#Throwback Episode - w/ DJ Premier & Pete Rock | (Ep.68)

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. The idea was self-yars going on, bro. The dreamtest radio, but it's not. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey, Hank's agree to your boy in O.I. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up with DJEF and together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sport. Yummy. The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts. This is Dreamtestam, right away. Every day is New Year's Eve. Hey, Hank's agree to hook it up. This is your boy in O.I. What up with DJEF and the Dreamtestam, one of the fucking podcasts makes up! You got some of the present to you guys on behalf of CBS. Okay, okay. I'm guessing you don't know if they want to congratulate you on 25 million listeners. Wow. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. How's it going? I'm fucking sorry, I'm feeling bad. You knew it. You knew this was going down. You didn't tell me you found fucking guy. Hey, man, you know what? I'm really bad. That's a suck. 25 million. And we're doing the hip-hop. We're doing the hip-hop. So I would like to introduce. If you enter hip-hop. If this is something that you say you love. And this is something that say you adapted. And you don't know these two brothers. And you don't know how these brothers shape and molded the culture. For everything that you love right now. If it wasn't for these two people that stand beside me. And front of me, brother. When hip-hop is, is because of them. They single-handedly had their hands on the best artists ever. When you think about Elmatic. Think about Reasonable Doubt. Think about Biggie. They work with the three top of best. They continuously out here looking young. They out here. And then the beat battle had just took place. And a lot of people with Swiss beats, Biggie hit him up. And Bigger just blazed. But I don't know that these brothers have been doing this for years. For years they started it. And I am so proud to introduce and to represent people that I look up to personally. Pete Rock and motherfuckin DJ. We're there. You're listening brothers. Come and be honest. The fact that both of you brothers had worked on my favorite hip-hop album of all times. Which is Elmatic. Now I just want to take it from there. Because we had Q-tip on here. And I believe Q-tip, I think he said he suggested that he worked with them. Or so how did it go? Yeah. Was it large? Yes. Large professors. He, oh wow. He's the actual chief in command. It's a weed. He's the actual chief in command of Elmatic. Get the fuck out. So you telling me you never heard of this. Both of you brothers never heard of it. And the thing is back, you know, Queens artists, including yourselves. For one y'all rap longer than any other person. With no hooks and no break. You know what I'm saying? You're hand. That's true. You know, a lot of professors is something new y'all. Like he'd be like yo, like yo, like world, like yo. He'd do that for like 10 minutes before he'd say his sentence. And he's like yo, yo Prima got this dude named the rapper Nas. He was a Nas the way that we're talking about. So the rapper Nas. Oh, no. Prima. He was in the lyrics. Wait a minute. So he wasn't even Nas. Rapin Nas. Rapin Nas. He does it on panging out. He's like the rapper Nas. Yeah. So he was rapping big. That's just a thing. Yeah. That's a queen. That's a queen. And we got Pete Rock. I mean, we got Pamir. Drinking Jim Bean. Now there's mother. Yeah. He's like the rapper Nas. Yeah. So he was rapping big. Yeah. Drinking Jim Bean. Now there's mother. Yeah. You go check that out. You go check that out. You go check that out. I think it's a show I was doing an open one for me. Yeah. You go open it baby. This is shit. This is shit. This is shit. This is shit. You're just so y'all know. This is y'all know. Y'all been y'all personally raised me. They probably didn't know that. But it was so an honor to work with both of you brothers. You brothers are hip hop. When I think of hip hop, your name, I know both of your names start with Pete. It feels like your name should be A. You know when the first time I met you. D&D. Let's go to D&D studio. At the front door. You know what he said? Hey y'all, for me it was something man. Yo, my name was Jose Luis. I know. I'm like, and the thing is, the LA, LA record, it come out. I'm going to play it. Yeah. I'm doing you guys. You guys got to do? Yeah, I do. Oh, you okay. Let me go drink it. I'm going to do you as old man. Here you go. I know. I know. Are you going to experience it? Yeah, I'm going to do one whiskey or something. Yeah, I'll do the same. Oh, you just want to try it. One shot. One shot ain't going to go nobody. Yeah, you can. Give me that shot. And then you pour another one. Yeah. But the crazy thing is, when I heard LA LA open up blinds and Jose Luis got it. Yeah, that's how we do it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's like some noise for Pete Rock and Prima and Guns Dabbling. I used to hang in Queens with Flush. I heard you play a unreleased one that I really is on main. What's that unreleased Flush versus? Colder. That was worldwide remix. I never put out. And that beat. We got to do that. We got to do that. For you. I owe you a record for you. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. For you. I owe you. I'm also big. You are for plugging me into supreme. People don't know that Pete Rock was the person that plugged me in with supreme. Let's make some noise. You don't smoke, right? Yeah, I do. But there's not on camera. I did mine in 1992. So let's take it from the beginning. Still flow. Prima. How did you and Guru even meet? I met Guru because it goes back to 1987 and to 1988. My good friend who's still my man Carlos Garza in Houston, Texas. Help me get a job at a reference. Because you're from Texas. Yes, originally. Yes, and he's from Boston. I was so wild pitch records is a husband of white label shop. It's too fine. Was that search? Yes. And our search was later. Surge was later. It was just too fine in his wife. No one else. They had a rap promotion. Guru was a person that would go over to their house every day and listen to every demo they came in. They had a lot of tea already signed. It was Apache recipes. That's Apache's brother. Yeah. And a lot of tea did a lot of writing with a lot of tea for the flavor unit. And he had a record called this Cuscott flavor which was big in New York at the time. Right. That inputting on the hits. That's how 45 King came into doing the wild pitch work. And the chill Rob G came along who's also a part of a lot of tea screwing the flavor unit. And he got signed a wild pitch. Gangstar got signed after that in 1986. And so they had a record called the lesson. I wasn't in the group then. Gangstar goes to three different chambers. The first chamber was Big Shug and Guru named Gangstar. It was Big Shug and Guru and Guru was going to school at more house. Right. So they both from Boston right? Yeah. And it was Shug's brother Swav D. They were the first Gangstar. Then Swav D stepped out and it became two MC's. Daymond D's key, Vaguro, all the rounds. And it was Guru and then DJ Mike D. But he was called DJ Wanna Be Down. That's what I'm saying. But it's DJ won the number two. We got to bring that name back. Let it be and down. We want to be down. It was one of the number two that are being down. One to be down. So he has a brother named Gangstar T. You know what I'm saying? Who? Who should've said he'd be? Yeah. So all of that trickled down into the name of Shug and Guru originated Gangs. Big Shug. We talked about Shug. Yeah, everything. He's doing the things in movies now. He goes like, huh? Yeah, that's right. Working with Larry David, all that stuff. So from there, when Guru moved into New York, the rest of the members didn't go. Shug got locked up for a while. So now it's just Guru on his own. But anytime the work wouldn't involve any money, no one would come up to New York to help him do any movement around. Hopping around to get in the clubs, getting on radio. They weren't really getting radio played until they dropped their second single called Busta Moolboy, which is when I heard him. I was in New York at the time for the summer. And Red Alert was cutting it up. Molly Moll was cutting it up. And if they're playing it, I thought they were called GameStop. Because of his Boston accent, he's his gang star. I played Busta Mool. I played No. The knowledge. That's what you came in. Yeah, but this is right before. I don't think the intracant control was just about to stop bubbling. But before Magic left. And Chilli Q used to be up there and the Kevin K. So when you two were forced to be met, when I met with you, I met you at the Red Stronger Law. You were on the mic. Yeah, you had the Red Stronger go up. You said, oh, fuck that, but fuck that. Then he's like, now keep it going. Yeah, he'll keep going. He'll keep going. So from that point, those three artists were the labels. Here Rob G, Lattee, and Gangstar. And 45 King was the only producer that worked after that. After Donald D produced the first single. So from there, Guru used to go through a box of the demos and every time Mel came in, because back then, it was about Mel and your stuff was walking it in. It was called Snuggle My Demo Over To Stoop. Just beats your beat. I was in a group called MC's in Control and Texas. And my MC was from Boston. His name was Top Ski. Top Ski. We're a... We're a... We're a... We're a... Kenoa. And Top Ski... Sugar Pop. And with the Guru's. And Stanley... They heard my demo, but they didn't like my MC. They're like me. And they were like, we really want you. But I was like, I'm... Basically, you're saying they like the beats. Right. And my scratch. And they were bugging off my scratchers. Scratchers used to scratch. So I didn't really want to leave my group. So I said, I can't do it. I got to stay and stay doing what I do. Tom Paz, my MC, pretty much got frustrated after going to shop and other deals. We couldn't get a deal. So he said, I'm joining the military. I thought he was just bluffing. Right. One day, we had to house shop to Gordon Franklin, the whole Franklin family, Gary, Art and recipes, and Marilyn Franklin. We were standing at that house after we were going to college together. That's how I met them. And next thing you know, the bell rings on a weekend. And the recruiting officer at the door. Yeah, man. He's out. He said, yeah, I'm looking for theater Campbell. I'm like, for what? He said, he's joined the Navy. And I thought he was lying. I'm like, yo, Tom, we're on the basement. Because we all live together. And he's like, yo, I'm out. He has his backpack already. I'm like, how long did you join? He said, for four years. Is it MC? Yeah. He said four years. And Gordon met Tom everything. I'm like, four years. I'm not going to wait for you in four years. He said, yo, I'm out. Do your thing. And that's not called back to Wild Pitch. He said, yo, my man left. So now I'm available. So to know he lived in the group. Because that's my front man. And the group's like I want you in the group. So that's how I joined Gangstar. And then from there, uh, Goose down there. He found my tape. And Law for Necess tape. That's how Law for Necess got signed to Wild Pitch. And that's how I ended up. That's the first artist I ever produced. Was Law for Necess? Was Law for Necess? Besides Gangstar. Right. I'm going to make a voice for that. Yeah, that's great. Let's go. I think we're like, just mad. Law is such a nice thing. It's like that. Okay, so now, Pete, how did you meet C.R.? Yeah, I went to school together. School together. How did you go? I met Doosoon Street guys. And, you know, when I heard, you know, they was talking to rap or whatever. And when I heard his voice, in high school, we... Because he was always a producer? Yeah, well, in the hood. I started doing my high school parties, and I became a DJ in my brother. And my brother's, you know, flocked to. So I met C.R. He had a distinctive voice. We did like 50, 60 demos in my basement. Damn, four tracks. Four tracks. Four tracks. And you guys signed off that shit. I mean, he was taking like, dancing to the drummers beat and making songs. You know, taking the break beats that, or man Lenny from the Bronx is pulling. Street beat. Now it would make beats out of them shit. It's normal shit and then... Because my brother is like... The Bronx being a place of hip hop. Birthplace in hip hop. Right, right. My brother is like... He's cousin. He's his cousin. Yeah, so you had to have hip hop just as... You know, originally from the Bronx. Oh, got it wrong, bro. Like, you know, when I was young, I went to Bronx with him Park Not No. What was going on? You know what I'm saying? Oh, I know. As I've seen a bunch of cool doos, smoking, drinking, and listening to hip hop. Shit, happy. Then when I turned seven years old, I met James Brown. What? And I met that. Wow, that's going to change your life. You can get a new G-Rock. How you doing? Happy DJ cousin, right? Happy DJ cousin is here. It's my cousin, of course. Family. You know, I'm Pete. You know, I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. I was. I was Teddy Riley. I was in the studio. How we team? So now, let's take it. Let's take it to our own reminiscs, over you. Which is such an iconic song for him. Such an iconic song. But now, that is about