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We've got some nightmare co-worker stories, and I'm joined by two co-workers who are... cool. Yes! Yeah. Trevor and Angela are here. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. Even though I know as your co-worker, you didn't decide for me to be here. Someone higher up did. Yeah. I heard actually... Right there, Emily. ...through the great mind that you specifically didn't want me here. Yeah, I requested for you not to be here, but they were like, no, he's the only one available right now. And I was like, oh... Damn. Out of our 30 cast members. 50 cast members. 30 cast. I feel like... We have a very unique co-worker situation. Right. Being co-workers as on camera cast members here at Smosh is such a weird co-worker vibe. I also feel like the word... I would say, oh, I work with Trevor. I work with Shane. But the word co-worker to me goes back to my survival jobs, which was like, oh, this is someone I burn time with while we try to make money and keep it going. Yeah. We're friends in that setting alone, and then outside of that, I'm like, nah, I don't know you. I feel like being friends is kind of part of our job here. Our job is to get on camera and be chill and have fun, which adds a pressure to it. That's where it's a unique job in that it's like, oh, we have to be cool with each other. Thank God it works out. But I will say the bond between co-workers is one of my favorite. And our bond, it doesn't really make sense in that thing. Our bond, we don't have that. It doesn't really make sense, because everything's fake and I don't really like you guys. But I mean, I'd say... But co-workers, Amanda and I did some of these caterer characters once for a TikTok I was making, and her and I, we both remembered that... Do you remember when you're co-workers with your survival jobs, you go through fucking war with them, and you're like, what's your name again? You don't even remember each other's names. I remember her and I remember that. Or it's like, I just feel like you learn each other much faster than I hang out, than grabbing drinks. Sure. Because you're in the thick of it. There's no time to think. You're moving when you're a hostess or a waiter or something like that. You just got to go. You're dealing with other people who suck, so you get used to that. I feel like I look at my dynamic with not the actors here, but crew members, where we're doing a completely different thing. But for us, I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I get a little bit more of that feeling, and I'm still friends with everyone, the same way as I am with all the cast members. But it's interesting, but I never worked any jobs like that. Oh yeah. So I never had that real experience of it. It's like going through the same bullshit with people, and you're the only outlet. It's not like they can call someone an event. If someone does something stupid, like when I worked in the bakery, they would just come back into the kitchen when I was making croissants, and they'd just be pissed off, and I'm like, tell me about it, man. What's going on out there in the trenches? You were in the bear. There is something so specific about the coworker group text, compared to other group texts, where you're just talking mad shit. You're nodding. I'm wondering if you're talking shit, Ollie. No kidding. Yeah. I'm just walking it. All right, well, let's get into some of these stories about what people are doing to their coworkers, with their coworkers, the dynamics of coworkers. Because I feel like there's a bunch of unwritten rules, like what to do, what not to do. Like would you get married and do a prank on the internet? Yeah, like would you do that? Emma. 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So it's not like there's any cheating going on, but both of them are technically my supervisors. So I'm getting preferred hours and easier shifts. The only thing is neither of them know I'm fucking the other and they 100% do not get along. Long story short, I might be a bitch, but I'm having a great time. What the hell dude? There are so many contexts. I feel like when you hear a story like this, I got to know what job they have. Me too. I'm like, what's the funniest version of this? They're supervisors. Like there are jobs where this is like, yeah man, that's just how it is. That flies. And then there are jobs where I'm like, this is a problem. What's a job where you have multiple supervisors and you're working shifts? Yeah, I guess it could be a restaurant. Funny. I'd love it if they were just like an accountant. And it's just three of them. Or like a law firm. It's the two lawyers and then it's her or him. I don't know. I mean... That's so funny. It's the paralegal and the two partners. Yeah. It's like, all right, this is how it goes. New season of Better Call Saul. They sue each other. But preferred hours, yeah. It's giving like a type of... Yeah, like service or like retail, something like that. I do think this is a big HR violation because it's supervisors and they are clearly showing her preferred... Everything's a fucking HR violation. They're showing her but they... It's also like, it's like, okay, you're having sex with them. But then finding out like, oh, and now they're giving you preferred hours and easier shifts. I'm like, that's not good. That feels to me like fireable. This is gonna end badly. We don't have an update, but it's gonna end badly. I also, it's refreshing to see a Reddit post that's just like, hey guys, I'm getting away with something. I don't have clear communication, but it's awesome. It's sick as hell. Okay, but who gets fired when everyone finds out? The supervisors should be the one who get fired. They are the in charge people. They're the one technically taking it. I mean, I think I would assume. I had weird service industry jobs. I didn't have anything like a buy the book, like at a restaurant or a retail place. Are you supposed to not date coworkers? I think the issue is more muddy when it's a supervisor, when it's different levels. Yeah, but like is it a rule? It probably varies by company, but the problem is that there's just this uncomfortable thing of like if someone has power over the other person, then where it gets muddy is like, oh, well, I'll give you an easier shift. I think what they're avoiding, what they're trying to protect is a supervisor going, well, I'll give you an easier shift if you have sex with me. That's where it's muddy. That's what you want to protect. And that's why it's kind of like this rule that's there. It's not like, hey, no, having sex because sex is bad. But because it's like we're not trying to protect the people who are not in charge from being taken advantage of. Also though, like restaurants are like godless places. Like anything goes in there. And I could see like if they have two supervisors and it's a restaurant, honestly, the supervisor might not answer to anyone other than like the owner of the restaurant. Like I could see just being a thing where they just get in a fight with each other. And then I don't know, restaurants are crazy. No, for sure. But it's also a thing like with a lot of coworkers, it's kind of just like you don't really hang out outside. So one of these two supervisors is going to be like, how's your personal life? You know what I mean? It feels like it's either one or the other. Yeah. Yeah. And if they hate each other, yeah, then they're probably not talking too much. What a dance though to pull where I'm like, you're sleeping with two people who you all work together. You're sleeping with these two people. So that means you have to meet up with them at different times and you're trying to make them not know about the other. You're misdoubt firing. I'm like, that's just too stressful for me. I'm like, I could never. I couldn't handle that. I couldn't do that. I'm trying to think if I could. Seems like a scheduling nightmare. That's kind of where I'm at. I'm like, morals be damned. I'm like, I can't schedule this. I can't handle this. But it also is giving lace that they got out of a big long term relationship. She's communicating clearly to them. She isn't cheating. She's single. She's saying, and she's saying, I'm seeing other people. And I'm like, sometimes you got to heal from a breakup and a really long term relationship and just kind of see the water. Yeah. She's telling them, hey, I'm sleeping with other people. I'm seeing other people. But she's not telling them who the other people she's seeing is their other supervisor. And she's posting on Reddit like, I did it. Yeah. Long story short, I might be a bitch, but I'm having a great time. It's like, hey, that's the punchline to a tagline to a movie. That's usually the company only fucks me. Nice. Someone said, just a regular Tuesday night in the restaurant industry. 