Spooked

Pee Afraid - Classic

27 min
Feb 6, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Dr. Ampton recounts a supernatural encounter during a team retreat in Borneo where he disrespected jungle spirits by urinating into sacred water, leading to a terrifying night of unexplained phenomena including phantom footsteps, disappearing water, and an entity that seemed to follow him.

Insights
  • Cultural respect for spiritual beliefs and local customs carries practical consequences; dismissing warnings as superstition can lead to genuine psychological and potentially paranormal distress
  • The power of community and human connection in managing fear; Dr. Ampton could only break the spell by waking another person, suggesting collective presence provides protection against psychological terror
  • Challenging authority figures or spiritual forces as a defense mechanism may be counterproductive; appearing stronger-willed than you are (like a cat puffing fur) is sometimes necessary but risky
  • Liminal spaces and altered states of consciousness blur the line between dream and reality; the spiritual master's explanation suggests Dr. Ampton entered a conjured dream state he couldn't escape alone
  • Unresolved guilt and boundary violations create vulnerability; Dr. Ampton's transgression against the spirits may have opened him to supernatural attention or psychological manifestation of that guilt
Trends
Growing interest in indigenous spiritual practices and their intersection with modern professional environmentsPsychological exploration of fear responses in isolated, unfamiliar environments and how cultural context shapes perceptionNarrative trend of supernatural consequences tied to disrespect of natural/spiritual boundaries in non-Western settingsWellness retreats in remote locations as settings for transformative (and potentially unsettling) experiencesIntegration of spiritual guidance and religious practice as coping mechanisms for acute psychological distress
Topics
Supernatural encounters in remote jungle settingsCultural spiritual beliefs and taboos in Southeast AsiaPsychological manifestations of guilt and transgressionTeam building and workplace stress managementAltered states of consciousness and dream phenomenaFear response and human survival instinctsRespect for indigenous customs and spiritual practicesThe role of community in managing psychological crisesParanormal activity and spirit encountersBorneo rainforest ecology and village life
People
Dr. Ampton
Primary storyteller; physician/clinic operator in Brunei who experienced supernatural encounter during team retreat i...
Dr. Zim
Dr. Ampton's colleague who warned him not to urinate in the water; later revealed to possibly not be the actual perso...
Quotes
"I'm a descendant of a Kedayan tribe. When Kedayan people enter the forest, they challenge the spirits. They say, I'm not afraid of you. Come on, come here."
Dr. Ampton
"Whatever can make water disappear must be more powerful than you can imagine."
Dr. Ampton
"I think it was the spirit itself was warning me. It must have been the spirit that I pissed off, literally."
Dr. Ampton
"The spirits wanted to send me a warning. I was in a state of it's like a dream state but it's a dream stick that's been conjured by the spirits."
Spiritual master (referenced by Dr. Ampton)
"In the jungle proper jungle deep jungle you respect you respect the unseen."
