My In-Laws Are Ruining Christmas (Help)

My in-laws always want to talk about politics and current events when we get together. How can we set boundaries and keep the conversations civil over the holidays? What do you guys do? Well, we, because both of my parents are gone. And so... Wow, way to bring down a room. This is Christmas Eve, Kelly. Jeez. Ho, ho, ho, it's Christmas Eve. Why are you listening to this podcast right now? You should be eating too much, hanging out with your families, or like millions of people hiding in a closet at a relative's house you don't want to be at listening to a podcast. I'm glad that you're here. I wish you weren't here, but I'm glad that you are here listening to the show. This is our annual Christmas Eve Christmas-ish around that day. Ask me anything AMA, where Kelly, 1.0, Grandma Kelly and the gang have curated a whole bunch of questions and they're going to just drop them on me and we're going to have a good time. Kelly, you guys all look festive back there. Thank you. What? This is my festive Christmas shirt. Your best, most specialist black Christmas shirt? I picked the most specialist black Christmas shirt out of my closet. This makes me feel Christmassy inside. All warm and fuzzy. So stupid. Oh my gosh, look at this. There's so much Christmas decor. Or as Starbucks calls it, what do they call it? I don't know. Holiday day. Holiday, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, they don't say Christmas. What? Well, Merry Christmas everybody. Happy holidays. Whatever thing will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. We're glad you're here. All right, Kelly. So let it rip, I guess, huh? How do you want to kick this off? Amrit? Well, I've got a bunch of questions I'm going to ask you. And then you can choose if you want to just answer them yourself or if you want to make it an all skate. Are those your devil horns? They're reindeer antlers. I feel like everyone gets to see what- They light up. Look at that. I'm afraid I'll give you a seizure if you have to watch that. That's fair. So. That's fair. All right, you ready for the first one? In case you're wondering, this is what I see in my mind when I look through the glass and she's glaring at me. I just see the horns go, they grow up. I think you should wear these all the time. It's Christmas. We're being friendly and nice. Oh! All right, go for it. All right, first question. Now, these were sent in from our listeners, by the way, we did an ask on social. Okay. All listener questions. Okay. My in-laws always want to talk about politics and current events when we get together. How can we set boundaries and keep the conversations civil over the holidays? I got this from my wife and it's the greatest thing ever. We send an email about what our travel plans are and then I put in the email. She sent it the first year to teach me how to be a grown-up. This was not that long ago. Now, I will put in the email things we will not talk about and I put it in there. So during COVID is like, we will not talk about COVID. We will not talk about, I don't know, whatever conspiracy theory. A couple of them are fun, but not these conspiracy theories. We're not going to talk about blah, blah, blah. We're not talking about politics. At least I got to give my family credit. I've seen somebody or I've experienced somebody launches into something and then another person polices it and they're like, no, John, so we're not talking about that. And they all look at me and you know what? I don't care because we're not talking about that. So that's the big thing is I always want to give people, I want to know that I was clear, not just like you've heard me say this, not just cast somebody in a movie that they don't know they're in and they get mad at them for saying the wrong lines. Often when I go to holidays or any kind of thing, I have this way this is going to play out in my head and it doesn't and then I get mad that they didn't act right. So I like to just take full ownership of it now. And if they want to say if I had a family that was like, if you come to my house, I can talk about whatever I want to, then I get to be grown up and not go to that house. But that's how we handle it in our house and it has worked to my family's credit all around. And by the way, my family and I, we all vote different. We all have different opinions on whether somebody actually landed on the moon, whether essential oils work or not. We have all kinds of different opinions and they've been pretty amazing about sticking to that. That's great. What do you guys do? Well, we, because both of my parents are gone and so. Way to bring down a room. This is Christmas Eve, Kelly. Jeez. All right, go ahead. Mercy. So I for Thanksgiving, we get together with my in-laws. And then for Christmas, we do Christmas at our house, usually just us. That conversation I can at least control. But no, there's not a lot of control at my in-laws house. So I just drink a lot. No, but it is a time sometimes that I wish that I could or that I still did. No, I just usually move rooms, you know, because there's always, I mean, there's like 25, 30 people there. So I'll just like ease my way out of the conversation. And what's, I mean, we all typically vote the same. We all tend to fall on the same side, but I just get tired of it. I'm like, I just don't want to talk about this anymore. And so I just kind of meander elsewhere or let my son say, hey, mom, you want to go for a drive? He has to do. Yes, I do. Yes. And by the way, this is a, this is a. This is me being a coward. This is me being weak. This is me preemptively coming up with a strategy. And I this is all the way back to when I worked with my college students. My wife and I intentionally, I do not tell her who I vote for. And she does not tell me who she votes for. I'm pretty sure I know and she's pretty sure she knows, but we do not say it. So that when I was with my college students, I could say, dude, my wife doesn't even know who I vote for. I'm not telling you. And when I'm with my family and they're like, right, right. And I tell them my wife and I don't talk about politics. We don't talk about candidates or who did what. And so I'm not talking about that with you. And that is a very intentional thing that we do in our house. And so, yes, I could be like, I'm standing on my ground. I'm not, I'm not. That's a personal decision for me. So there you go. All right. Question number two. My wife invites her family from out of town to stay with us for a week. How do I keep my sanity with all of these people in the house? Your sanity begins way upstream in September. When you all start talking about the holidays, not waiting till December, you start talking about it. It's just in September, saying, hey, let's have a, this is let, let's ask ourselves this question. How do we want the house to feel during the holidays? Well, I want it to be full of laughter and fun and family and cool. What about you? Laughter and family and fun and cool. Great. How do we get there? And you have to have the courage to say the last few years, your family stays a week. And after day three, I feel like they don't want to be here. You struggle. I struggle. What would it look like if we did for three days this year? And then you and I went on a weekend retreat to, or a weekend getaway to like, whatever, something like that. But it's having that conversation way before we get there. If none of that works. And she's like, nice try. Bucco, my family's coming for the whole week. They have, and they always will, whatever. Great. Then you get to be a grown up. And by the way, just suck it up. It's a week. Good grief. Just roll your eyes when you're falling. I almost talked about what it like, it's fine. Or like you said, go on drives, plan a hunting trip, pick up, but I don't know, whatever. Like, oh, I got it. I told you last year when y'all were getting