Set 2: Bugs Bunny (w/ Sal Licata)
30 min
•Feb 11, 20262 months agoSummary
The hosts discuss Christopher 'Mad Dog' Russo's appearance at Radio Row during Super Bowl week, debating whether he or Mike Francesa is the most entertaining sports radio personality. The episode features audio clips of Russo mispronouncing 'Bad Bunny' as 'Bugs Bunny' and delivering an impassioned rant about NBA load management, comparing players' work ethic to Bruce Springsteen and Michael Jordan.
Insights
- Entertainment value in sports media is distinct from expertise—Russo's appeal lies in unpredictable, high-energy delivery rather than analytical depth
- Personality-driven radio succeeds through authenticity and consistency; Russo's willingness to go on rants about seemingly trivial topics builds loyal audiences
- Guest booking strategy in sports media relies heavily on personal relationships and rolodexes built over decades; newer personalities lack the network access of established figures
- Load management in professional sports remains a contentious issue among commentators, with traditionalists viewing player rest as a lack of commitment
- Radio production timing and music cues are critical to segment impact; knowing when to let talent breathe and when to cut to music enhances storytelling
Trends
Personality-driven sports commentary outperforming analytical expertise in audience engagementNBA load management becoming a generational divide in sports media criticismPodcast and radio guest booking increasingly dependent on established media figures' personal networksSports media figures leveraging multiple platforms simultaneously (SiriusXM, YouTube, traditional radio, podcasts)Nostalgia for 'old school' work ethic narratives in sports commentary (comparing modern athletes to past generations)Radio production techniques (music integration, timing, silence) as underrated elements of content qualityCross-generational mentorship in sports media (established figures like Russo influencing younger broadcasters)
Topics
Christopher Mad Dog Russo's broadcasting style and entertainment valueMike Francesa vs. Mad Dog Russo comparisonNBA load management and player rest practicesSports radio guest booking and talent acquisitionRadio production techniques and on-air timingWork ethic narratives in professional sportsSports media personality developmentSuper Bowl week Radio Row coveragePodcast and streaming platform strategy for sports mediaCelebrity guest appearances in sports radioSiriusXM and traditional radio programmingSports betting and prop bet commentaryPitcher workload management in MLBProfessional athlete compensation and expectationsSports media industry relationships and networking
Companies
SiriusXM
Platform where Adam Schein works alongside his other media roles, mentioned as part of multi-platform sports media em...
ESPN
Employer of Mikey, who has extensive contacts in the sports media industry and works on First Take
CBS
Adam Schein works on CBS sports content, mentioned as part of his multi-platform employment portfolio
New York Post
Adam Schein recently took a job with the Post, doing podcast or YouTube channel content
iHeartRadio
Podcast distribution platform and host of 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards mentioned in ad reads
FanDuel
Sports betting platform sponsoring the show, offering winter games betting options
Audible
Audiobook and podcast platform sponsoring the iHeart Podcast Awards
People
Christopher 'Mad Dog' Russo
Legendary sports radio personality whose Radio Row appearance and broadcasting style are the primary focus of the epi...
Mike Francesa
Former co-host of Mad Dog Russo; compared throughout episode as counterpoint to Russo's entertainment value
Sal Licata
Guest on the episode who shares opinions on Russo's entertainment value and sports media personalities
Adam Schein
Sports media personality working across multiple platforms (SiriusXM, CBS, New York Post); mentioned regarding Radio ...
Colin Russo
Son of Christopher Russo; suggested as potential contact to access his father's extensive rolodex of celebrity connec...
Eddie Erickson
Producer for Christopher Russo; subject of on-air jokes about his weight and work ethic during Radio Row coverage
Taylor Vipolis
Producer for Stu Gotts; met Christopher Russo at Radio Row and discussed his experience with the personality
Stu Gotts
Host of the show; organized Radio Row coverage and discussed guest booking strategy for high-profile personalities
Bruce Springsteen
Referenced by Russo as example of work ethic; Russo compared modern athletes unfavorably to Springsteen's 3.5-hour ni...