Dr. Ampton
Full Transcript
Tisket atasket, I trapped it in the basket. It laughed, said it wouldn't answer what I asked it. I nagged it, I nagged it, I nagged it, I nagged it, till it screamed out the answers to everything I asked it. You're listening to Spooked. Stay tuned. Okay, so we're all trying to get healthier, but can feel like shadowboxing. General basic diet plans, general health advice, general supplement stacks. And we know we are not general. No one size fits all. But what if you could measure how your body is aging and know exactly what to focus on next? That's what True Diagnostic does. They test your biological age and key health markers like vitamins, nutrients, and inflammation. Then gives you a clear 90-day plan based on what your body needs without the guesswork. And it's easy. All I did was order online. The kit ships right to your door. Pricked my finger like they said. Sent back the prepaid return package. It takes just two to four weeks to get digital results. My only job now? 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Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates' potential savings will vary, not available in all states or situations. now i don't know about you but for me too often i feel like i'm walking through life exhausted sleep deprived of course i know exactly why because my mind likes to play tricks wake me up at three in the morning with visions of the greatest story ever told bits, pieces, snatches and I know that the simple act of reaching for my phone to write this madness down just a trickle of light in the darkness will mean several hours of staring at the ceiling not sleeping the next day will feel half lived I also know that if I don't write the brilliance down this instant the idea storm will pass forever from my mind like smoke before I would sacrifice sleep to chase these phantoms but now, often, I tell them no no, I just can't right now but please, please, please, please revisit me at a decent hour and you will be welcome I wave them off understanding full well that these ideas they are a fickle bunch moody Vengeful And because I refuse to play by their rules I know I will never hear From them again Spook starts Now Outro Music Life lessons. Life lessons. Dr. Ampton lives in Brunei on the island of Borneo. He and some of his colleagues are going to go on a work retreat. Things have gotten stressful in the office and it's time to get on the same page and bond as a team. Hmph. Sweet. The road becomes from loose gravel to mud, clay. and it's at least three hours to drive off-road. We had this government issue Japanese off-roaders. So we were in a convoy of those and we had fun drifting in the mud. It was like we were young again, set loose upon the world. There was this huge steep hill we had to drive up to and we needed to pick up speed. I said, come on, on the count of three, we're going to shout Sparta, you know, just like in that movie 300. We're together, we're having fun. Whatever fights we've had before, that's forgotten. It was like all was forgiven, you know. We go to a place called Sukang. none of us had ever gone there before and it's interesting because the village is always flooded okay because it's by the river bank so all the houses also not stills it's not just rural but it's deep rural as someone who says oh i live in a tropical country i have no idea until then what tropical rainforest is like. The trees are as tall as buildings. And a lot of butterflies. Beautiful butterflies. The air is so much cooler. If I see an eagle soaring in the air, I just feel as though I've been chosen to have a good day. We were all excited We even brought a karaoke set A full proper karaoke set In Southeast Asia karaoke is a must Doesn matter if I can sing well or not I am singing After about four hours, we got to the dock and took a five-minute boat ride to the clinic. The clinic is basically a wooden house, a large wooden house structure on the river. There are no parts where there's soil or land. There is no dock for the clinic. You basically had to get as close as you can and jump. We were shown where the hall was. This is where we're going to have our team activities, team building activities. The ladies were shown where the dorm was, where the sleeping quarters were. The guys were shown where our sleeping quarters was. Then straight ahead was the toilet. It was quite a distance actually. after we had unpacked we do our orientation program of team building one activity was there's some sort of rope that was put on the floor and we had to get across from one side to the other without getting off the rope and you know these things take quite some time and i needed to pee really bad I went out of the hallway and started walking. And the toilet's out in the end. And it's a long walk. I said, man, that's such a long way. And I wanted to get back into where all the fun was, you know. I didn't want to miss out. I had just had fun with my friends. And I felt on top of the world. I felt uninhibited. and I thought you know since no one's here everyone's busy in the hall I'm just gonna pee into the water so that's what I did as I was peeing into the water I heard on my right side the voice of Dr. Zim my colleague he was literally standing by my side while I was peeing he comes up