The Tony Kornheiser Show

“Was it freeing?”

64 min
Dec 23, 20254 months ago
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Summary

Tony Kornheiser discusses NFL playoff picks with Chuck Todd and college football playoffs with Chuck Culpepper, covering the Kansas City Chiefs' relocation to Kansas, the 12-team college playoff format, and weekend sports outcomes including Alabama's comeback win at Oklahoma and Miami's defensive struggle against Texas A&M.

Insights
  • Road teams in the college football playoff showed improved performance this year (2-2) compared to last year (0-4), suggesting home-field advantage may be less decisive than previously thought
  • The idle time between regular season and playoff games may disadvantage early-round teams, as evidenced by low-scoring defensive battles in Miami-Texas A&M and the success of higher seeds
  • Coaching changes can dramatically transform franchise performance, as demonstrated by Liam Cohn's impact on Jacksonville's turnaround from struggling to winning 7 of last 9 games
  • The NFL's competitive balance is at a historic high with no dominant team, creating unpredictability where 12 teams at various points were considered 'the team' to beat
  • Group of Five inclusion in college playoffs creates philosophical debate between competitive merit-based selection versus tournament inclusivity and variety
Trends
NFL stadium relocations across state lines creating regional identity concerns (Chiefs moving from Missouri to Kansas)College football coaching carousel with high-profile candidates like Kalen DeBoer attracting interest from major programsIncreased competitiveness in NFL with multiple 10+ win teams making playoffs, reducing traditional power concentrationCollege football playoff format creating scheduling challenges with extended idle periods between gamesDefensive-focused playoff games suggesting film study and preparation may outweigh regular season offensive performanceQuarterback uncertainty affecting playoff contenders (Green Bay, Baltimore, Washington)Mid-season coaching impacts transforming team trajectories in both college and professional footballSports media scheduling conflicts with bowl games displacing traditional programming slots
Topics
NFL Playoff Predictions and Betting LinesKansas City Chiefs Stadium RelocationCollege Football 12-Team Playoff FormatAlabama Football Comeback VictoryMiami vs Texas A&M Defensive Game AnalysisJacksonville Jaguars Turnaround SeasonMichigan Football Coaching SearchNotre Dame Playoff EligibilityNFL Home-Field Advantage in PlayoffsGroup of Five Teams in College PlayoffsQuarterback Performance and InjuriesNFL Conference Seeding and Playoff PositioningCollege Football Coaching ChangesSports Broadcasting Schedule ConflictsRegional Sports Team Identity
Companies
ESPN
Broadcast network that had programming displaced by bowl games running long, affecting show scheduling
Netflix
Streaming service broadcasting NFL games on Christmas Day, criticized for weak matchup quality
FanDuel Sportsbook
Sports betting platform sponsoring the weekly NFL picks segment with Chuck Todd
Bethesda Bagels
Local bagel restaurant chain in DC area promoted as sponsor with location information
Apple
Technology company criticized for email delivery issues and device control concerns
AT&T
Mobile carrier mentioned in context of phone service issues
People
Chuck Todd
Guest providing NFL playoff game predictions and picks with 58-57-1 overall record
Chuck Culpepper
Guest discussing college football playoffs, Alabama's comeback, and Group of Five inclusion debate
Mike Wilbon
Co-host providing analysis on NFL teams, Bears-Packers game, and stadium relocation issues
Kalen DeBoer
Alabama coach whose potential Michigan departure is discussed despite recent playoff success
Patrick Mahomes
Chiefs QB mentioned in context of team's relocation from Arrowhead Stadium
Brock Purdy
49ers QB who threw five touchdowns in Monday night victory over Indianapolis
Philip Rivers
44-year-old grandfather playing for Colts, praised for recent performance despite age
Trevor Lawrence
Jaguars QB showing improvement with 14 TDs and no INTs in last four games under new coaching
Liam Cohn
Jaguars coach credited with transforming franchise from struggling to winning 7 of 9 games
DK Metcalf
Seahawks receiver suspended two games for altercation with fan in stands
Sandy Koufax
Legendary Dodgers pitcher mentioned as greatest living baseball player candidate
Nick Saban
Former Alabama coach who left Miami Dolphins for Alabama in 2007, parallel to DeBoer discussion
Quotes
"I don't understand why you'd leave Arrowhead. It's not that you can't understand where you can leave... But to go across the state line to leave Missouri to go to Kansas, is there a Kansas City, Kansas of prominence?"
Tony KornheiserMid-episode
"It's the best season the NFL has had in years. Because Kansas City is not dominating."
Chuck ToddNFL discussion segment
"I think if anybody gets to the Super Bowl that isn't Josh Allen in the AFC, I think it's these guys. I think it's the Texans."
Chuck ToddPlayoff picks segment
"What have they found out about each other? I love watching it to see sort of where it will go."
Chuck CulpepperCollege football discussion
"I cannot see that reality at all, especially after the win at Oklahoma. I'd be stunned if that happened."