an actual person, correct? Yeah, my man. Can we break that down? It's Troy, right? It was my tour. Happy Dean of Boys. Right. Him and Kid and Place road manager, playing around. You know, we saw he'd be on tour playing. I mean, and they were playing with him. And they were playing with empty guards, can't even throw them, throwing them, trying to hit each other. And you know, Mr. Steps, when he was at the edge of the stage, I didn't know. I didn't know. I was playing. And that caught me and started crying. And you know, the whole point, oh, fuck that. I don't even, today to this day, I don't even know how. I was able to listen to a record and make a beat because I was so distraught that I'm mad for. And the whole thing was, he was infamous in the hood. But you know how legendary that record is. I mean, that music. Yeah. So I'm getting into it. You know, you can do that, though. And when I found Sample, you know, I was with X-R-P, when he was in Queens. Wow. We were digging and I found a record. You know what I mean? And we, you know, took it home, fucked with it, you know. And next thing, you know, I put, you know, after the beat was made and everything like that, we got in the studio, King of the lyrics. Wow. And it was like, but he didn't have the beat. Like he already had the bronze rope, but he needed the beat to match the rhymes. Wow. And that's very, that's not easy to do. Yeah, that's magical for that to match up. That's magical. Yeah. So it melted right in and it was just like, kind of, classic like, it talked about his eye. Did you know, did you know that was going to be as classic as it is when you made it? When we, I had Charlie Brown from the decision of Super Junior. Oh, yeah. And he was there for a mix that, and we just called that cry. I just let it out. Like I didn't even care if he, you know, who was around him. Cause I was thinking about Troy. And he started crying. And then the engine is starting. And I said, I think we got shot. And I think, you know, the only thing I don't like about that record is that I wish I made it. This makes a noise. Oh, man. Oh, man. It's so, man. It's so, man. Wait, wait, wait. What are you going to say that's wrong about that? Oh, man, I've got to take it to one of my favorite games, It's not my thing, but I mean we all have ways of escaping and Music and drugs and drinking and sex and all that sports. It has always been in a twine But it's all about how strong your mind is or how weak your mind is always kept his strong mind to know how to Turn the switch off and get back to manage it properly To the good old day 93 into 94 down came I 94 song came I 93 but I mean those are the good old days of just Yeah, you know, you were tors before you go on the lab and start cooking something up and and even with them without I mean my my pro to still the same so thank goodness that it is because I'm still active Even though the work is still coming we're still active We still are addicted to making beats and performing and DJing we like we're happy But but master's seal was a really was a we was actually making it as a group To radio because we wasn't getting regular rotation that our radio has a hip hop group But like we always say we got platinum respect So we like them all the platinum artists are loving us, but we can't sell some on records But everybody that's platinum and selling millions of love gangsters We were like let's make a radio making fun of radio And I said I want to make something that sounds like you on the elevator going So that was my my mind state I want to make the records, you know, you know, you know elevators over here You're crazy I'm thinking about you logically found the record closest to what I'm going to have Oh my god, that's right, yeah Yeah, closest to what that's what it is. There's a lot of times I pre-heared the song and I'm looking for the stuff that matches my What I'm looking for that's why the drums music comforts what you know because I hate like you know what's going what knocks on this one I'm going to be on this one going so We can already know where we're gonna go with that producer talk He There's three people that really taught me how to get to the level actually four of the level that we're actually now I'll take anybody on our best He taught me how to filter Showbiz D-I-T-C Showbiz, they taught me how to Choppy, I learned how choppy from showbiz and in large professor just showed me crazy trace that he's come miles And show with us because we we met me to earth and we's going to miss McKenzie's house Who's the DJ's uh mom stir cutting case scratch? I mean cake and search grass so we go to the house So I was around large and peed a lot and that they were way more advanced on the beat program in front from me We all went to the records in sampling but my skill didn't really get to a point until around 92 You know saying when I started working on boom back with care rest because one back original right Not that's on but the majority of Carries want to tax and you didn't question them at all too you Kill that So Last at radio for not playing us and then the time that'd be our biggest You know what else I got I gotta go straight into it so sorry Oh, that was a true story Just to get a rep we just got idea We were living in the Bronx on one eight third street. I moved out of East New York on one eight I was living in yeah, we moved to the Bronx one eight third street. That's how I met That's how I met no chink bean That's how that's smaller together town no cracker No way Down the hill on Andrew Was we got our first check I was moving into and we're graphing myself He was about to be the music director for the tonight show with Jay Leno He is right for this summer still still living there before they moved out later So they were kind of back before so at the time before you may have officially moved He we all moved together so now is the grandfather this way the son me and guru all living together on three seventy four wash She didn't broke so we moved back to Brooklyn We both bought our first brand new cars and you know I don't have a whip already, but how about MPV For the time for sure, but it was very famous every time We're not in mind the jack boy car because it was the sound system everybody knew me for yeah I'm the way so when when that happened guru bus four run of these one to four run of the style body style Google got into a problem with some dudes in Brooklyn and The tribal stick and they took the car Tom Tom pass We're looking for cats look at the cats couldn't find the car one day We just for GPS. Yeah, okay one day we're moving around We see the car start chasing after the guy Going after me since I's be chasing cops see us start chasing too going after me like that's our car That's our car because they want to pull us over. They go after them car these on driving The driver hits an ice cream truck and dies. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah, and it's crazy because Guru at a picture of the day he got the car and he's in front of the going Like like yeah got my car Going to the precinct where they brought the car to us all smudged in and everything for the for the crashing of all smudged up and Groose I got to take a picture by he standing by going Before I see I'm writing a song about this and we wrote the song and see the album only has two verses When we came up with the video with Fab Frapp ready and did the he said we need a place who was on that? Oh, that's me scratching now that I mean they their voice on For fun you for you never on the well. Oh, yeah We're so so Fab Frapp ready said we need a closing way of the video and being that the guy did die in the end He said we gotta do a third verse of Guru or the third verse and that's why the 12 inch has a different type of a bounce 1990 so that yeah, and that crazy that we actually found the dude took off at them cars go after The after us and once we say you know, we're trying to get our car back and the dudes running crash to a car I'm up for you That's why you gotta love gangsta. This is why you got a love true star. You got now people The world is Now That me now stand still when you're the be shit I want to say arguably Might be my favorite It'll back to my favorite album the whole time Not because I wanted either a little bit in my favorite Even I ain't on it at all All right, so now you meet this kid of that last professor Bring you to them and then they say they want you to work on him up to my burning. Okay, and there's a story where I had not Waiting I didn't even realize I don't remember He said that I was in the car talking to a girl and he was behind me, but you know But he waited In the car shot We got it together. We got downstairs The first three Well Oh battery I think I was acquired as I've ever been There With the world don't know that the world know who now What about back to the grill again was he back to the grill Right so he had a buzz already this was yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah And after we at the time Yeah, I'll he I represent but not the one on the album the one is on the old Maddy is a remix What's going to one the vinyl on the single now just the one that's the one is on the house beer The one is on the album period is the remix at the baseline To keep you up and yeah, yeah, but I can't believe I'm so I'm I still can't believe we celebrate over 25 million I knew I wanted another black I just didn't know I was gonna get a bar The fact that you know, I don't know if you guys know but we only interview legends not because we don't have love for the new generation Because we do yeah, but I feel like in hip hop hip hop is the only Place that you get 10 years in you get 15 years in and they say you old and That right we are old but we have old times But we are true to what we do Absolutely believe in I refuse so I just want to keep the interview on legends and for us to have a 25 million flat Congratulations And I fucking hate you He knew he When did you get the prize bro? Hey listen man I think The side bar my boy DJ hair on definitely You know why you always got to become a hair wrong because if you go to a hair wrong party you come around It's real hip-hop the bitches are gonna be there with a sneakers golf with the hoop earrings Like when the chicks got their heels on that's not hip-hop, yeah, like you got your sneakers got to be dirty To a certain extent you know to be real hip-hop You Now so you do the world is yours You said after you did the record you was just happy for cherry happy But did you did you had the full side this this the thing that this guy would actually like you know this guy There was a lot of anticipation even when you guys were working on the positive Nobody Where there are a lot of records on that project that didn't make the project that you guys heard Did was that the only me you made oh So it's one and done one hit a Twitter Now the freppy that going Okay, yeah You know And it's totally different you know So now you did you said three joins We had a debate on that one cuz I actually didn't like that This is Really We can't you get a beat right and he says he came to me he came to me and said what's your rhyme? They Are video pop No, but what the thing about it is is that what you have to you have to hit the vote was first Now because Is one of the best hip hop out I was on the war report and now you got me on another right and and now like that This is the year reunion. I'm the merge as a solo artist too. Right. I mean your first. I your first noria I mean like that like to this day What happened was we wanted a pre-mobile be so bad right Everybody we can we can we can we can be be for some reason our schedules was messed up And then we went to dnd we went to dnd and I felt like he needed something from us And we just kept wasn't given it And then you just With a six-stats and you said that's not decolon and screen dog So like yo just me He said what's your opening line? So you had that rhyme already read or I had the rhyme already I just was waiting for something perfect the goal is that fit perfect And he said saying again The television Set up on a big old 1970s television The two joints and I got the turntable the mix on there There's a guy yo, I still can't believe I With the 50s Right now Was actually not nowhere In the city but once you get in the dnd you in the projects We will start a work in there in 92 that was a heroin block. So during that time A lover prior before y'all started calling it was drug central. There was no lights. So it was very dark There ran a newspaper right across the street. So we always beat for them and there was a lot of fighting and threats And I will get my gun and all this crazy stuff back then and and it was just I remember heavy digger. I wasn't came by said do we really got offended? So I With the hit factory to finish work And I was like, yo, that's how I do it. You had a machine that had filly cigars in what is it called? The Band with And Where I the dude we had to restart get least every week There was I can't you know I see me like cuz you know every time we used to go to studio We should always stop and cigars, but we're with the dnd We never stop we said just go straight there. It was a little bit like more expensive, but it was like worth it Back Recently peaked Kanye and Jay Z Just hide you to do a joint describe What was that like? What is he was being a kid in the candy