5,000 upvotes. Someone said, OP's life is going to implode faster than the Titan submersible. I can see why she got divorced. Wow. That person's never seen an episode of Vanderbump. Yeah. OP only said they got out of a long term relationship. We don't know if it was a divorce. And honestly, look, whether you like it or not, I feel like some people do pull this stuff off and they get away with it. And essentially, it sounds like in the restaurant industry that this is just kind of a Tuesday. Someone said the twist, it's a family business. Kind of a dark twist. Someone said, at a place I used to work, a girl was juggling two of our coworkers like that. Neither were her supervisors, though. The guys found out about each other. It ended with one of them getting arrested for showing up at her place in the middle of the night with a knife. Good luck, OP. Okay. It loves to be like, you're going to die. You're going to die because of this. She's like, I have healthy communication. I've told them both. I can't be exclusive. You're going to, someone's going to have a knife. You're going to get stabbed. You're going to get stabbed, dude. Look. Hey. More power to her. I have no problem. I like how there's a comment underneath that just says, damn. Damn, dude. Okay. That's a good comment. It is a good, hey, it's something that really happened. Damn. I'm like, hey, this really happened and someone said, damn. It's refreshing. The whole thing. Yeah. A little pilot cleanser at the top. All right. Our next story comes from, am I the asshole? Am I the asshole for snapping at a coworker for being an obnoxious busy body when I dropped my coffee? Okay. Last week when I, 35 year old man, was walking back into work from my break, the lid popped off my large iced coffee and the entire drink spilled in the front doorway of my lab building. I looked down side, fuck me because I really needed the caffeine and started walking to the bathroom to grab some paper towels. A friend, 24 year old woman from my lab was walking in at the same time and she also darted off to grab some paper towels. But the second that I dropped it, another older woman, 55 year old woman from a different lab who was on her way out for the night started loudly yelling, OP, you need to clean that up in a condescending tone down a hallway of private offices. I kind of raised my eyebrow and kept walking to the men's room to grab the paper towels. But a couple seconds later when she got to the doorway, she yelled, OP, OP, come back and clean this up right now. And I turned around and yelled, with fucking what Kim, did you want me to plop down and sit on it? I'm getting paper towels. With fucking what? With fucking what Kim? With fucking what Kim? That's awesome. I don't know why that reminds me of the H bomber guy. Sell them to who Ben? Fucking Aquaman. So it's a thing. She started yelling back, oh yeah, well you better be, but I cut her off and loudly said, buy with a hand wave and all of the energy of fuck right off to hell. And she went on her way. This was when my friend popped back out with some paper towels and asked, what the fuck is her problem? She laughed when I told her about the exchange and said it was wild behavior on her part. But I still felt pretty embarrassed that I snapped at an older lady and childlessly yelled buy in a sing song tone and waved her off. Am I the asshole? No. No. No, dude. With fucking what Kim is the funniest thing. With fucking what Kim? You want me to sit on it? You want me to sit on it? God damn it. Okay. We're building an alien in here in this lab. We're building an alien. We're building one. We found parts of an alien. Sorry Kim. We have to hold curing cancer for another 15 minutes. Yeah, well I clean up my coffee with my ass. Okay, I will say this. I have a personal relationship to this story. Not to these people. Because you were going to lab. Yes, because I own a lab coat in my sketch bag. Okay, no. I spill a lot and it does suck that when you make a mess in front of a bunch of people, you have to leave. You have to leave to, yeah. And then you hear like oh yeah, Angela did that. She's not here. But I'm getting shit. Like I get it. I really get this story. Like you're like I'm coming back. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough because yeah, you do have to bounce to get things. And I have before spilled so much and I've had, it's happened to me I think twice where I just kind of take my sweater and I'm like sorry. And I use my sleeve because I'm just like I just want to fix it now. Totally. I feel so bad when you spill something and then someone else starts cleaning it up and they're like no, no, don't worry about it. I got it. And then I'm just standing there and I'm like I feel like a piece of shit right now. Okay, but don't you feel like a piece of shit if you just stand there you don't even help? Yeah, well no, but it happened recently. I spilled my water bottle but I was at like an event. Like it was in a basketball tournament and like production people came over. And we're like cleaning it up. And I also had spilled it like all over myself. So I was kind of cleaning myself up too. But they're like no, we got it. And there were like three people doing it and I was just like, I don't know what to do but I feel really awkward and I appreciate you. It is a very awkward moment where you're just standing there. But usually when I feel like when you spill something there's like a lot of people around. It just always feels like that's the case. And so I guess you can loudly announce like, oh my God, I'm going to go get paper towels. I'm going to get paper towels. I'm not walking away from the show. I'm fixing this. I'm not here but I'm fixing this. I'm going to fix this but in order to fix it I have to leave really quick. I love to like imagine the hallway super fucking long. Like the bathroom's way down there and he's just all the way down the hallway with fucking what can. Yeah, it's annoying. What's annoying about the lady is that she just immediately assumes the worst as opposed to going like, oh like shit, like, oh you're probably going to the bathroom to like clean it. And then she's like, I'm going to clean her part to be like, would anyone, would any adult make a spill and just leave? I guess some people would. Some people would but it sounds like they know each other. Not people in a lab. They know each other. He knows, they know each other's names. Yeah. Like it's not some stranger. And she's like this again. Yeah. No, she just sounds based on the one sentence we have of her. She sounds like the worst person ever. No, I'm just kidding. The verdict was not the asshole. Comments. Well, your coworker was acting like you were a child at the daycare she works at. She deserved to get told off. OP responded, that was exactly how she said it. My friend heard the first part and said it was crazy for her to talk like that to a grown adult. Someone responded to that saying, look, honestly, it just sounds like she was at the end of a long shift and assumed you were walking away from your coffee spill forever, leaving it for someone else to clean up. But frankly, even if it was an honest mistake, she assumed and made an ass out of well just herself really. Ten bucks says she either has a really useless husband or spends a lot of time on Am I the Asshole and constantly thinks the worst of everyone. Which is what's happening to you. That's what happens to me. Yeah. Yeah, I have a useless husband. Oh, no, I meant the second because you read a lot of Reddit. Yeah, I know. Oh, I don't have a husband. I understand now. Please Trevor speak just so we can move on. Okay. Trevor say something. Do something. Dude, yeah, I mean, that's crazy. I'm going to think about that one for a while. Yeah, I'm just going to stick with me. Someone said, oh, I mean, what did she expect you to clean it up with your suit jacket? How obnoxious, not the asshole. And I'm sorry for the loss of your iced coffee. I'd have probably said worse than that if my caffeine had been snatched that rudely from my lips. Someone said, not the asshole. Who does that to another adult? Someone said, sometimes you just need to stand up for yourself to these people once for them to back down forever. I worked with a similar busy body once and she was responsible for reviewing our admin reports. She had a bristly personality and a lot of people made complaints about her rude behavior to management. I was walking in one winter morning and she spotted me heading down the corridor toward my desk. She ran over and walked behind me telling me about what errors I had made in my paperwork. This was a normal occurrence and I guess I just hit my limit that day. I stopped and looked at her and said, Jesus Christ, can I take off my fucking jacket first before we start this shit? She looked like I'd slapped her in the face. She was the sweetest person ever to me afterwards and would regularly stop by my desk just to chat. That one interaction changed our whole dynamic. It seems like a crazy outcome to that interaction. Yeah, that's a crazy switch up. I think some people just like, that almost seems, that comment makes it feel like maybe that person wasn't trying to be, like that's just how they operate. That's the way they work. So like kind of being like, oh, I needed someone to tell me that this was coming off bad to like adjust my behavior. Because I'm also thinking like, if you spill, I can't believe I'm still talking about this. If you spill and then someone's