Chuck CulpepperDeBoer to Michigan discussion
Full Transcript
Hey, it's Tony. If you're hearing this, it means that Nigel has flushed the mouse and forgot to have me record something new. So who knows who our guests will be today? Maybe Mick Jagger, Sandy Kofax, Dally Lamma, long hitter to Lamma. Probably not, but I guess you'll have to tune in to find out. But first, let's keep the sales weasels happy. Previously on the Tony Kornhizer show. The wind was, I would say, brisk, not overwhelming, but brisk. And the temperature was, you know, reasonable, like 41, 42, 43, something like that. But by the time we got to the fourth hole we played, I was freezing to death. The wind had really picked up. Yeah. And the temperature, though, it got to 45. Every time you looked at a you looked at your phone, it said feels like 28. I was really cold. And by 14, I was I finished. I was not only terrible, I just wanted to stop. This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony Kornhizer show. So, as I said, we're going to do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday this week. What had sometimes I get mail from people who I haven't seen in a long time, haven't heard from in a long time. The mail comes in and Nigel looks at it and he when we sit down to do the show in the morning, he just says sort of quizzically, do you know? And then he gives me a name and more than half the time I know the name. Yeah. And I go, oh, so I got one. The mail bag, right? Yeah. I got one. For example, my personal email. No, I get no email. This is now the fourth day I get no email. There are thousands of emails stacked up and flying around the atmosphere somewhere and then not landing in my phone. What's your average daily intake? Two fifty at least. Yes. So about pushing a thousand this time of year. It's got to be more with all the holidays. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, because I believe in one by one. Every time. Yeah, I am missing nuts.com. Every time that I get an email that says unsubscribe and I unsubscribe, it comes the next day anyway. I mean, they're lying to me. That's not a real person. Yeah. So, you know, it doesn't really matter. And I get all these emails and I have not had an email in four days. So I know something is wrong with my phone. I hate my phone. I hate my phone. In any way. No, it's not. It's just causes anxiety that's awful. And I want to slam the phone down and break it into a thousand pieces. But I still need it as a phone. I can text. I can phone. I just don't get any email. And, you know, somebody is going to say, well, we sent you this bill and you never paid the bill. I don't get the email and somehow I'm going to be responsible. This is how it always works. People say, well, we sent it to you. Yeah, that's on you. I go, well, I never got it. Well, that's not our fault. I will. Why is it my fault? How did it become my fault? So I hate the box zero. I just hate the phone. Yeah, I hate it. I hate the fact that it's Apple, right? It was at AT&T. Not at all. It's an Apple phone. Apple can reach out into my house, life, background, anything they want and change things any time they want. You know, and it's a that's lousy. That's one of the things I wake up with. And then the dog had diarrhea at five in the morning. The dog wanted to go out and it was this is not a good day so far. It's not rainy. It is raining. It's raining and sleeting. Yes, it is. It's not raining in South Carolina. It's raining here. So anyway, let me get back to the story I was going to tell. So I get these emails every once in a while from people I haven't heard from in a long time. Some months back, I got one from Danny Gastman. Nobody knows who that is. I know who that is. He was when I first started at Newsday and I covered high school sports. He was a player on the South Side High School basketball team. Good player went to Hofstra. So fine player, the one player, Danny Gastman, wrote me a note. A friend of mine from college who I went to the Kentucky Derby with. Glenn Eisenstein, he wrote me a note. So, you know, I mean, I get these every once in a while. And Nigel will say, do you know so and so? And often I'll say, yeah, yeah, I do. So today he says to me, do you know someone named Alan Lagotte? And I go, yeah, I went to camp with him. And he hands me the same mail and just says this, Tony. Absolutely no idea if you will receive this. Recently, I read a letter my sister sent to me years ago regarding a camp Kiyuma reunion. She truly enjoyed speaking with you. Difficult to believe how many years have passed. I do note we are both working. Hope you're well, Alan. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. He's a lawyer in San Jose. He's the oldest man still working because I'm the oldest man still working. I mean, I met Alan. It's 70 years ago. I mean, honestly, I have a sense of him as a 10, 12, 14 year old kid. I have any sense of him now. That's great. I mean, people send these things and every once in a while, I go, wow. And I don't respond because I don't have email, you know, but really nice. It's nice to get that. It's always lovely. OK, couple of things in sports. Monday night football, Brock Purdy, last guy ever drafted, you know, when the year he was drafted through five touchdowns last night. San Francisco, handily defeated Indianapolis. Philip Rivers was great. Yeah, it was. Philip Rivers scored 27 points. You should win if you scored 27 points, 23 for 35 with two touchdowns. Look, great. It's pretty good. OK, 44. Yeah. He's 44. He's a grandfather, but they're not as good as the, you know, as the 49ers. 49ers, the Western Conference, the Western Division, NFC West and the NFC Conference, 12 and three for Seattle, 11 and four for San Francisco, 11 and four for the Rams. They're really good. Yeah. I mean, they're all going to make the playoffs. They're really good. And they're going to shut out a lot of other people from making the playoffs. So I was so it wasn't much of a game in the sense that every time San Francisco got the ball before I went to sleep, they scored in 10 seconds. I just said, well, what am I? Yeah, what am I doing here? But, you know, that was one river gets, you know, one score before the half. And then, of course, they make that like 65 yard fuel goal or they don't. They don't that one. You know, they're they're good. They're good. Yes. You know, the Rams are good. Seattle is good. And are the Bears good? Wilbom thinks the Bears are good. Are the Packers good or not good without Jordan Love? I don't know what this state of his injury is. But the Detroit Lions aren't going to make the playoffs. And I thought they were really good. Yeah, I think they're the most disappointing team in the league because I thought they were really good and I don't think they're going to make it. In other news, everybody knows about DK Metcalf getting two games. He'll appeal. It'll probably be knocked down to one. You can't take a swing at a guy in the stands. No, it doesn't matter what he says. You walk away. You walk away. You don't involve yourself with it. And just you never come out well in it. It just doesn't look good. Doesn't look good. Here's the thing I wanted to talk about. By the way, we were knocked off ESPN yesterday by a bowl game going late. The famous Idaho Potato Bowl ran six and a half hours. You know, so we were and we thought we were going to be on ESPN yesterday and ESPN two today, which will be today. But the opening line was Wilbom says to me, we're on ESPN one today and ESPN two tomorrow. And I say something like, why