The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast | SMR 581: Hoppers

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Hey, welcome to another episode of spoil movie reviews on the Black Guy Who Tips premium podcast network. I'm your host, Rod. Join us always. Well, most, okay, sometimes by my co-host Karen, it just depends on what the movie is. I'm not gonna lie. A lot of times I'd be like, I am not interested. So you rather watch it's a cop for the 500th time than hang out with a husband. Hey, you can find this podcast everywhere you get premium podcasts. That's right. Patreon, the Black out tips, the blackouttips.com slash premium. On spoil movie reviews. We review movies for people who've seen the movie. Don't ever play, plan on seeing the movie or don't care about spoilers cause we do spoil the movie. And today's movie is hoppers. The 2016, I believe Pixar film, I think Pixar did this joint. We'll get into the plot and the synopsis and all that stuff. But let me tell you first, we went to the theater to see this. We did. Yeah. Not just one of these things. You sit on the couch and you stream it. Went to the theater. Now we did arrive a tad bit late, but not like too late, like maybe five minutes. So we missed probably one trailer and my guess is it's the trailer. We, it's what we walked in on the tail end of. But here are the movie trailers we saw this time and there were only five. And probably cause it was a kids movie. Yeah. And technically there was really only four. We'll get to the five. But, but the point being like, I don't know if it's because the movie's been out for a week or two. I don't know if it's because of the time we went. We went in like a four, 15 matinee showing. I'm not really sure why AMC decided not 30 minutes of commercials, but I appreciate them for not wasting my time with 30 minutes of previews. So the first one was Super Mario Galaxy, the sequel to Super Mario World, I think the first one, uh, 100,000 percent. Who, who's not going to go see this? I mean, it's Mario. It's a billion dollar movie. The first one made a billion dollars because everybody saw it. And I know there were some people who were a little disappointed or down on it. I don't know what they was on. I enjoyed the shit out of that movie. I enjoyed the shit. And I'm not going to lie every time I see, cause I think this, this, uh, trailer, they cut was like the last trailer. Yeah, it is. And it's one of those things where I'm not going to lie every time I see, uh, every time they cut a different trailer, I see something new or I see a new character. I see, like I see something in the background. And for me, I get so excited. Like I, like I am really excited about this movie. And it come out like the second, the second or the third right around my birthday. So I'm ready to let's go. And it has, um, Donald Glover, uh, as one of the voices, uh, and Issa Rae is one of the voices. So yeah. Uh, this went, man, I, I don't, this, the title of this movie is so weird that I'm a hundred percent sure I got it wrong. Um, okay. Yeah. I just looked it up. It's the pout, pout fish. Oh, um, it was a, it looked like finding Nemo. And I thought maybe it was another finding Nemo, but it's not. Uh, uh, it's, it's some sort of fish go on a journey to save the world type of story. Uh, cartoon fish. I hang on a lot. Whatever was in that trailer, it ain't had a sizzle. I'm not interested. It did not look, the luck was going to be very boring. Yeah. It didn't have it like whatever it is. It didn't have it. Cause sometimes you're watching things jump out the screen, but you're like, oh, I got to go see that. But I don't know if it was the way it was drawn or if it might have been too dark, you know, cause certain things that brightness and shit for, particularly for cartoons and shit matters. And I was like, mm-mm. Yeah. I wonder like, I think it could have been the voice performances or maybe just the clips they chose to promote it. It felt like, uh, like the kind of movie that if you told me it was like going straight to the Disney channel or something, I'd be like, okay. Right. But who knows? I anyway, I wasn't feeling this trailer. Um, uh, but maybe I'll see a better trailer later. Uh, the devil wears product too. Unfortunately, I've never seen the first. I never seen the first. Sorry to let you all do that movie people. I understand it's a classic. I never saw the first people loved that movie. And I'm like, I am not interested. So if you're into the first one, I imagine this was a huge deal for you. For me, I was like, is this the devil wears product? I feel like I've seen these memes. Yes. Yes. And it was, um, Amazon prime and checkie cheese. No, they're not movies. They're just commercials. They put in the middle of the damn trailers. Right. Which I think is pointless. I could have said at home and watched my TV. I do not. I'm in the theater. Wow. You showing me commercials from the house. Uh, the Mandalorian and Grogu, I don't know how to tell you if this is your first time listening to this show. I hate to disappoint you. I'm 1 million percent in for this. I think it's going to be good. I am the person they made it for. Everyone else is going, who the hell want to see this? I, I stopped watching the Disney plus show. I didn't. And seeing it on the big screen, it does do something. It's still real to me. Damn it. And I'm going to be there day one. Initially I was one of them people going, who asked for this? But it was something because we initially seen the trailers. We