Joey McIntyre & Carnie Wilson: Chemistry & Christmas Albums
45 min
•Dec 19, 20256 months agoSummary
Joey McIntyre discusses his Roku Christmas movies 'Jingle Bell Love' and 'Jingle Bell Wedding,' his solo tour experiences, and emergency retina surgery. The episode covers holiday entertainment trends, live performance challenges with phone usage, and personal anecdotes about family and career balance.
Insights
- Christmas content franchises are becoming viable multi-film properties for streaming platforms, with sequels greenlit based on first-season performance
- Live performers are increasingly implementing phone-free experiences as a differentiator, with audiences responding positively despite initial resistance
- Streaming platforms like Roku are successfully competing with traditional cable networks by offering free ad-supported content with theatrical production values
- Celebrity Christmas albums and holiday specials remain evergreen content with sustained audience demand across decades
- Health emergencies during touring create operational challenges that require rapid decision-making and family support systems
Trends
Streaming platforms investing in theatrical-quality holiday movie franchises with multi-film commitmentsPhone-free live entertainment experiences gaining traction as premium differentiator in concert/theater marketChristmas content as year-round revenue stream with consistent audience demand regardless of seasonCelebrity cross-platform expansion (music, acting, touring) as standard career diversification strategyAudience willingness to pay premium pricing for curated holiday experiences and VIP seating optionsRetina/eye health issues emerging as occupational hazard for touring performersFan engagement through meet-and-greets and direct venue interactions despite privacy concernsChristmas album catalogs maintaining commercial viability across 14+ year gaps between releases
Topics
Streaming Holiday Content StrategyPhone-Free Concert ExperiencesChristmas Movie FranchisesLive Performance Audience ManagementCelebrity Multi-Platform CareersPremium Venue Pricing ModelsOccupational Health in EntertainmentFan Engagement and Privacy BalanceChristmas Album ProductionTheater vs. Streaming DistributionTouring Logistics and Family BalanceEmergency Medical Response During ToursRetina Surgery and Eye HealthVIP Experience DesignSeasonal Content Scheduling
Companies
Roku
Streaming platform distributing Joey McIntyre's 'Jingle Bell Love' and 'Jingle Bell Wedding' movies with free ad-supp...
Samsung
Electronics sponsor offering Galaxy S26 Ultra phones and Tab S10 Lite tablets with promotional pricing
EE
UK mobile network provider offering Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra with monthly savings and tablet bundle
Villamillers
New Zealand wine brand promoting Sauvignon Blanc as holiday entertaining beverage
Flosam
Supplement brand for frequent urination management mentioned by guest as personal health solution
SoFi Stadium
Venue referenced for holiday entertainment events and performances in Los Angeles area
Cinevita
New in-the-round venue in Los Angeles hosting holiday entertainment and Christmas shows
Broken Top Candle Co.
Candle brand owned by Carnie Wilson offering holiday scents with satirical product reviews discussed
Royal Birmingham Conservatoire
UK music and acting education institution advertising open day for prospective students
People
Joey McIntyre
Guest discussing Christmas movies, solo tour, emergency eye surgery, and holiday entertainment projects
Jeff Lewis
Podcast host conducting interview and discussing personal anecdotes about family and entertainment
Carnie Wilson
Co-host and candle brand owner participating in discussion and receiving satirical product reviews
Michelle Morgan
Co-star in 'Jingle Bell Love' and 'Jingle Bell Wedding' Christmas movies with Joey McIntyre
Monroe
Jeff Lewis's daughter whose Christmas wish list and Santa letter were discussed on air
Tom Arnold
Referenced as person Joey discussed frequent urination supplement Flosam with
Cynthia
Fan who sent Christmas card mentioning sea turtle work and was inspired by weight loss discussion
Jenny Meyer
Caller asking Joey about new Christmas album and requesting original music releases
Quotes
"It's Christmas magic. Let's make it back."
Joey McIntyre•Early episode discussion about Tinsel Color show duration
"I'm not the jealous like wife but I do say like all right so what's going on did the girl come and knock on your door"
Carnie Wilson•Discussion about spouse touring and trust in relationships
"It felt like there was a spider like swimming in front of my eye. It was that bad."
Joey McIntyre•Describing retina emergency symptoms
"We build these shows and we build these experiences and now it's captured like this. I know you want to sound in the fricking crap no matter how you're performing."
Joey McIntyre•Discussing frustration with audience phone usage at concerts
"Your unrelatable entitled and elitist humor. I love it."