would we do the show tomorrow? Something like that. And we were on ESPN two when I said that nobody knew at that time. That just ran a lot on ESPN two. Anyway, it's not what I wanted to talk about. What I wanted to talk about, the chiefs are leaving Arrowhead Stadium. Chiefs have been in Arrowhead since 1971. You know, in Kansas City, Kansas City, Missouri, the Royal Stadium is right next to the Chiefs Stadium. That's where everybody goes to see professional sports in Kansas City. And they're lovely stadiums. And yes, it's old. It's been there for, you know, over 50 years. I think it's the third oldest stadium. Yes. I think that Soldier Field and Lambo are older. Soldier Field, 1924, Lambo, 1957. Fifty seven, I would have thought it was older than that. Yeah. So, you know, this is to me, I don't understand this. I don't understand why you'd leave Arrowhead. It's not that, you know, you can't understand where you can leave. I've been Arrowhead. I understand why you'd leave Arrowhead. But to go across the state line to leave Missouri to go to Kansas, is there a Kansas City, Kansas of prominence? Yes, but Kansas City, Missouri is the bigger town. You know, and of course, Wilbarn says it'll never happen because Wilbarn says it'll never be the Indiana Bears. And then Wilbarn started screaming about how, you know, the capitals and the wizards didn't move to Virginia. But it but they almost did. Yes. They announced they wanted to. And the older. And it was villainous. Yes. It was villainous. You know, and Mike seems to, I don't know, he seems to be taking the Arrowhead thing completely in stride. I don't know how people feel in Kansas City, Missouri. I don't know. But I mean, to me, you know, it's unthinkable. I'm not saying it's bad. Like I lived with this when the Jets and the Giants left New York to go to New Jersey and it's over 50 years and still stinks. You know, if you're from New York, it still stinks. Is it close? Sure, it's close. And people have gotten used to it. And they even call themselves the New York Giants and the New York Jets, which, you know, you really shouldn't do. We should be the New Jersey Giants and New Jersey Jets. Yeah. But, you know, I. Washington football team plays in Maryland. Yeah. But it but it belongs to the Washington area. It's sort of different. I guess it's true. Yeah. You know, I mean, D.C. is small. And a lot of things were in Maryland or in Virginia. But it was cool when the stadium. Well, now it's coming back. It's coming back. And everybody rejoices because it's coming back. Yes, you know. So what do you think, Michael? What do you think of this? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Regional identity of Kansas City, Missouri versus Kansas City, Kansas. And if there is any animosity or if that just does feel like it's part of the same general metropolitan area. I guess it does. I don't know. But I mean, always when I was a kid and I found that it was Kansas City, Missouri, that that was the big one, not Kansas City, Kansas, that registered with me that I remember this for a long period of time, that it's Kansas City, Missouri, which is odd. It's odd, but everyone seems to have. I mean, that was the one that grew bigger. Kansas City, Missouri, maybe they should have changed their name to Missouri City, Missouri, right? Something like that. You know, we'll use a name that hasn't you'd invent a name, you know, and make that Missouri. No, it's not the capital, right? That's not the capital. Missouri, the capital is Jefferson City. Jefferson City, yeah. I mean, Kansas. The two biggest cities, St. Louis and Kansas City, neither is the capital. And they're on other sides of the state, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I'm sure what the capital of Kansas is. You know, when I first heard about this, I couldn't I couldn't quite figure out of this is the best possible time has given the the success the team has had over the last decade or if it's the worst possible time. Again, you think about that lasting shot of Mahomes walking down the tunnel and you need to look at all those AAC West championship flags. And you look at all the the the hosting that they've done. And you just want to go no matter how old the stadium is, you can't replicate that recent. No, it's a great stadium. It's a great, loud stadium. You didn't wasn't your roommate in college in Kansas City? We we went with you to one of the money night games there. Yeah. So was he from Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri? Kansas City, Missouri. OK, and Kansas City Country Club, the Tom Watson. The city is in Kansas. That's in Kansas. Yes. Your country is very confusing. Yes. It. Yes. Oh, so so that's a place where everybody has to wear high sock. If I recall correctly, you know, yeah. And and so that's in Kansas. Yep. Mission Hills. Right. His name is Dean, right? His your roommate's name was Dean. Yeah. OK. So we see. I can remember some things, not many. That and song lyrics. I can remember song lyrics and I can remember to be nervous that my dog probably has to go out right now. She's going to the backyard. She's OK. Yes. All right. We will take a break. Is Chuck Todd our first guest? Chuck Todd is a first guest. Chuck Todd. Last week. He just closed it out last night was six, four and one. He is over 500. He's 58, 57 and one. Chuck Todd will pick games for us. He's not. Is he picking college games, too? He didn't indicate that he was going to college. Wonderful. So we'll talk to him when we return. I am Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is sent to us by Alexa Lash, who says, I've been sending you New South Florida musicians, so I hope they reach out soon. Second, here are two latest releases, including today's holiday release just in time for the holiday season. A Miami holiday is the name of this song. This is Alexa Lash, Alexa and the Old Fashions. Yes, which is a very nice name for a band. It is. And this is called a Miami holiday. We give this to Chuck because he's a Miami boy. And he had a good week, six, four and one. Closed it out with San Francisco winning last night. 58, 57 and one overall over 500. Congratulations. Huge. Got it. I want to. To me, you can't really be a credible playoff picker if I can't get over 500. Well, you you are over 500. Of course, you have two more weeks to go. I know, you don't want to fall under. You don't want to fall under this week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald the Monkey are brought to you by Fandall Sportsbook. Make every moment more. So let's start. The only thing I'm for it over versus the under, but I'll just leave it at that. Do you want to show partisans on the, you know, over and under on your toilet paper? Yeah, over and under toilet paper. You have no idea how often I get stuff about them. Really? Because you're an under guy. I'm an under guy. Always follow the house rules. No, no. So. Do you want to pick college games or no? Do are there many this week? You want to wait to the playoff? Don't we have it next week? Is it this week or next week? Are there four at the end of this? I don't know. No, I don't know. I don't know when they are 31st. Okay. Then we'll wait. No, I know what, by the way, you just pointed out a little bit of a problem. And I think some of it is we have no rhythm yet on these. No, on these championships. No. Yeah, we don't know. Oh, when is it now? And then after that, you're like, well, when are the next round? And then it's like kind of eight or nine day. Everything is like eight or nine days away. A proctor. I have no