#651 - Ella Langley

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Finding Emily Only in Cinema's Friday Book tickets now Just a reminder that tickets for Busboys, the movie with myself and David Spade are on sale right now Pre-sale tickets, you can get them It's in theaters April 17th but if you get tickets now it'll show the movie theaters that we're gonna sell them or that they are selling and then we can expand to more theaters so if you know when you're gonna go and you can support, that would be great and no pressure if you can't Again, the pre-sale tickets are available Busboysmovie.com I'm excited, thank you Today's guest is one of the biggest country artists in the game right now and I think for the future she's got that power in her voice she's got that, you know, it's raw but refined It's delightful Her new album, Dandelion, is out Friday, April 10th Wherever you stream music and she'll be taking it on tour as well I'm excited to sit down today with the one of one, Miss Ella Langley And it's a little warm here, do y'all feel that? I feel great Damn, alright You feel that you want a little flow? A little brother He ordered it, yeah, I know he is, I met him on the way in You meet the whole family now, pretty much Hey, I have I have, that guy was fresh off the damn boat he seemed like he had some real grit to him We'll talk about him You could say that Yeah He do He do, yeah, he do Yeah, I met y'all's granddaddy, he was a real He definitely seemed like he could just fix a flat tire with his tongue that guy had some grit in him What? I mean, not like in a pervert way, just I mean he seemed like he could just hold a car up while somebody fixed a tire He does love cars Does he really? Yeah I didn't know that Tesla's, big Tesla guy He is? He's like one of them future babies or whatever Sure, yeah But I mean, he's like a guy that I don't know, I've pictured him more of like a garage type of guy, maybe I don't know, maybe I didn't He said he went to see the Grateful Dead, I think I remember him saying Yeah, he's my hippie grandpa Okay Yeah, so my parents are split in two kinda like my mom's, you met her too Oh yeah, I met your mom Yeah, you did, you did me Dude, I met your mom, I talked to her for probably almost 20 minutes I know, I came in and you were hanging out with my mom and my grandpa Yes What's going on here? I don't know what was going on Maybe it's my real family Yeah, it was at Jelly Roll show Linies Jelly Roll was there though Yeah And you were on it too I walked out there You sang Yeah, yeah You guys did a great job, it was awesome That was cool Yeah, it was cool She's so good Yeah, she is just really And she like kind of embraced, I think some people get to certain points in their career where they kind of embrace being this like thing that's bigger than them And I think she like, she's done that kinda Yeah, she's so good at giving her all the time Yeah I feel like I have to have time away like recluse time And if I don't get that then I'm like an insane person even more than usual really That's how I am Yeah, but Lainey dude, she just goes and goes and goes Like even after the CMA awards we went to her bar afterwards Here she is in her last outfit Or camo outfit, you know like the cape, the badass thing she had on I haven't seen that, bring up that camo She's in a damn camo cape Yeah, it was really good I love that outfit But she's in there shaking everyone's hand You know, meeting everyone She's just hosted the awards by herself and running around Yeah, she just goes Yes Oh, she looks like a nice beautiful duck blind, I feel like Yeah I mean I've bet a lot of fellas would show up to want to hunt for that I think But anyway, she's also married I think But anyway, sorry, what are we talking about here? Yeah, almost Okay, let me think about where we should start from, sorry Did you grow up in church? I did, I don't think it was like the best church or whatever though What kind, what denomination? It was like six, I think maybe six Baptist or something, I'm not even sure It was like Six Baptist? It was like one of the, it was not, it was like One of them It was, yeah It was pretty, it was wild Yeah, no, I grew up with Southern Baptist You did? Yeah Oh gosh, really, really small church It started in a barn The house that I also grew up in, my dad grew up in And there was an old barn across the street And it started in Haybells on that barn And then they moved it to a church and I mean every Sunday and Wednesday You were in there? I was 18 years old, yeah Was it a big part of your social life too? Yeah, yeah, I was homeschooled for some years So pretty much all we did was go to church No, in what state were you homeschooled in? Alabama? Yeah, South Alabama Ooh It's Montgomery That's one place I don't know if I would accept homeschooling in to be honest Overall We didn't do any much school, you know Yeah We just played outside Oh yeah, but that's sometimes the best school It really was Oh It's like my imagination got to live longer than most Yeah, that's a good point because you kind of take kids and you put them in like this It's almost like being in a laboratory at a school Yeah Like you're sitting under them, there's lights or whatever Some kids eating paste or whatever and you're supposed to like not say something Yeah, I got in trouble a lot I went to kindergarten in first grade and I was always in trouble Like what was the crime you were guilty of? Talking, distracting others Yeah dude Bro, how great was that in school when you got back on your thing? Distracting others Distracting others I had like a designated seat in the corner It was like this little green metal desk and it was facing the corner and I just like sit over there Oh I know Distracting others And what do you think you were distracted them from probably? I don't know Anything, just talking And were you trying to get people to see you you think or you were just you had something to say? What was going on near Ella Langley? I just think that school is boring for me I did not like that God I did not like it at all The whole time NAPS hated it What do you mean you have to sit still for this one? Dude, we had this lady named Miss Robin She kind of had hair like hers a little bit And she would on that time when Barude's asleep she'd come over and kind of kick me a little bit And she'd let me go out with her and watch her smoke cigarettes and shit So I mean she's pretty good Yeah, mine She was cool and her husband was apparently he had some domestic charges or whatever But anyway, she let me spend time with her and watch her smoke I mean, I needed it Yeah Like you're a confidant at a young age Yeah dude, I was just sitting there That makes sense Just leaning on this tire of this car Just like life lessons as lady, you know, you're like well, you know what I would do is like Yeah, Carl is a piece of shit, you know, just helping her out but she would smoke And she had this kind of like this kind of country You know, sometimes when they get that feathered real country feathered look, you know When it has a Like ferrificity A lot of feathers, yeah A lot of feathers going on Just a damn mallard of a woman, you know Yeah, but I remember that, that was a good time I remember But yeah, when you got distracting others was just like, gosh Yeah And you were guilty of it too Yeah, yeah I had a bunch of eye surgeries when I was young And so like for the muscles in my eyes And what happened, you had bad eye muscles? Yeah, sometimes I just be a little cross-eyed Uh-uh Yeah, sometimes Oh god You know, well, yeah And you were in the choir too, was you just that cross-eyed girl to sing in the choir? Everywhere I was, yeah Oh Everywhere to sing in my heart out But then I had some surgeries and then teachers like she just is not paying attention in here So, homeschooled until sixth grade and then seventh grade Went back to the same high school my dad went to Graduated with 32 kids But how could you pay attention if your eyes weren't even team like Dutties or whatever No, the doctor described it to me, I just had another one like two Maybe three years ago Um, and it's kind of brutal, honestly like they have to take your eyeballs out Your line I swear it in Oh god Gotta get in there, it's crazy And they go inside Yeah, get in there What's it called? I don't know Damn I just called it eye surgeries Um Yes Yeah Yeah, that's fair But she described it to me like horse and carriage, you know, and you have two horses and One can't be going this way and one can't be going this way That is not gonna work, you know, so they gotta learn to work together And mine just never did And now you got them trusty steeds in your face, huh? Yeah, sometimes I slip up, but it's alright, that's just good character You can just go like that Yeah, yeah, I just look at everybody like this, you know what I mean Yeah, get him in line Keep winking a lot Yeah, that's wild Did y'all have school dances at it? Well, I guess you've used homeschool, but if you got it, once you went to your dad's school, the same school he went to, did you guys have dances at school? Yeah, it was like normal school Did y'all have like Sadie Hawkins and stuff like that, was like kind of Southern style or what was the No, it wasn't like a rich private school, like this is out in the country Sadie Hawkins, I guess You had to buy a t-shirt or something, like the girl had to ask the guy, and he had to get him a shirt that matched, you had to do matching shirts or whatever You didn't have it? But he got a dance, what did y'all do with only that many students in the class? We just danced, I don't know, we just danced around Usually we didn't stay that long, we'd go to like a bonfire or something afterwards But was it hard to date, like in a school that small, was it hard to fault, like what was the energy like that? I mean you've known all these people your whole life, you know, what they're driving, you know, what their parents drive, I mean, you know how it is That's why I really, this town and this job is very similar to a small town You get used to, like I kind of look at the fame thing like that now, you know, because when you're in a small town, like, I would hear shit about me all the time, I'm like, I did what? You know, and I don't know, you just get used to that, so Do you think not being from Nashville is better coming into this kind of place? Like when you get here, does it get so like, is like the music scene for lack of a better term? Is it more like, is it so some type of way, if you're from Nashville, do you think it feels different? Probably, I mean, Aaron's from Nashville, I mean, he's been here the whole time But I'm wondering, I guess I was like, does he feel like more of a pressure, more responsive, but I'm wondering, I guess I was wondering if anything's different, like if you come from an outside group, does it feel tougher, does it feel easier maybe, or do you? I think people probably in your town that you're from look at you a little crazier, you know, I'm like 16 years old playing in Weddens, 18 years old, you know, I went to Auburn for two years, but I was playing shows the whole time Was that your first shows down there? No, actually my first show was at this tiny little bar called Beslos, it's this lake in Alabama, it's called Lake Martin, but there's all these little Dude, I've been on Lake Martin, bring up Lake Martin, dude, I can't even believe you said Lake Martin Yeah, this is the lake I grew up going to every summer, it's one of the actually the biggest man-made lakes I believe in the, I want to say the world, it's not the world, but it's I think North America at least It could be the world, if you're from Alabama that is the damn world, I remember when going to Florida it would seem like it was like, God, somebody had went to damn mall, like they'd done it, like if somebody come back from summertime and they'd gone to Florida They had just done it, they had won the world, yes, or they had a shirt on said Florida or Hard Rock, one of those, Hard Rock Deaths there or whatever, yes, the pain was whatever they do with the little air gun, what is it? Yeah, that shit, airbrush, yeah, Ricky's in destiny or whatever, yeah, six sunglasses, God, and just a fist jumping across the back of something, everyone has like a tan line from the weird little band everywhere and pulls your hair the whole time, God, Lake Martin in Alabama is considered the world's largest man-made lake, wow, upon its completion in 1926, created by the Martindam on the Talapusa River, it covers approximately 40,000 to 44,000 acres, yeah, I had a girlfriend when I was a child and we went out there and her family had a lake house out there and we'd go out there, do like, what's it called when you're kind of like Uh, no, no, when you're behind the, uh, you're like on the board and you're like behind the, oh, a knee board, yeah, knee board and leg board and all of it, yeah, full body board, foot board and foot board and yeah, just board, we just bored and you see somebody, oh, you'd see somebody out there on a fucking piece of plywood out there just managing that bitch along the