Fan (via Christmas card)•Reading fan mail segment
Full Transcript
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And I thought to myself, it's going to be 30 minutes. We're in that place in our lives. I did an interview yesterday and I had to run to the back, and I was like, can I hold it? No. No. So what happens? The pee just starts coming out? No, but it just starts to hurt. Yeah. What if you have to pee during your Christmas show? It's uncomfortable. What's that? Can you take a break during your show? Yeah, how does that work? There's enough breaks. Well, I've been in shows where you don't get off stage for an hour and a half. I mean, not like in theater stuff that you can't leave or you get a cough or something, and you're tearing because you're not coughing, that kind of thing. So there is a supplement, however, that I just started taking. It's called Flosam. And they sent it to me and it's for people for frequent urination. I was talking to Tom Arnold about this because I was getting up twice a night to go to the bathroom. Yeah. And I started taking it and I think it's working because I still have to go once, but I've been able to hold it. But do you drink water before bed? Because I think that's a factor. Not a ton of water, but yes, I'll take a couple swigs. Yeah, I do too. And then also like I wake up in the middle of the night and sip water like all night long, but subconsciously. I don't know. Do you also? Yeah, I think it's dehydration. What about this holiday show that you're doing? What about this? Well, you go an hour and 15 minutes before the intermission, right? You have very... I've been pitching for the chumps, right? I'm going to fill in the chumps right away that I'm pitching this Christmas show. And of course, mainly it's about my Christmas movie out this year, but I'm doing this amazing Christmas show in this brand new venue in LA, and it's called Tinsel Color. And you're very concerned about how long it is. You want to get in and get out. Ba humbug! That's his whole thing, because if it's too long, he won't go. No, it's incredible. Or he'll leave early. With the intermission, it's two hours and it flies by. And I'm telling you, let's make it back. It's Christmas magic. Let's make it back. What's it called again? Tinsel Color? Tinsel Color. Dot com. We were talking about Monroe said to me today, she's like, Daddy, what are we doing on Sunday? And I don't know. Fuck, I don't know. And I was thinking about that. And Joey was telling me that I should take her to this holiday thing. It's at the SoFi where you and I went. CB 52s. CB 52s. I love that venue. You must know, for the record, they do Tarantino, the show Tarantino. Have you ever seen that? No, but you're actually doing it there. That's a big venue. No, no, no, no. Oh. It's a new venue called Cinevita. And these are real, look at this venue. Wow, look at you. It's in the round. Wow. There's other pictures that, yeah. That's a production right there. Yeah. I just saw a guy without a shirt. You threw that in for the gaze. You're in. I'm coming Sunday. That's Brian Justin Crumb and those who know, no. So apparently they have like 22 Christmas songs and their classics and then the new ones, which Monroe would love. But then it's funny because Joey headlines the whole thing. And I was like, oh, are there other celebrity musicians like yourself? He's like, well, you know, you know, they're famous like in Broadway. I'm like, oh, I get it. You don't want anyone to upstage you. So you're the most famous guy in the tent. Yeah. Of course he is. Yeah. We have matching watches, not to, they're very similar. Wait, what the fuck? That's really weird. Yeah. What? We have the girl in the version. Well, they're Rolexes. So they're, you know, they're not. We have the exact same watch. They're not that rare. Did you put the diamonds around it? No. Oh, I did. Sorry. Anyways, thank you for the, thank you for the plug, Jeff. And you have to come. How much are tickets? You got to love it. Tensil color. They're actually very reasonably priced. Really? How much are they? Prices, listen, don't make me rant and rave about the ridiculous prices for live anything. It pisses me off. But what are you going to do? So you don't know the prices? No, no, no, there's, you can get in for like, I know, but I don't, I just, I don't want to just get in. I want a good seat. A good seat is like, you know, the top top. Yeah. About that. Yeah. Maybe a little bit more, but like, for Ford, you could get a table for 250 up to four guests. A table for two. Yes. So you Monroe, your attitude is a big, then there's big VIP, not VIP, but bigger booths that are like a little bit more. It's a wonderful, wonderful event. I could bring both nannies. Yes. Perfect. That is great. Get the booth. We like a booth, Jeff. It's not too late. Oh, you could sing. Hey, Santa. Oh God. Have you heard her Christmas song? It's been around for like 15 years. Hey, Santa. She and her sister. It's pretty sticky actually. You might like it. Do we have it? Is it too early to say that I haven't seen you since your dad passed and I want to say send you love. And I want to say, I'm sorry, but okay, I know, I know. The magic of Christmas. There's enough time. I do want to say it is, it's amazing. It's amazing the life you have lived and how you are. You are who you are. You know what I mean? And for good reason. I mean, I don't know your family that well, but like it's, you know, it's really such a credit to your spirit and like who you are and what you've done. Thank you. And I really didn't, I know it's the Beach Boys and I know you, but there was like a real connection to put it together. Right. I'm sorry. The dogs died a week ago. You wanna talk about that too? No. The jumps. The jumps wanna hear this by the way. They're gonna say, you know, when you said that on Jeff, I really, I started to tear up in the car. So thank you. I appreciate it. You know what I mean. I do. So. Anyway. He leaves a big legacy. His music will be here forever. And I'm so proud to have been his daughter. Yeah. It's really sad. thing is that not a day goes by now without somebody on the street. I'm sorry about your father. We