That UFO Podcast

UFO News Update: Reaper Footage, Russian Files & Lazar Returns

31 min
Feb 11, 20262 months ago
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Summary

This UFO Podcast episode covers recent UAP news including newly released MQ-9 Reaper drone footage showing instantaneous acceleration, declassified Russian UFO files from the 1990s, Bob Lazar's documentary resurgence, and Steven Spielberg's upcoming 'Disclosure Day' film. Host Andy discusses congressional efforts to advance UAP disclosure legislation and upcoming interviews with Richard Dolan and Joe McMoneagle.

Insights
  • Military-grade UAP footage showing instantaneous acceleration represents a significant shift from anecdotal claims to documented observable phenomena that meets official identification criteria
  • Fragmentation of UFO research community into separate silos (Galileo Project, Sol Foundation, New Paradigm Institute) may be hindering coordinated progress despite individual efforts being substantive
  • Mainstream entertainment (Spielberg's Disclosure Day) may serve as a public education tool to familiarize general audiences with UAP concepts discussed in specialized communities for years
  • Congressional UAP disclosure efforts face structural obstacles including vague 'as soon as possible' timelines, competing legislative priorities, and apparent non-compliance from national security apparatus
  • Whistleblower pipeline appears active with multiple individuals (Grush, Borland, Brown) having spent 12-24 months coordinating with officials before public disclosure, suggesting coordinated background activity
Trends
Shift from anecdotal UAP reports to documented military sensor data as primary evidence in disclosure advocacyIncreased mainstream media and entertainment industry engagement with UAP topic as commercial opportunityCongressional UAP disclosure efforts stalling despite bipartisan support, indicating systemic resistance from executive/intelligence branchesInternational UFO documentation (Russian files) becoming publicly accessible, suggesting global declassification momentumDocumentary filmmaking emerging as alternative disclosure channel when legislative approaches face obstructionWhistleblower coordination with Congress extending over multi-year periods rather than immediate public disclosurePublic interest in UAP remaining sustained despite lack of major legislative breakthroughs in 2024-2025Military drone footage analysis becoming standard methodology for UAP credibility assessment among researchers
Companies
Weaponised
Released new MQ-9 Reaper drone UAP footage with analysis by Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp
The Hill
Media outlet where analyst Marek von Renningkampf provides UAP-related analysis and commentary
Area 52
Chris Ramsey's podcast/media project; co-hosting 'It's Probably Nothing' stage show with Jesse Michaels
American Alchemy
Jesse Michaels' media project; co-hosting 'It's Probably Nothing' stage show with Chris Ramsey
New Paradigm Institute
Organization attempting to establish panel of experts for UAP document declassification efforts
Galileo Project
Scientific research organization working on UAP investigation as part of fragmented research community
Sol Foundation
Organization conducting UAP research as part of broader community working in separate silos
Sky Watcher
UAP research organization working independently on disclosure-related investigations
UAP Disclosure Foundation
Organization focused on advancing UAP disclosure efforts alongside other research groups
People
Jeremy Corbell
Journalist/filmmaker who released MQ-9 Reaper drone UAP footage with George Knapp on Weaponised
George Knapp
Investigative journalist who obtained and released declassified Russian UFO files from 1990s
Marek von Renningkampf
Former federal analyst providing technical analysis of UAP footage and military sensor data
Eric Burleson
U.S. Congressman leading UAP Disclosure Act legislation and investigating classified craft facility
Ross Coulter
Researcher who first reported classified military facility with recovered craft outside U.S.