way, it was beautiful out there, yeah, that's what we did all summer, yeah, I loved it and lake life at like lake life is different to strange shit happens out there, especially late life in the country, yeah, There's some real perverts out there too, I will say that, some damp perverts or whatever, um, yeah, yeah, rednecks everywhere, yeah, Easter just happened, did you guys, um, do you all do eggs for Easter? Deviled eggs, really? Yeah, you don't ever painted eggs rolling up? No, yeah, of course we did, yeah, dot them, painted them, with that little kid or whatever, yeah, so fun, yeah dude, that was really nice, but what do you do with them afterwards? I don't know, I think your grandpa would eat them or something, a lot of times we would drop them at like a senior center or something, cause regular people were not having like hard boiled eggs, that was more like a senior dessert, kind of a senior delicacy, I think. Deviled eggs are amazing, do you like them? I've had them once or twice, but I haven't really had them when I cared, I think. They had a rule at church that you could only have two doubled eggs on your first go, because people would find over them, they really would, we'd have potluck every Wednesday, so like best southern food you can think of like all these old women in there, just cobblers and casseroles. Were people gambling at the, did they have that kind of thing too? Sometimes there's like a potluck where they gamble at a church for fun reason? No, they try not to gamble, that's the thing, southern pepsis, they try. Dude, the church bus, yeah, I don't know what was going on with it, I do remember the church bus, they had like, it might have been like Seventh Day, Seventh Baptist or Seventh Day Advertis, Advern, and then, but they would put those circus peanuts in wine and the kids could have those during communion, you know those orange circus peanuts that your grandparents had? Disgusting. But they're not, if you soak them in like a, a wine, like a religious wine, they're, they're not, they're good, they're pretty good when you're a kid, you know. I've never seen that before. Yeah, they would have like a wine glass and you'd get one out of there and that was just for the children. Did y'all ever go to judgment houses? No, what was it? It's like, they do it around Halloween. Okay. It's like a haunted house. Yeah. Four Christians, I guess. Ooh. Very scary. Remember our youth group took us. You get in there and it's like this car crash scene and it's pretty much like convincing you that, yes, convincing you that like, you could die the second you walk out of here. So you better, better settle up. You better get saved, huh? You better get saved and I had already been saved. But going through this affected me so bad that at the end they were like, anyone, if you're not sure, you know, to sit down and talk. It's all like raised my hand, you know, and I sat down with the guy at the table in the booth and we had the whole conversation. I'll never forget coming home and my dad was laying on the couch watching Titanic and he, I said, dad, I need to talk to you about something. And I was like, I got, I got saved again tonight and he like, my dad pauses the TV. He's pissed off about something. You know what I mean? He's like, that's how you know. It's like, he said, you did what? I was like, dad, I just got so scared at this thing. He's like, baby, you know, immediately just like when you are kind of a dumb ass because, you know, that's the whole point of being saved. You had to get saved twice. Yeah, I was so scared. It was so scary. Hell. Yeah. But you seem like a little bit of that danger, baby, you know, you've always seen my, I mean, I don't know you that, I don't know you very well. But to me, you've seemed like kind of like that danger, baby, you know, to seem like a dang, like a hell's angel that got, you know, just took off. You know, you just took over a damn guitar city, you know, like it just, you know, we just got went haywiring and Gibson store, you know, you just seem like that. Like, yeah, maybe you needed it two times. I was maybe fearless, I think is what it is. I don't know. I'm not. You feel that. Yeah. You feel risky or you feel fearless? I definitely take a lot of risks. And I do have a lot of fears, which is funny that I think that, but I think. I don't know. I don't necessarily view myself as the same as I think everyone views me, which is funny. But yeah, I say fearless would be the word. I don't know. I'm just not afraid to take a chance on something, whatever it wants. I want to, if I want to do it, then I just know like I'm going to do it. I don't really, even if part of me doesn't want to, like I remember thinking as a kid with this music thing, like, it seems like a lot. I'm just like, are we sure? That's really what we want to do. And it's like, there's this thing inside of me that's like, if you don't do it, you're going to hate your life for your whole entire life. And so I was like, okay, but that still seems like a lot. But I just know when I make my mind up. I don't know. It seems like that. I mean, just from an outsider's perspective, you just seem like, you know what's going on. Dang it. Try to act like it. Yeah. But sometimes that's part of it. I think sometimes that's the whole life. It's really the whole thing. Yeah. It's like, sometimes it's like pretending till the rest of you shows up and joins you. No one's ever lived life before. Not one person has lived life before. You know what I mean? This is my first attempt at life as a human being. You know what I mean? And so it's yours and everyone else's and it's funny. Just, I think people forget that. Yeah. There's never a lot of credit for that. It's never like, So I was like, is that first go? We hold people to a lot of like serious stuff and we're never like, yeah, you know what? Just first time. Just first time. Maybe we need to nap. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. And first of all, if they had naps for adults for everybody, it would all be so nice. Yeah. But a nap goes one or two ways for me. I either wake up and I'm like, I'm so glad that I got that or I wake up and I'm hell on earth. Really? Mad upset. Wow. My day is kind of real. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I'm like, I just wish I go back to sleep. It's one of those things you either power through it or you don't. Well, you just sound damn volatile, Ella. I'm not. You're not? You sure? I think you're the only one saying that. I could be sure. You might be right. You might be right. Maybe this is that people have a perception of you that's not exact, you know, or that, I mean, nobody's perception of somebody else is, but are rarely, but yeah, maybe people have a perception of you. Did, um, whenever you were first doing shows, did they ever have like some fights at your shows or anything like that? Like were you in some real honky-tonks? Yeah, I've played every kind of show you can possibly imagine. Same, same. Like, I mean, restaurants, weird little wing sports bar things. Funeral? Oh yeah, funerals, so many funerals. Weddings. I started out with weddings. That's my first gig ever. Um, who would ever hire a 15 year old to play while you're walking down the aisle? I don't know. If they're decent maybe, or if they're cheap. I don't know. Yeah. Well, 200 bucks, baby. Okay. And I was like, I am rich. Decent and cheap. That'd be my first album if I ever had one. Um, but I don't know. It was always just. But do they have fights in here? Do they ever have a good, you ever see a good? All the time. Yeah. Yeah. I want one guy get arrested in Tuscaloosa selling Coke right in front of me on the floor. There I am just still playing, you know. No way. Yeah. Random. I played a lot before Obama. You choose a prison I can tell, huh? Yeah. I mean. That's crazy. I played, um, one of my last gigs I played, I fell through the stage like my last cover gigs. I did that for a while. And I did never like. Would it like a finishing act or something? Hmm. Was it like a finishing like? No, I just there, the stage was terrible. It's low budget. Oh, you just want some bad wood or something, huh? Yeah. They put a rug over it thinking if she can't see this whole thing. God. You know. Yeah. But yeah, play pretty much any and everything. And what is this? Oh, that's you right there? Oh, wow. Yeah, it is, I guess. Oh, that's at my, um, family reunion. I think I was like five, four or five. Is that on like Martin? No, that's in Brantley, Alabama. That's way out in the country. Funny about this is when we, I remember my, when we pulled up here and my dad was like, we got the family reunion down here at the whale, a buried whale out here. And as a kid, I was like, a buried whale. Like, why would they bury a whale all the way out here? Yeah. And you know, it, I asked my dad about that. And he said, I was saying, well, well, so. A buried whale out there. Dude, yeah, I remember I used to have to clean out wishing wells in our area. They had this thing where they was trying to do like, I guess, make more money. I guess make money for the area or something or like a, get a tourist thing. And so they had, they installed like a lot of wishing wells and stuff. And I got a job when summer cleaning them out. So you get down there and have to get down in them. Yeah. I've never seen that happen. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody gets in there and I had very small kind of lean wrists and everything at the time and said, let me get down in there and you'd bring up all the stuff and like put it on the side and you got to keep some of the change. But then some of it you had to give to the city. But you find a lot of people, a lot of just throw a lot of junk down the recyclables, kind of a lot of to go orders to go barbecue kind of seem like anyway. You got to keep some of the change. Yeah. You just got to pick out which ones you kept. No, they kind of, you gave it to them and, and then they let you, they kind of gave you some back. All right. Well, that's kind of nice. It's a good gig. I liked it. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. And I found a sword in there too. Like a, I don't want to say, oh, what? Yeah. I found like a, I think it was. What kind of sword? 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So a lot of college activity over there. Yep. And was your family an Auburn fan growing up then? Yeah. My mom's from Michigan, like I said, so she just kind of never really cared about that stuff. My dad was an Auburn fan, but yeah, that's kind of our football thing. It's Alabama or Auburn. Yeah. There's no NFL team in Alabama. So yeah. And does your folks, your folks are still together? Yeah. Yes, they are. And do you think like what makes you laugh about that? It's been a wild ride, but I haven't given up. Nope. Perseverance. Pretty cool. It is really cool. It's really cool to see how they are now. Cause I think there were a lot of years we were all like, y'all sure you like each other, you know? Yeah. But they did. They really stuck it out. God. Mm-hmm. Was there like a time when your parents were like, that they always say like, oh, well, we knew when this happened that she was going to be a, did they have that kind of thing, you know? We're like, we knew when she, you know? My grandparents on my dad's side pretty much raised me at their house. They lived over there. They, they, my grandpa could play anything by ear. He was, they were a lot older. My grandma was 45 when she had my dad. Oh, wow. Yeah. But I was like the first girl in the family and I started to match pitch with her as a baby. And so she figured out I could sing and she's just like singing was her thing. And my grandpa could, like I said, play any instrument by ear. And so at their house, that's all we did. Like, you was a little baby bird. Oh yeah. That's all we did. And they were like, this is what she's going to do. And so they, yeah, that's my grandpa right there. And they just put you out on the windowsill out there. I sang at church a lot. I learned how to read from singing hymnals. But yeah, I mean, all I did, and I really just, the whole time, like my whole family, we all just really, this was just going to do. They just knew it. The whole time. Was there a scary point for you? Like when you kind of like got a little bit spooked, I remember whenever I met you at one thing, I do remember you saying is that I just knew that this is what I was, this is what I was doing, right? I was so determined. And I've talked to like, Trey Lewis, I know you and him are friends and he mentioned that right? Whenever I ran into him one night, we were watching your show at the knitting factory, maybe? Yeah. Some place I can't remember. Right? I've been in the Bluebird or Threes. I don't know. I'm terrible at remembering these. It was a musical place. And he said, she just always been so determined, right? Was there a part though when you like, even your own determination came up against like, this just feels like it's going to be tougher than I thought or I don't know if this is the way or did it never get to that point