like, I'll get you paper towels and then you kind of just stand over your mess for a bit and you're like, don't worry, someone's bringing paper towels. There's not like a great way to handle it. It's always awkward. A spill is always awkward. You're acting like the mess cone. Yeah, where you're like, yeah. Yeah. Floor is wet. That's the worst. Yeah, when you spill something and you're like, if anyone comes by, I like, you're just shouting like, hey, watch out for this. If you come over here, hey, there's a spill over here. Yeah, a spill sucks. Anyways, next story. Okay. Our next one is a confession. I used to eat my co-workers apple chips at work, then tell him that I was allergic to apples so he wouldn't accuse me. Wow. That's so funny. That's so funny. God damn. What a brilliant person. What a brilliant awful person. Just to be clear, this wasn't because I was particularly hungry. It's because my co-worker was an absolute asshole. Yes! Yes, it's even better. That's so good. That's awesome. I don't even enjoy them. I actually hate eating them. I don't think apples should be chips. I do it from malice. It's just like actually allergic to apples. Still doing it. He was really creepy towards the girls in the office and always said some pretty weirdly racist shit to our other co-worker who was from Mexico. All right, yeah, man, eat those apples. Eat those fucking chips. Eat them. He was just a crude, horribly annoying person who seemingly took enjoyment out of making everyone around him uncomfortable. He was like a mix of Todd Packer from the office and Tony Soprano. He always brought these apple chips into work to eat for lunch. And occasionally I would go in, take the apple chips, and go to the nearby park and eat them for lunch. He would go around asking everyone if they took the chips and would act all pissed off because he knew someone took them. Instead of just flat out telling him I'm allergic to apples, I put on a little show. He was eating his chips two days before I started to take them and I asked if I could have one. I took one and almost took a bite, then said, these aren't apple flavored, are they? And he said they were. And I quickly put it back on the plate and went to go wash my hands and I said I was allergic. What a little show. That's awesome. Much more believable than me just flat out telling him. This went on for about two months. I must have taken his chips like 10 times or so. That's so awesome. Wow. Oh man. He's dying. Yeah, you know, general rule is you don't eat other people's food, but they're being creepy and racist. I think you're allowed. And like two wrongs don't make a right, but it is kind of funny. It's extremely funny. It's also so funny for him. What did it say that he kept walking around going, do you eat my apple chips? Did you eat them? Hey bitch, did you eat my apple chips? Fuck. Hey, did you eat my apple chips? Fuck. Hey bitch, did you eat my apple chips? I guess that's my only thought in this is I'm like, okay, so this guy's awful. Is he gonna, who's he gonna blame first? Are you actually making life worse for some of the other coworkers? Okay, good thought. That's my only thought is like, all right, you know he's racist. You know he's like sexist. You're not gonna be, as you've said, you're not gonna be his corporate. Is this gonna just make life harder for other coworkers? Is he gonna start being suspicious of them? Yeah, and you're just washing your hands clean. And you're fine. It's something to consider. This is like the most low stakes form of like vigilante justice. Yeah. Like this guy is operating outside of the law just taking apple chips. Because it's not even real chips. Yeah. Stupid chips. It's like if Robin Hood stole apple chips from rich people. And everyone went, we actually just want the real chips. Like there's just as much chips as like potato chips. So, just so you know. What do you mean by that? Just like I feel like we're talking shit on apple chips. Yeah, I don't, because I don't understand those, they're apples. They're not chips. Yeah, they're potatoes, they're not chips. I've never had an apple chip. I'm so sorry, one second Trevor. So, so, so chips are potato chips. Okay, right? So chips are potato chips. Well, chips actually chips, like in Britain, they're like fries. They call them potato chips. Yeah, potatoes. So, so chips. Yeah, they call them crisps. Yeah, but chips, I believe chip is potato. So putting a little funny hat on it, putting a funny hat on a piece of apples on a fruit and being like, here go play with the boys. No, you're not a chip, you're an apple. Because an apple chip is basically dehydrated fruit. That's dried fruit. Is a chip, is a chip not like. But I think it comes in the shape and texture. Yeah, it's the shape and texture thing. Like when you're at a park, those are wood chips. So if I'm the shape and texture of a bear, that doesn't make me a bear. If you are, if, okay, if you are the shape and texture. If I was me. Look, I'm not part of the gay community, but I feel like they have. I feel like they've literally made that distinction. Quite literally made that distinction. Hey, you made the worst possible comparison. I'm like, I think they do that. I think they say that. I think they literally say that. We have to move on. Alright. Comments, modern problems require modern solutions. Someone said, how did this help at all with mitigating his shitty behavior? Someone said, thank you. You just reminded me just how much I love apple chips and I need to buy some. You added that comment. That's not a real comment. No. No one in their right mind would have said, I need to remember to buy apple chips. Just remind me just how much I love apple chips and I need to buy some. They sound delicious. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. Can I say something kind of like more serious than the story is? Well, like it is my problem with revenge where I'm like, that's cool. You're doing this thing to him. It's cathartic, but I'm like, you're not making the situation better. He's still racist and sexist and creepy. Is not the goal to try to eliminate that behavior or get rid of him from this office. Now, if all of those are exhausted and there's nothing you can do, yeah, eat his apple chips. That's funny. And I think as an audience, our initial like, yeah, when we heard he was a bad guy, is like our want for justice when we're watching bad things happen and people get away with them. We go like, oh, like, I don't necessarily want harm on him, but I want him to be held accountable. Right. And if I can't see that, then I'd rather him be minorly inconvenienced as an audience member, but it's not right. Yeah. It's not even a matter of like right and wrong. It's just like, it's not doing anything. Like it's not in the long run going to fix anything. I think that's how I feel sometimes with Reddit stories is like, we love this like vengeance, cathartic thing, but I'm like, all right, and then what happens? Yeah. And it's like, and now we're back to square one. And they're still bad and they're still doing their thing. Well, it is doing. It's making me laugh. It's making us laugh. Exactly. That's why I like it in movies and stuff. Like I like revenge like in a story, but like in real life, it is hard. You're not doing anything. You're doing it for yourself just to feel some enjoyment. Right. So some notes being like, hey, stop being racist. Maybe the Apple chips are, it's like a long con plan that eventually he's going to blow up and have a freak out over the Apple chips that's going to lead to him getting fired. Fair. Maybe. But I also understand, I will say at the end of it all, I understand like watching someone be awful and get away with it. You're just like, come on, like you want to like equal things out. So it's like, I'm going to steal his food. Yeah. Like I understand. I understand where people are coming from. I'm going to steal his fruit. Yeah. Okay. It's fruit. Fruit. When I eat potato chips, I'm like, I'm enjoying this root. Yeah, go for it, dude. You sound weird, but do that. Potatoes act, it's a starch. Apple chips are weird. Is this just a starch? It's not a root vegetable? Is potato a root vegetable? I don't know. I don't know. What is it? It can't just be, it's not just starch. It didn't grow from a starch. What is it as a plant? Oh, it's a tuber. Oh, it's a tuber. Okay, it's a tuber. What's that? I'm going to say, I'm enjoying this tuber right now as I'm eating chips. I'm enjoying a tuber. As I'm eating chips. Stuck in down my tuber. What the fuck is a tuber? We do say potato chips. Like that is the long, so like. I know, but I. Anything is a chip. I don't know. I'm going to think on this and have something to say in like 10 to 15 minutes. You know, this one's going to stick with me. Yeah. All right. Our next story. This comes from Ask a Manager. Okay. My coworker tickled another coworker and now there is chaos. Classic. We're having too much fun. Classic. My company has had a relatively informal, somewhat relaxed working environment in the past where colleagues generally got along well and we had a decent time together, even while working hard. Unfortunately, that balance has recently