Ravens ’S.B.o.B’, Geno Smith traded to Jets, Ken Rosenthal joins, Top 10 Free Agency Edition

Stokes won the other way. Back towards the wall. There it goes. Aaron Judd strikes first for T.E. USA. Live from New York. It's a show that was rooting for Aaron Judd's last night as a Red Sox fan. It was just wonderful. I loved it. He'll spot for you. That is that's nice though. You get the roof for him for T.E. USA. That's right. I was there. Aaron Judd's in the back. I was there. I was there. I was there. I was there. I was there. I was there. It was Aaron Judd's at the home run. Roman Anthony hits the home run. I was also rooting for Jaren Durran, who are in the judge. It was just, it's very, it was really cool. You would have a problem with that. I feel like you've gone maybe a little soft as a Boston sports fan. There's supposed to be some hatred. There's a route for T.E. USA, but you want judge to strike out. Wow. Wow, how does that work? Then I've been framed the country. Well, it's Red Sox Nation, am I wrong? That's true, too. I actually love the Yankees though. It's really cool. It's a flaw in my way. It's a big flop. In fact, it means you're not a red socks. Right. I mean, we can't love the Yankees. That's a red socks, man. Really like it. Never heard, there's a thin line between love and hate. That's me. I'm thin looking for you. First hour, first things first. You just said it. Today, Brew updates his S-Bob rankings. Is this official? This is official. Pen pencil, OK? Excellent. Excellent. It's some good choices out there. Excellent. I'll be interested to see if you got a chance. Meanwhile, Team USA is undefeated. They play Italy tonight. Any chance we get upset in the very interesting comments from the Mexico team manager who wants USA in a major way, wants a rematch. Almost guaranteed. Remember, they beat us last time. Very confident. In scuba. You worried? I really like it. I don't know how to feel about it. Making a lot of noises. I don't know how to feel about school bulls saying, I'm not leaving Laxam. And finally, Danny's winners and duds from free agency. Yeah. In a tough spot editorially. Thank you. The duds list. You wanted to do the duds list. Dusty's always trying to push studs and duds. And we're like, I don't know dust. Can't do winners and losers. That's the thing. I'm on the losers list. It feels like a shot. That's the trick. Kevin Wilde's D.A. Park is in for Nick, who's in Japan. Because they want me to do a duds list later in the week when Brew is out. That's a different meaning. Oh, but they don't want me to dress. They don't want me to do losers today. So duds. A lot of duds this week with me, which looks hot in sections. We're starting with the ramps. Defense fell apart after Thanksgiving, and they're putting it back together in free agency after signing. Tremick Duffy, they added another former chief, Jail Watson to the squad. They have the best Super Bowl odds all by themselves. Slightly ahead of the Seahawks who are tied with the Ravens courtesy of the Crossbeard Edition Group. Bill's chiefs Packers, who just lost Romeo Dutton. I think it's pretty big loss. Really? Out of the Patriots. OK. 49ers who got Mike Evans, the Eagles, who I read have spent $1 million in free agency, which is a lot in the real world enough. Well, look, last year they had arguably the most talented squad. So they could afford to lose $1 million. It feels a little light. Oh, no. How we rose, we'll strike. Waiting for it, charges in the lions. Are the Rams the most Super Bowl or bus team in the league, Danny? No. Your Ravens are. They're the most Super Bowl or bus team. You can't be the most Super Bowl or bus team if you've already won a Super Bowl. That's a fair rationale. Like, I don't know the... It's something to consider. Like, I don't know the first things first bylaws and what it says in the fine prints. Really up to bro. OK, perfect. So I didn't have time to check. But if the coach and the quarterback depend, have a Super Bowl, you can be S-Bob, but you can't be the most S-Bob. I would say your Ravens who have... They just lost the time yesterday. I'm told. Exactly. But they would say that they got better. You would say that they got better. You have a quarterback who's won three playoff games and we don't know if he can actually live up to his first ball, Hall of Fame, MVP, Calvert Allen. Yes. In the play, like, we don't know. So he's a lot of pressure on him. First time head coach. I really like the head coach, but there's a lot of wind to Super Bowl. Yeah, apparently. There's a lot of questions around him. You got worse on offense. And I think most notably, you gave up the Ravens biggest advantage over the rest of the league, is that they are arguably the best drafting team in football. They are in that conversation as the best drafting team in the league. And you traded multiple first round picks for a 29-year-old edge rusher. So you have made a win now trade with a first time head coach and a quarterback who doesn't win in the playoffs. Or play what in the playoffs? So yeah, as a Justin Herbert guy, slow down on Lamar not being able to win a win. No, no, no, no, no. What was that? Please, little hoes compared to Herbert in the playoffs. All right. Again, I don't know why. Am I wrong? I don't know how Justin Herbert and his zero league MVP's and not Hall of Fame locks that in. He's been put into the Lamar and Jackson category of expectation and pressure. But listen, the Rams are all in. And they're a S-Bob because they have a 38-year-old quarterback who's year to year. But other than that, I don't think that I think there are plenty of teams that are more desperate to win Super Bowl, including the Ravens. I know you have an S-Bob list. Can I just dish the Rams for a second before you go? Sure. 13th hardest schedule. Which is middle of the pack. Middle of the pack, but I like saying 13th hardest. Like, wow, okay. 12 harder. I think he's easiest. Here are their opponents. So I think it's actually harder because anytime you have the chiefs on your schedule, the strength of schedule is based on the six win chiefs, not what we really think the chiefs are going to be. So here's what I don't like about the Rams. I don't look at the road games are always tough for the Rams when they're flying around. They lost at Atlanta. They lost at Carolina, even in the playoff games in Carolina. They had a rough time. So oddly the fact that they were able to give the Seahawks everything they wanted, they will lose to the Falcons. Chiefs, chargers and bills is very tough. So the home games, I like to look at a home schedule, a home slate and say and just mark off some W's. Maybe that's because it's the Jets and the Dolphins that we're always playing. But when are you exhaling at home? Seahawks, no. 49ers, no. Cardinals, yes. Cowboys, maybe. Giants with Harbaugh. I'm not saying that's an easy win. Packers, chiefs, chargers, bills. I might be selling my Rams stock, which I didn't own to begin with, but I don't love it. I mean, it's a tough schedule. But the Rams, look, they were close to the Super Bowl last year. And they've been good every time, you know, staffers healthy. So I'll give the official Esbob list. Excellent. How many are there? Five. I could see there being a bigger squad. Well, there's more Esbob teams, but I got a top five. Oh, the top five. You know, I like doing the top five. Perfect. Now, I'm going to start off by saying something I may have never said on this show. Certainly not a lot. Dandy's right. Whoa. Don't think I'm ever going to think that's the first time I've ever said that. I was leaving it in. What's your favorite shirt? Yes. The Ravens are the most Esbob team period. For all the reasons you said, look. And you didn't even mention this. They're about to give Lamar Jackson. I would assume the biggest contract is the history of professional football. All right. Like you said, they gave up the two first round picks, which I mean, I'm in. I'm fine with that. But still, you gave them up for Max Crosby, who is 29 coming off in the injury. And so, and then Lamar, look, two MVP's is the only multiple time MVP winner who has not won a championship in NFL history. Every year he goes without winning the Super Bowl, ratchets up the pressure more and more. Now, I do think, even though others have said, and Lamar has actually pushed back, people have said, no excuses. And this is the year and everything. I do feel like, now again, they're number one on my list. But in some quarters, and maybe even to Lamar, having a new coach who's a brand new coach, like first year coach period, and then your offensive line being, has to be revamped after losing Linderbaum. Maybe that in his mind takes a little pressure off, because it's rare that you expect a first year coach in his first coaching job ever as far as head coaching to win a Super Bowl. But they still are number one S-Vib. I agree with you on that. Which brings us to number two. I doubt I get any pushback on this, the bills. Very fair. I'm not shouting. Same exact, same draft classes, Lamar Jackson, hasn't MVP. Same thing. Gotta win the Super Bowl. All right. And this year, with my homes and the chiefs out, you felt like he really had a great shot. He obviously felt like he had a great shot. And they blew it. And the bills, the fact that they hired the head coach, Joe Brady, from within, to me tells me they expect us. We're picking up where we left off and taking it to another level. So they got to win it. Number three, you might disagree with this, Danny. I got the Rams at three. Because of what you say, I get that you're right. The fact that they won the Super Bowl, McVay, that monkeys off his shoulders, off staffers' shoulders. But they're clearly playing for now. Like there's no tomorrow as far as they're concerned, the whole after picks and all that stuff. They are about winning. Now we've seen from the moves they've made, recently, Trent McDuffey and so on and so forth. They're all about winning. And this could be staffers last year for all we know. Or you could get even if he got hurt or something like that. So they're all in. At number four, this one might be controversial. San Francisco. And here's why. Again, they're all in. You go out and get a, you give a $60 million contract to a 33, he'll be 33 in August, Mike Evans. 33 year old receiver. All right, George Kiddell, Christian McAfry, Nick Bolsa, friend, they're not getting any younger. I don't know what they'll do with Trent Williams, but they are not. You know, Espon. You should sign Trent Williams for one year deal. I would, but it seems like he won so much money. They're gonna have to really figure that out. But here's the other thing. Kyle Shanahan, I know he's the boy wonder. But when you go in the Super Bowl, he looks good in there. Right. And getting there and having some questionable calls that late in those games when he's gotten there, even in Atlanta when he was OC. So I just think the age of the team around pretty, obviously pretty as young. And then Kyle Shanahan, you know, he's not on a hot seat if he doesn't win it. But at some point, he's gonna win it. Yeah. All right, so I got them for this one. I could see. This one. There's one. I got three teams that came down to number five. Philadelphia, Green Bay, and Detroit. Oh. And I went with Philadelphia. And again, obviously I have a Super Bowl, but here's why. It seems like Nick Serioni has to win the Super Bowl to keep his job. That's what it feels like. There's always a lot of noise in that organization, AJ Brown, he might be back, you know, for all we know. But their seat, Serioni seems to be on a hot seat. And I think because the bar there is so high. Like this year, okay, you won the Super Bowl two years ago. This year you made the playoffs. And everybody's acting like the sky is falling there. The bar is so high, which I guess now, having made three Super Bowls in nine years, you won two of them. Now they feel like we gotta win the Super Bowl for you. Now, I made this list before, you know, some of the losses. They have lost some players, but I think those guys are replaceable, even Jaylen Phillips. I hate them. What's going on with the Cowboys, the original SBob? Well, they have been, they're historically SBob. Because they're America's team. It's like another cat. They're America, they're like the Nick, there's the Nick's, they're, no, there's not the Nick's, but there's the Lakers, there's the Cowboys, and they're the Yankees. Those are like the three national, national teams. And so every year, no matter how good they are, it's kind of, that's what they're like. They're like Grant of the Nick's. I thought the Nick's was good. Like, yeah, they should win it, but they won't. But they're not like a great franchise. I hate to say it. They're an expensive one. You want to move to basically a quick final thought. The only thing is I would have the Lions significantly higher on the list. I probably would have put them at third. Here's my, the franchise's history. Here's why, well, here's why I didn't put the Lions in. Because, and why I put Cereani above them, Campbell has job security. Yeah, like, no matter, you know, I get it. It's a younger core of players, no question, but no super one franchise. Same thing for the Packers. But you got Super Bowls. Like it? Jameer Gibbs is just a stud. I don't know that that's going to be a big role for him. I like it. You would check out. I mean, he'll be, but Gibbs is going to be the full time. Of course, by the way. They don't help a little, yeah. I don't like it. I think Pacheco still has a little bit of something. I agree with you. I don't think it's just all up. But Cereani is not good anymore. I'm like, I think the Chiefs were a lot of rocks. I think that was a good sign for no. And who? OK, head to Houston. Where Team USA remained perfect. Paul Schien's dominant Aaron Judge and Roman Anthony, both hit home runs in the third to make it five, nothing. Game ended, five, three. USA has been rolling. But Mexico manager Benji Gill wants one more shot at Team USA take-alism. I hope we play the US again. That would be awesome. I would be ecstatic to face them again. For one, it's probably the championship, right? It's championship in Miami. In fact, you know what? I want to face them more than I want anything else in the world. How's that? Unless, I don't know what the louder he is at right now. But if the lottery is somewhere around 800 million, then yeah, I'll win the lottery and cheer everybody from far. But outside of that, I desire that more than anything in the world to face them again in Miami. I think that we'll end up one in one against the US. All right, Brea, a reaction to that sound by what you've taken away from Team USA. I'm here for it. I like what he said. Because even though we've only won one out of the five World Baseball Classics, we're still the big boys. The major leagues are in the United States. And so we're still the evil empire, if you will. And he feels like, with good reason. I mean, our team is stacked. We obviously beat him yesterday, but they did after the