with family, Kelly, if there needs to be a podcast emergency, just text me and I'm there. I'll show up for you. Yeah. Sometimes I have to run a lot of errands. Correct. A lot of unexpected errands. That's part of it. And by the way, it happens every year. So if every year you're surprised that you're in a bad mood again, that's on you. It's going to happen if it's going to happen. So be a grown up about it. Have some fun or come up with some things to do. Take the kids to the movie or whatever. So it's just doing that. It's just choosing. I'm not going to. I'm going to do things to not be miserable here. All right. Question number three. Top five Christmas movies. Die Hard. That answered my next question. Is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Followed by Die Hard. Actually, nope. I'm going to air it. Slap it up, flip it and reverse it. My number one Christmas movie of all time. Without a doubt, there's not even a close second. Not even a close second. The Nightmare Before Christmas by Tim Burton. Number one. I went to see that in the theater with Melissa Daly. Back in the day when I was in ninth grade. I love that movie. It's the most creative, inventive, wonderful, amazing. All of it is perfect. It's perfect in every way. I love that. Followed by. This is a secret I've never told on the show. One of my dad's childhood best friends, Randy Quaid. They were they were great buddies in high school and they used to pick on this little brother named Dennis Quaid. Kind of awesome. But my so Christmas vacation, obviously, is number two. When Uncle Eddie rolled in and my dad was like, I know that guy. And I would have been like, hey, guys, before we watch this movie, guess what? I know a famous person. That's not how my dad rolls. He's like, I know that guy. And so Christmas vacation followed by Die Hard, Die Hard and then Die Hard. And then whatever romantic Christmas comedy my wife wants to watch. Those are also my favorites. They're not, but they just become my favorites over the holidays. And this year, guess what we're doing? Talking about you get to choose. My wife said that my daughter's nine and she's kind of into these those little like just are you kidding me? Christmas like Hallmark movies. There's like a level below Hallmark. Like Hallmark is like Oscar level writing compared. Is it like Lifetime or I don't know. It's beneath. It's not. No, I guess Lifetime is kind of the porny Christmas ones. This one is like that's I don't. That's a sentence I never want to hear uttered again. Horny Christmas, but just like, like, like, oogie, like Christmas. It's probably Hallmark. That's probably it. Like it's like JV Hallmark, but my daughter's got into him. And so my wife was like, I want to sit on the couch for like five straight days and watch these with Josephine. And I was like, great. Hank and I are going to the woods and we'll provide for this family and y'all do whatever y'all are going to do. So it's going to be great for us. I would rather set myself on fire than watch a Hallmark Christmas movie. I know, even though your romantic life is so like straight from one. No, no, no, that's true. That is true. There's so many jokes I'm not making right now. Go to the next one. I'm so proud of you. Yes, Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Yeah. OK. How is that a debate? The whole things that at Christmas party. I know, but it is. I so Chris Wright, who leads our team, he was a huge Die Hard fan and also guitarist guitarist extraordinaire part of of our band of bands that never win. The sorry, Ben. He had not seen this. I sent him a link and he bought it. There's a advent calendar. That starts on December 1st, and it's Hans Gruber falling down Nakatomi Plaza and you move it down one every day until he hits the ground on Christmas Day. That's a little bit sacrilegious, like struck by lightning. No, it's no. Dear Jesus, thank you for being born and that's fair. It's great though. It is. It's good. All right. Next question, which Grinch movie is the best? And I think we're considering three Grinch movies here. OK. You got the OG, Dr. Sue's cartoon, you got the Jim Carrey Grinch and you got the recent within the past, what, five, six years cartoon with Benedict Cumberbatch. It's like Grinch Lite. It's like the nicer Grinch for little kids. Yeah, it goes in the order you just said them. The OG cartoon followed by I Love All. I just think Jim Carrey is a national treasure and I'm a Jim Carrey fan through and through and then followed by whatever nonsense remake Hollywood did because they have no courage to start new franchises. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Although I would put the Jim Carrey one first. That's fair. It's just such a great movie. It is. But there's something about that one, that weird, abominable snowman and Rudolph show that I watched when I was a kid that's like claymation. Yeah. Those those are just like etched into my. Oh, yeah. We watched the Bumble. It's his name, by the way, the Bumble. But we have a DVD pack tells you how old it is. But it's for you young kids. They used to put YouTube videos on metal, metal discs and mail them to you. That used to happen that way. But alas. But we have it's Rudolph and Frosty and what like Little Drummer Boy and whatever the, but it's a whole set. And my kids, since they were tiny little still every year, we have to watch those. They still, so those are still so still popular. They're the best. Yeah. OK. Last one before we take a break. I know the answer to one of these. Favorite Christmas Carol's and least favorite. I mean, we all know your fave. 100 percent Little Drummer Boy. I think. Few things make me question whether God is real. Then when I hear the Little Drummer Boy come on. And you know what, by the way, I live in Nashville, which is home to the like the St. James family to for King and Country, that whole family. They're awesome. Good. And everybody always is like, yeah, yeah, but what about for King and Country's version? It's pretty awesome, though. You know what? I've seen them play live and they're astounding how good they are. And there's only so much polishing of a steaming pile of dogchotch that you can do. And so for whatever, like they they gave it their good college try. And I love those dudes. They are awesome, great human beings. I love it. And. That song, like when people are like, A.I. is going to take over and destroy humanity. I'm like, well, that's the same group of people that wrote the Little Drummer Boy. So maybe that's what we get. That's what I think about that song. My thought is always, yeah, that's what Mary was looking for. A rumper. Pum, pum. You know, I have a sleeping infant. Please come play the drums. Yeah, let's go idiots. That's the most man thing. Yeah, that's exactly what every mother of a newborn wants. Check out. Hey, lady, check out my drum solo. Plus, dude. Bring a casserole. Do nothing. Stay out in the park and let's smoke a cigarette like it. Like all of our grandad's did. Don't come inside with a drum kit and be like, all right, newborn, check this out. So stupid. Perumpa, pump, pump. That's a terrible song. Still not as bad as Miley's favorite in the world. What is yours? Mary, did you know? Did you know what she knew? She didn't. It's in the Bible. The angel came down and he told her it was a whole thing. Mary knew. Did you know? Did you know you 14 year old young little girl? She knew. You're suddenly pregnant. What? What? She knew. It was a whole thing in the Bible. He told her. That's like the greatest mansplaining song of all time. Did you know? Yes, he told me. I know, but did you like know? Did you really know? Yes. I don't think you really knew. I mean, the angel Gabriel came and told her song pisses me off. All right, let's go to. Oh, favorite Christmas, Carol. What did I say last year? I don't know. I don't know. All right, I'm just going to say the one