NSYNC Secrets: Joey Fatone on Lou Pearlman, Band Drama & Fame

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Using the code ATOM at checkout, fastgrowingtrees.com code ATOM. Now's the perfect time to plant. Let's grow together, use ATOM and save today. Offer valid for a limited time, terms and conditions may apply. From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the ATOM Corolla Show. Atom's guest today, Joey Fatone. Plus the news with Rudy Povic and now, Atom Corolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on the choice because on mandate, get it on. Thanks to tuning in. Thanks to all the friends. I'm Joey Fatone in the studio. Got a really cool multi-part dock out and it's well done. So congratulations called Boy Band Confidential. It's available on HBO Max and Investigation Discovery and it is worth your time. I make docks so I don't like cheap docks or ones that look cheap. I like ones that... I don't know, I'm sorry. They have to look at the information has to be there but the aesthetic and everything has to be there, the flow. So good on you. Yeah, thank you. We were actually meticulous about it. We didn't want it to be, again, too cheesy. We didn't want it to be too dark. We didn't want it the way the edit was going to be or the recreations and all this other kind of BS. So, you know, myself and my manager came up with this kind of idea of doing this and wanting to get a group of different people together and convinced, tried to convince a couple of guys because obviously they didn't want to talk about it. They said, hey, we're not trying to talk about dark things or, you know, kind of just let it happen. Let's tell your story from the beginning from you when you were born to all the way up until what you've been doing, what's been going on, how you've been and, you know, what the future holds. The bands and there's so many there. I mean, in sync, obviously Backstreet Boys, 90 degrees, Boys and Men. They're all, there's so many there. A couple of things that's interesting. First off, it really kind of puts you in a place in the 90s where you're like, oh, yeah. And then also when you get older, you start hearing about guys 14 years old, 17 years old, 15 years old. And you're like, oh my God, everyone, everyone were kids. Yeah. I mean, you know, 22 year olds, the oldest person basically. Yeah, pretty much. And that's, it's insane. But it's also, then you realize everyone's story is sort of, you know, not like, well, my dad's a lawyer, my mom's a surgeon and we lived lavishly. Like everyone's just like 13 and kind of vulnerable and looking for a dream and sign anything that's put in front of them. Pretty much. And obviously the people know that. I mean, Lou Perlman knew it for sure. There was a doc on Lou several years ago and Lou is, I mean, kind of, his life's kind of crazy and it ended up kind of crazy too. I mean, he was a great businessman for himself, as I like to say in that sense. So he, yeah, it was one of those things where, you know, later on in life, you start to see where, what the real intentions were and what happens. You know, first it was, oh, you know, I want you to be a big star and let me show you what you can have. Yeah. You know, I'm the man in my Rolls Royce. Yeah. And he has this thing, you know. And then lo and behold, though, you know, with the doc, you know, and obviously touches with Lou, but it's interesting to see where, you know, a lot of the groups came from Lou, but how we all have these kind of linear, you know, unparalleled kind of stories, but how some of them go a little bit differently than what they were doing. Well, he did in Sink and Backstreet Boys, right? I didn't Sink, Backstreet, Oat Town, a group called Take Five, a couple of groups that were even in the process making while he was even in jail, which is brilliant. Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. He was still trying to do groups after that. And there was all these LFOs, another one, I believe, there's another group called C-Note that was out there. So again, all these boy bands that he was trying to do in Orlando as things were going down. He got busted for basically a Ponzi scheme, essentially. Yeah. Yes, he was basically telling a lot of people, hey, I got Backstreet Boys, I got in Sink, I'm investing money, you should invest in me too. So it took a lot of people's like, literally all their 401ks or their life retirement funds in from Orlando, from Florida, and literally took all these people's money and just were printing out fake printouts, had a whole bunch of phones that were just operating and just calling and just leaving messages. And he would have fake, you know, stocks and saying, this is going up, you want to stay, you don't want to pull out money yet, just keep it in there. It's kind of crazy. And maybe it is crazy, but I mean, I always thought about this when it came to the Manson family. So the Manson, Charles Manson is living for free in Southern California in the late 60s on a ranch in Chatsworth. He lives there for free and all he has is tons of runaway young chicks who are angry at their dad, a bevy of young, a new woman to have sex with every day, who's just going to come in here and worship him. But at some point he says, you know what I think we should do? We should go kill a bunch of people. And then what? And my thing is always like, you had a ranch, you had a bunch of runaways, you're going to blow job every other day. Why? Why are you breaking this? You got a pretty good thing going on here, Charlie. So why are we going up and killing the Tates and the lobby uncle's? Because then they're going to come looking for us and we're going to move off the ranch and next thing you know, you're going to be in prison for the rest of your life. Meanwhile, I'm just sipping on a Budweiser, getting a blow job on some free ranch lands. What are we doing here? And so Lou Pearlman, he's got a company. He signs bands that are wildly successful. He is basically the sixth member of each group. So he just as like, I'm a bandmate. I get paid. Plus I'm getting 51 percent of whatever. Why does he need to start the Ponzi scheme? I don't know. That's the millions and millions of dollar questions that have gone and don't know where they are. He literally nobody knows why. And obviously, you know, from the early stages, two in the story that he even before that with how he got his first couple of million or two, he I guess bought a blimp, put the Jordan symbol up and then crash it on purpose, obviously to get the insurance money. And that's how he literally fled left New York and moved to Florida and said, oh, you know, I want to be this big mogul business guy and sees these kids on plane and who are they? New kids on the block. And he's like, OK, that's a business end to that groups, boy band. And that's how that went down. So I guess in a weird way, it's kind of like Aaron Hernandez or whatever. You go, why do you have to kill somebody? You just signed a huge contract. And it's like the answer is because that's what I do. That's really the answer, right? It's it's greed. It's probably something that's in his mind that said this. I'm going to keep doing this. I don't know. Yeah, it's it's a crazy world in the sense of why why not stop? Why keep going? Or why go to the next level of whatever that is? And so things I learned watching the doc is one is Justin Timber. Timberlake's mom came up with in saying the name. And it's as everyone's first initial. Yeah, it's everyone's last. It's the last letter of our first. The last letter. Yeah, our first name. Right. So I had Justin for the end, Chris for the S. What are we at? And that's why Joey for the Y, JC for the C. Lansden, as we like to call him, was his nickname for the other end. But that's when we had Jason in the group and that's in the doc as well, where I haven't seen a buddy of mine who was actually the he was like the fifth beetle kind of thing as well. He was in an in sync and then left because he didn't want to be in it anymore. He thought it was a bubble gum, boy band, BS, but also he did take a look at the contract and when it was too much to even get into and he didn't want to deal with it. Well, he brought up a decent point or was brought up in the doc, which is so Lou Pearlman, who's Lou Pearlman. But by the way, I had it. I had a manager. I was just thinking about this. Me and Jimmy had a manager and he was Tom Green, Carson Daly. I actually had him first and I got him in Carson and Jimmy. Anyway, in in in managers, you're supposed to look out for your career, right? You know, right? It's supposed to. So it is illegal to have a 10 year career, a 10 year contract in California. You can't go sign this, your mind for 10 years. The max is five. So the contract with him that he made was a five year contract that automatically renews for another five years with no notice. Gotcha. And he doesn't notify you. And this is pre smart phones. So you would literally have to get a calendar from five years ahead. Figure out. And like circle, you have to get it. You have to get posted and put on your refrigerator from five years from now. So during this day, because you got a two week window. And if you don't and he doesn't say anything and it renews. So this kind of weird, sneaky shit goes on all day, every day. And he was he wasn't Lou Pearlman. He was just doing what he was doing. So he offers up a shit contract. You got a bunch of 15 year old guys who are literally just hungry to be anywhere. Sign it. One guy goes and gets a lawyer to look at it and goes, are you kidding me? This is insane. But then the question remains, if you won't sign it, you're 15. How much juice do you have? He can just go get the next 15 year old. Exactly. Who wants to sign it? So it's not say it's it's it's not like saying if you'd only got representation. If you've got representation, you might not be there. Well, again, in back then, there was no social media or anything like that. So you couldn't get anything out there to a broad audience if you wanted to. Right. It was very difficult to do that. So this was the opportunity. So it's like, you know, damn, if I do damn, if I don't, you know, am I missing the opportunity because he's like you said, he's going to find somebody else. And you go, damn, I need to do this, maybe. So how and your friend who came on camera, which is nice, because sometimes people have hard feelings. You know, I mean, it was kind of philosophical about it. He didn't seem like he wishes he was in the band, I would say. I don't know who wouldn't. Right. No, he said it pretty simply in the sense of, you know, back then thinking he was glad he made the right decision, of course, not knowing how, you know, to the peak and the craziness that we were going to go through the journey as far as in sync. Yeah. But yeah, it would have been nice to have the money. He said 100 percent, you know, that would have been nice. But again, you know, he's the nice thing is, he's come to those terms where it's like, you know what, I'm cool. I'm OK. But damn, it sucked that I didn't. Right. But I'm OK with it. I'm not I'm not like dwelling on it or trying to be like, you know, well, I should have been the the fifth in sync member and, you know, I'm going to cash in. I said, you know what I'm saying? He's just doing his thing, which is great. Is that where Justin Timberlake came in? No, Lance came in. Oh, Lance. That's right. Lance and like Lance was the one. Arkansas or somewhere. Mississippi. Mississippi. Worst cities. Worst states to be gay in. Arkansas, Mississippi. Bible Belt right there, baby. That had to be a struggle. It was it was tough for him. And as he says, actually, yeah. And it's interesting, he said, his family went to church three days a week, which is incredible. And back then being gay. It's incredible. It was tough. Yeah. And his mom was always like, did I do something wrong in her mind? Yeah. Yeah. And he said his grandparents actually took it a lot easier, which, you know, you think in even older, they probably even had a hard time, but they were they were pretty much OK with it. But you mean, all right, you found out early, pretty early on, I guess, at least chronicled in the dark. You were staying with him. So without hanging out, walk up, freaking, what was I doing? And we were actually at a party and we went to his household, a bunch of people. I passed out in one of his guest rooms, got up to leave to go to my house, knocked on his door to