time run one base, wasn't the eighth inning. And so they feel like we can beat them. And they have beaten us in the past. So I think he's just like, we know we can beat them. They've got not only are they the USA, where Major League baseball is, but they got a stacked line up that if we beat Judge and Harper and Shorber and so on and so forth, that just makes us look that much better. So I love what he's saying. Look, I do think as much as you can say in baseball, which we know is a fickle sport, I do think now Team USA should roll to the final. They don't have to play as AJ Przenyski told us just that. They don't have to play Japan or the Dominican Republic until they would get to that championship game because of the brackets. So I thought Mexico going in was probably going to be our toughest game. We'll see if that plays out. But yeah, I think now we should roll right into the finals. I love his calculus there. Well, other than what's the lottery at? Yeah, if it's 800. If it's 800 million, like 300 million, he's just interested in the world. It's more classic, but 800 million. So I like that internal calculus. I covered baseball for forever. Covered the Royals, a couple world series teams, Cubs, playoff teams, White Sox, playoff teams. And when you're doing radio every day in a baseball market, one of the things you would just say is like, well, it's baseball. Right. Anything can happen. You do 162 games, and then it comes down to, you know, best of one, the best of five, the best of seven. It's baseball, anything can happen. So sure, it's baseball, anything can happen. But this lineup is so overwhelming. It you watch, and it's just, it's an overwhelmed stop. It's nonstop. And so can they lose, of course, is anyone in their right mind going to pick them to lose? I don't see how you could. So I'm going to show it. Can we show the pitching dust? Team USA pitching, our ERA, we're giving up three runs a game. That's his total hits. Six home runs here in Dorena too. Opponent batting average is at 168. Here's the thing. Scoobles out. He gave you one game, and he says, I'm going back. Skien's is going to go one more. It's not like it's the hitting depth is not on par with the pitching depth. Partly by design, and everyone's dealing with that. That's right. But if you have a journeyman guy who gets hot and wants to go longer or throw more intense when we have our guys kind of, it's a half measure for us by design. No, well, I agree with you. And our pitching, I think, is one of our big advantages. Even our lineup is stack. DR's lineup is stack two, and then obviously Japan is good. But our pitching might separate us. But to your point, if we're not able to go with our best guys all the time, then it could change. I wonder if, again, we talked with AJ yesterday, we've gotten more into the world baseball classic as the years have gone on, and we haven't won it a lot. I wonder if going forward, I mean, obviously, teams don't want their players getting hurt. But if we don't win this with this stacked offensive lineup, will we let the pitchers look? We're really trying to win the WBC. Yeah. Just like Team USA and basketball. Yeah, but we're not putting minute restrictions on them. No, but the schoolable issue is he, it's almost Detroit's fault that if Detroit gave him his massive deal and he was locked up for $300 million, maybe he'd give us another game. But he, even the other days, I'm going to talk to the Tigers and I'm going to talk to my agent, like, no, dude, you can't go again. I'm going to talk to the Army and risk, I understand it. Yeah, but it's also stinks. It might be a calendar problem. Like, these baseball teams are giving guys 9, 5,000 deals right before the start of the regular season. They're like, we want you to win it too, but we just can't risk it. So I don't know that you solve that problem. If you've got the money, like, a player would be cool if the team was not going to be cool with it. But the money is guaranteed, so I'm going to do it. You still, and you have that issue in the other sports. Like basketball, I mean, a player could get hurt. Yeah. Like you said, if they have locked up the con, but it's not right before the finals. No, but if I agree, yeah, we're before the season. It kind of is before the season. It's in the summer. Paul Skins will be there. He's going to get plenty of starts. I agree. And Pirates, I hate to break it to you. As a pirate guy. This is the highlight. All right, head to OKC, game tied at 126. SJ Step Back 3 wins. It goes for 35.9. 15 assists, bro. Also tied, wilt. Awesome. With 126 games consecutive with at least 20 points. Here's Joker on SJ in that record. And then SJ on the winning shot. Take a listen. I don't know the people know how hard it's to do that, to play 20-point game in 10 games, not 120 whatever. It's special, and he's a special player. And it's a pleasure to play with the battle against him. I have answers to the test, but I got to see the questions first. So once I see, once I see he was on my left, and I was going right, I think it was Christian Brown. I was in the gap. So I knew I probably was like, if I drove to shoot a midi, it's probably going to be a contestant with two guys. So I tried to separate from the three and get a good, comfortable shot. And it went down. What was your number one takeaway from this game, bro? First, let me shout out SJ. I think he's telling me, not so fast. You said Wimby's the best player in the world, not so fast. Great game by SJ, the two threes on the last two possessions phenomenal. And I want to congratulate him. I think about this. Michael Jordan did not do this. What is the 20 straight, you know, 126 games, 20 straight points. LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, none of them did this. This is incredible what he's done. And Greg, Jenny and I were talking before the show. And we were saying like, and I've said this before on this show, if SGA's game was more spectacular, like everything else was the same, but he was a high flyer, like John Morant's type, you know, as far as the excitement quotient. We would be talking about him, I think, in his story term. We should be talking about, I know. And what we came to, because usually the face of the league, which he would be if he was more spectacular, and the guy that's regarded as the best player in the league, is generally has something unique about them as far as the way they play the excitement level or the size, yoke at your seven foot or what shack was huge. He is like a perimeter version of Tim Duncan, whereas, and he's a little more exciting than Duncan, but you know what I mean? He's not going to necessarily capture our imagination. All he's going to do is go out there and play fundamentally sound, excellent basketball, and when we'll see more championships. So he's fantastic, but go ahead, because I don't want to step on your toes if you're going to say something. No, listen, SGA can get anywhere he wants on the court at any given time. He's a remarkable player. Can I borrow the bonus take? Oh, yeah, because this was the game of the year. Yeah, that was everything you could possibly want out of regular season basketball. It was captivating theater start to finish. So I have two bonus graphics and then I'll get to my biggest take. Oh, three. Wow, that's a lot. You're going to take mine. I have to take a triple take. A triple take if you will. You might want to save a spot for SGA to top your MVP ballot. That game last night was you think that ended it? I don't know that it ended it, but if you hit that 65 game threshold, we will talk about that game when we're talking about him winning another MVP. He did something last night only with bronze done. 35 points, 15 assists, zero turnovers in a game. Like the will thing is obviously an incredible all-time accomplishment, but that performance, it's like if it's you and LeBron, we should at least take 15 seconds to note that it happened when he's carrying this team this year in the way that he's doing it. The Denver side of it, why I cannot eliminate them and why I had them second on my title pie is. Oklahoma City has the best defense in the league. And I know that they had guys out, which I'll get to in a second. But Denver has just proven that they can score against Oklahoma City. They did it in the seven game series last year. They've done it this year. Like the Thunder give up 107 points to everybody else per game. They give up 119 when they played Joker. SGA said he has the answers to the test. Yokech has the answers to the test against OKC. Can't write him off. The re-enough. No doubt, but those games are all the games have been single digits. They've all come down to the end. And then brew, this is the last thing and there's no graphic here. This is just more of a feel for it. I don't think I've ever seen a deeper team than Oklahoma City. Heart and steam out last night. Caruso out last night. The good Jalen. The good Jalen will later. To if people forget. He had three NBA finals games where he scored more than 25 points. He had a 40 point finals game. He was all NBA defense last year. He's an all star last year. He's out. There are other Jalen Williams had 29 last night. Jared McCain had the best plus minus of any player in the game. Like this team is so incredibly well constructed and deep. I don't, we've seen maybe better, more spectacular starting fives. We've seen better duo's at the top. I honestly, in my 30 years of watching basketball closely, I don't think I've ever seen a deeper basketball team than the Oklahoma City. No, look, they're very deep. I think the system, I feel has something to do with that. But it does feel like you can just plug guys. And even when S.J. was out, they kept winning. They had a winning record even when he was out. I agree with you because my other take was Denver. Don't write them out. Now, I would not, I will not, I don't think, pick them to win the West. But I do think they're capable. They have been struggling. They're now the 16. They're a game and a half ahead of Phoenix for sevens. All right, so if they fall out of the top six, then anything can happen in these one, two game situations in the play. But if they're in the top six, you have to take them seriously and give them a shot of at least knocking out one of the top, like, like, OKC, which I think they could knock out OKC or San Antonio, or even winning the whole West. Because last night, Eric Gordon was back. Yes, sir. It was just his second game back. But he didn't play well in his first game. Last night, 23 and 10, he's getting back to himself, it seems, and then give Jamal Murray credit, play through that ankle injury. And so if Denver's issue is health, even healthy, they're not guaranteed to win the West. But if they, if they go into the playoffs at full strength, then OKC, Denver, San Antonio, and I still throw Minnesota in there as a sport. But they're right there with those. Next game is April 10, in Denver. I'd like to see Denver win one of them before I start to believe in them. Oh, we saw three in the playoffs. Should the Eagles be worried next? Three's not enough. Yeah, you got to win four. Yeah, that's right. Welcome back to First Things First. Greg Jennings is here with a great looking tie. Welcome back, Greg. I like to check out the YouTube channel if you get a chance in our podcast. Where are you at, Gianna? Number 41? What? We got to work harder on that. So check out the podcast if you get it. I liked it better when we were in line. Number three, in the world. I keep you people on their toes. Great news. Geno Smith is back on the Jets. Started his career in 2013 in New York before bouncing around, finding success in Seattle, where he won comeback, player the year, sent a text to Ian Rappaport, text from a pumped Geno Smith, complete full circle moment back to where it all began. I'm excited to connect with my new teammates and coaches and everyone in the building, as well as building new relationship with the fan base and community. I love this. Bro, what is there not to love? What is there not to love about this story? Honestly, I would feel this way for any quarterback going to the Jets. I mean, look, I know how she helped me. Geno was not good last year. I had my fun with the Geno and all that. And I don't know if he's going to turn it around or not. I feel like he is not going to turn it around with the Jets. And I look, if he had gone somewhere else, Minnesota or Pittsburgh even, like, I would feel like, OK, I'm willing to give him a chance because he was so good those previous three years, maybe last year was just a bad situation. He's going to another bad situation. In fact, this one might be even worse. And maybe I'm even pumped up more about this because of what we just saw, Sam Darnold. You, this is what teams want. We got the number three pick in a quarterback and he drive. We got Sam Darnold. What was Zach Wilson, two? Second pick? We got Zach, neither one of them paying down for him. And it turns out Sam Darnold was actually a Super Bowl with a quarterback. They didn't know what to do with him. So you mean to tell him you think they're going to resurrect Geno's career? I don't know if it was one of Geno's. I don't think it needs resurrecting. Well, after last year, it was just a bad day. Yeah, but it was a bad 15 games. But with him, we have a whole 15 days. Geno's, if you dress great, if Greg dresses great every day. And then one day, three months straight of not dressing well, that changes the, just the way he was. Who was good on the Raiders? Is Pete Carroll not a good coach? Zasher, Jettick, can't run the ball? Max Crosby's the only guy who was any good on the Raiders last year. And they sat him down. The Jets are jess's, if not worse. Now that is the point. That's the, I'm definitely the one. He got Garrett Wilson. He got a breeze hard. I just, I hope I'm wrong. I just feel bad for Geno. I'm not making fun of him. I feel bad for him. I, so for the Jets, the positive side of this. Yes. The Jets got better at quarterback. Yes. They improved that quarterback. That is the name of the game. You want to get better at quarterback. Clearly, I don't know how you feel about it with, look on your face. Well, I'm just saying, with Geno. Hard to get worse. This is a lot of what happened last year. I'm not excluding Geno from the mix because he could have played and he should have played better. But when you have an offensive line that doesn't show up, that you got people in your defenders in your face every single snap, you start to change and lose your, your fundamentals. And we saw that. Interceptions spiked, mightily decision-making, even some of the accuracy. And he wasn't what we saw. In the previous years with Seattle. However, when you go to a team like the Jets, where you were drafted by this organization, you were young. You weren't the player that they, that you hoped to be for the organization. And obviously, you didn't care for how the organization was run. Then, but you are a much mature player. You've proven that you can play in this league. So there's no