Stephen Greer
UFO researcher who mentioned South Korea as potential location of classified craft facility
Bob Lazar
UFO researcher/whistleblower featured in upcoming documentary S4: The Bob Lazar Story
Luigi Vendatelli
Director of S4: The Bob Lazar Story documentary in post-production for upcoming release
Chris Ramsey
Entertainer/magician co-hosting 'It's Probably Nothing' stage show featuring UAP discussions
Jesse Michaels
Co-host of 'It's Probably Nothing' stage show touring U.S. with UAP-related content
Steven Spielberg
Director of upcoming blockbuster film 'Disclosure Day' with $16M Super Bowl advertising spend
Richard Dolan
UFO researcher scheduled for upcoming podcast interview focused on Chinese UFO research
Joe McMoneagle
Remote viewing expert and Stargate programme participant scheduled for upcoming podcast interview
Danny Sheehan
Legal expert and New Paradigm Institute member potentially volunteering for UAP declassification panel
Darcy Weir
Guest scheduled for upcoming podcast episode on Secret Space Programme topics
Grush
Whistleblower who spent months coordinating with Congress before public disclosure
Borland
Whistleblower who spent months coordinating with Congress before public disclosure
Brown
Whistleblower who spent months coordinating with Congress before public disclosure
Quotes
"For the first time, video recorded by US intelligence operatives of a genuine UAP displaying mind-boggling acceleration is being made public."
Jeremy Corbell/George Knapp (Weaponised)Early in episode
"I really don't think that's what we're seeing here, folks. Right now, label this video for me under very interesting."
Andy (Host)Reaper footage analysis
"They fastened detectors to my hands and legs and put on my head something like a crown. Their conclusion after the examination? Very strong nerves, mental faculties below the average."
Anatoly Malashev (from Russian UFO files)Russian documents section
"If you think things are quiet I would imagine maybe it's a little bit of calm before the storm."
Andy (Host)Whistleblower discussion
"What we're doing is we're all working on different jigsaws and really if we just got together and worked through them at the same time that would help."
Andy (Host)Research community fragmentation
Full Transcript
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But what I'm going to do is start with something that happened a few days ago now where a new video dropped, some footage from Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp over on Weaponised. And George Knapp's got a few stories I'll mention here today. We're going to jump all over. But the latest video, which for me is a much better video than I've seen in recent weeks or months, for one standout reason, to be honest, we often get a video, and I'm going to play it for you. If you're on the YouTube, you'll see it looping just over my shoulder, where we see an anomalous object, don't we, in these types of videos. But rarely do we see it do anything extraordinary. We're told it was doing something or after the clip's finished, it spun around 50 times, shot off into space, but we don't see it. Well, on this occasion, it seems like we do see an example of one of those observables, instantaneous acceleration. Like I say, if you're watching on the screen, you'll see that. The clip's played a few different times. Here's the text from the weaponized YouTube page from Jeremy and George. in 2012 an mq9 reaper drone while patrolling the skies over the jordanian syrian border caught a glimpse of an unknown object the controller of the sensor platform eventually managed to get a lock on the object but when they did the uap seemingly mocked the high-tech reaper and displayed astonishing speed astonished that went very sean connery astonishing akin to instantaneous acceleration one of the five observables used by our military to identify genuine UAP. Military aviators have described similar acceleration they have seen with their own eyes. Now for the first time, video recorded by US intelligence operatives of a genuine UAP displaying mind-boggling acceleration is being made public. As always, I encourage you to check out the Weapon Eyes show if you haven't already. It has the brilliant Marek von Renningkampf, who was an analyst for the federal government and worked multiple positions there. He's now a correspondent for multiple things including the hill anyways he was on providing analysis of what the numbers mean around the screen you know what you get up here down here and why the video is legitimate in his eyes so the video itself for those on audio platforms it's around three minutes long which includes the video repeating but it's slowed down with different views to it's in two parts there's a flash between the two parts to show the change um for you folks in audio i'm not going to obviously be playing the video for you to see. For the people on the video, you'll get to see the video on the screen. The first part of the video is the operator of the drone locking in on the object. We see a second part where the object is more in a zoomed in mode where you can make out a little shape. It looks like there might be an appendage even underneath, potentially something like a tail. It's really hard to make that out though given the pixelation, so I can't say for certain. I'm not going to sit here and tell you what this is or isn't. The video is there and it's available online the link's in the