say good night. So you see later, wasn't his room when somewhere else wasn't in the room, went outside, wasn't in his office. He was sitting there with a buddy, his sitting on not naked, thank goodness, but sitting on top of him. And I was like, hey, and I would have the door. I was like, I started creeping the door close. I go, I'll see you later, man. Have a good night. I was like, no, no, no, we're not doing anything. It's like surprise. I was like, hey, man, he goes. This is how long into being in knowing this is the height of the career, basically. This is when we're starting to do a lot more stadiums and stuff like that. I want to say probably in like, was it 99,000? So he and he's not out. And he was in the band before that. Yeah. He was out to anyone. The no one in the band knows. No, nobody, nobody knew in that sense. And he's like, hey, man, don't tell anybody else. I said, listen, I'm not saying nothing. I said, your mother's going to kill you. But whatever happens happens. I love you, brother. I don't love you, but I love you. And what do you do behind closed doors? It's none of my damn business. So you do you, bro. But I'm not saying. And another funny thing is that one of my best friends I've known since kindergarten, same thing came out to me and told me it's like, and it took him years to tell me because he was afraid like I was going to be mad. I do something like I don't care. It's like, right. And then I looked at him like, dude, was I ever attractive? You didn't frickin hit on me. I was like, shit, what the hell was I know? I was that was not your type. What the fuck? So kind of funny. But yeah, I was always like, dude, you do you, man, has nothing to do with me. And that's kind of how we went through it. And he never said anything to the guys until later on. He wanted to talk to him about it. Would you notice, though, with kind of girls and groupies and that kind of stuff? He would hang out with girls and even had a girlfriend. He had a Daniel Fischel from a boy meets world. She was that was they were dating. She was head over heels for him. Wow. She wanted him to be the first. She says it in a bunch of interviews. And he was like, I want to save myself for marriage. Lo and behold, he finally later on as as obviously he couldn't wait no more because she wanted to frickin basically rape him, I guess, basically the sense because she wanted to have sex. And he was like, I don't have any interest. And that's kind of how it was like found from her, I think, from her standpoint. And then, yeah, it was interesting because he kept it pretty good because there were girls that were hanging out with them. And he even had friends from Mississippi that would hang out or be on the road. Sometimes that were girls and they didn't say anything or anything like that. They just hung up. I'm like, oh, maybe that's one of the guys, you know, one of the girls he's hooked up with. Right. All right, cool. Never thought of anything of it. So what was the big like, give us a height of the heights in sync story. Like, what was the biggest like, oh, you know, I don't know. Let's say. Yeah. In what direction are we talking? No, I guess. I guess what I'm saying is this, like, you know, you run into. David Bowen, he gives you a thumbs up or something. You know, the weird stories like that. There's tons of those. I mean, like one time they're selling out X amount, Wimbledon Stadium, three nights or whatever that is. I mean, one comes to mind as a few actually had my one. One's I thought was really cool. We're practicing for the Grammys and it's this whole acapella breakdown. We're literally in our bathroom in the dressing rooms in the arena and we're practicing practice. And also the door opens up and we turn around. It's Paul Simon. And he just stands there. We just stopped singing. It's like, no, no, no, keep going. That's why I came in here. Listen, it was just the coolest. Right. You know, Paul Simon walks in and to you stuff like that. I mean, gosh, Super Bowls. Another one. One of the biggest things it was with Aerosmith and Brittany and Nelly and Mary J. Blige, which was another just, you know, one of those pinnacle kind of a cool things. One funny one. Me and my manager, Joe, who we'll talk to later on, we went to go see Aerosmith. And this was actually after we did Super Bowl and Steven Tyler's out there. I said, Hey, man, I said, Hey, mind if I come see the show? I said, Yeah, get your tickets. And Joe's like, Hey, man, is you met Stephen for? Yeah, we've done these things. He says, come backstage. He's like, All right, Stephen comes in. Nice. This guy's like, yo, you got to take a shit. You got to do anything. Here's my dressing room. You have a sticker. You come back here. If you need to do anything great, I'll see you later. But it goes on stage. But it was just cool that they're, you know, when you when you're on the same level or appear like that, it's the weirdest thing to do that. Because you know, years ago, I watched their videos back in the day. Yeah, the real impact is when you were watching them. Yeah, I remember once being backstage at a K-Rock event. And I was just doing a character on the morning show out here. But at some point. Duff or slash or like one of the guns and roses guys came up to me and he goes, are you Mr. Bertram from the radio? And I go, yeah. And he goes, oh, man, Axel is going to blow his mind. He thought you were like 50 years. I'm like, Axel Rose. He's got questions about me. I'm going to blow his mind. Right. Are you nuts? Because I was, you know, living in my crappy apartment, my roommates and appetite for destruction was triple platinum. And yeah, so that those are the ones that really get you. Yeah, is the ones you watch. Yeah, even the same thing with Kiss with Gene Simmons. I've run into him many times and a few times. It's the funny is a great guy. It's just random, you know, people that you never hang out before, especially when you go to Adam Sandler's Christmas party. So this holiday parties where there's random people as a picture have with me, Marilyn Manson and vanilla ice. Why the hell would the three of us be in a picture like this? I don't know. It's hysterical. But but it's the pageantry of life. Like it's the crazy part. It's the fun part. It's the fun part. I mean, yeah. And that's again, you know, with those dark sides, come those fun sides and come those upsides, those, you know, those access things that, you know, people don't get access to. And I love bringing friends of mine like that to bring them to things like a Kentucky Derby or things like that, where they would never get access to what we do or never get access to be on the millionaire row. Watching the horses right there, you know, right there with the finish line and standing next to, you know, Travis Kelce, you know, those other people like, this is like surreal. And it's like, no, this is just we're all having a good time. We're all here. Yeah. It's it's cool. So so Lou Pearlman always accused of basically being a pedophile or molester or whatever, but he ends up going to jail for financial things. And they're never able to really get that to stick on him. Yeah. No one ever really knew. And I think that's something that that even for me, maybe, and I obviously joke, but it's probably true. Maybe I was too old for him to hit on me in a sense, you know what I mean? Because I never saw a lot of things that other people saw, especially in the interview and the things that, you know, like, Ashley Parker, Ashley Parker talks about from O-Town. So there's a couple of things where you're kind of like, oh, shit, I didn't know that. You're like, wow, OK, well, OK, I never saw that. And he was always that guy. I don't know. He never he never was. I never got that sense of him wanting to like be like the like the pervy kind of guy. But like maybe behind a closed door, but I'd never seen him behind a closed door with somebody else before saying for me, I always had somebody there. I mean, I guess maybe I was raised a little bit better, you know, hanging out with some old dude by yourself in a room anyway. Let's be smart about it. But it was just the accusations of it and stuff. Again, for me, I can speak of what I've never really seen much about that, where it was. But yeah, he was off to me in a sense. It was just that it felt like he was that lonely guy or was that lonely kid that never got a chance to be a kid. Yeah, you know what I mean? And then have friends now that he has money. Hey, I can be your friend now. Let's hang out. It's like that mentality. And I think of it like, same with Michael Jackson. He has a mentality of a child. It's we it's I don't know. It's bizarre to me, but maybe some people didn't have those childhoods and stuff like that to want that, I guess. The and I don't I'm not sure what the schedule is for in sync and Timberlake and all that kind of stuff. But you see as a backstreet boys at the sphere and there, you know, and I went and it was a great show. It's great. And you go, oh, well, in sync could definitely do that. And there's lots of money. And I assume you would want to do that. And it's always about sort of getting everyone on the same page. Yeah. And then I guess there's a couple of sides. First off, it's it's. The money that has been left on the table by bands that didn't get along or wouldn't get behind me. You could fill the Suez Canal with that much money. It is absolutely insane how much money bands will leave on the table because the one guy doesn't like the other guy or whatever, whatever it is. And then and history is littered with those stories. Now, I don't. And there's there's real serious situations like the two brothers, the Gallagher brothers or the Black Crow guys, they hate each other and it's always a rivalry or whatever. I've never really heard anything about in sync. Everyone has everyone seems to be pretty copacetic. And then it'll be a situation like one guy goes off and gets real busy. Like I'm not going to get Jimmy to do the stage show with a man show anytime soon. He's got money. You get it. He's got I could get I could get Doug Stanhope maybe just advertising his original cast or something. But guys get busy. Guys make a lot of money and they do other things under understood. But this seems like a good time to get Timberlake back and to take over the sphere. I mean, I think it's just a good time to do anything with the group in general, whether it be the sphere, whether it be a residency, residency somewhere else, whether it be just a one off or something. I think for me, you know, I think I'm in a place in my life and I can only speak for myself as far as doing stuff. Definitely would love to do it. I mean, my kids, I got a 25 year old daughter, the one's 16. So I got one halfway. One's already out the door. The other one's halfway out the door. So I'm not thinking about family in the sense of I need to support somebody or any of that kind of thing. Now I'm having fun. Now I'm able to do things where the other guys all have kids and they're young. They're one, two, three, I think six or seven. I think Jay C. is the only one that doesn't. He's the smartest one, I think the only one that doesn't have kids. But I think that's what really people have never took that into consideration. I don't think. And I think when I did it back in the day and it was a struggle for me a little bit because my I didn't get a chance to really spend time all the time with my kid when I was on the road. And I think these they I think they want to. Well, a tour is grueling. 100 percent, you know that everyone knows that. But a residency is not quite true as grueling. True. Schedule wise. And then you want to ask other people, though, do they want to do a show or not? That's the other thing. Meaning, well, are they on the fence about it or is there other reasons? And that's the hard part about knowing specifically. Huel heading into springtime. You want to eat right, but it's hard when I'm busy. And that's why I love Huel's ready to drink full meals. My favorite is the vanilla flavor. I know sounds a little vanilla, but I'm a vanilla guy. They have 35 grams of protein, 27 essential vitamins and minerals as well. So it's all there. No artificial sweeteners, colors or flavors, gluten free. It's a complete meal. You can literally grab and go for less than five dollars. And if I got a little more time, I'll use their powder and blend it up with some fruit. Make a shake out of it, whatever you want to do with juice, do it with water. 