REWIND: The Podcast

CARL’S A MESS: LEBRON, KANYE WEST, LAMAR, PAM BONDI, TRICK DADDY, & MEMPHIS

63 min
Apr 8, 202611 days ago
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Summary

Blake and Raven discuss celebrity controversies including Pam Bondi's firing, Trick Daddy's inappropriate performance at an AKA conference, LeBron James' Memphis criticism, Kanye West's album release and concert attendance, and the Summer House drama involving Carl, Lindsay, Amanda, and Sierra. They also review documentaries on the manosphere and Lamar Odom's overdose.

Insights
  • Cancel culture is selective and only effective when it alienates an artist's core fanbase; celebrities like Kanye and Morgan Wallen maintain audiences despite controversy by finding new demographic support
  • Friend group loyalty dynamics differ between internal accountability and external defense—close friends will investigate and discuss privately but unite against outside criticism
  • Booking decisions for events should prioritize artist-audience alignment over budget constraints; mismatched performers (like Trick Daddy at a 60+ AKA conference) create reputational damage
  • Reality TV reunion dynamics shift when cast members lack protective alliances; Amanda's isolation at the Summer House reunion will force accountability she previously avoided
  • Documentary subjects who prioritize camera presence over narrative honesty (like Lamar Odom) undermine their own redemption arcs and alienate audiences seeking genuine reflection
Trends
Selective accountability in celebrity culture—public figures face consequences only when core audiences withdraw support, not from external moral pressureFriend group transparency as content—audiences increasingly value authentic friend dynamics over curated narratives in reality TV and podcastsVenue and city branding impact on professional athlete perception—infrastructure and entertainment options now factor into athlete satisfaction and public opinionDocumentary fatigue around non-resolved narratives—audiences expect character arcs and resolution, not just access to private momentsManosphere content as self-parody—documentary exposure reveals performative masculinity collapses under scrutiny, limiting long-term grift viabilityReality TV casting misalignment—producers increasingly struggle to manufacture conflict when cast members prioritize genuine relationships over storylinesInfluencer tour economics—smaller creators now compete with established acts for venue bookings and audience attendance
Topics
Celebrity Controversies and AccountabilityCancel Culture Mechanics and Audience RetentionFriend Group Dynamics and LoyaltyReality TV Production and Casting StrategyDocumentary Narrative Structure and ResolutionManosphere Content and Masculinity PerformanceEvent Booking and Artist-Audience AlignmentSummer House Season Drama and Reunion DynamicsKanye West Album Release and Concert AttendanceLeBron James City Criticism and Sports CommentaryPam Bondi White House FiringTrick Daddy Performance ControversyLamar Odom Overdose DocumentaryTour Planning and Venue SelectionPerformer Rider Requirements and Logistics
Companies
Bravo
Network producing Summer House; hosts reunion filming for cast drama involving Carl, Lindsay, Amanda, and Sierra
Netflix
Referenced as platform for documentary content; hosts manosphere documentary discussed in episode
Uber Eats
Carl and Lindsay featured in commercial campaign while Summer House drama unfolds; discussed as monetization strategy
Target
Discussed as retailer hosts visited despite past controversies; used as example of selective consumer accountability
Chick-fil-A
Referenced as example of brand with controversial history that consumers still patronize despite stated values
Zara
Fashion retailer where Raven purchased vintage glasses; mentioned in casual conversation about shopping
Threadless
E-commerce platform hosting Rewind podcast merchandise sales at rewindthepod.threadless.com
People
Pam Bondi
Fired from position in less than 24 hours after allegedly begging Donald Trump to keep her job
Donald Trump
Fired Pam Bondi from Attorney General position; discussed in context of administration turnover
Trick Daddy
Hired to perform at Alpha Kappa Alpha conference for 60+ audience; performed inappropriate content causing attendees ...
LeBron James
Criticized Memphis and Milwaukee as least favorite places to play; suggested moving Memphis Grizzlies to Nashville
Kanye West
Released 12th studio album 'Bully' on March 27, 2026; concert featured Chloe Bailey and Lauryn Hill despite past cont...
Chloe Bailey
Attended Kanye West concert and faced criticism for supporting artist with controversial history
Lauryn Hill
Surprise performer at Kanye West concert; discussed as unexpected guest appearance
Carl Radke
Central to Summer House drama; married to Amanda; featured in Uber Eats commercial with Lindsay
Lindsay Hubbard
Defended by hosts for standing up to Amanda; featured in Uber Eats commercial with Carl; clarified reunion date is no...
Amanda Batula
Facing isolation at reunion after 10 seasons with protective alliances; accused of infidelity; lacks support from co-...
Sierra Ferrell
Discovered infidelity involving Carl; supported by friend group; discussed as victim in drama; not publicly discussin...
Lamar Odom
Subject of documentary about overdose; discussed as con artist who disrespected Khloe Kardashian despite her care dur...
Khloe Kardashian
Cared for Lamar Odom during overdose recovery; disrespected in his documentary despite her support
Zara Larsson
Attended concert by hosts; discussed as emerging pop artist with strong vocals; reboot album coming in May
Morgan Wallen
Referenced as example of artist who faced controversy but maintained audience; performed sold-out show at Pinnacle
Zendaya
Starred in recent film with Robert Pattinson; hosts planning to discuss film in future episode after audience viewing
Robert Pattinson
Starred opposite Zendaya in recent film; hosts noted strong acting performances from both leads
Blake Rackley
Co-host discussing celebrity news and reality TV drama; called on stage at Bald Brothers tour in Nashville
Raven Dawson
Co-host discussing celebrity news and reality TV drama; attended Zara Larsson concert
Gabe Bryant
Producer of Rewind the Podcast; attended birthday dinner and various events with hosts
Quotes
"Cancel culture is only a real thing when it's the people who actually followed you in the first place. So like you're losing your own people."
Raven DawsonMid-episode
"If you are having to beg a man for anything, stand up. I'm not about to beg. Especially Donald Trump."
Raven DawsonPam Bondi discussion
"They're little bitch babies. And then that one guy the first one he interviews where he's like oh like here's this video of me getting head last night from somebody he like kind of gets wind that he might be doing a hit piece on him and then he just disappears."
Blake RackleyManosphere documentary discussion
"We're more loyal to the information than we are with each other when it comes to the handlers."
Raven DawsonFriend group dynamics discussion
"You can't talk about my sister but I can call her a bitch. That's how friendship works."