Jalen Jackson
NBA player criticized by Russo for sitting out fourth quarter games despite $50 million salary
Sydney Sweeney
Actress who appeared as guest on WFAN; discussed as example of unexpected celebrity booking success
Jim Nance
Sports broadcaster mentioned as potential guest; dismissed as not aiming high enough for Russo's network
Howard Stern
Radio personality mentioned as someone Russo has appeared on; referenced regarding Russo's broad media presence
David Letterman
Late-night host who has had Russo on his show multiple times; suggested as high-profile connection in Russo's network
Quotes
"He's the singular most entertaining radio host to ever do it. No matter where he is, he's always turned up."
Sal Licata•Early in episode
"When Mad Dog goes off on a rant, I'm in. I don't care what it is. I'm in."
Unnamed host•Mid-episode discussion
"I'm supposed to sit there now, and I'm supposed to take this league seriously when I see this nonsense?"
Christopher Russo•Audio clip segment
"This is a 21-year-old kid with the Wizards and Jackson decided to sit out, goddammit! Hit it, Bruce!"
Christopher Russo•Load management rant
"He is not the most entertaining man in the history of sports radio. He's just the most entertaining man in the history of the world."
Host•Post-audio clip reaction
Full Transcript
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Get yours before they sell out at Ticketmaster.com So we both grew up listening to Christopher Mad Dog Russo and Mike Francesco, of course. Doggy is, he's fucking crazy, dude. One of the coolest things for me late in my career has been the friendship that has blossomed with me and Christopher Mad Dog Russo. I love the man to death. I'm not certain there was a better half hour by any show in America than the half hour we did with Chris Russo last week at Radio Row. When my uncle is texting me. Holy shit, that was good. My uncle hasn't texted me in two years. I didn't know my uncle knew how to text. And he sent me that text. But you would agree, doggy, as he gets older, he's fucking losing it. No? He's incredible. He's got to be the most entertaining personality of all time. For me. Like, I love Mike and the Mad Dog, and I love Mike and respect Mike greatly. But Dog is, to me, the singular most entertaining radio host to ever do it. No matter where he is, he's always turned up. It was great with you. I think he's the best to ever do it. I agree. Do you guys agree with that? Is Doggy the best? Now, Mike's going to be offended, just so we're clear. but is Doggy the most entertaining guy ever in the history of sports radio? Because I think Sal is right about that. They're different. Francesa is a lot more... Together they're magical. We all know that. Put that aside. I mean, that's why they work so well together because they were yin and yang. But as far as entertainment goes, when Mad Dog goes off on a rant, I'm in. I don't care what it is. I'm in. I've gone to comedy shows before. I've never laughed as hard as I did when we had Mad Dog Chris Russo on our set. He was a rare, rare fool. Going into the week, I had high expectations for meeting Mad Dog in person, having him as a guest on the show. Whatever those expectations were, he blew them completely out of the water. He gave us his A game, man. He really did. I'm excited for you, Taylor, being that it was the first time you ever met him. So it makes me think of all those memories and things like that. He's just, he's a different animal dog. But Stu, come on. I don't want to, it's the Mike versus the mad dog. No, no, no. I'm not, I'm not doing that. You're right. Listen, together they're magical. It's the best sports radio duo in the history of sports radio. Me and Dan, a close second, I would say. I'm being serious. I could have put us first. I didn't. I put them first out of respect. So I love both of them. But they're the greatest. when you split them apart, Mike's got a different style. He is corrected. He is calm. He's got, you know, he's organized. Yes, yes. He's got information from sources. Dog is just letting it fly. And you combine the fact that he's letting it fly and his inability to pronounce the most basic of names and words does make him, in my mind, I'm with you, Sal, the most entertaining guy to ever do this. Yeah, I didn't want to say that he's better than Mike, But I'm saying the most entertaining personality to ever do it. That's what I would say. They're different, like you said. But my God, man, no matter where he is, he goes on with you or Howard Stern or whatever. Goes on these ridiculous rants that just mean nothing. Referencing Bob Cousy or whatever. Pick a guy. Super Bowl III. He's referencing all this ridiculous stuff. He's wild. He's crazy. I can't thank you enough, Stu, for Radio Row and