store? Jumbo Kanye got in his new whip brand new whip tags don't right me him kid cutie And why burning the road from zero to 60 and less than three seconds? That's that's how I got that now. Now pull though. Oh, what? Police He's calling it, but now when he gives you that call Because at the end of the day you represent the purist form of hip-hop So when you get a call from Kanye, what is your first reaction? I'm just gonna bring all my knowledge around me and when I got there he actually impressed me But what do you know? I'm saying and from my intervals to just like music and general And how he respects it. So I knew we want to sound good from the start So I started helping him out like run away. Well, that's me in the back helping him out Doing little beats Just hitting the popping but when we got together and did the joy I didn't know Jay's even to be on My engineer at the time was young guru So young guru What else did you engineer to why? At the time at that time so I was working with and you know He called me and he said yo listen to this And I was driving at the time And he's a white sky on it. I was fling it to me Just to make it pulled over Who that being? He's like listen listen We played it again And I had a little bit of Jay's being Is that Jay's being behind me? Yeah, something together And that kind of thing Just the first time we're together Okay, I got it He finally gets on a beat and it happened through Kanye So I'll get your name on him First name and then the first Yeah, he's being rocked like the ragged dragon He's being it real good I was happy for that even though Primo was already You know Well deep into Jay's he Right His music Let's make some noise for that guy Now Primo You were actually on reason move down Correct Okay I'm not of us done to D&D I'm this That's correct Credit say D&D So now This kid comes Now you already work with I asked Nas albums already out Yeah Ah You already crown The top producer But now this guy comes to you He got some Brad But I know you You don't give a fuck about Brad I know you And did you know him from original flavor? Yeah, I know before that Oh, before that I knew Jay probably about 87 Because Jay's always on EMI And then even when we got signed to EMI Which was due Chris's the same distribution Jay was still would always come up there with Jay's old So for anytime Jay's old We've showed up to any club or whatever Jay Back then Jay had the big And we're gonna get Jay's ain't squashing with Jay We know him Yeah, for real Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday We were talking about that yesterday This is just a chance This is just a chance So be honest And so be honest with you What does he say to you? He says Prane Because you've seen him in the industry Yeah, we're working with him And what think about Prane? Prane don't give everybody a beat No You've got to prove yourself as a real MC Yeah To get a beat from playing So what did Jay's do That you said I'm a fuck Well, even when he got to the point of hanging with a little bit of prison of labor That's when I was still in the Bronx And Chubby Chubby down the block What do they say? They say that's key And so that down university Down there, down the other way Down the hill from where we were You know, the thing goes uphill Down everything down the hill up there We were down the hill from where I was And so So Being on New Jay already It's crazy because Big L Was already saying Yo You know, if you know, just a big L Yeah With Jay alive But also Jay They managed Big, all right Yeah, I believe so Yeah, they were Merging into doing some work Which is a lot of rock philosophy Right Situation was about to happen But But I knew Jay Also Aside from Jazz, oh When he became So I said We came A lot of people Mr. C's from LG Copy and call Jackson And then Mr. C move Then I think it was his honor Somebody's house right You can't be Jay You can't be Jay You're a boss Come on man She's a so good A family of family Story I'm so sorry So sorry I know I know It's great, we spread love over here That's my feeling I'm sorry He's been like on the slack Where I'm getting my job going Right I'm sorry We're so few people there About the hot contact Could I see people go And I'm like, hey No No, you know, you know, you told me that I want you to finish this story Please You're not going to fail You're not going to fail All right But um I was actually Drinking with Joe Pessy one night He was there You just done it on us right now But then It was done He was there Like you did it on us You did it on us You just did it on us You just did it on us You just did it on us Joe Pessy Joe Pessy I just did it on us I know I thought it was right But he's doing it Finish it all But the fairs My kids Finish with Joe But he would not let me take a shot But I'll look at the moon And this is old school Because um This is in the 90s So I Everybody else from Queens moved to Long Island I was the only Fucking asshole to move to Jersey And so I was you know I was at all Monks, you know, the Thai For some reason I don't know why But I always move next to the Thai Am I for you I'm sorry I don't know why But it's always some I don't remember that I don't remember that You don't look in the Queen You don't look in the Wild Look at these I'm ready for I was I was point Oh yeah You don't even down in front You don't even down in front You have all bunch of How you doing? Yeah, how you gonna For I always take a long court Italians Yep And And they just Witting And I say why Why I gotta look at our eye They said because in the mafia If a person can't look at you The eye when they take a shot That's the person who's gonna shoot you Oh And And you know back then It was like that You know what I mean It's not normal Yeah I don't know I've been living by that And I've been aiming When somebody don't do it I always say Hey excuse Just always looking me And It's a very very One thing Well General Now they can't Look at you in the eye Period Now Jason It's reason moved out Yeah So by the time He got to reason How much time You don't reason Three I did I did Deevils Wait wait wait wait He just Be three for three With everybody man Fucking Elmatic Three Dope I think And you gotta also I'm saying But You gotta Man is me three But By that time Me and Jay knew he does it so well Who But you know I was on WBL That's at the time And I was doing radio So Clark Kent Brod Jay Z up there To let me Hear in my lifetime The single At that press of themselves The original in my Because they had the two versions And I can't get with that So money as I bet so So When they brought it up During my commercial break And I heard it I was like I'm gonna play this out Out of commercial break They're like But you just Listen You gonna You gonna play it now Like yeah Open the show with it Next thing you know Jay's like I got something for you Give me a bottle of crystal I didn't know what crystal I was like You're still drinking Fuck And he like This is The real deal champagne right here This big Big ball of stuff I like Cool And I think For years and years Save the bottle Yeah Now finally Dragon You know And now Of course You know Daniel Fucking crystal But We don't fuck this We just I don't fuck with him So fuck you There you go Yeah So So And now We're just Fades now Easy to speak So Shops not the best But it's okay There you go You don't Can I say that now And now And now Actually At Nonsense birthday party Um Was the first time I I tasted space Because Jay Came to the birthday party I was like I'll never taste the days I don't know For me a glass And we're in Slammed down I'm all whiskey I'm a brown liquor guy Whisky guy Now let me Before we get into this Oh Get into the interview So So Dame Approached Well Jay approached me About us We had a friendship already Okay And then he influenced me The Dame I used to see Dame And the Bronx Walking his dogs All the time Yeah He always had his dogs And he was walking Around And he was going to see Chubby Chubby And Steve And he was And the manager Now And now We're saying Chubby Chubby Chubby Chubby DJ DJ Chubby Chubby Rindle Flavor And Slamman It's a big DJ And Boston And Boston Yeah Okay And Boston So So Dames Be around They're walking his dogs All the time So we met then But it was just Small talk We were just You know Everybody knew Gangsta was at the tower We were all we were known enough So from there Jay said This guy Had a business So I went Del with him Told him how much I I said I Because it's Jay So love I'm only going to Charge you 4,000 Dollars Which was Very Very Very Lucky And I don't believe in luck But that's a blessing For me to give you that type of number Right We went in the back They came to the cash And I started getting busy Now Jay called No care No And And Let's make some noise to crack Yeah I just knew it was a Good morning Good morning Good morning Good Here we go Here we go So Jay called me and said I got this song Called the He explained it to me And he Yes That's everything He explained it to me He explained it to me Then he wrapped the whole Something on the phone Then after he wrapped it on the phone Then he gave me the scratch I did And said I He said He said I want to do So he had it all mapped out It's Right Okay I don't want to get you Same And I got my mind Right I can't die I can't even He said Make it go I can't He knew He knew the samples He wanted you to come He didn't know the Not to sample to make the beat He just I did He gave me the idea of How to He said This is the atmosphere I want Musically But I want you No matter what you make Do these scratches And I went down And I said I'll be ready by the time You get there And it was ready When he walked in I saw When the scratches He could pick the wrap That's what I'm saying That he was Just samples for the cut He was Yeah He said Yeah Just samples for the cut He picked He picked that already On the phone On the phone You know Yeah On the phone So That's crazy So he had that well thought out And he knows So crazy Him and Biggie He used to always Later Cut vocals And then They both To leave and go I do the Permit And they both did the same thing Do the Permit They Went to They They They They Now I gotta make sure it's right Right It's that Do the Permit They We going out And they would leave And let me just do my best I might have said Do the Permit Oh You did it You did it What's the first drop in the video I'm good So now Pete Rock Get me You're a staff You're Super producer You've done everything You worked with the best What makes you say I wanna do a whole album First off With duck down Before smoked in Because you did a whole So he did the last one The joint on loud The rest And then it's smoked in the rest So it was And then it had soul survivor too Yeah on loud With You Dang Yeah Mary I'm saying No He He's on Everybody on loud Yeah He sounds The best The lab You know That's The lab I was crazy I was doing up in the We saw The best lab So we're Making Say You know what I'm With A whole project With Smek And I think it was just The aura Who are The And And then Just Made You say You know what, Damn I love all of you too And they good do too If I could make a joint with them Then Went to Steve And With the idea I knew he could make Make it happen You know Then I was only But they said I was like Wow Okay They Even one I'm Dill But I said You know I'm To make this one Real good He was saying And Look I got the talent around Let me just See what's up And then Boom I'm just going This is all Making it happen And now You got to join With Smoked This Funny to sit with me in you House Means Strange food Real close with each other Like Are we talking strange food right now No talking Um Talking Then Then The fat Albert John Yeah The shit on sauce But you want me Yeah I don't I don't I don't I had such a great time I had that Was it green Studio You was Green street Yeah Yeah Look at my memory Yeah I was The Combo The D Of Pete It was green street That was Way That was That was Way That was his These That was like Jamie Tom I used to run Friends Get The F*** I used to Read your friends I came in Right after that That's Tell me the whole story I used to I was He J We Stop On Your Friends Oh How about the Z The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The You know Pete showed me and I remember I had the cardiac frames on at that time too And I also and I also had a very important sweater on that I bought Miami It was called Because this is the guy who designed iceberg with the he went and did his own thing and I forgot what it was called But it was some flash it and I bought it from Bob Harbor and I only wore the pink rocks Now you guys You work with knives you work with jam have you ever worked with bag you never worked the bag He'd been to my crib if it was he was picking my in the little beats And he's like, you know, and then you know he heard the idea of juicy in my basement You know Big to my house, you know, we all for my Both of my Yeah, my front right office from Della Avenue And my Hmm, he's just like, you know, big right you just want to see how you make a beat And then I made this be called This is all caught in the flesh on the main degree He wanted it, oh no, but it didn't happen somehow, but ended up using it Wow, but he was there and saw the process but but now the scribe that because now you know Puff is from Mount Vernon. So you look at them like a pair But now do you