love his music and that's what we're left with is this beautiful music that nobody will ever be without. I can't imagine anyone holding that space better than you. Oh god that's so sweet. Throughout the years. Thank you so much. Is that okay Jeff? Can we have a heart? Christmas. Yay! No you gotta get to the chorus. You gotta go to the chorus. Oh my god. No he should hear the lyrics. The stupid lyrics. How about that? Fuck you. How about the dirty version? That's what we should play. This one. You know I am. He's never heard it. He's never heard it. Yeah I still have it. 30 years. It's been on the radio for 30 years. You know I have about five songs to it. Five albums listen to still. Shade. You know I need a baker. That's where I live. You know what? Hey Santa would be great at tinsel color. Okay. You'll have to talk to the producers. People love it. They do. They request it in July. Okay. Oh really? When we're on stage they're like hey Santa! It's like literally it's the middle of summer. It's cute. It's nice. It's good to know. It's like a little um what are they called evergreen or whatever? Evergreen yeah. It's an evergreen. Well that's the thing about Christmas. Yeah it's a double banger. Okay so Joey McIntyre is here. He is a Christmas king now. I don't know if you know this. So he did a show. He did a show called Jingle Bell Love. Oh it's a movie on Roku last year and it was so good that we made the sequel. They made the sequel. That's good. Jingle Bell. So it was cheap to make. Wedding. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't produce it but I was very involved in making sure that I thought it was pretty good. I actually think the um it looks good. The show looks good. Isn't it? I agree. The way that it was shot it looks it's actually a pretty show. Namaste. So that was in where did you shoot that? Canada. Montreal. Okay. Which is lovely because the crew is speaking French. So it's very romantic. You're doing this Christmas movie and everyone's I don't speak French or else I try to speak French right now. Now the um the theme or the plot line was very very I think a very different from what we've seen in the past with all Mark and Lifetime. So basically a woman who has a she had a singing career correct. She was a musician. Does she say anything nice to anybody? Never. She moves back to her small town to help her her ailing mother and then um I think the mother had a cafe correct. Kiss my ass Jeff. I'm embarrassed to say that I saw this and um you watched that. I did watch that. I'm actually shocked that you did. I did watch it. With your daughter? No. Just me. But this was the first one. So this is last year. Okay. I like these Christmas movies. Yeah. So again it was uh it was. He actually is saying something nice. He just can't say it nicely. Right. Okay. So now she has to save her mom's cafe right. If I remember correctly. The first one. Yes. The first one. Yes. And then you have to raise like $25,000. At the last minute. At the last minute. However I was the one who came to town and I was tasked to buy it and take it from her and change it into a condo or something like that. Then I realized I'd fall in love with her at the same time. So. Were you going to do mixed use like commercial on the first floor and then residential above? Was that the plan? See I thought we could do it all together but turns out it was all enough and at all. So then you fell in love with her and then you decided to help her. Yeah. And then did you organize the concert? And I have a daughter as well. Yes I remember. Yeah. Your daughter because your wife died. Yes. Oh my god I remember this now. I was a grieving father. It's dramatic. Who's pushing that button? Okay. All right. I forgive you. So Jingle Bell Love. Now ultimately of course. Yes. They raise the money. They save the cafe. Don't give it away. Yeah don't give it away. Oh sorry. Well that's the first one. That's the first one. Yeah. And you kind of want to watch the first one before the second one. You don't have to. Sure. Are you left hanging or is it just like. You can follow the second one. Yeah. Yeah. Is there like a cliff? You pick it up. Is there a cliffhanger? That's the first one. And then the second one. No. No. No. We tie it up in a bow. Both times. Hope to see you guys in here again soon. I'm sure you will. Grace loves her hot chocolate. It's a good feel. Doesn't it look good though? It does. It's nice. You know kudos to the yes to the cinematographers. Yes. And they really it is nice and warm and looks better than a lot of them stuff. Are you shooting this in the heat of summer? Macy's Cafe. It is. Macy's. Yeah. Macy's. They save. Yeah. I'm always impressed when a singer is an actor. I'm impressed. No. Did you raise the money from. Did you put on some sort of Christmas concert. At the end of. Yeah. But you raised 25,000 bucks in that concert huh. And only like 14 people showed up. But you raised the 25 grand. They're generous. You know what. That's what I was saying in the writer's room Jeff. I said this is a little bit much. But it's Christmas magic. You know what I mean. Those were expensive tickets. Yeah. There were 2000 each. Yeah. But you can only afford so many extras. You know what I mean. So. Was it cold up there. Or were you having. No. It was lovely. It was in May. We're going to wear that ski jacket when it was hot out. It wasn't too bad. Okay. It was lovely. Lovely little town called. I'm going to can't say it with the accent. But Terabon Terabon. Yeah. So even we basically have seen this movie about. Don't you dare. Sorry. 