getting us out there and getting me back to Radio Row. but my biggest regret of radio row was I did not sit in on that interview because you put me and Izzy on Cole commit and Darren Woodson in the side stage. And I don't think I've ever been so mad at Taylor when he was like, yeah, I'll sit in on this one. And I'm like, really? I, okay. I'll go ask Cole commit about Campbell's chunky soup. God, listen to me. Listen, I love you. I'm not so unlike Collins producer. Okay. I am going to take responsibility here. I am not going to push it off the Taylor. I asked Taylor to be there with me for doggy. Of course. Okay. Of course. Taylor did not decide that on his own. I think we all know Taylor. He does not mind spreading the wealth around. Okay. I asked Taylor because we have done doggy before and there's not enough room for all four of us. No. When mad dog is up there, especially when he brings his a game. I told Taylor, I wanted him there with me. That's all. Well, I mean, and we also had to ask Cole commit about chunky soup and somebody had to do it. that's that's that's a rough flow mike yay i'm sorry buddy colker met you're missing out on doggy who's going wild what's too entail a ripping on eddie erickson lighting up radio row and you're sitting there with chunky scampbell super cold yeah what did comet say anything did that even air where did that interview air while you were staring at us to be fair mikey when mad dog was going off up there i almost just felt like a spectator and then oh yeah and anytime he started to die down i was just thinking in my head what's what's the match that i could light right now to get him back going and then like the second he would calm down i'd be like adam shine didn't invite you to dinner yeah yeah it was great and listen shine's pissed at me because I uh I told dog he should have fired him and I think shine is now mad at me because I asked him to come on Monday and he said no he said no well he said he was busy I mean which is code for no uh you weren't serious about that Adam's gotta know I know I know I don't I hope he's not mad I know he's busy he just got the job uh another job at the post I mean Adam's got 15 different things going on now he does what at the New York Post yeah I think he's doing some podcast or something on their YouTube channel. I think all, yeah, exactly. How many jobs does he have? I mean, shine on sports. Now it makes sense that he didn't have time for me. Wait, so he's doing that, the CBS shit and SiriusXM? I believe so, yeah, SiriusXM. He's doing something with a post. I'm pretty sure their YouTube channel. I don't know if it's just New York or California as well because they just started the California post. And then, yeah, all the CBS stuff, which I think that was seasonal, right? During football season. And he's still doing all that. Yeah. So, yeah. So anyway, Doggy was up to it again. He was at it again on his radio show. Taylor, which sound are you going to play here first? Because I know there are two pieces of sound here. What are we going with first? We're going to go to Mad Dog trying to say the halftime performer's name, Bad Bunny. He botched this? Shooting up along in a game. And that game was, again, unless you bet all sorts of props, read Chris Russo. I don't know how you stuck with it. And I am not talking about Bugs Bunny at the half either, as I could care less, whatever his name is. Bugs Bunny. Billy Wabbit Whatever his name is I love him Can I hear that again Of course. You did not belong in a game. And that game was, again, unless you bet all sorts of props, read Chris Russo. I don't know how you stuck with it. And I am not talking about Bugs Bunny at the half either. Because I could kill us, whatever his name is. I can see the dismissive hand wave, as he said. By the way, it reminds me, Doggy Ozzos, two guests. And speaking of prop bets, when I went on his show Friday, he was irate. So I did the regular season picks with Dog Sal, and I crushed him. And then we went to the postseason. And he has this weird point system where you go 60, 50, 40, 30. The entire game changes when you get to the postseason. All of a sudden, we're playing a different sport. You have a 60, a 50, a 40, a 30, a 20, and a 10. And my 10-point selection, because I was doing it in the third time zone in three days, four planes, three days. I'm in a hotel room in Boston. I'm trying to get to my daughter's game, Northwestern at Boston College. I have it written down on a napkin, the picks. I wrote down five instead of six. I needed a six pick, and I went heads on the coin toss. And it came in. When you're hot, you're hot. so nance we want jim nance he can't get us howard stern uh he has told me that uh so i am asking i think unless you guys come up with someone