that's on the top of my of my soul right now. All of the songs, all of them. On the Nightmare Before Christmas soundtrack, I love that soundtrack and but for going to go classics. Up on the house top, reindeer paws. I would jump skilful Santa Claus. That's right. I think you've said that all over the year. I love that song. I love it. I don't know why I just sing it when I'm by myself sometimes even in the summer. I just love it. Makes me feel happy. How it jumps good. Oh, it makes me think of like kind of a little bit overweight, but kind of like a like a fit Santa. He just jumps on out and he's like, hey, right? I don't know. Just makes me think of Santa's like, hey, buddy, I don't know. Have you seen the Christmas Chronicles on Netflix with Kurt Russell? OK, by the way, great, great current Christmas movie. But Kurt Russell is Santa and he's pretty amazing Santa because he's Kurt Russell. So maybe it's that Santa. I will also say this. This is not good for your kids. The movie Bad Santa with Billy Bob Thornton. Hilarious. That is a great movie. Also not good for your children in any way, shape, or form. Fat Man with Mel Gibson. I don't know that movie. Oh my gosh. Is it great? Yeah. Not appropriate. It's it's like very violent, but it's so good. Great Christmas movie. Also Violent Night. Violent Night with David Harbour. The tagline is Seasons Beatings. In case you're wondering, Ben is the reason we have better help as a sponsor. He's not doing great. And one of my favorites is Krampus. Krampus, what's that? Krampus. Krampus. You don't know what Krampus is? Oh, the really cool artsy one. No, Krampus was a demon. Oh, OK, not that one. Yeah. What's the Christmas one that's out right now? We watch it every year now. It's my kid's it's my kid's version of that that Abominable Snowman one that I watched. It's really beautiful. It's artistic. It's a but it's about the kid that gets sent away to be the postman. Oh, claws. Claws. We love claws. What a magical. It is such a great. David Spade is so great as the voice of. It is a magical Christmas show. And then what is it? J.K. Simmons. We watch. Yeah, we watch that with our family every year. We love it. I love it. Also on Netflix, a boy called Christmas. A boy called Christmas. It's delightful. It's wonderful. It's really kind of that same like Nordic feel to it. But yeah, claws is a great, great animated. Claws is great for the family. But I move that up to my number three. Krampus is so back like we're talking like 16, 1700s. I told you all she was old. I hate you. Told you all. The I think the folklore was either that they were brothers or whatever. But it's basically as we call folklore, as she called the Daily News. Go ahead. Seriously, y'all. It was Santa Claus, you know, gave gifts and stuff to good boys and girls. Krampus, who is a looks a little like what, like a demonic goat? Some might say, OK, he would take bad boys and girls, put them in a sack, beat them with a stick and then take them to hell. And parents would use it for like, if you're not good, then this is. But still over in like Austria and stuff, they have like Krampus parades and everything. In case you're wondering, how to kill you in upon the mental health show? Here it is. Ta-da. I've a stuffed Krampus doll. I could see you telling your kids and then Krampus came and stuff the bad kids in a sack and beat them with a stick and take them to hell. You choose kids. Mom. And then your horns grow up. That's awesome. All right. If you're still with us, we'll be right back. I'm super excited to tell you about my newest partners, Cove. 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If that's your in-laws or whatever. Great. You give with your full heart and you give the best you can. And you get to choose to not let those other things get on to you. And that's a choice you make. And it's a hard choice and yada yada. But and if you happen to be in a season of blessing and you're making good money and the rest of your family isn't, don't be that guy. And that's this is the pot talking to Kettle. I've been that guy and I've come over the top like, look at all this gifts I can give everybody. And it ruined it. It ruined it. And because I made Christmas about me, not them. And I'm not doing that. Especially when you give, we've seen this happen before, gifts to like somebody's children. Yeah, totally. That their parents can't. Could never do. They could never do that. That's right. So that's another thing to keep in mind. But if there's a limit set, stick to it. Stick to it, man. And go watch that office episode where Michael Scott gets the iPod and tries to gives it to Ryan. That's so great. So good. But anyway. All right. Next question. How do we handle the first holiday season after the unexpected loss of a loved one? Here's my pitch. And I've seen this work really effective. If everybody can be on the same page, everybody's going to write a small memorial, poem, letter, and then you read it. And you share it because pretending that person's not there is a nightmare and trying to awkwardly navigate. So it's about putting on the table and then giving everybody an action that they can do to participate. And people can say, I don't want to be a part of it, but I'll listen to it. And that's great and good. And if people want to, don't they're like, we're not reading letters. We're not doing that. You know, this is Grandma's house and Granddad passed away. I'm not doing that. Whatever. Great. Cool. You don't have to do that. But getting with one or two with your siblings or with your kids, whatever. But we're going to do a small thing to honor that person who's not here, which is we're going to put on the table. We're going to feel it. And then we're going to enter into the season. Yeah. Like I said, having lost both of my parents and then two years ago, my mother-in-law passed away and she was the matriarch of the family. Everybody loved her. You have to just call it. I mean, you have to be, call it out and not try and do the everything's fine. Everything's normal. We're going to go all the normal stuff. There's a missing person in this. There's a missing person and we're going to tell stories and we're going to laugh. And we're going to try to recreate her cookies and we're going to screw it up and we're all going to laugh about it. And we're going to tell all the fun stories. Remember when she, and there's going to be a lot of tears and a lot of laughter. And just be okay with that. Be okay with that. It's part of it. But don't try to make it all look the same. Yes. Because it doesn't. And then it's just weird for everyone. Yes. And then it's just, it's worse. So just dive right into it. And let me call it that. I'm an over-dramatic guy. I like big, a big gestures, right? So I like everybody reading a story or something about the person or a letter, whatever. It can be as simple as, hey, we're going to round up the family and I'm going to say a quick prayer before our meal. And I just want to say we're all missing, we're all missing mom or we're all missing dad and, or if you're not the praying type, you get in a circle before dinner and everybody's like, Hey, let's, let's give a toast and everybody, let's cheers to grandma's not here. And like, but it's some sort of acknowledgement. All right. I think this one's really interesting. Is it wrong to sell the gifts that you got to get out of debt? If so, or if I do that, do I owe the gift, the person that gave me the gift, any of the money? It's yours. You're a terrible person, but yeah, I sell it. No, I didn't sell it. I'm at yours. It's yours. It's yours. Do you owe the gift or an explanation or like a, Hey, I just want to let you know, especially if it's like, you're, you know, grandma or something. I don't know. I'll call her out on this show. So after, after I, um, my last book, I got everybody who was a part of the, the book, getting out into the