Raven DawsonFriend loyalty discussion
Full Transcript
Welcome to Rewind the Podcast. What up, everybody? And welcome back to another episode of Rewind the Podcast. I lost the lens. Oh, no, they're going to think we're Illuminati if I do that. Yeah. First of all, that is scary because one of y'all asses moving a lot and I can't see the other way and you look like an alien. If both of the lenses are here, are these glasses kind of chic? I wore them to Zara Larson the other day. I mean, they're not not chic, but they're... I bet they would look cute on you. You need the lens. I need the lens, but I lost it at play. It's giving like zoom, zoom, zoom. It is. Wait, let me look at myself. The missing lens is scary. It's giving like one-eyed monster. It is. Wait, this actually kind of would be cute. It's kind of a cute loop. You want them? Nope. I got these at a vintage store that I might start working at. And I was like, well, you know. Oh, my God. But yes, I went to Zara Larsson. Oh, hi, everyone. Welcome back to Rewind the Podcast. I'm Blake. I'm Raven. Say hi to producer Gabe. Hello. I was going to say, also, sometimes I say my name's Raisin. But that's not on my birth certificate. I, well, good. Yeah. Yeah. People get confused. I've seen a few comments where they're like, did she just call herself Raisin? I guess I did. And I, sometimes I'm Raisin. I will say, not to make this about me, but I posted that video of your birthday, of us singing birthday, birthday, birthday, Raven, birthday. And it got over a million views on my Instagram and my Facebook. That is so crazy. Not Facebook having the views. And people commented that little girl who was like, happy birthday, Raven. I can't swim. I know. But some people in the comments, they wouldn't comment the gif. And they would say, LOL, can Raven swim? and some of these white people, like the people who were offering Pepsi at the protest in 2020, they were like, how dare you say that about a black woman that is a horrible stereotype? And someone was like, it's a gift. And I was just like, I'm just going to scroll. No, honestly, it's my least favorite tradition, but it is so, I honestly don't even know if I clocked that you were filming. I'm sleek. But it was so funny. We've had a big social media week. We have. also y'all we're amongst the star we're amongst the stars mr no we're amongst the star you're the star oh see that's how you know i'm humble because i was not about to talk about me or my youtube channel oh my god so blake as we all know if you've been listening to us for a while we're huge um here's the thing bald brothers kev on stage tony baker angel uh i'm not a lawyer but Josh, you got everybody. Miss Kev on stage. We're huge fans. And Blake was called on stage at the Bald Brothers tour. In Nashville. In Nashville. And the clip came out today. First of all, Kevin's not like communicating with them. So I'm in bed, scrolling, looking at pictures, you know. And I see Kev wants to collaborate with you on a thing. And I'm like, oh, God. Well, I texted you because I'm in the Patreon. Yes. But I am too now. Oh, you paid your fucking love fast. Yeah, I'm back in it. The getting's good. So I texted the group and I was like, oh my God. Because we saw the first round of the Ball Brothers Tour come out. We were like, oh man, they aren't doing Nashville. When I saw that clip, I was like, oh my, it's happening. And I was like, what? And she was like, you're famous. That's all you need to know. I was like, I texted her. I was like, I've been up for 20 seconds. I was so excited. And then the clip came out today and everyone, I've literally, everyone's been texting me like, he's so funny. I'm like, he is a star. I've been trying to tell everyone. I, well, yeah, kind of. I, I mean, yeah, I'm like a star. I mean, you know, until I try to sing. No. Yeah. Happy times. Happy nights. You are so good on stage. And that's like, so your element. I, y'all didn't see me. Cause I was on the side standing up and hollering. I'm still, My throat still sore from hollering and jumping up and down. It was the best. So now y'all can actually see what we were talking about. I think it's funny that Raven says she's not. I don't know if you actually said you're not good on stage. But you make it sound like because I am, like you're not. But when we go live, when we take this thing on the road, pack up these walls and these lights and head out to a city near you, we don't know what that is yet. She's going to be a lot of fun. I'm okay. I'm fun on stage. No, I think it's like you're not going to get up and like do the with love dance like me. no shade not that i know i'm taking but like you you have a present that's make people go like this oh and you know i kind of have to like wail around i'm here too it's my breath it's your breath no it's your round face because people trust exactly yeah no that is y'all i have a theory i don't know if i've told y'all this my face is like really round it is a circle been that way since 91 people tell me things the people will stop me and tell me their deepest darkest secrets and i genuinely think it's because my face is round and it makes people trust me and they think like oh it's like a circle i can't it's like the whole of yeah i think it's like trusting i also have a whole of trust sorry that was really sorry to everybody who's come here from the camp on stage that was really good i'm sorry clean it up no don't because this is what y'all gonna get oh yeah foolery you last week i was shirtless in overalls and this week i'm shirtless in a little cardigan and it's already hot it is hot in here so yeah so let's get started Let's get started. Wait, hold on. No, I don't want to do that. I saw Zara Larson. It was really cool. You know, people say she's not white Beyonce. That's not what they're saying. That's crazy. Who said that? Like the internet. White threads. Yeah, exactly. See, that's why I get over the other side. But her vocals are so good, and she lists Beyonce as, like, her top. But I feel personally like she does pop music really well without having to steal. I do, too. And I don't know this lady. Yeah. I know. Another melody Then I saw That's all I know. Yeah. Sorry if I hollered in your ear. But what I do know, I love. But I need to get into the vibes. You do. I feel like it's going to be a couple years ago we had the Chapel Sabrina Charlie summer. I feel like it's going to be a Zara summer. And I feel like we're going to have a never ending. Because her rebumped album is coming out in May. What's the reboot? Like, she did Midnight Sun. Now it's going to be like Midnight Sun for real kind of thing. So I think it's going to be good. Okay. And I don't think she's going to play in your face. Oh, my gosh. Okay, I'm excited. Zara, girl, I'm going to check you out, sis. Yes. Check out Eurosummer, Hot and Sexy. She does a feature with Tiffany Pollard on that one. Shut up. Beautiful, black, hot, and sexy. That's what you said about us. Yes, yes, yes, because they had birthdays. Also, we had birthday dinners. Did you all enjoy them? Oh, my gosh. I ate so much food. It was amazing. For my birthday dinner, we went to Cafe Nona. Nona. I will say I had this. Y'all don't care. Seafood bruschetta. Bruschetta. Bomb. The lasagna. Bomb. My cocktails. I'm a dirty gin martini girl. Amazing. The bread service I paid $4 for. Happy birthday to me. Gabe, where we got for you, Erie? 21st. We had the girl dinner tower. It was like a Caesar salad and then truffle fries. And then I love a filthy dirty vodka martini because we're twins. And it was great. And then we went to street car. Yeah, they're not so great. I want to say this, though. The vibes were great. The vibes were great. Put that one person on blast. Yeah, first off. We're going to start using our account for all things. No, wait. I'm going to tell y'all at the end if we're going to use this. Go ahead. Don't cross me any day of the week, but definitely not on my birthday. we walk in and I was like oh there's a table outside I was like can we have that will that be a problem and she literally was like yeah that will be a problem that's why I told you I'd sit you back here you better glad I was late yeah also we said sis you don't even know you're in danger literally you in danger girl Molly you in danger girl cause Gabe will pop off in a minute and luckily he had had muffins that morning he'd gone to like four bookstores He saw a new comic book store. I was with him for most of it. And yeah. Yeah. Literally, if Ellen would not have walked in behind me, it would have been a whole different scene. Yeah. Well, but other than that, the drinks were good when I was there. Yeah. It was fun. And I liked the outside vibe. And our waiter was great. I don't remember his name. He looked like Wes Wilson. He did. But do anybody remember his name? Shout out. Shout out to Paul. No, he was cute. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's really get started. Yeah. How about we transition into the first topic? Like, Pim Bondi was transferred out of the White House. I have a question I don't know who Pam Bondi is Pam Bondi is our attorney general she was the one yeah she was the one who recently got the heat put on her she was in that investigation we are not CNN we're not she did like something attorney general like broke some privacy laws or something I think I know who that yeah the attorney general And she got fired in less than 24 hours. Allegedly. Allegedly. In the meeting that led up to her firing, she was begging Donald Trump not to fire her. We can work this out. We can work this out kind of thing. And Donald was like, yeah, no, you're fired. And then less than 24 hours after she got let go, her photo was already in a wastebasket, like the little photo they put up. Chunked into the thing. First of all. Very traitors. Girl, if you are having to beg a man for anything, stand up. and not in the Harriet Tubman way. First of all, fire me. Like, I'm not about to beg. I'm sorry. I'm not about to beg. Especially Donald Trump. Yeah. Do you know what it feels like, though, when somebody from this administration gets fired? It feels like a treehouse club, and they're like, you can't play up here anymore, and nobody truly wants to lose their job because they love what they do. They don't want to lose access to the treehouse. You know, they're like, I want to go to Mar-a-Lago and be in all these things and maybe go into the bunker if s*** gets wild. It has nothing to do with I want to serve my country. I want to serve myself. Well, bye. Bye, Pam Bondi. Let me tell you who hates Pam Bondi. I got her and the man wife mixed up. I was like, not her losing her job and her husband with the titties. But she didn't lose her job, too. She lost her job. She got moved around. She got shuffled around. I don't know what she's doing. But you know what I also heard about that? apparently christy gnome allegedly from like the day she was married to him was cheating on him some some political person i saw a whole tiktok on it like basically since they got married and popped out a couple of kids she's been cheating with this one man who was like running for governor allegedly allegedly allegedly and so no wonder brian was like well you know what i'm gonna go to the local hustler and get some tits and get some jugs i'm so happy for him i know have Have we heard from Brian? No, but I heard on, allegedly again, on like Wall Street Journal or something. It was an open secret in DC that he liked to, I know, I know. Okay, DC girlies, political girlies. If you have any tea, tell us. I used to sexy text with this one guy who was in DC. I want to see if he can give me some tea. Yeah, good idea, good idea. Show him a little nip. Show him a little nip. I'll show you the naturals, the big juicy naturals right here. I didn't need no breastplate. Okay, moving on along. Speaking of someone else that was cut a little short, Trick Daddy, his performance. Okay, y'all. Okay. A.K.A. So the A.K.A.'s had their little meeting. What's it? Alpha Kappa Alpha? Mm-hmm. They are the girls in pink and green. They got their pearls on. They was clutching their pearls. Oh, it's a... Respectfully, it's a sorority. It's a sorority. Are these the girls in Take That that are Alpha something? You know? nope that was bad I don't think they were doing yeah they probably were what's that called yeah and they do like a yeah one thing Gabe's gonna know is he's gonna know follow the drinking board stand up in the alpha kappa alpha these women are very put together most women in the divine nine are very put together but they are the girly girls with the pearls and they asked Trick Daddy to be the performer at their conference. Now, the age group, allegedly, was like 60 plus. Allegedly, they sat down with Mr. Trick and said, keep it cute for the people. He walked in and said, who popping up in here? Me and Ranjit. Literally. Literally, people started walking out. I have two questions. Why would y'all ask Trick Daddy? I want to know what the booking fee was, because then I want to compare it to who you could have got. No shame. That's what I'm saying. Because you can only edit Trick Daddy so much. So much. Okay. I'm going to give a list of people who you should have probably tried to get. Okay. They might be out of our price range. But we'll see. We'll see. India Arie. Okay. Jill Scott. Jill Scott. Yes, makes music for big areola titties. Exactly. Lauren Hill, she might not have shown up. No, she was at Ye's. She was at Ye's. Like any neo-soul tank, he's a great performer. Why? Do you think they could have done Patti LaBelle or she out of the price range? I don't know. She just performed at the Ryman. I don't know if they can afford any of the people I just said, let alone, because I don't know what Mr. Trick is asking for. It says on the internet, it's rumored that it's $15,000. They pay Trick Daddy $15,000? Girl, private appearance fees are... Well, the other one says $2,500 and some lemon pepper wings. That feels racist. That feels racist. That feels... Feels racist. It's racist. It does. It does. That's what you need to book me? $2,500. I don't... Oh, yeah. By the way, $2,500 and lemon pepper wings. Me and Rachel. Rewind on tour. I like lemon pepper wet, though. I don't like dry rub lemon pepper. Oh, no, I love a dry rub. So a little bit. I'm sorry. I don't want to pull us off the topic. When we do travel, do you know what a rider is? Yes. What's on your rider? Top three. You will not go on if it's not on there. Top three. La Croix. Okay. Certain flavor? No. You can be specific. I can just live my life. Campbell Moose. Ooh. I need a food. Because a lot of the times you get off the bus, the plane, whatever we're going to be on and you don't eat. I kind of want, because I'm going on stage, like a turkey wrap, like turkey, cheese, lettuce, tomato, ranch wrap with some barbecue baked glaze. That's not, that's two. That's two together. And then reposado, tequila. Oh, yes, for after the show or for before. Before, during, and after. What about you? Carrots and ranch. That's one. I gonna include like a Caesar salad truffle fries as one and then like a dirty martini Yeah I think mine for I very specific about water I a little bougie I either want Saratoga still in the glass bottle not the plastic bottle, or Aquafina. So I can go from the mountain to the valley real quick. I want fruitches, fruitches, fruit, Welch's, Welch's fruit. Wow. The little snacks. Okay. And then I want just some kind of like meat and vegetable board. Like a jacouterie? Yeah. And I know I said we can only do three. A charger. Because people always need a charger. They can provide the charger. I got you on the charger. No, no, no. You'd be surprised when you're on the road. As someone who's on the road, chargers are hard to find. I have a thousand chargers. And where are they? Because you're always asking me for one. I have the... Back to Trick Dad. No, real quick. When my job, our annual conference, they gave us a portable charger with both the outlets. Amazing gift. I won't tell y'all where I work. Don't give me a water bottle. No, it is. All of us use them all the time. I keep it in my purse. Oh, yeah. Back to Trick Daddy. He shouldn't have been in there. He shouldn't have been in there. We could have gotten anybody else. You could have hired Rewind. 