different sal would actually know best who's in dogs rolodex okay good question certainly no better who would know this colin should we get colin russo on about who's in dogs rolodex so so i i feel like what we're doing here is we're not aiming high enough christopher mad dog russo has been doing this at the highest level for three or four decades now how about letterman wow is he tight with letterman i wouldn't say tight but i know that letterman's had him on the show many times i was there once back behind you know back studio whatever with me doggy eddie erickson yeah we was the guests on letterman eddie also booked letterman to come on during one of dogs anniversaries there so you're gonna shoot like for me that's that's like the pinnacle as good as it gets and speaking of yeah no no hold on let's sort this out before we get to the next mad dog sound uh speaking of eddie if you were in dog's line of fire when he was on stage with us radio rose super bowl week and eddie was uh man were you gonna get crushed he told us that he took eddie erickson out for dinner and taking eddie out just him and eddie is like taking seven people out because he's fat he was like i'm like hey that's your fucking producer dude yeah he's been i mean that's been going on for 20 years though him ripping on eddie like that but that did go a little over the top talking about how he doesn't have any you can't get to the muscle that he pulled in his calf because it's buried by fat i mean right i was telling this story and he said he tore a calf muscle walking uphill and i could see that happening actually uh walking uphill in san francisco and dog said yeah but the doctors can't get to it it's surrounded by too much fat polka man loves the chicken soup oh man my god so good wait it's a letter minute so i feel like i did this too quickly jim nance i mean you could get nance on your own that's i have nance's number That's a wasted bullet right there. Come on. All right. So how about Chalamet? You could probably get Chalamet, right? Me? I would think so. Yeah. He did. Right. They had that thing going on where first take, I guess, hooked him up where he got to go fly across seas and see the movie or whatever. Yeah. That's a fantastic name. What the hell are you going to ask Timothy? I don't know. Nick's basketball. We just talked Nick's basketball. We'll talk Nick's. We'll talk Nick's. No, but I feel like. Right. I feel like what. I don't want to jump the gun here. And so because I've been doing this for a while, I have a ridiculous amount of contacts in my phone. Mikey, just working at ESPN, has a ridiculous amount of contacts on his phone. Taylor, not yet. We're getting there, though. But Doggy has been doing this way too long at the highest of levels where I don't think we should just settle for Jim Nance and Tony Romo. I think Sal is on to something with Letterman. I think that's like, we need to get someone who can infiltrate that phone. I tried to, and he told me to take my hands off of his phone, but I tried to get in there and go through the contact list. But I think I know a person who can get in there. It's not Eddie. I think it's his son, Colin Russo. That's who I think. Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. And I think he's looked through it before. I mean, of course, of course he has. Although who knows what doggy, I mean, it could be weird, you know, Not exactly a normal family sitting around the dinner table passing around the phone number. Oh, how was your day today? Well, Doggy, who knows? Was Colin one of the kids that he tried to drown years ago in his bathtub or electrocute? We're going to have Sid Luckman's grandson on. I mean... Yeah, exactly. Nice meta. If there's anybody you want from the 60s or 70s, you can get him through Dog. Oh, no doubt. Yes, Drysdale. so this just made me think of something i'm i'm always fascinated with this part of town booking maybe the most confused i've ever been with town booking was when i was listening to wfan and bt and sal had sydney sweeney on yes yeah i know puka nukua take notes bro because i was on the phone more with sydney sweeney than you ever will be uh no so he was you know i think he wants to get with sydney sweeney that's why he got his new haircut it just randomly happened that's how these things happen some company reached out to we get these spam emails so i was paying attention to them never knowing if you find a diamond in the rough i put my producer onto it boom they say hey sydney sweetie might be available i was like yeah i mean might as well put her on i don't know what the hell i'm gonna talk to her about but she's sydney sweetie so and that ended up happening i don't know who this person is come on she's an a-list actress you you really don't