been upended in the department I work in. Two weeks ago, my coworker, Rachel kicked the power strip under the desk in her cubicle, so she slipped off her heels and crawled under to pop it back in. The young woman in the cubicle behind her, Monica, had a serious lapse in judgment at this point. She knelt down and slipped an arm around Rachel's ankles when she was vulnerable and began tickling her feet. It was an unusual moment to say the least and reactions range from amusement to mild horror. It's disgusting. It's curling up into a ball. I was envisioning tickling like ha ha ha, like whatever, but like, oh, someone was like, yeah. If you're going to go to tickle your coworker and the feet are the first thing you go for, you're not touching someone's bare feet. You should never tickle a coworker. But if the story was like, oh, you came up behind someone you know and like kind of grab their midsection or something. No! I'm just saying, you should never do it, but that's less freaky to me than while someone is on the ground going and grabbing their foot. This is like, oh, they're in a vulnerable situation where they're crawling under a desk. And you're grabbing them like a Stephen King monster. Like, holy shit, dude. Hey, you're under the desk. What if when Dina lobbed at you, she was like, got your neck. And he was a lobbed. Tickle, tickle. If you asked Monica, she would say she only had a light hold to avoid getting kicked during a playful moment that went too far. If you asked Rachel, she'd say she was rendered largely immobile and humiliated. I didn't have the best view, but it looked to me as the reality was closer to Rachel's side. Our manager, Phoebe, rushed in after several seconds of laughing slash shouting to break it up. It was a good thing she was there because I thought for sure that Rachel was going to slug Monica otherwise. This person watches friends, Rachel Monica Phoebe. Okay, cool. Phoebe walked Monica to HR and we wondered if Monica was done for. Apparently they allowed her to remain with the company but told her she'd be dismissed if she put one toe out of line. Heh. That's what it says. It says, it says, heh. I don't know the details, but I do know that Rachel was furious that the girl wasn't fired. Since that point, she has done everything she can to make Monica so unhappy that she feels compelled to quit. From passive aggressive emails to trying to rally coworkers to petition management to let her go, to bringing up the incident, as it's come to be called, at every available opportunity. As a result, Rachel is becoming difficult to work with and Monica is becoming a basket case. It's gotten to the point where yesterday I talked to Monica because I felt sorry for her. I'd heard her crying in the ladies room that morning, only to have Rachel snarl at me later for trying to be friendly. I'm fairly certain that Phoebe knows what's happening but is hesitant to address the issue with Rachel since she was the original victim. Phoebe is also rather hands off in management style, so that isn't helping the situation. The environment is becoming increasingly uncomfortable and our department being split on what they thought Monica should have been let go from the start hasn't helped. And I can sense people starting to take sides. Any advice would be appreciated. Whoa. That's crazy. What a wild situation. This is so interesting. I'm assuming for these managers, for these managers it's like this is not a situation you're prepped for. Like HR is like okay, like if someone makes you uncomfortable, like does something sexual or like flirts with you or something. Those are lines but it's like okay so I was crawling onto my desk and she grabbed me and tickled my feet. This is, this is. I'm like oh I'm sorry. What? Like oh yeah, our co-worker's a leprechaun. And so. Our co-worker's Elma. This is Sesame Street. Oh my god. This is Sesame Street. My co-worker's Elma. Oh my gosh. I mean yeah because at the end of the day, I guess with tickling there is no valid tent. Right? Like you don't go to harm. I need to see this because she's saying it's more like what Rachel said where she was rendered immobile. Like grabbed the feet and was tickling. What the fuck was going on? The way she described it was like she put one arm around the feet. So I'm imagining she's like on the ground and she scoops her arm and then is grabbing her feet. She headlocked her legs. She headlocked her legs and is tickling her feet. Is this happens to me? I'm fucking losing it. I'm running up to the building. She's like hell yeah brother. Imagine going home and you're like how's your day at work honey? Like I got tickled. A lady grabbed my legs fully. In what world? And tickled me. Do you see someone like oh I have to fix the outlet and go there's my opportunity to grab her by the leg. That's weird dude. I'm going to start threatening people with that. Like if Spencer's being asked on me like bro I'm going to tickle you. That's going to make you look so bad. Pop those shoes off. I'm going to tickle your feet. But it's like she had to take her, it's not a situation where they were like laughing and playing. It was like oh shit like I knocked off the power. Let me take off my heels and I'm like that's a very vulnerable situation. And I think it's hard for me to picture because we do such silly stuff on the regular here. I don't like that. Well no but I'm like this wasn't a silly situation. They're not performing. I'm crawling under my cubicle. She's probably not wearing clothing where she feels comfortable doing that. And then someone else wraps and is tickling. I'm like yeah it kind of is fireable. I'm like the more I'm thinking about it I'm like yeah I don't know how you reconcile this without firing them. How long do you think was the wind up on this? Like she looks over, sees the heels coming off and is it like a little like. You see Rachel foaming at the mouth. Yeah. Or is it like she sees and she's like alright finally. How instant was it? Monica was the tickler. Rachel was the one who got tickled. So Monica was the one who saw the feet and was just like oh and like had to tickle. Okay you're Monica in your new job interview. Oh so I saw you were at Brother and Will's accounting and you left after two years what was that? Oh yeah it was great. I had a great time there. I had to left it was just this little you know I took some steps that they disagreed with as a company and you know. I think it was a creative. I don't think you should have been fired. I think you're doing a great job. You tickled. I tickled a co-worker. So yeah well so what happened was my friend she kicked off the power and she had to take off her heels to crawl under her desk. And so I think in this industry when we see opportunities we have to take them and so I scooped up her legs with one arm like a sailor and I tickled them you know like Macho Man Randy Savage. And then naturally there was some resentment there. Like how do you ever get hired again if you got fired for tickling? You just don't bring that up. Calling up your previous guy like your new company calling up as a reference. Like yeah so why did you end up parting ways with her? She put someone's legs in a headlock and tickled her. You wouldn't believe it she was tickling everyone. I do think it's one of those situations. I don't like to use this unless it's like really clear. If Monica was a dude fired like full on like so she needs to be fired the same way and treated the same way because that is a wild thing to do and I think it's because it's tickling we're being like oh it's tickling. No it's grabbing someone's body. I'm not like grabbing someone and like holding them. I'm like that's kind of like a very forceful move. It's very invasive. So very clearly Monica misread their relationship and friendship. It's just some of those things where it's like hey man at work no matter how friendly you are with someone there's ground rules right. Like that's and that's why like I'm sure like you know romantic relationships in the workplace and friendships in the workplace it's like hey but you just keep those boundaries. Just keep it like hey we're at work we don't do that at work. Yeah even outside of work I don't think you grab bodies. Yeah well yeah. I don't think I've ever tickled my friends. I want to go so far and be like I think we should stop tickling children when they're born so we stop tickling as a whole. You think tickling should be done with. Yeah. I would love for someone in the comments to tell me if their life was improved by tickling because I can't think of anyone who was. It yeah. No. That's a fair. My brother used to tickle me until I couldn't breathe and it was really scary. Tickling I think is is like. That sounds awful. I'm sorry. Most of the times that I think of tickling it is a form of bullying when you're a kid. Yeah I do remember tickling my brother and his hell funny but. You're like actually wait a minute. That shit was funny as far. My brother would scream really high pitch and his shit was funny. TLDR the ass manager responded and here are the main points. The manager doesn't know if it's a fireable offense especially if Monica's had no other