description and it should be in the thumbnail too if I remember but go and check it out and it's just just what the naked eye sees. The only prosaic explanation I've seen that's not a bit silly or a bit ridiculous is that of a balloon however I know I've been quite outspoken on the hellfire missile video from last year's hearings I still believe that was some sort of targeting balloon and a lot of officials and folks in the know have come forward to say as much as well. However, I do not think this video shows a balloon popping and zipping away like some sort of, you know, when you blow up a kid's balloon and before you tie the end of it, you just let it go and it does that farty noise and flies about the room. I really don't think that's what we're seeing here, folks. Right now, label this video for me under very interesting. Good work for Jeremy and George getting this out there. Like they have said themselves, if you've got any expertise in analysing this stuff or you spot something worth noting, get in touch with me. I'll pass it on to Jeremy and George. I would love to hear it. I'm all for good analysis and even the grumpier folks in the Discord channel for the podcast liked this particular video. So yeah, there we go. Let's stick with George Knapp for a few minutes. For some time, George Knapp has talked about the UFO files he managed to get out of Russia. Well, they are finally out in the public. For folks wondering about the files and how did George Knapp manage to sneak files out of classified documents even out of Russia back in the early 90s. He's mentioned this before, but basically the front cover of the documents were stamped classified, but the rest weren't. So what he done was take the front cover off, stuff the documents into document files he already had with him and basically, yeah, snuck them out. And that is ballsy to be doing that, let alone back in 1990s Russia. Yeah, not one you want to be effing about with there, folks. To no one's surprise the documents themselves highlight how much the USSR and post-Soviet Russian Federation looked into the UFO phenomenon. One big takeaway is that reports increased greatly in the late 70s after 1978 and here are some highlights that have been lifted out from a few different articles. On February 13th 1989, hundreds of people witnessed a massive 450 foot wide jellyfish shaped UFO flying 300 feet above the ground in the city of Nalchik between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. A massive red light was seen descending over the city, then splitting into equidistant green lights. After 10 minutes, the lights merged and ascended into the sky. 90 minutes later, the massive UFO descended on the city with a smaller, more agile craft also swarming before disappearing into the night sky. Among the witnesses were military members, local airport staff and astronomers. Here's another case that's highlighted. Anatoly Malashev, 18, claimed he was brought on board a craft on July 21st, 1975 and flown to the home planet of the alien pilots. Malashev was sketching the sunset in the woods of the village of Blagovizhenka in the same Kabardino-Balkarian region when he saw what looked like a meteor falling from the sky. A silver disc appeared and three humanoids including one woman with chestnut hair emerged Their planet was three light away and had no star but was illuminated from within There's a quote now. They fastened detectors to my hands and legs and put on my head something like a crown. Their conclusion after the examination? Very strong nerves, mental faculties below the average. Wow. the Russian investigator said he continued contact with Malashev for years and described him as honest, kind, sympathetic with no desire to indulge in fantasy and third case that was highlighted it says here earthlings allegedly came into contact with a race of giant aliens on June 27th 1979 in the Derzhavinsk, Kazakhstan a group of pioneers including many children were travelling from Berezka when they stopped to camp near a mound one group of boys escorted by an adult chased a flash on the edge of a forest and came upon a 10 foot tall black slender alien with shining pink eyes the next day a girl and her teacher saw one of the giants sitting in a chair near the campsite nearly a year after the incident investigators spoke to the children and reported they all had the same recollection of events that's just some examples from the files folks i've not had a chance to dive into them myself but i do plan doing that in the coming weeks. There were no definitive conclusions made in the documents other than this warranted further study, but it's a nice glimpse into another nation's study of the UFO phenomenon. And I think that's a really good time to mention later this week, I've got the brilliant Richard Dolan joining me on the podcast. Of course, he will answer questions sent over to me by you, but our focus for that interview is going to be a deep dive into Chinese ufology, perhaps the most secretive superpower on the planet and how the subject is controlled there. So sure to be incredibly interesting. Let me know via email or thatufopodcast.com forward slash contact if you have any questions at all for Richard Dolan. Please get those over. Good segue then into a new interview with Congressman Eric Burleson, who again was a former guest on this podcast. He has spoken on ALN, Aliens, last night, talking about the the object