know who Sidney Sweeney is? Yeah, listen, man. You get older. She's not an A-list actress. That is. I'm just saying, you get older, you go different time zones, you know, you go back into radio. I don't have time for fucking movies, Sal. I mean, come on. At all? You don't watch any movies? I haven't watched a movie in a long time, man. Just tennis and golf? I mean, is that all we're doing? Yeah. Yes. And the occasional football game. Hawaii. I knew baseball's out. We get that. The NBA stinks. Everybody's going to agree there. Right. All right, the Aussie Open, whatever you want to get into that. But a movie, binging on a show? I mean, yeah. I mean, shows, shows, yes. Movies, not so much. Now, I do want to specify, I am not familiar with Sidney Sweeney's work or wasn't prior to this interview. But she's not famous, really, for her work. She's famous, you know, for other things. Yeah, exactly. Well, name one. Well, name two. name too yeah that's really thank you sal now i have to look this sid sweeney up you you'll know what we you'll know she's an a-list name to sal's point though she is not a good actress sure not she's like a c-list actress probably but but she's an yeah she's an a-list name because she's you know attractive ah i see okay thank you so it's too it took you do you need me to spell it out i mean i spelled it wrong because when you when i go to google and you you start typing in sweeney what comes up is sweeney murty dog could definitely help you with that and when you start typing up sid sid rosenberg comes up google knows me i mean stu gots here want to know why betting the winter games on fanduel makes sense From game lines to medal counts to finding your angle on the events you care about most, FanDuel gives you more ways to stay connected to the action. The winter games are on, and there's no better way to follow them than with a bet on FanDuel. 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We have the second sound from Dog where he's coming back from a break, and he is just ready to reach back, throw a 103-mile-per-hour fastball, and talk about some load management in the NBA. Oh, I can't wait. I'm supposed to sit there now, and I'm supposed to take this league seriously when I see this nonsense. And I know you got the innings pitch situation with pitchers, and that drives me crazy too. but we all know how fragile these pitchers are and so why should Skeens pitch 300 innings? I understand that. And the Pirates are trying to get better for a better day and it can't happen with Tommy John. I don't like it, but there's at least an injury threat. This is a 21-year-old kid with the Wizards and Jackson decided to sit out, goddammit! Hit it, Bruce! Well, I believe in the love that you gave me. I believe in the fight that can save me. And here it is. I sat here and I gave it a date. November before Thanksgiving in 2017. And I walked in there in the off season and did an hour show with the freaking high heat. Sick as a freaking dog. And then walked in here and did a monologue. And I said, I can't take it. I'm so sick I gotta leave. And I took the train home. And three days later, I was in the freaking Stanford Hospital. And the doctor said, how the hell did you survive this? And then I sat there on a Tuesday night. He sat there and operated on me for three hours to get an appendix out. A ruptured one. Chris Russo. And Jared Jackson can't play in the fourth quarter in a game in February making $50 million a year. I mean, this is my, this is absurd. And Springsteen, in 80 years of age, playing three and a half hours every freaking night. My goodness, what has the world come to this garbage? Garbage! You should be ashamed, NBA. Ashamed. You got that? Cousy. Dolph Shea. He's right. My face hurts from that. I mean, tell me that's not one of the great radio segments. No, we were wrong. He is not the most entertaining man in the history of sports radio. He's just the most entertaining man in the history of the world. Dog, you doing a show with appendicitis? that is the Jordan flu game right there. Jordan getting through an hour show, taking the train. That's his Jordan flu game right there. I put that up against Michael. So you think dog thinks to himself, yeah, you know, Jordan has his game and I had my moment. I had my show. I'm not certain which is bigger. I have to be honest. Like if Jordan had surgery the night before, you think he's playing in that game? I mean, geez. Right. Also, he's talking about Jaron Jackson making his 50 million. It's not like dogs making pennies doing what he's doing either. Yeah, but to dog's credit, he shows up to work. That's his point, you know? You know, and Bruce is still banging, you know, shows out, three and a half hour shows when he's 80. I love this new thing he