100%. You could have hired B2K. You could have. Well, maybe not 60+. Genuine. Genuine. I don't know if you could have hired. He would have sang Pony, but like. Yeah, but can you bump and grind with 60s on your old ladies? Yeah. I mean, yeah, my mama's 60. But see, the difference between Trick Daddy and Genuine is everybody loves Pony. That's true. And he doesn't have to say if you're horny, let's do it. He'd be like, if you're, you know, AKA, let's do it. I liked it. Swerve it. I don't know. Okay. So, Trick Daddy got kicked out. People left. If there was anybody there. Please comment. Please tell us what the vibes were. Yes. I just know in our crew, there is somebody who was there or somebody who knows somebody who was there. So, give us the tea in the comments. And my thing is, when they walked out, are they cussing somebody out? Are they just leaving? I think they were like clutching our pearls were leaving. Clutching the pearls were leaving. Yeah. Also, no shade. If it's the Pearl Society, when they have more than $25,000? Oh, $15,000. No, they have money over there. I know. So why not get like... I don't know. I have questions. I need to know who's over booking Townland. I need to know who put Trick Daddy name in a Townland hat. New video series for Blake and Raven. we get the trench coats and the top hats like Mary-Kate and Ashley. Blake and Raven solve a mystery. No, we have to. We have to solve mysteries. No, that's amazing. Or just get in everybody's business. Blake and Raven get in everybody's business. New series, launch. Gabe, write it down. I feel like that's a series we already in. That's our weekly podcast. I've been talking about people we don't know nothing about. Nothing about. And then people are like, actually? And we're like, girl, we don't know. When people try to fact check us, I be like, girl, we don't know. My favorite thing is when they try to fact check us, on fact check off I've been spending a lot of time in London on stuff no shade I don't care to be fact check on we're like what's this person's last name we're like what was actually happening or what happened at this thing let us know we'll be like girl everybody knows like Sierra loves like Doritos chips and we're like actually she's exclusive to Raffles and it's like so you know nothing either no shade we will ask because we're big on like y'all tell us who it be people be in the comments like actually actually I'm like thank you. Yeah. So bitches love y'all. Yeah. Okay. Moving on along. Moving on down the cancel train. Did you hear about LeBron James? Okay. So have you heard about LeBron? No. And I know we're supposed to talk about Lamar Odom later but I was like that was the wrong person. Actually. Actually. My bad. So LeBron James. LeBron James. LeBron James. Someone asked LeBron his least favorite places to play or something like that. I don't know. Allegedly. And he said Memphis and Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Okay. Milwaukee Blues? No. Is Milwaukee in Minnesota? Yeah. Okay. Those are the – I don't know. Minnesota Blues and Memphis – Grizzlies. Grizzlies. I almost said the Tigers. The internet was up in arms. Up in arms. Because they said how – It's in Wisconsin. Milwaukee. What am I thinking of? Maybe he said Minnesota. Minneapolis. Minneapolis. He said one of them white people states. It's Milwaukee. Okay. Milwaukee. Everybody was up in arms because how dare you say you don't like the blacks? How dare you say you don't like playing with the blacks? LeBron, this is, okay. I am a LeBron girl. Stand down. Stand down. Listen, a huge Kobe fan. I always loved Kobe. I'm a little too young for Michael Jordan. My dad and I have this debate often. LeBron for me is like the, our era of like the best of the best, but he's also a family guy and really kind and like has a great personality and never gets in trouble. So I tend to defend LeBron often. Can I be honest? Yeah. We don't keep it a buck. Keep it a buck. Spoiler alert. I don't know. When we were discussing places to do Blake and Raven. Oh, so you're going to keep it a buck and throw me under the bus. Correct. Oh, okay. But me too. I was like, what about Memphis? And collectively, I went, no shade to Memphis. But like, if I'm traveling somewhere. Give it a little more context too. We were deciding between Memphis and Atlanta. And I was like, I would rather go to Atlanta. There's more to do. And Memphis, the people who live in Memphis, y'all love Memphis. and you should. I enjoy Memphis. I've been a few times. But that's just not like where you – if you had to pick – because he was saying they should move the team to Nashville. What team? The Memphis basketball team. Oh, so the Nashville Grizzlies? Like they would – yeah, they would – because, you know, sometimes teams will move from city to city. Oh, yeah, we don't have a basketball team. No. No, he was saying it would make so much more sense in Nashville. Like there's more to do. There's more people. Like infrastructure is better for like professional teams, which I don't think is a crazy thing. No, I will say, and I don't even think this is from a LeBron stance. Like I do think with the growth of Nashville, there can be some erasure with Memphis. I agree. But, and not to sound like the white person on nextdoor.com. Is that what it's called? I have no idea what you're talking about. It's the app where like everybody's like, I saw a fox in my front yard. Anybody see it? Oh, that's how my ring camera stuff be. What's it called? Because you know next door. Is that porn? I was like, wait, what's it called? It's like, it's like. You nasty. No, I'm not. Yes, you is. I didn't even know. So there's like a website where you can do that where I don't want to sound like that person where it's like, you know, there's a lot of crime in this neighborhood. But like, it seems like Memphis does have a lot of crime. It's crime over here too, though. It be crime. Someone got their, their thing stolen the other day. When I pulled up, no shade. It was a bunch of police outside. And then somebody. We in the hood. Somebody's lives were taken by a hit and run last night. Down over here? Not over here, but on Lafayette Street. What is it? Why are you saying that like it's close? Like that was going to mean something? Because I think it is. I just don't know where. I don't know what it said. Lafayette? We don't know if it's close to here or not, because when you tell people we hit. Yeah, yeah. We're in Franklin. But yeah, I just thought that the criticism was kind of crazy. like I he also said Milwaukee ain't nothing but white people there I think he was saying like I want better restaurants like a nicer hotel I'll say this as someone who's been on tour we went to Green Bay and Green Bay was lovely is Green Bay a city yeah it's it's it's where the Green Bay Packers are yeah but I didn't think that was is that not like no it's like a city I didn't know. Next to the water. I thought Green Bay was like. Like a neighborhood? No, like a collection of cities. Oh, no. They're like, oh, like I'm going to the Green Bay. No, no, no. It's Green Bay, Wisconsin. We went up there. It was perfectly lovely. It was perfectly fine. I was like, where's this big stadium? And I was like, so people just travel here for football season? They're like, oh, in droves. Yeah. But nothing was open. Our show got done at 1045. We went over to a restaurant and they were like, we're already closing. Everything was closed except for one random chicken place. And that's the thing. When you're in these bigger cities with like more to do and like easier to get an Uber, like I can see as an athlete or as a person who's traveling on tour, why you would want to go to Nashville over in Memphis. It always got to be so deep. Yeah. Also, yeah, I guess, too, it's like, why does when somebody say, like, I don't like Memphis, it goes to the absolute core? Now, I don't want to sound ignorant. No, I think it's because Memphis people love Memphis, which they should. But I also think Memphis gets a bad rap for the crime, as if there's not crime everywhere. I grew up in Birmingham, Alabama. We was on First Foot Eight. And you know that's crime. Oh, Natalie Holloway. Yeah, but she got got overseas. I know, but she was from... It doesn't matter. Well, let's talk... Okay, if we were to do Blake and Raven in Memphis, we could go to the Peabody Hotel and see the ducks. We could go to Beale Street. That's what I was going to say. Did somebody get shot? When Martin Luther King... Can't you go to where he got shot at? Is that Memphis? Memphis. Mm-hmm. The Martin Luther King assassination site. We could go to Graceland. Graceland. Is it Graceland? Graceland. I say Graceland. Where's your country? We could go to the Bass Pro Shop in that pyramid. See? It's a lot to do. We could go to Ikea. I just, I need some furniture. You clearly know. Okay, so maybe we'll rethink it. I don't know. Also, Memphis people, tell us in the comments. We'll be supposed to be it. Yeah, I will also say, too, for Blake and Raven, I haven't brought this up privately, so I probably shouldn't bring it up publicly. I feel like for our season finale, we should go to LA and try to get on The Price is Right. But we'll discuss that another day. I literally want to do nothing less than that. You don't want to be jumping up there, titties up and down, winning a washing machine? I don't want to do the process wrapped. Oh, okay. Well, when they want to give you a Mercedes, you'll change your tune. I want to go. I don't need a car. Thank