sense of it. I have no sense of it whatsoever. You were two and two. You picked two that you have. You had Miami and you had James Madison. I think I had J.M.U. Did I? Did I? Yeah, you picked both teams. You picked Tulane and J.M.U. to cover and they didn't. You know, one did and one didn't. Anyway, all right, so let's go to this week. Are you guys sure you don't want to cover the game above Sports Bowl with Central Michigan and Northwestern? We're not doing that. Northwestern? Not Wilbonds Northwestern. Wilbonds Northwestern. They didn't finish over six and six. There is nothing like, you know, those games are fantastic when it's one o'clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday and you're like, Hey, there's football on. You know, you're not complaining that it's Central Michigan and Northwestern at one o'clock on a Tuesday. No, we get booted off ESPN for that and we go to ESPN too. And I affirm that. I mean, live sports, I'm for that. I just think that there are so many bowl games that are nonsensical. All right, here we go. Dallas minus six and a half at Washington on Christmas Day. Washington, Philadelphia, posed them. I mean, just come on. In Philadelphia beat them badly. They don't have their number one quarterback. It looks bad, but it's home and it's Dallas and Dallas is out of the playoffs as well. I don't know. I don't know. You're gonna get six and a half? I'll take down. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Mary owed it down too. So they got some other guy. No more. Heineke. There's no more Taylor Heineke, right? We don't have that. He's not there anymore. He's not. We're gonna, I think, long for the days of Taylor Heineke on this one. You look at that Christmas Day lineup. Dallas has nothing to play for. Dallas has nothing to play for. You look at that Christmas Day lineup. It's bad. Netflix wants a refund. Yeah, it's bad. And they spent a lot of money on direct. Is there a single playoff game? No, I don't know. I don't think so. It's bad. Yeah. It's bad. It'll still outrate the NBA by 20 times. Well, there's one playoff team, the Broncos, the Lincoln. Okay. Yeah, but it's against the Chiefs. Yeah, and just, it just. Not figured to be good. I'm going to sound like Wobon here, but I confess I want to see the Wemby Thunder game. Okay. It'll be a watchable game on Christmas Day. You know, I know it's a regular season, but it's Wemby. I'm curious. Yeah. You know, he's a lot of fun to watch. I guess you have to get Dallas here because Washington just won't score points. Yeah, I don't, I think it's, yeah, I think it's a game nobody wants to watch. I do. I think it's gonna have, oh, I just, you're gonna thinkiness, but yeah. It's a Netflix game. You'll take Dallas? Yeah. Okay. The Houston Texans are getting two and a half at the Chargers. These are playoff teams in the AFC. They are a playoff. This is a Saturday game. Playoff teams that have been under the radar more than the other AFC playoff teams. Texans won seven in a row and eight out of nine charges of one seven out eight. They're hot teams right now. It's at the Chargers. Who you got? Get two and a half if you take Houston. I just, I love this Texans defense. I have a, I have a little fly. I think they're, I think if anybody gets, if anybody gets to the Super Bowl, that isn't Josh Allen in the AFC. I think it's these guys. I think it's, okay. Give me Houston. So you'll take Houston. Okay. Baltimore, which has collapsed and we don't know if they have a quarterback. Is that Green Bay, which hasn't collapsed, but we don't know if they have a quarterback. They don't know have a quarterback. Exactly. We don't know. Saturday game, Baltimore plus two and a half at Green Bay. Baltimore, I can, I think technically make the playoffs. I think they can, but it takes, they have to win both and Pittsburgh has to lose both. So. Yeah, that was a, they had a bad weekend. Yeah. It was a worst possible outcome. Somehow Pittsburgh won and somehow they, and they blew that game with two and a half. I trust, um, the floor with Malik, will, will us in a week to sort of turn it into just a, just an ugly game that, that, uh, that they can, uh, essentially win by a field goal, which is what this line says. Don't give me the pack. Yep. Okay. Take the Packers, Jacksonville. And they only have to win one. They have to win one of their next two. And they get it. That's right. Pittsburgh did them a favor by not gonna have Detroit as well. Detroit. Sure. Jacksonville at Indianapolis, Jacksonville giving now six and a half points at Indy. Phillip Rivers has been great. It's great to see him, but Indy, they're done. They're out. It's, you know, they have nothing to play for and Jacksonville does six and a half is a lot, but not the way they're playing lately. They've won, I think seven in a row and eight out of nine. They're really hot. You know, I think Phillip Rivers is going to get a lot of middle-aged men hurt this week. You do. He's going to make us. Yeah. He's going to make a lot of middle-aged men. People are going to think they can do this. Hey, I could do this. Come on, son. Let's go throw. Let's go throw the ball around. I'm with you. I'd give me a Jacksonville. Speaking of, are we, are we supposed to buy into them? Do you buy into it? Or? I'm not yet, but that was very impressive. Beating Denver at Denver like that was very impressive. And Liam Cohn is a coach of the year candidate along with Mike Vrable and along with Ben Johnson. And, and, and Trevor Lawrence, who was underachieving for a couple of years, Trevor Lawrence has looked great in the last, we had this stat yesterday in the last four games. Trevor Lawrence has accounted for 14 touchdowns running and passing and no interceptions. So he's closing like a horse. You know, it's amazing what a good coach can do. You're, you're so, you point out when you just pointed this out, you're like, Jacksonville looked like a franchise in mud. The Patriots were just terrible. One coach brings some discipline and that flips the script. Exactly. It's exactly true. Those guys. Yes. Yes. All right. Seattle at Carolina. Carolina kicked the can down the road by beating Tampa Bay. He's going to have to beat them again in Tampa Bay in the last week. Seattle is minus seven and a half at Carolina. That's a large number, but Seattle's the number one seed in the end. Of C right now. Will you give that point? And I think, and I think I'm thinking about it because I believe this game means nothing to Carolina. Correct? Like I don't think it matters. No, they still have to beat Tampa Bay. No matter what they have to beat Tampa. Um, boy, because of that, I think they coat. I think you, I think you're careful how you coach, aren't you? And you're careful with which players you play and all that. Well, that's, uh, give me Seattle. Okay. We will take Seattle Philadelphia had a nice win, um, over Washington, but a nice win. They're getting one and a half at Buffalo. Um, if you call a brawl, a nice win, we're not talking about the brawl. Well, that was late. Wasn't it? That was late in the game. Yeah. You know, I don't know about this game, Philadelphia Buffalo. I don't really have a good sense of Philadelphia Buffalo at all. I mean, I don't know what they're another one. I don't feel like he's going to get in. No, they don't need it. I mean, it's, it's the, it's, I guess you're playing for a two seed or a three seed, right? That's the only thing you're playing for if you're silly, right? That's right. You get, you're going to get one home game. You're going to finish ahead of the