first mentioned, you'll remember perhaps some time ago by Ross Coulter, that there's a craft outside of the US that has been discovered that was too big to move that they had to build a building over it. Now, he talked about this saying it's a classified location outside the United States, and it's going to take a lot to get there, but he wants to try and make it happen and that this could be the final destination for him and that UFO investigation. As reported by Ross Coulter, he followed up on this with his Reality Check podcast saying the location's classified and if it was revealed it would put the lives of American servicemen and women in danger. Ross Coulter then brought up that Stephen Greer had mentioned a site in South Korea. Ross then reiterated he doesn't want to get into details as it's irresponsible. Ross gave a bit of advice to Representative Burleson saying that if Eric does indeed get to go he should make sure he doesn't just visit the facility on top he should ask to go below so if there is something for example in South Korea where you have in my head I've got like an American military base like a forward operating base or something they've got a huge facility and underneath it is where this craft is the building itself is operational it's likely most folks in that building working there don't even know what's underneath you know so really really interesting um other comments in that interview that caught the ear brought up by Eric Burleson was that there should be a new first-hand whistleblower coming forward soon with new information. No more info on this right now, nothing I'm privy to at the moment either folks, but as I've said before, not that everyone is the biggest fan of this statement by any means, okay, but things are happening behind the scenes. Look at Grush, Borland, Brown and others. They don't come forward within weeks or months saying they've just spoken to staffers or congressmen or trying to bring their story forward they've been going on this stuff for months 12 months 24 months you know multiple years in the background and then we hear about it so if you think things are quiet I would imagine maybe it's a little bit of calm before the storm again I don't think things are that quiet though however I get it I think we're we're on the cusp maybe of some more news and perhaps we'll see the fruits of What's the difference? Who knows? I know that you want to listen to your podcast, so I'll keep it short. Because if you think it's important to make a dulyam choice, can ASR help? I think, how then? For example, when you're doing a dulyam choice of things that you love, you're going to be able to do. Will you know more about the insurance where a dulyam choice of choice is? Go to asr.nl slash duurzame keuzes. This does ASR for you and a dulyam society. ASR does it. So, we can now listen to your podcast. On to news on Bob Lazar and during Jesse Michaels and Chris Ramsey's stage show they've been doing called It's Probably Nothing it's Chris Ramsey of Area 52 Jesse Michaels of American Alchemy they've got the show they're doing currently on tour in the United States they brought out a surprise guest one Bob Lazar now this isn't as random as some folks might be thinking Bob Lazar for some time has had a documentary in the works directed by Luigi Vendatelli S4, The Bob Lazar Story, which is due for release soon. I think initially it was slated for last summer, but it was pushed back. Famously, last year, I thought I pre-ordered the documentary, but you might remember, folks, I had only bought the signed movie poster for it, which was totally amateur by me. It's a nice poster, right enough, so yeah. However, the documentary must be on the horizon if Bob's out there promoting it. So we're perhaps due to some big updates and maybe more on the whole Bob Lazar situation with that soon. but nice to see Bob Lazar back on stage. A listener of the show, Rod, who was an attendant, sent me over this review of the Jesse Michaels and Chris Ramsey show and I'm going to read that out for you now, so thank you to Rod. He said, I just want to give you a 30-second review. I attended the Chris Ramsey and Jesse Michaels premiere of It's Probably Nothing show last night in Austin, Texas. It was an entertaining show that even my wife, who has little interest in UFOs, seemed to enjoy. I can sympathise there, Rod. Chris and Jesse did the typical talk show Kicked back show Show banter Asking each other fresh questions They kept the evening moving well And I felt both were at ease and comfortable You could definitely see Chris's experience As a professional entertainer and magician come through They kicked off with a local Who has seen a UFO in 2024 Discussing fun aspects of the sighting This was probably This was followed up by a more fun conversation And then they brought out UAP Gerb Gerb did an amazing, he amazed everyone with his deep acronyms and knowledge which is mind-blowing stuff. I just saw actually on that someone on Reddit's put together a diagram based off of all the acronyms and the connections that Gerb has talked about in the UFO community. Really interesting stuff and folks, people reaching out to me asking to get Gerb on. I was speaking to him last year and he seems to have just gotten really busy. If he listens to this I don't know if he's still does it'd be great to hear from him um but yeah we were close to arranging a date but here we are um rod