world, a nice gift. And I got everybody, like really nice go-rock backpacks. Right. And those are super expensive. And I didn't get a deal. I got bottom. I went bottom and about a whole bunch of them and they were to give out to everybody. Well, my, the person who runs social media for me, who has to be unnamed Lauren, um, she got hers and it's not, it like, it is not a, a feminine thing at all. Right. In no way did this fit her aesthetic at all. Like she's beautiful. She's young. She's like, oh my God. Like getting a go-rock backpack was not her thing. Well, I saw her a few days after that and she's like, Oh my gosh, I had no idea how nice it was. I sold it on like next door or eBay or whatever. And I got this much money and I was like, you do what? And here's the thing. A, I got her a gift she didn't ask for. B, she took that gift and sold it, which I was like, are you serious? You did that? A, it'd be, you told me and C, she used that money for whatever she wanted to. That's her world. That's awesome. And she's still a great friend of mine. So it's like a, it is what it is, what it is. Do your thing. If I think it would be hard if my grandma got me something, I would have a hard time selling that I would. And yet I have a hard time owing people money. So, you know, that kind of thing. You really got out of not answering that pretty much. No, sell it. Okay. Sell it. Okay. And you live with the ramifications of having sold it. So if your grandma bought you a $500 leather jacket that she thinks is so cool that she knew you're going to love and you're like, oh gosh, and you really need $500 to get your car paid off finally. And she's going to ask you, how's that jacket working out? You're going to have to have that conversation because you're not going to lie. I'm not going to tell you to do that. So you get away that. All right. Favorite dish at Christmas. Oh man. You know what I love at Christmas? My favorite thing about Christmas is it takes healthy food. It makes it insanely unhealthy. Yeah. Butter and gravy and all that stuff and do. Yes. Yeah. The things I love. It's as unhealthy as possible. Number one, without a doubt, I love sweet potatoes. And I love them with like a four inch layer of jumbo marshmallows. Okay. So because we do the pecans and brown sugar one, some people do marshmallow. So it's going to ask which one you like. All of that. Whatever ways you can juice up vegetables and make them is take them as far away from their healthy from the ground origin. The other thing I love is the green bean casserole that is green beans. And also, I don't know what they put on that stuff, cheese and cream and pretzels and soup and yeah. It doesn't matter. It's so good. Whatever shenanigans are in that, that makes it almost unrecognizable as this was once in the ground somewhere. Yeah, I love that. I love that. What is your least favorite dish that's always on the table? I am so done with pressed ham. I'll eat it. I'm just, it doesn't look like real. Pressed ham? Like the stuff that's in a can? No. No, we don't eat canned meat. Well, nobody should. You could cue the banjos, Kelly. What do you all eat? Now I'm talking about like the, it's like a. Oh, like a spiral cut? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God, I love one of those. Oh, they're delicious. Especially like a honey baked with that crust on the line. I know, when they're full of sugar, they're delicious. I'm kind of over them. Kind of over them. That was a bad answer. What is your least favorite? Um. My in-laws, there's always, um, like one of their big things that they do is peas, and I hate peas. So. Oh, I got another dish that I love. Jello salad. Oh heck yeah. We do, I make a cranberry jello salad that. It's like candy on the bottom and then pretzels and then just a layer of sugar and then a layer of like. More candy. Yeah. More candy and then jello. Yes. Yes. That's the way Jesus intended us to eat that stuff. All right. Last question for this segment. How long do you have to date someone before you bring them to the family Christmas events? That's a great question. I'm going to go with age on that one. If you're, you know what? I don't know though, because there's always that like 38 year old cousin you have. It's like, I met Janet yesterday and bringing her to Christmas and you're like, well, good. Thanks, dude. But there's like, if you're 28 and you meet somebody and you'll have been dating for six months, of course, we're going to Christmas. If you're 18, don't do that. That's just weird. Because now everyone's like, oh hi. And she's sitting there and her jeans and like tried to dress up nice, but clearly doesn't fit. And you're like, hey, hi. What are you studying? Like, I'm studying molecular biology. You're like, okay, you're too smart for it. Like, I don't know. So I think it's age dependent and. But I don't, I don't know. There's a time on how long you've been dating. What do you think? I don't, I don't know that I have a good answer for that either. I, I'm trying to think. But I also, I love with all my hearts awkward and I love packed full house. You usually bring the awkward. I do. So I also, when someone does roll in with somebody like, who is that? I actually super love that. I don't love it for them because I know how awkward that is for them. But like, oh man, you just made this weird cousin. This is going to be a fun night. So I like that part too. You would. I know. I love it. But I can, I mean, I can remember like my high school college boyfriend and go into their house for Christmas and it's so awkward because you don't know the foods are not the foods you're used to. You don't know their traditions. You don't know the P it's not just mom and dad. It's like. Everybody is a family. Yeah. And they're all, you know, they're all like, oh, I love it. They're all scoping you out. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's so awkward, but it's also what makes it fantastically horrible. And that's the stories you tell. Remember that weird girl that, you know, so, so brought home. Why'd you bring her like, well, we were making out and I thought it'd be good to bring her to Christmas. She's so like, so weird, right? What an unnecessary thing. She didn't want to be here and y'all didn't want her here. So I thought she should come. Like that's just so awkward, man. Then I kind of love it. I'm not kind of super love it, but anyway. Alice is like, I, I also think there's a thing where it flips a younger age. Like if my 15 year old or 16 year old son was dating somebody, I would love for him to bring her like, so there's like a, there's like a gap. Don't bring your weird college boyfriend home that nobody, like, don't do that. But like, if you're a kid, I love that. And if you're older, it's going to be awesome. So I kind of like that too. But I, I, I don't know. I love the awkward of Christmas stuff, of gatherings. Like the fact that we have to get together just simply because somewhere along the way, we had a relative that made it with another relative. And somehow we're, I made that weird, sorry, I shouldn't have said made it like they're kangaroos, but like somewhere along the way, people made humans and we're somehow derivatives of each other. And we have to get together. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. Yeah. All because I went on a date with a guy and fell in love with him. Now I have to go. I'm in your family now. So, y'all don't have a choice. This is what it is. Here's the real question. The real question is, how do you handle divorce? Because if we get divorced, is his cousins still my family? No. If y'all have a kid together. Yes. Yes. Yes. But I don't know that you necessarily holiday together anymore. Not for a few years at least. That'd be weird. I think you show up. I think you show up and embrace the awkward. And speaking of awkward, we'll be right back. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. I want to talk about traditions. Traditions are things you do every week or every year and they can be great. And sometimes they can feel like an obligation. The holiday season is a great time to reflect on holiday traditions, the valuable ones and the not so valuable ones. 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Why are you listening to this? AMA, we're glad you're here. You know, maybe this is someone who needs a minute from the family. I know, I'm actually, I know why you're listening to this. Hiding for a little bit and they're going to listen to this and then they're going to go back. Or, and this is me being honest, so much loneliness is exposed during the season. Right? You don't have people to go hang out with. You're at home and like, man, like you're by yourself. It's Christmas Eve and you're by yourself and you've got to get up and go to work tomorrow, right? And then we're glad to hang out with you. I'm super glad that you're with us. Yeah. So there you go. I'm glad you're here, man. All right. This is our first Christmas as a newly married couple. How do we start our own traditions without alienating our families? Your families don't get a vote. You decide what you want your holidays to look like and then you begin practicing having everybody mad at you and. Welcome to being married. You get to practice. I think a lot of, especially younger married couples have this idea like this is the way you do Christmas. And then you marry somebody and they're like, no, this is how you do the holidays. And it's like, no, this is how you realize, oh, the way we did it growing up was just a way and then you get to make, make your way. I personally think you just have to go through two or three or four years of awkward and I don't like that. And that wasn't fun and that wasn't comfortable and that was awesome. And you got to just navigate that and it will change over time. And you throw kids into the mix and then your parents have a vision of Christmas that they've had in their head for 20 years. And it's they're going to be mad that it didn't come true and yada, yada. But it's just awkward and fun and stretchy and weird and ask yourself, how do we want to feel the day after Christmas and try to reverse engineer that? And half the times you do things and you don't realize they are even becoming traditions until like, I remember my son said that before. He's like, you know, we do this every year. It's like a tradition. I'm like, we did realize that, you know, I just had that the other day. I was, I reached out to a buddy and was like, hey, Hank and I are going to be in town. We'd love to come out to the ranch, whatever. And the response was like, we do this every year. I was like, oh, this is your five. This is a tradition. We've done this five years in a row. This is awesome. So yeah, there's something cool to that. All right. Kind of the other side of the story. This is our first Christmas after the divorce. How do we handle splitting the traditions that our family has created? So, you know, every year on Christmas Eve, we go to Christmas Eve service or we go see Santa. How do you split that with two sets of parents and who gets to be the one that does that? Yes, there's. In a perfect world, you have two people who got divorced who can still act like adults and that really happens. I know. You could say, we want to make sure if you have kids that our kids experience this. That's rare, especially the first year in divorce is usually when one tries both people trying to prove like we're going to have the best Christmas and we're going to make sure. And so it's just it's a messy thing. I think it's up to you to say, I want to make sure my kids have peace and they have laughter and they have good experiences. And to do whatever you possibly can to not use your kids as a competition bargaining chip as a way to prove to them because they kids can't carry that kind of weight and expect to miss some things. You can't keep the same traditions because it's over now. So there's going to be some awkward. There's going to be some tears. There's going to be some grieving, some frustration like the first holiday after a divorce is one of those watershed moments. The same as the first holiday after somebody passes away. It becomes very, very real like it really sits on your heart. And so those are just hard times to make your way through. All right, I have one for the room. OK, ask everybody. What's your favorite tradition that your family has? We'll start with you. I'll go last. You go. My family, we always get a couple of eggnog first time we drink eggnog for the whole season. I love it. I know a lot of people hate eggnog, but like eggnog from the store, like the boardens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I can cash a whole one of it. Dude, I love them. And we'll put up the Christmas tree together. Ornaments, lights, everything. And that's like Christmas music and it's the best. Pretty awesome. Yeah. Ben, the maestro Hill. I would say like for me and my wife, talking about like new traditions, we've been married just four years now, but we started like buying like a big old Lego set and then just like build it together like Christmas Eve or a couple of days before just like a whole project and just and then we kind of like have a shelf where we have like all the stuff that we've kind of built over the past few years and we get to like see it accumulate. So something our families don't do, but we decided one day, hey, this would be kind of fun. It's very cool, man. I like that. I think my favorite that we do is get all wasted around the neighborhood. Yeah. I believe you were the one that has run around the neighborhood doing I've seen things with people's yard ornaments. That is very true. So that's one of my favorite memories of my entire life. Yes, I've seen photos of some of your handiwork. So here's the deal. You can take the reindeer in people's yards and stack them up in a way that makes it look like they are making sweet, sweet love. And one of my favorite memories of my life was my grandfather's was like a World War Two vet, like the one of the most proper. He was an engineer. Everything was to the like he was one of the most amazing guys ever. And my uncle is one of my favorite people in the world is an accountant. There's very proper, very there's a right way to do things. And that's the hardest I've ever seen those two guys laugh at the same I was like, I have to show you all something they laughed until I thought, oh, they might both have a coronary event right here in my house. And it was it's such an amazing anyway. That was the thing we used to do. I haven't done that in years because everyone's got stupid ring cameras now. And they ruined it. But yes, back when I was a youngster doing obscene things with Christmas yard. Decorations was one of my favorite holiday traditions. I remember my dad laughing so hard, I think I wrecked the car. It was so I was like, dad, stop, stop, stop, stop. He's like, what, what, what? And we got out and we ran to somebody's yard and did that. And it was so funny. It was so great. Oh, man. My favorite tradition that we started our we my parents did this. And then we took this on. We don't travel at Christmas. My every Christmas memory I have growing up is in my home. Grandparents might come and some uncles might come. But I spent every Christmas at home. And my children have done every Christmas in our home. And there's been a couple of times we've left the day after Christmas, maybe to go to Texas or whatever. But Thanksgiving we travel, but Christmas is in our house. If you want to come visit, great. If it's just the four of us, great. But every Christmas memory that we have is in our home. And I love that. It just first of all, takes a stress off of that. But that's something that I'm always thankful that we did. I would say