Carolina Tampa Bay winner. You know, I don't know. I don't, you know, not much to play for Buffalo's in Buffalo's not going to catch New England, not much to play for, not much to play for. What will you do? You're right. This is a, this is a game that, that looks good on paper, but yeah, I, I, I guess I expect Philly to turtle up more than Buffalo. Forgive me, Buffalo. Okay. We will take Buffalo. And the last game is a Sunday night game. Two very good teams. Chicago, Chicago's hot right now. Chicago's getting three at San Francisco. San Francisco is hot right now. This is Sunday night. So, this is a Sunday night game. Three at San Francisco. San Francisco is hot right now. This is Sunday night. San Francisco can be the number one seed if it wins its two remaining games. I don't think Chicago can be, um, but Chicago one. There's a way for them to get the one. No, there's, there's the two seed. And there is the Wilbarn factor, which makes me rude for San Francisco in this one, obviously. But you know, look, I, I did, my son gets mad at me. I care. The Hurricanes playoff game was more important than the Packers bears game. He doesn't like that I said that, but it was true. The game was brutal. I had to tell you, the, I was the thrill of victory in the day and the agony of that defeat. Like 10 things had to happen for the Packers to lose that game. And yes, impasse as Wilbarn said, impossible for Chicago to win that game. And they won the game. Yes. In fact, I thought Chicago made a mistake when they didn't go for two. And they forced, yes. I was weirdly relieved, but, um, I, uh, give me the Niners. They're, you know, is this the quietest 13 win team that the Niners have ever had? Like they, it is there an afterthought this year. It feels that way. They just rack up the wins. Do we think they're not good? Do we, do we, do we, do we think the Mac? Think the Mac Jones sort of, uh, mid-season replacement thing there, like detracts from Purdy, although Purdy was pretty good last night. Purdy had five touchdowns last night. I don't, I like San Francisco, but they have a lot of injuries. Kittle just hurt his ankle. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how good they are. I don't know how good anybody is because every time you focus on a team, they then lose, they then lose. They have to go all season long. Yeah. I mean, you're, you're so right. It's the best season in years. 12 teams this year at one point or another, you said, Oh, they're the team. That's right. That's right. It's the best season the NFL has had in years. It is. It's been fantastic. Yeah. Because Kansas, and it's, because Kansas City is not dominating. It is the best season. Look at the two seven seats right now, right? Aren't they the Packers and, uh, who's the seven seed in the, they have said that, uh, probably the chargers, the Texas or the Texans, the Texans, right, the Texans. Yeah. Cause they're 10 and five Texans. Both of them, if they were in the Super Bowl, would it totally shock you? Right. No, no, not, not this year. Not this year because there's no real dominant team. There's none. So, all right. Good luck with this. The committee, do they put the chiefs in? How does that work? Is he gonna fill the cost of the playoff? Yeah. They, they're going to caucus and they're going to say that even though the chiefs lost twice to one team, we're going to put the chiefs in. Yeah. Because we like to sit around with them. Yeah. All right. So next week you'll pick college games. Next week. Next week. Next week. All right. I do like, uh, I do like Northwestern over Central Michigan, if you care. But anyway, I'm just kidding. We're going, we're going the other way on that. They're taking the chip a while. All right. Talk to you. Chuck Todd, boys and girls. And if we just gave you Chuck Todd, that would be enough, but we give you a monkey. Sing along everybody. Zoom, zoom. Five, two, boom. All right. What do you got? Not a tough week for the monkey. One and two, 17 and 31. He, it's a lost season. It's, it is. It's a lost season. You know, so I went down to the national zoo. I was expecting to be morose, but it wasn't. He was, uh, it was the middle of the, the annual winter, winter bowl charity that he throws. So there was lots of people, you know, everybody was dressed in black ties and gowns. Oh, nice. Very, very lovely. Nice. Some of the, and you know what this is charity for, of course, this is the big project he does every year to help repatriate monkeys to the native homeland of Monaco. Yes. So it's a big, yes. Monaco because he liked to live in Monaco or he wouldn't like to live in Monaco. Right. Um, and the, the cavalcade of celebrities that were there. I know you're always interested in who we was hanging out with. Helen Hunt was there. Um, butch Weinegger also and Snooki from Jersey Shore. Snooki. Yeah. That show was awful. That show was a plague upon humanity. Yes. It really was awful. And, and, and Tim Tann laundry, exactly. Uh, and you'll be happy to know the Vogue's were performing as the entertainment. So yeah, it's five o'clock world for the Vogue's five o'clock world. So the whistle blows. No one owns a piece of my mind. And there's a long hair girl who waits for me to ease my trouble. Mine. Yeah, I know. I can't help myself. So what are the games with first match we gave him was Dallas, uh, giving six and a half of the Washington football team. I took Washington last week. He did down. Went down on it. Uh, he showed me an old photograph of him on the set of Dallas alongside Larry Hagman. Apparently he was a frequent guest star on that television program. Tells me he will take the Cowboys and lay the points. Chuck took the Cowboys too. Uh, the next match we gave him was the Chargers at home giving two and a half to the Texans. Uh, and this was again, a very old picture he showed me in the newspaper of him racing stock cars with Dan Fouts, Charlie Joyner and Lydanie and Tomlin. So he will take the charges. Tells me he's going to take the home team. Even though it's not a big home field advantage. It's not, it really isn't. Very few people go. Yeah. Um, but he likes the charges. So I shouldn't say very few people go. They're just not loud. Yeah, it's not. It's not a push. They're not, they're not for the ramp. It's the other team. It's Los Angeles. And so they, you know, uh, and the last match you gave him was the Eagles getting one and a half at the bills. And this is a lovely picture he showed me of him at a flapjack eating contest with Steve Carlton, Alan Iverson and Bake McBride. So he will go Philadelphia. Yes. And take the point and a half. That's wonderful. This week's picks with Chuck Todd and Reginald the monkey have been brought to you by Fandall sports book. Make every moment more. Um, we will come back with Chuck Culpepper. It's an all Chuck day on this show. Chuck Culpepper will talk about college football in the playoffs. When we return, I'm Tony cornhizer. You're listening to the Tony cornhizer show. Once again, we're going to play the music of Alexa and the old fashions. This is a song called this is it. You can listen to this in its entirety after we're done yapping. Michael, if independent artists like Alexa and the old fashions want to send in their music, how do they do it? Send us your music by emailing it to jinglez at Tony cornhizer show.com. And it plays in Chuck Culpepper, who has been following all the college football that has been going on. I have a million questions here. And I'm going to start with Alabama and Miami winning on the road in the first round this year. Last year, the road teams were 0 and 4. This year they were two and two, but the, you know, the two most watched and anticipated games without the group of five teams in them. Those two times, Alabama won on the road and Miami won on the road. Do you have an explanation for that? Is this meaningful or is it not? Or don't we know yet? I think we don't know yet. I think it's, it's meaningful in the sense that it, it interrupted, you know, that little mini trend of the first year. And, um, but those are, it's mean. And it's also meaningful in the sense of Oklahoma and Texas A&M, the places that they won are places that are, you know, notoriously really hard to win. And I was in Oklahoma for that game and just the amount of energy that was in town Friday afternoon, that game was Friday night. The amount of energy was there. It just, I don't know if in their hundred and odd years of football, if they had ever had anything that was as, that was quite like that. So the idea that Alabama would come in there, fall behind 17 to nothing. 