doubt that he can play. It's a matter of, can he be what they need him to be prior to them getting their guy? Because Geno's not the long-term answer, right? He's just a, again, and we use his word with a lot of teams that struggle to have find their quarterback. He's just a bridge guy right now. But he's a bridge to what? That's the problem. With them, I didn't play. Everybody has been a bridge guy, but he's probably one of the better bridge guys that we've seen. That's right. Go back to New York. I'm with on that. Listen, I think that Geno Smith did not have a lot of options in terms of I can go somewhere and be a starter. I don't think he's, I gotta imagine text to Ian Rappaport aside. Like, if he could pick where he would go, I'm sure he would prefer to go to Minnesota and throw to Justin Jefferson. Maybe he would prefer to go some of these other places. But he's like, Geno Smith through 17 interceptions in 15 games last year. He was awful. The three years before that, he was top eight in yards, touchdowns and completion percentages. Over a three year bodywork. So I absolutely believe that Geno is better than what he showed with the Raiders. But this is the part that I'm just like a human level and you could probably speak to this like, he's 35 years old and he has 98 starts. He had a seven year stretch of time where he only started five football games because he was a backup, like post the Jeff. Geno probably just wants to play football. Oh, you'll let me be a starter? Okay, I'll go there. Even if I can't really win, even if the organization treated me poorly in the past, even if the fans treated me poorly. Like, he didn't have six options. He had this option where he could be a starter. So we took it. Yeah, again, when you get drafted by a team, you hope to be what they drafted. And you want to see that really pan out. He has an opportunity to do what a lot of us dream, if the Packers had come to me at the end of my career and said, hey, Greg, you want to come back? I'm like, yeah, and I go there and I continue to have success. That's just like a bow on the end of my career. That's Geno right now on a mission. Yeah, you want to be the reason why you turn the organization around, but I don't think that's the driving force. He just wants to get them started in the right direction. That means something. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. They're not S-Bob. They just need to get up to where a serious franchise. And Aaron Glenn is the serious guy. And now we have a serious quarterback. Mika Fitzpatrick, like the defense can be, I don't know, something. The jets are not well run. No, no, they have some serious players. Yeah, look, I'm not down in Geno on this. I agree with Danny. Like, this might be the only chance he would have had to start. And I get it. Go somewhere and start. He doesn't want to back up anymore. I just feel like a massive way. I think it's a story book ending. I'll probably back up. Is it going to be a story book if they're one in six and he's got one and a half picks per game? No. That's what I was thinking. I just think it could end up being a bitch. That would be a regret. I just feel for you, man. I just feel like the idea of Geno getting a fresh start back and team the draft. Afternoon headlines sponsored by Hilton Garden in Hilton. It's for the stay. Eagles, GM, howie Roseman known for making deals so far? Not so much. Headline from the Delaware News Journal, Martin Frank. Why Eagles for agency disaster will only get worse? Can they respond? Artichoke wasn't as caustic as the headline. Actually, he had some faith in howie Roseman. I mean, in Philly, they're like, oh, that's nice. There are the rest. Jahan Dotson went to the Falcons. Jalen Philips went to the Panthers to Kobe Dean to the Raiders. Reed Blankenship to the Texans, which I love for the Texans. Don't forget, I'm very high on the Texans. A lot of people saying they had all-time great defense last year. So they got to the playoffs all of a sudden. They don't know good. Quarterback. Quarterback is sneaky great. The quarterback of the Texans? Yes, I believe in the quarterback in Texans in a major way. But hold on, we got to talk about the Eagles. Should Eagles fans be concerned this lack of movement? Greg? No. No. Howie Roseman has a track record of making the best moves and the right moves and putting this team in position to where they can compete for championships. Now it didn't happen last year, but just because it doesn't start the way everybody else's offseason starts and you're losing some of your players, look, Jalen Philips, really good player. He didn't produce the sack numbers. Now the pressure, he gets pressure. Top four, and pressure. I love what he's able to do. But at that price point, you're not going to pay him that amount of money on that team to be that. When you have other guys on that defensive line that you know, you're going to eventually have to pay. Now Nikobe Dean, injury riddled, important piece in the locker room has been effective, but not a staple. We don't talk about that. We don't say, Nikobe Dean, did you see Nikobe Dean? We don't say that when we talk about this Eagles team played about 50-something percent of the snaps. Now Reed Blankenship, he was a staple on that defense. He played, there was only two players that played more defensive snaps than he. Zach Bond and Cooper DeGene. Reed Blankenship is going to be tough one to replace. I trust how he rose, because of how he's run this organization and because of the pieces that he's brought in and how they've impacted that team. How he rose, and deserves the benefit of the doubt. No question. I'm with you. I think we'd all agree on that. There is a point where you can reach a tipping point of just too much loss talent though. We talk about the chiefs not paying cornerbacks. How he rose, and hasn't paid ad rushers. So Jalen Phillips got too expensive. Josh Svet, Hassan Reddick, Bryce Huff. He pays guys for a year or two, a little amount of money, and then they get comp picks when they leave. They've got a formula there. They paid Zach Bond. They lose the Kobe Dean. They drafted Jihad Campbell to replace him. They definitely have a plan. But when you add up last year's losses after the Superlulier with Milton Williams plus all of these losses, plus the cap situation there, and if they trade AJ Brown before June 1st, I look this up today. It's a $72 million cap. We probably save that topic until June. That's the thing. It's not going to happen if it ever happens. So they're just, these moves are not to make them better today. They're to make their financial position better in the future. Like, no one's going to argue the Eagles are a better football team today. But I do think, because last year they were arguably the most talented team in the league, certainly one of the handful of most talented teams. So they could lose some talent and still be contender status. And then when you put on their how he rose, and then you know he's going to make some smart moves. I look, I think they'll have enough talent to be a contender. My question is the culture there. I could see this being a year that it just goes south for them because of the culture, because of it feels, you know, a lot of it's AJ Brown, who probably be back. It looks like maybe it falls over this year. But I think the biggest thing for them is what do the other teams in the division do? If Dallas doesn't improve defensively. If Washington, which presumably will have Jayden Daniels there the whole season. But what if they're not as good as we might expect? And what if the Giants don't take the jump under Harbaugh, then the Eagles still could be a top division. But if those three teams or a couple of them get as good as some people think, and I think they could make jumps, that's when I think it could be tough for the Eagles. Okay. Dust, do you want to do a tour? Are we standing by? If you're not going to do a tour, I've got lots of stats that say you're still good. I'm saying it. Mike Evans teaming up with Brock and Kyle Chen and I've been camping for 12 years. Yes, career and camp away. Break is 11 years streak of 1000 yard seasons and it last year after he missed nine games. Are you willing to guarantee that he tops 1000 yards this year? If Mike Evans stays healthy, he tops 1000 yards this year. Absolutely. Why am I going to doubt him? He's done it his entire year with the exception of last year getting hurt. He probably would have done it again last year. Like this guy just knows how to catch the ball, gain yards, put the ball in the end zone and zone and stay in a position to where he's eclipsing this 1000 yard mark. And if it were, and again, he's been doing it since, I mean, I was in the league, but 1000 yards today is not that much of a feat. It's like, cause of the game or the style of the game. The style of the game, the way of which we throw the ball now, it's like a lot of people, a lot of guys can get 1000 yards. But Mike Evans in that system, having a running game, a lot of his years in Tampa, he never had a running game. It was a passing game and he still was able to produce. He is going to have a running attack. You are going to have to play the run. You get Mike Evans on the outside and a Kyle Shanahan offense, skamed up. You got George Kiddler to obviously focus on if you're a defender. Mike Evans is going to get 1000 yards. Stefan Diggs did it with your Patriots and a lot of people doubted him. That was coming off of his injury. I tend to agree with you. And I think you can have a big year for them, particularly in the red zone. Like I think he has a lot of touchdowns. I would not be surprised if he has double digit touchdowns. Everybody is very good in the red zone. And I think obviously Evans is too. My only question about the 1000 yards, we're assuming health, of course, is they have so many other weapons that Perdi might be thrown to. Now they won't throw the McCaffrey as much this year because now they'll have better receivers. But McCaffrey is going to get his yardish. Kiddler is going to get his yardish. If Pierce all stays healthy, he's a weapon. And Jennings will see if they keep Joanne Jennings a free agent. If Jennings is healthy, that's another weapon. So I could just see them spreading the wealth and maybe that would keep him even though he might have 900 some yards, but 10 or 11 touchdowns. But I tend to agree with you that I would think he's going to get there. The comp I would make and it sounds like a line with your thinking is the season Devonte Adams just had. Devonte Adams only caught 60 balls in like high 700 yards in terms of production. He did 14 games so that accounts for age and maybe missing a couple of games due to injury. But he had 14 touchdowns and led the league in touchdowns. They spread the ball around a lot. They run the ball a lot in a Shanahan system. We looked it up. There have been 7,000, 1,000 yard seasons. Four of them were to Kiddler. One of them was to Debo, kind of a unique Swiss Army knife player. Brandon Iyuk's the only true wide receiver who's had 1,000 yards. He was barely over 1,000. He did it twice. But is he talented enough to do it? Yeah, but something tells me just like because of his age and how they'll use him it'll be more about like the red zone. More like touch, more touchdowns. More touchdowns, short yardage. Use him in that way. Yeah, look, he's definitely going to get used in the red zone. A lot more fable. It's a little different style of how you use him than Devonte because Devonte's primary usage was because of how he releases off the ball, line of scrimmage. And when you look at that offense, Pukin, the cool was going to get the lion share of the targets, you know, 20 to 20. This I just, I look at this. Number one, yeah. Yeah, like, I, Pier saw, I think Pier saw is going to emerge because we saw glimpses of him being a little bit more productive. But somebody's going to have to be the number one guy. It's not going to be Christian McCaffrey again as a receiver, not with Mike Evans, not with Pier saw. And I don't think Jennings will really be in the equation this year. We'll see how that works out. But I just believe Mike Evans, knowing his track record, his resume, Kyle Shanahan will always have something cooked up for him. And this in the back of his mind, if you tell me I want to try to get, yeah, speaking of number one wide receivers, the Patriots just got Romeo dobs. Greg, you should like it. Excellent. More. What? Oh, sorry. Tiger plums. Can we remind the audience please? I forgot about this. No, no, no. I forgot about this. We have to remind the audience. We have a little debt to settle, please. If Mike Evans leaves Tampa Bay, I will cook this into a donut and eat it. Wow. There's the script. There is zero chance. There is zero chance. Zero chance, huh? I was just shocked. I thought it was a paper shatter. This is a paper shatter. No, no, no, I was posturing for more money. He loved. Oh, man. He loved Tampa Bay. Can I have your script, please? Can't put they loved him. Script, please. First of all, first of all, hand me one of those donuts. Hold on one second. This is the Mike Evans script. That's the weird and wonderful script. Come on now. I'm going to do that to the donuts. A lot of noise here. Wait, so you don't know. Put that in there official. Thank you very much. So the audience knows we're not cheating this. Thank you. Let's see if I can do this. Thank you. All right. Well, something. I'm okay. Thank you. Thank you. You said you do. I'm a gambler. We have to settle our debts on this show. It's only right. It's just paper. It's just pie. It's only paper. And there's goodies underneath that paper. Yeah. Enjoy it. As far as bets go. I'm not thrilled with this. That being said, I've seen some pretty gross bets paid off. Exactly. That's not one. Having a little bit of script. I mean, get a good enough to me. Mike Evans, I hope you have a great year. I really hope you have a sweet and delicious season with a 49 year old. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. That was good. I don't usually show the power of a donut. It's not bad at all. Yeah, of course. Of course. That's fine. Live from New York. The show that is finally talking about Drake May and some moves that the Patriots made. Then a while, the next move will be in June. Call them some salary cap stuff with AJ Brown. June. So you still have AJ Brown as a Patriot? Not at all. You don't think it's happening? Yeah. I don't think it's happening either. I bought a bunch of those books. You just told me everything I need to know. I'll save it from that. X-Low. Second hour, first things first. Today is two of the answer for the Falcons. Some very interesting stats about Cuba and Atlanta that might make you say, hmm, maybe they don't deserve to be projected to be in the last place in the division. Meanwhile, Ken Rosenthal, with us to talk about WBC, what's the deal with schoolboy Greg Gloves, even though he said I'm out of here? Maybe some meanings, I'm gone. But right now, let's check in on the Super Bowl silver medalist. Added Elijah Verite Tucker to shore up a leaky offensive line, which at times caused Drake May to run for his life. Drain, happening just before the show, Romeo Dobbs. 