seen them on your TV on TV. But when I seen, I think the first time, yeah, the first time I seen the trailers in the theater, I was like, Oh, okay. Because seeing on your TV, I'm looking like, I, I could have watched this at the house, but seeing it in the theaters, it just, it changed my mind. I was like, okay, yes, yes, yes. So I'm going to go see this. Yeah. I'm, I'm in. Um, I don't, I don't know who I would be kidding. I, I, I don't expect this is going to necessarily bring in huge numbers at the box office. I don't need them. Feels like it's about three, four years too late. I agree. Um, but I got to go see my boy Grogu. Um, okay. Baby Yoda. I got to go see him on the big screen and hopefully we get to the conclusion to find out if his last name is Jenkins or green. Or like, what is, what's Brogu's last name? Smith. And then lastly was toast, toy story five, I believe. I, I, there's so many of these at this point. And I've seen every single one of them and I'm going to go see this one too. Yeah. And the thing is for me, toy story is in a weird place mentally for me because I feel like it always delivers when I go to the theater. I forget. There's one I don't like and I forget which one it is, but in general, I like the plow is the one with the bear. No, the bear one was good. That was when they was going to burn the death in the garage or something. That one was good. Um, I can't remember the one with King and Michael Key was good as well. But there's one of these that I was like, hmm, maybe it was two. Anyway, they mostly hit. Mostly hit. Yes. So I'm a hundred percent going to, going to see it. But I always feel like toy story is such a weird one for it because the haters of Pixar and I'm at this point who, who, like there's so many haters of Pixar. Cause they've just, some of the leadership has come out and pissed off the other side of the aisle with their like, we tired of all this. Whoa. D E I like, okay. Anyway, my point being, um, a lot of them are like, I hate that Disney Bob takes our because Pixar is making sequels and they shouldn't be making all these sequels and they don't need to make as many movies and a lot of these movies, the quality is starting to come down. So I don't like it blah, blah. And I do hear them and I understand, but then they all, to a person, love every single one of these toy stories and they will be in the theater for toy story five and they big ass will be crying. So I don't, I don't know what to tell you when I'm like, they wouldn't have made five toy stories if Disney didn't come in there and be like, Hey, keep the party going, the money machine never stops. Ain't that the truth? So I don't know. Anyway, I'm going to be there. Uh, and I want to see what they do with the idea of screen time because in the trailer, I think people are going to be like, finally, somebody to tell the kids to get off their screens and make parents be parents. But it's coming from Walt Disney and Pixar, who I guarantee your children spend a lot of time on a screen looking at. Um, so I got a feeling they're going to find a compromise between them and the little screeny thing to be like technology, not that bad. Uh, so we'll see what happens. Time out of some shit like that. Right. Yeah. Exactly. I think we know how this is. And it's not with the kids realizing like, I'm going to just keep playing with Woody. Right. It's not, it's not, it's not slim. Yeah. I'll pay it to the ground. Yeah. All right. Let's get into this movie. This movie is hoppers. Uh, 19 year old animal lover uses technology that places her consciousness into a robotic beaver to uncover mysteries within the animal world beyond her imagination. Uh, it is directed by Daniel Chong and written by Daniel Chong, Jesse Andrews and Jordan Harrison. And it is, uh, it stars, um, Piper Kerta as Mabel, Bobby Moynihan as King George, John Hamm is Mary Jerry, Jen Arazo. Um, trying to see it as a day. Franco is the insect king. Um, a partner, nonchal, charlotte is, uh, Nisha. Um, I knew that was, she was funny in here. Oh, Isaiah Whitlock, Jr. was bird king. Oh, arresting pigs. If he would have made that bird say, shit. But yeah. So, uh, Meryl Streep is the insect king. I did not. Wow. I did not know that day. They bought out the big guns. Man, that's that Pixar Disney money or something. Yes. And some of them had, didn't even have a lot of lines. Yeah. That's crazy. Um, okay. Well, let's get into what we liked. Then we'll talk about what we didn't like. Then we'll score from zero to five. And then at the end, we'll read your feedback because we owe you guys lots of feedback over the last few months because we haven't had as many of these reviews. So, uh, Karen, get us started. Give me something you liked about this movie. I actually liked the fact that y'all know I like colors and child. The colors was everywhere. It was very, very bright and colorful and like the color of the animals, the color of nature, you know, even it contrasts very good between light and dark. Cause, you know, sometimes when things get dark, uh, it gets dark, too dark sometimes, but they balance it out where you could still see and function and things like that. So it was very bright and very colorful. Uh, I like the overall plot about the, the environmental message that came with the plot about like humans and our destruction of the animal habitats, the idea of going outside and being in nature, bringing peace, allowing people to bond, allowing people to decompress. And I don't know if that's just a thing that's