does where he says, I'm Chris Russo. He did it to me. He's like, you don't care about your daughter's lacrosse team. I go, how can you say that to me? He goes, I can. I'm Chris Russo. Break this out. And he was right. I had no rebuttal. When I'm listening to that clip, the Bruce Springsteen music is so distracting to start. Yes. But I become, I go a 180 on it where I start buying in when the music just starts playing and he just goes, hit it, Bruce! Oh, it's the greatest. It might be the greatest. It's, listen, that's Jordan's shot against the jazz. I mean, it is. Where he pushed off on Russell. I'm not even a Bruce fan, but I like the music right there. I thought that whole thing was just, freaking incredible well and he knew it because he knew he was at the part of the song he could hear in his headsets and he's like this is a good part to dismount and i'll come back in a minute after the verse is over right good for the board not paying attention sometimes they're asleep on alan he hit it perfectly it was yes this is a master class in uh sports radio teller i want you to play it again we don't have to play the whole thing but just a fucking master class in radio and how to be entertaining and knowing when to talk and knowing when to shut up for a second Why? Because he's the greatest to ever fucking do this. And I'm supposed to sit there now, and I'm supposed to take this league seriously when I see this nonsense? And I know you got the innings pitch situation with pitchers, and that drives me crazy too. But we all know how fragile these pitchers are, and so why should Skeens pitch 300 innings? I understand that. And the Pirates are trying to get better for a better day, and you can't have them with Tommy John. I don't like it, but there's at least an injury threat. This is 21 year old kid with the wizards and Jackson decided to sit out. God damn it. Hit it Bruce. Yeah. If you were given the options out of listening to born to run or doggy version of born to run which one would you go with i want that intro every single time doggy all day the one question i would have is was that coming back from a break like he's just 115 miles an hour back from a break or going into the break it's not the middle the segment that they'd be playing the music like that so it worked out perfectly but he is just i mean he is firing the fastball as taylor said right out of the gate or right into a break which is even more incredible yes it was almost like he was arguing with somebody in the break and then they said here we go coming back and he just was going to keep going yes right yeah but it took him a while to wind up like it wasn't until he said jackson's name uh that he got very very aggravated He was calm, and then he just – the idea of a man sitting out the fourth quarter who was making $50 million a year, once he got to that stage of the argument, he really cranked up his game. And he let you know he was really angry. That's what Doggy does when he drops the goddammit. Goddammit! Like, that's his FU. Everybody else drops curses nowadays. Doggy, that's his, like, wow, whoa. Doggy really let loose with the GD right there. throw him out of the lake and bruce's 80 three and a half hour shows taylor did he screw up your name when he met you uh tala vippin uh nice to meet you what did he call you no so i went up to him when he was finishing his uh his serious show and i just said hey chris uh my name's taylor i'm stu gotts producer and then once i said stu gots his name he brought me in for a hug and yeah never never even really try to say my last name which i wouldn't expect him to we should have him try it yeah 100 you gotta do it yes i guarantee mikey's it's tyler oh god he'll screw it up it's tyler and some kind of butchering of the last name he got bad bunny wrong i mean yeah bug's buddy salavetta i'll never forget that that's the Initiation. You meet Sal Levera. You meet Doggy for the first time he says your name. That's the initiation. Yes. Stuart Gotts is very easy for him. He likes my name. Yes. I think he thinks that's your actual name, by the way. No. Well, I don't know. You never know with him. It's just, you know. Stuart Gotts. Well, Covino and Rich thought that, too. Well, I thought their names were Rich Covino. Rich Covino and his co-host. The Rich Kavino show. I was going to get mad at Kavino and Rich because I was listening to that clip and they're talking about how much they love our show, the guys on our show. They're like, Mike Yeh's great. Izzy's great from his time with the NBA on ESPN. Of course, Stu Gatz. And then Rich was like, and the other one that I talked to a lot there, I'm blanking on his name and I'm listening to him. I'm like, this guy doesn't remember my name. This is unbelievable. And he