25 years old. Some touchdowns last year for the Packers. That's good. Feel pretty good. Here are the moves that the Patriots made. Those were Drain Mont Jones we didn't even talk about from the Ravens. Max Crosby and Drain Mont Jones to the Patriots. Step on leaving Garrett Bradbury to the Bears, Tonga to the Chiefs and Tobiah, I don't think he has signed anywhere yet. So Greg will start with you since you're familiar with Romeo Dobbs. How should Drake May feel about these moves? Look, he should be excited about this move. I really like Romeo Dobbs. I know a lot of people who watch the Packers play, they won by committee. They didn't have a true number one guy. Obviously, Christian Watson, Jayden Reed. We know Matthew Goatton, all the guys that they had. But the one guy who was always a constant, when available, when he wasn't having one of his head issues, a concussion issues, was Romeo Dobbs. And he's developed every single year as a better route runner, a better deep ball catcher, a better overall wide receiver. He's great at the line of scrimmage. He shows up in big games. His number's in the post season. I think he's averaging like 90 yards a game in the post season. I think he has either three or four post season games. But he's a big time player. Is he a true number one? We're going to find out. I don't know. I think he has the potential to be. He's a lot bigger than I think people think. He's about six four. Like two. Yeah. Yeah. He's a lot taller than what people remember. I'm going to hammer the under of him. I thought it was the Guardian cap. Yeah. Don't let the Guardian cap. He's a great player. Romeo Dobbs. He's a great player. But he can run the entire route tree. I like the, when you get rid of a guy like Stefan Diggs, you have to bring in somebody that can create separation. We talk about separators in our league. We think about Devonte Adams, Pukin Nucuo, those have Romeo Dobbs is right there with them. Love it. He separates. When you have a young quarterback and you are asking him to shoulder your offense and support of the run game and everything, you need to have receivers that can separate. If there's one thing Romeo Dobbs can do, he can separate. He understands because he's been in a system in a unit room that challenges one another. It's not just been about one player, but they all have this appetite to be the one. Now he'll get the opportunity. We'll see what he does with it. This is a big move for New England. I like it. Are they better today? Yes. Today they are better because they added Romeo Dobbs. If we throw up the addition and subtraction list again from the Super Bowl, the ads are what they are. Obviously you've got to get somebody who's going to snap the ball to your quarterback. That would help. I think Jerry Wilson is going to slide over. He's going to slide over. He's going to be the center. I think that was the plan and that's why Bradbury was available. Diggs was very good and you would probably sign up for Romeo Dobbs to just give you Stefan Diggs's production from last year. Do you think he's going to be better at bouncing yards? Yeah. Really? That's the thing. Listen, I watch Romeo Dobbs very closely. I mean, not quite as closely as you. If the Packers who have used not the most premium resources historically on wide received, they invest in Christian walks and they invest in Romeo Dobbs. They used the first round pick on Matthew Golden. And they were like, we can afford to let this guy go. This is what they do. This is what they do. They have all these goods at that position. And so somebody, you have to allow Matthew Golden to get on the field. And so by default, Romeo Dobbs is the guy that's out. I think Dobbs is a good player. I do have questions about whether or not when he's getting the primary focus of a defensive coordinator in the passing. Like, we have to stop Romeo Dobbs. I do have questions about whether or not he could be a one. I do think he's a very good red zone guy. He's very aggressive going up and getting the ball. I just think they've lost about as much talent as they've gained. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm not sure that they are a much better team post-superbowl. But they're in a good cap position. They got a good coach. They have a good quarterback. I just think that this is, they're kind of around neutral right now from where they were post-superbowl. Dobbs is a good receiver. I don't think he's a one-grick. Like, don't you think if he were a one, he would have emerged as the one there in Green Bay? I know they got a bunch of good receivers, but you know what I mean? Like, I think he had that opportunity. And while what you said about still thinking you're getting AJ Brown, that tells me every thing I need to know. You don't think he's a one. If this is the situation comes September, to Danny's point, you're not going to be happy. It's a little bit of a logical corner. That's what I'm saying. Like, Dobbs is a good addition with booty. And if you get an AJ Brown or enough, I just don't think he's a number one. And so that's where I'm at. And I'm, look, I'm pro, I, Dobbs has done some good things. I'm a little stung because last year the Packers were my pick in the NFC. And this just, it's hard for me to get this out of my mind. It just stung me. It hurt me. Danny loved it. I think we got it. No, no, no. You're on the sure hands team. No, no, that's what I'm all about. The sure hands team. Talking about this upstairs. I was like, oh, Patriots got room here, Dobbs, the guy, I don't know. Brad, I mean, they're great. What? Am I, am I tripping? I'm just swiping out of bounds. What? What is easy to catch though? For sure hands team. Look, whoops. That moment, that was a low light. That killed. Yes. Yes, it did. So that makes me a little, and I get it, that wasn't even a catchers or a group of people. That's the platform. That hurts me. For what we now know as ice man. Yeah. That, that, that whole rally. It's a lucky play. That's what is, um, I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about it. I feel good about everything. I mean, I feel good about everything. Well, here's a Lamar. As long as we get eight. Lamar. I remember Lamar tweeted that training day, Denzel Washington. So it was like, we can't. I think that was a mac treasure. We can't get to the quarterback. We got macs crossby. My home's tweeted some biceps. We can't run the ball. We got Kenneth Walker. Josh Allen doesn't tweet, but I'm sure he's happy. DJ Moore arrived. Drake needed protection. Look, if Elijah, uh, Veritalker's healthy. Right. We're in business. We need a number one. Stefan's gone. Romeo's in. I would, would really like a G. Rowan. That's the thing. I don't have the stats in front of me. I don't. Number one, like Justin Jefferson, the patrons haven't really had that since Randy Moss. Even like throughout all of Josh McDaniel's time, it's a lot of tight ends. But you had his lot receivers during that time. Tom Brady's very good. Drake is great. What was the last game you saw? Uh, Drake in besides he was doing a little clinic in Hawaii. He's not Tom Brady. Well, he did go to Super Bowl the second year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did go to get some better receipts. If Justin Herbert didn't get an MVP vote, he would be tied for MVP. Co MVP. Uh, with top 10 Tuesday. Yeah, that's obviously. It's a great day. Free agency addition. Today, it's the top 10 winners of free agency. Teams players, people, and my favorite concepts. I love it. All right, kick us off top 10 Tuesday. Thank you. I'm here for Kevin Woeves. I'm going to have a lot of you here for it. Bring your knackered go anywhere. Coming in number 10, this one is pretty simple. And we're going to try not to just, you know, count the bag for all of these guys. But will equal us less than 10 starts in your career living in Tennessee in Green Bay. You've just got $45 million guaranteed to go live in South Beach. Pretty good deal. And your coach and GM thought enough of your limited time in Green Bay, they get the job in Miami. They're going to be able to provide to bring you over. And with the guarantees, you probably have a two year run way to prove it because my aim is going to be pretty bad this year. Coming in at number nine, this one pains me. Nick Ray. Guys in Japan. And he's built fame and fortune off LeBron James and the Chiefs. And his Chiefs when he's gone gets Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker. And there's still going to be in the cultural zeitgeist because they bring back one of the most famous athletes in the world in Travis Kelsey. It's annoying. I really make the playoffs. Listen, that's a problem for future Nick right. For today in free agency. I love, I love the bureau. It's going to be a lot of love to be around. I'm a man of the action. Did Nick sin? Did he text you those? Yeah. I know. Much more incriminating video I could have given extra production staff. Coming in at number eight, top winners of free agency, Jalen Phillips. My goodness. Number eight. Right. You can take it over here the entire time. But $120 million coming off of five sex. Seventeen games, five sex, you're right, Bruce. Like the pressure numbers are there and suggest that he should have much more production. I don't know if he's going to have that production in Carolina. But that guy got paid off of limited production. And the two years before that, serious injury questions. Yeah. He doesn't have one great season ever. And he just got $120 million. $3 million. Coming in at number seven, this is where concepts comes into play. The Chargers. I feel like I could have put me here. Because last year you guys beat me up a lot for my Chargers takes and my Herbert takes. And now I come in on the day one of free agency. They didn't even do a lot of things with addict. And Bruce like, I got them with the bills and the Ravens, the best team in the agency. Wilds like the Chargers are going to be scared. Well, they're major moves though. I know. My McDaniel. But then it was my point. And in the healthy line. We did a free agency show yesterday. And you guys both said in passing almost, we're picking the Chargers and the AFC West. We're a Chargers show guys. We're a Chargers show. Well, the Nick shouldn't be on there. Because that's not good for Nick. Well, I mean, that's why he was seven. The Chargers were seven and Nick, whatever he was. Coming in at number six, this one is easy. Brock Birdie. You got Mike Evans. You got Mike Evans. You got a guy who has a thousand yards and double digit touchdowns. Really every year, he is going to elevate you. We talk about all the weapons that he's had. That is a true legitimate weapon to add the rich getting richer in the arms race of the AFC West. Coming in at number five, Kyler Murray hasn't signed yet, but Minnesota is still available. Minnesota did not make a move for a different level. They didn't make a genome move. They didn't make a two a move. Kyler can't really contact teams legally until tomorrow, although legal tampering seems to not really be a thing in the NFL. The fact that Minnesota is still available and he could step into a top 10 defense, a top 10 play caller, a top five wide receiver. And all he has to do is beat out JJ McCarthy and it probably wouldn't even be a competition because they would just trade JJ. Kyler Murray has to love how free agency has fallen so far. Coming in at number four, the box. I didn't think we'd see it for months and it made a comeback. I mean, that's America's favorite bit and it made a comeback. I think they overpaid for it. But I didn't think we'd see the box until September at the earliest and free agency brings us the return of Bruce. No, I'm good at saying it. Yeah, no, and everybody loved it. Coming in at number three, West Sneed, FM picks is just a vibe and a mantra. The guy has used one first round pick in eight years and he hit it out of the park in Jared first. He's like, hey, your whole secondary is bad. We need to remake it. He's like, no problem. And he just, in 48 hours, he makes a trade. He gives out the biggest contract ever to a corner. He signs two other guys and he wakes up the next day and they're the favorites to win the Super Bowl. Like, everybody tries to build through the draft and he's like, well, I just need to retool an entire secondary in 48 hours. No problem. Coming in at number two, this is back to pocket watching a little bit. I'll admit, Alec Pierce. Man, good year to be a guy who had 47 catches last night. I'm sorry. Under the 16 million dollars, because the Colt said we went all in on Daniel Jones, we went all in for trading for soft scarther, then Daniel Jones got hurt, and so we have to justify the move for Daniel Jones, and he was great throwing the Alec Pierce, so we have to bring back Alec Pierce, but 15 other teams wanted Alec Pierce. So I doubt if the number would have been at 29 a year. But Greg, he's the ninth highest paid wide receiver in the league right now. And I don't, it always feels mean spirited to say does he deserve that, but do you view him as the ninth best? No, and I don't believe that they view him as the ninth best, but given all of what you said, price of business. Price of business. And he fits what they want to display offensively. Now he has a lot of maturing to do as a total and complete wide receiver. You talk about Romeo Doves not being a true number one. We're going to see if Alec Pierce is a true number one. So what do you mean by that? And turning, running the entire route tree, getting the best defender, like there's no more Michael Pittman Jr. Obviously you got Tyler Warren and you got a great running game. And the system fits who he is as a receiver, but you have to develop your skill set. You have to be able to run slants. He's not a great slant runner. He's not a great intermediate route runner. He's a deeper route runner with play action game, because they obviously utilize who they have in the back field in Jonathan Taylor. But look, man, I'm not mad at him. Yeah. And just an unbelievable win. I would have him probably at number one, to be honest. The only guy I thought I could put above him was Fernando Mendoza, who's going to be the number one picked to the Raiders. And if you would have said to me, I love four months ago, what type of situation is the number one pick heading into if they go, if it was a disaster. And now you look up, yeah, they had Gen. T four months ago. Yeah, they had Bauer four months ago. But they've hired Clint Kubiak, who offensive minded guy helped Sam Darnold, a play call or offensive head coach. You go out and you sign Tyler Lindervom. So now you got, you like Colton Miller at left guard. You love Lindervom, three time pro bowl in his center. You like Jackson Powers Johnson at right guard. You like 60% of your offensive line. You like tight ends. You like play collar. You like Jalen Naylor coming in. You like running back. You