reached me because in the last couple of years I've been outside more than I, like basically the most I've been since I was a child. Same. And I found that I do get that sense of peace and, and belonging to something. And feeling, uh, uh, able to like breathe and meditate and decompress. Um, a lot of times when I go on my, my walks outside, I like, at this point, I can't imagine not walking outside. Like I, I prefer not to do the indoor walks. They used to be all I did was I go, I drive to a gym to be like, Hey, let me go ahead and walk around the gym. I remember before, but I walk outside right, babe. Roger really give me like outside. I was like, yeah, it's something about the wind moving through your body. It's something you just cannot experience that in a stale building. Yeah. So I liked the environmental message and the way they kind of illustrated, especially like urban sprawl as the, we're going through that literally in North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina right now with our 277, like toll lane expansion project. I was watching the news the other day and they were like, we're going to lose some of these historical parks. Um, many of them in black neighborhoods. Not a movie doesn't go into the racial part, but, but we're going to lose that. We're losing part of our culture and yeah, animals are part of that too. So the allegory between like the animals and that nature, all that stuff worked for me. I liked the fact that piggyback on what you were saying, it was heartfelt. Like you actually understood Mabel, even though she was very complex, but at the same time her, the things that she wanted to do was very righteous. And she was, she was very, uh, strong and like to, even to a fault to, I have the single purpose and this is my purpose. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Uh, yeah, I think the relationship between her and her grandma was like the, the, the, probably the strongest part of the movie. I don't actually don't feel like anything will like her actual parents or anything like that beyond her mom coming to school and dropping off with grandmothers. It really wasn't like, uh, any others, that might be in the negatives, but the point being like that was that when you say heartfelt, that was where I felt the heart was with the grandma and stuff. Um, I like Mabel's complexity as a protagonist. I actually thought this was a bold choice and a good one. And I understand that that's going to have negative consequences on some folks, but I liked the idea that this little girl was not perfect. And she was, she was the kind of rambunctious we normally saddle on the male characters is like, oh, he has a good heart, but he's rough around the edges. She had a good heart, but she was rough around the edges and she did impulsive bad decisions that made the movie better, but her life harder. And I actually enjoyed that. And going on this journey with her, um, at the end when she got the job with the professor, I was like, well, that's cause it's a movie. But cause you know, I'm real like, they be like, girl, no, like, like, you lucky, we let you graduate. If you don't get the hell out of here and go mess somebody else's life up. But, um, but yeah, I like Mabel a lot because she made these decisions that you understood her heart was in the right way, right place. And it was out of empathy for the animals. Um, and they don't, they don't do a lot to show humanity's cruelness to the animals other than the speaker met mechanism, which is actually kind of like a, I don't want to say harmless, but it's a, um, it's a less destructive environmental. Like, like this isn't, let's go send a bunch of hunters to the woods to shoot out animals or something like we had with the wild robot, which was amazing. But in the wild robot man, there was some moments where he was like, Oh my God, these animals. Yes. And for some of the children, you were like, Oh, I know this might have traumatized them. Right. Yes. Uh, so yeah, they, I liked that she was very, uh, uh, complex. I, it was funny and it was funny because of Mabel because particularly, uh, when she, when they would talk about her being like a child, you know, and how she would like take all the animals and then she was hard to catch. And then, you know, her grandma talking to, she huffing and puffing. Like, like she was just the comedy beats with that character in particular. Like there were other funny things that happened, but with her, they were really good. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely thought it was funny as well. Um, um, especially around that character, like, uh, and then, um, the other, what was the other thing? Oh, and I enjoyed the music soundtrack too. I actually thought the music was pretty good in this film. Um, the way they like underscored some emotional moments, the way they like, I think they had a scissor song that was in there at one point. Like, cause that was saying, I was like, that sounds like a scissor. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's that Disney money. Sir. They like, just like Rihanna was into Smurfs. I was like, they basically got a Rihanna song and was like, we got to make a movie because Rihanna and Smurfs don't even really go together. But they figured it out. Um, but yeah, I actually enjoyed the music and the soundtrack. I love, I like movies that show youth being youth and show youth being flawed and show youth being over emotional and making errors and making mistakes and not listen to authority. And like I said, purposely making their lives harder, you know, because that's what you do, you know, and a lot of times adults walk in going, that's dumb. Yeah. Cause you know better, but allow a youth to be a youth. And so I appreciate they, they was like, she's going, she's young. She gonna make errors. She gonna make mistakes. She gonna. Yeah. That's what I meant when I said she was a complicated character is like her decisions were so impulsive and often, you know, as a, as a kid, I could see being like, Oh, I identified this character, but here's the downside of what they're doing. And of course they learned the lesson throughout the film. Um, uh, uh, oh, the voice cast. That was my last thing. The voice cast. I mean, I just, John Hamm, Bobby Moynihan, um, Dave Franco, uh, partner, not Charla, um, like I said, Meryl Streep, E golden, Wade, them from, um, SNL, Isaiah Whitlock. I mean, they, they just had the money. And when I tell you, like some of these people, they may have had five lines. Yes. Like I said, some of them, they didn't have a lot of lines at all. Yeah. But they, I mean, they did a good job delivering that stuff. And I cannot piggyback on your funny thing. I wanted to add a couple of things. Her, the scenes with her and Mayor Jerry, where they cut back and forth to them arguing. Marius. So good. Um, that was so funny. Um, the, uh, uh, Bobby Moynihan is King George, the, the, um, the beaver. Yes. He was very funny. No, the show. And that, and that, and I love how they didn't run away from the idea that the animals eat each other, but the fact that he just made it seem like it was all good. He's like, you gotta eat, gotta eat. It's like, well, he, they're eating each other. They eating people. Pine rules. But yeah. So I enjoyed that because I think in the, it also had came up in the wild robot. And I liked that they don't run away from it or be like, no, the bear, actually these mushrooms is like, no, the bear would eat peep fish. Yeah. The bear is not going to be, I didn't. Yeah. Other talking animals could get guy. Uh, it is what it is. So yeah, I enjoyed, uh, the humor in those areas. I actually really liked the, uh, the doctors, uh, uh, like the older lady and like the black lady, uh, because they were, and, and the dude, like they were actually really, really funny and they carried the movie. Like she would be doing something and all of a sudden it just popped out of nowhere. You're like, Oh, okay. And so I liked the fact that they use the animals as a way to get them to interact with her without them physically being there. And so I actually liked, liked them. And you talked about, uh, uh, Mayor Jerry, Mayor Jerry, uh, actually stole the show to he was actually hilarious. Like his comedy beats was just as good as hers. As far as like, yeah, John has a pretty funny guy, man. It's kind of crazy. He did madman, which I know you've never watched, but madman is so selling and dramatic. And like when it is funny, it's sardonic. And in this case is like, he was, I mean, but I've seen him on SNL, all these other places, uh, he's like legitimately got good comedic timing. So yeah, I enjoyed his performance as well. Yeah. You got anything else? Uh, oh yeah. One more thing. Uh, I actually thought that after credit scenes are worth staying for. And I normally don't say that, but, uh, the, like these tags were funny. Yes. Cause a lot of times the tags addresses like, uh, remember this or his, here's an idea for the sequel. Uh, the tags in this one, uh, the one with the face was funny. And then the one with the old man finally getting his groceries was funny. Yes. I, I wanted to agree that they were hilarious. And my, uh, last thing I enjoyed the flashbacks. I enjoyed the way they implemented the flashbacks because sometimes when you see flashbacks, either they're kind of pointless or don't make any sense. So don't make no connections. I love the flashbacks. And then my brain, and I'm kind of glad, and it was kind of a twist, even though it wasn't a twist when I say her grandma, I don't know if I said, I was all, baby, your grandma gonna die. You know, like I, my brain was like, okay, your grandma gonna die. But I liked the fact that they showed her grandma kind of passing off screen. And then kind of showing time passing. We, and there's nothing wrong with, you know, showing somebody past, but in this case, they didn't. And I think that them leaving that out actually helped shorten the, the length of the movie. Okay. Let's get into negatives then give me a first negative. If you have one. I do. And when I was talking about shortening the length of the movie, yes, it was a tidbit too long. It's an hour and a half. It ended up in perfect. Agreed. I had that as my first one too. And I think, and the reason I would say that is because of the next thing I would say as well. Um, and this is my biggest kind of like, you know, negative on this movie. It's a kids movie. This has happened more and more with Pixar movies, the further they get along. And I think especially with some of the pushback and some of the flops they've had when they've tried to incorporate deeper messages into stuff. Um, so now we're starting to get some of these Pixar movies that are literally only just for kids. Like I don't think an adult can watch this movie. And like this one did not make me cry. I never teared up. I never got close to it. Nope. Um, it might make you cry on some, like we all lose our grandmoms shit, but not on some, like the, what is happening with the characters, how