17,000 times. Never. But you know with Joey McIntyre it felt it felt different. There's a twist. It felt different with Joey McIntyre. That is like coming from Jeff. That's like eight stars right there. That's like. I mean it obviously grabbed me because I watched it. Thank you. There is something about it that you liked. Yeah. Yeah. So it did well. Yes. And then they decided to do a sequel. Yes. And that's Jingle Bell wedding. Yeah. But. Doesn't mean they get get married guys. Let's hang in there. There's suspense. Something it might all fall apart. Yeah. Well. Twisty poo. I did a little deep dive because I watched Jingle Bell love. So I'm going to kind of feel invested now. Yeah. So Jingle Bell wedding. Yeah. Which you are so supportive of her music career. I have to say Joey. Thank you. It's very modern modern. Yeah. Partner. So they're together. They're planning their wedding. Yeah. Your daughter really likes her. She does. Yeah. She really does. Like they have a really nice connection. You are like weirdly. This is like the soap opera. I really have to say. I like this movie. I love this is fiction. Right. This is not real life. I love it. But now that I know he was in the writer's room. So he's you know he was writing this as it goes. Oh yeah. No. Very involved. No. I very much appreciated. You were very supportive even though she's working late nights with that hot black guy. Yeah. I was a little I look hung. I needed some. What. He said he looked hung hung. Yes. Not that you're not because he's tall and black Jeff. Christ. That doesn't you know guarantee being hung. You know that's like boy. You have a pretty good job though. The odds are better for you. Yeah. Yeah. I needed the info on that guy. Yes. I had to you know do some you know some background checks investigating. Yeah. So he realizes Joey first he's like real supportive of this. Yeah. But then now they're going to go out and tour right together. I see his heart growing in front of me. You know what I mean. He set me up. You know now we're worried that the wedding is not going to happen. You know more than you know more than I know I know. Oh my God. I was in the writer's room. You are so funny. I love this. It never happens. No it doesn't. And we should say people also want to watch they can watch other Roku channel. Roku channel. Yes. Yes. Can I get to that. Can I go to Apple for that. Did I go to Apple. How did I get it. Do you have a you might have a Roku TV. Find it. A lot of us have a Roku TV or you have a Roku stick or if you don't you can just go to Roku channel dot com and watch it for free. You don't even have to sign the cast. I found it. Yeah. So anyway so the wedding now that you know she wants to go on concert with that hot black guy which means she's going to go on tour with you know what you know what that means. He's a manager not a performer but yeah. Oh okay. Oh he's her manager. Yeah. Yeah. They're fucking they're for sure. Oh they're not or they're thinking about it. You're thinking about it. And you're worried. And I think they had at least one night. I know that you probably I don't know maybe we don't talk about that but I think they had at least a one night stand. Maybe they have an arrangement you know like when she's on tour. He realized his name is Romain. The actress name. So Joey realized. No he's not. He might be in real life. Oh. Oh he's a good dude. What's going to happen to Maisie's if she goes on if she goes on the concert tour. Yeah I got it. Are you going to run it. I got to juggle my music shop and Maisie's now and I was I'm planning a wedding. I know I noticed that you had to plan the wedding. Oh and there's a Christmas concert that's back on as well. So yeah. How you going to do all this. I know I know somehow pull it together. Now did you have any sort of chemistry with your co-star. What's her name again Michelle. Michelle Morgan. Yeah Michelle Morgan. She's very very lovely. Yes. There was some chemistry wasn't there. Sure. I hope you hope so as an actor you want to have. You know it doesn't always have it's it's not the what do you say it's not the rule for sure. A lot of times you have to like work but there's nothing like a little sensibility with whoever you're working with and yes she's she's she's a pro and lovely and we got along well. When you kissed her did you open your mouth and we did not open. I was going to ask about the kiss. No kissing. No no open mouth kisses. No. Now then okay but then you're obviously hugging but you are you very like conscious not to touch her ass. Oh my god. What is wrong with you. Yes I'm conscious to not touch her ass. You don't have that question when you're when he's in a scene and he's kissing. I'm not thinking about her ass I'm thinking about like the kissing and like if it was like a patch of hot kiss and was she good kisser and all that shit but he's married. But it's not a hot kiss if you're not opening your mouth. No I know. I know but then you go to the ass. She has three kids. Yeah she's got like a little daughter is adorable. She's got like a three. She has three kids. In real life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Good body. She's just really pushing the limits. Great shape for sure. Okay. And she's lovely. All right. So I actually think that this next one is going to be successful. So then what do we do. Jingle Bell wedding baby. Oh. But well I think we're I mean she does have a little toddler but I don't know. The way that you guys fucking that trailer. Yeah. It'll be Jingle Bell Walker but till you're totally great. It totally makes sense. Right. Mean back to me. No. No. I mean. How long are you gone from your wife when you're when you're shooting this film. He's writing his own Christmas movie. He's really just fantasizing about his own Christmas movie. How long are you gone. Too often. My wife is a freaking superhero and I have three kids and. Wow. Yeah. And I often go it's not worth it. Like honey. I it's really not worth it. She's like shut up. Just go do it. And. And I'm lucky to be able to do what I do and still have an amazing family. Yeah. So when you were shooting in Montreal it was quick though. It wasn't a lot. It was like yeah. How long were you there. Like total maybe three weeks. That's not a long time. That's not that long of a time. That's probably kind of enough time where you're kind of happy to be away. Right. That's why I don't need to ask you next question. No I'm not asking anything. OK fine. No but that's I mean we all know what he's right. Infring of course. I think I think that's a decision. You know what I mean. Like I'm I'm not even I don't even think. Yeah. Of that. You know what I mean. Which is a lovely place to be. And that means you're happy at home. I'm sure there's there's happily married people