like Jalen Naylor. And they have the 14th pick in the trade for Max Crosby, to if they want, go get a right tackle or someone else on offense. So let's go. Keep going. He's not what he's not what's just do it. He's not what's just do it. Let's just do it. Someone like Nick. Let's do it. Let's do it. We saw it with Jalen Daniels. Layoffs and Vegas playoffs. Are you saying it used to be out of the question? It's not out of the question anymore. I will. It's on the board. It is on the board. It's not predictions we get. I'm not ready. Listen, I don't know if there's a thing. They can lose 35 to 90. In the vision? Right. But the whole goal is if you draft a quarterback number one, that you're not drafting them into a position where, like, we can't even evaluate it. Or we're going to feel like all it's not a bad situation. For him to go into especially if they use that 14th pick for another player. Like he's he's not in a big. A bit of a spot. It's a great. Eight. Yeah. Eight wins and play well. Oh, yeah. But Dan, he's saying playoff. I'd just say we're going to have to we're going to have to talk about it. Like they have invested heavily in the off. The hub said 30th worst odds to make the playoffs. He didn't even look that up. He has a Raiders fan. He's just not known. They have one of his tattoos. They have no talent on defense. And they're going to be doing a first time head coach and a first man. Let me just say I got to look at Josh. Who did the Raiders sign on defense? The Kobe D. Kobe D and some court. Yeah, okay. Que Walker. Yep, they got a question. Okay, so that's some linebackers. But look, I'm not mad at it. It's just Fernando Mendoza's position today is a lot better than it was 48 hours ago. He's in a pretty good spot. Greg, are you adding anybody? Yeah, honorable mention for me. And this team they lost a lot. But the New York Giants. And I'm starting all the way when the coaching hire. John Harbour, obviously you lose Wendell Robinson. Which would have been nice to be able to hold on to him. But you add Isaiah likely another pass catcher. We're tied in. You got to love that. And then you lose your corner and flop your young corner and a quarter of a flop. But you then bring in Greg Newsom. So what you lose, you ended up getting in retrieving. And when you look at this young offense now, you're like, man, Malik neighbor's healthy. We got a good tied in. We got a running game that we can kind of support our running back. We got the head coach in position. We're bolstering up our defense a bit. Like, Traumane, they got your guy from Chicago, a veteran guy inside backer. Traumane, Edmunds. Like, they're putting strategic pieces together so that they can be ready to roll when the season hits. And we'll see what they do with the draft. But I like what the New York Giants are doing. No, I agree with that. I'm going to add a guy hate to lose, but Tyler Lindermom. Three years, 81 million. As good as Lindermom is, I don't think he's as good as Cree Humphrey. And Humphrey was making 18 million a year. Lindermom is making 27 million a year. That jumped. Nine million dollars a year at that position. Good for him. 27 million a year at 25 years old to live in Vegas. But is he happy, you know? Again, again. Situation. Got a young quarterback. You kind of want to have him have some support. I love it. You got to get all the off it. All that stuff. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Welcome back to First Things First. Talking World Baseball Classic. Team USA defeats Mexico 5 to 3. USA now undefeated. Play Italy in the pass-watch. And there's his espresso tonight joining us now to discuss everything. It's Ken Rosenthal. Ken, thanks for joining me and us. We're here too. Well, I'm sorry. Because you guys have been making fun of me. Because I'm a Red Sox fan. But I also got made fun of online. Because as soon as Aaron Judge hit the whole run, I used the all rise gift. And then Roman Anthony at it. So Danny is making fun of me saying, I'm not allowed to be a Roman Anthony and an Aaron Judge fan. I'm saying, I get a pass because Team USA and it's part of one of the great parts of the World Baseball Classic. Okay, I'll give you a pass too. Thank you. Thank you, guys. I didn't know that was a question. You like right. I didn't think it was the camaraderie of the team, of all these different guys, rivals kind of joining all together. What have you made of that? There's no question that that is occurring. And it's been a big part of actually what the manager Mark Dorosa wanted to achieve with this team. Beyond the performance on the field, he wanted a band of brothers. And he put the team together, not just because he had these all best players. But also because he wanted them to have a certain chemistry, a certain character to them. They've been talking with each other after games, during games, before games, going out to dinners with each other. And they have formed in a very short amount of time, this close bond. And I don't know that that translates to on field performance. But there's definitely something going on there. And they seem to be playing for a higher cause. They are absolutely into the fact that they're playing for the country. Yeah, you can feel it. And it really feels like they want to win this one, where some of them in the past have just felt like, okay, we'll show up as an exhibition. But to that situation, the pitching situation where, you know, school will won't be pitching again. Do you see that changing maybe over time, where we will not limit our pictures? Because that seems to be the one thing that can hold us back if we can't throw our best pictures as much as we want to. Well, there are always going to be pitcher limits as long as this event is held in spring training. And those limits are not set by the U.S. They're set by the tournament themselves. It's a 65 pitch limit for this first round. What Scoobal ran into is more a scheduling issue. As he's getting ready for the season, his free agent season, in a year in which he could end up making $400 million. He wanted to stay on a certain routine. And he couldn't make it work pitching once, where it all balanced out. He could pitch in the final then for USA and then opening day. He just could not do the math or make the math work for him. Now, in the future, a guy like that, and we might not see a guy like that, even participate in the WBC again for the U.S. But in the future, a guy like Scoobal would think to himself, you know what, I want to be part of this the whole time. I want to pitch twice instead of once. There are only seven games. He wasn't going to pitch more than twice. And perhaps he would set his schedule from the start differently. Ken, the lineups feels overwhelming. They're obviously the favorites. Is there a flaw on Team USA? I don't know that there's a flaw. But I don't know that I would say that they're the favorites either. If you look at the Dominican lineup, it is every bit as strong as Team USA. We're talking about Tatees, Guerrero, Machado, on and on and on. And Catel Marte, Geraldo, Pardomo. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few as well. So that is a very talented group. Oh, I know I'm forgetting Juan Soto, that guy. He's pretty good. They're pretty good. And Japan is really good as well. We've seen that already. They won their group rather easily. So I don't know that I would say USA is the favorite. But I would say this. This is the best USA team we've seen in the six classics. And that includes the 2017 team that won the gold medal. And it also includes the 2023 team that came really close with, of course, Otani striking out trout for the final out. They were teammates at the time. Or they were, was Otani still on the Angels at that time? Yeah, which is okay. So speaking of teammates last night, Cal and Randy Arroz Arena. And this has happened a few times in the tournament. What do you make of the handshake that wasn't? I don't make much of it. And Calarale just spoke at the ballpark to Bob Knight and Gail of USA today. And said there's no beef. There's no problem. Basically what this is is a guy, Raleigh, in the heat of competition, wanting to stay locked in. That's what he said. We saw that earlier in the tournament with an Australian catcher during the same thing with the Czech player. And we've seen it in the past. We'll smith the Naros Arena in 2023. So these guys are teammates. I don't know that anyone in the sport has ever said a bad word about Cal Raleigh. And I know Arroz Arena has said some things last night. I haven't talked to Arroz Arena about that. I have think it was ingest. But at the same time, from Raleigh's perspective, at least, there is no problem. Do you expect, I mean, Italy tonight, and despite, you know, Vinny Pasquatino, he's our guy, the pass-quatch. But do you expect a blowout by Team USA tonight? I don't know that I would say I expect that. And if you've watched these games, even against Brazil and Great Britain, they kind of had a hard time getting going, or at times a hard time getting runs home. Now they erupted in both those games. And then in the last night's game, they got five early, but they didn't get anymore. So it's not fate-accompli at the same time. They should win. They've got Nolan McLean, a great rookie for the U.S. Mets pitching tonight. They're facing an Italy team with not just Pasquatino, but Jacob Marcia, the Marlins, a guy who is emerging as a star. They've got some interesting young players as well. And they've got Michael Lorenzon on the mound tonight. So I wouldn't discount the possibility of an upset, but I'm not expecting it either. Ken, I loved your peace on Bobby Witt. Kind of a sneaky MVP of last night's game, if they were giving out MVP's of individual games here. He's already a star, obviously. So I don't know if you could say he could be a breakout star, but I'm curious, if you see him or anyone else using this to kind of catapult into this upcoming baseball season. I actually would say in some respects, Bobby Witt is a breakout star, because I don't know that the average fan on the coast is too familiar with his game. He plays in the A.L. Central in Kansas City, and even though he was second in the A.L. MVP voting two years ago, fourth last year, he's not necessarily the same kind of household name as, say, Aaron Judge or Otani. But if you talk to players about him, if you saw my post-game interview with Judge last night, the respect that they have for him is at the same level as the respect they have for those it'll meet players in the game. He does it all. You see the defensive plays there. He obviously did some things offensively last night to doubles, stolen base. He is a guy that is just a brilliant talent. Only 25 years old, and yes, I expect his star to continue to rise. And the other guy we put into this category is Roman Anthony. We didn't see much last year. That's Joe. He played less than 80 games, but he's played really well so far in the classic. He's 21 years old, and he's going to be a big star too. I love it. Final thoughts on the best player in the world, and Bruce, he's the best player of all time, we're running out of adjectives to talk about Otoni. He gets up with the bases loaded, gone, had another home run, I think the second game, has Otoni surprised you? Is that even possible? I wouldn't say it's possible at this point. And there is no bar for this guy. There are no limits for him. And when we put limits on him or imagine limits for him, he exceeds them. So whatever show Hey Otoni does, yes, it might be surprising in the moment. Of course, you don't always expect the things that he does. But at the same time, when you step back, look at what he is accomplished in his career, both as a pitcher and a hitter, it can't ever be surprised. This guy is the best player of this generation, and yes, maybe of all time. So in the classic, he's not going to pitch. That's a little bit different, right? Then last time around, but my goodness, with the bat, who knows what having he might wreak. I hope we just decides to pitch. Just on a whim. Italy vs. Team USA, tonight at 9 and FS1, can have a great game. Thank you as always. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Ken. More first things first right after the break. As I say, it even helps you make sense to have risk and return. Monzo, the bank that gets your money moving. You could get back less than you invest. Monzo, current account required UK residents 18 plus TCC supply. It's head down to Atlanta, where Tuas signs a one-year deal to join fellow lefty Michael Penix in the QB room. Greg, we've seen some highs, and we've seen some lows from Tua. Who should be QB1 in Atlanta? Look, Michael Penix, Jr., if he's able to get healthy, come back off this injury, off this A-C-L tear, and be healthy, and execute, they're going to give him the runway. Like, they want a competition. I'm with you there. One of the reasons if you're a Tua that made this a very attractive destination is because their starting quarterback is injured. I have an opportunity to potentially get a head start in the off season and get all the reps with the ones, if you will. I think Tua will have a head start, as I mentioned, but Michael Penix, Jr., so I do these bodybuilding competitions. We know. I always watch, when I'm not on stage, there's smaller guys and there's bigger guys. A smaller guy is easier to look really good in symmetric hold on stage, and it's like, it's impressive. But you want to know what's more impressive, the bigger guy, when he looks even, that's Penix Jr., when he gets on the field and he starts throwing the ball, is going to look a little different. He has the bigger arm. I know accuracy was an issue last year. He has growing to do, but that's why you got Stefansky. You're paying Stefansky to solve either one of these quarterbacks. If he's that guy that we believe he is, or they believe he is, then be the answer to what Michael Penix needs to unlock his talent to get him to perform at the higher level. So I agree that if I was running the team, I would want it to be Penix because I think he represents a higher ceiling. The bigger guy with a bigger arm, just the pure traits of it. But this is going to be, I think, a good old-fashioned quarterback competition. You have a new GM who didn't draft Michael Penix. We're going to say, when Michael Penix was a first round pick of the Falcons, so Matt Ryan wasn't there. Ian Cunningham wasn't there. Kevin Stefansky wasn't there. They haven't paid him anything. They haven't even decided on a fifth-year option for him. Michael Penix has started 12 of the possible, what, 30? How many can do the math? 12 of 34 games? He started 12 of them. And in six of those 12, he's completed less than 60% of his passes. So he isn't been that good. Two of them are paying him nothing. And he can't stay healthy. And he has a weak arm and he can't see over the offensive line and he has a serious concussion history. Well, Michael Penix is a serious ACL history. There's a really good chance that neither of these guys is healthy for a full season