for you? I think I always knew it was going to be tough. I mean, how many people move to this town in a day to do this job? I don't know. There's just, it's scary all the time because I love it. It's truly a part of who I am. My whole life I've done it and wanted to do it and thought about it every day. Daydreamed, every time I'm in the car, I mean, hours and hours alone, dropping from gigs. Like dreaming about what? Just doing this, literally doing what I'm doing, like playing on stages and writing songs and getting to do this craft for a living. And I just feel like not everything always works out for me in my life. So I like to leave like very little room for error, you know? And so I think like just keeping my head down and definitely my toughest critic, you know, like when I watch something, I'm never like, oh yeah, I crushed that. Never, ever, very rarely do I walk off stage and I'm like, I was amazing out there. I'm always just like, dude, I was, what was that shit that I just said? That was so, what was the fuck is wrong with me? Like, why would I say that? Well, it must be crazy because you seem like such a like a loot, like kind of like almost you'll say whatever, you kind of save your... I do, that's the thing. And then to be such a tough critic of that person is a lot of, that's a lot of extra stress, it feels like. Yeah, yeah, I'm getting better at it for sure. Yeah. It's weird when I'm sure you understand this, like looking at yourself through the eyes of others. Like no one should know this many thoughts about themselves. When everyone's like, what superpower do you want? I've never understood when people were like, I want to be able to read minds. Like fuck that, I do not want to know what somebody's thinking. Because half these people, I wouldn't either, dude, especially if you're at like some place and everybody's just a damn pervert or something, you know? Oh yeah, oh no way, man, no way. Even if you're at like, even if you're just at a dang golden crown, no matter where you are, everybody is like, I bet you would read mind you back home. My dad loves a golden crown or a show knees. Dude, my stepdad, he was in one of the wars. And one of them. He would, dude, after they would go to like the golden crown, whatever it was, like Chinese corral or something or like the yellow bin or whatever it was called. He would sit, he would sit my mom in the car and then he would go back in and apologize for fighting these who we thought were like the same ethnicity people when he was in like Ewo Jima or something like that. He'd go back in and apologize every time. Yeah, he would go back in and just kind of say, you know, give his piece, you know? And it was like this moment that he kind of had, you know, where, and I think it's probably like that for some people. That's like they probably went and fought in the war and then the only people they ever saw from that culture again was that like a, when a small restaurant popped up in their town 40 years later, that's got to be crazy. Yeah, they all, I don't know, I can't imagine that. I'm very interested in that. That's one of my favorite things to read about is historical fiction. Yeah. You watch over any of those war movies? Yeah, my dad loves a war movie, Jar Heads. I don't know how many times that's been on in our living room. Oh yeah. Yeah, dude, my uncle, he has the soundtrack to Jar Heads. I'm like, who has the soundtrack to this shit? On CD or what? I think it might be, he said it was Blu-ray. He went, he went like, he went all in on Blu-ray. Yeah. And he lost a lot. Yeah. But yeah, dude, I like some of those war movies. I think it does make you feel something, you know? Yeah, feels like you're learning a little. Feels like you're learning a little, but also yeah. And it makes you feel something. I like something if there's a little bit of loss in something, I like that shit. Yeah, keeps your attention. I like something that's got a little bit of loss in it. Some of your music and probably a decent amount of it to me seems like it's like about kind of like, like, wanting love or hoping for love, but not like kind of being able to make it work or I'm trying to think what I'm trying to say. I think you're doing great. That was a good question so far. They are? Yeah. Thanks, dude. Yeah, I think you're just getting, sometimes I get worried or not. I don't know. I mean, I get nervous. I was so nervous before I came in here today. Were you? So nervous. Yes. I was the most confident person there is. I don't know. You are, you know? Well, I mean, you got to put on the suit. That's true. And the rest of you will show up? That's something that I told you I learned in Southern Baptist and in small town is you learn to put on a face a little bit. You know what I mean? You can't let everyone know everything that's going on all the time, but also it's like, I run out of the ability to do that. So. Will you get burned out of it? Yeah, and I just, that's been something I've had to work really hard on. Is the mental of this game. And I knew the whole time that would be the toughest thing for me. Really? Yeah. Well, you can't pin yourself to the way somebody else operates. That's something that I've done over the years. Like if they can do it, I can do it. I'm not the same person as them, right? And our paths aren't the same. Yeah. And I mean, I've, I've floored it for 200 miles when I had nothing at that time. Well, I think it's because you are similar in the way we were like, you kind of fly through life by the seat of your pants. You know what I mean? And it's like, you're just following your gut on what you should do with your life. And instead of like, you know, if you go to school to be a doctor, like, you know, you do this many years of school to go and you're going to do this. And it's like, we have no idea how this is going to, every single day is different. Every single day something could happen that could change our lives for the best or the worst. And you just never know. Yeah. And so I think like you, you learn the skill to, you know, watch others in the way where you learn, you know, and I think in the beginning it pushed me. I would always like compare my work ethic to Lainey was a great one for me, you know? Yeah. But I don't know how she's super human. I don't know how she does what she does. But yeah, I'm different than that, you know, like I have to go be in my house and recharge. Rest. Yeah. Take time. Same. I gotta do, I mean, I'm getting dang IVs. I'm petting animals for peace or whatever. They have this piece. Yeah. They got a peace pet in place that's out there and you go pet those horses for peace or whatever. I just got some horses. Did you? Yeah. God, I'm thinking about getting a Doberman. It's big, but yeah, it's nothing like that. It's great. It came in riding a Doberman and it was big enough to do that. It's like you found Clifford, but he's a Doberman this time. And Ernest is on the other one, dude. Yeah. Yeah, but he's actually on Clifford. Yeah. He has his grill in for sure. There's like a hundred shades of Ernest. That's the craze. And there's nobody who has like is such a chameleon. I think in humanity is Ernest, you know? What a guy. Oh, my question. So I feel like a lot of your songs are about like wanting to like find a love or connect with love, but also like about like wanting independence, you know? Do you feel like you have like commitment issues when it comes to that kind of stuff? Or do you feel like some of your songs stem from that sort of thing? Or like, do you find like a root, like a common like root for some of your purpose in your music? You know, I think that's the thing that sometimes people think about too much, honestly, where it's like, what is the purpose to everything? What is the what is the finished product? I don't know. I'm only 26. Like, yeah. It's like, I'm just writing about, I'm not going in the room thinking, okay, I need an up tempo song today and I need it to be perfect for radio or I need to write this type of acoustic thing, you know, like I'm going in there and just writing songs like whatever comes out that day comes out, you know, and I'm really big on not forcing, not forcing, you know, just if I feel like I'm in there and I'm not having fun, I'm like, why are we doing this? I somehow got to do the job I've always wanted to do. No way I'm not going to let it be fun when we're sitting in here writing these songs, you know. So, yeah, I don't know. Just sometimes like, I'll have a title that I really want to write or someone in the room will say something and then it's just like, if all of you click on that title, like you got to chase it. So yeah, I mean, and obviously, I mean, maybe in 26 and not married, like, I've been doing Dayton, you know, I've been trying to figure that portion of my life out to you, which is complicated when you have pretty much given your everything to this one thing, you know. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's yeah. I can relate to that. I spend so much time working that yeah, it's like, this was my first love. I liked work the most and because work was reliable. It's like, I knew what I got in. But I put into this, I'm going to get out of this one way or the other and I'll know if it's fair or not. I'll know if it's a fair amount because I'll know how much I put in that that part of myself I can't lie to. So it's like, I'll know. And it's an even, it'll be even. It may not be exactly what I want, but it'll be it will be fair. But you know, you gave it your all. Yes. And to me, I know, I know. And so I know I will expect a certain return. And there's not somebody else there that like when, when it's a human for me, it's like, that's just too, it's like whenever you first want to ride that bike and you're doing that or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And then you just, you forget that like the, you're like turning the handlebars like this. You think they're the pedals and you just hit the, if this starts happening, you're falling, you're going down. You're going down. That's the scariest feeling ever. The worst. Yeah. So many scars from asphalt. And then you hit the neighbor's gate or whatever and somebody just called you like a queer yell, something like that or something. You know, that's the worst I hate when that happens. Yeah. And it's your dad driving by. He definitely your dad. That would definitely my dad. And you haven't even seen him like two years and you're like, this is how he shows up. Yeah. But yeah, that's something I think about knowing what you're going to like, what you put in is what you're going to get out. Do you feel like, cause now you've kind of hit this level of popularity that's a little bit different. And that's kind of scary, right? Yeah. I mean, it's cool. There's a lot of great things. But that to me, that feels interesting because you kind of like, you almost can't put it back in the tube in a way. It's like, you know, like you can't like, once you kind of cross over a certain like threshold of like people knowing you, you kind of can't like, you know, your life can change and maybe, you know, people come and go in popularity, but you kind of can't go back to not being someone that was known. I think that's another one of the hardest parts for me. And it's, I think it's just people treating you differently. Yeah. I just, it's weird when somebody comes up and they're just like, it makes sense to me because if I were to see Stevie Nicks in the grocery store, like I would be a little like, you know, yeah, but it's weird when it's yourself, you know, like someone's come up and they're like, oh my God, I'm going to throw up on your shoes. You're like, whoa, like I am so weird, like just, you know, immediately try to like level myself in a way. But yeah, that's an odd part. But it is cool. I'm starting to, I'm getting past the stage of like, what? Like that, because it was so in the beginning, so new, like it was weird when somebody knew I was or when I'm sitting at the table out to eat with friends or family and somebody's like, hey, can I get seven selfies with you? And I'm like, have like a half a meatball in my mouth. I'm like, bro, that's crazy. Um, Are you having any washed up or you just don't even feel like a certain way? In the bathroom. Have you ever had one to ask you? Is someone in the bathroom? You're like, bro, no, no. And then if you say no, I've had a girl, I was making my whole band do this ab workout routine, we're in P fitness somewhere around the world. And this girl comes up to me mid crunch. She's like, can I have a picture? And then I like, it was in the beginning and now I would be like, probably not right now. Yeah. I'll size whatever, you know what I mean? Just pick, pick better time. But oh yeah. And the winning you'll give it all, you'll give abs. You'll, but then I get up to take the picture with her and she just like, no, no, I just want to take one of you. Oh, that's weird. You ever get that when they're like, want to take one of you and sit with you? And you're like, I was like, no, no, no, if I'm sweating this, you are. Yeah. So you're