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You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. Participating McDonald's while supplies last. I think that, you know, we have a society that sort of moves in cycles. We go, we love these guys. It's the biggest thing in the world. And it's, fuck those guys. Those guys are lame. We want to hear what Nirvana is doing. And then at some point they go, oh, we love those guys. You know, we just do this thing. So we're in the, we love those guys again. I know. Phase of your career. And so love. And that's why you see my ass running around doing it. Sing songs, sing it. If the guys don't want to do it. Again, I love performing. So I would love to do that. But again, it does make sense to try to do something. And there's a part where people think in a way like, well, I don't know if we could do what we did do. But you, this is not playing in the NFL five years after you expire. You guys can pull this off. Right. This is pretty doable. Correct. No, no, it's definitely doable. 100%. We've seen it. And then, yeah. And then so the question is, is, you know, you got five guys, you know, who's in, who's out, you know, and is it a timber like thing? Or is there more than? It's honestly mixed emotions, I think, from everybody, because it's the uncertainty of, of if it's going to work. Now, we all know it's going to work. I think I think so. But people still think that in the group. Also from either working too hard, the same thing I think Justin too is on, on the, in the sense of him touring. And that's why I take the sense of kids in that sense. I think he's probably burnt out and just wants to chill and not even want to tour. Now, if he tours, you know, does another album next month or does a tour, maybe I might be a little bit bitter about it. But I think what he's been doing is just kind of want to let low now and just spend time with his family. And I'm like, you know what, you can, you got to respect that. However you do say about the residency understood that we could probably do something. But again, that still takes time away from your kid, regardless if you're home or not, because you have the rehearsals and everything else. Would it make it easier? I would say so. But again, it takes five people to kick him in the right direction. I think it's, you know, it's interesting that the timing, like some of the guys, you know, would be like, OK, yes, let's do it. And some will say no. And then, you know, a year later, it'll flip flop. Three of the guys are like, yeah, let's do it now. I didn't want to do it before, but now I'm all for it. And the other guys are like, well, no, and that's the push and pull. And I think that's obviously the problem that we're having. I don't think we're on the same page yet. Yeah. I mean, you got to make hay while the sun shines. And I do this with comedians. So they go, I'm going to take the summer off. I'm like, you know, you're what the fuck? I've learned now. You stand around. You do nothing. You do nothing. You're not you're not a roofer. Roofers don't take the summer off. It's not just going to come. It's not going to come on your door later on. You know what I mean? The ones that's going to call you up in about two or three months or a year from now, if you're not doing anything, they go, oh, by the way, you know, I like what you did then. Maybe you can do this. Maybe. But, you know, strike while the iron's hot is what I obviously like to say in a sense. And we're not getting any damn younger. So yeah. And that's also. Irons rarely reheat 25 years later, but this iron has reheated and is hot now. And like I said, I don't I don't know just because I'm not astute enough in the boy band world to know. But I saw Backstreet Boys in at this sphere and it was packed and everyone had a good time. And I'm going to go apples to apples here. I'm not going to say, well, yeah, but this little indie band or something, I will say those are two bands. Pretty pretty apples to apples. And if one can do it, the other can do it. And by the way, if there's appetite for one, there's appetite for the other. I think there's always room. I think it's going to be the same people are going to come out of both shows. Well, that's the greatest thing and good for them. Same thing. I'm listening and knowing that a lot of in sync fans are going now to the Backstreet Boy fans because in sync is not doing anything. And they're like, you know what? Let's go see Backstreet and they're enjoying themselves and reliving their childhood again. And I think that's what it's all about for me for that for that instance of reliving that. And also those moms and older dads are now bringing their kids. Right. So now there this is a whole new thing. People sometimes don't even know that I even was in a group called in sync. They thought I was just in a movie and I did, you know, stuff for practical jokers. That's it. So it's interesting to know that some people don't even know that I was even in a group. They're like, one time somebody so funny. Somebody asked me one time they looked and said, hey, so what was it like working for Justin Timberlake? All right. I know it was great. I worked with Justin again. They don't know and it's OK. It's not a big deal. And I just thought I actually thought it was pretty freaking funny. I was like, yes, I worked for him. That was it was tough, though. He was a good guy, but he paid me well. Deadless people. Norm McDonald's been dead for three years. People still think I'm Norm McDonald. Did did did everyone like Lou ripped everyone off, but there was so much money that you could kind of afford a horrible split. Right. Yes, it was a horrible split. But, you know, again, as thank goodness we got wiser, like I said, and got out of that. So he was only we settled out of court and he only got like a very small percentage from that on. And thank goodness and everything else with that after the whole thing of the settling out of court, people have more eyes on that than ever. Then when we came out our album with no strings attached and went, you know, number one, that was post blue. That was right. That's a that's a good thing. It was a very good thing. We broke the record for most album sales with one point two in the first day, two point four million in the first week. Wow, which was crazy. Again, I think that was probably one of the last times that people ever went out online or went to like the Virgin Megastore and stood online to buy a tangible. Yes, don't do it anymore. So so you guys so Lou did not get you for an extended period of time. He got a good chunk in the beginning, though. We'll definitely say that. But but towards the end, thank goodness we we we went past that. Was there ever any relationship once the lawsuit was done? I mean, did anyone go, hey, we should go visit that guy in jail or anything? No, before he went to jail, oddly enough, me and my manager Joe were on a plane and Lou was on the same plane. He was a couple of rows behind me. Oh, Joe even said, hey, man, Lou's over there. And I said, oh, cool. I got up, said, hey, Lou, how's it going, man? Shook his hand. You doing all right? Cool. Good to see you, bro. I went and sat right back down. I was like, wow, how was that? I was like, what? I said, if it wasn't for him, I would have never had a career. So I'm not going to be a complete jerk to him. Yeah, he's an ass and I'm not going to really do business or really I'm going to be cordial. How are you doing? You all right? Everything good? Take care of yourself. That's about it. And we move on. I'm trying to think it was just a funny story because they just had this whole TMZ story about Jessica Simpson with her ex who was in the dock. Oh, Nick Lachey. Nick Lachey. Nick Lachey was all over the dock. And there was just a crazy story about Jessica Simpson, Nick Lachey sitting in first class together and how uncomfortable it was. Got to be interesting. Yeah, I you know, it's funny. It's bound to happen because you're flying first class. It's also bound to happen because you're not going to Muncie, Indiana. You're going to Maui. There's going to be some crossover there. It's bound to happen, but it is it is it is tough. But but you want to. And listen, I like you being philosophical about it because people don't do enough. They have their beef and they have their issues. And and then people earn that that beef and that issue. But there is a bottom line, which is you sold millions of records and and wowed millions of fans and made millions of dollars. And that guy who's a horrible guy over there had something to do with that in a pretty pretty big way. And you should not be totally dismissive. No, not at all. I mean, again, hopefully I would have gotten there. But I think with the help of Incinc, of course, and doing the things because I love performing and entertaining and stuff, leading me to where I am today. So I mean, you can't be mad at that. But of course, on the other side of it, I am, you know, upset. And, you know, we got what he deserved in the sense in the end and went to jail and everything else. And he died in prison in 2016. Some of that. It was. I looked it up. I think he spent about seven, eight years. Well, Lou's probably the kind of guy if you just looked at him, you know, not going to see his 80th birthday. But he wasn't he wasn't on Health magazine anytime soon. No, but it is also weird, too. Like they're guys that are sort of homeless, junky guys. You know, if that guy goes to prison, it's sort of a lateral move for him. The guys who travel in the limousines and eat at the fancy steakhouses every night, those are the guys where you kind of go. That's a big jump to prison. Like that is a big lifestyle change. It's a good eye opener for you. Yeah. So in sync, did they ever officially break up? I mean, how have we ever really officially? I mean, again, how can we officially break up when we just did a song not too long ago on the Trolls album, right? Did a song on Justin's album Paradise? I mean, it's one of those things where we did one off. People are like, are you guys going back together? It's like, no, it was it was a perfect timing for it. The music was right for it. It was just it just happened to be right for that. Now, it doesn't feel like it was teasing people. I'm sure it did. But, you know, again, it's one of those things where we got to really figure out and buckle down what the hell we want to do if we're ever going to do something. I mean, it's it's it's one of that that million dollar question of are we going to do something? It's crazy. Well, and we're still talking about it after all what 20 years. I mean, we only we've been I've 2001. I think it was last. I think I can probably put you in the camp of reasonable guy who wants to go out and get some work and make some money and enjoy. Enjoy it. And I'm I'm with you and I'm always, you know, I always think about Jay Leno because one time I was talking to Jay Leno and I said, oh, could you could I shoot this thing with you or do a thing with that or whatever? And he said, yeah. And I said, thanks so much. I really appreciate it. He goes, it doesn't need to be that complicated. And I said, you're right. It doesn't. I don't know why. And maybe it's publicists and maybe it's agents and maybe it's wives. It's a lot. Maybe it's other people. But it really doesn't have to be that complicated. It's pretty easy at the end of the day. And I think that's what it all counts now. It's more simplistic things now, I think nowadays, too. Like you said, it's just being more simplistic that makes things make sense. And it's just like, why complicate things? It's always funny when you see like a lot of these big, big, massive productions of something. And there's always like 80 million things will. About and then you do a small little indie thing and everything's fine. They got it. And they're done. And so what the heck? Well, it's weirdly like late night and the productions that used to go in and still do go into late night and you go over to Kimmels and he's taken over two buildings and you've been there and in on Hollywood on the Walk of Fame and they're all floors are filled with riders and PAs and food and everything and everything. And then you go do Gutfeld and Gutfeld is not even in his own studio. It's a studio that they use as another show during the day and then convert. It's not even a dedicated studio and they like roll his desk in and the seating or bleachers they pull out like a high school auditorium. And it's like there's nothing to it. There's nothing there at all. And I'm sitting around at 2 20, 2 15 going, aren't we going at 2 30? Where is there? They're not here yet. Where are they? And then tires comes walking in and then Gutfeld will come. Hey, how are you doing? And it would be like we're going today though. We're doing this race. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're starting right now. It's like everywhere else is all the pre-production and all the pre-interviews and all the here's your here's your manager and everything. Right. Here's your production guy and he talked to him. He's going to produce your segment. And at the end Gutfeld does a show that gets more eyeballs. So it can be Nirvana unplugged. Right. It doesn't need to be the pyro techniques. Part two. But just need all five guys though. You do. But it's also, I don't know. I feel like Timberlake is at a, look, I get it. If you're real talented guy and you're going out and taking the world by storm, then you're, that's going to happen. And it has to happen. It's like, look, if a guy emerges as a superstar quarterback and then his contract comes up like, Hey, I love, I love the Browns, but yeah, I got a lot of teams calling man. And I got to get paid. Like I understand that. I understand it. And, but I think Timberlake's at the point now where it seems like this is a better time for that. Things have cooled down for him a little bit. And this seems like a good, also seems like good PR for him. It feels good. It feels like it was a way to be embraced. Definitely don't disagree with you there. I mean, I definitely do agree with that in that sense. It just, it's, again, it's one of those things where, you know, whereas his head out, does he really want to go out there and do this again right now at the moment? Or does he, you know, again, is it a money grab? Is it more of a fame thing? Is it more of a good look thing or just the hell to do it? I mean, again, it's so many things that, and when I say all that, why make it that difficult? Yeah, it's kind of what you're saying. It goes back to that, though. It's not, it's not rocket science. I would kind of say it's because it's what you do. And any comedian, you can find some of the most famous guys just on a Wednesday night with 18 people in the room at the cellar just working out, you know what I mean? Because you go, what do you need all that shit for? You could fill Madison Square Garden. I do it, but that's what I do, though. And the people, and I don't trust the comedian who won't do it unless the place is a stadium, you know what I mean? Like I want that person working out. You know, that's a love of the game kind of thing. And, you know, so ultimately money's great and the experience is great, adulation is great and everything, but ultimately the answer is pretty simple. It's what you do. And the good news is, it's not roofing. It's not Mason, right? It's not, I don't know what your dad did. Telephone company was a cable splicer. They're manholes. You're not climbing down a manhole in LA interrupting dinner for a family of seven. You are, you're on stage, there's air conditioning, and you could even get a free Miller light. 100%. Put it on the rider. Free Miller light. And you could do a lot worse than that. 100%. I always say, I can be back doing you want fries with that or something like that. Like just really just, you know, going back into that. And I'm like, I made a name for myself to do things, to do what I love. And I'm going to keep doing it. I mean, why not? It's a blessing and it's also that curse to keep going. You know what I mean? And for certain people, when they get that height, they get that adrenaline rush. It's almost like an addiction. And when they come down, how do they come down off of it? And I think that's where some people lose their sense. And that's why I think for me, my optimistic is, like I said, I love performing, love doing things. So it's like, for me, I've never had that dip. People have asked me on time, you know, you've dealt with depression or something like that. I said, yeah, I've been sad, of course, I've all been sad, but I've never had that dark home because I know that there's always something else that I can do. I've never felt that way in that sense. So it's like, it's like always again, for the, for the, for everybody, the five, you know, getting together, it's like, we can do that. And I'd love to do that. But I'm always going to try to do something else as well, because I just love performing. And it's always been that way with, with you, which seems unlikely from where you come from. But I think it's just kind of in you. I, I, and I always believe, I mean, it's singing, comedy, dance, or working with kids. It's just kind of there. Or, or it's not there. Yeah, but it's not, yeah, true. And, but with singing, you have to have a voice. And that's the tough part. Yeah, you can't suck. That's the truth. I would say a voice, I would say a voice is like foot speed in that you can work on it a little bit, like we got a high school cornerback or something, kind of work on it, but you can't really just pull it out of nowhere. And if you are, if you ain't fast, you ain't fast. And that's the end of that. And if you can't sing, you can't sing. But if you can sing, you can always sing a little better. And you can maintain it. Always improve your craft. Yeah. And do you feel that way as a, as a singer? Yeah. Now I feel that way all the way around. Every time I'm learning different things, even from when, you know, doing things like I was hosting a live version of Price is Right at the ballies in Las Vegas during the day from two to four. Talk about interesting work. But that helped me with hosting gigs and dealing with people every day, whether they were sober, drunk, annoying, sweet, happy, how to find that fine line of going, I can cross that line just enough to make it funny, but not make it insulting. And that was a fun thing to do though, believe it or not. That was such a great learning tool for me. It was just again, just a repetition of just dealing with just different people every day and trying to figure out how to have that conversation and make you feel comfortable. God forbid if you're too stiff or whatever the case may be. And again, you've done that many years with other people and guests that come in, you see if they're too tired or too tense or they had a bad day, you can tell they may even want to be annoyed or whatever the hell. And how do you cope with that? You know, there's so many ways you can deal with it to either make them open up or just shut down real quick. I don't think enough people embrace that part of life where like I taught comedy traffic school for a while. And that was eight hours on your feet in a hostile crowd because they didn't want to be there. And they were sort of angry at you, which is, you know, it's not my fault, but it's still Saturday and we're still to YMCA and Kanaeho and you are here all day and sun shining and you're kind of looking at me. But I got a lot out of just standing there for eight. I mean, I did this before I had a career, but I knew it would help. Like I got that if you can do this, it'll be a good block, building block for what you might end up doing talking on the radio for two hours or whatever it is. If you can stand there for eight hours in that hostile crowd and win them over, then you could do a two hour radio shift, you know. And I think people need to do a little more of that. And yeah, even right now, I just went back to doing Broadway for a little while and I'm probably going to do some more again. But I did a show called Anjuliet and it's eight shows a week and I don't have a very big part at all. But the interesting thing to see is where you have certain people where there are artists and stuff like that try to do those eight shows a week. And again, learning that kind of stuff when I did Universal Studios, we were doing five shows a day. There were 20 minute shows, 20 minute set shows, but I was in fur and I was in like 100 degree weather. So to do that, literally prepare me to do literally outdoor venues within sync. It sounds crazy, but dancing for two and a half hours, sweating and doing the same show over and over again. Same thing with the Broadway where you're doing eight shows a week. Some people can't even, they don't even know that the work that it really goes into doing that show eight shows a week every day. You only have one day off and you're doing that for six, seven, eight months in a row. It's a grind, but it's a love. Like you said, it's one of those things where if you love what you do too as well, it doesn't seem like work anymore. Yeah. And also, I think the variety part, it helps every part. You want to be kind of a Swiss army knife, you know, and you might think, well, what does that have to do with this and what's this have to do with that? And I think it all helps and it ends up in the same, same place. So people say no a little too quick or they go, I'm not going to do that or they do, I don't need to do that. Like I go, you don't need to do anything. You don't need to get out of bed in the morning, but you should. You know what I mean? And I feel like way about washing my own car. It's like, I feel like, you don't need to do that. I know, but I want to because I think it helps for some reason. And there's a kind of problem solving and there's an adaptation part. There's like, you've got to learn. There's like a part two where you're like, you're the new kid on the block, part in the pun, but you show up and the production's already been going and people like, who's this guy? And you got to kind of ingratiate and figure out, you have to navigate, like go into a new high school or something. It's the same. It's always repeating itself like that. Always. Yeah, true. So how do you get, you start off in Brooklyn? Brooklyn, New York, and then moved with my family. We always visited Disney World in Florida. So we went there in 1990. And then lived there for very much most of my life. I lived here in California for about three years at one point and then moved back to Florida because my parents are still there, my kids are there. So it's been good. And what is, what age are you when InSync really hits the zenith? I was like 22, 23, right around that time because that's when I heard my first child when I was 23, yeah, in the height of our career. Do you do stadiums? Yeah. Now, did you appreciate it? And I don't mean that the alternative isn't being dismissive, but it's kind of easy just to go, okay, let's do the show. Let's get out of here, you know, kind of thing. Like, there's a way you cannot appreciate it. Many times, I'm sure. Mentally, when you know, you're doing the same show over and over again, yes, but I do and I have and I always do believe it or not crazy as it does sound. I'm always appreciated every time. Every time I get out on that stage, every time, it's not like, well, I sit there and I go, oh, I'm so happy. No, but it's like, you know what, it's like, shit, I made it. You know, every time I'm able to do what I love to do, which doesn't happen to most people nowadays, you know, they always have these aspirations of dreams. And to be able to do it every time I'm looking out there going, okay, you know what, even though I may not want to do this show right this second, right this day, but you know what, these people have paid money, they came out to see a good show, they're here to be entertained, they want to forget about their troubles. So now this is my time to as well to forget about my troubles, screw all that shit that I'm listening to, forget all that noise. It's just the audience and us. Let's have some fun. That's it. You know, it's funny I'm laughing because there are some comedians or some performers, some guests and when they have a show and let's say the show isn't very well attended, and so it's kind of a light audience. And then the comedian comes out and starts yelling at the people for not showing up except for yelling at the people showed up. The people he's got a beef with is the people that are home. He should go to their house and yell at them. Not these people. They showed up. It's such a weird mentality. Like you always have to appreciate those people. Like oh, how was the show? Well, you know, wasn't that crowded? Were there people there? Yeah, well, I'll be glad they came. Yeah. And also the worst thing I think you could probably read is like, oh, I saw Joey perform like, how was it? And he seemed bored. I think he was tired. Or something like that. Like you want to pedal that. Thank God that hasn't happened yet. Well, I think we're going to bring in your, now the guy directed. Yeah, he's one of you. Well, we both, yeah, we both co-directed. We both came up with this idea. A lot of times that mean my manager Joe, he's the side brain of reality, I would say, more of a numbers guy, if you will. So that's why I think we work very, very well together. I come up with the imaginary stuff and then he kind of brings me down a little bit to go, okay, here's this, here's that, don't do this. Maybe this is a good idea and really kind of hones it in. And that's what we did. I've opened up a hot dog place with him doing that called Fat Ones. What is, by the way, perfect. He was on camera a lot, Joe was in the dock. Yeah. Wait, give me your best hot dog. I just went through this with somebody. The best hot dog? Yeah. Well, it's mine. It's 100% Angus Beef. We do it and I do different ways though. Like what do you want? I'm simple though. I'm a catch-up guy, but I've done it where I've done a Reuben. I make a Reuben. I like a Chicagoan style. You like the Chicago? Yeah, I always liked that one. With the green, with the bright green. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I had one for first time million years. Now, how do you cook your dogs? On the grill. We have the snap. I usually have the snap or I'll butterfly them depending on what you have ingredients wise. So yeah, I will sometimes we'll do it, we'll butterfly them so the ingredients stay on. Usually when you bite in the cheese balls at real places. So a guy who likes catch-up on his hot dog opened a hot dog stand. That's like when I wrote a book. Isn't that crazy? People like, a guy who doesn't know how to read wrote a book? What the fuck? Well, I love hot dogs and I tried all these other ones. So that's literally what happened. We would literally come up with these concoctions and go, okay, that tastes good. Okay, that tastes good. But I like it simple, but you know, again, the chili dog is another good one. Where is the hot dog stand, by the way? Well, we used to have one in Orlando. We had a food truck, but I can't say exactly when it's opening up yet where, but you will know and you'll know exactly where it is when I finally tell people. But it's in a good area, which I've been trying to get. Finally, the contract is being signed as we speak. No BS. So that's why I can't say anything about it. But we got us a place that's going to be opening up very soon, hopefully within the next six to nine months. A hot dog place. 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Great job on the film. I think you said you just sort of started off as kind of a gopher almost for the band, right? Yeah I met Joey. I worked at Universal Studios for a while and Joey came in as a junior in high school. We all worked together at Universal. Me, him, Wayne Brady. We all worked in the same show and I went on. I was one of the first people to ever throw a t-shirt out into a basketball game or a football game. Me and six different guys and it turned into a business for me. So I just started this business, was doing really good. Joey started a band. I went and saw his rehearsal. I said this is never going to make it. This is terrible. The guy with the curly hair is terrible. The whole thing is terrible. Well yeah in the dock you basically go timberlakes not cutting it in this band. The weekly. Yeah we should go to the track later and you could pick some horses for me. Yeah I was off on that one. But yeah and then I got offered an opportunity to work with him but at the time I was working with the Bulls and Jordan and during the day or during the day I was at Universal and at night I was working in sports so I kept turning it down and then they sent me a VHS tape from Europe and I put it in and I saw all these girls chasing the bus and I was like it's really happening for these guys. Yeah. So that's when I said maybe I should work for them. So yeah I started off as an assistant for them. I forgot about the whole Sherman route. That was there for about two and a half years. Two and a half years. We started yeah we signed with what happened was his Backstreet Boys left BMG in Munich Germany record company and signed with Jive and when that happened that's when Lou and Johnny were like hey since you left the Backstreet Boys left them we have another group went and auditioned with them. They saw we signed with BMG and then started Europe because boy bands were popular at the time and right around that time in the States it was more grunge it was more nirvana it was you know Pearl Jam was all that. So what year are we talking about. We're talking about 96. Yeah right around there. Yeah 95 96 95 96. Right. I just graduated and joined the band yeah. 95 96. So I'm at K-Rock the biggest alternative radio station and probably cranking and that's all about Pearl Jam and Soundgarden and boy bands no or no fly zone over you know but a lot of it's also like an attitude like it was all sort of we you had like these bands because that made you cool and that was yesterday's band and that made you not cool. Right. So Backstreet Boys go to Germany first. They went first and they started basically doing shows there and that's when boy bands were accepted there and then when I think it was Hanson Spice Girls and Backstreet started coming to the States and that started getting a liking that's when we were able to get over there on the other side and that's when we came to the States and so two and a half years in Germany. Yeah I was klar yeah. And that's and that's I guess Hasselhoff's probably doing some German stuff a little later than that. It was before it was earlier than that but he was still he was doing those around Baywatch too was after Baywatch but he was still sexy there they still they still love them over there though boy. They still love the Hof over there. And so your two and a half years in Germany is just traveling from venue to venue. Pretty much we did it. We opened up for a rapper named TJ Bobo was his name and opened up for a couple different acts out there. Then we started doing like little tours of just small open venues and stuff like that. We did more of the radio shows and then when that started breaking though and then when we came that went to the States we never went back. When did you know also people kind of assume I think like for musicians and comedians that you always were this skilled you know. People weren't like people didn't notice. Right well it's kind of weird because then you go you know like a comedian you go well that's got a young Dave Chappelle and they told him couldn't come back to the club and they go well he wasn't funny wasn't that funny back then. Like when did when could you tell you guys were good. I think when we first started singing together vocally we were really good. I think we just we weren't polished as a group or as as as you know artists I would say and I think and it was funny because we didn't have like an a and r really all the time at us saying you need to be this or that it was more or less us finding kind of what we were and who we were as a group and that's kind of how it happened and then us just polishing it over the years with with being in Germany and then we got the big break for Disney. Disney channel gave us this big break because we were nobody's in the States. Backstreet Boys was popular there. They were supposed to do this big special on Disney. They turned it down. We picked up the scraps and we blew up after that and that's how kind of we got the big break before that. The one thing that you miss is they rehearsed the same four songs but literally over a year the same four songs for a year. So when they had their opportunity to go over to Germany they were so polished that if people were like wow back to your thing everybody goes oh it just happened overnight. Nobody saw him working same four songs every day and over and over and over. So did it you know there's part of it is tedious and boring. The other part is is I can do this in my sleep. I don't have to remember the whole new set and everything. So there's kind of an upside and then sort of a downside but would you guys cover stuff at the beginning? Yeah we did it. Well we had when we did the first thing we did a cover of The Beatles We Can Work It Out but we kind of made it our own in sync version and then we had like three or four originals. Then when we were doing some tours that we threw in like the Temptations. We did a Temptations set. We did a Beatles set and because we didn't have that money we only had like one album so what do you do you know an hour show with four songs adds up pretty quickly. So we had to do certain things obviously with more albums able to do our own songs after that but we still I think actually during every tour we kind of throw in fun things and covers that we do. Yeah I would I'm gonna recommend Spinners. I love the Spinners. Spinners. I like the Temptations a lot but people sleep a little on the Spinners but the Spinners are real good. And the Jester's too. As well yeah. He's a big duke. Oh yeah so you're like a Dion in the Belmonts kind of guy. Correct. Correct Frankie in the Amal. Yeah Frankie in the Amal. All that stuff yeah I do it's weird. It's so it's funny it's I don't know now if I heard any new music if I could put a timestamp on it but that stuff you can you can put about a four year boom like it wasn't before 55 was an after 60 it was like boom right there. Set that all were yeah yeah I loved it. Yeah I guess there's a simple sort of beauty to like run around Sue and stuff like that. I can't. I love I love it I love it back what they would also they could get away with shit like you take the song The Wanderer and he goes he's basically just wanders around banging everybody you know but there's a part in the song that's great he goes after he's done banging all this strange pussy at some point they'll ask him which one do you love the best and he tears open their shirt and shows them rosy on his chest which by the way they probably saw when he was banging on you know but it's it's pretty brash to go I like I like all kinds of women but this is what I know I know you're hoping I was gonna say you but it's rosy he tears his shirt open. Chuck Berry with my dingaling. Yeah even uh even Ricky Nelson with Travelin Man you know like they did a lot of they did a lot of stuff he had his girl in Singapore he had a stash. I get away with it but now they're just blunt though now which is even crazier they just say it yeah you know what I mean it's like hey like this but like this but and you're like what the hell that's art I think that was art back there that was no it was real art it was clever yeah it was clever I thought yeah they had to you know it was um it was well it was like knowing she would the Beatles turning into Norwegian wood and stuff like that like they had to kind of dance around the stuff now now you realize I it's a strange time but you have the president of the United States like standing in front of a podium and he's up there and he's like well we beat the shit out of those Iranians because they're pussies and I'm like yeah wow this would have been mind-blowing when I was like yeah yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't say anything like that. It is now but you still you have the like the mayor of any town who wins the Super Bowl or wins the NBA championship to go let's fucking go fucking like her. You're the mayor and you're a woman you're not supposed to be doing that but it it it's just on now yeah it's just no whole bars and again that's why you know reverting back to the to the 90s is always a good time because it was so carefree and there was censorship but it was carefree in that sense. Well doing I mean first off everyone's got a camera the phone in it and a phone and a camera in it now but you couldn't I mean it would have been really tough privacy wise trying to do what you did travel. It's just all eyes are on everybody now it's just crazy it's on it's on I mean again I maybe I'm okay with it because eyes were on us at a younger age I guess and I'm not very bothered by it anymore certain celebrity now or artists are like oh no I don't want to be in the front meanwhile