or is the long-term answer for Kevin Stefansky and the Falcons. Like the odds are, and this isn't maybe the sexiest take, but the odds are this is a competition, and we see both of them this year, because neither one of them is all that impressive. But I do think the traits of Penix, just pure arm strength and size, the Falcons would see him as representing a higher ceiling than two of. But like both of these guys have huge question marks attached. I agree with you that anyone interested in the Falcons would probably prefer that Penix be the guy, and that he just wins the competition and is there starting quarterback going forward. But I think two is the better quarterback. Two has been Michael, and I get it. He's young or he's early in his career. It's a small sample size. But in his two seasons, Penix is 4 and 8, with Kurt Cousin, who obviously was a good quarterback. They're 12 and 10. That's not to mention Penix is below 60% accuracy or completion percentage. Like, Tua has been a winner. I know, but it's true, he can't beat, he hasn't beaten the good teams consistently, hasn't won in cold weather. But Tua's 44 and 32 for his career. And that predates Mike McDaniel, Tyre Hill, all of that stuff. I don't know if Penix will ever reach the heights as low as they are to compare to some people. That Penix already? Two is 44 and 32. Joe Borough is 43 and 33. So this idea that you can't win with Tua. I know he's not Joe Borough, but the guy has gotten onto the field and left the game winning. The guy wins. Not in the greatest situation as far as an organization. I love Tua. And I root for Michael Penix. I'm all in on the Tua Reclamation Project. Tua's accurate. I mean, that's a big, there's a big gap in the accuracy. The fact that we need to. It's all true. But when you sign up for Tua, which they have signed up for Tua in some regard, and you say he's our starter, everything needs to be on schedule and on time. If it's not, your offense is going to look completely different. If you disrupt him, get him outside, off his spot, and outside those tackles, game set match. You can't continue. You think that's like a, like, you think about starter. Kevin Stofansky has been in this quarterback carousel forever since being a head coach. You think he's wanting to do this all over again? No. So, like, naturally, you've seen, you're going to watch, he's going to watch extensive tape on Tua. He has more obviously tape on Tua, so he kind of knows what he is. The exciting thing is probably what Penix could potentially be. Agreed. So you're going to invest a lot more of your time in that. The other thing is, is Tua, even as good as he used to be, since the concussion. And like, if I'm Stofansky, I'm like, can I get him back to kind of that, you know, two years ago in 2023 when he led Believe in Yard. Wilds is the tour guy. A lot of from New York, first things first, overtime. Kyler Murray and The Vikings. How optimistic is Greg Jennings with one of his favorite teams, also one of Greg's alumni teams. I don't really talk about it too much. Shout out to Christian Ponderville. Alright. Meanwhile, what is getting Max Crosby mean for Lamar? And finally, should the Eagles fans be a little bit worried as talent leaves the building? And not a ton of guys are coming in. Alongside Chris Pissart and Kevin Wilds, Danny Parkins. Greg Jennings, Greg, are you at all concerned about the Eagles? I'm not. I trust the process. How he was and has seemingly gotten things white in the past. And how we trust. Oh boy. I mean, it's just, it's based on history. It has worked. You lost Johan Dosson. You guys worried about that? No, that would be pretty far down. How's the Dussie was super stressed about John Dosson? I don't think he ever talked about John Dosson. Yeah, of course. A little call back. How's the script donut sitting with you? Oh, the script earlier. You know what? The script donuts are outside to eat a donut with little pieces of the script that I wrote from Mike Evans. And they were just sitting out there because I don't know why. You ate them? I thought about eating it just private. Just having more. It's on the script donut. Yeah, so what did the script didn't bother you at all? No. It was what we're written. The job I used. We're headed to Arizona slash Minnesota. Kyler's not allowed to talk to other teens until Wednesday. But we've seen some quarterbacks already find some landing spots. Genos with the jets. Tua is with the Falcons. Vikings. Nothing's going on. Or is there next team odds. Kyler's a heavy favorite to go to Minnesota. Greg, how scary are the Vikings if Kyler lands in Minnesota? This would make them a playoff potential team, for sure. Like with Kyler Murray in that building, with that talent that they already possessed and have on offense, with that defense that we know is locked and loaded, yeah, you have to respect the run. You have to respect him if he turns and he looks like he's handed it off and he has any sense to pull it and just scatter with it. It just gives you a completely different question of how you approach this offense. Knowing you have Addison jets on the outside, you already have that. If they get any semblance of a running game and get a running back in there, that's going to run the ball and pose them as a threat to run the ball. When Kyler helps you run game, just his presence. It changes everything on how you approach this team offensive or defensively. But Kyler Murray, obviously, he's a step up. A few steps up in JJ McCarthy. I just don't see JJ making the jump to even being where Kyler is at this current place and where he is in the school year. I think they're incredibly scary. I don't know. It's not time yet to make predictions and all that in terms of worst to first and super balls and championships. But it's just an unbelievable fit for Kyler. Sneaky, they are not the worst team. They won nine games. He was right at finishing last last. That is true. But in terms, that's an excellent point. If you're Kyler Murray, I got to imagine he cannot believe how fortunate he is. You leave Arizona. He talks about the failure that he felt there. Even though he got the second contract and he'd been to the playoffs. He felt like he'd let him down once. Right. No, it's seven years. Yeah, just once. It's why I understand why. But he looks around and you mentioned the defense. They have a championship caliber defense. No doubt about it. Brian Flores cannot get a job head coaching in the NFL for reasons explainable and otherwise. That's what their defense has been over a three year sample since he's been there. It is a super ball caliber defense. The moment Kyler Murray walks in. We don't have to be that old to remember what it looked like in Minnesota when they just got anything from the offense. If we look the last two years, we put their offensive numbers side by side. When they had the ninth best offense in football, they won 14 games. So is Kyler Murray the ninth best quarterback? No. But with Jefferson, with Addison, in a dome. With, you know, with that. With O'Connell calling the plays who's gotten a lot out of Donald, who got a lot out of Kirk Cousins. There's a very, very high ceiling in Minnesota if Kyler goes there. I agree with you guys. And I'm like, with Greg, they would definitely be in a very tough division, a playoff contender. I mean, who would be the odd team out if there's only one or maybe there be two there? That's what I want to know. That would be, well, it might be Detroit. If it goes well in Minnesota, or it could be Greenback, it could be any of them. I mean, honestly, if he clicks... It could be Chicago. Right. No, if he clicks there, it could, like all those teams are good, but the point is this. I'm interested. I love to fit for all that Minnesota has and Kyler now has all this talent around him. However, he's a playmaker. And O'Connell has been, you know, paint by numbers, just be on schedule, do what I want done. And so you would think Kyler's been humbled enough to just let the system work for you, rather than just wanting to make plays. And for O'Connell, does he incorporate enough room for Kyler to be himself and when it calls for it to make plays? So I think it's a great fit as far as the talent around him. I don't think like it's not... Like, Darnold is a guy that was just going to do what he was, you know, the offense told him to do. Kyler likes to make plays on his own. So I think I'd be interested in seeing how they kind of find that happy medium because I think that's what you want to do to maximize Kyler's potential. Well, yeah, that falls on obviously your play caller, who in this case happens to be your head coach in Kevin O'Connell. But a lot of this would fall on Kyler Murray, like... To accept... Yes, to accept. ...that part. Because early in his career, we saw him as an electric quarterback because of what he can do outside the pocket with his legs, and he didn't want any part of that. He's like, I want to be... I want to be seen and viewed and known as a pocket passing guy. So you would... From those sentiments that he has shared and expressed, you would believe... Or think you would hope to believe that I'm going to go in there and I'm going to try to just run the system and incorporate who I am. Because Kevin O'Connell isn't going to say, I don't want you to be Kyler Murray. No, that's what makes you special. Like, he would prefer... He wouldn't... He wouldn't cut cousins to use his legs more. Like, even Sam Donald, but that's just not what they leaned into. Naturally, Kyler Murray would lean into that. And so, you benefit. The team gets better. The team has success when you are Kyler Murray. Right. And what separates you from everyone else is what you can do and provide, which are legs. This is also one of those stories that's just like why the NFL is the best. Like, they missed the playoffs last year. They had traded up for JJ McCarthy. That was polarizing. They move on from Sam Donald. That was crushed. And they could fall into a former number one overall pick who's one of the most talented athletes to come into the league. With questions about work ethic, with questions about fit and playing on schedule, with questions about size. But that only adds to the entry. And it's like, but it might bust. There's a con negative piece. But we would all be locked in. Yeah, but it's also like, oh, one of the craziest athletes in the league with one of the strongest arms gets to go... Justin Jefferson was talking to you guys a month ago, being like, of course I'm still the best receiver in football. I've just had quarterback issues. He wouldn't have a talent issue or an arm issue with this quarterback. They would probably trade JJ McCarthy. That's what I wanted. Like, what's the market for JJ? Right. Or is there a chance they like Jordan Love him? Where it's like, Kyler's in now. You need more. Yeah, I don't know if you have... You might not know. I don't know if you have to trade him. You just sit him and hope he learns. I'll be trading at a very low value. I sound very low, but I don't know that Kyler signs... I don't think Kyler signs up for a competition. No, no, no, Kyler starts. And even if he did, he wouldn't win it. Yeah, I agree. But as far as JJ goes, like, yes, he's never been in a situation where he can truly sit and learn. Because even the year that Sam Darnold had the breakout year, a couple of years or last year, two years ago. Two years ago. Now two years ago. He was hurt. So he couldn't get on the field. He couldn't take the reps and mimic what he was seeing. He had to be a student of the game. I don't know if he really approached that the right way. And this would be one of those moments where if Kyler were to come in, you're on the roster. If he wins a job, which I believe we all agree, he would win the job. Even if they said it was a competition, he wins a job. If you don't take this opportunity to study and learn and improve, both as a mental approach and physically, when you get the practice reps, then that's, it's really telling if that's the case. But he's not going to beat out Kyler Murray. If the fight he's going to get. Any pressure on Kevin O'Connell? Yes. Really? Yes. I know he's just, yes. I don't know. He's got a different quarterback every year. I understand. Those guys who've had career years with him. Once you start, when you get rid of your general manager, and it's like, yes, and they spend the money the way they did, they were shooting for a team that was going to be a contender. They didn't make the right call as it pertains to the quarterback position. Now we bring in Kyler Murray, and we feel like, I mean, he has a talent. We have to see the productivity out of that. The next piece that's going to be removed is definitely going to be your head coach. Okay. Somebody else might jump in grab him. That's right away. I think ten teams would hire Kevin O'Connell tomorrow. It's the Fanski. Yeah. Kind of like the Fanski. I definitely believe he would be a hot market for Kevin O'Connell. But he's the next thing that gets unplugged. Yeah. We saw a little shall make tournament. I was like, you saw me, Germans heard it like a DC's gone and it switched the OCs like, buddy, you're next time. Yeah, sure. And Brandon Beans like, well, no, it's looking around. Kyler Murray is a great backup plan though. You thought you were stuck with Jay J. McCarthy. Yeah. Now you get Kyler Murray. Top ten Tuesday. We did top ten winners earlier in the show. Now it's time for top ten duds of free agencies. People teams concepts. That's right. What? Yeah, people's teams. We're in a lot of same losers. People's teams and people teams. I've heard of this show. It's a rich tapestry. Yeah, that's so true. That's so true. So coming in at number 10, this one's pretty self-explanatory. Baker Mayfield. Even if I supported not giving Mike Evans that contract and reallocating resources from offense to defense, Baker is still thrown 27 touchdowns to Mike Evans since he's been a buck. The next most is nine. So I like a Buka a lot. But this is going to be a significant adjustment for Baker, for box fans, for the city of Tampa. Like he's been an institution there. So Baker Mayfield, a dud of this free agent class. Coming in at number nine, Vic Fangio. Maybe the best offensive coordinator in football still has a ton of talent. Jalen Carter. Davis. Campbell. Bond. Cooper Dejean. But when you lose, blanket ship your captain. You lose Nicobie Dean. You lose Jalen Phillips. And last year you lose Milton's. At some point, the damn breaks on how much talent you've lost on that side of the ball. Still have a lot of talent there, but you are going to be asked to do more with less. And as Greg said earlier, in Howie Rose, when you trust. Coming in at number eight, Michael Panic's Jr. Even though I think he would win a competition with Tuah. It's a new coach. It's a new GM. It's a new president of football operations. So none of the infrastructure that drafted you with a first round pick is there. They clearly either had questions about your talent or your ability to stay healthy. That