you. I do. I want to go to LA and like party. Let's do it. Should we go to LA? Gabe, have you ever been to Los Angeles? I snuck out when I was like 19. You did? And he went to Warner Brothers Studios. See, I want to do that stuff. I've been to LA a couple of times. I went the first time to film IKYFL. I went the second time to film IKYFL. But I actually got to, no. I've been three times. With Christina. And I went to visit Christina. And the time I went with Christina, we had a ball. I'm telling you what. See, that's my thing. Both times I've been to LA, no shade. The first time I went when I was like 17, I was with my mother. It was like fun. We went to Disney World, Disneyland. See, I've never done that kind of stuff. And then the second time I went, I went and did really cool stuff. But I was there alone. Oh, yeah. And so by the end, I was like, okay, I'm kind of like over my own company. I want to like do the tours like that you did and like see famous people's houses. See Melissa Peterman. And see, oh, we got to go visit our girl. We got to visit our girl at Happy's Place. That's our friend. Yes. Okay, moving on along. Yeah. Are we just going to continue on the cancel train? Did you hear about Yeezy? Yee? Yee? Whatever the name. Kanye Luan West. Not Kanye Luan. Okay. the reason I saw this was two reasons Chloe Bailey and Lauren Hugh so Chloe Bailey was at the show can you back up a little bit of course when did he release his album I don't know was it like recent is the album out I don't know because isn't it I thought it was because people were saying it was like AI songs I saw the video he did with Travis I sent it to y'all but I didn't know an album album came out yeah um he released the his 12th studio album titled bully on march 27th 2026 friday okay what were your top three album we didn't even know it was out so i saw chloe bailey there living her best life having a ball um and getting a lot of heat yeah for going what are your thoughts on that I'm not trying to be political with this I told Gabe I was like secret topic from the producer end I actually want to throw it back to you with a question oh my god no because I think it's going to go into what I'm asking you is cancel culture a real thing no you don't think so no cancel culture is only a real thing when it's the people who actually followed you in the first place. So like you're losing your own people. Correct. Okay. Because my thing is, is there were a list of celebrities there who after he said, yay, ye, what, I don't know, all these anti-Semitic, like anti-black, like all these super controversial things, and then they're up there. Is that in and I'm there? No, that's not, that's Kendrick Lamar. Hang on. A window, it all falls down. Lauren Hill up there on time for once. Like, what's going on on that big earth? I saw. So, I mean, Chloe Bailey. I'm not. If someone gave me tickets to a Kanye concert. Who is Ye? You're having a hard time. If somebody gave me tickets, I would be like, keep them. I don't need to. He may have apologized to everybody, but that doesn't mean I need to get back on board. Free? You wouldn't go to a free concert that you didn't pay for? No. Not one that I don't desire to see that artist at all. Like, I've gotten free tickets to stuff before. I'm like, I don't really want to go. I get that. I can't tell you that. So, yeah. What are your feelings? Were you disappointed? Were you like, damn, I wish I was there with her? Booty bumping? No. I would not pay money to go to a Kanye concert at this point. Keep in mind, I'm a person who's seen Kanye live many a times. I've been to a lot of Kanye shows prior to Slavery is a Choice, Anti-Semitism, all that. You were there for the work and make it new. I was there for, I went to a college dropout show. Wasn't he playing at like a barbecue or something? Yeah, like I went to when there was like, not that many people there. Like I was up in there. From a Chloe Bailey perspective, I think it's different because she's also a producer. And also like they're in the same lane, like creatively, that I could see why she would want to go. and like experience that and i and people forget i think how much kanye meant to so many people at the time personally would i pay money to go and see him no but am i about to like be like why would you go no so my next question is if somebody's like oh i've got some free tickets to this yay concert you're like i'm going i don't think i'm like i'm going but for the tea to come back and tell y'all the crazy stuff that happened, I would consider it. But I mean like that But my thing is like I don want to be seen there This is the thing I would want to go for the tea but I don want to be seen there Yeah And then everybody like oh she agreed with everything he said Not only was she here, she was here pop, block, and dropping it. Exactly. Because it would be hard to sit there like this for Jesus' fault. God, show me your way. You know what I mean? I do know what you mean. But see, that's where I go back to my own question. it's like we've we get up in droves and this is just i'm pulling it out of the kanye realm as well like when morgan wallen said all his stuff like you have a certain amount of people who go on the other end and they're like we're gonna go in harder for him but then you lose certain people and it's like is kanye right now like just finding the audience who just does not care that he said all that exactly and i think the two and this is like the argument that people make all the time And, like, Morgan Wallen has done horrible things and was still on SNL and, like, all of these platforms. He did a free show at Pinnacle the other day. That's what I'm saying. Sold out. So, like, I feel like it's, I have a harder time being, like, Kanye shouldn't do anything because everybody else should be doing whatever they want to do. and as far as we know he hasn't like assaulted anybody sexually or physically um or done anything like that do i agree with what he said hell no would i pay money to go see him hell no but am i gonna villainize people who do go hell no so that's your take it's like if somebody does go it's like okay well they have their own free will exactly that makes more sense so if i went to a Morgan Wallen concert? No. Different. Different. And different to all y'all out there. And if you ever see me at one, you better check me. I'm not going to. You're not going. But also like it's hard to pass on Lauryn Hill. Granted, I don't know if people knew she was going to be the I think she was like a surprise. Because I promised you the clip I saw, I was like Was it Yeah. That's not a Lauryn Hill song. But that's what she sang. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I danced in my bed. Yeah. You were like, oh, I can't believe she's there. I was like, oh my gosh, this is epic. But I also, like, I just hate that he did this to us. Like, I do, I love, like, early Kanye. And like, he just ruined it. Well, to go back to what we were talking about a few weeks ago, like you said, I'm going back up in Target. And we did have some people that were like, don't. Yeah. And I was like, I mean, I was like, I'm going to see what they're going to do. I haven't been. Yeah. But I'm going. But that's my thing. And I'm moving. I got to get some stuff. Like, I got to get some brooms. I'm going to be up in Target. But that's my thing is, like, people, they'll judge people who have no conscience. I don't want to say no conscience. Like, no second thought about going back after that pastor said it's over. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But then there's people who are like, you can keep it, and I don't know how I feel about you now. And I'm fine. Like I said, I think people should do what feels good to them. I'm not about to judge nobody for going to Target. I know gay people who go to Chick-fil-A and if you want to judge me for going to Target God bless you but like I just feel like you can't live your life like that like are people going to be mad are people not going to be mad blah blah blah blah like you stand up for what you believe in but also stand flat footed in your decisions in whatever that is I do yeah yeah good I will say my last thing is is it hard to police somebody if they're rhetorical is it hard to police somebody if they and joined themselves at a Kanye concert when billionaires who apparently did horrible things to children are clocking into work on their yacht. And we were like, that sucks. Apples and oranges, some could say. Or apples and apples. Moving on along. Moving on along. All right, it's that time of the week for Rewind Rundown, where the rosé is cold, the men are inseparable, and we're always Team Sierra. Woo-hoo! Team Sierra. Carl's a mess. Carl's a mess y'all I wanted to get that shirt for all of us like someone have the crew neck, someone have the hoodie, someone have the shirt this week, first of all no overnight shipping, second of all it was a little expensive how much are they? it was like 65 bucks the shirt was like 35 you should have got us 3 t-shirts no I could have had Gabe with his little cricket you have a cricket no but also our t-shirts are like 40 yeah you better shut up but we have good no also no i'm gonna stand on this ours is like beautifully designed by producer gabe it literally said carl's mess that you probably and was it stitched or was it truly cricketed on we don't know because we didn't buy them but we should have i didn't even think about that well rewind can buy you can you can be in charge of that okay um carl's a mess carl's a mess i have never loved lindsey more lindsey hubbard than i have in the last first of all their uber eats commercial. Hilarious. I want to ask you another question, but you keep going. I'm obsessed. I love that she's just like saying what it is. Like today she was like, this didn't happen. This didn't happen. We don't know when we're filming the reunion. Basically shut up and let us do our thing. I am team Lindsay so much right now. I adore her. Well, as someone who, you know, recently kind of read them a little bit, I tuned into the first few minutes of the Giggly Squad podcast when they kind of brought this up. They were like, we see things, but first of all, we're not going to have her on. Well, they didn't even say that much. They didn't say that. But they were like... They said, Sierra is our real friend in real life, and we are not going to monetize or publicize our friend's pain. Which begs the question, should Carl and Lindsay be doing an Uber Eats campaign? I think so. I think you should... I think as long as Sierra doesn't have a problem with it, nobody else should have a problem with it. If it were me and I were Sierra, I'd be like, get your bag. Also, if it were me and I was Sierra, the first place I would go to spill all the tea is Giggly Squad with my girls. And she's just not ready. And she also said, we see the group text, so trust. Stuff's going down, but we're not going to tell you about it. And my favorite part was Paige being like, yeah, our group chat is popping off. Yes, it's better than yours. another thing so allegedly allegedly word on the street was that the girls hired the pi that got sierra the info like hannah and page correct and on this episode now i don't know maybe i'm reading too much into this but page was like yeah we've been investigating this for months Like she was like, ask girls and girls and guys, you know, your besties have heard you tell the same story and mull over the same man for nine months. We've all been there. We've all done it. This is their real friend, meaning they've all been there and they've all done it. And Hannah was like, we were freaking Mary Kate and Ashley. Like we had our trench coats on. We're private eyes. Like we're investigating. And I was like, is this a confession? Are you confessing Hannah and Paige? That is some stuff we would do. No. Okay. So one time we told y'all I was talking to a man and I never tell y'all my business. And I thought he was following me. Like stalking you? Like stalking me. Okay. I saw somebody who I thought looked like him in public. I called Gabe and was like, no, I think this man is following me. And he's like, what's the license plate number? I sent Gabe the license plate number. You look it up and get that full digest. 100%. Full diagnostics. Full diagnostics. Where was the car ball? When was the car ball? Where did it come from? His last oil change was two weeks ago. Literally. Like, if you don't have friends that would do that, like, you don't have friends. No, you don't. If you don't have a friend that would do that for you. I wanted to go one time when you went on a date, and I wanted to show up in wigs and sunglasses, but you did ex-may that one. Because I want to see how it went. Yeah. I can just tell you. No, I want to see what's going on. I'm an open book, baby. Open list. Okay. I'm cutting that off. I mean, you can keep it. I'm an open book to y'all because y'all are my real friends in real life. I ain't telling y'all. Yeah, when there's drama in our group, hopefully not as crazy as the Sierra stuff, but we'll be like, Raven's our real friend. And we have a group chat. And she's actually not responding because she's in the bed on her bonnet. In the bed on her bonnet. I will say, we were all talking about like friend group dynamics when we were at Gabe's birthday. And we were like, we're more loyal to the information than we are with each other when it comes to the handlers. Yes. Now, so if something happens to one of the handlers, okay, we have to tell you who the handlers are. It's the three of us. Yeah. It's eight total. Yeah. Anthony, Angelo, Kelsey, Ellen, Anna Catherine. Anna Catherine, who's kind of like a guest star, but she's in there. No, she's like a, like a record, like the one who's like, she doesn't have like the title card, but at the bottom it always says, and Anna Catherine. and we love her. If something happens, I feel like it's free reign for me to talk to the other handlers. So if Gabe tells me something and doesn't specify not to say nobody, I'm calling another handler to be like, can you believe what he just told me? Oh yeah. But the difference is, and I think this is what these girls are saying outside people. Absolutely not. No there. and I we said this while we were talking about this there was one time I was like telling a friend like I was like oh like so like Gabe's hanging out with this person and he kind of like popped off and made a little comment it was no shade not giving all your tea it was like Gabe's little on again off again friend and this person who knew nothing about that drama like tried to talk it to me like we were familiar and I was like no no no that's like you can't talk about my sister but I can call her a bitch 100,000% I was like, you don't know enough about that. You're not in the stakes. You don't know about the Jonas Brothers concert of 2023. You don't know the T. You weren't in the trenches with us when all of this was going down. Okay? So, like, if me and Blake are beefing, I'm calling Ellen. I call Ellen, too, because she's the voice. She is the voice. And she's like, we probably didn't mean it like that. Exactly. I'm calling Ellen. We're talking through it. But, like, if someone from the outside, I'm telling Ellen, and an outside person's like, well, Blake, da-da-da. I'm like, shut the f*** up. I will fight you. And that is just how friendship works. Also, if I'm beefing with any one of them, I call you because you get me riled up. I'm like, right? And you're like, oh, what? And then we can sit on the phone for like two hours. And out of nowhere, we're like, so when Rewind goes on Twitter, it just ebbs and flows. But I love seeing other friend groups like dynamic. Because there's a lot. I mean, there's eight of us. That's like a lot of people. A lot of moving parts. A lot of moving parts. but I love hearing about their friend group dynamic and that they have been doing exactly what we would have all been doing oh absolutely 100,000 our group chat would have been lit lit I will say another part that I really enjoyed was Hannah because you didn't watch but like Hannah and Kyle and Amanda all had big beef and Hannah's still convinced that Kyle is the reason she's no longer on the show so Hannah was like talking about when Sierra first came on they were supposed to be fighting over a guy luke she yeah see hannah liked this guy named luke i don't think they actually dated but they like he was leading her on yes and then the next season he brought on sierra as his like plus one that's how sierra came on the show when you said they were supposed to be fighting this like a producer yeah okay so she was brought into the house to be like hannah versus sierra over this guy and hannah was like she got there we looked at each other we were like i love you we're girls girls we're not gonna do this like we're gonna stick up for each other and she was like from that day on i knew that like we would be friends yeah and i'm like see this is amanda could never this is my and see my mind goes to it from a production perspective like is it that hard to wait at times for a story to develop like before you come in i'm like well you're supposed