continues we were all amazed when chris announced a special surprise world premiere showing the new trailer of the bob lazar movie s4 the bob lazar story he then amazed everyone even more when he announced bob lazar and director luigi they both came out on stage bob received a standing ovation i was amazed that this reclusive historical figure was on stage Luigi and Bob answered questions about the movie Bob couldn't say enough about how realistic the movie was Judging from the trailer I would agree this documentary will appeal to all UFO fans Was it worth the $50 ticket price I paid? Without a doubt, yes So here we are folks In 2026, what is old is new again I for one am ready for a Bob Lazar resurgence Divisive as most things are in the UFO topic I'm here for it What's your take? Again age old leave it in the comments let me know via email contact page your take on the Bob Lazar story What Bob Lazar place in 2026 The things we now know has his story been vindicated for you Has it held up to scrutiny? Has it held up to time? This could be a little bit of a plot twist, or as Chris Walken once said, a change in the narrative. For the UFO conversation, Bob Lazar back in 2026. I'm looking forward to the S4 documentary. Like I say, I've got the poster. So, you know, why wouldn't I? And to keep the nostalgia wheel turning, who's up for a Spielberg UFO movie? Well, of course, Disclosure Day dropped its latest trailer during the Super Bowl. I am not a big NFL guy, but I do look forward to the trailers for movies dropping around the event. We got this new look at Disclosure Day, Steven Spielberg's upcoming blockbuster. It was only a 60 second spot. But remember, for the Super Bowl, folks, this year an ad, a 30-second ad slot was around $8 to $10 million. So we can safely say this trailer cost around, what, $16 million just to air. It's a big chunk of a marketing budget. We get a few new glimpses of stuff. Blink and you'll miss it almost. But a few highlights for me in this new 60 seconds. You'll see it if you're on the YouTube playing. Are around eight seconds in. You can see folks in the street staring at their phone screens and it looks like what they're looking at is some kind of tall alien being, an entity walking through the street. I tried to screen grab it, but it's difficult with the quality of the trailer and all that stuff. But it looks like they're watching some kind of viral video. Reminded me of signs when famously the alien walks across the birthday party in Brazil, which sticks out to so many people as a terrifying moment, but it was done so well. This could be something akin to that in this movie. then at the end we finally see a UFO, a craft, a massive craft coming into the atmosphere again similar to Independence Day when the sky appears to be on fire as the huge ship bursts through the clouds, a lot of lights going across, hard to make out, is it a boomerang, a triangle, a saucer a big cigar shaped craft, it looks big, the movie feels big I'm not going to sit here and tell you there are real alien noises used or this is disclosure I don't feel that's right. It's not fair. But if they nail this, and I really hope they do, then they can get folks up to speed with a lot of the stuff we've been talking about over the last five to six years on this podcast, hearing on other podcasts, on the news cycles, in books. This could be a big jump getting the public up to speed. Can I say ready for disclosure? I don't know. You've got all the rumours around Trump and 8th of July speeches. I don't think the sources for that are particularly concrete folks i'm not going to lie but again it's got a date to it so we'll soon find out but listen um june 12th disclosure day one more big full-length trailer probably still to come for this one in the next month or so that'll be around three minutes long i'm guessing that'll show us a little bit more really looking forward to it really looking forward to it some of your comments on disclosure day from andy not me um he says can't wait for this to come out could be there for real the way trump is going no cease says it should have led with this trailer less is more i'm a little bit more excited for this now mark said i hope the directors have based this movie around the cover-up aspects to uaps and deep state lies this will get more people questioning and thinking lisa said looks really good can't wait and break even bandit said they went full send looks decent though i'll watch it yeah this this will make money this will make bank at the box office and that's you're not asking or requiring the ufo community to do that this will be a big summer blockbuster folks so yeah um let's finish off the news then with some listener questions um david thanks for sending in your stuff in folks again i'll just remind you folks thank you to everyone who signed up to the patreon obviously looking to do this gig full time in the in the near future anyone who can sign up via apple to support the podcast you can just double click and sign up for a couple of bucks, a couple of pounds a month, and you get early access, ad-free shows. You get a free trial on of that too. Patreon's exactly the same. Thank you to everyone who signed up on those new tiers. Same as Spotify. If you type in that UFO podcast premium, there's a separate feed on there you can sign up to. You get the videos too. And of course, YouTube memberships. But otherwise, if you're listening on