right close to me and says are you sure you want to do that what if someone is down there meaning not a real person but a spirit of some kind there's something called trouble it's like a set of conduct when you enter the jungle there's certain things you're not meant to say there's certain things you're not meant to do because otherwise it gives an excuse for spirits to come after you. He said that you're not supposed to pee into the water because you might be peeing onto a spirit. So I was a bit naughty. I didn't just pee there. I challenged it because that's what I do. I do my challenge. That's part of my tribal instinct. I'm a descendant of a Kedayan tribe When Kedayan people enter the forest They challenge the spirits They say, I'm not afraid of you Come on, come here Part of their belief system is to keep the spirits in check So they said, well, here's my golden shower And I spat and I did a big loogie I felt gung-ho, I felt tough. I thought, I'm indestructible, so none of your spirits, if you exist here, can do anything about it, because I am who I am. So he left, and I went back into the hall and did my team-building thing. Okay, so we're all trying to get healthier, but can feel like shadowboxing. General basic diet plans, general health advice, general supplement stacks. And we know we are not general. No one size fits all. But what if you could measure how your body is aging and know exactly what to focus on next? That's what True Diagnostic does. They test your biological age and key health markers like vitamins, nutrients, and inflammation. Then gives you a clear 90-day plan based on what your body needs without the guesswork. And it's easy. All I did was order online. The kit ships right to your door. Pricked my finger like they said. Sent back the prepaid return package. It takes just two to four weeks to get digital results. My only job now? Follow the three most important actions and results say I should for 90 days. Then retest to see progress. Easy. That's why True Diagnostic is trusted by top longevity clinics and health professionals, not just consumers at home. And right now, Spook listeners can get 20% off at truediagnostic.com using code SPOOKED at checkout. That's truediagnostic.com and use code SPOOKED for 20% off today. Choose True Age, True Health, or the Combo Kit as a one-time purchase or subscription. Did you know there's an online cannabis company that ships federally legal THC right to your door? And they found a way to combine THC with carefully selected functional ingredients to create gummies, baked goods, flour. I'm talking about Mood.com. They have an incredible line of cannabis gummies, and you can get 20% off your first order at Mood.com with promo code SPOOT. Forget one size fits all supplements. Mood's functional gummies are formulated to dial in the mood you're looking for, like the Sleepy Time Advanced Gummy for mind-soothing calm at night, or Mood's Pure Relief CBD Gummies for gentle relaxation without any psychoactive effects. Plus, beyond gummies, Mood has a selection of flour, pre-rolls, bakery treats, beverages, and everything ships directly and discreetly right to your door. No dispensary lines, no awkward conversations, just better days and nights delivered to your doorstep. Best of all, every Mood product is backed by a 100-day satisfaction guarantee. And as I've mentioned, listeners get 20% off their first order with code SPOOKED. So head to mood.com. Find the functional gummy that matches exactly what you're looking for. And let mood help you discover your perfect mood. And don't forget to use promo code SPOOKED when you check out to save 20% on your first order. Try it today at mood.com. Spooked is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save hundreds. Because Progressive offers discounts for paying in full, for owning a home, and more. Plus, you can count on their great customer service to help you when you need it. So your dollar goes a long way. Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates' potential savings will vary, not available in all states or situations. After we had the orientation program, we decided to sing. You gotta sing American Pie, right? I can still remember how that music used to make me smile. And I knew if I had my chance Then I could make those people dance It's such an easy song to sing And everyone joins in the chorus We were screaming to the top of our voices, you know Bye-bye, Miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee But the levee was dry There was no drinking Alcohol is prohibited in Brunoi but we had a lot of fun. After we finished singing, it was time for bed. Most of them were bunk beds. I grabbed one that was near a window and near the door Usually I sleep well but that night I was woken up around 2am What woke me up was this loud thumping sound underneath me. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. I thought, what is that? It was very eerie. I thought, maybe it's the boat. The boat was tight. the stilted building so wooden stilts and this water everywhere below i thought i'm just gonna ignore it i noticed you know the window was frosted but i could see a black shadow moving to and fro from one end to the other it was passing by the window and then back again and then something was moving past the the gap between the door and the floor and when I looked under I saw tiny feet no no no no that's just your mind playing games you're in the jungle you're tired but I'm sure I saw feet one pair of feet moving fast by the door and passing again just like with the window. I was really scared. I said, hey, anyone awake? Hello? Hello? I have a pretty loud voice and no one woke up. And I thought, what am I going to do? So I thought I'm going to get out of the room and walk towards the hall, the main hall. I thought it just made sense that I should be with people who was awake It's like a long balustrade to get to the hallway When I got out, I felt there was someone behind me And not just someone behind me, but I felt someone was clinging to my back Like piggybacking, like a backpack, but with hands usually I would say I'm going to turn around and look at you and you know if I see something I'm going to punch you but here I thought if I saw it whatever it was I'm going to die on the spot because I was so scared my heart was pounding I was sweating I was trembling I wondered if I was having a stroke I didn't dare turn around I tried saying some holy verses from the Quran but I was just gibberish so I just said okay I'm gonna look down on my feet and just keep walking towards the hall when I got into the hall I'm trying to when someone else is awake. If I'm with someone else, we can confront anything. But if I'm alone, you know, and something happens to me, no one's going to avenge my death. No one's going to be able to tell what actually happened. When I went into the hall, I saw the team leader. He was asleep and I tried to wake him up. He was sleeping, fast asleep. I got so upset and I said you're supposed to be a psychiatrist nurse you're supposed to be able to wake up when there's an emergency and he didn't wake up so I thought gosh what am I going to do I thought there's no way I'm going to sleep here because the door's open and it's huge there's less people I thought I'd be safer in numbers so I made the option of going back towards the bedroom. And the moment I got back out there, you know, I felt the same thing. I felt something was there. At that moment, I saw the water disappear. It vanished. The water vanished, and I saw all the vegetation underneath. I saw the boat on the actual mud, on the actual soil, when it was just supposed to be floating. All the houses are still there on the stilts. The trees are still there, but the water is all gone. It's like something, someone drained it all away instantly. I thought, no, no, there can't be. so what I did is close my eyes and I said holy mantra inside my heart I opened my eyes and the water was still gone it was completely gone whatever can make water disappear must be more powerful than you can imagine I had only one thing to do which was to run back into the bedroom sliding in to the door and just slamming the door, and then I jumped into the bunk bed. I thought, what was that? What the hell was that? I wanted to switch on the lights, but I was so scared that the moment I put my feet ground on the floor, something from underneath my bed would drag me into somehow, into the water down below. So at that time, I had this brand new Japanese flashlight, indestructible. I switched it on, pointed it at the wall, and I just focused on that. After five minutes, I said, all I have to do is wait till dawn. And it was at that moment, the brand new flashlight died. And that's when I went into further panic. I was sweating buckets. I got to do something or I'm going to die here. I thought if something appeared in front of me suddenly, I would just collapse. And the worst thing was that if I died there, people would say, Oh, he just had a heart attack. He was smoking, you know, he had too much fun there. No one would say he died there because spirit killed him or he died of shock. I was so scared. Eventually, I must the courage. I jumped out of the bed and just punched the lights. I started shouting at everyone. Wake up! Wake up, everyone! And everyone was fast asleep. So there was this guy in front of me. He's actually a urologist. He was somewhere in la-la land and dreaming happily, you know, blissful sleep. I thought, no matter what happens, I'm going to wake him up. It could be one of these things that he'll never forgive me for, but this is do or die. So I slapped him hard. His face kind of shook and he woke up. And I had to say to him, look, look, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And I know this sounds crazy, but I think there's something here. Surprisingly, he didn't fight with me. That's the thing that surprised me, how calm he was. he believed me he said okay let's go to the hall and we'll sleep there he actually brought me to the hall read some holy verses for me and waited for me to sleep Did you know there's an online cannabis company that ships federally legal THC right to your door? And they found a way to combine THC with carefully selected functional ingredients to create gummies, baked goods, flour. I'm talking about mood.com. They have an incredible line of cannabis gummies, and you can get 20% off your first order at mood.com with promo code SPOOT. Forget one size fits all supplements. Mood's functional gummies are formulated to dial in the mood you're