close she got to these animals are, you know, the, like it just never really hits that. And I think it's cause this one's just kind of for kids and it's simple and they're like, Hey, treat animals in the environment. Good. And I mean, if that's what you take from that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that, but that this was not, this is what did not feel like man, uh, like inside out one and two, where I'm like, damn, Cocoa, where I'm getting that like, mm, this one Pixar's in a bag up, you know, like this wasn't that I 100% agree. And also I think before Disney bought them, that's why I would take them so long because they would actually sit down and probably map and plan and rewrite and rewrite until they got to the point where they could get this. And I feel like when a company like Pixar, and I'm sure they always were, though, I don't want to paint them with rose colored glasses, but when they get in, when you get bought by Disney, you are so looking at the ones and zeros, the X's and O's, the, the, the negatives and the positive when it comes to the balance sheet. And I feel like things where went, the lesson they got from putting out some heartfelt movies that did not garner support had to be notes from Disney. Like, okay, so maybe just stop like, like, hey, you guys, Cocoa, like didn't, like, it didn't even matter what the reviews was. It didn't make that frozen money. So y'all gonna make frozen too. And there'll never be a Cocoa too. And maybe now I'm not, like I said, I don't want to pay with rose colored glasses because maybe if Disney doesn't buy them and they put those out, they, then they can't even afford to make another, because, you know, now it's like two flops and the studios out of business is being sold. So I don't know that this would change the entire direction, but like some of these ones where they tried to like add these layered, you know, like, okay, let's put a lesbian couple in light year instead of going, okay, well, we really didn't have a strong enough story for light year. They're going to go, no, the reason they make money is because we tried to do something with the lesbian couple. So let's just stop layering real life into these stories. Uh, turning red, another like, I thought was great, but I know there are a lot of people don't like it. Some people don't like it, but I thought it was great. It was hilarious. But it was, we could only watch it at home and whatever the return on that number was, they probably like, okay, so enough with that. It's all, uh, uh, Elio last year. Like it's almost a miracle that this one came out with an Asian girl as a protagonist because it did, you know, you just had this feeling with, and you're seeing clips of these in it. I'm reading clips from these interviews with the brass there and they're all kind of having these quotes of like, yeah, we got to get out of the therapy business. We don't want people feeling like they got to go to therapy when they watch our movies. And I'm like, Oh, is this from Disney or is this because I don't know, like the lessons y'all are learning to me are the opposite of the ones I'm taking. And I think one of these lessons is let's stop layering these films so deep. So I think that's why this movie turned out to be a very simple take your kid to see it. The kid will get more out of it than you will. And you'll basically get nothing out of it. Right. That's how this felt for me. Yeah. And like you say, it depends on, like you said, the lessons they learned, in particular with them pumping shit out so quickly, they don't have the time to, to like layer it like they used to do. Right. And so it's going to be one of the times where that's why you hear a lot of adults complaining because I took my child to see this movie. This is a fucking boring pointless ass movie that I go take them to see all the time. So like, like that's why you see a lot of parents kind of turning against Pixar because Pixar was one of those things where it was an event for the child, but it also was a bit for the parent. But once you kind of strip away the things that kind of gets the parents involved, they go, OK, now this is some more mind numbing shit that I got to take my child to like, like, like, yeah, I hear what you say. I'm not saying wrong. I was thinking, I was thinking this more. So what I'm thinking, my guess is that it's actually more like the people with kids, I think have less of an issue with this because they like the idea of cool, nothing deep in this movie. My kids don't like it either way. Right. And I don't have, you know, like I can just veg out for an hour and a half and my kid enjoyed the movie and I'm just happy. Like I think about people like Damon from IGN's Game Scoop. And when he talks about taking his kids to movies, a lot of times he don't sound like it like it's not he don't even sound like it matters if he didn't like it. He's like, oh, my kid liked it. And that's kind of bad. And so what I'm saying is I think it's people like us, like, I'm not going for a kid. I'm going for me. Right. And like there was a time when I see a Pixar movie and I'm like, yeah, it doesn't matter if it if it's for all ages. I know there's going to have some deep stuff in there for people my age. Now I don't feel like that anymore. You could go to a Pixar movie and it's a crapshoot. Are you going to get inside out and you go, wow, man, made me cry. Or are you going to get Elio where you like felt like they didn't really want to go too deep? Right. And it's also one