the two of three things we have is our family always watches claws together. That's as far back as I can remember. And that's number one. I like I like piling up on the couch in front of a fire and watching a thing. I like that. It just it gives everybody permission just to have a big human pile. And I like have all my chickens there. I like I like that. The second thing is, is no matter whether we have family over, we have a bunch of people over, etc. We like my me and my wife and my two kids, we open our presents under the tree, just us. And I like that. Like that's just our little time together, which is super cool. And then there's always, since I can remember as far back as I can remember, there's always a puzzle out. And it's same. We always have a puzzle. Somebody's always stopping to eat too much and to sit down and put a couple of pieces in. And over the course of the holiday, it's finished. And I just I love it's almost like a home base. Everybody goes and touches it and they can go back and do their stuff. And I love that. We it's funny because we don't do puzzles any other time of the year. But I bought a big because I'm a dork, big board thing. The puzzles go on and then you can move it off the table. And then but yeah, we have about four puzzles. And when one finishes, we just pull the next one out. They're all Christmasy. That's such a Christmas thing to do. Yeah, I love that. What do you think about bearded wonder? We used to always play a big game of a monopoly. And then last year came to a head and there was yelling and fighting. And my mom, being everybody to get along. So this year, we're not doing that. We'll have to find something new. And when do you when do you get married? March 21st. So are y'all doing a thing together this year? This year we are staying here with the craziness of marriage. We're not traveling to her family and we're telling them that. And they want to come here. They can otherwise we'll be here with my family. Dude, what a flex. You're already flexing. You're not even married yet. Dude, that's awesome. Very cool. All right. Next question. So you kind of alluded to this a little bit. Do y'all open your presence on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day? I have fought for years to open one on Christmas Eve and it is Christmas Day. It is always Christmas Day. Now as my son has gotten older and like I might buy him some cool hunting stuff that I need in November. Well, my wife will literally rewrap it and put it under the tree, which I love. I love that too. This year I bought myself something that she's like, yeah, it's fine, but I'm going to wrap that and put it on the tree and you're going to act surprised when you open it. So, but like Christmas morning, good news is you'll forget by then. Of course I will. Christmas morning is like a, it's a sacred time. It's fun. Same with us. Christmas morning. Yeah. One year. I remember my mom let me open something on Christmas Eve. I was a teenager or something and I got to open it in the next day. It was like, I mean, I wish I hadn't opened it yesterday. So, okay. How do you handle this? And this is going to sound very privileged and very bougie and very blah, blah, blah. I don't care. A few years ago, my wife ordered something and it got delayed and didn't come in. And I was at Christmas and I had nothing to open. And I'm embarrassed to say that I was like, huh, and literally I can buy whatever I want for myself. And it wasn't about the gift and wasn't the thing. It was like something about that. But as you get older, you get fewer things. And people don't think about it as much. How do you handle that? Well, I would have like printed out a picture of it or something and then wrapped that. Sure. Because there's just something about opening presents on Christmas morning. Something about it. Yeah. And, but I also remember texting you one Christmas morning, hiding in the bathroom because I had gotten a bunch of baking stuff. And because I loved baking. And my sweet husband, who was like, she loves to bake. And I've viewed it as like a great kitchen lady. You got me a bunch of presents of things that you want me to do for you. Honey, I got you a vacuum and a washing machine and a frying pan. But it was like really nice stuff that I did want. But I just, it hit wrong. And I'm texting you in the bathroom. Like, is it wrong that I've been here crying? But then we had a conversation later like, hey, I'm going to get a vacuum. Hey, I would really like some stuff that I wouldn't buy for myself necessarily or whatever and bless him. He meant nothing by it. So yeah. But yeah, God, that sucks because it's like, you don't get to participate in the fun. Yeah. So here's the thing. If you have a wife that's impossible to shop for because she makes a $1,000,000 or she just is like, I don't need anything. It's fine. Get things anyway. And I don't ever believe your wife. And she says, I don't need anything. Right. But get, get several small things. But just the act of opening a new thing and opening the thing. It's just, it's just, I don't know. I love that. And my love language is give. So that's a thing. But like that is cool. And if there's a hardworking husband in your house, he's like, I'm fine. And you think, oh, he buys whatever he wants anyway or whatever. Get some things anyway. And also bring your kids along so they can start thinking about, you know, and even if you have a nine year old and all they have is $4 in piggy bank, have them bring $1. And like, we're going to buy a gift for, and I think that's a, that's a cool thing. Cause they get to see your face light up and it's cool. We've always done where we'll take a day and sometimes we're going to target, might be the mall or whatever, where I'll take my daughter and we'll buy gifts for my son and my husband. And then we'll like, okay, we're going to meet back at the food court in an hour. And then we switch kids and then, okay, great. Now you go buy, I'll buy this one's for my daughter and let him buy one for his, you know, for his dad. And I've kind of done something like that, that we do. And one year kind of talking about having something to open, I wanted cash because I wanted, I liked to shop with other people's money. Right. Not lying. I love to shop. And if I can do it with somebody else's money, even though with my husband's, it's my money too, but still it's different. And so he ended up wrapping up like individual bills and gift cards in different things. Adam Boy. Or he bought me like a book I liked and there was like 20 stuck in the pages. Adam Boy. And there was a ton of stuff. But that's really thoughtful. Yes. He's very. That's a, yes. He's a pretty amazing guy. Can I answer your question real quick? I'm going to AMA myself here real quick. This is the number one question I get on social media about this topic about Christmas. And I want to end it once and for all. How I wonder, I was about to ask you a question and I wonder if it might be the same one. All right. I'm telling your kids that Santa is real is not lying to your children. Get over it. Relax. Okay. By the way, if your kids are in the room. Oh, sorry about that. Shake it off. Listen, your kids should not be listening to this show on Christmas Eve. In no way should they ever, ever really. But listen, bringing your kids along the ride of a cultural tradition is awesome. It's not lying to them. If they say, Hey mom, I saw the presence in your room is Santa real. And you're like, yes, that's gaslighting. That's lying. But letting them participate in the magic. Our whole culture has sucked every bit of magic and wonder and fun and shared cultural stories out of it. It's not lying. It's just awesome. And the end of, end of AMA rant. Okay. Go, go Kelly. I'm a gift cards, a thoughtful or lazy gift. And I have thoughts. Both elaborate please. It's hard because I love gift cards. But yes, it's a lazy