but they're both like thinking of that. I mean I'm still a guy and I'm still you know things are you know chemicals are up and floating but yeah no it's it's not a if you're if you're saying was it hard to be away for three weeks. Wasn't you know. No no other than my kid's a coordinator. I feel like you might want this we didn't because we were never we were never like in bed you know so it was just the kisses you wanted to be though. Did you did you suggest to the writers that there's a once I had that once I did a lifetime series like a couple of years ago and that was hot and heavy. Did you have no clothes on because you have a good body. So if I was if I was a casting director over the years. No because I saw that picture of you in a speedo washing the car. Yeah that was like 10 years ago. Oh it looked newer. OK. I mean so I thought that yeah I thought that if I was a casting director or director I would definitely want to utilize that right. Right. Right. I want to take a hot seat in bed. Of course. Yeah shower. I did. Am I. No no no I you're too too much of a good host. Yeah. I mean that's you know I could lie and have people think that's you know yesterday but the speedo that wasn't great. I could use some we're looking at that was all you and that's me though. That was caught. Yeah that's no no yeah yeah. Yeah it's huge hands. Wow. Yeah. We can do the master over the years. Yeah. I think so maybe he's read by you. No spread by the other new kids actually maybe his love interest in Jingle Bell wedding is not. She does not have a wandering eye after this speedo. Yeah yeah that was from my that was obviously a comical moment in a show that I did called Return of the Mack. You know what Rob goes on the road and he does these cruises every year and he's gone for a couple weeks on the cruise and I I'm not the I used to be very jealous and I used to worry because he's a good looking guy. So I think like there's got to be some girl that just wants to like you know knock on the door and suck his dick or something at night. So I go so I so I ask him so what happens is I say to him I'm not the jealous just I'm not the jealous like wife but I do say like all right so what's going on did the girl come and knock on your door like it to me I'm whatever and he starts laughing he gets this like silly guilty laugh but I know he would never cheat on me so trust is so important. Yeah I think anybody like for me I don't really think of getting jealous but in give me 45 seconds and I could create a story about my wife you'd never believe it and she's blah blah blah you know what I mean and you could you could just spiral down and anybody can do that. Of course and it can go both ways you know but. Does it also occur to you like if I if you'd screwed around on Barrett she's gonna take you for everything you have and she's gonna take that beautiful house in Hancock Park I mean is that is that something that really kind of you think about. No as if like that's the no no no no I don't I don't yeah. It won't pencil out for you. It won't pencil out. The numbers aren't good. You've been married you've been married a long time. 22 years yeah. Wow yeah yeah I'm 25 yeah I get it. Now your kids is it 18 16 18 almost 16 on the 13th of this month and then 14 two boys and a girl. So I was gonna show you this because I'm sure you remember this was the letter from my daughter to Santa. I can't take it. This is the envelope it says Santa North Pole. North Pole. Some Christmas trees and some wreaths and then it says from Monroe on the back what are those things on the back ornaments ornaments yeah okay now what I realize is we still have to work on our spelling Joey we're a little behind. But can we say is the paper cut it's like tell me you have a ruy. She cut it. It's very creative. She doesn't she clearly doesn't listen to this show is there is a rule about this. She doesn't have a subscription to the app. So she cut she cuts the note like a Christmas tree which is very creative. That's cute. And then it says oh she says she okay she has to clarify that this is at Jeff's house. Oh she wrote she's supposed to say daddy Jeff not Jeff but she does sometimes call me Jeff and I have to correct her. Yeah but it's Jeff's house so just make sure you know you send these to the right house. Yes right. Touch screens but screens are spelled R E A she spells like Joey. Yeah E A N S screens and cleans that makes sense. Skull pandas but Skull is S K A L L Skull. Skull. She wants a puppy Joey. Oh that's not gonna happen. Okay so she wants a puppy. Uh La boo boo's. Of course. Which we already have enough of those. Yes. My goodness gracious. Makeup. Art supplies supplies is way off. Oh yeah good lord. Yeah. It should have a Z in it. Supplies. Supplies. Supplies. S I P L I Z E. There's somewhere in Hollywood I think on well maybe like in Pico or whatever it said I drove by yesterday hair supplies. There you go. Yeah. Art supplies. Okay. Slime. Slime. That's of course. Slime. And this is very general. Stuff for New York. Okay. What does that mean? Oh. Stuff for New York. You have a place in New York? No but we're going there for Christmas. And then I can't even read the last word. Don't even know what the last one is. Kalinden calendar. Don't even know what that means. Calendar. Yeah calendar. Calendar. How does she spell it? C A L I N D. We got some work to do. She wants a calendar. I thought we were doing so well with spelling but I guess not. But this is why I'm laughing. It's just a list. There's no dear Santa. It's just like here's what I want. Because look at dad. Dad shows her how to talk to people. You're right. We're right. You're demanding. You don't ask for it. Gosh. It's not a request. It's not a request. It's a demand. Yes. No. It's a very humble list compared to what she could ask for. Right. Touch the screen. Good point. Good point. Now she's getting those. But the puppy. That's a tough one. She's going to keep us. No no no no no. Art supplies, makeup, slime, fine. Great. You'll get it. Skull panda is fine. I don't know what that means. Touch screens. Like what does that mean? I mean it. iPad. It's like an iPad. That's a pretty house