problems in the past. There needs to be a serious you cannot touch a co-worker ever again and there will not be another warning conversation. However Phoebe the manager needs to sit down and have a talk with Rachel and say that she understands her feelings but we have to keep a professional environment. The reality is if Monica continues to work there they can't allow one employee to bully another. Maybe moving desks will help the situation. I've got a pitch. Not a real one but I've got a funny one. If the manager comes in goes okay this situation this situation is fucked. Monica what the hell were you doing? You tickled you grabbed Rachel and you tickled her that's not cool. You said it would be funny. It's not cool but here's the situation. Rachel you're allowed to tickle Monica at some point and you do not have to give her warning at any point. So Monica watch your back. What a surprise tickle time. When you least expect it. I don't know if I'll be able to focus on my work. You're going to have to try. Just standing over the cubicle wall looking down. Every now and then Monica just turns and just across the way Rachel is just like and lowers down. And then like this is like nightmare fuel but Monica is in the bathroom and also she just sees steps outside the stall and they just stop and then they just move again. And then they just get their big red shoes. She just comes to work dressed as a clown. Oh God. It's not a real solution. Okay comments. I can't imagine ever wanting to touch my coworkers bare feet. Ew. Someone said Monica should have known better. Do not touch your coworkers like that but management well and truly fucked up this entire thing from top down. If Rachel ended up leaving soon after I'd have fully understood. Someone said I'm trying to wrap my brain around why anyone would think even in the most relaxed casual work environment that it would be okay to engage in a tickling moment with a coworker. No matter how casual we're talking. Yeah. Someone said management really dropped the ball here either fire her, Monica outright or apply some authority to manage the situation. Yeah. It's certainly like their response makes you not feel safe in that work environment. Because like I'm based on like how OP is writing this and like the reactions from coworkers on like this. I think if I saw this I'd be like oh this was bad. I think like reading it and hearing tickling. It's hard for me not to associate it with like me as a kid like with tickling. I think seeing it would scar me. I'm like I think I would not be able to function. And I'm also thinking about all the insane shit we do here at Smosh nobody has ever tickled another person here at Smosh. If it wouldn't fly here then. If it's not flying here it is not flying in a regular workplace. I just yeah I can't imagine tickling another adult let alone in the workplace. I wouldn't be able to look them in the eyes. I just like ah. I think it's like just the word tickle. Yeah. For sure. It's the finger movement too. Like the fact that this is the primary motion for tickling. It really is like the creepiest things that we the creepiest thing that we societally like aren't looking down upon enough. It's kind of fucking crazy. Yeah. It is yeah update. Five months later. Whoa. We get an update. On the tickle. On the tickle. On the tickle store. This is fucking rad. First and foremost I want to thank you for taking the time to craft a thought for response to my letter. Monica the tickler left the company last week. I don't know all the details but I reached out and she said that she in management came to an understanding but wouldn't say more and I didn't push. She was a middle child in a large family that showed a lot of physical affection and tickling wasn't something vicious or mean as far as she was concerned. And it was probably that background that contributed to her lack of judgment. I won't make excuses for her actions but I really feel bad for her and hope she finds another position and that she can learn from her mistake instead of being punished for it further. She is clearly an extrovert and feeling cut off from people and caught in an atmosphere of hostility and isolation really affected her though how much pressure was from Rachel and how much if any came from higher ups I couldn't say. I offered to have coffee and catch up and if she takes me up on that I might have more info in the future. As for Rachel, once Monica was gone some of my coworkers expected her to gloat or strut around but she's been awfully subdued. She doesn't talk much about anything except work even inconsequential things. Perhaps that will change but it's as if she didn't know how to react once she got what she wanted. As far as I know our manager never confronted her though I won't swear to that. Things seemed to be getting back to normal otherwise. Our boss brought some treats and we did a couple of fun group exercises and people have relaxed a bit. I'm wary of how quickly things can get deeply uncomfortable. Thank you again for your time and your advice. I'm sorry but the beginning of that is so like Monica the tickler. It's like a Dark Souls boss. It's like MOLOG the bloodthirsty. It's like Monica the tickler. Monica tickler of feet. Oh God. So Rachel was feeling weird when Monica left? Yeah it's just kind of like oh wow she's gone. Yeah. Because you have to feel I would assume no matter how justified it is you have to feel weird that someone got fired. Got fired for that. You kind of feel responsible but you were just there. That's hard. It's also tough. It's got to be a weird situation when whether she left the company because of the situation or she was fired or whatever that it was a one time situation. And it just like that. Because like if someone's doing a pattern behavior it's like oh this is who they are and they are doing this and I. She's a tickler. I want them gone. It's like one time thing. It's got to be like I would feel I know and I'm not saying this is right or wrong. I would feel guilty. No for sure. Some like oh this one time slip up no matter how wild it was but still it happened. It's like clearly the workplace could not get past it. Yeah. And then your boss is like I brought cookies. I brought cookies. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Man what a it's these situations that just ride the fence on things you've never heard. This literally Sesame Street. It is Sesame Street. Cookie Monster Elmo. Cookie Monster Elmo. It's a treats right he brought a treat or something. I guess cookies. Yeah. Or like cookies. Slices of apples. I would love that. Hey. Yeah as a slice. The the count. Slice apple slices. The count. The count. The count dude. Yeah. Another one. Maybe it's an accounting firm. Our next story also comes from Ask a Manager. My employees played a horrible prank on a co-worker. What do I do now? I'm writing seeking advice as to how I as a manager can handle the aftermath of a joke gone wrong. The joke never should have been played in the first place but that ship has sailed. I managed four reports and two of them made another think $50,000 had gone missing and she was being arrested for stealing it. My other report was not involved at all. They went so far as to get one of their wives to pretend to be a police officer there for the arrest. The one who was accused wept so hard she vomited. She was adamant she didn't do it and asked to phone someone to go stay with her sick mother while she was in custody. It was only then she was let in on the joke. She has not returned since it happened and will not answer calls or letters. I am furious. Their joke was unacceptable and if I had known what they were planning I would have shut it down. I don't have the power to fire them or I would have already. I have no clue what they were thinking. They say it was intended to be hilarious, not mean. I don't know of any trouble before this and all of my reports seem to get along. The one they played the joke on has only worked here for a few months and is fresh out of school while my other three reports have worked here for anywhere between six to nine years and have all been on this team for over five years. That is so awful. Hey, we're going to play a prank on you where we ruin your life. Yeah, we're going to convince you that your life is ending. Impersonating a federal officer? Yeah, that is a crime. They did commit a crime. This is. Hey, what's all we say on every episode where we have prank? What is a prank? What the hell is this and what's it for? Especially because they don't even know them that well. This is not, I'm like, okay, if you did it on someone you've worked with for five years, there's a little more like, oh, you understand each other, you understand their sense of humor. This is someone brand new and you all pulled a prank where. That's so sad. This is like hazing, you know, and like a really extreme awful like, yeah. It's also the thing where, you know, because you think it's real at first, like, okay, so she really legitimately experienced being told that she embezzled $50,000 and is about to go to jail. Like that's a real experience she has. Then she's told it's a prank, but in her brain