of those things that's not funny for me. Roger asked me and I was like, yeah, because I seen I was like, I don't even know if I want to go see. Yeah, it's almost a turn off. Not funny when you see it. You go, you know, because it's going with it. Well, well, shit, if it's going to be like that's like, I'll just watch it on streaming, like what's the point in taking the extra effort to go if it's going to be something that I don't want to say not catered towards me because it's all for children. But if you're not going to hit that second, that second level, I'll watch you like I watch a Scooby Doo movie. Like why, why, why, why am I taking the extra effort? Yeah. But once again, it's a negative if you're an adult like me and Karen, but I think it's a positive if you've got kids or you are a kid. It's like, cool, simple movie, tree animals better. You know, let's go. Right. OK. For me, if we kind of talked about this before, our parents, we got zero of her parents. And that was a problem. We basically got her mama dropping her off fussing, dropping off our mama. And you basically got a phone call when they was about to move. And that's it. You don't you don't get to see a dad. You don't get to. And you basically seen the mom for a split second when she was driving off. And like the grandma was supposed to be that connection. Cool. But you don't go into any depths or any details about her childhood. And like it's a very odd decision. Yes, it was. And I and I, you know what, the extra 15 minutes I read the review, spent time with a family. You know, it felt like they were trying to say the grandma was her connection to her family. And, you know, with the grandma dying off screen and the rest of the movie here being an adult and you only see the grandma and a couple of flashbacks. And I almost felt like they said we got to have the obligatory Pixar death. But but because they didn't really do a good job laying that out. Yeah, it was just kind of like, OK, and maybe there was a choice that they said, we don't want people crying in this one. I don't know. I thought they didn't set up the villains well enough. And this is kind of a film without a real villain. Agreed. You get the ant or the butterfly that turns out to be like, I'm going to destroy the whole world, but they don't do anything to set that character up. And it's almost like a comedic like, ha, ha, he was going to destroy the world, which then immediately means that all these other people aren't that bad. The mayor is not that bad. Right. The scientists, of course, aren't bad at all. They're just trying to stop Mabel from from messing her own life up. You know, like it just I feel like it needed some presence that was a little bit more menacing. And I don't think this film has it. And I think a good villain would have elevated this film to the next level. But it would have required probably making Mayor Jerry way more evil instead of like kind of doting and bumbling and comedic. So I don't know. I feel like the lack of a strong villain hurt the film for me. I 100 percent agree. And it's also, I could say, one of those things where they made a choice since we're not going to get heartfelt. I guarantee you they wrote a version. Yes, you know, they have all types of versions. Get into that version filling in all these holes. It was like scrap this, scrap this, take this out, take this out. And not trying funny in my mind. You probably took out a lot of the heart or a lot of the things that would have connected people to the movie. And you was like, I'm making short. And it really wasn't even that short. You could have had more, actually. But you was like, OK, I will hour and, you know, 40, 40, 45 minutes. All right, here's the movie. Yeah. Anything else? Dislikes. OK. The last thing for me is the messaging was a little all over the place. I really wasn't sure what that like I I took a general, like be nice to animals approach. But I was like, I wasn't sure what they were. They were going with it. Like the animals saved the town by opening the water from the dam. And it's like, oh, we shouldn't have been bad to the animals. Like Mayor Jerry has like a change of heart so fast. It's like it's almost it's not earned. Yeah, it's like he just put the help in. I was like, oh, I'm an animal and I'm helping now. It was so like, I don't know. The messaging was weird and it definitely doesn't stand to like any deep scrutiny. But the general vibes were nice. But I feel like even a kid would be like, hey, what? Well, so they're not going to have a highway because they couldn't figure out a way to not mess the animals up or like, I don't know. And the animals also kind of seem fine without having that space. Like they never really said why that space other than that's what me and my grandma went. Why it needed to stay the way it was. I feel like there's just something missing. Like if they could have added like a historical element or a cultural element or something that made you go, this is a sacred place and we're giving all this up. And I don't know, man. It just it never, I don't know. Like maybe it's a koi pond. I'm just trying to think of something, but it just never really comes up as well as like they they did a lot to make this character not overly like ethnic like she doesn't lean in to being an Asian character pretty much in any way. And I feel like I just wonder how much of that is a mandate from up top because Pixar used to be, I mean, shit, they had the motherfucking dumpling thing that was just a 15 minute