17 nothing. Yes. It is something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was, that was, it was so surprising that they went down by that amount and so surprising the way they came back. I think they, you know, a punt got blocked or missed or, and then it was a pick six. And suddenly at the half that was, the game was tied. And, and I just, you know, the, the other ongoing thing is Kailin DeBourg and how difficult it is to coach at Alabama. If you don't win every single game by 50 points. So this is the overall question. Michigan does not have a coach. Everybody seems to think that Kailin DeBourg would be a good fit at Michigan. Is there any way you can see Alabama, even if they win the national championship, Kailin DeBourg would leave and go to Michigan because Michigan doesn't have anybody yet. I think he's a tremendous coach and maybe even you would say great. I think he's like the kind of coach that sort of goes to a place in the most recent case, it was Washington and, and suddenly everything is efficient and everything is, you know, is everything is running on time, so to speak. I cannot see that reality at all, especially after the win at Oklahoma. I just, I'd be stunned if that happened. It would it be a good pick for Michigan? I think yes. But would he do it? I just think that's the kind of thing that sticks with you for the remainder of your career, really, that you, that you, that you sort of made that leap after, you know, after a big, you know, crescendo at Alabama. And so, you know, we could always say Nick Saban kind of did the same thing in 2007 when he suddenly turned around and left the Dolphins for Alabama and that he won so much at Alabama that people that delused, you know, that whole story. We all kind of forgot about it after a while, but this one, I just think would be shocking to me. Yeah, but it'd be such a great story. That's why I bring it up. I mean, if in fact he wanted to go because he felt more at home, you know, in in the Midwest of America than in the South of America. And especially if he won a title and he walked, you know, and nobody could blame him. Anyway, it's just, you know, it would make a great story. Let me get to the Miami A&M game. That game was brutal. That was torture. Now, for 57 minutes, that game was so bad without any offense whatsoever. It had a great close. I don't know if anybody was awake anymore, but what were your thoughts about that game? Well, I confess that this would rank among my several oddities about myself, but I love games like that. I love when nobody's scoring. Remember Super Bowl 53, the Rams and the Patriots in Atlanta, and it was 3-3 after the 13-3 game or something like that. 13-3 game. That's right. It's still the lowest scoring one, probably always will be. And I just love sitting there thinking about what's gone on in the film room. And of course, that day in Atlanta, my colleague Adam Kilgore did a brilliant job of explaining what it was, what the Patriots had figured out about the Rams and so on. But with Miami and Texas A&M, I was thinking the same thing. What have they found out about each other? And of course, they're not going to tell you. But what, you know, what is it that has enabled both sides and factoring in Miami's missed field goals, you know, so they did move all three. Yeah. But it's enabled both sides to sort of just shut off the other like this. And I love watching it to see sort of where it will go. And I realized that that places me among probably few. Well, yeah, I mean, I watched it. I watched it sitting there saying if I played for Notre Dame, I would say I'll beat them both today. You know, this is the reason I'm not in. We lost to them. Be lost in August by a total of four points. And we would beat them today. Both teams on the field. Right. Notre Dame's got to feel that way. Don't you think? Oh, they absolutely watched that game. If if they could bring themselves to watch that game, they watched it in that in that manner for sure, especially as as, you know, sort of humming as their machine got after after those two losses. You know, the 400 and 40 points in the last 10 games to 143 against. So they, yeah, they had to watch that. It they had, if I were from Notre Dame, I watched it, I would have to shut it off at some point because it would be just agony. Do you think Notre Dame right now could beat both those teams? Yes, I do. I also think they could lose to both of those teams because the Notre Dame, you know, the 10, the 10 wins that they got after the two losses. Not great. They're not great. Yeah. There were three, two and 10 teams in their Purdue, Arkansas and BC. So it's hard to read, but sure, I think so. And especially as much as they got it going, especially with having, you know, just enough players around who, who did this last year and went all the way to title to the final game. To the final game. That matters. Yeah. All right. I read, I read your piece in the Washington Post yesterday. It's a wonderful piece. I'm afraid you're going to call me a whiner because I am on the other side. I'm on the other side of you on this piece. I look at Tulane and James Madison. God bless them. But I don't think, I don't think they were competitive, particularly. I think these were basically walk over games for the teams that they played. I don't understand why there has to be a group of five team in there. I don't, I just don't. I don't get it. I think with the 12 teams, you ought to try and get the best 12. I don't think it's a charity tournament. And I would have put in Texas and Notre Dame over Tulane and James Madison. And now you tell me why I'm wrong. And it's okay. It's okay. I, I just like that idea of, of the variety of, and also the picking the best 12 teams is always going to be impossible. It has been for 150 years or, you know, in the sport. It's so sprawling. Not everybody can play each other. You know, sorting that out is always going to be an argument, I think. And they're always going to be capable arguments on both sides. And I think that with the, you know, the NCAA tournament, which we all love, I guess, I'll put a few of us, maybe, but it's, but it's, they don't choose the best 68. And they don't aim to choose the best 68. And that sort of mix that they put into it has been one of its fabrics to me that make it, you know, so beloved and so cherished. And now that's when we start getting into maybe matters of is football just different as a concept from basketball? You know, I know, I'm sure you've seen a lot of talk about