that was still real. So she cried so hard she vomited. You can't just be like, oh, you guys got me. It's like, no, your body's still going through that shock. Yeah. Now I feel like especially, you got to have a sense of maybe in the moment figuring out that it's not, because I mean, they let it go on long enough that she called someone to take care of her mother. What stage of this prank is are you. Do you go like, like what? When she barfs? Like what do you, or when she starts sobbing that much? I think you have to be like, okay, reading the room here, maybe we let her know. Yeah. Someone did show up. The wife showed up for the arrest. And stealing $50,000, that's a felony, like a massive felony. You're not like talking like a small little crime. This isn't like, oh, you got a parking ticket. Ha, ha, psych. It's like, no, you're going to prison. Damn. This isn't funny. No, most pranks aren't. We have not read a prank on this show that I thought was funny. They've all been just, hey, an awful thing is happening to you. It's just not good. Like what the fuck are you doing? That makes me like, oh my God, I can't imagine. Because it seems like, yeah, this is like her first job. Yeah. Kind of in this industry, whatever, like very new. Probably very excited to be, you know. I'd rather have someone rip off my cowboy boots and tickle my feet than be told that I've stolen $50,000 and the police are here to arrest me. But honestly, at the end of the day, if you fucking even make a joke about it. If you reach your hand out, I should- Trevor, don't! Oh no! Oh no! Oh, they're falling off! But I'll say about the tickling and about this, it's not mutually fun for both parties. It's only fun for one. Yeah. It's not- Like why are you getting enjoyment out of this? Like why are you getting enjoyment out of like telling someone their life is over? How bored do you have to be at your freaking life to make someone cry so hard they vomit? It's a person- In the name of fun. It's a person you don't know that well too. Yeah. Go home. Read a book. Comments. Yeah, I got the part where she was pleading for time to make arrangements for someone to take care of her mom and just lost it. There aren't enough adjectives in the dictionary to cover this one, but I agree with everyone that's been used in this thread. This was vicious heartless sociopathic torture. Someone said impersonating a police officer is a class A misdemeanor in my state. In some states it's a felony. Either way, the fake officer could be subject to fines, jail time, or both. Wonder if your team member's wife has some spare time, a lot of cash, and a good lawyer. Because your former employee has at least two of those things. But someone replied to that saying, but the employee can't prosecute anyone for impersonation of an officer. All she can do is make a police report. The most jurisdictions I know would not prosecute someone for this. Someone said, every time I think an office prank story can't be topped, there's a new letter. I used to think the guy who locked a coworker on a balcony was the worst. This is like 1,000 times meaner than that. I hope the OP can get rid of these people and figure out how to do the right thing by the harmed employee. Horrible. The OP that's writing this as a manager said they don't have the ability to fire these people, but they certainly have the ability to talk to someone who has the ability to fire them or figure out something because this is so bad that this employee is going to be scarred forever. Update. One day later. The incident had happened almost three weeks before I sent in my question. Because there was speculation on the possible dynamics in several of the comments, all three persons involved, both pranksters and the pranky, are women. The pranksters are both in their late 20s and the pranky is in her mid 30s. One of the pranksters is the same ethnicity as me, Chinese American, and the other prankster and the pranky are both white. One of the pranksters is gay, the other prankster and the pranky are not. As far as I am aware, myself and the three of them are all the same religion. Anglican. A lot of information. Here's our addresses and our social security notes. Clearly in the previous red thread, people were probably asking for like, is there cause for discrimination? Like what's the dynamics? Got it. Got it. So clearly that's not seeming to be pointing towards that. The only difference is, pranky is new, slightly older. Some people have been working there for years. My other report was on a two week vacation at the time and he had no knowledge of or part in the prank. There were no other witnesses besides my three reports. The wife who said they were a police officer there to arrest the employee was not wearing any kind of uniform and she didn't enter the building. She was standing by her navy blue car outside the building on the public street. The pranksters gestured to her out the window when they told the pranky she was police and she gestured for the pranky to come outside. She never spoke to the pranky. So this prank happened in the office. They had someone's wife drove to their place of work to just stand outside. The amount of effort. Like get a hobby. How does not a single person like sit down for a second and be like, is this a good idea? We don't have to do this. Our day, we can have a normal ass day. Like what if instead of driving to my workplace, we've got, I don't know, ice cream or something. Dude, ice cream sounds awesome. Your wife has a day off. Your wife is chilling. Like what? You're having her drive to your place of work to stand there. Your unemployed friend on a Tuesday. Yeah. Since she never dressed as or told anyone she was an officer, there's no way she can be charged with impersonation. The officers at the real police station I went to, the lawyer I spoke to about this and the company lawyer looked at me like I had two heads when I brought up impersonation charges. They all agreed what happened was awful, but the wife of the prankster did nothing illegal and the prankster pointing at her once and saying she was an officer also is not illegal. The prankie was also never handcuffed, touched, taken anywhere or stopped from leaving. So no crime was committed there as per the police and the lawyers. My reports don't have access to money to steal, making the theft allegation part of the prank baffling. But I understand why the prankie was scared given how new she was to our workplace. We don't deal with money in our work. We work in the compensation and benefits section of HR. We tell employees what benefits and other compensations they are entitled to. They work in HR. They work in HR, which does add a layer to the search. We do not have any parts in administering these benefits and we don't work with the books, accounts or payroll. All of that is done out of a different office. My boss, the executive director and our legal division know what happened. Multiple voicemails and letters to the prankie from me, the director and legal have gone unanswered and the letters were marked as return to sender. Her LinkedIn profile shows the job she had before and when she was in school, the school she went to and a current job that is with another company. The company I work for is not mentioned on her profile anywhere and anyone from the company who tries to reach out is not responded to. I have accepted she wants to be left alone and the company lawyer advised all contact attempts to cease. The executive director's idea of disciplining my reports was to give them a talking to slash lecture and to send a memo division wide saying no pranks of any kind are permitted at work. I'm not giving context since no one else knows what happened. I am going to resign. I wasn't sure at first but the more I found out about what happened, the more angry I got. I was also angry about not being able to fire the pranksters. I promised my other report a good reference if he ever needs it because he didn't do anything. I was not sure about resigning without another job offer but my girlfriend told me I would feel better if I did and we could make it work on her income until I found one. So I made the decision to leave. I appreciate your answer to my question, Allison. I am grateful to you and see I am not wrong to be angry at what happened. Thanks so much. Wow. Wow, so bad. They're like, I'm going. But it is also, you see something that bad happen and you see no action taken. You're like, well, I'm not safe here. Like if something bad happens to me at this job, I'm on my own. So I should get out of here. Especially the people that report to you. You now have to like tell these people what to do and like work with them on a regular basis. And it's like, you just know that they're awful. Like that they just did this awful thing and you're never going to be able to look at them without thinking of that. Right. Wow. I'm glad OP is even taking care of themselves. Like it just, like, yeah, in an environment like that's not good for you. No. Well, dang, that's it. No more updates. Okay. Time for our final story. And this comes from malicious compliance. Uh-oh. Which I love. I love some malicious compliance. It's