the free feeds, thank you for continuing to do so and listening to me talk about this crazy, incredible UFO topic. But listen, And here's David. David says, so first question regarding the transfer of UFO documents that are at least 25 years old to the National Archive. Any progress on this or has the as soon as possible amendment made this legislation redundant? I think that was the issue. So when there was a requirement of documents to be transferred, there was no hard and fast date put on it. So when you give that as soon as possible, it's very much seen right now. And as far as I know and have chased up that it's in progress. So, for example, let's just pick the CIA have documents that are 25 years or older regarding the UFO topic. They can just tell whoever's collating these. Yeah, we're in the process of putting these all together for you. Is anyone right now rushing to grab UFO documents? The Epstein stuff is the big story right now. So, yeah, I think it's a case of that, as you say, David, as soon as possible. if you don't give someone a deadline a hard and fast deadline then there's always that wiggle room isn't there question two burleson was attempting to pass a uap disclosure act bill by itself any update no not yet burleson and representatives garcia and others have talked about this this is still something they seem keen on getting done um but yeah as of yet no update and burleson didn't mention any big updates on that in his recent interview but i am i'm confident we'll get something passed? Is it something that's going to be useful or we hope for? I don't know, but we'll see. Number three, the New Paradigm Institute was trying to get a panel of experts to declassify UFO documents. Is that within Burleson's UAPDA? So I believe, David, you're talking about the Presidential Review Board, which is a nine-person panel, which was in the original UAP Disclosure Act, because the two big things that failed three years ago, failed two years ago, and failed last year is the presidential review board a nine-person panel of different disciplines who would basically collate documentation and work out what's to be declassified and given to the public the other part was the eminent domain which is that they can go in the government and seize any and all ufo stuff that private contractors etc etc have those were the two big parts that failed um so new paradigm institute i believe that panel they're happy to help with get set up and they would be keen to get that set up with Danny Sheehan and co. Danny Sheehan himself might volunteer to be on it. But yeah, that would require legislation getting passed for that to be in any way effective. Short Stuff says, following up on Danny's answer to the question I asked about leveraging the constitution, if the mechanism already exists in the constitution for Congress to get the info they need, then why isn't representatives Burleson, Mace, Burchett, and I'll just add to that short stuff, others using it to get the answers they are looking for. It's a good question. And I think the easy answer and probably the fair answer for all sides is it's not just as simple as they go and get the information. I don't think, again, to use Eric Burleson, he spends his entire week on the UFO topic. He has a district. He has constituents to answer to. He has a job to do, as with any of these congressional folks. Like I say, I think a big issue for me goes back to this UAP Secrets Task Force being given such a big remit. Remember, 9-11, Bin Laden, JFK, UFOs, you've got six months to solve all of these. Ridiculous. You can't even begin in six months to put together the right plan to attack that over a course of five to ten years. so I think that was kind of set up to fail but for me if the mechanisms are there I just don't think there's enough people all and this is just me thinking out loud pulling in the same direction at the same time there's a lot of disparate small separate groups working and are they working together because it doesn't seem like they are it doesn't seem like what we had in 2020 or 2021 2021 or even 2022 where there were larger groups of folks but everyone was working in a similar direction this all seems to have split up into different camps now which is probably not ideal if you looking to cure a disease you you better working as organizations and groups and collating data and sharing information and working together than working in silos trying to solve bits of the jigsaw That the way that seems to work for me So it seems like some of the mechanisms are there. But again, there's a large shadow of the deep state, the national security state, the gatekeepers that, I'm sorry, don't answer to the law. They don't have to go along with, well, the congressmen and congressmen, they want these questions answered and they want these documents. so we have to hand them over. They're just not doing it and they're above the law. They are. That's the way this works. So unfortunately, I don't think it's as easy as just going in and asking for the answers, but there are some good people working on this in the background. I can tell people that much. Short Stuff added, this UFO that's so large they had to build over it. I know Ross Coulter has talked about it, but there's not much to go on. So what exactly is it? How big is it? How long has it been there? Which country is it in? And what makes it a classified location other than a ufo is there