short before movie. And it was beautiful and it will introduce you to these different cultures. And I feel like they're going away from that. So maybe even with Elio, it felt like very little of that felt about being like a Latino in America, even though the movie's about immigration. So I don't know, man. Zero to five. This gets a two point five, two point five right in the middle. Yeah, I'm a little bit higher on it than you. I think I would give it like a three out of five. It's it I mean, ultimately, it's just for kids. And I just think I think a kid watching this might give it a five or four. Like, great. But I just, you know, I don't and certain ages and stuff. But yeah, it just wasn't like I can't in any. I can't in clear conscience give this the same rate and I would give to like turning red or inside out or a cocoa or. Yeah, some of these higher like really like their best work, you know, your Toy Story fours or whatever the one with the maybe is three. Yeah, I just yeah, I can't. This is more like light year to me where it's like, OK, like, all right. You did that. Yeah, like I guess you guys live to fight another day or whatever. But yeah, that's our review for that. But we got comments on some reviews we did before. Sean left a comment on Sportmove Review 567, The Running Man. I know I'm a little late to the party, but those research papers aren't going to write themselves and those student papers aren't going to grade themselves. I saw Coleman Domingo and Katie O'Brien and was hyped for this movie. Then they Darth Maul, Katie and Domingo was badly seen. The hunters were bland and the message was shallow. Then they realized that they spent too much time on the wrong stuff and wrap it all up like an over stuff burrito with a paper thin tortilla or YouTube style exposition of YouTube style exposition. Yeah, that that black exploitation dude is that should have got a raspy for that shit like the whatever the bad ones are, raspies, raspies, whatever. Terrible. That shit should have got that was dumb. I agree with Rod that two is the right score for slightly different reasons. The problem wasn't that it was a movie that deserved a two in itself, but that it had all the elements to be a five or squander than to make a three or three and a half level movie. The disappointment and what could have been dragged it down to a lower rating for me. Well, well, as long as you agreed that I was right. Eddington. For Eddington, we got, now this is a review I did with Justin and we got one new comment. Sean says, thanks for helping me finish this movie. I was about 25 minutes and almost ready to give up. So I listened to the podcast. After that, I was motivated to power through another 50 minutes before the movie actually began. The slap is in an hour and 15 minutes into this beast and things start getting crazy and enjoyable. The acting was great. And I would only change four things, compress the first hour and 15 minutes into 15 minutes. I don't know how I don't even want to see the editing floor. What's your, what version? Stop pretending that both sides have compelling arguments, more Pedro. And I wasn't actually fond of the Bob Roberts ending. Well, Justin didn't like the Bob Roberts ending either, but I loved it. And yeah, it's super long. It's super unwell. And I'm just not here for a lot of these, like, you know, isn't our both sides kind of getting on your nerves. Like, no, man, one of these is worse. Ronald Raphael says, I enjoy watching editing when it came out of theater. However, you guys know, there's some of the conflicting feelings that I had after this movie ride. You're right. Ari could have dropped half of the issues from this film and tried to tackle in others to give us an even better movie. Doesn't take from the acting from the whole cast. Everyone was on their A game, even the white kid that went from woke the GOP over his girl, Childish Gambino. This is America 100%. I at first was pissed when that the sheriff didn't die. But a few days afterwards, I was like, that was hell that he was living in and would rather be dead than be watching my ex mother in law. Fuck his caretaker every day while he gets abused by the same dude. This was my first Ari Aster watch good movie, but cut out like 20 minutes. Yeah, way too much in here. Yeah. So there's so many issues. I'm just like, another one, like you, you don't have time to tackle that. Also, I wasn't ready for another Pedro Pascal death. Like, come on, people stop it. That's all he want. He just like to sign up the shit and die. I think he got a good hustle. Yeah, dude, he gets a full pay for half the time. Right. Avertar, fire and ash. Mary Christmas says, paid in full, riding Karen. I have thoroughly enjoyed the avatar movies that are beautiful and immersive. That said, because I'm so emotionally affected by seeing animal deaths. Yes, creatures that do not really exist. Deaths I'm unable to enjoy them as much as I could. I didn't see the way of water in theater because of this. And when I streamed it, I fast forwarded fight scenes. So I didn't have to witness creature death being harmed or died. I may see this in the theater. So wish me luck. Thanks for this awesome review. That's wild. I've never heard of that before. Just animals, not people. Um, well, I guess that's why we go to the movies, guys, because heartbreak feel good in a place like this. Apparently so. Sean says, went to see this one in a theater was the experience. While I think this one offered more depth in the previous installments, it