to be gabe's enemy knowing how well y'all get along like no they didn't know each other okay like they did not know each other but still from a producer they're like we're gonna fight you over this one part like that's like the best you can do yeah i think they thought i think that they thought that they would play ball and they would lean into it for a storyline and they were like no housewives yeah no we're not about to be the girls who are fighting over a guy on national television we're not going to be those girls and i think it just shows the like bond between like all of them and like that they actually have all each other's backs unlike like some other people in the house, obviously. And like even Lindsay, like she's picked a side. Like she's very much been a girl's girl. I feel like everybody, like all the girls that are in the house now, I haven't really heard from Bailey and McKenna. They made their like little comment of like the big 12. I don't know. She doesn't even have a confessionals. No, she's not going to make it. Respectfully. Respectfully. My thing is, is I watched the reunion last year with y'all. And one, people have been saying this online. Wes never talks during those. And I want somebody to literally force his mouth open this time. He'd be like, explain your behavior. If he shows up a sweaty, bumbling mess, I'm going to be pissed. This is what I'm looking forward to because, Amanda, this will be her 10th season on the show. Every single reunion, she's had Kyle to back her up when Lindsay hated her. She's had Paige to back her up. And now she's going to have to sit up there with a mute and get reamed. And I can't wait. I think Kyle is going to be Captain. I know he's already on this, like Amanda apology train. Like we should forgive her. Kyle love sit there. Yeah. Also now I'm kind of glad I didn't buy Carl's mess. Like let her fight her own battles. Let her like, let her talk. I will be so mad If he jumps to her defense Yeah Because she needs I know they were married But like Yeah They're still married Yeah but she needs To speak up for herself And so does Wes Like they need to talk Yeah You are on a team At this point It's contractual Talk You're on a show You want to be produced Talk Exactly Lindsay go in Because I saw the thing With Paige Where she was screaming What was her name Danielle And I saw the thing Where she was screaming At Lindsay and Carl And she was like You don't have jobs How are you going to pay For the wedding like so I'm like where's that because even the traitors finales they're like oh we're gonna go in and then they get in there and they're like you hurt my feelings and she's like well no we need lindsey to be activated we need amanda to talk and stand and say whatever it is you can say and we need wes to not act like a three-year-old who's like afraid and crying and scared and wanting you're not gonna get any sympathy you might as well show up and be a big kid also you have a podcast so obviously you know how to talk non-stop for an hour. Takes one to know one. My other question is about all this. Somebody tagged we posted it was one of our three clips we posted on TikTok about this and somebody tagged another creator I don even know their name I saw that Did you watch the video I did And this girl was like I don understand why it a big deal Like, Amanda did. I don't even remember what she said. Basically, she was like, I don't understand. Like, these are all single people. Yeah. Like, dating. You're a bad friend. You're a bad friend. You're a terrible friend. And all the black women in those comments were like, sis, you still have time to delete this. because it all and then someone was like this also shows that you have no self-esteem exactly i was like and there was like 300 views to like like 30 comments and i was like girl delete it anybody who's like i mean i just don't really understand like why is everyone so mad i'm like oh you're that girl you're the girl that nobody's gonna be friends with after this because you have no boundaries i just don't get it it pisses me off now i will ask lindsey there was some hubbub that apparently Amanda had posted this random thing that Lindsay and Kyle had hooked up and then it was taken down. Was that real? I don't know if that was real. I googled it and nothing came about. And I feel like Bravo verse. But I also feel like Lindsay would have shut that down so fast had it been real. So I don't think that was real. Did you watch the episode? Yes. Tell me how you feel. Okay so now I've been like watching clips back of like this season because I still think maybe they didn't but they definitely there was some at least emotional cheating going on and basically at the beginning of the episode they all sit Amanda down and Lindsay tells Sierra like hey tell Amanda what you found out and the look on Amanda's face knowing what we know now gave oh shit she found out I got caught I saw that watching the show now is really hard. It ruined it. It ruined it. Well, I know last week y'all were like, it's the end of Summer House, but also I saw today, you've sent it, the house is up for sale. Yeah. So where are we actually going to do Summer House? Well, you know, they've changed houses before. Oh, have they? Yeah. This hasn't always been the house. I was like, it's the end. It's like when the friends moved out of their apartment. Yeah, no, the house don't matter, baby. They go wherever. But I, it's ruined the show. I'm ready for, I'm just ready for the reunion. Yeah. Lindsay made it very clear that the date is not April 15th as everyone has been saying. So we don't know when the reunion, if you work at Bravo or you know somebody who works at Bravo. You can come up in here anonymous. Yeah, just tell us. We will say the streets are saying. The streets are because we are exactly. Tell us when the reunion is going to be because we are waiting on pins and needles. I know a guy who knows a guy and this sounds fake, but he can maybe get me some Bravo tea. So I'll see what we're going to talk about. Let me know. But I'll cover it all with allegedly allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly. I will say before we move on to the next topic, and Gabe introduces the next thing, you haven't is that it? Yeah, baby. Okay, did you watch the Lamar Odom documentary? I did. See, last week she told me to watch something I didn't, and I ended up watching it today, and it, oh, okay, before we talk about Lamar Odom, that manosphere BS was crazy. It's hilarious, is it not? Yes, like, I wasn't even enraged. Has anybody seen the manosphere since we talked about it last week? Comment below. So I was like laughing. It's ridiculous. Because I didn't even get to the part yet where you said the mom like slaps his hand and he gets like into submission, if you will. I'm watching the guy interviewing him. He's like, so you can have a wife or a girlfriend and you can sleep with anybody, but she has to be loyal to you. And he starts asking the girlfriend. He's like, does that bother you? And she's like, oh, well, you know, that kind of thing. And he almost kind of like cowers. And I'm like, Mr. Homeland Security is out here cowering. these men. And then, sorry, after the interaction is then when they want to get tough and they get online. Exactly. And I was like, this is so funny. So you did enjoy it. I did. I want to finish it. But yes, I'm enjoying it because also, the way you described it when you're like, they're in the middle of filming and they're like, you know, he's like, you can't talk to her. I thought it was going to be a lot more like yelling. And as much as I love mess, sometimes that is like. It's not. They're little bitch babies. They're little bitch babies. And then that one guy the first one he interviews where he's like oh like here's this video of me getting head last night from somebody he like kind of gets wind that he might be doing a hit piece on him and then he just disappears i'm like what happened to puff your chest out and stand up there it is watching it all fall apart is the best part of that documentary like watching it completely unravel yeah this like persona that they have is so fascinating also if you want to be a red pill grifter why do you always have to go to Miami I don't know like all lived in my like some of them did like they like all lived in Miami I'm like why can't you go to Dallas like I'm running these streets out here in the DFW like why is everybody like I'm in Miami like it just adds to like your shtick it's like it's slimy it's slimy it's used car salesman that guy Justin he immediately gets gets out of the car