gift. What about, so I've already told my husband because I've lost about 27 pounds. I want to do some shopping. Yes. I want to do some shopping because I need something close. Please don't buy me clothes. Because then I have to have the weird conversation about, Hey, can I get the receipt for that? Give me gift cards. That is my love language. I can go shopping. Yes. Okay. Would it be awesome if he said, I got us a weekend in wherever. And obviously yellow rich, you're the producer of the show. So, so I want to take you on a shopping trip. You're buying clothes. Would that be cool or would that be annoying for you? It would be surprising because I think it would be his version of hell. I know that would make it a pretty amazing. But he did it. That would be amazing because I've always wanted like, I want to know what you think about this. Do you think I look good in this? So I think that'd be great. But I know that's not everybody, but no, but I would love for him to do that. And he would, if I was like, Hey, would you go with me? I need to know your opinion. He would go with me with a smile and never say a word about it. But now if you're just buying somebody a random gift card that they have no idea you, if you like that store or whatever, but you know what, like for the bus drivers and stuff for my daughter, I usually get them these. Yes, that's amazing. But if I've also, this is me, I've been in line somewhere and be like, Oh no. And you can get Amazon gift cards at a gas station now. And I'm like, Hey, look what I got. Like that doesn't feel right. But if somebody, if you know, because Alex and I've had this conversation and I know he is all about gift cards as well, but yeah, I love to shop. Please get me a gift card and get what I want. And I get to go shopping and then give me the time to go do it. Yes. And then we're all happy. I don't want my wife picking out my whatever camo pattern. I think I need that for this year. Oh, actually, I would love to see her do that. It's not great. She calls in my outfits. It's hilarious. Costumes. Yeah. She's like, Oh, are you getting, are you getting on your, on your costumes? To go hunt the animals that are our grandad's hunted in jeans and smoking cigarettes, but you're going to have to like, You have to have a special outfit for it. Special outfit. Yeah. She's awesome. But like, I, yes, I would rather a gift card there and just to go rock and roll. So I think it's both. It's both. Yeah. It depends on the spirit behind it and what, if you know, if you have somebody that you know, they hate gift gift gift cards, don't get them a gift card. Right. Or here's another thing. Life struggles with spending money like on getting a massage or something. So I'll go buy gift cards to a spa and it's like, I've already spent this money. Now I want you to like, so those are, those are awesome. Yeah. My husband paints like paints, paints. And I don't, I don't have a clue what supplies he needs and wants. Yes. And the last year I did, I bought him like a brand new easel and some things like that. But as he was just setting up a studio, but I'll buy him gift cards to the art store. He likes it. He's like a kid in a candy store. Here's the real question about that. Has he ever painted you like one of his French girls? Not yet. No, he's still painting landscapes at this point. So no, let's just go on to the next question. Great present. He can do that as soon as he gets me that humongous. Oh, the heart of the ocean. The heart of the ocean necklace to go with it. Yes. All right. We'll do one more before we go to break. Do you have any weird family traditions that nobody else would understand? Yeah. Oh, we need to know what they are. Well, it sounds awful. Elaborate. It sounds awful, but this is, this is awesome. Our, one of our family traditions is right after Christmas. My wife and I go our separate ways. Like I'll go on a trip with Hank and we'll go on a long hunting adventure. She doesn't want to think about that. So we'll stop with several friends. We'll go several states over. We'll stop along the way, like get our share of Waffle House and whatever, uh, cracker braille, whatever. Like we'll go do those things. And so it feels weird to be like finally as a family, we get to relax together and we're like, all right, peace. And she does her thing, but it's, it's this, it's this awesome. Exhale. And I know that she has been pent up for a year. Like, can I just get away from all you guys? And she loves us, but can I, and I'm like, can I just go spend some time in the woods and more than anything in the world would I love for my wife at 445 a.m. to one in 20 degrees outside to get all bundled up and go hunting with, I would love that. And I'm confident she would love the idea of me loving Hallmark movies and wanting to spend all day eating leftovers, watching show after. And I know that to be true, but we both love each other enough to know that we would both slowly die a slow death inside. And so, yeah, one of our weird traditions is we had separate directions. I don't think that's weird at all. I think anyone that's been married, how long you all been married now? 23. 23. So we're 21 this year that you get that. I hope people get that. Yeah. Because if not, they're lying to themselves. Do you have a weird one? I can't think of a weird one. I know Alex said he does. My family watches Horton Hears a Who around Christmas time because it's on the same DVD as The Grinch. And so we just keep watching and we just end up watching Horton Hears a Who every Christmas. Did that start out of like everyone was in a diabetic coma from all of the eggnog, you all just mainlined and you're like, I don't want to change, you change it. And then we just watched the next movie and suddenly it's a tradition. Yeah, exactly. If I have weird ones, I don't know they're weird, which is probably more disturbing. There was like a 15 or 20 year run of like a family tradition was to go like desecrate somebody's yard. Like T.P. No, like to go mess up somebody's like awesome Christmas decorations and make them inappropriate. I think that's a delightful Christmas. That was a long, that was kind of strange. That was like a thing we all did. We were good people, but that's just too funny. And we take pictures of it and stuff, but that's over now because everyone's got cameras. Yeah, I know that ruined the whole you can't the fact that my kids never got to go to T.P. just breaks my heart. I know it makes me sad, but I know. All right, let's take a break. I love the holidays. Holidays for my family include a lot of travel, a lot of friends, a lot of food and a lot of chaos. It also includes a lot of late nights. And with all of that going on, it can be hard to wind down and get good sleep. And almost nothing feels better than coming home from a week on the road or sleeping on some camp mattress and falling asleep on my Helix mattress. My whole family sleeps at our home on Helix mattresses. And we all love coming home and getting into bed. I even have Helix mattress in my guest room. And when people come over and crash at my house, especially during the holidays, they all want to know about this amazing mattress they're sleeping on. Helix mattresses are that amazing. And here's why Helix makes mattresses for real people, not generic average sleepers. 