just what some kind of pervert or whatever, or you're just making a time capsule or something. You don't say you're capturing me to keep. No, I just want to take one of you. Yeah. I'm not doing all that. What's your pose of someone to take one of you? You know, it's, I'll tell you a funny story. I can't. Oh, I'll tell them no. If somebody's like, I just want to take one of you. Yeah, no. I'm like, get it. You get over here, you little urch and you're getting in this bitch with me. If I have to stand here and look like shit, you do. Yeah. Dude, a couple, probably like a year and a half ago, I started to have like, because we would do meet and greets after every shows. And maybe some of this sounds like kind of woe is me. Like I'm about to. You're going to say, and I'm not mean in that. I'm grateful that people come out to shows and, and, and I've been a couple of your shows and I'm great. I'm excited to go to more of them. I'm excited to come to that one in Tuscaloosa where you and Morgan are playing together and then I don't have your, your own tour and your new album. That's going to come out. But, yeah, but I must, I couldn't smile anymore. The smart, the muscles in my mouth. Oh, yes. It's like, yeah, I'm going to start doing that fidget thing. Yes. And then it got to the point where I just didn't even believe it anymore. My mouth, it just, there was some disconnection between like my true feelings and a smile, because these were all like kind of put on smiles. And some of them are real, but you know, you're, you're just like, smile, you know, it is smile, cheese, that type of thing. So I had to start doing this. So in all my, that started. Yes. So in all my pictures, I was like, I have to make another face. And this on me, like it looks a little too like people are going to get scared of the kids are going to kind of be scared a little bit. So I think it's kind of nice. So I'll do like, you know, like. Just anything. Yeah. But cause this just started, that, that. See. Yeah. And just the, the, the close mouth smile was nice. Well, no, no, that was different. You didn't do it the same that time. Let me try one more time. Yeah. Well, no. Kind of close. Try one more time, but don't squint your lips so much. All right. I'm loose. Leave them loose a little. Start from the side. How you came. Okay. Well, what's happening? Nothing much. Yeah. That right there. Thank you. Take a picture of that. Practice. You're an artist. You're a conductor. Well, thank you. She's a conductor. Yeah. I remember the first time I saw was like, cause I didn't know like as your, your popularity. Really? I guess the first time that I met you and I remember I said something like, man, Laney really does such a great job of controlling the stage because I was kind of compliment compliment her cause she really does. And you were, I can't remember what you said, but it was something like, I don't know if I said like something like, no, you were like, you should try running or you should try out running around the stage like that or something. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, first of all, you ain't never ever been to a show. So, you know, I know to show up and be judgmental like that. Yeah. Yeah. And then that, yeah. I think I was just nervous. I kind of move around a little bit. Well, I've thought about that moment multiple times because I'm like, should I move around more? Like, is that it? Like, has you seen things that I should do? Like, no, I thought you should come to rehearsals and let me know. I think I was just nervous and I probably didn't know what to say. And it was a woman and so I was just trying to say something. And maybe it wasn't. Yeah, I just didn't do the best supportive job, probably. Well, it panned out. But yeah, I've seen it since and I'm not even going to weigh in anymore. You're obviously not really like it. No, I really made me think extra hard about that. And I was like, I feel things. I'm lazy on stage. No, I didn't think lazy. I didn't know. I didn't know a little lazy. No, I can't. She run. I don't know how she does it. She does the whole spin thing. Now she does a lot. I told you she is she does a whole like fantasia. Almost like that. Like, yeah, she does. She does that spin thing. Oh, yeah. I would fall down and she's just 100 percent. Just swinging that donkey around. I'm like, what is even going on out here? She has got it. Yeah, that's probably what it is. I ain't got no balance like that. You know what I mean? I ain't even doubt, you know, she's got them ballast tanks on it. She's like set up. Oh, she's a pontoon. I'll tell you that. She's locked in. Yes, she's locked in. But no, what a great person to learn from and be around. And even just to watch like the things that she does and just to notice all those things like, how is she able to engage with people so much, you know? I don't know how Jelly Roll did it. Jelly Roll got burnt out. Jelly is the same way. But he got burnt out. Yeah, I think it happens to everybody. It'll get you. Yeah, no one's no one's actually doing it all. Yeah, I mean, everyone gets burnt out. Yeah. Did was there a moment you kind of had to take it like a step back? You take a vacation? What do you do like for that sort of thing? Have you learned to incorporate that into things? Because you're already back out here. You're going to go on tour again. Yeah. I don't I'm still figuring it out. I think my team is figuring out a little better how to schedule in the time that's needed. But when you're in this boom moment, it's hard to say no. I mean, you're saying no to stuff that I'm like, I do kind of want to do that. You know, but it's like, you know, I'm thinking of things six months down the road. I'm like, I'll be able to do that. And then I get there. I'm like, oh, my gosh, like I'm dying. Why did I do that? What am I doing in this lemonade drinking? Yeah. But then I'm like, if I turn it down, you know, sometimes I'm like, come on. You can't. What's wrong with you? Why you can't do that? You're going to be some people would kill to be like that, you know, and then I have that whole thing. So last year, it just like I said, I think the mental game for me is definitely the hardest part of this job. Like I can do the gigs. I can do the shows. I can do that. And yeah, I don't know the. The burnout, I guess, like thinking you can work through it. I'll fight through it. I'll figure it out. Yeah. And I mean, Lord, we we toured pretty much minus a couple of weeks here and there from 2022 to 2025, you know, and I mean, hot and heavy. Most of that was in a van, you know, and then one bus and we're all packed on there. And it was still like, it just happened so fast. So it's like, we're still doing these things, but these things are happening. And so everyone from the outside is like, man, that's pretty nice. You're like, well, you know, we're still getting there. We're still doing our best. Yeah. And a van, people don't get even enough credit for even being in a damn van. Somebody asked me the other day, they're like, do you miss that? I'm like, hell no, I don't miss that. I think people should get a tax credit for being in a damn van, dude. I see years of that. If I see a van pull up any van and somebody gets out of the back of it. Yeah. I start clapping immediately. Immediately. I don't care what they're doing. I don't care if they are, you know, very religious and that's, you know, when the side doors broken or whatever, or they are just a big family. I always wondered what people thought we were traveling around when they'd see us get out at a gas station. And it was just like me, my photographer, Kaylee, and a whole bunch of tattooed guys just crawling out of a van, looking to shovel, smelling like Doritos, probably. Oh, yeah. And whiskey. Doritos are good at over 50 miles an hour in a day. Yeah. I lived off some gas station food for years. Takedos from the gas station. They're good. They're good in the moment. Yeah. But some of my problems is if you I'll get a bag and then I'll go get him in the middle of the night and get more of them. Yeah. Or you ever get a crunchy one where it just ruined the whole thing. It's like the. Uh-oh. The Takedos. Yeah. I like them or a hot dog. Oh, hot dogs are good, but they're just sometimes they don't. They don't honestly tell you how long they've been on that twirler out there on the little riverboat. They just put them back out there every so often. What is that? They put a bunch of hair curlers together and started to just grill in the bitches and knows what kind of meat is really in there. What are you talking about? Dude, this is some. This ain't no meat. You don't wonder my I have a lady that's like doing my health stuff. You don't think so. The buffalo chicken. You don't think that is. I bet there ain't a half percent of meat in there, baby. This is meatless. They should just taste something warm on the outside of it. But yeah, when you get those Hunt Brothers pizzas, those are the breakfast one. Yeah. Dude, one time I grew up on on Hunt Brothers. Yeah, I think it's Hunt Brothers. Is there an S at the end of it? Was there more than one? There you go, girl. Hunt Brothers. I've been saying it wrong. I'll tell you, brothers. But that's what it is. That's kind of southern stuff. That's how they say it. Have you seen the country hoodlums people? Have you seen those Instagram? Pull them up, dude, if you can, I put them on a page the other day. The what? On my links page. This is kind of a place I grew up. I'll show you right here. Oh, I can't wait to see this. This is like our street. What's you doing, Christy? I'm about to burn his shit. He wants to off shit. I need something to spout. I'm about to make a fucking face with life. I'm gonna hit shit when he was calling me five minutes later. I'm gonna come kill him. Well, Christy, he loves, he loves, glass loves those, those golf clubs. Glass love those golf clubs. This the kind of shit was going on on our street. No, no, you for real? No. And you know what he did probably? Oh, yeah. He done fooled around and he about to find out. That's the kind of shit we need more of, I think. But yeah, this is just the kind of was have you ever seen them country hoodlums? Oh, man. This is like a whole thing. They have probably like two or three hundred clips. Now they put up clips every day and it's just them. It's just like people live in their lives. Oh, like it's real life people. It's not like and this is the one earn people always say this guy or him and earn seem like each other. No, go hit that top left one. Keep him coming. Janet. Miss Janet. He just got baptized, actually. Let's do it. Hey, Jean. And I'll say this, the women are the people they hold together in this group. Usually are. Yeah. But that's kind of I feel like that's kind of enough, man. You know, about four years ago, I was jogging somewhere and it was a pretty good area. It was all right. I don't know. Yeah, there's some couple of halfway houses, but I was going for a jog and I saw a snail out there and he was trying his best. But, you know, they don't even have feet, but they're still going forward. They're, you know, so I picked that snail up and I moved him. I moved him probably 19 inches, brother, saved him a month of travel. I consider that a power move. Just like how hiring Morgan and Morgan is a power move. Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. They have over 100 offices nationwide and more than 1000 lawyers with over $30 billion recovered for over 500,000 clients. Morgan and Morgan has a proven track record of fighting to get you full and fair compensation. That's what they do. If you're ever injured, you can check out Morgan and Morgan. Their fee is free unless they win. For more information, go to for the people.com slash Theo or dial pound law. Pound five to nine from your cell phone. That's f o r the people.com slash Theo or pound law. Pound five to nine. This is a paid advertisement. Do you, um, did y'all have like a fate, like a most popular restaurant in your town growing up? Hmm. Not really. I mean, a lot of chains. Um, like I said, the show needs my dad loves a, a, uh, like a, what do you call it a buffet? Oh yeah. Oh, any buffet, the soft serve ice cream, you gotta get it at the end. At the end. How big can you make your own ice cream cone? Make it tall, baby. Make it long. You like it long. Shownies was something else, dude. And they would give away these stuffed animals upfront and the sewing on them was real bad by the time you got the bitches to the car, they was more of a, they looked, they was starting to give out a little. Did you go to I hop? We went to a hop, but Waffle house. We went to Waffle house. Yeah, dude. At our Waffle house, they had like, it was like our town was like at the end of like the longest bridge in the world for a while anyway. And then they built a death for them, but then that one got tore down. And so we were back. Anyway, they had a, um, they had, uh, so the people that would get DUIs on there at night or DWIs at night, the police always would just drop them off at the Waffle house. They wouldn't arrest them. They just take them down there and drop them off. Yeah. It's really cool. I'm just like, Hey, say, stay here and sober up. So we're, when you as a kid, you're just running around, you could just pop in there and just hang, you'd be hanging out with the drunks and eating with all these cool drunks and shit. I think that's a lot of Waffle houses late at night. Yeah. Ours was too. It's kind of like a little mini rehab. I'm gonna be smoking a cig outside. I'm one of the cooks, you know, I'm being baby. Yeah. Or two, the best is the white guy that can't even blink his eyes. So he's so geeked up and he's just fucking making eggs. Boy, so many, so many things. Oh, he'll just rip an omelet out of a chicken's ass. That dude's ready. They're all yelling at him. Yes. The best of the fights in there when they start fighting. It's so closed environment in there. When they do the fights, I don't like being in the cave. They do the fights. So you've seen them. Yeah. It's like, I don't like being in the cage. I want to be outside of the cage. If they lock the door. You should on this side of the bar and they are on that side. Oh, that's yeah. Oh, you mean the employees fighting? Yeah. I don't like just random ones. I like to go to Waffle House and watch fights. Well, dude, the one in a, in Baton Rouge used to do a lookup Valentine's Day, Waffle House, Baton Rouge, they did a special thing. Did they do it at other ones you know about? Yeah. I think the decorations. Yeah, they would decorate it and you could make a reservation. Yes, where they put like a white tablecloth. Yes. That it's romantic. I would really like that. Waffle House for Valentine's Day 2026 romantic and affordable. Let me read up on that a touch. Mm hmm. Because I know my sister's fiance took her to this. Uh, let's be honest on every Valentine's Day needs candles, tuxedos and stress. Many couples now choose Waffle House for Valentine's Day because it feels real, relaxed and easy on the wallet. If you've been wondering whether it's actually worth trying, you're not alone. Let's walk through what experience is like and how to make it special. I like that. Heart shaped hash browns. You kidding me? You know they have that? Staking eggs with extra sides to share. I think I've been to Waffle House on New Year's Day for the past like five years. Oh, God, even six. Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. They used to have like a badge or like a recurring partner system. Chocolate pie slices and strawberry milkshakes served as a simple date night drink. A steak from a Waffle House. Hell yeah. Just doing it up. Dude, I met a woman off the internet once and she was from another country. She'd never been to a Waffle House and I took her to one and she loved it. That's one of my red flags. If guys like, let's go to Waffle House early in the morning. He's like, no. He says no. Let's go to Cracker Barrel. I feel like Waffle House over Cracker Barrel. I don't know. Yeah, no, it depends on the if I want pancakes. I don't know. I don't know. A lot of these pancakes these days are too hot. They're too fluffy and fat for me. I like that bitch like it's somebody already tried to eat it and it said, hell no. I like that thing. It's tough. I like that look like just a pancake. I like that. Yeah, flat burnt. I don't like that big fluffy. It looks like part of a piece of like an actual part of a layer of a flapjack. Yeah, it could be. What is a flapjack? Bring it up because you have people wandering around. People are eating hot. What is the difference between pancake and flat? People are eating all of them. I don't know. A British flapjack is a simple chewy and only baked bar made by melting butter. No, I'll burn you down golf clubs if you pull that shit up again. It's not that bar thing. No, it's not. It is a I like that group. Now some people came out with something. Here we go. A flapjack is a baked oat bar. This isn't it, man. Yeah, I think it is the oat bar. Well, then I've been getting something else. I call it a flapjack. I like that thing. It's real. It just kind of a little more flimsy. Kind of looks like it'll fucking slap your ass if you walking by. You don't talking about. Anyway, make the sound. Yeah. Finally, your brother made a sound. So he's having a good time. And I'll tell you something. I don't love a ton of syrup. I like a fair amount, but I don't like too much. I love it. You do. Do you like condiments and stuff like that? Are you a condiment person? Sauce. Yeah. Anything. I love it. You ever had that Zit Zaki sauce? Bring it up. Yeah. You've had it? That great. The Zack sauce? No, Zit Zaki. Bring it up. No, no. Zad Zaki. I've never heard of that. Zad Zit. Tizaki? Don't even fucking tell me that's how you all spell. Bro, that's. That's. That's. What did you just say? Zachariah sauce? I said Levithe is 413. That's what I said. I said Copernicus 12. Yeah, I've had that sauce before. Yeah, people say Zit. Is that Zit Zack? Zat Ziki. I want that Zat Ziki, baby. Yeah. People love that Zat Ziki. Now, what I will say is this. I do like it. How do you prefer it? Zat Ziki? Yeah. Just straight up in the little. With that little bread thing or. Oh, I'll take it with a pee to use these. I'll have it, but I'll have a look. I mean, I would never take him wanting to drink in one or whatever. Like my sister used to steal all those little coffee creamers from the freaking place. My stepdad would take us and she would drink them in her bed at night. All those little. Dude, the little ones? The hazelnut was in. That cannot be good. That's sleepy little bit. I cannot be good for your gut. That's sleepy little bitch would fucking finish off six of those and wonder why she's having nightmares because you're drinking damn stolen milk. OK. I don't understand how those stay good out for so long. I don't ever understand. And why can condiments stay on the tables at restaurants for so long, but they can at the house? Yeah, I got a lot of questions. But no, they used to put them. They used to put the creamers on a thing of ice in some places that I think still ever. They still do. Yeah. But some of them, those hazelnut ones, those are bad for you. They'll just give it to you in a coffee mug. Just like pile them in a coffee mug and hand it to you. Oh, yeah, somebody was a stack of men like that. But my sister would have six or 11 of them bitches in there complaining she's got an upset stomach, bitch. Of course you do. She's probably going to have the upset stomach for the rest of her life. Do that. And she already had a damn liver transplant. You ain't getting nothing else. Mom got her that when we were kids. When would you get? I didn't get shit, dude. I remember I got roller skates ever way too big for me. What were you like? What did you do? Me, I was pretty good, I guess. I don't know. It's kind of a I like to do my own thing. I just like to hitchhike and just have angry thoughts. I think a lot of the kids. Yeah. What did you do to like play sports? Sure. Yeah, I played basketball. What did I like to do? I like to be on my bike when I was a kid. My dad was super old, so we were always like messing with him and shit. My dad was like my dad was 70 when I was born. So he was an old guy. Yeah, he was old. And my brother used to come in the room. I've told this before, my brother would come in the room and he'd be like, dad's dead. And I'm like, what? He'd be like, yeah, go in there. He's dead, not going there and he wouldn't be dead. Yeah. How many times did that happen? Oh, well, then this is this is how we started to flip after a while because he'd be like, dad's dead. And I'd be like, he freaking better be dead. Or you're dead or I'm a whip your ass. Yeah. So it got to the point where you like hope. Like if dad's alive, somebody's getting their ass beat. So which is a crazy concept. You have to go in there and check one more time. Yeah. Well, your dad is barely alive. So you should kill there kind of pissed off like this. There's three pictures. Let me look at the top. Look, top four actually are all me. Zoom in on all of those. God, that looks good. That one's me. No, I mean. Yup. No, it's not. Well, is it really? We had some tough years. Yeah. I mean, obviously bring that kid back up. Dude, dude, that is not you. We had some damn tough. What's going on with that little thing on the side? Oh, honey, that's a fade girl. That's a one into a 19. Have you ever seen that cut? That's crazy. It's like a bull cut with like a weird shaped bull. That's a Christian cut right there. Yeah. Who cut your hair growing up, Ella Langley? All kinds of people. I have a bad tendency to cut my own hair. Yup. Yeah. I like that best. I really was there's something about it. What why do you do that? And why have you enjoyed that? I don't know because it doesn't always go. Most of the time it goes bad. That's how I got bangs in the first place. I stopped. I was wearing a cowboy hat for a while. And then I took it off because it was windy one show and it was pissing me off. I decided, you know, I'm going to take it off. And I liked how my bangs like were kind of around my face. And like 20 minutes before I walked out on stage, I decided to cut my fringe a little bit and it was so bad. There was like one piece right here. And I was shooting the cover art for my first record that next week. And Kaylee was like, I hate you. Well, she was honest with you. I had to get, I just told her, full send it with the bangs. Yep. And now you're in. I don't think I can ever change it. Yeah, you love it that much, huh? It changed my life a little bit. Really? Yeah, I would say. I mean, I don't know. The bang thing is that it's. I think it's the music. Well, yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think. Well, maybe a little bit the music, but mainly the bangs. The bangs are nice. You know what's funny is there's a I think there's there's a like a. Which it called like a poster board in the air or whatever. I don't know what you're referencing right now. Looks crazy. Billboard. There's like a Billboard. Over on Hillsborough Pike, and I thought it was you on it. I think I know what board you're talking about. Dude, here's a funny thing. I'd go by it sometimes and I'd only just rattle off something or sing a couple of your lyrics to it. And then somebody told me somebody told me it's not you. It's not. But I know what you're talking about. And what do you mean you'd sing a couple of lyrics to it? I would just rattle off something. You know, I was like, oh, there's Ella. Seeing how she's doing. Oh, she's still high and mighty up on that Billboard up there. Yeah. And I think it's for an earring company. I say with her fancy earrings or whatever. Big earrings, too. I mean, this lady had damn bird cages hanging off her head over there. No, what? Me? It wasn't you, though. Wish it was. God. Yeah. Yeah, I'd have gotten to spend more time with you. So me, too. It would have been nice, I think. At school, sometimes we ask about Valentine's Day. Did you have a thing at school where you had Valentine's at school? Or was your school too small to even give a Valentine? Because other people's feelings could really get hurt in that sort of closed environment. No, we still had Valentine's Day. God. Yeah, we still did. It did. Every feelings did get hurt. Feelings did. If there's nine kids in my class and there's Valentine's Day, dude, I couldn't cut that. That was our, never forget this kid. He was in our class. His name was, same was Freddie. And he brought in this little bear and he gave it to me. And he was like, if you, for you to have this bear, you got to be my girlfriend. I was like, sorry, buddy, can't do it. I'm a horse girl. And then he gave, yeah. But then he went over to Shelly and gave her the bear. No, he didn't. And I was like, hey, Freddie, come back over here. I will be your girlfriend. Give me that bear back. So you saw that competition and Ella said, I ain't losing out. Yeah. And Freddie was willing to get a woman, an animal. Dude, I remember we had a guy by us. He was a taxidermist or whatever. And I just remember I remember he had all these hard stuffed animals. I didn't know. Hard ones. Yeah. I was like, that dude has the hardest stuffed animals ever. He gave me like a squirrel because my mother said I'd love it over there all the time. She'd find me over there. And he gave me like a squirrel. And I slept with that thing. My mom said for like four years, this big taxidermist squirrel. No, you didn't. With a hard tail. Yeah. What do you mean? A hard tail. He had it. Bring up a look at that bitch. Yeah. Look at the one. Yeah, that's a stripper. I've never seen one done like that before. Look at the one that's a stripper right there. That's the one that you had for sure. Oh, I think I mean, I don't know. I was young, but I was happy to have it. Yeah. Look at the one canoeing in its own tail. That's pretty great, actually. Do they have a name? Huh? Did you name this one? Yeah, Mr. Tucker. So he could have been trans. Who knows? OK, a couple of questions about your album and then your new. Would you say real quick, Ella, could you pull your mic to the right? Just a little