and starts defending himself he's like by the way I just need everybody to know a car is not what success is it's being able to be a man he was my least favorite so while I was watching it. I had an idea. No, we should do it. It's like a Blake and Raven be doing stuff, but it's just me, but that sounds bad. Let me just explain it. You're going to be on a walkie-talkie. We should send me to one of these alpha camps and see how not how long I last, but where they make you roll in the mud and be like, I am a man. And then at night, I'll get my walkie-talkie out and be like, girl. I don't think you'd enjoy that as much as you think you would. No, because I'd get everybody in there to queen out. Because let's be real, the other men in there. Or they would try to hurt you and then I would have to bust up in there. And that would be great TV. That would be such good content. Gay with the camera on the shoulder. Grown men. No, but that's the thing. Like, if we could actually find a way to get away with that, that would be so funny. Well, now we've told everybody on the internet. I would get all the men in there to queen out. I'd be like, girl. And even if they're not gay, I'd be like, girl, are we, didn't we really just roll around in the mud? Let's all sing Pink Pony Club. I don't think that this is going to be what you think it is. This is not Boots on Netflix. It's not canceled. Anyway, Did you watch the Lamar Odom documentary? Girl. Okay. Poor Lamar in a lot of ways. He was set up for failure from like his upbringing. At the same time, I didn't realize how much of a con artist he is. A little bit. Loves that camera. That is the part that stuck out to me the most was Chloe being like, first of all, they had this like whirlwind love affair. I don't know if y'all remember, but they like met. They were together for nine days, got married in 30 days. It was this whirlwind love affair all filmed on camera. Him being like, well, I got the red carpet laid out for me as a as a basketball player with her. We get the satin carpet. it and like i'm like is that a diss no i think he means like it's better okay and i'm like did you do this for fame first class up in the he was like very much like the power and the family and the this and the that and i'm like are you telling me this woman has like taken care of you in your lowest of lows and this is what you say on camera i was even all these years later i was shocked so what makes me want to ask were you i don't want to say is it respected but like is it better for him to be that honest no or you do you you'd be like bitch we know you're doing a documentary but keep up no like no you talk about how she was the love of your life and how she took care of you when you couldn't walk and talk and then you did crack in her house and you talk about how much of The saint she's. Say what you want about the Kardashians. Say what you want about Khloe. How she stepped in and treated him. Yeah, because I didn't realize he had wanted a divorce. She is a saint. Mm-hmm. And then his dad, like, basically being like, pull the plug. That was crazy. Like, I just feel like. He was like, give me $100 in a hotel room. And a pair of Nikes. And a pair of Nikes. Yeah. So I'm like, don't get on here and disrespect her. Yeah. As if like that's the only reason you married her. I just, I didn't like that. I didn't either. And I'll be honest. The documentary was like what? Hour 20? Yeah. It's slow. It was slow. And I'm not saying like, oh, it happened not that long ago. But I'm like, I thought it was like a recurring thing or something. They were like, this happened in like 2013 or 2015 or 16. And now he's like kind of, he's back. And I was like, big reveal. Exactly. Like we knew he was. But like not doing anything. Now the craziest part was the guy who owned the bunny rabbit ranch or whatever it was called. Out there doing hard promo. He was like, I'll go, I'll give you the footage of him at my ranch as long as you put me on the Today Show and introduce my new book, How to Be a Pimp. People are disgusting. People are gross. The walkthrough of like. Unless you have information, sorry, on the Bravo. Exactly. Sponsored by Rewind. Different. That is not life or death. Yeah, no, it's, yeah, yeah. Sorry. The walkthrough of, like, everything that happened that night leading up to his, like, strokes and heart attacks and all the things. Terrifying. Devastating. Also, not all of this being over the sexual enhancement performance drugs. Baby Viagra can be scary. It's blood pressure medication. It was like the ones you get from the gas station. A horny goat weed. and he took 12 they said and that's why he okay but I because as you all probably know maybe you don't know have like lived with people with like you know it was a hard watch it was a hard watch for me my thing that frustrated me I guess is the word is his daughter at the end of the documentary she was like he just kind of like came out of the coma and was like alright like there was it felt like there was no resolve and like i was i don't know it just like out of both of those documentaries i was more drawn to the the man's fear there's no more like pizazz i just don't i don't i don't understand like the purpose of the lamar odom doc honestly is it kind of like that e well not e i know what you're talking about like they do they would do like a quick one hour. Yeah, but it just, like you said, there's no resolve. It just, I don't know. It was, I watched it. It was fine. Do I recommend it? I don't know. Yeah, I don't, I mean, if you like all that. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't even a sports person so for the beginning when they were like, he was going up in the league. See, that part I really enjoyed because I do, I love like a draft. Like, I want to hear about like how he did in high school and all that. I enjoyed that part. I will say, we're not going to talk about it this week because we're about to go, But I need you to see the drama. Oh, yeah. With Zendaya and Robert Pattinson. I know. Me and Gabe saw it last night with some of the handlers. And I have so many thoughts. Was it good? There's no way we can explain it. You have to see it. I've heard some comments. I have a lot going on this week, but I'm going to try to go see it. You should try to go see it because it's, and I'm not even going to give plot points away, but the feeling you have when you're in that theater and you're like, is that funny? Should I laugh at this? That was weird. Like kind of thing. Zendaya and Robert acted their ass off. Really? I'm excited now. But we walked out and we were like, okay. And then I looked at them and I was like, I have an unpopular opinion, but I, and especially I want to give people who are watching time to see it too. Too. But yeah, but I have what I feel like is maybe an unpopular opinion, but I went real deep and I was like, maybe it's because of the way I grew up. So I'm going to put a pin in that. Okay. I'm going to watch it this week. And that's what we're going to do. I'm going to find some time. Find some time. We're not filming those things. I know, but. But it's because you're moving. Speaking of moving, are you doing good? You need to pray? Does it be people out there? I'm going to talk. Remember those handlers that we talked about? I'm going to need to bring in some reinforcements. My first and last time at your apartment. Literally, I'm struggling. So, yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Final thing. I saw this the other day. There are best friends who you know every square foot of their house. And there are other friends you don't even know what they do or where they live. Kelsey's house. Oh, I've been to her place a bunch of times. Never been to Anna Catherine's. I've never been to Angelos. I've been to Anna Catherine's. Never been to Angelos. I've never been to Anna Catherine's. Ellen we see occasionally, but she's always out of town. Yeah. You, I literally went over once with Gabe to bring you breakfast, and you let us stay. Gabe, party house. He's at Gabe's house, live at Anthony's. He's Trace. He's the party house. Yeah, live here. Yeah. Well, we live here. You don't even go into that other room. That's true. When I get my new place, I'm going to, like, be the girl who, like, has people over. Yes. Road trip out to... Don't. Oh, road trip out to... Shut up. Just say road trip, nigga. No, because you... Oh, sorry. Yes! Road trip to Cookville. Yes. So I will do better. Okay. Okay. Anything else? No, that's all. Gabe, do you have anything? I'm good. All right. 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