apologized for not remembering my name. And as I'm getting mad, his producer chimes in. He goes, to be fair, Taylor did say he couldn't tell the difference between Covino and Rich. I was like, yeah, good point. They legit did feel bad. I was listening. They legit felt bad. And I was like, how do you not know Taylor? I mean, come on. And then they explained that. Right. This is all getting to Taylor's head. I mean, now he's getting mad when people don't recognize who he is. He's team Colin now. Jesus Christ. Taylor, are you going to be more known? You should heel turn and go team Colin and support his producer today. You should bring him on and say, listen, you're right. You think Taylor is going to be more known for Taylor or for Matt Collins or UNC? Wow. I mean, the initial impression, I start to associate him with Matt Collins, who has a touchdown in the Super Bowl, UNC, your love for them, all that stuff. I mean, you've got to be careful. You don't want to be identified just as being a UNC Matt Collins guy. You want Taylor to cut through. Right. But I think Taylor's going to arrive at a point where people are going to identify Mac Hollins as Taylor's friend. Mac, tell us, when did you meet Taylor, by the way? Mac can't do anything without people thinking about Taylor. It's a great point. When did you meet Vipolis? Finger guns, Vipolis. I really want Dog to come on and try to pronounce both your last names and Gutierrez. I might turn on Covino and Rich still. and tell them it was me who got Mendoza on the herd. It would be a great heel turn. Let's play this out. So you, oh my God, let's do this today. So you're going to turn on them and then I'm going to blast you, right? I have to stay on Covino and Rich's side, right? Yeah. Against my own producer, right? You did what, Taylor? I blasted Colin and his producer and it was you? I still don't get those two. like listening to it in real time it didn't seem like they were thinking you had their side I didn't get like oh it's Kavino and Rich and well Stugatz had our back it felt like they didn't really believe that you had their back and maybe that was because they were sensitive to you not knowing their names or whatever but I wasn't getting the feel that they were really team Stu in this particular case um that's I mean perhaps because I don't do anything that's really serious, really in the way of any sort of serious. But I do protect. I was being serious, by the way. That's a terrible job by Colin. That's Covino and Rich's guest. They're at Radio Row. They're grinding it out. Colin gets all the big guests. He was getting them right in front of our faces. I mean, these guests would come up to our stage. They weren't coming on our show. Justin Jefferson right in front of us. And Christian McCaffrey. I mean, Jesus Christ. and I started to get pissed but I understand the you know I kind of get the deal with radio and I certainly understand that week um these are guys who were grinding it out who deserved to have Mendoza on it fell in their time slot and for someone Colin to take that away from them to me was terrible it was a terrible job by him if Covino and Rich still don't think Stu was serious about it go listen to God bless football with Mike Olick he was serious about it yeah yes yeah I was it It could be my interpretation of it, but when I heard it, no, no, no, no, no. So I know what happened. So on the radio show, it came off a little tongue in cheek, right? Because I am blasting Colin, but at the same time saying I would have done the exact same thing. Yes. Right. And then I'm getting their names wrong and it doesn't feel like support. It feels like me making fun. So I need to apologize to them, but I think what we should do is play the clip from God bless football today. So on the show, Taylor, okay. If you can get that for us, so they can know just how fucking serious I was. All right? I'm listening to it from a Team Stew perspective, even though I know it could be an Owen Richwell. I used to work with those guys back at SMY, and I'm having fun with it. And then there was a part of it that I was like, ooh, this seems – and I didn't talk to you guys about it, so I had no idea. I was like, ooh, maybe this seems a little serious here where Stew said something that rubbed them the wrong way. So I didn't take it as a joking thing. I wasn't sure exactly what was going on. Right. So you ask yourselves, hey, what do we do after football? We go to baseball. to March Madness. Well, this show goes to Mad Dog and Covino and Rich. On June 11th, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing. Hey, if they'll kill a cop and bury them, what are they going to do to me? What really happened to the missing deputy? 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