felt so long. A good editor would have really helped bring this movie under control and made it better. It will be interesting to see what the world looks like in the next installment as so many Navi died and most of the humans died in this one. Say like, it says, nigga, I see you, Jim. I wouldn't call myself an avatar hater as I was just not into those like Jim, not avatar endeavors. And while foreign ash doesn't really introduce any newish elements, it makes up for that with the inclusion of Varang and Steven. Get me that fire, pussy, Lange's, uh, smart miles, court rich still in some of her moments. That camp scene between the two of them is a scene I will not unsee. And I ate it to fuck up like miles on the trippy ride. And returning to cast is pretty good. Even spider, who I will say I did did better respond to better than his prior entry looks. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I and I they made me like spider by making a herby races against them. And I was like, OK, that's that's too far. I don't mind me, the audience being racist against spider, but you can't be. But I don't need my protagonist doing it. Right. Looks amazing. Of course. Yeah. I really like the agenda officially over, which brings me to the overdone conversation. These films not having cultural impact. And I say that to that cultural impact is whatever people want it to be. Money, fandom, quotes, etc. Avatar's cultural impact is pretty much existing from the gaze of big dick Jim and people like him. I like him. Social media tries to undermine him as a one dimensional person, but I vehemently disagree with that premise. Making hits like Aliens, Abyss, True Lives, Titanic, Terminators, one and two are pretty are pretty cultural relevance. And these films from Jim are his MCU shit. He's always wanted to make since the nineties and his cranky Canadian ass is cooking and God bless him. He makes successful blue people blue people films over three hours and they make bank have our witness better scripts than the one provided here. Yes. But if the character is able to overcome that again, it's why Lang is particular is excellent here. I'll even get Sam worth it in his flowers as well. His best performance out of three release then it's kind of moot. I also kind of funny how this shit was anti IP back in 2009. When critics were eating it up and now and with two new entries, they're sick of it now. Sound familiar? Oh, yeah, it was the it was the let's get we need new big original stories like Avatar. And now that it's been successful and made out of money. They're like, that's who asked for this? Right. But anyway, I dug it. Saw it twice, can't wait for the 4K release. And if we make it to 2029 and 2031, my black ass be that for four and five. Ron and Rafael says, Happy Holidays everyone who enjoys small movie reviews. James Cameron had me in the theater at 9 30 AM with my 3D glasses on. And I wasn't disappointed. But before I speak on the movie, y'all movie theater is the problem. Every time I'm hearing all these adverts that aren't movies, I'm like, how much more money do y'all need? Agreed. Anyway, back to the favorite blue folk. You're right. It's good to have a simple plot once in a while. That looks great. I understand courage, getting the taste of Navi Poonani and never returning back to the humanity. I'm not making a case, but I get it. Ash on Ash love, like father, like son. Also stopped hating spider. I stopped hating from spider too. I said, kill him, Jake. Do it. I see you spider. My only issue is he was sure love's taking her time until enough Navi done being killed before activating. Beats, niggas dying and I'm holding a pee, despite waiting an hour, 20 minutes before ordering my drink. That's how I was like, come on, James, my man, cut out 30 minutes for the next avatar. God damn it. I'll be there opening night or morning, but no drinking, not a damn. I miss young bladder. Do better, Mr. Cameron. By the way, I've shaken my head and saying, Ryder, Karen are really in apocalyptic, at an apocalyptic theater, getting weird ass commercials and no Avengers doomsday before you really recalled. And I said, Prius be, we're going to be all right. Yeah, I forgot because we watched those things on YouTube. So I almost forgot to be like, oh yeah, we saw these. We saw some of these in theaters. And yes, from page, why you asked from Patreon says, I love the visuals, but there was too much spider. Spite, I think that means spider. They don't like spider. Legend of O.T. was a review I did with just me and Justin. And it's the last one y'all have comments for. Sayla Agni says has the aesthetics, but not the heart. I was probably one of seven people to see this forgotten film in theaters back during the spring and creature designs are nice, but it's just not a fun watch. I agree. I agree, man. It's like everything on paper. It's like going on a date with somebody that looks amazing in their picture or something and then just like, oh, there's no there there. So the King says, listening, you and Justin talk about Willem Dafoe being in this movie reminds me of the quote that's been attributed to Michael Kane when they asked him about taking a part in Jaws for Kane supposedly said, I've never seen the movie, but I'm told that it's awful. I have, however, seen the house that it bought me and it's lovely. Well, there you go. That's hilarious. All right, y'all, that's it for this episode of Sportbrew Reviews. We'll be back next time we review a movie until next time. Peace. Peace.