you're the one that wanted to be in the limelight to shut up and take the damn photo. No I I totally agree and you know you should be flattered by it. But there's a time and a place for everything I mean. I guess I you know people are coming up and because they appreciate you and they're enthusiastic and they want to take a picture say hi or whatever and and it's all the motivation is all good and the only time I didn't take a picture with somebody is I forgot about this but I was standing in front of Kimmel's theater a million years ago and I was like walking down Hollywood and and these two middle-aged women go hey Adam Adam Adam Adam I go oh hey hey can we get a picture I go yeah you can get a picture and they go all right let's get and while we're getting it going they go you know I'm a I mean I'm well I'm my husband's a big fan I mean I don't care for you know but my he would love this he would love this picture and I go okay okay because you understand he loved the man I didn't care for myself you know what I mean I thought I go okay let's just get the picture we'll give it to her she goes she goes you know I thought it was offensive actually the I go that's it we're done and they go what what's going on and I'm like listen I know you're going to go home and tell your husband a story about me being a douchebag go right ahead this is the third time you've insulted me in our attempt to take this picture you should fucking figure it out because you got an issue and I left and we never took the picture hey it happens Joey had a situation at a restaurant we were eating and is this young girl kept taking faking a photo or moving or you know how they sneak a photo in a yeah sneaking a photo sneaking a photo sneaking a photo and the mother asked first hey you might take a photo said you're done eating soon she goes yes and after you're done eating I'll go outside and take the photo no problem so now the kids are taking photos the whole time oh come on so they get up and I'm still we're still ordering food we're just you know like a Benny Honest at the tables on the outside and I and she goes hey do you mind if I take that photo I'm like actually I've never been really rude man but I'm not going to do that for you like why not I said well your kids have been taking photos the whole time when I said I'll take it later on but you've been taking it the whole time we've been having conversations and eating right it's like no they're having I said they're not I said can I see your phone she was no you can't see the phone and she got mad and walked out as I'm about to eat I get smacked in the back of my head which is my mother and she goes you go out there and you fucking better go take that photo and I was like okay and I walked obviously my mother but I was so mad that I didn't want to take it but I had no choice but I would have never taken that photo because again it's like I understand that and we even said hey it's okay we'll take it later but if you're gonna keep invading the privacy why should I be nice now yeah no I I agree and also you you may have to learn how to be a celebrity but people need to learn how to be a fan too there's an element of that there's a respect level too the funny one that I the one that always cracks me up is when there's a bunch of people and you're taking you're trying to get somewhere and you're like taking pictures or something the person goes one more one more just one more I go one more for you that's not everybody else there's everybody else I don't know where you can get the one more just one more just one more or you're like hey have your camera ready okay oh sorry oh so I'm in the oh I can't you know what just move aside one thing and then you get back to me and they still mess it up the one I love is they've been staying there for 10 minutes they go oh it's on video I go that's better that's better they go nah let me get it off video I'm gonna keep it on video just let it go just grab a shot make a movie make a short film well the movie boy band confidential is it four parts two it's two parts oh two parts yeah and how long is each part it's about an hour and 30 minutes for the first part and then the second part's an hour 30 minutes about three hours worth of material oh okay I don't know why I it's weird I saw my guy I said like four one hour things and I go I watched an hour and a half last night yeah Joey and I saw something that said four parts so he called me and said did it change the four parts I'm like I don't think it did so it might have been something you might have saw it cruise that internet and figure it out yeah but it's it's it's I saw the first part and I mean the first 90 minutes it's good and it it's done well like I said some docs don't look that good they look like a little cheap and a little tinny or something like they're a little flat like they'll have those docs you'll see them on I don't know that's like YouTube and it'll go like you're Tom Petty we hardly knew you and it's 41 minutes or something and he's just seeing it already looks a little weak sauce it's almost like to me in my head it's kind of like yeah yeah and they'll do them and they're just there's no there's a little artistry that has to go into docs and by the way docs used to just kind of be tutorials and now they're a genre and then they they have more to them you know and so this this series looks amazing thank you yeah it's been it's been great I mean like I said you know for me and Joe to kind of put this together and come from a artist side from a management side it's actually been very very cool to be able to to see that because again we do play off of each other but then listening to these other people and going okay well that's how that went and that's how this story went and imagine like and then we went into this depth thing and that's why we did this doc is because you know again what's cool about this one is you can go off into other groups like this or other bands and other things and know that these stories exist obviously in there there's a lot of them out there so it's it's interesting to see and hopefully we'll be able to dive into more you once you start making docs it's really like killing prostitutes you can't stop no it's like you get a little taste because when you start walking down that rabbit hole you pass people in the airport you're gonna be a good eye subject for a doc there we should go and talk about that guy because he's working a floor buffer yeah but there's a story there man like you just start running I made my first doc about Paul Newman's car racing and ended up making another one about Willie T. Ribbs who's like the first black driver at Indy because he was in to Paul Newman doc and as I'm making the poll I was interviewing this guy I'm going well this guy's your next doc you know what I mean so you you'll start down this doc highway that you made I know I know it has because it's baked in and it's starting going and then you'll start going shit we don't need to do bands we can do whatever you know and it's interesting and then you're off you're off and running yeah all right joe's town that was awesome and the series again it is on discovery or sorry I should say investigation discovery and HBO max as well take a quick break we'll come back we'll do the news with Rudy right after this quints well it's that time of year that always makes me rethink what I'm wearing I'm trying to keep a few fewer things but better ones you know what I mean quality not quantity and that's why I keep coming back to quints they use 100 European linens and they're insanely soft flow knit active 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looking down on my list of things to talk about I had a an interesting thought well I think it's interesting I kind of think everything means something like like I don't take anything as light you know if you see a neighbor walking down the street you're standing your porch and that neighbor's walking to get his mailbox and then he picks up a piece of garbage of somebody left and puts it in a trash can and walks back you go okay that's a good neighbor that's a good dude that goes kind of universally good yes and if you saw another neighbor like walking down the street and their dog was sniffing and and they kicked the dog in the ribs you'd go okay it's an asshole never now you go what do you know about that person well you know is that guy picked up a piece of garbage and that guy kicked his dog but I think I know a lot about that person and that's that's kind of how I roll like like most people for some reason don't do that like when I saw the clip and we always play it it's worth playing it again and I just got to look for because I didn't talk to but when I saw the clip of Joe Biden like standing up on stage holding a microphone explaining that he had a he was two-time Fulbright scholarship he's the top of his law class and he's the only dual major law student that's ever been sent from Cornell and then he was it was lying about everything and he was like 55 I'm like that guy's a super flawed fucked up narcissistic broken person who by the way everything that guy says is now suspect I've never talked to my son about his business ever you were just standing in front of a group telling me you won the Lombardi trophy and the Outlander trophy and the Buckeyes award and you're you're the top of your law class and you're at the bottom of your law class and you didn't do any of that stuff so now people go it's just a politician's up there bragging maybe his memory didn't are you kidding that is a sociopath sure that's an insane sociopath and I went to law school oh sorry that's good the whole clip is awesome and by by the way it's back when news used to be news it's back when they would on ABC or NBC go after a Democrat this is great the new question stemmed from tape remarks of Biden during an April campaign appearance in New Hampshire I went to law school on a full academic scholarship the only one in my in my class uh to have a full academic scholarship went back to law school and in fact ended up in the top half of my class I was the outstanding student in the political science department at the end of my year I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school 165 credits only 823 credits Biden now concedes he did not graduate in the top half of his law school class that he does not have three degrees from college and that he was not named outstanding political science in college newsweek says Biden actually went to school on a half scholarship ended up near the bottom of his class and won only one degree not three Joe Biden ranked 76th in the class of 85 at the University of Syracuse Law School I mean this guy comes off this whole thing as a flyweight now Biden says newsweek is right his memory had failed him yeah okay that is a full-blown sociopath yep okay and for me I go something's wrong like that now Trump explaining that he when he gets elected he's going to turn everything into gold is different it's it's it's weird it's like there's blowhards that talk about being big man on campus and star of the high school team or something it's different than what Biden does and what Trump does is a blowhardy version of it but it was an interesting thing so here's what I was looking at somebody showed a clip and it was over the weekend it was a UFC fight Palo Costa I guess won his fight and he jumps over the fence he's going to say hi to Trump which is which is what all these guys do all the UFC guys love Trump all the merit-based people love Trump airline pilots and stuff like that it's this it's this faculty school teacher lounge folk that don't like Trump yeah the fucking super lazy fox people with no merits right right things who don't compete or do anything so all the people that compete love Trump so he jumps over and I'll just show you the clip Trump he wants to say hi to Trump and he just wins his fight I don't know what round he won it in but it doesn't matter he just finished a UFC fight you can play it and Trump grabs his hand now his hand is a sweaty bloody piece of mess because he just got done pummeling someone with his right hand and Trump won't let go of his hand which has to be wet yeah with sweat saliva maybe blood Trump's not wearing a glove Trump just grabbed onto his hand now he touches his sweaty arm with his other hand now he starts touching his leg this guy is one big Petri dish sucking up sweat by the way he's not wiping his