realize that this guy that he just brought to your studio is the most legendary person in the world? You knew you knew the order was there because I think puff came on the show and he's Big as disruptive like his look was Did you get that feeling Deliric You know, let's get some pop it, but he heard the idea of juicy And just you know, I didn't actually do the actual original I did ended up doing the remix and that was the only thing You know if you know he did pick beats, you know, which thing the Yeah, he knew what he wanted to wrap to yeah Yeah, now you know, how did you first me? I met big When we move back to Brooklyn for green with a little grandfather Fist me moved out and what the California we turned this place into a frat house party house Wash them to me laughing at him rain It's old school yeah So that you It's not this is not the vegans No Green Big you what same green army jacket and the sleeves about right But all the time I know Nino Chico Can what they bring you this guy know what miss? I gotta give mr. C the credit Mr. C bigger my but he's from the beginning He ups. Yeah, he's annoying me like yo, and he wouldn't know stories B.I.G. Yeah, he was biggy spawns and Everybody else had biggy small so that he just yes Yeah, but I used to a lot of shoulder can and there was time that I might I couldn't my turntables got damaged But like then you carried your equipment on tour and all your records Why if you know DJ He want he want to still bring his B always turntables right before can Took the stage of the gang stalker before So again, he let right down the black from all the weed spots that we knew and so you gotta go I miss see I was in the dope weed spots right there the new one the one is like oh, no, no, that was dead So no skill of the kids the nice Franklin Ave Air so then during that time Missy is a carman go frame biggy smalls biggy small. I'm like see. I'm gonna listen to it like give me some time Weeks past yo cream biggy smalls. That's why I'm like yo see before unsung hype. Yeah, right? Just biggy small biggy small thing. I'm like dude. I'm gonna stick cuz we pretty busy that time already Monday I listen to it Like to like the demos that I heard and then I met big on the corn. I was going to corner store me Guru big sugar dab and dab was a level a little Kim and look him like That's that to this very day. Shots it down Yeah, that family a melancholy I got a lot before many times to what home melancholy We all connect me J. We were all of us still good so So then big was like yo see see told you told me even stressing you out like yeah finally heard it I said we gotta get some man and then he goes Joe Puffer said this is what he said pop for the interest in his son of me. So this is how far back before the game 92 Okay, they said puff is addressing the side of message do go with them. Yes it puff puff not only have money He got a vision. All right. He gonna blow you up. He's a I don't know man. You know I want to keep it hood. I'm like yo. He's the one to go with go a puff Wow, you know, and then boom next thing. You know puff started coming around and actually I tell people this Puff was the first one. I'm sorry. I'm I want to be good because puff is the first Remember your state. Yeah, but so what's the first record you actually Worked on the big unbelievable This is actually trickle down this is a trickle down that was a single Yeah, yeah, trickle down into why I gave Jay Z in the price lower price for reasonable doubt because when we did unbelievable The the the the budget had run out for big and I told big I don't have time to make a beat He goes like a We were already cool with each other I felt weird telling them no, but I really didn't have the time and I'm a person Then Peter tell you this I make the beat on the spot And now that's something that people don't realize I don't have like 20 beats and go your pick one like take number six and number four I think it for the person that's a real man. Yeah, you can't do the beat I can't hold on. Yeah, that's what they do. They make it to the artist. Yeah, so I didn't have them for big that was dope, you know, I'll be waiting on come on man No, you got something like I don't I really don't you come here. We can make it big old I don't care if you taking piece of president and just some funny stab sounds They you know, he knew the slid the slide Right, yeah, and you know what stabs what we say in production and in the production era So he said I don't care if it's a stab that's our word so coming up tonight then That's what happened he comes up. I'll take the five thousand I said, but if you get a deal and you go platinum I want thirty five thousand dollars per track Wow, after after and going platinum. Yeah, that's when we did the song Crazy in this 95 There's 95 he comes in we do the song it becomes the B side of juicy It was like the street single for juicy. There's my first gold single saw with a wow As soon as he got the deal to up the money I remember he goes yo. I got the check for you said 35 right? He said I got I got two of them Brody me to check and puppy gave me the check and I was like wow he kept his word. Oh, so this was an on paper This is word. It was like a handshake shit. Yeah, let's mix it up. Oh, big You learn so much hip hop history 35 back then That's 90 Let me ask you because you The reputation is like the most hip hop is of hip hop is now Janet Jackson you work with Janet Jackson Work with Christina No, no, I'm gonna act on it. Aguilar Aguilar you work. Do you work with Britney Spears? No, no, okay, so just So now as a hip hop producer you get this call. What is your first thing to say for Christina? Yeah, like cuz you know Her ex-husband Jordi had put on some of my stuff, but she liked it. Right. She called me and goes yo I just heard the group home. Oh, oh That's That's the honor. That's the honor. That's the honor. What? What? What? You said he just heard. I met up to Chateau Mama down the hill on sunset. You kind of fronted him. You fronted him. You fronted him. You fronted him. You fronted him. That's the honor. Chateau Mama. That was being Germany. That's the answer. Chateau Mama was with a lot of Wig, Big Wigs, Lam, and Ranking. I never had any. I never had any. I never had any. I never heard of it. That's writing down the hill, writing down the hill, writing down the hill, writing down the She likes the jazz samples I use on some of the games. So she like the jazz things, she like work. She like the, yeah, she like work. She like, you know my steves, even though that was my soul. But the song she was naming was joined, like, wow. That attracted you to want to work with me. Let's go in. And then we ended up, we both do one record, which was called Back on the Day. Next thing you know, she was like, I'll stay here a couple more weeks and we just started banging out and turning it into five records. And then that was the first Grammy I ever got for a single, where you know, not for being on the album. I got a Grammy for the Angel Lo. Working on the album for Jay-Z on Hanukkah. To get one for the single is Singles out all the other songs on the album. It's like for that one song you got a Grammy. So that was a big monument and that was a micro-rear. It was a dope. It was dope for Mass. It was a mix of noise for that guy. Damn it. That's it. Now who was it? You said you're working on them, but you want to see them right the wrong. And they face. It was somebody, I forget. I'll work with them, but I want to see them right the wrong. Right the wrong. I think it was like adjusting Bieber. Oh, okay. All right, yeah. Who knows? The Siphon. Which I've been doing. I was the Siphon. We didn't know the Siphon for BT. He probably was going to even get this big. It was an idea. It's just a giant shout to Jesse Collins. And congratulations to Jesse Collins for doing real well with the new edition story. That was his idea. And it blew up. It did really, really well. The big numbers and Jesse's a good friend of mine. We argue and fight a lot over. Know what's wrong if you do it this way. Know what's right if you do it this way. We fight a lot, but he's such a good friend that we always find a compromise. When he brought up the idea during the Siphon, it was a one-time thing. It was Papu, Stylz P, Remy, who else was in it. Ron Fest. And then there was a second one. And those two I couldn't make it because I was on tour. So I had DJ Scratch filling for me. I just gave him the beat and said, let's keep it break beats only. You know, because something now says, elevate it. If you're like, you know, I need some to turn up too. It's like, no, this is the pure form of how we do it. Keeping the break beats. So are you a producer on that piece of beat? I pick the beat a little bit. I'll do maybe four. Jane Brown, Lou, break beats from Ultimate Break beats, whatever. And I'll send those and whatever one. Jesse's like, if I like this one, we'll clear it. We'll have it all over it. And then we'll send it to all the artists. And we tell them 16 bars and quit. Everybody's got 90 bars. They never follow the rules. Then they get mad. They edited my stuff. And it's like, no, we told you 16 and quit. And again, it was one time only. Second year comes around, except Cypher. They're like, we want to do it again. They got three Cypher's. Then that turned into four Cypher's a year after that. Now it's starting to get Cypher's where they're starting to put a lot of artists that I'm like, nah, nah, they can't rhyme. Don't put them in there. And it's going into that stage of it. And now it's like, well, they're popular. They're no more known than the skilled MCs I'm like, yeah, but if you're taking away the skill that causes problems with the authenticity. And that's why I have a problem because I want the self-identity. Yeah, but all the fans love them. And they're on TV and they're on every video. And these other guys, nobody's paying attention to them. I'm like, well, you know what? They're going to pay attention to when they see how dope they spread. So we always have that fight. One year, they said, yo, what do you think of Justin Bieber spitting on the site? I said, I don't care. He's doing it as long as he writes to rhyme. And if it's a dope rhyme, let's do it. He said, what is somebody else writing? I said, no, I didn't. That was it. Go ahead, free. He blew into it. Go ahead, free. He blew out of water with rumors being saying that I mentioned this person, this person. No, it was just that simple. If he's going to do it, let him spit. And so the next thing you know, it's like a right-dash shit. Yeah. Next thing you know, it turns into the whole campaign showing him spitting verses on radio stations and all that. And I'm like, yo, I work with Justin Bieber as long as it's authentic. Let's rock. I don't care if it's Justin Bieber. I don't care if it's Mary Poppins. If it's authentic, let's rock. That's the right thing. But how important is that for you guys? Very important. I know from what that was Justin. I would have yes. Right. But just you wanted him to write it in front of you. Yeah. And they didn't say that he wasn't going to write it. They said, what if he doesn't? I'm like, they know that. They just gave this shit. They just showed on the blog. Did they premiere? Fans? Justin Bieber was like, how can I band nobody? Because if it was my cypher, you're going to see Kane there. Right. They wrote Kim there. D-I-T-C doing a whole cypher with A.G. and Diamond and O.C. and all of them. It's going to be people like that, you know? Right. You see when the shady cypher, it was Eminem. Yeah. And you know, people with skills. Eminem, Royce, Joe Button, Cook and I. You know, how important is that for you guys? You guys have the integrity. You guys are on top of a lot of producers when they were just... When we were speaking, real, real, real hip-hop. You guys name has to be brought up. Now, is it ever a time where you sit back and say, you know, I'm going to do it for the money this time? Or you say, I'm going to always say who I am. Always say who I am. And I've been tempted. I've been tempted. Like, damn, that much? We all have been tempted. Good example. Yeah. But the business in our hearts is the passion that about love and what we do. Yeah. We do it for the love. It's just, that's who we are. Staying on that. The business that we have. The business was a good example. Tell us about it. Because when my manager kept pressing me to do it, Patrick Moxie at the time, I was like, nah, because I said Fred Durs can't wrap it in my eyes on the level of love. Right. People, I don't want my fans going down, praying, you work with him. And I like them that biscuit for what they do. But if you're going to get with me, that's not what you do. Your pen has to get a lot more ink. You know, Sam. And that's the bottom line. They go, well, methamins on the song. I said, oh, word. I said, then send me the rough. It's send me the rough and methamins on it. I said, then, okay, then I'll do it. And it was a big check. A huge check. One of the biggest checks I've ever gotten. Wow. So the good thing I liked about Fred Durs was he called me and said, I need to talk to Prem. And he's just becoming one of the new executives at NSCO, with Jimmy Avey. And he said, yo, man, this is recently, when we were going back when they were really popping. And we were going back to the house. But he had respect for what you did. And we had a dope conversation. And it was to the point that the best you can get at me out, I'll do it. He came to D&D. And we tried. He tried. He tried. Yes. He tried. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And they were big at the time. This is a second out. And he was like, yo, get the best you can get at me. I don't care if you don't like it, whatever. I'll do it. And he, that was the best I could get. He was on the side. Right. But the fact he put the effort in. I like the fact he put in the effort. And he knocked it out. Next thing you know, he said, yo, we're doing a video. He flew us out. We had a big video shoot. We had a good time. And it was just a really, really fun session. And then me and Fred were cool after that. Yo, before the thing is, you guys mentioned Dwick. And we didn't go back to Dwick. Let's go back to Dwick. Troy is one of the biggest hip hop records ever. Troy was never beat. And Dwick is one of the biggest hip hop records ever. Yeah, it is. So we need to hear. We need to hear the story of Dwick. Dwick's the only reason why Dwick happened. Because that's all of our summer anthems, by the way. Like we all, that's... NICES MOVE did a song called On the Anadana. Damn thing change called Down the Line. Right. It was with a whole bunch of MCs, bass blasts, to pick up to him, a whole bunch of other MCs. He said bass blasts. Yeah. On Connecticut. Including a shot to Ray Pouncy. And Ray Pouncy. And then Gurus also on it. He said, I want to loop the manifest beat and do my own version. Because a lot of people don't know. Most of the NICES move hits. Greg NIC does all the beats. Wow, I didn't know that. I've seen him do it. He's for all that stuff. He about junkies. Every... Every... Yeah. Down the line. Oh my god. Up the line. Thank you guys. No fun, Stanley. Yeah. Yeah. I'm back. Sorry. I got the record. All the kicking wicker rounds like a fortune teller. Had a dog and all those... He did all that stuff. Yeah. He did all those beats. from me to make it Oh, my God. He popped right there. Yeah. Let's make it clear. Let's be it. Hey, park it. Yeah. Hey, dude, dude, it's popping up here. It's a funky view. All this stuff, dude, is he gonna let's be plays a sack. I know he doesn't play a sack. I remember myself, you know, he'll play a fucking sack. He just, you know, but it worked. He lost some of the little mags, you know, he did all those beats. So, recognize the dope beat, make it. Wow. Yeah, that's why. I mean, I just have some emotions. So, he took the manifest instrumental made a beat and all we were doing was, because we just hanged tough. It was nice to smooth gangster riding a D train. We go to the castle, which was grimy in the Bronx. And this was the one that had to shoot out with the Greg all this. And I'm like, we were around all that stuff. Boom, next thing you know, we said, well, let's return to favor and do a record for us. So, that's all it was. Just, y'all do one for us. We're gonna do one for you, right? We're gonna do one on the, yeah, that's why we're the beat side. And it went on the album. I remember people like, oh yeah, y'all looks off the album. It's like, nah, the album was already done. We're just doing it for fun. Right. We were doing it. And that became a huge risk. Such a huge risk. And we just, we're talking about template right now. We didn't know it was gonna be a huge hit. We're just doing it every time. I didn't know it was just for fun. I remember, yo, you be surprised how we got that. Yeah, I know. Shout to Dub, see, he was there. Aren't you related to somebody on the West like that? No, we just good friends. We're just good friends. But you did an album MCA recently. Yeah, that's coming out of Haunt. Oh, that's a tight track. Yeah, let's go back. I'm expecting a Southampton MCA conference. Most wanted. And he did two of the coolest theme records for boys in the hood. He did growing up. And I'm seeing, and he did, he's on my album every week. And it's a tight. So yeah, we have an album. We have an album. We have a, we have one hit, one hit. We have which way is West? All camera. That's coming so, and also the end watch out for his album. Oh, back to your team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's having it. Yeah. And he did the, and one of the condiments was a wee, so you know, people know. And then, Shabletoid Wolf and also Shableto Miguel. We have a single out right now called To Love In You. Now, what happened was, where were we, where were we? Dwyck, Dwyck. So, dub C was there. Wow, that's, and Don Barron from The Mass as a Sarah. Oh, she was a word. Yeah, because he was going for a Greg Knight. Question though. How did the horny version happen to Dwyck? I was just doing it just bugging out. And to the horny version? Yeah, the horny version. The horny version. The horny version. The horny version. The horny version. What the, as a vocal version had a glitch in human, when you go to death, the dad of a, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So when we bounced, we stayed quiet, let them tell us about that. And had to go, even about the death, just a glitch. Yeah. We couldn't, I was like, we can't put all that. So what you do, slow with that. That's why I just put the instrumental on this, on the B side of the swell. Holy rain. Oh, holy rain. Damn. Damn. Wow. That was pretty, pretty cool. What did you all know you had something with Dwyck? Like, I mean, immediately, when that shit came out, when we finished it, it was crazy, because like I said, Dub C is from the West Coast wearing skulls, all in the heat of it. 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And you want to picture some. Yeah, but that's down with the kids and then with the kids. Yeah, recipes to eat. So we met them back in 89 so kill it. You know, for the upcy to be there back then that shows you we go and recipes with brother who passed on January. I skewed DJ crazy to the recipes. And when we said them off right we had an incredible home going service and people showed up. I saw your family. You and I and seeing all these West Coast off from King T. And then seeing you know, Tug D and LL and everybody and you know, just every artist and family. Yeah, it was so packed and they just did it right. You know, saying, playing dope music in the church, playing flashlight and doing a whole collage of all the people he's been around on a video screen and and and then even when it did everybody got a little on the side of the shows, tools, throwing up the W looking up to the sky with with clouds and wings and all that stuff. I was like, yeah, you see, no, I was trying to get. He's been smoking with double. He's been playing. He's like, yeah, that was it. Yeah, we got to when you hit 50, you're very smart about how you do things on TV. I got not. I got to go. We are what tour the best of producers and all the best in my EP. Yeah. And I'm going to celebrate you guys like, man, what's the I'm going to continue. I can't believe like I continue. I got to come back and this black. Absolutely. Because it's 25 million. You know, the crazy shit is. Okay. Is this guy is a vinyl guy. He's a real hip hop person. I am a hip hop person to come together and want to commemorate hip hop is salute hip hop. And for it to get 25 million. Shout to revolt man. I'm picking up. Yeah. I'm CBS. CBS. CBS. CBS is first. Revolve CBS is first. Revolve has been fucking with us. Revolve. And the coming home. We got to go. I can be a coming home. March 23rd. March 23rd. I've been. But when you go, you're going to LA. You got to prepare. Let's become your permit. No, I'm doing screening. I screen at the LA Film School. So March 9th March 23rd on Revolve. Heirs is the premier coming home Vietnam. I'm going to different countries and explore hip hop. That's a different kind of stuff. That's because the dope thing is I've been watching during great travel. A minute. Take this light. Yeah. Feel like you like it. All right. I've been taking on three times for a minute. Good. And it's just ill. How. How the two of y'all are from really different. Totally different direction. I'm no no from the streets. They've been street for so long. Right. Right. Thank you. I've seen them elevate from the street level of ramen to the sharper version of writing rhymes. Right. Even when you and Bobby had just rama and then we end up doing a record together. And even when that happened. It wasn't even a diss he was just like yo I'm a fan of nori. He did tell him to elevate his rhymes because I'm a fan. Yeah. And we're where everybody knows both the Freddie Foxes being the one big where he is more into discernment. He's attracted to for what they represent and he loves nori. Right. And more than this MC as a person. Right. Yeah. Big fan of you at the first. How big am I. Yeah. Oh, He told me from the beginning like if he had, I'll mention my name in the record. He told me like that. I just, I don't want you to say what, but I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I'll give you 100. When I record it super though, all right? That's how I used to count bars. I used to say what, what, what, what, what, what, what? What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, three, there's a number from the resource room. Oh, I told from where I think I'm gonna live and he said that's the hook but he was a genius too. He was a genius too because all of you get was take out the ones. Like what I said what what what one one. It only there was really and then so I got to give it to for real. Yeah he viewed it so now we Listen to it you hear and you say what But yeah, this day you don't even got to go to the verse That tears the club And when I was trying to say what when I did it I felt what Bobby felt That's why I took it personal because I felt I told for her I say it for round Oh I said oh, we need this up cuz I'm you know He's so so you know And he said relax He didn't say relax but in my mind For me I'll say I will never forget it we were in right track recording studios right his chain was choking him Oh I went upstairs and I said, oh, we need to hook and we good. He said, we got the hook already. And I looked at him and I was like, because I had previously did that every other record before that. We got met with real good things. But no, the first time I've heard you do a T-O-N-Y and just the whole bomb bomb, what? It was, it's like that's your stamp. That's your stamp. I know one of those olds that you are owner. But that's the reason why I gotta give it. It's not right. I gotta give it to Paul. Because he was the nigga like, I did that as a ball because remember back then, you gotta remember. Back then, we couldn't punch in. So I recorded the whole record in one day. The whole record. I was just punching. Yeah, I was punching it. No punching it. Here we man, let's mix it. We got it. We got it. We proud. But listen, I'm going, I'll be 51, March 21. Oh, that's so low. And you're gonna get 21, you guys get it bro. So, I did this shit. That's how I always recorded my records was all the way through. Because remember, we had the 8-inch rails back there. Two inch rails. Yeah, two inch rails, my bad. I'll probably do it. I'm gonna be out there. I gotta relax. I gotta relax. I gotta relax. I gotta relax. I gotta relax. What do you think it was at once? I was trained to just lay everything all together. So I came out and then he had the girl coming and the girl was saying, which is not Kelly's because everybody thought it was Kelly's. Everybody thinks Kelly's. It's not Kelly's. That's not Kelly's. That's not Kelly's. I don't know. I thought it was. I'm gonna get this. She was around during that time. Yeah, but everybody thought it was it. I'm so sorry that I forgot. Yeah, I don't remember her. It's Tammy. It's definitely Tammy. That was like your makeup. What? That wasn't your name? That was an error, right? That was an error. That was an error. That was an error. And we were all cool, Khalis. But look, so the police are coming back out. And I'll say you're for Ralph. All we need is a hook and we're done. And he said, be got done. And I said, where is that? And then he played it. What? What? They're like, they're going to laugh at me. No one's laughing at me. So we're Freddy Fox, game at me. He's like, I don't want to hit a what, what, what? But he didn't know that was me. It literally wasn't me. So I was literally, man, Mona was going on because of Mona. But I'm on now. Damn, they're on the drink chance. God damn it. On the onum? On the onum. And my mind. But shout out to damn the onum. Damn it. So now listen. You guys see hip hop. You work with. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. With CL Simone. Now. Now. Rest in peace. I'm going in. So now what makes y'all say I'm going to work with people outside of because the thing about hip hop back then was one producer did the whole album. I'm working on going back to that. One producer did the whole album now. You got you got you got Elmatic. With its Pete Rock premiere. Qtip. Large professor LES. Then you're going to at that big. The easy one big easy. Easy one. You know, for me, Lord, for me, the punk is well. L P. Yeah. Lord for next. So what makes y'all, what makes y'all say I'm going to work with people outside of my group. Because we're not just, we're just not in a hip hop box. We're in a music box. And the music box has all styles that we appreciate based on the cloth we're cut from of pioneers open the door. 25 James Brown. Bootsie. The whole parliament. Funk of Delic. Bootsie called it. Yeah, just out any of that from parlet. The browser. Funk of signing. Anything. Bootsie. Anything. Anything. After James Brown, that's so funky. The funk. You know, like that's a funk that you know, funk. Like he says, funk not only moves, it can remove. We come from that. You know, so I read the Franklin Natalie Cole, Gladys Knight and the Piffs. Curtis Mayfield, all that stuff, the Mac, all that stuff. That's my childhood. I don't know about nor hip hop to hippie, hippie. I'm on that. I'm seeing my mom playing back to the world. I'm dying to lose. Yeah, dying to lose. Anything in Motown, Tamla, Gordy, Soul Rekas, any of that stuff. My mom. I'm going to try to get you hit on one more time. His drink chance got damaged. I'm going to get him. That's a mojo. That's a mojo. He want to make his mojo. He he he rostafari. He rostafari. He's rostafari. He's rostafari, Ruzus and Y, Y. My childhood. His platform shoes. Half rose is big. Half rose in commercials with Johnson. Johnson product. Good times. Dejeffisins. All in the family. You know, the monsters. That's my mom. The monsters. That's my mom. Yeah. I'm going to throw something in the air. What's happening? That's my and my hair. All the. All the. All the air blocking stuff. All that. You know, all that. Yeah. Roll skating. We run. We run. That's what I know. That's just. This is no rap in the scratching yet. What is Pete Rock's favorite studio session? Out of all these years. My favorite studio session that I've ever had. Ever had. We probably had to be. We're running the MC. Wow. It had that with the King. Oh, shout with the King. Oh, down with the light. That's how power move that sit works. That's how power move that sit works. That's how power move that sit works. You know, the crazy. That's the owner of this club. And he knocked the light and we got the light. We got the light. That was the rap. That was the real. Yo, yo, we won the gang start to last day. And Ryan run called us and said hurry up and get here. We all started. We did 25 minutes trees. Why was I like going out? We did not go. And we did not go. Because we broke. And they said, that's it. That's it. That's it. It's been perfect. Not even when they did. We was. Yeah. And we came over to where you all was and everybody was gone. You know how games CBS this idea though. Come on, bro. I gave him that idea. We got to relax. No, you got to relax. OK, Lamas said we need a stream in the park. No, we set it on the podcast, buddy. We did say podcast. I got to go with you. I got to go with you. I got to go with you. I got to go with you. He feels more sober than me. Yeah. I'm in the sober. I don't know if it's a D-Day thing. Yes. You're about to. We have a memory of Jay Z. You got to relax. Jay Z saw me one day. Jay Z said, you're on the call, you memory, man. You remember every show. How do you see Jay Z and Yo, Yo, Yo, what you remember this time? I'll say, yeah, I remember we were in Paris. We had a show like two in the morning. And he was doing the, this is after the Justin Tim, like two and watch the throw. Who was doing a Holy Grail tour. We found out he was in town, me and Kebler, wherever Kebler is at. I said, yo, I want to go see Jay Z before. Reach out. That's when you still don't. What's up with you? No, no, this is in Paris. That's when you have to go to Paris. And we got a couple of little times. I want to go to show. I reach out to the proper people. And there's like Yo, John, when he was a John Manila. John Manila, he's at Kebler. Reach out to John Manila. He's handling everything. I reach out to John, send him an email. I'm like, I'm out of here. Any way we can go to show. I'm thinking he ain't going to respond. That thing blipped in like two men. And then yo, there's only passes waiting for you. All access. Come backstage. I'm going to have a spot for you. Wow. As soon as Jay Z. Woohoo! I'm sorry, three more. This is... We're going to be going backstage after the show. Because Tim a little bit de-dammed for. We're going backstage after the show. Jay Z goes, all right. Remember, you got this time. Thank you. I meant to do something to Kebler. My tour man. He goes. Yeah, he did. Yeah, Keb. Thank you for looking at something. Thank you, Kebler. How you doing? He's like, how you doing Kebler? Nice to meet you. You know what you got memory this time? I said, you met Kebler before. He goes, oh no. How? I said, we were at baseline studios. And Lupe Fiasco was auditioning for you. Oh, shit. And he had a big chain. There's a Lupe Fiasco had a big chain on with a big meddac. Which he would never do right now. And he was rapping for you now. And then he, he, he, much more focused on another level. Lupe Fiasco, come on drink, champs. Lupe, Lupe as a homie shirt shot the first of 15. So he goes, he, he, he's an auditioned for Jay, Jay, listen to all these rhymes. Lupe puts on a beat in the CD player, the CD starts to go, da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da you know how they writing your writing your writing your writing And then it's finally start skimming and it goes back into the wrong. We like, say kids. So right there, Jay goes, I totally remember that day. And then he'll be like, you know, him and Kebeloff and the corner talking about sports. You know, let's make some noise, guys. Yeah, here's the deal. Like, we're not interview people. I like to, you know, dig in today like. Right. When I know the people, the people, I don't dig into it like, because I know them already. Both of you guys, I know already. I know exactly what to ask you. But the thing about job, what surprised me is, y'all both come and y'all both do your own sound check? Oh, yeah. Is that mandatory? And so, Jay's man, that's what I'm asking is always good thing to, I always think, like, you guys will have a DJ. But they'll do my. We were talking about this. Me and him. I was so like, he's like, I thought they had DJ. I know. I was like, DJ, I think they don't have a DJ. I'm like, that primo dude. Yeah, that sounds like we've done show them, like, y'all mixes the e-win and everything. He's gonna make it right. Yeah, you're about to show that you have a fixed. The speakers, somehow. They got a buck. I can't do sound check. I don't care. Even if I don't get to eat, sleep, I'm starving. I'm about to take a nap. I think so. I will not miss out on that. They produce, they're gonna be right. Because a lot of festivals, you gotta just plug in, draw a check. I'm like, yo, it's got a bang. I'm gonna deliver what you paid to get what you paid for. You're gonna pay to get me again. And you want your beat to be heard right? So you don't ever send like a assistant or nobody, you guys. He was checking again before we start tonight. But, uh, other than that now, I gotta be there. I wanna even see the working room looks like. So I already have a picture of what I'm stepping into when the crowd is here. But you gotta let a man do what he gotta do. If you wanna do it, he wanted to do it. Yeah, yeah. You wanna beat him? Yeah, see me? I see you so now. Me too. I see it. And he's like, yo, he said, he said you were staying there. I was. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was spinning, spinning, spinning. You know what that is? I just love that. He was open up for himself. He was, he was, dude, he was done another hour. And we were like, yo, Pete, come on. Is that a bad thing? Like, yo, Pete, come on. We gonna roll where I'll get mad and not in a bad way. He's like, Pete, we got him. Yo, I'm at the record store. We were in Tokyo one time. And we're about to miss our plane. And he goes, I'm, I gotta get this record. I'm not missing my plane for you. Especially on the day you're finally going home. And you know, the day you go home, you just so ready to go back home. And we've been out for like a week. And in another country. And he's like, yo, I gotta get this record. I'm like, does. If we do not make this plane to you, we're gonna be. And that's actually how the whole Pete Rock versus Premier thing starts. Because of that day, we got on the bus and say, you know what? Man, we need to make an album where we get our attention out. And make albums going at each other, making ill. What's the other album? We're going to do an album called P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P. Oh, God damn it. The hats are on the... That's the record. They're recording. Are we doing that for you? You're about to have to do it now. So we never record me with your name. I'll do it the wrong way. Yeah, I have a website that's carrying the hats. What's the name of the website? Where I send the website again? Premier was here.com. Go to Pete Rock.com too. And just go to the shop section. Yeah, I didn't mix that up. It has all official gangster products, all official guru products, all official premiere products. And me and Pete share the hats. And we have green, red, blue, black, green, black. We have two tones. So what happened when you saw this battle? In the visually injured pan. Oh man. That's when it started. That's when it really started. No, no, no. I'm talking about when you saw the Just Blaze and Swiss battle. And your name is I'm like we've been doing it. You've been doing it. It's like y'all missed it. They need to go on you too. Know my hip-hop and story and I know. But what is your first thing when you heard that they battled and it got Swiss? I have the phone. Yeah. Where's my phone at? I'll show you the camera. Yes. You're key. We believe you. Whoa. Actually, whoa. While we wait, I forgot. I got it. We got NAY. We got NAY. Drink, guys. You're not closing. That's what's A to 9. I remember when you did the remix to... There you go again. Yeah. So I hold it. So I hold it. So it's a nail. It was me. I got that. I don't know. You guys. I mean. But it's from the perspective of what we think is hot. And I remember when you did the remix to those he'd call a name, pick it up. You did it with a city boy D. Look at Frank. You know. You did a very... You did a very... You did a very... You got to stop. That's what I'm talking about. Double emoji. Double emoji. This guy's a devil. Yeah, you know. Yeah. Passed to me now. Yeah, yeah. It seems like I'm doing it. I'll play. I said the Diego. Yeah. I played. I said the Diego. I played your version more than fast. Shout to Fab. Big up because Fab is a dope lyricist and knows how to do club records, radio records, and still have a really clever way of writing his rhymes. Love Fab. I'm a big fan of his. But to your version, fit in more of the form, I represent Big Me more. I'm a Ryan Meister. Big Meister. Like you said, you know. Clean shoes, no high heels. I don't like them. Your version was the one I played. So we're on every Friday night from 10 p.m. to midnight. I'll see you next time. I'm currently radio channel 44 here by nation. Yeah. And what I represent is the era of the 80s with Molly Maul Reddler, Chuck Chilau, also who's... Magic Mike. Just in here. And Chuck Mike, just in the 2000 era or whatever year we're in, I still keep it to that. And there's so many artists that have hot stuff out that will never get played anywhere else. So I'm like, I'll play it. Send it to me if I like it. And it's on that level. It's going to get broken. And that way, not only do you trust me, you also start to focus on, you know what? If he's playing it, it's got to be real. Right. And that's really what it is. So all of that truth was that. But now the just plays Swiss Beach. So it happens, right? I'm on my way to this show. I'm on my way to this show. I'm on my way to this show. I'm on my way to this show. And Swiss is texting me saying, yo, I thought you'd come check this out. But my show's on for 10 to midnight. It's starting at 10 o'clock. Right. He's like, yo, man, I really like it. And now I would have gone. Definitely, I definitely would have gone. But I'm not abandon my show because again, it's live. And I previously recorded it. Cool. Live is a whole different album. Live is when you have, when I scripted nothing, we just roll. Right. You know what I'm saying? And when it comes to the how we do it, everything just flows from minute to minute, second to second, beat to beat, voice to voice on just the realness of hip hop from my perspective. So when it came to Swiss Beach and just plays doing the show, as soon as I got off the air, I checked my Instagram and saw they were live. I went to Swiss Beach. I clicked on it. I went to see my man, DJ Red Tango, who's one of the dopest battles DJs ever. He'll make the scratch vinyl. Yeah. I go to his show to watch him do a party gig. And I'm in there with my phone going. Yeah, I was. Two in the morning. Yeah. I'm like, it's still on. From 10 o'clock, too. Yeah, I'm doing this. Looking at him a little bit. Q to call me. Then they switched it over. Now just got to beat. Yeah, that was so. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Q to call me. And you're doing that. And the guy going with me. They're mad. They're mad. I said, yo, just blazing them still batman. It's almost two in the morning. Yeah. And I'm sitting there doing this. Yeah. In a corner in the club where it looks like. I'm like a sore thumb, but I'm like, no, I'm watching this and checking it out. Because I want to see what they're doing to battle. Because they started pulling out these. No, they already win. So that's what I'm like. So, for you, still a fan of the culture like that. I will remain. Because you know why? I guess being from Texas, I wanted to be accepted by New York. Because at the time I came, if New York didn't accept you, it didn't matter where you were from. And that time, yeah, that acceptance. I got that acceptance from the greats. Yes. I wanted the EP and B to love me. I wanted Big Daddy came to love the rock. Yeah. I wanted CarrS1. I wanted Grandmaster Flash, Molly. All these motherfuckers better be on there. Can you guys die him? More than me. It was a P and E. It was me. DJ, DJ. You'd be Cammy, that. Jassy Jeff. Cash money. DJ Scratch. And I just want a Howie T. I give you the blood. You ain't smoke. Yeah, I smoke. I did earlier. No, let's just say he's not smoking. Early it was five minutes. That's not to work. That was recent. That was five minutes. Oh, sorry. This guy. I told you, 50 years old, you're on a stage shop. Yeah, you shop. You shop. You shop. You got to sleep week. You got me. You got to look at list. This is when you know your own point. Yeah. Never has any drug that ever used defeated me. And now. Very important. At 50, I'm on my level. You got to take a Molly, though. Yeah, let's take a Molly. No, let's go to the sky. No, let's go to the sky. No, let's go to the sky. Yeah, that was that, buddy. Dude, that was junior high. You hit a Molly. Dude, that was it. What's next, Aaron? That was it. No, no, no, no, no. That was 81 when it was called Black Molly and there was the old one. Oh, my God. There's a black Molly. What the fuck? Two hundred and a half. Let's put it in here. Put it in here. Put it in here. Put it in here. He wants to do like 1980. I was like a black Molly. I can see all this stuff now. It's just all this stuff. It's like, that's not all this business. It's just a normal jumble stuff now. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, this is my high school days. So my high school days, I grab everybody in the high school in 84. Okay. So imagine I era of getting lifted. And you looking good and we're going with spec. I just started training again. No, we need to look at Black. I'm getting my, you know, I love food, man. I love ice cream. No, I love her. She's chocolate syrup. Chocolate syrup. That's the first time ice cream. I'm going to sign out on the bar. Can't believe it. Wait, that's all. And that's all. That's right. When you go to the ice cream, I was like, you go to the best and right. You get three scoops in a cup. It ain't official to you. Take the heresy syrup. Thank you. You can't, you can't. You can't. You can't. When you make a fool of it, you don't want to see no greens. I'm going to see no greens in the block. That's how you do it. Let's go, bring it up. That's the level. That's the level. Ice cream to drugs. So there it is. I don't want to drink. I just say not a drink. It's the only thing I listen to. That's the way we get far from all the people that we've lost. Tell them to bring. And then we've lost to all different things from being shot, being in the bad disease, in bad health, all that stuff. It let me know. I'm here for a reason. I love your life. And fix your life to be able to have a longer life. My parents are 80 years. Let's mix the noise to that. My parents are 80 years. My mom's 88. My dad's 88. They got issues. But they still kick in. My father makes all the food. He's like, get away from my kids. And let me stay and get out of my way. I want to be 88 doing that. But I guarantee they never did the black Molly. You don't know that. Just put this away. You won't admit it. You won't admit it. What's the black Molly? I'm in. When I was in high school, you had black Molly? Yes. 10th grade. 10th grade. 16th. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I was 16. It's not only dreamt. I was 16. It was only one. X to C. Only one. It was one. Wait, wait. What year is this? 1982. 82 that was already accidentally. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. 82 that was actually you. I'm 41. Oh, damn. Wait, that X to C is 82. What the fuck? X to C is a white beer. But chill out, guys. I'm about to cool over here, bro. No, why is that a surprise? Yo, dude, I don't know. It was only one. X to C was called this, uh, this wood, right? This wood. Yeah. It was an X to C. It was called X to C. Yes. But damn, that shit wasn't popping till the night. You weren't around during that time. No, this. No, no, no. I was talking about that. You said you were going to ride it. I'm 10 years older than you. Yeah. So. Got to relax. That's it. 81. I graduated high school in 84. So. I got you. I got you. 83. And listen, there was like one style of X to C, one style of mildly. That was it. There was no 20 and 10. There was all these. There wasn't really beer and cherry, cherry juice and all these funny names. And you spoke OK like you. Yeah. And you spoke OK and was more of a smoking. OK. It's called a cool crack. A woo-woo. No, a woo-woo is crack and weed. So a cool, coldly is cold and cigarette. And that was how you smoke. Oh, OK. It's crack. It's crack. Yeah, yeah. I was born in 1977. It's all good. I was born in 1977. I was there. You was there. I was born in 1977. I was born in 1977. But I was there staying with my grandfather. I was there. I was there. I was there, bro. I was there. During those days, it was only one of each time. That's why, when I see what's going on now, it's like, damn, man. These people are so lost because there's all kinds of weird shit floating out. I don't want to be around. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I'm glad that I made it. I'm glad that I understand the concept of that era because understanding it and understanding where your Cut-Off point is, don't need to re-heat. You re-heat yourself with your mind. That's right. Now always say that. Yeah, you re-heat yourself. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. I know when the substance can't control you. I want to tell myself that's too much. Yeah, go back to normal and then that's how people can wonder about you, but they can't say, oh my man is a boss he gone. You can never say I'm gone. I'm always here. Let's make some noise for that. That's it. Now, Pobra, you used recently bequined one of these young babies. What young little used before? I don't know. Who used to be with Alamlou Yadi? From Yadi, the young dog, we know. You don't even know, you used to be with Alamlou Yadi. They're all of us from our time. Wow, we all have the status factor. Let this guy go. We're happy. You ain't got the status factor, what do you do? He's not. He's not. He's not. I'll say this. We're retargument, dude. I had a little, listen, I had a little oozy version of the situation. Oh, that was you. Yeah. Because what is a cypher? I was a cypher, but I wasn't offended by that. I'm going to be offended that he don't want to rap to that. That's not what he want to rap to. What? A mass appeal. That's not really a beat to see. No, no, no, no. It makes sense for him. It makes sense for him. No, it makes sense for him. What you're not mad at is that. I have other gangs, so I'll beat you to rap to the freestyle. It was a mass appeal. You got it. It was a mass appeal. It was a mass appeal. It was a mass appeal. It was a mass appeal. It was a mass appeal. I'm a memory man. I'm a memory man. I'm a memory man. I saw it too. And what happened? Let's describe this. I'm not rapping to that. And he said, why is that rapping to the breakbeat? So listen. He's still what it had done. Twitter started blowing up on my Twitter. He started getting out of hand, everybody dissonally. And he joined us. So I want to see what he says while I check this traffic. Because I got to make sure I'm on point before I do anything. I was just going to stay focused on being on point. I know who I am. I don't want to be looked at as the first thing I've played ever. And I'm not going to be looked at that way. Absolutely. So when I checked the thread, I was like, yo, yo, because it's getting out of hand. My fans are going hard on him like, yo, you know, they're doing this. They want to kill him. Yeah. So I'm like, yo, I'm like, listen. Pick up to him, man. He ain't he ain't got a round of that. If he don't like that, he doesn't like that. That's what I put. That's real. Then I wrapped away what he feels like it's comfortable. So that made him join in. It's a yo DM me. We damned each other. He said, listen, man, anything I can learn from you put me on. And that's giving me something that's real as fuck. That's real as fuck. That's real as fuck. I said, I said, you know what? We didn't know that. I said, I'm going to do a joint with you. My fans may get mad, but the only thing that's not yet helped me. The difference is, same thing. I'm not going to make a record that I can't let lead the studio to me and him on the same level. I just like your way today. You got us going. You're not going to compromise yourself. You're going to work. No, but that's the thing about between the law. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When you work with Prane, or you work with Pete, these brothers are so professional. Or you got to do a sentence of vocals and then relax. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. He's a fucked real life. I said it to Pete to make sure I was doing it right. I love my wife inside. I believe in myself and all that stuff. But I want to make sure I was doing it right. So I said to him for approval and I go, yo, did I do it right? He goes, oh, that's going to be a hit. It was a hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Big hit. Road to the riches a lot of people in the circle have said they've given them the I gave them that record. That's all good He did the That's what it's all about who made it bounce that way who made your echo sound that way who made your voice sound Funky that way Molly did it and that's all that matters to me, right because that's what makes me be Premiere in order to be to stay doing it the way I'm doing for the rest of my life and in my passing It's because of how I study a great one. So whatever you brought to him is what you brought to him He still made it glow. The gurus always say that. Yeah, you and Eddie Sanjo make everything glow Sanjo he said I just laid my part down, but you make it light up Molly makes things light up so no matter what you bring them or you game everything He made it light up and without the light this darkness. I want to be in light. What do you all think about like the separation of sampling and hip hop To now. I mean does it matter? We understand the rules and the sample law. I mean I understand the sampling and Finance you just it takes away the soul me personally. I think sometimes it though. You just get ill with just sample What am I cutting it? So he's nobody knows what it is and if it's bad, you're still sampling You may go back and just get the year still sampling. Yeah Which is what which it yeah, the tops. Oh, I mean we're lost because we're not predicts in little little Oh We know now The safety zone versus and then if it's a point where we got to do it and it's really that that that's that important I Got mad clearance is now no we got no money. We can't clear anything Like I said he taught me scratch folks if you just listen to a lot of my joints This is me scratch You were doing radio already with Molly mall. I'm like damn this new guy Pete rock He's nasty because Molly had a certain scratch style right? I'm gonna throw this out there kind of founding. I'm a smoke a camel cross In our face This is just give us cancer people mid-thaw okay, we thought Got it fuck with the way You leave it You good When we did the record the record that we did together I Say I think that I was the first person to ask you to cut up Guru's vocals was I will send me everything right was the first person do that or no no No, but after his death that's what I'm saying Yeah, okay, you send me everything. Yeah, no, he had hosted mad me stays for me Yeah, K slay and I was honored K slay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, K slay DJ No, if it was guru DJ was K slay K slay damn your memory really isn't back I think DJs have ill memories Yeah, we have some memories. I apologize fact no But your What? Yo. Oh, they took passes away. There's no policy needed when you have this. So, you can't get this at a policy. A policy is on getting ever. That's your only soul one million records. So, you think it's about a stop. Listen to that. Jesus. But I, but go back to Mark. You passes away. Yeah. What's this man? I forgot his name. Oh, We gotta clarify that. He's the real soul. So sorry, actually the bi- I would say this, but so long makes these claims. And then where does premier stand on these claims? All like, I'm not sipping all the type of stuff. Yeah. I put it to you like this. People can yaps say what they wanna say and all that type of stuff, that's all cool because I don't have none to say when it comes to that. But if old boy does need that, then I'm have a lot to say. To problem. Civil and planned. That's my Bella check moment. Herge. That was Bill Bella check the. Anything's done? That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. We love you. We love you back. And we love you and everything you meant to hip hop. And then you know, it was a funny moment. Well, I don't know what everything I mean to hip hop. I'm gonna say it. No, everything you meant to hip hop. I