so short stuff i think um based on what we know let's just pick that it's in south korea it could be that it's on what is a u.s military base in for example south korea so straight away it'll be a location with potentially weapons and american personnel you know it's an active location it could be a big building on top that looks relatively nondescript but underneath there is this thing under the ground basement upon basement upon basement you know well underground we don't know that's that's the thing some people have suggested that South Korea others have mentioned Australia I don't believe that's the case because I think Ross would have alluded to that more but for me it's the fact it's going to be some kind of military base that's built over it I very much doubt it's an office block where people are going about having their coffees on a day-to-day basis it'll be some kind of military um military complex i imagine which again helps hide a huge ufo being under the ground how long has it been there no idea how big is it it sounds sizable i reckon you're talking something it's a couple of hundred feet if not more um which would be really interesting in itself again if burleson can get there that's that is smoking gun territory that is big that is huge um but yeah it's a difficult one um and finally we'll just finish off with fred to pose this question and i love this and i think it's simplicity is a nice way to round off is any of this real fred yeah it is real i think speaking personally first off i had an amazing sighting that can't be explained away when I was younger. It was not a misidentification. I saw something that is really strange and anomalous. So have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people out there in the world. I think we're in a place where we've made a lot of great progress. I think social media has helped with that. I think social media has hindered that. I think we're in a place where the toothpaste can go back in the tube. The genie can go back in the bottle and we could have another five to ten years where it's going back over sightings going back over the same stories but I think we have to appreciate right now we are in a place where there's a lot of things happening and to use that jigsaw analogy what we don't seem to have right now is everyone working on the same jigsaw it might be a 5,000 piece jigsaw but what we're doing is we're all working on different jigsaws and really if we just got together and worked through them at the same time that would help you've got sol you've got the galileo project you've got the uep disclosure foundation you've got sky watcher all doing varying degrees of work all to different success levels all with their own critiques from different people in different parts of the community you've got the experiencers you've got the scientists you've got the academics you've got the military everyone seems to be in different silos and you know what for right now Maybe that just has to be how this is, but they are working towards something, something that's real. And for me, this year, is it going to be a holding pattern? I don't know. But what I'm hoping is that we do get new whistleblowers coming forward soon, that they manage to further the story. And like I say, folks, things are happening with people in the background just now, as they always have been. I'm not giving away any secrets there, but let's see what happens and what comes from that. And as people come forward, if we can support them in any way, shape or form, whether that's sharing stuff on social media, whether it's talking about things with family and friends, whether it's sharing a video online, letting folks know about this podcast, talking about the age of disclosure, letting folks know about Disclosure Day. I know loads of people who, you know, will go and see Disclosure Day who didn't know about it, who hadn't heard about it. So I don't suppose maybe in the UK The marketing machine The media machine hasn't really Kicked into overdrive for it yet It's still some time off You'll start to get the posters on the sides of buses And everything, it's a big summer for movies Disclosure Day could play a part in that But yeah, listen folks That's all for today's UFO News Update There was going to be another show out this week With Darcy Weir, he had to delay a couple of days We'll be talking Secret Space Program I've got Richard Dolan coming on the podcast In a couple of days time Get your questions over for Richard Dolan And then next week folks Joe McMoneagle, big interview It's going to be a long interview, I'm really looking forward to that I'll be putting a lot of work into that one too Yeah, Joe McMoneagle Finally on the podcast Remote viewing, the Stargate programme All of that stuff, really looking forward Really excited to speak to Joe So thank you to everyone supporting, for listening, for watching For sharing If you've not left a review of the podcast Please go and leave a review, it makes a massive difference And that includes if you've picked up a copy of Atlas of UFOs. The book Over My Shoulder, the book I wrote a couple of years ago now, it's been out since September. Thank you to those buying, supporting and sharing. And yeah, I look forward to speaking to you all very, very soon. That's all for this episode of That UFO Podcast. Thank you so much for listening and watching. 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