looking for. Like the Sleepy Time Advanced Gummy for mind-soothing calm at night. Or Mood's Pure Relief CBD Gummies for gentle relaxation without any psychoactive effects. plus beyond gummies Mood has a selection of flour pre-rolls, bakery treats beverages and everything ships directly and discreetly right to your door no dispensary lines no awkward conversations just better days and nights delivered to your doorstep best of all every Mood product is backed by a 100 day satisfaction guarantee and as I mentioned listeners get 20 off their first order with code SPOOKED So head to mood Find the functional gummy that matches exactly what you're looking for and let mood help you discover your perfect mood. And don't forget to use promo code SPOOKED when you check out to save 20% on your first order. Try it today at mood.com. Spooked is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save hundreds. Because Progressive offers discounts for paying in full, for owning a home and more. Plus, you can count on their great customer service to help you when you need it. So your dollar goes a long way. Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary, not available in all states or situations. The next day, I woke up disheveled and everyone saw me. It was so embarrassing. You know, it's not nice for everyone to see you in the middle of the hall to find you sleeping and snoring. For the rest of the day, I did my best to participate in the exercises, the team building activities. But in the back of my mind, I was thinking, oh my God, what had just happened? How could this happen? At the same time, I don't want people to know I peed into the water. and I didn't want people to know that I broke a code of conduct with this experience. But I came up to Dr. Zim. I said, you know, I should have listened to you. And he said, what are you talking about? You know, about your warning not to pee into the water below. He said, what are you talking about? You peed in the water? why would you do that? At the time I just I didn't say anything else because I wasn't sure if he's pulling a long one but at the same time I was thinking I think he's telling me the truth I don't think he was the one who told me not to pee in the water and then I realised that I didn't actually see his face I did not see Dr Zim's face All I just saw was that he was beside me. I never saw his face. I thought that must have been something else that was telling me not to pee into the water. I think it was the spirit itself was warning me. It must have been the spirit that I pissed off, literally. I know now in the jungle proper jungle deep jungle you respect you respect the unseen I shared this story with a friend of mine who's actually a spiritual master he said that the spirits wanted to send me a warning I was in a state of it's like a dream state but it's a dream stick that's been conjured by the spirits. So that's why I couldn't wake anyone up until I decided to slap my urologist friend. That was the only thing that broke the spell. And now when I, you know, before I do a challenge, I say, do I really want to do this? A few months ago, in my clinic upstairs, There's a particular room that's got no windows. And my staff have seen something there. Every time I go to that room, I know there's something there. I get goosebumps. And I basically shouted, don't you dare. Don't you dare show up to me. I'll beat the F out of you. And as they're saying that, I was just thinking, oh man, don't do this. Don't challenge it. But you gotta show that you're stronger-willed than you actually are. Like how a cat puffs up its fur, you know. We're humans. We never learn. Thank you, Dr. Ampton, for sharing your story on Spooked. The original score was by Dirk Swartsoff. It was produced by Ann Ford. Now then A woman dropped her engagement ring in the ocean Not a lot of water Surely lost forever But a man found it for her Returned it to her Another fellow He knew that a letter existed from his beloved departed grandfather. But he had no idea where it might be until a random guy brought it to him. Said he felt like someone was looking for it. Now, while I tend to be an amazing loser of things, some people are finders. Are you a finder? 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There's Davey Kim Chris Hambrick, Leon Morimoto Tao Tecate, Marissa Dodge Zoe Ferrigno, Ann Ford Eric Yanez, Cody Harjo Lola Abreu Doug Stewart, Miles Lassie and Yari Bundy The spook theme song is by Pat My name is from Washington And evil Evil is something we think we want to fight It's something that's always over there But shadow Shadow is something very different Shadow is the secret Shadow is the hidden The unknown But the unknown does not mean the evil So you can fight evil You can slay the dragon You can defeat the angry whore But one One does not fight shadow Shadow is You can dodge You can fence You can peek But the shadow will be It can be your friend it can be your enemy but it will be. It will never change its nature. You can only bend it. And the very best tool I know for coaxing shadow to do your bidding is simple. Never, ever, never, ever, never, ever, ever, ever, never turn out the lights. Spooked is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 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