one. I'm so much into putting an iPhone on there. Touch screens. Maybe she wants touch screens everywhere in the new house. Maybe that's what it wants. Oh. That means we write this with her. Yeah. You're right. It's very convenient. All those touch screens. Did she happen to share with you what's on the letter at the other house? Do you know? That's what I'm interested in. Oh well. Remember. She has two different lists. I don't know. I think like she knows that Santa comes to my house. Wow. So I don't know if I don't know what the deal is over there. She's trying to get a puppy at both houses maybe. Because her nanny said to me this morning she said yeah she's on this on the fence about the Santa thing. And I go what the fuck. I'm like no I want to get another like you're out of this. Yeah. How long did your kids believe in Santa? They still believe in Santa. We're big believers in the house. Straight up. Yep. What? I mean Elf on the shelf comes. The whole thing. We believe. Wow. That's and your old your eldest is almost 20 or 18. You can call it weird. You can call it whatever. I don't believe you. We believe. Wow. That's intense. I mean mine were like nine or they were young. How old was my role? She's nine. She's nine. You know. I'm worried that it's over. They believe. They believe slash play along. You know what I mean. They want to continue it. But I'm not mad at that. A little you know on the stain needs to just you know believe in something that's you know fun and safe and I think you know yeah. It's nice. She's a little kinder to Santa. That she should have said like hey how are you. Yo Santa. Yo Santa. Hey Santa. Stuff for New York too. These are the things that I would love. It gave me some stuff for New York while you're at it. Do you get Christmas cards from fans? From fans. I think I've you know they're really like family by now and they know that they don't want to be the one that sends something to my house because that says I know where you live. So I don't have a lot. And by the way like most of us right you can find out everything's out there. Right. Everything is out there. So everything. Scary. Everything. Last night we were at this event. We had a meet and greet. Yeah. These two ladies said oh we went by your house today. Oh that's where. And I go. I go which but you know you weren't there. And I go which house. The new one. She's like yeah the new one. You weren't there. And I go I go oh well I was there like 1145. We just missed you. We were there in 1215. Oh Jesus Christ. I mean they're harmless but still creepy. Yeah. But I'm starting to get Christmas cards. Yeah. Which I appreciate. I get them. Except then I get. We on camera because I keep picking my notes. No. You're not. I'm going to keep picking. I'm going to. Oh you're on. He's on camera. I don't believe you. And I'm marking every time he picks. I believe in Santa but I don't believe in Jeff. But this was a nice card. You're unrelatable entitled and elitist humor. I love it. Is exactly what I needed. Your recent journey to weight loss through fat shaming. Wait where's the background Christmas music. He's fading it in right now. Wait a minute. I got a card. I got a card from the same lady I'm trying to find right now. You did. The marine biologist whatever. She spent time with sea turtles. I'll do it myself. Keep reading. I work as a wildlife biologist. Yes. Yes you're right. And she spends time on the beach with the sea turtles. I can see her in a like a scuba. Do you have the same card. I got the same card. She didn't mention the sea turtles in my card. She wrote this underwater. She gave me. She's so sweet. She came at the meet and greet last night and she gave me the card and I gave her a big hug. She was a doll. What's her name again. She signed it. Cynthia Cynthia Cynthia the deep sea diver. Nice chump. Keep up the abrasive humor and sarcastic comments. But I do like this that she's really inspired by the weight loss through my fat shaming. And so she's she's it's inspired her to lose 15 pounds. Wow. See bullying and fat shaming works. You're horrible. Put the spotlight on your future at Royal Birmingham Conservatoire the UK's number one for student satisfaction in the National Student Survey 2025. 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The wick kept flaring up unpredictably and it honestly felt like she didn't trim it right. You know what I love an unpredictable candle. Who needs a normal come you know you have to trim the wick. And it honestly felt like a fire waiting to happen. What a bitch. The rumors are that one of her candles started the palisades fire. Oh my god he's such a liar. You officially know no bounds here. Absolutely. Within minutes of lighting it the jars rim turned pitch black and the soot started drifting through the room. That's called the biggest crock. It's called a smoked candle. It's a smoked candle. It's a smoked vibe. I don't believe that. Did you did you actually write that review so that you could read this on the air. The smell was so weird that it literally settled to my poultry and won't come out even after cleaning. I'm uneasy about what chemicals I was breathing in. No chemicals all biodegradable all all natural eco friendly. Way to go. You didn't trim the wick. Honestly. You have to. Kid wrote that shit. That is so rude. Such a fucking asshole. It was pretty funny though. Appreciate the love. Maybe laugh. They are beautiful. You gotta kind of believe it though. You know well done by the way but like that people are crazy so it's very believable. But literally in the upholstery and then you had to clean it couldn't get it out. Come on. You should have done product placement on jingle bell wedding. Oh the next one. The next one. Oh it's a great wedding gift. Island Tabiscus hello. Yes. It's perfect. It's like a honeymoon in a candle. Would you suggest jingle bell honeymoon. Thank you. That's great. It's not. You want Carney to do the candles. Yes. For you. Yes. Stop. Just Christ almighty. No be nice on the on the fireplace. Oh my gosh. Love lights by Carney Wilson. Yes. Thank you. Cranberry dream. I had a few people come up to me last night and say we love your candles. We got