the best. You demanded my entire team be at the office for the 4th of July. Fine. Enjoy paying for the office party. Hell yeah. Okay. Uh, little warning up front. If you haven't eaten, this story is going to make you hungry. I haven't eaten. I haven't eaten. I haven't eaten. Lunch is after this. I was going to say, what a crazy thing to read right before lunch. So this starts on Monday the 13th of June. As I receive an email from a VP not over in my department, our bad VP, I am told that my team will be required on the 4th. I politely tell them, no, that our team has been scheduled this day off and people already have plans. My team is the IT team. And as many of you know, the IT team gets shafted every time it can get shafted by any company. So over the course of the week, I let my team know what is happening. I let them know I have been reaching out to higher ups to fix it. I also tell them that if their plans are ruined, I will make it right at work. Over the course of three meetings, it starts to look like things will not go my way. In response, I sent an email to the CEO of the company. All of my higher ups knew I was going to do this and said I should do this as he is very family oriented and that he would not allow anyone to work on a national holiday. Well, he is on vacation in the Bahamas until the 6th. But his assistant informed me he would look at this after he gets back. Repeatedly, Sam's head into desk. So I tell everyone that it will be work from home and that we will be setting my cell phone as priority in the call routing. Meaning, I would get most of the calls. To be honest, I was expecting almost zero calls. Especially since I was asked to send out a notification that IT support would cover the 4th of July. I never sent that email out. A day later, I was given another outrage. I was told in an email that my employees would be required to be at the office and no one was allowed to work from home. They would be checking the door badgins to verify we were at the office. I asked why in an email and they said that they wanted to make sure no one was playing video games at work. We normally work from home about two thirds of the week and video game playing is a normal occurrence at work. Hell yeah. Us too. Hey, Ben there. Hey, Ben there. So I walked into the person's office after a very long conversation where she was losing the logic war with me. She told me that it's just IT. You guys don't have lives. She said that? That's a vice president telling me that it's crazy. The vice president told him it's just IT. You guys don't have lives. What? Wow. No, I am not kidding you. This is exactly what they told me. I reported this to my VP who said, I will take care of this. It likely won't be until after the 4th, so get creative. I know this man well. We have worked together a long time and get creative is code for corporate fuckery. I asked the person. He's like, light it up. I asked the person requiring us to be at the office if they cared if we had an office party. They said no, as long as it did not interfere with the call flow. They even suggested using my new company card to pay for it. Go wild. Pro tip. Never tell me to go wild. At this point, it was Tuesday the 21st. I let everyone know what's up, but that I have something planned. I asked who had things planned for that day. Two people told me they were planning to shoot off fireworks with their family, but the rest were planning barbecues with friends. I write up an email to the VP over my department and the bad VP. I tell them all that I let everyone know. We all were expected to work until 8pm Monday. Per the conversation with the bad VP, I will be having an office party as a sort of sorry to the guys and gals who got shafted by this decision. The bad VP replied again. Thank you for your understanding. Also, yes, I would expect an office party if I had to work on the 4th of July as well. Go fuck yourself. So go wild and enjoy your time. Use your new company credit card if you need to cover a few expenses. Also, I should not have to remind you or anyone else, no fireworks or alcohol on company property. So now it is time to tell you about my office. See a while back, the IT team was moved from the main corp office and into a smaller building by itself. It has a nice gaming break room, a decent sized gym, and a full on drink bar. Soft drinks mind you, no alcohol at work. Outback is a big patio that crosses county lines as soon as you cross a small creek. A creek that just so happens to have a footbridge over it leading to an empty field. I start making phone calls. Perfect for fireworks. Perfect. Monday, June the 25th, I call everyone into an hour early meeting that morning. I explain to them all that I will be making it right. I asked everyone to invite their friends and family to the office. No supplies will need to be brought by anyone. I tell them that this will be non-alcoholic, but that I will be planning something for everyone. I told them to expect all food to be provided and they don't need to bring anything unless they want to bring some fireworks. I.e. they won't have to spend a dime. The fourth comes and the entire day we did absolutely no work. No tickets, no calls came in. Well, seven calls did come in, but from the same person, the bad VP. She was calling to make sure we were manning the phones. All of us were playing video games or watching movies. 6pm rolls around and everyone was told that the food was ready. People were expecting hot dogs, hamburgers, maybe a bratwurst or two. What they got was a full on barbecue feast with pizza and other foods. There was smoked brisket, spare ribs, smoked sausage, smoked turkey, both kinds of tater salad, coleslaw, green beans with bacon and onion, potatoes all grottin. Yes, the original potato chip. Pizza from two different places, excellent hamburgers and bratwurst hot dogs. On the dessert side was cake, very good cookies, four different kinds of pie and about two pounds of fudge. Families and friends started showing up at around six to six fifteen-ish. Some brought alcohol, but I told them they would need to leave that in their cars as I was not that crazy. Some were not too happy about that, but agreed as it was free dinner for random strangers. So let me set the scene for you. I am out there with all calls routed to my cell phone and everyone is just having a good time. We have a ton of people there just enjoying the fun night, chatting about random stuff, eating the food and occasionally lighting off some sparklers or throwing firecrackers into the stream. It's not stocked and only one foot deep. My VP, not the bad VP mind you, showed up with his family and brought some water balloons for the kids and man children. On eight thirty-ish it's getting dark and people want to shoot off more than the simple sparklers and fireworks we had been using. The VP over the IT department had everyone cross the footbridge, over counting line and off company property mind you and we set up a big wooden board using it as our launchpad. We fired off what we had for an hour or two and sort of just hung out for a little while. At around this time people were tired and ready to go home. I told people to take home leftovers within reason. We all clocked out at eight and no one left until about ten thirty p.m. The bad VP did call once more while we were out back at the party. It was seven fifty and she called asking for a status update. My exact words were, well you were the only one to call us today, the rest of us are on the back patio enjoying the fourth of July, shin dig. She simply acted like my boss and said, as long as no alcohol or fireworks are on company property I do not care. We ate roughly half of the food catered, the rest was taken home, a small group volunteered to stay behind to clean up including my VP. We had a funny conversation about how this will make waves with the bosses but he said he had my back and asked how much this cost. I just gave him a sideways look which made him laugh. Tuesday morning I submitted the expense report to my VP. This email would inevitably make its way over to the bad VP and up the chain to the CIO of the company. It would be a bad idea to give out the exact cost of the party mind you but I can tell you that because of this fourth of July party new rules were put into place. Many expenses of over $4,000 or more must be approved by the direct supervisor, VP over the department and the full expense report must be sent to the financial department for review after the fact. Hint the party cost over $6,000. The barbecue was the most expensive part. I did not order from a low or mid tier place. The place I order from has consistently been on the top 10 in the DFW listing for the last 30 years. I ate at that place so much I made friends with the owner. The best barbecue I've ever had. The pies and cakes were custom made by a bakery and the cookies were made by a boutique cookie place. I had 10, 12 packs of Coke, Coke Zero, Dr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper Zero, Pepsi and Pepsi Zero. I bought five pepperoni, five sausage, five cheese, two Hawaiian, 55 foot tacos, 50 hot dogs and three cheeseburger pizzas