bit. Will you come help her, Trevon? She doesn't need any help. Sorry. That's perfect. This is Ella. Why'd you say that? Just because I'm thinking if there's one lady that doesn't need any help, it's probably you, I think. Sometimes I need help. You do? Yeah. I know sometimes I do, too. I think that's one tough thing about like when you like kind of like when things start like I think if you're like a person that's kind of controlling or you know, you like to have a say in everything you do, do you feel like you're that kind of person? Like you were that's one thing that I love about Morgan is Morgan knows exactly what he's doing. He is dialed in to a T. I feel like on what is him and what represents him. Yeah, I'm very much that way. I mean, every bit of what I do. Have my hand in it. You know, I'm co-producing the record. I'm writing stuff for the music video, co-directing that. I'm, you know, making the set list for the show and kind of creating that set. I literally drew out our set in my journal and was like gave it to the set designer. He was like, that's what I want. And they literally made that for me. So it's all you. So when people come to see this next door, it's all you. It's you know, I mean, I have an incredible team. Right. But it's all comes from you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting. It's hard to find people that sometimes people get stingy with your art in a way. And it's funny that it's like like a pride thing. And I care so much about the people that I work with it being a collaborative experience, you know. And so everyone on my team, it really is that with whether it be my stylist or a makeup artist or Kaylee over here, who's my photographer and also a creative director of my management, you know, my band. It's kind of like I don't get to tell my band to get up there and play this dang thing, like for lick. I want us to get up there and have, you know, fun and play music. And obviously there's a way a show should go. But I don't know. I just think that sometimes people put these weird parameters around such a creative thing and something that like I think you look like you love me did for me was like everyone told me that song was not going to work. You know, you're all like, what? What do you my label tried to give me to cut it? Yes, after we had cut it, they were like, we really think you need to go back in and sing these verses. I was like, I'm not singing it. And they're like, you need to sing it. And I just fought them really hard on it. And they thought you need to go back in and sing Raleigh's verses. Is Raleigh the one sings on that? Yeah, but no, like the yeah, the talking part. And you know, I was all but twenty two, I think at the time. Yeah. Yeah. No, they wanted me to sing that go back in there. Like this is like going to be the worst performing song in the record. No. Yeah. And so I think with that one, I mean, it was just different. You knew it wasn't. I mean, I didn't know what it was going to do. But I believe that you believed in what it was, though. I believe that it was different. I believe that it was something that made me smile and I enjoyed singing it. And, you know, like I said, once I put my mind to something like if I go and it cut something, it's because I believe in it. And it feels like you get to know you some in that song a little bit, too. I mean, it's just there's something about when somebody's talking to you, you know, when they're talking as well. I think there's yeah. Tells a story in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Dang. Who's out there telling an L a line? We know. I don't know. But have there been parts you've like. Like like as things got busier, you're like learning how to be like kind of like a boss, a leader, not necessarily a boss, but like a leader. Yeah. And then those are roles that you have to step into. I think if you want to be like. Exactly how you want to be, you know, because otherwise there's like, especially in music and in Hollywood type of stuff, there's it'll it'll make something for you and serve it out there, you know. But if you want to be on top of it, it takes a lot. It does. I think that's one of the harder parts of this job and kind of what I've watched from watching other artists my whole life, obviously wanting to do this, paid attention in a way like. You really do have to get up and fight to do it the way you want to do it every day. Isn't that crazy? You do. It's exhausting and people all day in the more the more success, the more people care about what you're doing. You know what I mean? In the beginning in a label, you know, when I was first signed, it wasn't a competitive deal, you know, they I didn't really have that much going on. And it was more of like a banking on me type of a situation. Right. So now, you know. Everyone is a little paying a little closer attention to what's happening, obviously, you know, and everyone has an opinion and it's like that across the board. And that's just because it's working and everyone wants it to stay working. You know, you know yourself the best and your artistry and like, at the end of the day, I'm the one that's going to have to do that interview. I'm the one that's going to have to sing that song every night. I'm the one that's going to have to go take those pictures. I'm the one that's going to have to work with these people, you know, and I think it's just constantly reminding them of that and not compromising who you are as a human being, because, well, this is how it's usually done. I hate that phrase. I hate, well, this is what you would usually do. I was like, well, I don't give a rat's ass what you'd usually do. I do not want to do it like that. I really don't. And I'm going to stick my heels in the month. You don't even have any heels and I'm just going to put my feet in there. You do have heels. That's the bottom of your foot. This is. Oh, yeah, you're right. And I'm going to put them in the bag. Yeah, I've always, I don't want to do it how you want to do. That's been the pilot light of my entire existence. Oh, yeah. Do it like this. That's the worst thing you could tell me if you don't want me to do it. Dude, I don't want to do any. I never want to do that. Couldn't even my eyes wasn't even open. And I was like, I ain't doing shit like you want me to keep your eyes straight. How about that bitch? I'm going to remix right up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's hilarious. Yes. Oh, congratulations. You guys is your tour with Morgan starts April 18th in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Bryant Denny Stadium. I know. Home state. That's so crazy. It's cool. I think it's the first concert be in there since like what? 19 something. Bring it up. 1970 something. I think Alabama was the last thing. Oh, hey, bring it up. Oh, my God. Kaylee took that over there. Did she? God, take some of me, Kaylee. I need to live like that. I need to get a damn brooch. Brooch. Or sorry. Nice. I mean, a nice neck tie. I'm just joking. I'm trying to make your brother laugh. The only joy I'm having is when you guys laugh. I think that's the gig. Well, yeah, it's just nice when people laugh. I feel OK. Yeah. Alabama Stadium show right there at Bryant Denny. When was the last one? That's what we're asking. Honestly, this guy's just looking at pictures of men online. That's the dang football team. We just want to know what was the last one. Just ask somebody fucking ask. Who's that roll tide guy? Oh, that's roll tide Willie. Yeah. He's actually from here. Dude, he's he was in the military with my buddy's dad. He used to be pretty not normal, but better. That's where he's from. What? Yeah. God bless him. The last concert held at Bryant Denny Stadium was a performance by the band Alabama in 1992, which followed a series of Bama Blast concerts in the early 1980s. The 2008 concert with Alan Jackson was scheduled, but canceled. Dang. So that's been 30. Thirty three years. Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that one. That's crazy. And we're direct support this year. We've really worked our way up on this tour. First tour, we're first of four. We did with him last year. We were second of four. This year, we're direct. Congratulations. Just climb your way. You know what I mean? He says, I mean, I've spoken with him about you or just. And he's like, she's got she has it. She has got it. He's been really cool. He's a unique dude, man. Well, you know, I mean, him and Erne and Hardy and that whole crew has just been super kind to me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's that whole group so much fun. I remember right whenever I moved in town, we had a podcast. I was living with Wedswood Houston. I just was renting a house and putting a podcast studio. And the guy was always stopping my I was like, you have a podcast studio in here. I was like, no. And just like, he's like, for some reason, this guy hated podcast or whatever. And and one day we got to have more Morgan and came. And then we had like kind of just snuck out Hardy and Ernie and we had a blast over there. But that was fun. That was like an early episode that we had here in town. Yeah, those shows are going to be cool. It's going to be so great. And there was something else I was going to ask you about. Oh, and then you're doing stagecoach too. Yeah, me and my buddy are DJ in there. Really? Yeah, I did. You DJ'd before? No. But it looks so dang easy. Yeah, I'm just joking, Diplo, but it looks pretty damn easy. So yeah, that's it. Yeah, I don't know. I've never tried that. But yeah, me and my friend, Caleb Presley are going to play a Diplo's honky tonk. So Stuart met him. You did? Oh, they're great, aren't they? Yeah. Funny balls. He is. He loves a nice cheese, too. If you know of a restaurant in the area, he'll tell you about cheeses in any area. He almost has like a like a. Yeah, you will. You know that? Like he already knew that. Yeah, he loves them cheeses. You know, I met him over a Havarti. That's it. Listen in a hardy. And I'm sorry, I'm just dropping a horrible cheese country music lyrics here. I thought it was great. I thought it wasn't too bad. So easy it is. But no, that's so that's going to be cool. I'm excited. I'm excited to get to see you play out there. Let's talk about and and thanks so much for spending time with us today. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. We're happy to have you. We had this girl and yesterday. Have you ever seen that girl? She's like on TikTok. She has like she has stenosis. She has a like a syndrome. Cis stenosis. Cis stenosis. She keeps changing the name of it. But yeah, this is her. Have you seen her? She talks about the spice, a little bit of spice. A little hint of spice. You know, like a little hint of soy sauce, a little hint of the tomato, a little hint of the spice. Tomato and ramen. Actually, I was like a little hint of tomato. Oh, yeah? What is a hint? I don't know. It just sounds like a little word. That's me all the time. What if it was even that? I don't know. It sounds like a real word. First, it figured out later. Yeah. You have your new album, Dandelion or Dandelion. That's people. Some people were saying it. Yeah. Congratulations. Did you feel like you had to hurry up and get this out or? Because I think sometimes coming off of like, you know, like you said earlier, like your career starts getting bigger and things start to feel like you don't want to lose the momentum, right? You worked so hard to build a flame. Did it feel like any pressures? Like what were some pressures that were involved with this or was it just completely smooth? And is that a ridiculous question? Nothing is ever completely smooth. I don't think for real. Some I don't know. Well, I don't know. Maybe some things. Yeah. Some things. Maybe. Yeah. But this record, I mean, I worked on it for like a year and a half. So it still took a while. But I say I keep saying the big word for this record is synchronicity. It did just feel like a lot of things while it was, you know, I'm co-producing for the first time while I'm full time touring two different tours while, you know, just trying to balance everything at the same time, get the vocals done, you know. And it taught me a lot. And that's what was so cool about having Miranda to be a part of it, you know. Because she's just so honest, you know, you've met her and hung out with her. She's just so real. Yeah, she's great. She does barrel racing too. Yeah, she does. But she just, you know, she was just honest about, you know, days where I was like, she's like, you're burnt and take a step back. Yeah. But also like, you know, some things I wanted to go in there. I'm like, can I say that? She's like, hell yeah, you can say that. You can say whatever the hell you want to, you know. So like that confidence of someone that has done it and like you look up at their career so much, like, you know what, hell, you know what, yes. Actually, I do want the samples to be louder right there. I do. And no, it was it was really cool. This whole this whole record, I'm so excited about it. I've never been more excited about music in my life. Really? Hmm. I think I've clicked in my artistry. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I think I really have. That's a pretty bad ass thing to say. Yeah. I think, especially if you're somebody you mentioned earlier, that you're such a like a judge of yourself, you know, that you get off stage and you're like, how that, you know, yeah, that was fine. But that, but there's, it wasn't as exact as I could possibly have been. You know. Yeah. I just, man, this is as exact as I want it to be. I just, we had such a vision for it. Like I had a hundred and something song reference playlist of what I wanted sonically for this record. And. Now, what do you mean? What does that mean? I literally just went on Spotify and made a playlist of like all of these songs of the era I was listening for like guitar tones and drum sounds and BGV background vocal parts and, um, you know, start with that idea before anything. Well, actually it started with the title dandelion. Um, we had written that song, um, it's the oldest song on the record. It was almost, um, gonna be put on the last record, but I pulled it at the last minute because I just kind of felt like sonically, it's where I wanted to go and I knew it was like the context was like, feels like I'm growing and I'm not just so hungover and doing debauchery every day of my life. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe just on Tuesdays, you know, um, but, um, yeah. So I found out that, um, dandelion T is a detox for your liver. Oh yeah. And when I heard that it was like a light bulb went off over my head. It's like, oh my God, a record called dandelion coming after a record called hungover. It's like you're just growing up. You're, you know, dandelions are resilient. They're kind of considered a weed, but I mean, what are kids going and picking out for their moms and bringing them, you know, it's a bunch of dandelions. And they're actually spread on the wind, which is cool if it weren't for the wind. Yeah. So that's a little random little nugget in there. But I mean, so much of that stuff is in this record and God, I love it. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I play it at that when I'm in my room or whatever. You feel that you feel like a dandelion? I will play it. I'm not saying all that, but I will say I will play it sometime. You never have felt like a dandelion? I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, I could have to read through my diary, but I don't think so. Probably not. But that's okay. That's okay. But I just, yeah, I mean, I love you more of a rose. Okay. I'm more of a damn, what's the plant that grows on your house? Even if you don't want it to. Yeah, I'm more of a cut. You are more of a cut. Damn cut too. Cause they can't get rid of me. They're like this bastard. I thought we put him out years ago and it's like, bitch, I'm still. You were growing under the porch. So hold up. She'll come out and I'll tap on your window. I'm only planting. Late at night. Yeah. I'm like a damn fungus. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you, sir. I liked it. I liked Vine, but we'll go fungus. We'll go fungus. No, but no, I love listening to your music. It's great. I mean, I'll be standing. I'll be standing. And who am I to judge? It's great, dude. One time I said to Morgan, I was like, man, that song is good. And he looked at me and he goes, that song is great. And I was like, he's right. And he was right. You just kind of sat there in silence for a minute. I was just trying to think be cool a little bit. He's like, no, and he was right. Got kind of sweaty right when you said that. Yeah, I think we're actually working out somewhere. So it was like, you know, extra. It was just like, I don't know what was going on. But I remember him saying that song's great. I was like, I'm respected. He's confidence about it. But no, I love listening to your music. It's great. But quit saying that, dude. I was great and weirdo. I like listening to your music. There's a smile again. But here's what happens is I'll be talking to dudes. And I'll be walking up and singing or I'm at the dang market and some guys by walking by singing it. You know, singing it. Yeah. You're just singing all of it. Be heard. Yeah, just see. Oh, yeah, my friend, Alan, the other day, he said, I can't get this out of my head. And I was like, well, dang, don't look at some porno or something. You know, go get a dang. One of them nudie mags or something. Bucko, you know, that usually. Yeah. But anyway, I was just saying because that was that song is more of like a women focused song. That's all I wrote it with three guys. Did you? Yeah. Hardy's one. Did he? Mm hmm. He does have long hair. He does. And he has nice hair, too. Um, well, tell me, like, so when it comes down to making the final songs, like, or did you want to play one? You want to pick one out to play? Yeah, play a song. Really? Yeah. Yeah, of course. I'll give you all the titles. All right. And then you can just pick one of them. Just pick one that's not out yet. All right. If you. How would you know? How would you know? I think I will know. Okay. Um, where was that sent to me at? Thank you. Okay. All right. Let me see that. Just put my number in here. Sorry, I'm just watching this. Sorry. Sorry. I'm just taking it over by the devil. The dang devil is swiping around. It's like you hand it to your dad and he just keeps wiping it. You know, and you're like, bro, if you give somebody a phone and they swipe one picture, is there any scarier? You have no idea what that could be. You just swallow it's just so hard to meet him. It could be casserole. It could be a damn somebody getting a tummy tuck. What is this? Something you meant to take to show your doctor later? Oh, you're like, that's for my doctor. You're like, you want, you're going to show that young lady to your doctor? I like, I don't know. Me and my doctor. I need to go to a meeting. Um, what about last call for us? Yeah, you can play that one. Is it a phone one? It's not as much fun, but it isn't. If you want fun, not that one. Oh, that's true. But it's, I mean, I like this song. Oh my God. I'll just listen and enjoy it. Thank you. But it's almost three and I think we both know. Then it's last call for us. It's a sad, sad tune. That after these drinks, you'll let go of me and I'll let go of you. Here we go. We are going to be together. We are going to be together. We are going to be together. We are going to be together. We are going to be together. We are going to go. Here we go, boy. He's my ultimate hype man. I can edit that in right there. You can fade it out some. I think we could play one more. We can? And then we can just pick which one. Let's do that. Play a fun one. That's good because that might be sad because what if somebody just put their animal down or something? Then that's a good one. I think we could play one more. We can? And then we can just pick which one. Let's do that. Play a fun one. Then that's the song they want to cry to. That's just a good point. So we put it out there. Yeah and thank you for that. And I'll say this, I went and saw Dermott Kennedy one time, have you ever heard of him? Uh uh. Dude and I didn't know people cry together in a big group at the Rhymen right? So there was a woman crying on my back because she lost a pet. You just let her. I couldn't do, what am I gonna do? You just let her. She said just push my legs back if they get up against you know I was like... All right. But it was special. That's a crazy rhyming show. It was. All right. And I saw you at the rhyming. Remember you asked me to sing that part and I got scared. Why did you get so scared? Because I couldn't remember it all. There were words, there's a teleprompter out there with the words on it. I didn't know that. Nobody told me that. I did, yes I did. I would have known. A teleprompter, I know about that. I know about words moving at slow speed in front of me. Yeah, there was one with the words on it and everything. I didn't know any of that. They were like, everyone was like, he was upset. And I was like, well, why? Yeah. I think I was upset. I think I was bummed because I wanted to, because I liked the music and so I wanted to be helpful and everybody else was helping out. And then I think I just got too nervous. I didn't want to mess it up. You would not. You could have come out there and said anything and it would have been good. I don't know. That's the fun part about that song. I mess up the words all the time. Yeah. All the time. You do seem pretty much like you just kinda, you're willing to just roll with it no matter what. Hey, this is a special show for y'all. I've never done it like this before. I can't help it. I'm human. I think in a world of you don't know what's real or not, like I just think going up there and not being afraid to be humble a little bit in that way. I don't want to mess up the words. Like when I did what I want with Morgan, I mess up the words almost every single time. I've never been so nervous to go out and do something. Really? I feel like I could throw up before I walked out there every time. I was like, I just cannot, I could not remember those words. Like here's me, like there ain't no hot feelings if you only wanna act like lovers do for days. Like lovers do. And I couldn't stop. Literally just. You really? I just couldn't, I don't know. And I would have it, but then, all right, POV. You go through this tunnel, you know what I mean? And you're playing in the stadium. It's the most people you've ever been in front of. You're walking out with Morgan Wall and everything gets dark and there's smoke everywhere. And you gotta walk out and I'm in pointy heels. And there's greats out there. So you gotta make sure you're not falling down in those. You get up and then, here you go. You get one shot at it. There's no practice too. You get like one rehearsal, you go out there and it's like, okay, but doing it in front of 80,000 people is different than at two, then two PM in the middle of the day. But what was awesome is the last time we did it is he came out and messed up the words. And I, when he did that, I just started to laugh so hard because he was giving me so much shit about messing up the words. He was just like, you can't come out here and mess this up again. I was like, I might, I'm really scared that I might. And so the last night he did, and it was like, he just immediately could never say another thing to me about mess of the words, you know? I love that. So that was nice of him. If he did that on purpose. He's like, that's what he says now. He's like, that's why I did it and make you feel better about all the time. Like, yeah. And he might have, who knows? No, because when he looked back at me, it was pure like frustration that he like, he had to no longer talk shit about me messing up the words. But it was even? Yeah. That's hilarious. Yes. Thank you. Y'all do a great job on that one. Yeah, let's play one more then. Let's play something, Ella, that, well, let me think about one more. Let me try and pick one more. Okay, can I just say yes or no if I think it's a good one? Yeah, and we'll take that part out. Okay. Why? Because if people, if you say no, it's not a good one that might. They are, but maybe not for this setting. Yes, for this setting, that's what I'm thinking about. Bottom of your boots. Yes. Bang, broke, that was my freaking one that I wanted. That my dad gave me that title, actually. Yeah. I was like having a freak out one night. It's actually kind of a sweet story. I was like. Tell me about it then. Well, I mean, he was just giving me one of his like, baby, you know, you're fine. He's like, but you know, I love you from the bottom of my boots to the top of my hat. Oh. That's a great title. Anyways. As much of a dad as there is. Yeah. You know? Pep talks. That's bottom to top. Yep. Bottom of your boots. Yeah. Yeah. Heck yeah. Your boots find a bed, my head on the floor. I'm thinking it's love. And I'm thinking it's sober. Boy, if your heart revolved and door. Yeah, that's all right. But I'm looking for more. If you're gonna love me, lay it on the table. Tell me how you really feel. Give it a label. If you're gonna hold me, don't just hold me all night. Better hold me like you want to hold me for. Yeah, they got them shoulder ties. If you're gonna love me, better love me to the moon and back. From the bottom of your boots to the top of your hat. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh, man. Blame it on you. Not on some bourbon. The things that you're saying. Behind closed curtains. Go on and leave me for it really hurts. If you don't mean it with those three words. If you're gonna love me. Getting closer to a love song. Tell me how you really feel. Give it a label. If you're gonna hold me, don't just hold me all night. Better hold me like you want to hold me for the rest of your life. If you're gonna love me, better love me to the moon and back. From the bottom of your boots to the top of your hat. Love me. I love that. Oh. A little Langley. That's good. That's good. That's good in there. That's good. Enough slices. It's enough slices. Dude, your brother is a great dancer. That's a beautiful song. Dude, but he is dancing though. I know. Pretty good, buddy. Heck yeah. I thought he was my hype man. Yeah, no, I would get him out there and have him do it. Do you ever do that? No, but maybe we should. Thank you. He's been streaming. Has he? Yeah. He's a streamer? Yep. No. I have been streaming Mustache Stew. Mustache Stew? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I like that man. There's not a lot of Southern streamers really I don't feel like. I know. I feel like I'm getting a lot of exposure, dude. It's been awesome. Like Mustache Stew, you know. I got the brand. I got the stew. So. Type. And is that a real hat from your sister's album? It is. Oh yeah, I gotta get that. We brought you some. Yeah. Unreleased. Are they? Did you really bring one? Let's go. I can't even wait to freaking put it on whenever I get home. That's a great song. Thanks for letting us play it. And I think, and what a great story to go with it. That it came from your dad saying that to you. Yeah. That's awesome. That's a nice reminder. Should we do one more? I mean, I will definitely be here for that. He picked out a good one. I think we should do Broken. I'll do it. All right. Yes, first chorus. And is it about, well, never mind. I'll just be quiet. You're figuring this town out one day at a time, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You and me in the dark Just keep holding me tight While I'm falling apart Baby, just hold on tight Just love the truth Can't you hear just live with the crowd, you know? Oh, yeah, with their lighters. Lighters. People holding up pictures of people they lost. Yes. Look at them. Literally. I want to show you with that light. That's pretty clutch. You and me in the dark Just keep holding me tight While I'm falling apart Baby, just hold on tight Just love the truth Let me be broken Yeah, a lot of singing courses on this record. I've thought a lot about, like, wanting people to sing along to these songs. You did. Yeah. You thought about that. A lot, you know, I mean, I don't know. I just... No, it's interesting. Sometimes there's so many words in songs, but I can remember the melody. So a lot with these songs, I wanted them to be kind of easy to remember. Big singing courses, like, you know, you hear that chorus once and you're already knew how to sing it. Yeah. Yeah, because you want to feel a part of it. I mean, I think as a listener, you want to feel a part of it as quick as you can sometimes, especially if you're a fan of somebody you're like, you know, if it fits you, some of them, you know, certain songs fit certain people better than others. Well, maybe you haven't heard all the songs and you just know, like, one or two, you know, you're going to have to start throughout the show because... Because I hate just staying in there. I hate just staying in there. I have too much ADHD to just stay in there. God, and you have to keep getting snacks because you don't know the song and you're like, well, shit, I'll get another snack or whatever. Get another pretzel, I guess. Maybe make it cinnamon this time. Yeah, maybe I'll change things up or something and get a damn Diet Gatorade or whatever, which they never came out with, which I have written them about. Um, I had this... I had this... Using Texas is probably the biggest song everywhere. Apparently they had, like, somebody called a... They found an alien or something. He was singing it. I think, like, there was, like, a family of aliens. They saw somewhere they saw them singing it. Like, it's number one in everything. It's like, you know, it's like the biggest song that's ever happened. Some guy, you see that guy on a coma who kind of wakes up and mumbles one of the lyrics and then goes back into a coma. Oh, I knew him. Yeah. He's like... Just... You're getting them right back. Right off. Um... No, I haven't seen that one. There's so many memes to it, though. Have you seen a lot of those? Yeah. Let's... Can we bring some up? Yeah. What do you think about all these? I think that it's... It's whatever people want to do with the song. You know, once I put it out there, it's like... Who knows what can happen? And like I said, this is what's going to keep songs alive. Mmm. You know, it's... Yeah, this is... It does sound real close to that. Drinking Jack-Off by myself? Yep. Yeah. I think it does. It does. And that, like, I'll get songs stuck in my head and parts to it and I just have that right there stuck in my head, like on repeat over and over again now. Just drinking Jack-Off by myself? It's like drinking Jack-Off now. And have you ever accidentally sung it like that on stage or no? I've feared that a lot. I really do. Because I have the thing about me where it's like... I have one specific thing I should not say and then I'm accidentally going to probably say it. Like, I don't know why. God, yeah. Yeah, so... Because damn Satan's tickling you from the inside. That's all. Here's one right here. That'll do it. Oh, yeah. It's juice. There's juice in Texas. Yeah, I know. I see a new one all the time. Drinking Jack-Off by myself? There's juice in Texas, I can tell. And it's just a... See me... A mixed guy at least, possibly a black man. Fishing in a suburban man-made pond. There's no way that they're fishing that pond right now. You don't think? No way. I don't know. I bet there's some damn missing women in that bitch. Pull up one more. This... My dad loves that one. It says... Some people can't see it because they're listening. Well, let me spin it down. I can't help but cry because I farted. It says on the screen. So that's what they're saying, she said. That's hilarious. Yeah, the only ones I've seen is the juice in Texas and then drinking Jack-Off by myself. Drinking Jack-Off by myself? It does. It's like that. You can be McGrane Bean. You remember that thing? You can be... You can be McQueen B? Lord, remember that song? Oh. And everyone was like, You can be McGrane Bean. You remember that thing? You can be... And everyone was like, You can be McGrane Bean. Yes. I used to do that in my first year. You can be McQueen. Life's a pain to buzz. You don't want them with us. You say it. You can be McGrane Bean. Oh, yeah. You can be McGrane Bean. But everyone's always said Green Bean. Oh, you can be McGrane Bean. Okay, I gotta stop, people. Some real man shows up and chokes me out. Can we... Okay, moving on. Ella Langley. And then your own tour. You have your own tour. Yep. Is kicking off after or it's in between the one with direct support for Morgan? Kind of back and forth some. We start in May. May what? May 7th. Where do we start? Toledo, Ohio. Yep, Toledo, Ohio. I think that's where Vietnam was. Was that where Vietnam was? Or no, I know it wasn't. Sorry. I know Vietnam was on a Toledo. I think Vietnam started May 7th. Oh, that's the day. It doesn't matter, either way. At this point. Let's pretend that's not part of this. Well, you got double Marlowe's on it. You got Dylan Marlowe and Cameron Marlowe. Not related. Two totally different singers, both great. Caitlin Butts on there. I'm trying to think if I've heard her before. Can you bring up Caitlin Butts? You ain't gotta die to be dead in me. She has an incredible cover of... I went down to Tulsa. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's incredible. Her voice is incredible. She's so fun. Her songs are fun. She's also really funny. She's funny? Yes. That's good. I love funny girls. Being on tour, there's nothing better than funny girls. A lot of funny girls I noticed, and this is something I noticed, is that a lot of them are from Philadelphia area. Yeah. What made you notice that? I just noticed it. And I believed it. Well, that's all you gotta do. When I noticed it, I believed it. Then that's what it is. Yeah, sometimes you meet some funny girls from outside or from Philadelphia area. But anyway, also, Caitlin Butts. And I look forward to getting to meet her sometime. She's really good. And then Gabriella Rose is first of three for almost the whole thing. She's incredible. Diplo was telling me something about her. I think. Yeah, she's so good. I believe in her a lot. She's young, and she's still finding herself in her artistry and doing the whole damn thing. But she's so good. Yeah, the way she writes, it's like, you can tell she means what she says. And then Lacey K. Booth is another one. So my God, they are just some good women out there. Yep. We are glad they're doing it. Well, yeah, we are glad. We are glad. Sorry, I don't know is this the weirdest interview? Is it OK guys? It is awesome. Those guys are perverts, both of them. Ella thanks so much for hanging out with us. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Congratulations Congratulations on all of your success on everything that's going on. And just learning to like figure it out because I think that's one thing that everybody's trying to do. I think sometimes people think that like people like it are in some sort of limelight or going through some sort of like popularity or exposure or fame that they. There's like a conductor behind stage that's like telling you what to do every second of the day. Yeah. No. Sadly that ours is in there. Can you imagine what our conductors look like too in there? It's a mess. If they pulled out whoever lives in my head from behind a building from behind a building and they're like, look where you look. We found back there. I would like fucking hang from the nearest road. Did you ever watch the inside out movie and he wouldn't have pants on? I bet. Probably. You're like, wait, you're telling me that guy in my head has never had pants on. Never had pants. Like the officer's like, he doesn't own pants. You're like, well, what? We can't afford pants. Yeah. God. Have I ever watched the inside out movie? Yeah. It was like the characters that live in your brain, the cartoons. You would love this movie. I actually think that you would. It's incredible. I never seen that. You should. You should see it with your eyes. It's very good. OK. It's like about all these characters, like they all are like it's like sad, mad. There's like one main girl and then there's like a I don't know what the other one is. Joy. Yeah, there's some anger discussed. I see. I see all of them. They're all labeled up there. Oh, wow. Anyway, it does always make me think about that. I appreciate that. Welcome to something for later on the plane whenever you're on the plane. Yeah. After I get done listening to Dan, Alain, then. Yeah. I'll put on inside out. I'm sure the people sitting next to you like this. This guy's going through. No, it's on came up on you watching that. They'd be like, yeah, for sure. Probably. It's kind of crazy that that's where we're at now. If an adult came up on another adult watching a fucking cartoon, they're like, yeah, man, you do everything's fine. It must be having a hard day. It's a crazy world. So you're going to be on tour for a bit, then you won't get to go back home for a while or do you have a set date we're going to go back home? Will you be home for Easter? We be home for? Yeah, I'm going to go home for Easter. And then we go back to the church that you grew up in. No, no. Just I kind of we will we move to a different place. My parents just sold that house, actually. They close on like a week or two ago. Oh, nice. Yeah. But yeah, I just bought a house back there on the lake and don't want to say where because people already come up on their boats and stuff, playing my music. It's kind of funny. People are perverts. People are seafaring. But it's not just a small town, you know what I mean? They're like, yeah, cool. There's like the closest. It's like a piggly wiggly and a DG there. You know, oh, yeah. I mean, people used to pull up our apartments and steal all the ditch onions that were out there. I never want you haven't. You have never they got ditch onions out there. And congratulations on choosing Texas as a number one. It's a number one for. Is it so many? I don't even it's too many slices, too many things for everything. Crazy. It's a number one for everything. I think it just came out on the moon. It's the first number one on the moon, I think. Yeah, I don't really know. That would be nuts. No, yeah, I don't know. It's just so weird to to to to believe that that's like a song. That's my song. Yeah, what? I know it's hard to feel attached to things that you do sometimes. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think that makes good sense. Well, maybe that's one of the things that makes you you. But whatever the things are that make you you, they're enjoyable to witness. So thank you for spending time with us. Thank you for your music. There's so many people I know that love it and then it brings joy to their life. And I'm glad I got to meet must dash stew. And yeah, when I need some photos and my conditioner set, I'm going to call you and then get something swell going on. Something swell. Yes, something swell. Ella Langley, thank you. Thank you for having me on here. Yes, ma'am. I can feel it in my bones. But it's going to take.