibble. I know. Let us have one. What the fuck does that mean? So it's basically boys being like, this is like girl dinner, but healthier and manly. So it's them just taking like ground beef or ground turkey and like putting some rice in it and putting some vegetables in it and just like basically making themselves dog food. And they're calling it man boy kibble. Are they cooking it? Yeah. They don't have an original thought ever. Like they literally, everything is like piggybacked off of us. Well, look, the gays and the girls are the best at branding. So like obviously they have to wait and see like what we're doing and then. The gays really are the best at branding. Like there's so many things that have come from like the gay community that then trickle into like the girls. And then we start saying it and then the men's like know what it is. I mean, I'm watching RuPaul's Drag Race. So many things have been invented for them. They were saying sickening in 2014. They started Sly. You know how they were like, what did women invent like nothing? I couldn't tell you one thing. Like you said right now, name one thing a man invented war. And what a great note to leave off on. Thank you guys so much for giggling with us. We love you so, so, so much. And you guys are the bestest and have an amazing, wonderful weekend. That was so inspirational. Good night. Sounds like a lawnmower, doesn't it? But it's actually the sound of someone's dream coming true. What's better than knowing that this tiny patch of turf is yours and nobody else's? Is it time to make your move? At Lloyd's, we're ready when you are. 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