this. Maybe, maybe having the smaller schools in there and football is not as sort of a viable an idea as it is in basketball, just because of the way the two sports are played, you know, you can remit one player in basketball can make such a can change everything. Difference. Yes. Jeff Curry, that Davidson suddenly there in the elite eight, you know, so, so we have, you have to think about that way too, as the counter argument to mine, which is maybe it's just a sport that doesn't work that way. And the leading evidence of that would be the layering difference in speed in the Oregon James Madison game. My good. Yeah. I mean, these teams scored, you know, they scored the first three times they got the ball in both of the. OK, so we'll agree to disagree on this one. Which of the top four teams to you seems most vulnerable? And that would be, you know, Ohio State and Indiana and Texas Tech and whom I leaving out Georgia. Yeah. Georgia. I guess I think I guess it's Texas Tech. There are a few troubles on offense. Oregon, that's going to be a fabulous thing there in Miami between those two. So I think Oregon versus Texas Tech kind of is an idea that makes Texas Tech the most vulnerable of the four. I just, even though Ohio State lost to Indiana, I still don't, I can't spot many vulnerabilities there and I'm going to stop. I have vowed to stop trying to spot any vulnerabilities with Indiana because, you know, you sort of think along the way it's going to, they'll falter at some point, but they've reached this point now of such the sort of overall competence that while normally I would say, Bama going into the Rose Bowl is going to beat them and certainly could, I just think they are the best team. Yeah. I mean, they've proven it this year. The doubts we have about them is about history. It's not about, it's not current. It's not current. Right. It's about history, though I will tell you that for Alabama to win the national championship, given all of this all year would be a cool story. That's a cool story. The only other question I have is, they sit idle for a long time. This is not the bowl game structure, you know, where you sit idle for two months and then you play in a bowl game. This is more meaningful than a bowl game. And I don't know if this is great to be idle. What is it? As many as three weeks, right? You mean before between the end of the regular season and the beginning of the play and one of the seeded teams to play? Yeah. And I really believe that that factor right there helped. It was a big part of explaining why Texas A&M and Miami couldn't score. I really do. Yeah. Yeah. And it was on the good side, you know, things that they figured out rather than things that they blundered. So I, yes, I think, well, we were so accustomed to what it used to be. Remember the end of November, for example, Ohio State and Michigan would play and then New Year's Day, one of them would play in the Rose Bowl. It is an old, old tradition and one of them would play in the Rose Bowl often with a chance to win the national championship. So I guess we've actually probably shortened that duration and maybe we'll shorten it more when there's a 16 team playoff as inevitably there will be. And that's fine. But what I'm saying is in those situations, both teams waited the same amount of time and in this situation, there's a team that's playing in between. You know what I mean? They'd get their sea legs back. I don't know if it's fair, although last year it seemed to me. Oh, I see what you're saying. And last year, all, but remember the, um, this year, the all, but remember the, um, this round coming up last year, quarter finals, the five, six, seven and eight beat the one, two, three and four. Now that conference title thing there where SMU and, and, uh, Boise State had higher seeds than, than Penn State. And, um, you know, and so I think it's, it's definitely a factor of it looks like it again, just probably too small of a sample size so far, but it is true that all of those lower seeds who had played on that first weekend, they won the next. Yes. So where will you be? What's the, the, the definite game you're going to go to? I assume it's Alabama, Indiana. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yeah. That's true. I mean, that to me, that's, yeah, if I'm, if I'm a sports editor and I got one guy, I'm sending them to the, to that game. Sure. Okay. Chuck, enjoy. We'll talk to you on the other side of it. Thank you. Thank you so much, Tony. Thank you. Chuck Culpepper is a great coach. Chuck Culpepper is a great writer, kids. Washington Post, Chuck Culpepper. We will take a break. We will come back with email in jingle. I am Tony Kornhizer. You're listening to the Tony Kornhizer show. I think this is a terrible, terrible idea. Ronnie Neumeier and his best Bruce Springsteen. It's pretty good. Wonderful. 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Please leave us a review. Here we go. Tim Fitzgerald, Seattle, Washington. For the last two, three to four years, I've been trying wildly unsuccessfully to explain to my 80 year old mother-in-law the difference between cellular and Wi-Fi on her phone. Kind of like you in the physics of electric toothbrushes. Now that we've settled on, cellular comes from the sky, and Wi-Fi comes from the walls. What is the definition of insanity again? So please remind Michael that not all heroes wear capes. And it says, please enjoy this AI rendering of Wilbon in his newest bear swag. And it's a picture of Wilbon. It's not really Wilbon. It looks more like Don than Mike. And he's wearing bears inside the outline of the state of Indiana, which is funny. Kurt Unruh, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Speaking of Indiana. Thank you for mentioning my fair city last night on PTI with the relocation of the bears to Fort Wayne. Get you to visit our city. You could hang out with Glenn from Norwegian Softkitten and myself at Club Soda while sharing a glass of Johnny Walker Blue and see the new stadium from the patio. While it will never happen, it is a nice location for a stadium right across from our lovely courthouse and other government buildings. Luke Russert even visited us a few months ago. Though we don't have a memorial for foreign Lieberwitz. Keep on potting and happy holidays, which is very nice. From Steve the Sick of Phant. My thanks to you, Michael and Nigel, and the entire staff for providing me for hours upon hours of entertainment. I hope your holiday season is great. As the new year approaches, I must note that Mr. Mike Toddlin Town Wilbon just made the quote of 2025. While talking to Wilbon about the Bears Packers game, you said, did you meet the mayor? His immortal reply, meet the mayor. I know the mayor. Wishing happiness to one and all. Kelly Pears or Kelly Pears or Kelly Pears. PhD, Alexandria, Louisiana. I was delighted to hear Mr. Wilbon filled with joy on Monday's podcast. It was a nice way to start the Christmas week rather than as usual rants of how stupid people are, although I usually agree with his rants and rather enjoy watching reactions. And wow, what an ending to the Bears game. Wilbon keeps touting Richard Dent as the only defensive player to win Super Bowl MVP. Hang on, Sparky. Here is a list of such players. Super Bowl V, Chuck Howley, linebacker Dallas, Super Bowl VII, Jake Scott, Safety Miami, Super Bowl XII, Harvey Martin and Randy White, defensive line Dallas, Super Bowl XX, Richard Dent, Super Bowl XXX, Larry Brown, that's what I was thinking of, cornerback Dallas, Super Bowl XXXV, Ray Lewis, linebacker