apologize. Everything you mean to hip hop. And you know, it was a funny moment for us in hip hop when we got to here like, you know, there's like, yo gangsta. And you know, put it in the room and then. And tension, you know. And then this guy, we never, cause we, it's similar to how pun. Like when pun died, I walked to his casket and they told me I said. Put all the jewels. Yes, yes you did. Cause I thought the casket, he most of your homes, the casket's at the front. Yep. Here's in the middle of the floor. So, fuck off. Maybe on the floor. Yep. So when I walked in, I was like, oh, he's right there. Yeah, he's right there. And the casket was, I've never seen the casket like this. Okay. I never seen the casket like this. The casket was short and super duper wide. And he had all his T.S. chains around his hands. And then look like he was kissing the stock cause I lived to put it up like. That's good. And that's my point. My point to bring it to self was when I went to puns casket, people told me that puns suffered. The song for what? Puns suffered. Right. And now he's in a better place. And I didn't know what people meant by that. So when I heard, you know, Google pass. Yeah. And I've never seen Google suffer. Not. So I mean either. Me either. Okay. So everything was just a strange tough. Not just me, everybody in the out. It felt like it's not the fans who we are massive. It's strange to everybody. It's strange to me. It's strange to the fans because old boy don't know my man. Like I know my man. We know him well. Yes. If I really wanted to grade dude on a five quiz question there, I guarantee you they'll fail that be answer. Simple and plain because you had to really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really know my dude. So you will fail. I can watch you right now and make every little sense. Simple questions. Not hard ones. Simple questions. He's going to fail and it's going to also be multiple choice. ABC or D. I'm not going to pick the right answer. And I know this because I know this. And I know him. I know both of them. So that's why I don't entertain him because anytime he wants to ever go there. I'm here. If I'm not here, I'm here. You feel me? Thank you for that. I'm getting so much right now. Now we'll not say his name. It's no worthy of thank you. Thank you. Because hip hop needed to head that. Hip hop really needs to head. How can we make him do that? When things is the right move, I know what it is. I got to write people around me from legal to my management, to my artists, to the street. Me even being in the street. I have a stream mentality that keeps me grounded. And I have a mom and dad, and sisters, and niece. I'm not feeling like a five-year-old son. Who's my dude? Shout out to his mother. She's your point. Everybody. Like, where's that connected on? Making sure we don't ever fuck up with this social media stuff, making us look like we're fools. I ain't going out like, I'm from here. That every motherfucking. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. I'm a fucking DJ. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. For me and this guy to the right of me started this. We sat down and we said we want to only give love to the legends. The legends that hip hop. All the great. And you guys are the impident of legends. This is the pinnacle. And I can't thank you enough. Like, both of you guys have gave me beats. And that's crazy. It's crazy about this. It's crazy about it. I still can't do that tonight. I still owe you. Yeah, we did. We did. I still owe you both. Because I love you. No, I love you guys. Because I'm definitely owe you all. He said he got you. I'm a star in the game. I saw. Would that beat tonight? Please give me that. That beat is crazy. Please give me that. Yo, man, dude, I was kind of people. Yo, man, dude, I'm bad. I'm bad. You got a mic here. You got to give me that. Give me the mic. Because I'm more peaked than no. So he's still got it. So no. He's about to open up the club. No, man. I really want to do this for your album. Pete, for man, if it wasn't for you guys, I probably wouldn't have a childhood. And this is real shit. Appreciate that, man. And that's real shit. I really love you guys. But you gave us a joint that we love. I want to do a party cut. You know what happened? I wanted to do a party cut. I was the first to meet you. Who ever goes first to me and who ever goes last has the most pressure. I went last. That was that error. Just right now. Listen, right now, we do a party. After a party? No. It was nature pun, cam. And then I'm the last. Yeah. What all you want to do? No, dude. But you know what? My whole life, my whole career, it makes sense. I have a question. If it was for you, what is it? What's the question? That's the song. He said, that's why I never do a song with you. Was that direct to anybody? Was that just hate? No. You're talking about somebody, bro. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. He's super mad. I know he was talking about somebody. Was it direct to somebody? Oh, it's because you know it can also be universal. No, no. He's talking about somebody. I know this guy. Oh, it's talking to me. Like, you know, that's why I'm not talking about somebody. It was like Joseph on the block. Yeah. This is very true. Because the thing about it is this. I'm very credit. Mm-hmm. Pretty me. I'm sorry. Sometimes you gotta be. I'm very credit. So, I don't give a damn off if you try and to come up. And you take a slight shot at me. I'm coming to fuck it. I'm body and you want to wreck it. It just makes me go very bad. Right. But that's what I am. When I met him, this is how you looked at him. He had all these twists in his head. I did. I did. He had a handband on. He had the front door. Yo, we got a session up at D&D. Yo, for me, I love your stuff. Yo, Jose Luis. Oh, you know what I'm saying? He's not know. Jose Luis, how you doing? He's like, yeah. He's like, yeah. He's like, yeah. He's like, yeah. Please. Please. But the fact that I was in LA. You're a fool off. You're right there. LA was really bumping with a lot of D&D at that time. Right. Because it was early. So, we don't really know where he is yet. We just know Jose Luis got it. He was just like, yeah, right. He was in the rap. He was like, yeah, we're in the rap. We're in the rap. We're in the rap. That was the joy. I didn't even know rock him around. Like, emberls, emberls, emberls. That's the rap. It's the rap. It's the rap. It's the rap. It's the rap. It's the rap. That's my first meeting in him. Not Jose Luis on the hook in Noriega. He goes, Jose Luis. Yeah. Like, don't forget. A little dip is the reason why you got rid of him. And I just sit on the shoulder right there. But the song was already out where it's like, I'm going to do the first verse. And that's the verse that made him taste all. Jose Luis got it. I'm going to go, Jose Luis got it. I can't believe it. I got it. I got it. I got it. Permanente. He just did a B for you right now. Yeah, yeah. Let me tell you something. You know what? We got this song where we make a B together, which we've never done. We've never done that together. Oh, it's awesome. We start things at Dream Channel. Let's do a start that right now. Who in the world is? You know. You know. You know. I don't know if you know. I don't know if you know. I don't know if you know. But wherever it's date, you are out fly there. Like this is a fact. That part. And I would just love. Thank you. Follation. Black poets out. Black poets. Oh, they. No, no problem. You have to find that. You have to find that. You have to find that. You have to find that. That verse. But this is the reason why. You are so much of an important producer. You can go and you can work with Christina Aguilera. Absolutely. And then you can turn around. And then you still care. I love black poets. Listen, I love music. I love music. That's real shit. Listen, I love music. I think I get to consider it. I'm going to check. I'm going to check. I'm going to check. What is the best thing? Just what it is. I got to get to it. I fucked up too. I like this. I'm in Maui. I like this with all styles of music. Because I am into country. Blues and gospel. Rock, Paul and Rob. And Paul and Winston. Yeah. Pravew is the town. I would drink. No. Yeah. Charles, DJ Scooby the way. DJ Scooby the way. No, no. No, no. Let's talk about your lead story. But the lead story, but even that. That's when it was like, now's an epidemic. What an epidemic then. And it was something that you just did every occasion. Like going out to a bar and having a ride. I don't think every day I'll, you know, I got work to do. I've been to the hand on estate focus. I'm a five year old son. I'm focused. But, I'm a five year old son now. That 50, yeah. Look at you. You still fucking. I was thinking of questions. I'm expecting. I'm going to open the cover. Yeah, wrap it up. I'm going to finish this story for you. So, I mean, so a lot of the things, again, that are just out of control or just way publicized or promoted on a higher pedestal. Yes. I already did all that stuff. It's about living past that and being able to still function on what's the matters that keep you in the longevity bucket. I want to be in the longevity bucket. I don't want to be in the eye, you know, you had your time bucket. Right. My bucket, I want to go all the way even again when I'm gone. It's still hot. Gain starts still hot. I keep gain starts still hot because I care about not just his legacy and I legacy as a team. But his son, he has a 16 year old son. I'm making sure his son's eating. I'm making sure his son's getting everything that his father's has. I'm going to feel right that I owe my motto is this. I can sleep at night. That's my motto. That's the most important thing. Sleeping at night. Yes. I can sleep at night. A lot of people, you can go through. People don't understand that. Yeah, when you go to sleep at night. You know what I mean? I have nightmares like anybody else. But my nightmares are clear from how I analyze what I woke up to. Are you handing in business? Yeah. You can sleep at night. You love you, man. My mind's strong, man. And I'm going to end this podcast by I can't thank you brothers. Thanks for having us. For helping me. Thank you. For having us. For helping me personally because my career can be complete. I can never complete my career without having a beat rock beat. But I have an upper-mid beat. Appreciate it, bro. And hip hop is what I want to continue to represent. I want to continue to stand by. I can't believe 25 million. And I fucking hate this guy right here. I hate me, bro. You knew you had a 25 billion plaque? You said it told me on Wednesday. No. Damn, you deserve it. I'm a good friend. You deserve it. I fucking want to surprise you. You deserve it. I'm gonna surprise you. You deserve it, bro. I'm gonna surprise you. I'm gonna surprise you. I know that. I love you, dude. I'm gonna be right there. I love you, dude. I love you, dude. I love you, dude. I love you, dude. I love you, dude. I love you, dude. I can't believe it. 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That's beyond rap. This is a podcast. They should make it platinum though. Why don't you make it gold? That's what you're talking about. It was on your phone. Gold $25 million. It's not $25. That's true. $500. You know what you're at? You're at the West like that. Right, right. You're at the West like that. Let's look at this. Relax. Relax. I can't. That's wrong. You know what? To be accurate. Hold on, hold on. He actually is right. It should be. It should be. It should be. I'm just happy to be here right now. You're probably at the end of the day. And listen. Give thanks, man. Give thanks. To what the best producers of all time have just now sat down. Absolutely all the drink champs. And having Jim being the gym and you begin of Jim being. Yeah. You're supposed to come in and cut the chat and everyone have a one more shot. That's all a shit. I mean, I'm going to do a shot. I'm going to see it going. Because we're going to kill the guys right now. At the end of the day and we're going to say and watch the battle. Thank you. Because when I seen the battle and when I seen that this, they said this is the first time. Excuse me. This is Bob. This is the whole thing. This ain't life. This is going to do life. No, my brother. Yeah, I definitely got to give that a shot. Give a shot right, man. All right. Careful. But when they said that this is the first time. News is as bad old. No shot for you. I felt terrible. I felt terrible. They said this is the first time the producers first. And I knew that your guys have done this. I knew that just blaze it actually had done it with our alchemists before. Yeah. And so I wanted to actually big you brothers up. Got that. Because I understand what it is. But I also understand that Swiss also knows. He is a student again. He's a student again. He's a student again. Oh, good. Because he never said that. He never said that. He never said that. I love you brothers. I love you brother. I love you brother. If you want to focus, if you want to focus, go, don't work. I see your relax. I see me. Because these are the two of the best producers of all fucking time. The people rock and premiere of best producers of all fucking time. I mean, it was great, too. Take that pick. Let's take that pick. Drop. Uh-uh. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.