they rushed to sign Tuah and bring them in. Tuah is going to get all the offseason reps as you recovered. And you've played in 12 games. And in six of them, you've completed less than 60% of your passes. So it's not like you've shown a ton that you're going to be the guy. He all of a sudden in your three finds himself smacked out in the middle of a good old fashioned quarterback competition. Coming in at number seven, my friend and our leader, Kevin Wildes. What did I do? Now here's Romeo Dobs. You got Romeo Dobs? That's why you... He's six four. I heard he was six four. You lose Bradbury. You lose Tonga. You lose Staphon Diggs. But that's... That's all on the peripheral. You know who hasn't signed? Trey Hendrickson. Which means Trey Hendrickson is still a story. Which means it's still a topic. Which means we still get to debate Trey Hendrickson on the show call every day. Which is Wildes' least favorite part of the day. We've just done a tremendous amount of stories on Trey Hendrickson. And he is still on the Bengals. Or maybe not, but he's still... No, no, no. I don't know. He's still out there. He could be a Trey Hendrickson. He's still out there. Two years now. So it's still a conversational topic. Which drives Wildes crazy. I would love to have Trey Hendrickson on the show. It'd be like seeing a huge... He's not doing what I'm asking. Yeah, let's get him on. Get him on. Coming to number six, similar logic to number nine, Steve Spagnolo. I know the argument out of Kansas City is, what we just develop corners. That is not easy to do. They have lost a tremendous amount of secondary talent. This free agency, lots of the Rams. One of the best organizations in football is like, oh, you want to give us Trent McDuffy? We'll make him the highest paid corner in football history of the returning players on the Chief Stephthtag chart right now in their secondary. They have nine total starts. There's not a lot of experience there in Kansas City. So Steve Spagnolo is going to be asked to do a lot with a little. Coming to number five, Aaron Rogers. Apparently he's got no new contract. I listen to him on Mac, but he's like, there's no contract in front of me. I got nothing to sign with. They go out and get Michael Pittman Jr. I don't love Pittman as a player. Don't love him as a fit. Next to DK Metcalf. I don't think Minnesota is about to call for Aaron Rogers. So it's either retirement or Pittsburgh, but apparently they're not calling. And I don't think there's enough reinforcements coming for them. They're spending a ton of money at the receiver room but not getting a lot of production. Number four, Jerry Jones. Where's the splash, Jerry? Jaylen Thompson for 33 million as a safety. Nice player, but you said you were going to break the budget. This is the biggest contract he's given out since Brandon Carr. Back in 2012, they missed out on Max Crosby. They haven't spent at the top of the market. Ray Hendrickson's calling. I expect a number seven. Ray Hendrickson maybe. Maybe he goes in. I gotta be honest. I'm gonna put Wildson and List at number seven. This one pains me a little bit. I'm coming in at number three. I put myself on the list. Listen, the Bears free agency's been fine. Kobe Bryant, nice player, but it means they're gonna lose buyer. It means they're gonna lose brisker. I got serious questions about the Bears. And I'm trying to make this whole national TV thing work. And I'm not saying I need the Bears, but they've won the offseason the last few years. The Bryce Young trade. Yeah. The Caleb Williams selection. The Ben Johnson higher. They've been the offseason champs three years in a row. Yeah, now it's just like maybe Ben Johnson takes a shirt off at a black hawk scheme. Right, like if this is gonna be a good visible game. If this is gonna be a quiet locked in on that beat. If this is gonna be a quiet Bears off season, I don't love that. For me personally, I gotta be honest. Coming in at number two. LeBron James. Next real biased. Okay, I don't like next bias with where I was put on Michael Jordan on the list. LeBron, we'll do it at this free agency class. He's a Browns fan. Big yikes for the Browns. Titus Howard at 45 million. Zion Johnson at 49 million. Zion Johnson. Former charger. That offensive line wasn't good. 49 million dollars. I don't like that at all. And his other team is the Cowboys. Jerry Jones is already on the dud list. Tough, uh, tough free agency period. No, the dud list is. Oh, the dud list is coming up. These are the top 10 duds for you. It is a list. It's a list of duds. Yeah, it's tricky. It's complicated. And coming in at number one. Lamar Jackson. Okay. Times yours, Lamar. You have a new head coach. You have a new pass rusher. Your number one on number one Raven fan. Chris Brasard's S-Bob list. And you're supposed to perform at an MVP level. You're coming off the year where you just got sacked more than you've ever been sacked before in terms of sacked percentage. And you just lost a three year consecutive pro-bola at center and Isaiah likely. I don't. Yes, Max Crosby makes you better. I like the higher at coach, but for you specifically, pressure's on. Tough free agency period for Lamar Jackson. Oh, yeah. Brue, I assume. Perfect. Not dud list. Not bad. Thank you. Not bad. And wilds are like this. The one guy would add. Trey Hendricks. I mean, seriously though, Trey Hendricks is a obviously very good player. I wonder does, you know, you just hear the reports he's asking for some astronomical amount of money. We just saw Jaylen Phillips get 30 million a year. We just saw Daniel Hunter get 40 million a year. Does Trey just throw it out there? Does he have an inflated idea of his value? Teams obviously didn't count on him. Now, the Cowboys are still there. I mean, they've even done a few things, but I just wonder what is going to happen? And is he going to get hurt where in a situation where a lot of the money is spent? And some of the teams that needed that position or wanted that position have already gotten somebody. Whether it was for more or for lesser, like, I just wonder what in the world is going on. This feels like what is happening with him and Cincinnati is now happening with him in the whole league. So I don't know. I hope he gets his money. I didn't like the way they did him in Cincinnati, but this is odd. I think he's going to go to Tampa, but yeah, he probably will be one of those guys that throw a bunch of it. It's just like perennially disappointed with the long-term contract and the long-term guarantees. He's probably going to have to sign a shorter deal than he would like. Look, I think the dud list or the top 10 dud. Duds of free agency. It's pretty good. Spags, I would actually move up. Really? I would move because of what they lost. Like, a large part of what makes his defenses work and, again, he's been brilliant. But when he can dial up that blitz and you still have a Jalen Watson, a Trent McDuffy that can man up and Brian Cooks in the back end that has been solid for you back there, you trust the communication isn't going to break down. We will have exactly what we need to cover us. You don't have that anymore. And I know you had a signing for safety and you got a detackle. But where's your secondary? Where's your corners that are going to be the Trent McDuffy that are going to even be the Jalen Watson? Like, this defense is going to look drastically different. When you are asking your corners to blitz the way that McDuffy can come off the corner and reach wreak havoc and then cover the way that they do at the same time, that is not easy to replace. And so it will be interesting to see how they recover from those losses because it's your entire secondary. Quite literally. Literally. Yeah, they're entire secondary. He's amazing. He's maybe the best defensive coordinator football. But a lot of question marks. Excellent top 10 dudder list. Thank you. Remember that? That was excellent. Alright, coming up next on First Things First, Over Time Willie Cologne joins the show. Talk about how dangerous the Steelers can be and his Aaron Rodgers going to be under center. That's next. So almost another two two. It's found into the gloves for strike three. He strikes this game with a strikeout. He gets Kirk back to back K's eight pitch to Gonzalez. The three two are Rosarena and he strikes him out on the outside corner. As advertised. So that's four innings from ball schemes. Just a clean seven strikeouts, Willie. No big deal. I don't know if you've ever seen the Twitter account pitching ninja. Where they like do like the overlay of the pitches and show where the ball ends up. His with his four seam fastball. Yeah. Change up and sinker. Where it all comes from the exact same release point. But like one ends up down here. One ends up up here. And one ends up there. And they're going 97, 99, 92. Like he's the best pitcher in the world. He, I mean, ridiculous. Like they called it. He was as advertised. I think for anybody that watched that game after the third in, things got a little shaky for USA. And I was worried. I mean, even Mexico, you have the manager. I forgot his name. It's gave me. It was like, we see them again. We got them. So if USA talking a lot. Yeah, you came out of this game, but it wasn't shaky when they left. Yeah. He is a bad band man. But because of the pitch count. I think, can't, can't just ride in the whole way. And the pirates would be pretty upset about that as well. But check out the game tonight. It gets Italy on FS1. Let's go to Pittsburgh. All right. So the Steelers got Michael Pittman Jr. from the Colts. Late round pick swap. Not a huge commitment there. But then they gave him a three year, $59 million deal. Pittman last year has 784 yards of seven touchdowns. Of course, there's always the tie-in to if this is something that Aaron Rogers would want. How it's going to impact his potential return. It's Willie's team, but Greg's position. Greg, we'll start with you. I'm thinking you might be have some strong Michael Pittman feelings here. How dangerous do you perceive Pittman to be with Rogers in the Steelers? I don't think they're dangers at all. Okay. I don't like the combo of Michael Pittman Jr. and DK Metcalf. When you look at if Aaron Rogers is your quarterback and knowing he has to get the ball out of his hands right away. Michael Pittman Jr. is not a yak guy, meaning get the ball in his hands quick and then he makes something happen. DK can do it because he plays bully ball. He can beat you up at the line. He's not neither one of them are great releasing off the line the scrimmage. Yes, he's a possession guy. More of a deep threat, 50-50 guy. Obviously DK is a lot faster. He provides you the same thing. I'm a custom and Willie, you can speak a little bit more than it is. From the receiver standpoint, the Pittsburgh Steelers have always viewed them as one of those teams that evaluates the receiver position very well. They've always found a way to find a diamond in the roof and not necessarily even a diamond in the roof. Like Santonio Holmes years back and then Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, those types of receivers that can do everything. That has the speed that can run the complete route tree. That when if you ask them to catch and go with the ball, they can do all of those things. I just don't see that with the acquisition of Michael Pittman. He provides you something, but I don't see the value and how it can directly impact and add to the problems that they had last year. What was the calculated move? It was a late round swap. He's 28 years old. His best years made behind him. I think two years ago he was that guy. I don't think he's that guy. But he's a legit number two in what you need and it's still our office. I also think if you're in a Rogers right now, you just need adults you can rely on. You need a DK, you have a solid number two in him, you need somebody on Sunday you can rely on and show up. He is a possession receiver. I get that. But I think if you're the stillers right now, you realize even with Aaron Rogers in the office and Valle, he elevated the office, it wasn't enough. You need pieces to win with and they still have a lot of room to make work. So going to the draft, you can draft, there's still some keep pieces out of free agency you can win with. I think it was just a peg that they felt like they needed to add to this office. I don't say bring in Aaron Rogers, but I think they can build upon. I mean, this age enough is a win for them. So they clearly needed something. Yeah, right. They needed another pass catcher and this is another pass catcher who was an NFL caliber player. I tend to agree with Greg in terms of the fit, but also, and this is maybe just because I could not play offensive line in the NFL. I could not get, I also try, I think more about the sport through the general manager lens. And they're not getting great return on investment for what they're spending. Yeah. And I understand the calf is going up and I understand supply and demand. There were not a lot of receivers here, but in terms of spending on wide receivers, which one of these teams doesn't belong? Because those are the top three spenders against the cap this upcoming year at wide receiver. And if we were going to do a conversation of like, what's the best wide receiver duo in the NFL? The middle team, the Steelers would not be in that conversation. But Jamar Chase and T Higgins, yes, in the conversation and maybe the answer. Yeah. CD Lamb and George Pickens would be in the conversation and maybe the answer. Steelers wide receivers last year, 29th in yards, 31st in catches, 30th in targets. Now I understand that's last year's production and now I'm talking about next year's spending. And Pittman wasn't there for last year. But it's just, I don't see a world where DK and Pittman produce anywhere near the level at which they are spending and paying them to produce. Well, I disagree. It's a win. You're paying Pittman what, 24 million? I mean, that's a win in their eyes and they're going to extend them, right? So for me, he's a serviceable receiver. Is he as dynamic as George Pickens and CD Lamb? Or Jamar Chase and T Higgins, no. But what they have right now, he's serviceable and he can still win. Like I said, once again, he's 28 years old. He's not a third to your receiver where acts to be a legit number two. In this offense, they still have to figure out since the let go, John Smith, can they get another possession receiver? That could be a big for them. In a run game, why not? They just acquire Rico Dottle. That's big. So you now you have Rico and Jalen Warren. They possibly can get another left tackle. So for them, it may not make sense to the outside world, but for what they have and what they can spend with. This is a perfect move for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So I like to move. I don't, I don't, everybody else may hate it, but I like it. All right, let's go to Philadelphia here where they are just doing the subtraction thing, honestly. And that is, again, it all comes back to money this time of year