Baltimore, Super Bowl XXXVII, Dexter Jackson, cornerback Tampa Bay, Super Bowl XXXVIII, Malcolm Smith, linebacker Seattle, Super Bowl XXXV, Vaughn Miller, linebacker Denver. My wife and I were going to Chicago for New Year's, thought it'd be fun to go to the Bears game the first week of January since we live in Louisiana and don't own such things as parkers and overcoats. Could you ask Wilbon if we can sit with him in the luxury box? I'm sure it'll be nice and toasty in there. Thanks for all that you do to keep us littles entertained and informed. That's very nice. Mark Gdelsky, North Bethesda, Maryland. Your recent discussions about collecting matchbooks reminded me of my father's pension for taking ashtrays from restaurants and hotels. He didn't smoke, but this was in the 60s and 70s. When smoking was common, he would pocket them as souvenirs. They usually had the name of the establishment on them, but some were just decorative. This was the case on a trip to Charlottesville, Virginia, where he took a pretty ashtray from the hotel my parents were staying at with my aunt and uncle. Later after the four of them were leaving a tour of Thomas Jefferson's Monticello, my father reached inside his coat, pulled out the ashtray and said to my uncle, look what I just took from inside. My uncle was beside himself and insisted it had to be returned to Monticello. He didn't calm down until he was convinced that it came from the hotel. When my father died, we had to dispose of five or six boxes of Perloined ashtrays. Wow. Tony T. in Brooklyn, N.D.C. So many folks on board with the matchbooks. It's great. Now I can fanboy over Mr. Tony even more because I saved them as well. I've attached a picture of one of my favorites that I had made for a bar I ran. I opened that bar in 1996. It's where I serve drinks to the Indianapolis crew members. I believed I moved on to open my own bar. Mr. Saliza hosted trivia nights there. And one of my sort of David Aldrich moments every couple of weeks during Sunday brunch NFL game shifts, Mr. Carver would be walking down the block. He would pull open the front door, look in and ask who's winning. He never came in, but he always made my day. Lately I'm curious if he called T-Boy after he took a quick glance at all the games. Happy holidays. And this is pictures of where he'd been, the restaurant city had opened, Capitol Lounge being one of them. From Brandon Borzelli in Lebanon, New Jersey, so much talk about where and what to do with the Matchbox collection. Do you frame your best memories and add them to the living room? Display the themes of your life, sports related, personal favorites, fanciest places, et cetera. Do you line the elevator in Delaware with them? Do you sign them with a little story about where and when they came from? You can sell them as columnettes. Do you add them to the Emmy display? The Emmy display is in a closet. The real question is, where is the Matchbox from the Lilihammer jacket purchase? There is none. If the jacket had gotten this mileage over 30 years, then the matches could be strikeless, waterproof and hurricane proof. If the Russians had the Lilihammer jacket, if the Russian had the Lilihammer jacket, when he escaped Chris and Paul, he surely would have survived the Pine Barrens incident. Brett Hobbs, Lytton, Indiana, your recent story about your winter coat brought to mind my own favorite piece of winter gear. When I joined the Navy in the 70s, I was issued a standard Navy P-coat of all the uniform items I received back then. It's the one thing I've held on to after all these years, paired with a wool cap that coat has kept me warm in every kind of weather. Plus with my beard and aged face, I've noticed I look less like a veteran and more like I should be captaining a crab fishing vessel in the Arctic. Isn't that nice? Jew Allen, for years I imagined the Lilihammer jacket was some awful 1990s red, white and blue Olympic team USA jacket. I was way off. Oh yeah, way off. Chris Bancel's, Faris Till, Maryland. Did I hear Michael correctly, teaching at this time of year is on cruise control? You have clearly never taught in an elementary school in December. Friday afternoon featured candy cane and scented vomit. How's that for cruise control? Neil Airvase in Colorado. As you were reading the email from John Stieglitz on yesterday's show about the greatest living baseball player, I started yelling Sandy Kofax before you validated my opinion. The mention of Sandy Kofax reminded me of a wonderful story shared with me by another lifelong Gajra fan who was attending a game at Dodger Stadium. When he fortuitously encountered Mr. Kofax on the concourse after timidly introducing himself, sharing that Mr. Kofax was a childhood hero and praising his on and off field contributions to the game and society. My friend asked if he might shake Sandy's hand. Hand, when Mr. Kofax obliged and held out his right hand, my father responded, no, the other one offered his left. Lefty, sure. Gracious as always, Mr. Kofax smiled and accommodated him. Eric from McLean. I find myself driving my teenage daughter here, there and everywhere around the DMV. On occasion, she might passively hear some of your podcast. I value that time where we might have some conversation. As a clueless middle-aged dad, I asked her, what does six and seven mean? She said, it means nothing. Nothing, I don't get it. She responded to finally, what does five and 11 mean? A, to Shady, I've never been so proud. Mark Becker, Silver Spring, Maryland. I've been a Washington football fan for all 68 years of my life. My father had season tickets going back to Griffith Stadium. The game this week gives us a great opportunity if the commanders win their record will be five and 11. I know all of us littles are praying hard for this. Happy holidays. Adam Benson, St. John's Newfoundland. Please tell Dave, I won't be able to meet up with him at the farmer's market. On Saturday the 27th, I'll be in Gander at my mother's house for Christmas. But I'll be back in town on January 1st. PSI have a second cousin named Adam Benson as well. Why is everybody in Newfoundland named Adam Benson? Why is that? And from Jeff Simpson in Arlington, Virginia. Too cold for a club sandwich. A new meteorological standard for the Capital Weather Gang's winter forecast. If you're out of your bike tonight, as always, everyone, you wear white. Well, that's about it from me. I'd just like to say, all the best for Christmas and a happy new year. Thanks, Ringo. Mommy, how come there are no songs about a Mamie Christmas? I'd seem so allegorical for how I've been feeling. A child who lived in extra views to 20 years to learn the truth started healing. It's when the cold air blows. I'll be your baby in the land where it doesn't snow. It doesn't snow. I can't tell all our family plans to build a snowman out of sand, got to chill us from out the lies. Some songs about such snowy days while waving under, endless rays of sunshine. Streets and new ages like a thard, paper and a shea, broken hearts painted neon and bright. Debt the holes on rented docks, rock sandals with a pair of socks and rocks so bright. It's when the cold air blows. I'll be your baby in the land where it doesn't snow. I'll be your baby in the land where it doesn't snow. Let's drop by a Christmas tree that fits in our apartment. Let's drink a cocoa while we build our opening garden. We're lumped in blankets by a necklace you will all find. Can't wait for the holidays with you. You do the right thing. 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