your candles. Few. I like the cranberry dream. Yeah. Cranberry dreams are a good good good son for the holidays. Yeah. She's a good actress this one. I am not. Maybe in the Christmas movie. Yeah. Maybe jingle bell baby. Well honey baby. Carney can be involved. You've done some acting. I could play the fat nanny or something. She's maybe you're the the carrier of the baby. There we go. Yeah. Oh the. I can those kind of movies though. Carney should play herself or like a therapist like there you go. That's good. Therapist. Like you kind of give her because you know she's also a musician. Right. Right. And a songwriter. So I feel like maybe you could give her mentor. Yes. I love that. You know what. That'd be good. That'd be good. I'll take it. I'll take it off. I think it's a big draw for you guys. Despite some of your delivery and your tone. You really do have a heart and you do care. It's it's I'm confused. You know what I mean. Yes. I'm confused. It's unsettling. It's deeply unsettling. But that's that's why we love him. Now you had posted something. It was actually an apology Joey that you had done. Was this the. Oh my God. The new kids. Was this your residency in Vegas. Something happened where you you had apologized to a couple of fans and said that you had you reprimanded a couple of folks. This is what you said. And I'd like to know what happened. I didn't say that. Maybe someone said that. A fan did. Right. I did. Did you were you in it. No. Not that I'm saying that didn't happen. But Salt Lake. Salt Lake City. No. Oh did I did I. Where did I. This is what he does. He's invested. No no no that's fine because it's a good topic. But what what was it Salt Lake. Yeah it was your show at Salt Lake City and you said that you had to reprimand a couple people. Oh oh oh no. See see there's two different things. So this is my solo solo tour. And when I'm up there and do my thing as you might imagine my personality comes out which is fun and also you know I sing my took us off and I go forward and there's moments or whatever and what were they doing. This one. This one person. I think it was like five five songs into the set. You know what I mean. And I think it was this song of my new album. It's called One Shot. And so I'm like rocking out. You're like total rock star. And up comes the stuffed animal version of like doll of me. Right. And so in the middle of the song I said put that fucking thing away. Oh OK. So it was a joke. It was a joke. It's like you know what it is. It's total the chump vibe. You know what I mean. Like that's it's almost a looking the die hards from my die hards are almost looking for that kind of back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. But why did you apologize then. Why do you need to apologize. It was a joke. No it was it was it wasn't like a whole. Oh my god. It was it was it was ingest. There was some light. Yeah. It didn't might not have read that way on the it was like reactionary and it was just it was more like honestly which I don't normally do is sort of like this is what happened by the way. And that's going to there was a little bit of a click bait probably in that me sharing that. However what does annoy you when you're performing like what really gets to you people on their phones like what it's hate that I stop and say what are you doing. The problem is it's such a part of our business right the freaking phone and sounds dramatic but it breaks my heart. You know what I mean because we build these shows and we build these experiences and now it's captured like this. I know you want to sound in the fricking crap no matter how you're performing. Yeah. And the lighting is off and the whole thing but like you have these die hards that want to save this moment. Yeah. You know but I do want to but I am toying with like doing some dates with with the put your phones away and just have the experience which people aren't that mad at actually I think they like it after the fact they don't want to do it but like oh my god. Yeah be present. Yeah. Fucking president stopped filming at concerts because I've literally never gone back and watched it like you don't think you want to film it to record it to remember it but it's like you're not going to go back and watch shitty concert videos. Although when I saw Fleetwood Mac in the front row at the forum I was filming Stevie and I filmed Lindsay playing this amazing guitar solo and a couple years later I went back and watched and I was like oh my god I'm so glad I got that. So sometimes it's tough. Maybe split the difference. Maybe you can do it for like one minute and then be done and put your fucking phone away for the rest of the show. Yeah. That's okay. So we've done these two chumpness shows and we made it very clear that we don't want anyone taking pictures or anybody filming especially if we're like talking shit on the panels. Sure. And we you know we were pretty serious about it like if we see if we see it you're going to be asked to leave and we're probably going to take your phone. And then you said you would fuck their phone up. Yeah I would fuck their phone up. Step on it. I will. You said you'd never get it back. I will. Because you've been warned many times. It's such a relief too. It's like a nice break in it in its special but you know I think so many the fans kind of do it for other fans too. You know what I mean. They want to share it and oh you can't make it. I'll you know even live stream. Right. And you're like geez Louise but it's kind of part of the business you know. Considering the success of Tinsel Color I think that we should take line two. I think she has a good question. Jenny Michigan. Okay. Hey Jenny. Hey how are you. Good thank you. What's your question for Joe. Hi Jenny. Hey Joe it's your cruise duet partner Jenny Meyer how are you. So the hey so the blockheads and brave hearts out there are very proud of you for making your mark not only in the Christmas genre with Tinsel Color Jingle Bell Love Jingle Bell Wedding but Jingle Bell Wedding you had some original music in there that we all noticed. So the question I have for you is we've been listening to your Christmas album now for 14 years