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All right, this is a very much just for you question. Favorite holiday punk album. Sheesh, Louise. All right, y'all ask for it. Are there holiday punk albums? Well, I'm about to say I reject Christmas albums just as a whole. The only Christmas album. Like if my favorite punk band comes out with a Christmas album, I won't listen to it on principle. I know that sounds awful. I don't want to hear it. I want to hear the songs that like you wrote when you were angry, not your version of Rudolph reindeer or the song you wrote after your big breakup. I want to hear that. I want to feel it. I don't want to hear. Do you reject all Christmas albums? There is one. Like, I mean, we're talking like Bing Crosby or I don't know what's another Christmas music fan. Oh, like it's just not my thing. Parumpa pum pum. Parumpa pum pum. The one Christmas album that I listen to every year is it's one of our family traditions. We don't go every year. We've gone many years is to see Andrew Peterson at the Ryman do the behold the limb of God tour and the whole limb of God, like the true telling of the Nativity story with our friends in Gullahorn and Jillfield. It's such a masterpiece of a record. So we listen to that all through the holiday season. It's just so good. But that's the one Christmas album that I like. And it's and by the way, it's him writing all new songs, not just replaying his version of a Christmas hit. Okay, kind of on that. So is there's not a favorite punk Christmas album? Do you have a favorite punk Christmas song like a cover of a song that buy a punk band? Like I know God, the Ramones, they did. Oh gosh, my brain just went. I love this song too. I can't. I'm honestly sitting there thinking I don't I don't know any punk rock Christian. I mean Christian punk rock Christmas songs. Do you been? Yeah, man. August Burns Red. They have a great Christmas album. They did like Carol the Bells. It's one of the best versions of Carol the Bells. You hate Carol the Bells. Yeah, song gives me anxiety. Yeah, but August Burns Red their drummer Matt do that guy's next level next level awesome. And he's a great human being too. But yeah, I just I honestly sitting here can't name you a punk rock Christmas record, which it's just I just I'm like I'm out. I don't hear it. Yeah, kind of funny that I'm like, bah humbug on that. Yeah. Okay. Maybe it's cold outside. Charming or creepy. Can you read pull up the lyrics and read them? Well, I'm doing that. There was a comedian that I watched the that he was talking about how we canceled baby. It's cold outside. And he read the number one song when this comedian was talking about this was web. And I'm not going to tell people what that stands for. If you don't know, Google it not on your work. Yeah, yeah. Wi-Fi. And he read the lyrics to baby. It's called outside and then read the lyrics for WAP. I'm like, this one we've canceled, but this one's the number one song on the chart right now. Yeah, I must not begin to cancel anybody, but go ahead on that. I really can't stay. Baby, it's cold outside. I've got to go away. Baby, it's cold outside. I feel like we should be doing this as a duet. This evening has been hoping that you drop in so very nice. I'll hold your hands. They're just like ice. Your mother will start to worry. Hey, beautiful. What's your hurry? My father will be pacing the floor. Listen to the fireplace roar. So really, I'd better scurry. Beautiful. Please don't hurry. Maybe just a half a drink more. I'll put some records on while I pour. The neighbors might think, but baby, it's bad out there. Say what's in this drink. Okay, maybe not that line. No cabs to be had out there. I wish I knew how to break this spell. I'll take your hat. Your hair looks swell. I ought to say no, no, no, sir. Mind if I move in closer. And this is back and forth male and female. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah. At least I'm going to say that I tried. What's the sense of hurting my pride? I really can't stay. Baby, it's cold outside. That's pretty much the song. So I guess, yes, if he roofied her, we should cancel this song. It's a terrible, awful song and it's trash and garbage. Right. But when she says what's in this drink, I don't think she's asking like literally what you put in here. I think it's like, oh, I'm feeling giddy. Right. So if it is the tension of I need to get home, but I'm really into you and you probably shouldn't be driving. You could get home, but you could stay here. There's no cabs outside. And wasn't this song like in the 20s? The 40s, I believe. 40s. Yeah. It's all about context for me. Yeah. I don't think it's as creepy as, and I mean, there was one version that I heard and it was like Dr. John, not you. Uh-huh. And like Lee Henrives or something when she was like 16. Yeah. Creepy. And I can't remember if that's exactly it, but it was something like that. And you're like, okay, fine. Not so great. Now there is a Harry Connick Jr. Lee and Womack version that's delightful. Gotcha. But I think it's just context. Exactly. And I also, given your life experiences, how you hear some of these songs and instantly you hear that song through your lived experience. And so if you live it as creepy because you've had some stuff, tough stuff in your life, great. Just don't listen to it. And if you have been in a situation where like, do you need to go home? My family's waiting for me, but I really want to be here with you. And probably shouldn't be driving because it's the weather's bad, but I'm going to stay here. That's, I don't know. It's kind of romantic. All right. We'll do one more. I skipped a final in college for the opportunity to walk across campus when I knew the woman who's now my wife was going to be walking across campus. Yeah. So you're not one to speak on creepier. I skipped a final to walk past her to be like, oh, hey, what's up? And we talked in whatever, like that is, that's creepy now. Back then it was really like romantic. Like, like you knew my schedule enough to know where I was going to be. And like you left something important to come just say hi to me. Like that was like the highest form of nobility. And now it's like that guy's stalking me. Yeah. It's a different time. Yeah. No question. All right. Last one. Are the parents in Home Alone the worst parents in cinema history? They're not great. I mean, it's one thing for it to happen once, but twice. Come on. Catch your kids, people. And what in the world? I missed Home Alone. That's my number four. How did I miss Home Alone? That movie's phenomenal. It's great. First one, one of the legendary. If you haven't watched it on Netflix, it's how movies are made. They do a series of, it's a, they did a couple of different versions of it, but one of them is Christmas movies and they interview Chris Columbus. And it's usually not like how they're actually made, but like the writing who came up with it, how they almost didn't get green lit. It's kind of all that back end type stuff before things even start, but how they did Home Alone and Chris Columbus is all in it. And John Hughes, cause he wrote Home Alone and just the whole, how they wrote it and how they dealt with having, there's some great stuff about having Joe Pesci on set with Macaulay Culkin and Joe Pesci, every other word was the F word, how they handle it. It's delightful to listen to how they made it, but they also do elf and a couple of other movies. It's on Netflix. Oh God, I forgot elf. You cannot forget. We watch that. That's one of our big traditions is Thanksgiving night is elf. That's the first. That's what you can get off. I am terrible at this favorite movies. Elf is up there. Home Alone is up there. Christmas vacation. Did you mention that? Yeah, I did. Uncle Eddie. Oh, that's right. It's cousin Eddie. He's somebody's uncle. That's true. Yeah. Man, I'm terrible at this. So yeah, those are all great ones. Okay. But we all agree the parents are not great. They're the worst. Like before you get on a major airline to go across the country, you should know where your kids are. Count your kids. Make sure your kids are there. Count them. I don't, something. Ta-da. That happens again. Somebody's calling like child protective services at this point. Correct. As they should. Yeah. As they should. You're just not good. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Hey, Merry Christmas everybody. Merry Christmas. Good to see y'all. Make good choices. Love y'all. Bye.