hands he's not going for a rag he grabs his hand again so stay away okay here's what I'm saying that that's a dude that's a dude that's not mr. Purell that's not what triple mask that's not you know that's been a little bit it's different there's a mindset I don't think you wouldn't find Kamala Harris doing that and by the way I look the guy reaches out you give him the bump in your retreat but you don't hang on to a wet leather glove which again it's got his sweat it's got the other guy's sweat it's got blood teeth whatever whatever's on there and then his whole body's covered with sweat and you're touching him and he wipes his hair with his right hand and then shakes his hand after that one of the best pieces of advice I was ever given I was working construction like 17 years old my grandfather was still alive my grandfather had this guy that he had hired during the summer he was a little bit older than I was probably like in his mid 20s but he said to me how you do one thing is how you do everything and it completely changed my life completely changed how you do one thing is and I think about that every time I write a joke or every time I clean my car or every time I put out I write a script I just go how are you gonna finish this or aren't you because if you can finish cleaning your car you can finish the goddamn script and you can do it professionally yes which is not exactly apples to apples for what I'm talking about but I'm saying a good message for the kids anyway but like you you shake a guy's hand it's all sweaty you're also how you do one thing it's how you do everything you're not grossed out by that guy which means you're probably a guy that can mix it up with other people you can be germy you're okay with it you are okay on a construction site because a construction site is a lot of sweaty dudes that's what a lot of guys all lifting up something at the same time and you're getting other guys shit all over you and it's kind of a eating lunch just sort of sitting on the ground you know sitting on a pile of bricks and eating stuff putting your sandwich down on the side of the brick you know like it's it's a it's a it's a dude move and that is and you know that it doesn't you know I wouldn't know by the way I kind of would know something about that guy's foreign policy which is fuck with this country and you get blown up because he's the same guy doesn't care about all the sweat see what I mean on the guy all right uh let's see you got news yeah what do you got let's jump into it a new bill dubbed the stop nick surely act passed its first hurdle in california's legislature late tuesday the bill's movement comes after 24 year old independent journalist nick surely published a 40 minute video on hospice fraud in the state his video racked up 42 million views on x and has brought public scrutiny to california's funded medicare programs other investigations have found that a single program is causing the state to hemorrhage six billion dollars in fraud annually right so we got to stop it now okay couple things politicians look this is their constituency and they don't really care about fraud they care about their constituency and you experienced it in minnesota that's what's going on but here's the thing about politicians in the past they had to feign some sort of sincerity or some sort of caring you know what I mean which is out the window now and you can find another one of my favorite clips was the uh Nancy Pelosi when they were asking her during the summer love like people are tearing down statues don't you think they should get a permit for that or something and she goes people are just gonna do what they do they do what they do it's like you're not you have to feign okay Nancy Pelosi your constituency are the animals that's burning the city to the ground but you have to pretend like you don't like it even though you do like them and you want their vote but you have to pretend when we put a mic in front of you so this thing that's your constituency it's all immigrants it's Somalis I guess there's actually clip of of nick talking about it which by the way we should probably play um Somalis where you're from Armos where I'm from but that's their protected group these are immigrants these are these are poor by the way they're harder working and contribute more and pay more taxes and use less than we do did you know that about the Somalis I I mean I was definitely aware for sure for 80% of them are on welfare but okay but that's the wrap right that's that's how it works so we used to feign an interest in this and what we would do is you would get up there and you'd go I'm outraged by this fraud that's taxpayer money and I'm here to fight for that and then you'd go back and do nothing now you're releasing bills saying we can't uncover the fraud yeah one of the things that they talk about is these people are not allowed to put out any sort of content which may with the intent to threaten intimidate or incite violence which is basically them just putting out facts and then they just go well you only put that to it's inside violence well let's just let's see we can just get a 10 000 foot view of this you are for secure border and you're against illegal immigration but if somebody says I want to build a wall at the border you say you're going to tear it down and if someone in Texas tries to put barbed wire over the Rio Grande you sue Texas to get it taken down so are you against this thing and you're against fraud except for you're going to attack Elon Musk when he puts together a thing called Doge and burn his dealerships and you're against fraud but you're releasing a bill to essentially attack the guy who uncovered the fraud so you're against these things except for there's no part of your action that ever seems against any of these things and now you're in a really weird position because you are have to go through your political life saying I'm against this and I'm against fraud and I'm for a closed in stout border except for everything I do is to repel both those things and now I'm confused as a voter except for I'm not I know what you want yes and in the wording of this language journalism is pernicious now all right let's hear nick uh let's hear his response to this all right check this out this is a bit crazy california democrats advance stop nick shirley act to criminalize investigative journalism so after I expose widespread fraud all across america and quite frankly states like minnesota and california are just the worst at it letting fraud take place especially inside of immigrant communities for instance the simoleons in minnesota and then the arminians in california and so now they're trying to silence anybody who exposes fraud inside of california for instance if this bill is passed the quality leering center that was in minnesota would be protected from being exposed that is absolutely crazy and the crazy thing about this is the person who's proposing this bill her name is mia bonta her husband is attorney general of california and so let's say you expose fraud this is what could happen to you inside the state of california you can get a misdemeanor a ten thousand dollar fine imprisonment and your content forced to be deleted that is absolutely crazy it is time for people to either stand up or we face mass oppression from those that rule us oh no kings yeah we're gonna go down to no kings march okay rob bonta is the ag of california his wife is putting this ahead first off would you get your bitch on a leash jesus christ if my fucking wife said i got a plan i'm gonna go try to i'd go look sweetheart you know what that's gonna look like for fucking me sure we're gonna look like idiots and by the way you're gonna look like you're aiding in a bedding fraud and my job is to stop fraud think about the optics of it yeah um so that's insane also it kind of proves they don't care anymore like a fuck it i'm just gonna like there used to be an optics thing where someone go you know what that looks like this is also chick think chicks will fucking just say anything and do anything i'm gonna put a bill ahead that says it's it's like nithya ramen talking about catalytic converters like bitch shut up you don't fuck you got to hear what you sound like with this shit you're blaming toyota for people stealing catalytic converters you're nuts that sounds insane this is a feminine trait just the it's it's it's kind of the again when they pull the guy off the airplane who's been battling with the stewardess for for the last hour you'll always hear the women's voice yelling what's going on that's not them saying what's going on that's them saying i can't control my mouth i can't control my brain i just fucking shit just comes flying out you know what i mean this goes back to the phone call earlier it is e i estrogen influx yes and and so california is the most feminine governmental state and thus we get the most crazy fucking ideas of any place in the land and the website they use is chat cnt rob panta this is his wife you should go you should go down a rabbit hole on bonta he's a he's a bad dude yes he is really this shit and also but it's great but but he's a latina he's a man of he's a latina color whatever we this fucking this affirmative action as we used to call it de i stuff i have people have no idea the damage this is called this is caused taking inept fucking dumb boes and putting them in positions of power because they're hispanic or black or lesbian or female or whatever all these people have zero moral compass zero moral compass he's a fucking idiot i believe that bonta is tied to the investigation on the dhuang people in the bay area that the that oakland mayor had to step down she's investigated by the fbi we need more females in positions of color so essentially i i do think that in this case bonta has buried himself into a corner of turning a blind eye to stuff that he knows or he is possibly implicated in and now his wife is trying to they're double timing trying to cover everybody's ass by trying to but hold on former oakland mayor shang tau shang tau yeah but that's a woman and a minority so they're better oh she's better i'm sorry they don't do stuff and died in federal bribery yeah corruption charges yeah i'm telling you it turns out bitches are better at this than dudes were the dhuang family and i'm not entirely correct on all this total 100 accurate but i believe what they were doing was they sold the city of oakland refurbished containers uh storage containers that were supposed to be refurbished to become homeless housing oh what yeah and they were charging like 300 000 for one of the is the city of oakland ordered a million of them there are kickbacks everywhere i know and now the plan is is really and we really is buried in this somewhere you really expect they we're asking you to investigate your friends basically and it's not gonna happen by the way it's all they all they accuse trump of is lawfare and this stuff better come back and bite these people in the asset go down to like the the trump rallies and they basically record people and ask them questions that are loaded to make them look like idiots and then all they do is just post the the highlight reel of people saying stupid stuff and go look at all these yokels over at the trump rally okay well it works the same way then if you don't want to post anything that incites violence or to humiliate well then guess what this is all underneath this bill as well there's never been the whole sorry the whole plan just like they did with covid and big tech is just intimidate people into staying home and being silent essentially because because they because as we found out with j6 if the wrong people are in charge they can fucking ruin your life i mean that's that's kind of the implication yes all right sorry uh wisconsin sheriff sews pakistani american woman who said ice detainer for two days when she was actually at a hotel spot we got video of this good sue that bitch by the way where are all the stories let me let me tell you something there's two things there's two things i've heard my whole life about africanized killer bees coming to california from mexico i've never seen one no one's ever been killed by a killer bee it's never happened it's it's 40 years on all i hear is about ice detaining people and disappearing people and doing all this i never see the actual person shouldn't there be some guy who's released from prison with a big gray beard he goes i was