patiently waiting for a new one to come out. First of all thank you for being my publicist. That was shade. I got you. That was shade. But she wants a new Christmas album. Well I just you know I just made a new original non-Christmas album so I feel like I need a little bit of a break but thank you for wanting more and of course for Jingle Bell Love that song in Jingle Bell Love a brand new Christmas I wrote myself. So did you get it for free. You just threw it in. They didn't let's say they didn't back up the brainstruck for that right for that thing but smart hiring you because then they get original music. Well we wrote it. We wrote it for that and it's called the brand new Christmas but yeah can we bring that. Jenny thank you for all the plugs and I'll try to get on it. Could be worse you'd be wearing you could be waiting 30 years for an album like we've been waiting from Carney. No I made a solo Christmas album after that. 30 years ago. And then I made Wilson Phillips Christmas album Christmas in harmony. Well Christmas comes every year we need more music. There's always room for Christmas you guys. I didn't know you had another you had a Christmas album with Wilson Phillips. Yes. Can instead of writing fake reviews for the candle why don't you tell me important information like that. He didn't know. He's like I don't know. Just let him have fun. You're not a very good self promoter. Just him. I wish I could. See I'd love that tone. I could never reply to something like that. He just went. I'm like no. Not everything. He's like we're used to it. No they're all like that. That one too. Especially the kids. Yeah. The generation. Yeah. Yeah. So they talk. Now is it true that you had emergency Lasik retina surgery. Yeah. In Salt Lake. What was what's with Salt Lake. Maybe I was pissed about the laser surgery. Could be. And I was a little tense. It wasn't about the doll. Emergency. It's a thing under the thing. You know. Wait emergency. What does that mean. I was on the road. It was in early October and my. Geez. I don't even know. I think it was this one. Your left eye. And it was getting cloudy. And like you know how you I don't know. Like it was there's one thing to have like floaties or whatever. Yeah. One thing was to have like floaties but like this. It felt like there was a spider like swimming in front of my eye. It was that bad. Yeah. So I'm like oh wow. And I called one sister and then I like texted my family because they're all older than me. I'm like so come on. Fill me in guys. What's going on now. Where do I go. And they were like you need to see an eye doctor. I call my. What is it the guy for the glasses. Optimal optometrist optometrist optometrist. Optologist. Optologist. Right. So not not him. No. And he was like you you need to see someone because it could be bleeding. Sure enough. I went to one guy and he said he checked it out. And it was I was like it was the first time I was ever in front of a doctor where he didn't say all good. You know what I mean. Now of course you count your blessings and suddenly you're like oh my god how does it feel to get bad news about something really serious from a doctor. It's like holy cow. But it was kind of like a bummer because he was like oh yeah we need to you know get you to someone else. So ran to another guy who was like a retina specialist and sure enough there I am in the thing like an hour later getting laser surgery on my eyeball which feels like an eraser of a pencil just jabbing you like 20 times. You're just Christ. Yeah. You ever think though when you were going through this and it's probably pretty scary that you could sell more tickets if you were blind. Maybe a patch like Stevie Wonder. Can we work out. Can we work out. He did well for himself. Can we work our way there. What about a patch where that could be a bump or just one eye. No that means you're less hot. Even if you had a temporary blindness. Full blindness is hotter than a patch. Yes. A patch is really. Everyone loves like a. You know what you're hot saying that I'm going to give it back to you. Not that that was a compliment because I'm not blind but like the way you said it. Even if it was temporary blindness because the amount of press he would get one. I love Michael. And then if and then if they healed it then he's going to get even more press. I can see again by Joey. You for sure are going to have an aversion to oversharing which kind of holds me back. I I I share certain things but I just have a cringe thing when people go oh my god I'm sorry. Yeah. You know you use because they do care about you. All right. So I want to wrap up this story. So you had surgery and you left eye and is everything OK now. Everything's fine. I mean he he did see that there was a tear like up on the top and he zapped it and it did it took a while but it did clear up because it was it was spotty but those black spots were actually blood. It sounds. Wow. You know. But that's what why did that happen. I think it by the way they said it's like it's not your fault. And I was like yeah you know I didn't do anything. It's because I didn't bang my head. There was nothing that happened. Like it just it just kind of happens and it might be an age thing too. I mean you do do a lot of miss opportunities had you not gone blind. You do have gorgeous but he has gorgeous gorgeous blue eyes. Yeah. Jingle Bell baby maybe you should go blind. It'll be a Christmas miracle on Christmas morning when you wake up. I finally see Christmas. Oh my god I love it. I want to be a car and I want to be in the writers room. Yes. The Christmas lights bring your vision back. You don't need. Oh my god. The tree lighting ceremony you can see it and all of a sudden you can see it. Yeah. It has to be like slow like something. It's blurry. It's sparkling. It's twinkling. It's full. And then it clear. Do we see it from his vantage point. Oh my god the blurry and then it clears up. He's this baby. Oh you're right. You're all never seen the baby. Oh my god. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this listen to Jeff Lewis live every weekday on Sirius XM as well as the Jeff Lewis channel exclusively on the Sirius XM app.