from one place and nearly the same number from another place. Excluding the cheeseburger ones I subbed out those for a different specialty pizza from the other place. The burgers were from an excellent burger place that did catering. I know that owner well. He brought his kids for the night of fun after he heard what was going to be happening. He was also the one who brought the brought dogs as he recently added those to his menu. This was the most expensive office party in the history of the company. The only things more expensive than this were some business meetings that the CEO rented private rooms in high-end restaurants for. As for the CEO, he was outraged. Not at the cost of the party, mind you. He knew that the party would not have been necessary if people had been allowed to go home. He was outraged that IT was the only group required to work on that day. When I submitted the log showing how we received no real phone calls, no service requests and that we basically watched movies slash played video games during our shift, he had heard enough. He apparently sent out a scathing email about work-life balance and the importance of our holidays to every upper management. It was kind of funny as people wanted me to get in trouble for what I did, but the reality is other departments have done similar things in the past just not on the scale that IT did it. The bad VP was admonished quite effectively and sent me an apology email. I forwarded it to the team with a strong hint to not reply. Then my VP let the CIO and the CEO know what the bad VP said. You guys don't have lives. The bad VP did actually confirm she said it in a meeting with her EVP. It did not go over well. I have never heard people yelling in an office meeting like that before. The CEO of the company came to our office and yelled at her. Not sure if she was fired, but she is not at work today. In active directory, she does not have the down arrow of death, so not 100% what happened to her. I know she lost whatever clout she had at this company with her attitude. If anything more happens, I will update. But so far, it looks like the fallout from this is that I caused a new rule to be put in place about how much you are allowed to spend at one time. The bad VP may or may not be let go slash forced to resign. I know she got yelled at. Strangely, there is now no longer any pushback for my bid to get everyone back to working from home. Edit, please stop asking me where the restaurants are. I'm not doxing myself. Oh my God. Outstanding work. Outstanding. That was a book. Yeah. And you killed that. Oh my God. That worked out well on all fronts. Perfectly, yeah. That was spectacular. Kind of like zero consequences for that, which is pretty awesome. This does walk that revenge line we were talking about, right? Where there is some revenge here. Well, this is malicious compliance is this weird thing where it's like, all right, you're telling us to do this. I kind of have no problem with it because I'm like, you're... We're following the rules. This VP clearly like, this is just fun for her that she gets to have power over people. The fact that she's calling seven times just to be like, you're at work. You guys are at work. Like something's wrong. Why do you care so much? Checking the badge, check in, like the logs. There's smoke where there's fire. She's freaking out because she knows what she did was wrong. And she needs to make sure they're there for a reason. This was a power trip. I don't know any other explanation other than it's a power trip. Yes. Like you're calling at 7 p.m. to get a status report. To make sure they're still at work when you know they've received no calls that day. I'm like, you just wanted to send them on there. I'm like, what barbecue are you at, lady? But no, like I'm like, oh, if I'm losing my fourth of July, we're throwing a fucking party. And we're following the rules. This is being resourceful. Six grand. Over six grand on the food and drinks alone. No alcohol. I know, that's a lot of soda. Alcohol is where you rack your prices up. The menu sounded a little bit like a Mr. Beast video. Yeah. 100 pizzas. No. 50. Truly silly levels. It must have been a rager. Yeah. There have been so many people there though. Because I mean, how many, did it say how many people were like in the department? There was like, I don't know, but they have their own building. Yeah, they have their own building and like a bunch of friends and family being invited. Even the chefs bringing their kids. Come on. The fact that restaurants were like, whoa, we're going to this party. And then only eating half the food. They had to have been so... Oh my God. Texas barbecue. You're like, what are you doing this July 4th? I'm hanging out with a bunch of IT people. They party horn. Yeah. And there's not even alcohol there. Yeah. And it's going to be a rager. There's Pepsi Zero, Pepsi Diet Pepsi, Coke Zero, Vanilla Coke. Comments, can I work for you? This is fucking magical. Someone said, everyone wants a day off to spend time with friends and family relaxing. I'm in IT and spend most of my time on the computer at working at home. I still had the 4th of July off and spent the day hiking and just enjoying life to its fullest. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, full stop. We all have lives outside of work. Just because I enjoy video games doesn't make my time worth less than someone who enjoys watching football. OP, mad respect for how you handled that. Someone said, this is how to be a manager. Have your teams back. I just wrote in my annual review how much it means to me that my manager takes my physical and mental health seriously. Tell him I can be reached by phone on vacation. No you cannot. Direct anyone who bugs you to me. Being burnt out from debugging assembly code and binary data files for most of the day, maybe you should take a walk for the rest of the day. It's not good to be sitting too long, you know. It genuinely makes me feel okay to say yes to new projects and to keep pushing and expanding my expertise. I love my job and my manager is a huge part of that. Yeah, I mean the VP is a bad VP not because they're just being a bad person, but also they are, they are, they cost the company money and they're absolutely killing like motivation. Yeah. They are doing bad things by business standards too. Yeah. And telling, telling you like, oh, IT people don't have lives. Like that's a crazy thing to say. What do you expect to happen? Yeah. What do you expect to happen there? Your IT department is one that you need to like be on their A game. Yeah. Yeah. RIT team rocks, we have two people. Lopati and Tim. They're the shit. Incredible. Yeah, if they stopped working here, nothing would happen. The building would blow up. Everything would blow up. There is a bomb that they have to keep diffusing every day. My favorite is when Tim's on set and you're like, oh, there's a slideshow in the programming. Hell yeah. There's going to be a transformer in this one. Yeah. Yeah. IT departments are huge for what we do. Anyways, that's it. Crazy group stories. Dude, we should, we should throw a $6,000 party. No. Okay. I won't do it without alcohol. I don't care how much barbecue there is. There's no alcohol. Not really a meatball. For Texas Barbecue, I don't need alcohol. If you tell me there's going to be a bunch of Texas Barbecue somewhere, I'm like, I'll show up. See, I'm like, have you had, have you had like genuine Texas Barbecue? I don't think so. Oh, dude, it's a game changer. Really? It is a full game changer. I luckily, the last time I had Texas Barbecue, I was in Austin and I was with Mythical Chef Josh. Yeah. Oh, so that's a crazy day. He ordered everything on the menu and he like, of course, like he orders everything. We eat everything. And then he's also like, oh yeah, the chef is letting us come back and check out the barbecue. Yeah, we like walked into the pit. Yeah. It's so cool. Big tank just in there. It was amazing. It's so cool. No, it's truly like unlike anything. Yeah. It's, it's the best. That beef cheek. Oh my God. You're eating things you've never heard of before. That beef cheek. That beef cheek burger. You're just having stuff that you're like, I guess I'm going to eat this and it's delicious. Oh well. I can't explain it. Well, tickle me fancied. Yeah. I'm not going to tickle you. Tickle me fancied. We're not going to tickle each other, but. Let's go to lunch. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready for lunch now. I am hungry. And I think I want to Coke Zero. Dude, I could go for a little Pepsi Max right now. Whoa. Max? What's Pepsi Max? All right. Crystal Pepsi's for everyone. Crystal Pepsi. Thank you both for being here. Thanks for having us. Yeah. You're good coworkers. Yeah. Thanks. And now I know that I'm not supposed to tickle my coworkers. So this was educational for me. Thank God we did this episode. Because I've thought about it before. So I'm glad I did it. Really close. Yeah. A couple times. Yeah. Well, it's not going to happen now. So don't worry. Don't stress. Thank you all for watching. Be kind to your coworkers. And we'll see you next Saturday. All right. Goodbye.