just mowing my lawn and i was mistaken for a mexican and they disappeared all you guys do is talk about stuff but nothing ever comes out the other end yeah it's it's basically their white supremacy is the biggest problem this country faces really because every time i turn on my phone it's just some black kid punching an asian all right so now here we go that is right share oh today the dodge county sheriff said sundass a sunny knock v story was made up and he's demanding action accountability for what he calls lies sundass knock v was not detained by ice at any time she was not transported to broad view detention facility she was not transported across state lines to dodge county by law enforcement anyway she was not in the custody of the dodge county sheriff's office dodge county sheriff dale schmitt in his lawsuit outlining what he calls a hoax allegedly carried out by 28 year old sundass sonny knock v knock v supporter spoke out last month after the evanston native claims she was detained at ohare airport by customs and border protection for 30 hours her family says she was then sent to the ice detention facility in broad view and later transported to a facility in dodge county wisconsin where they said she was released saturday march 7th according to the lawsuit sheriff schmitt says knock v was actually staying at a hotel near ohare and allegedly sent text messages from her room she checked into the hampton in in suites in rosemont illinois for the entire duration of this alleged event travel from the hampton in in suites in in illinois to the holiday in express and beaver dam was done to complete this hoax she scammed a victim out of thousands of dollars in pursuit of this hoax against the federal yeah look by the way when you start making victims into hero status then you're going to get more people wanting to be fucking heroes uh yeah that's the problem with the dumbo's that are standing outside of the detention center with signs because it does incite people to want to pull off more scams like this yeah because they get some attention yeah uh rokhana was getting schooled up by some chick online i saw it he's a he's a dope who's obviously another california guy there's a clifft somewhere but i just the reason i was thinking about that is because of their they have a vert a version of things like what i'm saying is is like they have their artist rendering of the bridge that goes over the freeway and they have their artist rendering of the bullet train and have their artist rendering of the seven street bridge that's a happy drawing that you guys made like when memdami memdani is talking about the supermarkets and stuff he has drawings of like happy people getting free food and farmers giving stuff that's a drawing in your head the rally's going to be an empty store people are going to be fighting over the last trisket and it's going to be a shit show yeah and you're going to want more money but rokhana listen tim first off he's dumb and then secondly he's getting schooled but thirdly his version of the legals like it's oh they always do this thing which drives me insane like it's somebody like someone will go you'll say like if you said to a woman or whomever they go to your roommate like hey let's uh you got all your boxes in the living room let's let's just put those boxes away and then uh let's just kind of get organized here because i'm tripped over a box last night when i came home and then they go he wants me to crawl up the flu in the vent above the oven and scrub it with a toothbrush and i'm like that's not what anyone's no one's ever said that no one ever said that no one ever said i want to go find law-abiding immigrants that are here illegally but are paying taxes and working hard and supporting the family and round them up and disappear them that's nothing's ever said but that's his let's just listen to him try to make sense for 10 minutes as a regular everyday american citizen i feel that i am more likely to be harmed by democratic policies such as open borders because in your state secure borders right so but in your state he's four secure borders yeah in his artist's rendering of the happy border with the flowers and the happy mexicans yes but you don't do anything you fight against the border got secured in 10 minutes after trump showed up white but he's for it he's for it because in your state secure borders okay so but in your state something like 4600 or so illegal migrants that had criminal records were re-release from jail so when we're talking about harming americans when we're talking about children potentially being harmed when we're looking into child trafficking we have to acknowledge that illegal migration is the biggest funnel for child trafficking so when we're worried about epstein with a couple of people and you guys turn a blind eye to let me just say tens of thousands of children being harmed by your policies that's a problem we have been for a secure border but here's what i want the no one in california can say that they're for a secure border well that's a policy i've been pushing for but let me say this instead of having ICE raids in places like minneapolis killing americans like alex prattie and renae good and doing raids by the way undocumented folk they remember the name of any nut job that got shot by law enforcement they that's always at the tip of their tongue the hundreds of people that just get stabbed by legals every year they never know one of their names they can't even pronounce them they never said it they always have those two names yeah always if somebody was killed by law enforcement they fucking know them up and down and backwards wake that guy up and sleep five years from now ask him the names of two guys killed in minnesota he'll tell you the two names ask him anybody who's been killed by an illegal yeah they'll never know the fucking name the good looking blond gal on the subway right no recollection all right here we go killing americans like alex prattie and renae good two people and doing raids on undocumented folks here who may be paying taxes and having a restaurant how about we have the focus on the border to stop so i just this they're having a restaurant and paying paying taxes having a restaurant as as someone find me a clip of trump saying you know what i'm gonna do with these ice officials i'm going after taxpayers who have restaurants yeah all right keep playing it's funny terrorist or to stop the gangs or to stop sex trafficking all right all right there's one million hours of tom home and saying these guys there's terrorists there's sex there's gang members we need to go in your town and clean these fucking people up but he wants to know why they're going after restaurant owners and not gang members so the no one's ever said that ever that's a they're a broke what the answer is like where's he get his information from it's fucking all right so keep going so here who may be paying taxes and having a restaurant how about we have the focus on the border to stop the terrorist or to stop the gangs or to stop sex the border is close if you're worried about sex trafficking why is your focus on the border on rich people the borders close committing significantly less sex trafficking crimes not saying that they're innocent but your your anger towards this seems very skewed my anger towards them is because they are feel like they're above the law that they use and so do these migrants that get right back out of jail when you guys let them out but i'm not they are above the law they are at a tier that gets to walk free whenever they want i believe that if you've committed a violent crime or a terrible crime in this country uh you should pay deportation but you guys don't do it you believe it but you let these people he believes in a lot of stuff he doesn't do or say ever i believe i believe in a clean house i just don't clean it that's right all right sorry keep going there's a good part of it i had a record of having secured the border and and there were a lot of criminals who were deported what i don't agree with is what is is doing putting terror in communities i mean let me ask you this i feel comfortable with isaac i'm not i'm not a criminal let me go i feel very comfortable i'm not terrified by them and i'm from new york new york brooklyn new york okay if there's an undocumented immigrant here right came across without their papers and they opened a restaurant i pause what do you mean without their papers they've crossed they forgot them at home they forgot to make them they just stumbled across with no papers that's like sometimes you go to the airport but you forgot your license and then you got to call your girlfriend to bring it tia so you can go these are these are specific papers that just say they can come to america well they came here and they forgot their papers sorry i forgot my papers but anyway they opened a restaurant yeah oh i have yeah they have a restaurant by the way is there one person that's been deported that is this person he's been wait did the gang bangers own the restaurants is that who were arrested they forgot the papers they had here we go and they've been why why are they allowed to do that why are they taking that place away from someone else right let's say they've been here 10 years and they're paying taxes do you think i should go and try to deport them or do you think that yes so we just disagree there i i disagree and that he's an elected official and a lawmaker who doesn't want to enforce the law and she's some chick from brooklyn who does want to enforce but they disagree that's where we what other laws do we disagree on hey they're both for border security ro cana i disagree on the 55 speed limit how about that i'm an 85 guy yeah that's where we disagree so no law enforcement so he he wants us to shut the border to stop the terrorists from getting in except for he left the fucking border over and for four years never said a thing and now the border is shut so what's he talk about with the border number one and then number two he's invented this person this is the mariland dad you invented this nice guy forgot his paperwork starting a thriving business and paying tons of taxes is taxes and then we're going to shut that guy down is this what you think this is and by the way don't you have any thoughts about how fucking dumb you sound when you speak like people film it and then they put it up and then i make fun of you like yeah going back to what you said earlier is that sometimes people need to hear what they sound like sadly i think they do know what they sound like and they're okay with it they just keep rolling with it the nancy polosi statue thing did we ever find that i don't know why i am so enamored with that yeah literally someone's asking a person that people are tearing down statues and you know she goes she said she's not much of a she she's not nostalgic like she doesn't collect oh yeah stuff she's not a scrapbooker and people are doing what they do you know which is running in the streets and burning shit and by the way she's from california and california if you want to hang up a hummingbird feeder you got to pull a permit sure you want to tear down 7 000 tons of bronze in a park you're on your own just scrap metal tie that tie that hose to the back of the pickup truck and get a get a run and start all right this is great the city of richmond is obviously in sync with your desire to get rid of confederate statues but in boston more in little italy the statue of christopher columbus was removed or taken down and i wonder if you have any anything to share about that well i'm not a big you know i i don't even have my grandmother's ear rings i'm not a big uh let's see what we have in terms of monuments in this the community doesn't want the statue there the statue shouldn't be there exactly shouldn't that be done by a commission or the city council not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor people will do what they do she's fucking christ people you 200 yeah all right by the way people will wander through the rotunda on january 6th bitch that's just people doing what they do you don't have feelings about other people doing things she's not into nostalgia hypocrite jesus christ all right friday phoenix rudy's gonna be there being funny desert ridge improv first show sold out on friday but other shows are going good over there sunday we're doing as well i'm 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