with the free agent's money. It's a motivation for a lot of things. So they have said goodbye to Jalen Phillips. He got a cool 120 million from Carolina. Read blank in ship. They're defensive captain. Kobe Dean, big locker room presence, a huge snap percentage, as a linebacker. And then of course, Johan Dotson on day one. So that's a lot of departures, Willie, with not a lot of additions thus far. Should Eagles fans be concerned? Well, I would tell Philly fans to do something that they used to hear in that's trusted process. Right? Like, this is what they do in Philly. Trust the process. You got to understand Jalen Phillips contract. I think it was too much for them stomach. They let them walk. You talk about Nicolby Dean. He was injury prone. They let them go. They was also prepared because they had Jaheek Campbell out of Alabama to kind of fill them right away. You also got to talk about losing Johan, Johan of Dotson. I may be chopping up his name. I apologize. I thought so. He seemed like he can never find his footing within the offense. They let him go. And re-blankership for me is the one that hurts the most solely because I thought he was the glue to that secondary. A lot of Cooper to be Cooper. And the young man with McHale, the Quenna I met you. Quenna I met you to be him. Never the less man, they have non-draft picks. And how are you, Roseman? This is his time of year. He doesn't lose his time of year. So I felt like with everything that they have lost, they were prepared for the loss and they'll be ready to go and free agency in the draft. Yeah, I'm a willy on this one. Look, trust the process. How are you, Roseman? He deserves and he's earned the opportunity for fans and even us who aren't Philly fans. So give him the benefit of the doubt because he has consistently built a competitive roster year in and year out. Yeah, more than competitive. Yeah, like a Super Bowl contending roster. What I would say, like in terms of re-blankership, like I feel you on that one because he, I mean over 90% of their snaps, he was always on the field. There was only two other players that played more defensive snaps than Blank, which was Zack Bond and Cooper DeGene. The others, you mentioned Jordan Phillips. He didn't produce, had he produced and I know pressures are important. But pressures and sacks, when you talk about the group of guys that he's mixed in with in terms of pressure rate and pressure percentage, with Will Anderson, Nick Bonito and Micah Parsons and then there's obviously Jay with the pressures and they get the pressures and they get the sacks. And so it had he done that, I believe that they would have shown interest and you know what, maybe we can live with this. But with them having such a deep defensive line, specifically in that interior, and we can go find somebody that can rush the passer. So this is one of my specialties. Two things can be true. Like you guys are, I mean how are Rosemons, maybe the number one pick, right? Less need, Brett Vee, Chowry Rosemons. Like he's on the short list for best general manager in football and Eagle Stan should trust the process. And I will even take it a step further, like you can't even make any sort of allegation of they don't spend. Yeah. They paid Zack Bond. You know, obviously they've paid, say, Quon, they've paid AJ Brown, they've paid Lane Johnson, they've played Jay with her spins. They spend, they spend, they spend cash, they spend to their cap limit, all that, they spend. So at some point you have to make choices. Last year they chose not to pay Milton Williams, price of doing business. This year you pay, choose not to pay Jaylen Phillips, price of doing business. I'll concede all of that. But at some point there is a straw that breaks the camel's back of just like, that's a lot of talent to leave. The draft is, yes, it is his specialty. And yes, how he roseman hits on it more often than not. But he also has misses. He could have taken Justin Jefferson. He did it. Right? You know what I mean? I know, but he took a, it was, it was nailer, right? Yeah. He took a receiver and then, and it's still like, everyone has misses. So all of a sudden, if you're like, well, how he's just going to re-restock the cupboard, sometimes you don't. And so if it's a couple of off-season of departures, and then you have one of those off-season of bad luck, regression to the mean, whatever the case may be, like, it's just a lot of talent to leave in a short period of time. Yeah, but I think the biggest issue for him right now is how can I get this old line up and running, right? Like he has to get the money. That is a big issue. He has to go into the draft and draft some big uglys that can really help Jela hert out. And maybe on top of that, he's also going to have to figure out, man, what's the deal with AJ Brown? That's a lot of issue. That's a lot of logic, sir. So I like Howard Roseman. He doesn't miss. And I think everybody that we just mentioned is what it is. I've been looking forward to talking to Willie Cologne about Geno Smith, the phone guy who's Jets. You know everybody else. Oh, they have been covered in debt. And I don't know how he's going to put lips to the cup. But I cannot wait to find out. The World Baseball Classic continues as Team USA takes on Italy. It's the final game of group stage tonight, 9 o'clock Eastern. We can't wait. Right here on F.S.1. All right, let's head down the street. Geno Smith is a Jets. Geno and the Jets. Again. Let's run it back because it worked so great the first time. Let's see the trade details here. The Raiders trade Geno and a 7th to the Jets for a 6th. So not exactly the largest compensation that we've ever seen. But you know, he is ready to go. Diana Rossini, front of the show. Already in Jersey, already at the Jets facility, taking his physicals to this trade is official. Willie, where a Jets. Covered the Jets. I was actually a Jets with his rookie year. Okay, so you came in. You played with Geno Smith. How are you feeling, buddy? How should Jets fans feel? Listen to me. Jets fans shouldn't hate to move. You might hate the memories, right? You might hate the memories, but you shouldn't hate the move. The Jets needed a competent quarterback. The needed competent quarterback play. I covered his team. I watched his team. Like Jets fans get to turn it off. I can't turn it off. It's a part of my job. So I have to watch all four quarters for the last umpteen years of back quarterback play. And all the drama that comes into it. I'm sorry. So thank you. But I would say this is Geno's growing up. He's a competent quarterback. He lands in Vegas. We all know how deficient the rate is where a lot of what he went through in Las Vegas isn't his fault. But if you're the Jets right now, it's hard to evaluate the talent around you when you're not great at one position and not being a quarterback position. When Justin feels that everybody behind him has failed, it's hard to see what you have in the receiver room. It's hard to see what you have at the runner-back position or the title position. Now you have a quarterback that could, a quarterback excuse me, who can stabilize the offense and you have an OC with a very good resume in Frank. Right? And you have a head coach and Aaron Glenn, who can simply focus on the defense and we can figure out what his superpower is. So I think it's a great move for the Jets. I think Jets fans are like, oh, I don't want to hear about it. My quarterback, you know, getting punched in the face at part two type thing. You know, Geno's an adult. He's a great, he's a solid quarterback. He would be great this year. I think he's great this year. Well, I mean, as far as being a bridge quarterback, is he going to be Stafford? No. Okay. Excuse me, American. But I think he's exactly what the Jets needed. The Jets got better. It's simple. I'm willing on this one. Look, is that not damning with Faint Praise? Is that not clearing the lowest possible bar? It may be. So prior to Sam Donald, doing what he just did and having the run that he had specifically this year, because no one was ready to say, yeah, Sam Donald is the face of the resurrection projects at quarterback. Yeah. Prior to what he just solely did in year one with the Minnesota Vikings. Geno Smith was that guy? The Seattle. In Seattle. He was the guy. He was that guy that we were comparing the Sam Donalds to. Well, he can be Geno Smith. No, this is a three. He can be Baker Mayfield. The three years before last year, 2022 through 2024. A fourth in yards, eight touchdowns, third in completion percentage. He's better than what he was last year for the ring. No doubt. And to Willie's point, like a large part of what we saw in experience out of Geno, I'm not. I'm not. Nobody is. I'm not removing him from playing. But it was back when you have when you have eyes on your face, mechanics kind of go out the window. You start doing things that are uncharacteristic. But in terms of him coming back full circle and he said that in his tweet, it's cool to see a guy who understands, man, I had an opportunity coming out of college being drafted by this organization, having high expectations of myself, them having high expectations of me. And it didn't work out. And now I'm a completely different individual. I'm much more mature, have the experience. I'm a better player, better individual. Now I get to come back to the organization that allowed me this opportunity to play in this league and drafted me initially to get them jumpstarted in the right direction. We know he's not the long-term answer. We know that. But to get them headed in the right direction, this is nostalgia. And lastly, listen. No, no, I'm interested in the go ahead. Well, he's also making a little buff vet minimum, right? So the jet's right. So he's not breaking the bank. He's not hurting the Justin on top of that. Being on that team in 2013, I'm going to tell you one. We were the second youngest team in the league. And two, the Justin didn't have anything around Gino Smith to help Gino Smith. I'll outside the office of line. And we had really, we had a solid run-up back. But receiver wise, we didn't have anything. So Gino, you think this is a good situation though to walk into? Like, I think, yes, it's not great. But for where he is in his career. And out of, if you had looked through the free agent class of quarterbacks, for the jets, this is the best pickup. Because you're getting Kyle Murray off of foot injury. You're not going to take on what Kurt Cousins has brewing. You're talking about to it. He's a concussion away from being out of this league. Like, right now, if you're to New York Jets, you landed a quarterback who's competent, stable, and who wants to be back into your. So my theory is Gino just wanted to go anywhere he would play. And he's even willing to go back to New York. Because I don't think that Gino had this offer in Pittsburgh. I don't think he had this offer in Minnesota. I don't think he had this offer in Arizona. I think he had this offer in New York. And he's like, I've only, I'm 35 years old, but I've only started 98 games in my career. There was a five-year stretch where I played in seven games. Like, I want, so I think he would have taken this, and ended up being a trade. But like, he would have done anything to be a starter. And that's okay. But I would just say, go into it with reasonable expectations. But I don't think he's that easy. Because I don't think you're going to get Seattle version of Gino Smith. I think the Jets can't do that. The list of the fourth in yards and third in completion percentage, eighth in touchdowns. Well, they don't want that. That is not happening. But not just about the Jets having a top 10 office line. Great just pointing out. We couldn't see Seattle Gino Smith because we got the Oakland Raiders. The Oakland Raiders. The Los Vegas. 31st in the All-North offensive line. They couldn't pass protect. They couldn't run black. They were deficient. In any area you want to put your finger on. So of course, we didn't get Seattle Gino Smith. Now you're getting Gino with a chip on the shoulder, with a really good young offensive line. I run it back in the receiver and core. Now you have an office with a really good OC. So yeah, I expect Gino to be better. And maybe a resurgence of a Seattle Seahawks Gino Smith. Look, I like it for the Jets. I like it for Gino. And I disagree in terms of he didn't have the opportunity because it was a trade. Like, I do believe that if Pittsburgh wasn't so stuck in the Aaron Rogers world of we want Rogers, we want Rogers, they would show inch. I believe that they would show interest in Gino. The Vikings, obviously Kyla Murray is available. And he will be available. So that is what it is, Arizona. But I do believe there was a market out there for Gino Smith. The Las Vegas Raiders just happened to not have to release him and got something for him prior to doing that. I mean, a six-round peg. They got something for him. Yeah. Listen, again, I refer Gino to. I thought this would sound like it. Hold on. I thought the Seattle resurgence was amazing. And it was not a pleasant experience for Gino in New York. Who you're talking about? That's what I was saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I am a hard time believing he's like, yeah, I really want to go back to all that toxicity. But it's a different. It's just this was the opportunity that he had to play NFL. It's a different organization. Different organizations, different pieces, totally different locker rooms. It's the Jets, man. That part is the same. It's the Jets. It's the Jets. It's the Jets. It's the Jets. You have Jets. It's the Jets. All right. Tonight, the USA takes on Italy. It's the final game of group stage. Of course, you can catch it at 9 o'clock right here on FS1. So the US defeated Mexico last night. It was a good game. It was competitive. Mexico had the time run on late. So there's three in O. Team USA is to start the WBC. They've been dominating so far as you can see. 29 runs scored. Pretty good. In three games. It's a bit above average in baseball. So again, a heavy favorite. You don't see the five and a half spread run line very often. Willy, but are you expecting Team USA to dominate Italy tonight? They got to be calf rule. Italy could turn us into a street fight. So they have to be calf rule. They've been, you know, some judges been great. Rally's been great. They got the young stud. Nolan McLean from the Metz. He's going to be on the mound for them. But Italy could be sneaky dangerous. Listen, Mexico almost walked them down last night. Yep. Jaren DeRan had two bombs in that game. And they just didn't have enough on the mound. The USA was able to recover. But it could be a good one. So I always, when I'm going to talk about baseball. That's a kind of upset happens. Yeah, it's basically. But I mean, baseball is such a weird game. That one guy gets hot. One guy makes a mistake. You drop one ball like anything can happen. But this team is. Their lineup is over. It's overwhelming the offensive power. Watch it tonight on FS1. We're back tomorrow.