The Jamie Kern Lima Show

How to Question What You Were Taught, Discover Your True Self & Embrace Your Power w/Sherri Shepherd

41 min
Sep 23, 20257 months ago
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Summary

Emmy Award-winning comedian Sherri Shepherd discusses how questioning what you've been taught and stepping outside your comfort zone leads to discovering your authentic self. She shares her journey from carrying the weight of others' expectations to finding her voice, and explores how humor serves as a unifying force during divisive times, particularly reflecting on the 2024 election and concerns about policy impacts on marginalized communities.

Insights
  • Personal authenticity emerges from actively questioning inherited beliefs rather than passively accepting what authority figures teach, requiring deliberate exposure to diverse perspectives
  • High performers balance two distinct modes: serious, perfectionist business mindset and public-facing charisma, with the tension between these creating sustainable success
  • Humor functions as a coping mechanism and social unifier during periods of national division and personal anxiety, offering psychological relief when people feel despair
  • Parenting a child with autism spectrum disorder while navigating policy uncertainty creates unique intersectional challenges that force mothers to balance independence-building with safety concerns
  • Social media oversharing in relationships creates vulnerability to exploitation and makes privacy recovery impossible, requiring intentional boundaries even for public figures
Trends
Authenticity and self-discovery through questioning societal conditioning becoming central to personal development discourseMental health and emotional wellness framed through humor and laughter as legitimate therapeutic toolsParental anxiety about policy impacts on neurodivergent and minority children driving political engagementPublic figures establishing privacy boundaries around relationships despite social media pressure for constant documentationWomen's leadership potential being reframed around traditionally feminine qualities like empathy and nurturing as political assetsIntersectional identity management for Black women navigating multiple community expectations and representation pressuresNeurodiversity awareness and accommodation becoming mainstream conversation topic in entertainment and media
Topics
Questioning inherited beliefs and religious conditioningFinding authentic voice and overcoming people-pleasing patternsHumor as therapeutic and unifying tool during social division2024 U.S. election and policy concerns (stop-and-frisk, Project 2025)Parenting neurodivergent children and independence vs. safetyWomen's leadership qualities and political representationSelf-worth and building unshakable confidenceSocial media oversharing and relationship privacyIntersectional identity and community representation pressureVoting rights and political engagementDiversity and combating prejudice through exposureDating preferences and relationship dynamicsCareer perfectionism and work-life balanceAutism spectrum disorder and social navigationEntertainment industry and talk show hosting
Companies
The View
Sherri Shepherd's primary platform for 7 years where she developed political awareness and learned to question inheri...
WWE
Sherri appeared as guest manager on WWE SmackDown episode with professional wrestler MVP
People
Sherri Shepherd
Emmy Award-winning comedian and talk show host discussing her journey of self-discovery and questioning inherited bel...
Jamie Kern Lima
Host of the podcast and founder of IT Cosmetics, interviewing Sherri Shepherd about authenticity and self-worth
Barbara Walters
Former View co-host who encouraged Sherri to read and think independently about politics rather than rely on church t...
Whoopi Goldberg
View co-host who challenged Sherri to form her own opinions by asking 'what do you think' during discussions
Joy Behar
View co-host who advised Sherri that opening her mouth means half the world will hate her, freeing her from people-pl...
Oprah Winfrey
Referenced as cultural touchstone for 'aha moments' of personal realization and self-discovery
Melinda French Gates
Testimonial provided about Jamie Kern Lima's interviewing style and presence
Jeffrey Shepherd
Sherri's 19-year-old son on the autism spectrum, central to her concerns about policy impacts and independence
Quotes
"I used to carry the weight of the world on me. Oh, I can't let black people down. I can't let black women down. I can't let Christians down."
Sherri ShepherdEarly in episode
"The moment you open your mouth, half the world's going to hate you. So go by what you feel and what you think."
Joy Behar (quoted by Sherri Shepherd)Mid-episode
"I don't look at it in a normal kind of way. I look at things through a square and try to fit that square into the circle and it doesn't. And that's my funny."
Sherri ShepherdMid-episode
"People are in despair. They're worried about their kids. They're worried about am I going to have a job? They need an hour to just go, I don't want to think about that. I just want to laugh. That's what I'm here for."
Sherri ShepherdLate episode
"In life we don't become what we want. We become what we believe we're worthy of."
Jamie Kern LimaClosing segment
Full Transcript
On today's episode, how to question everything you've been taught and become your true self with Emmy Award-winning comedian and talk show host, Sherry Shepard. You've talked about crying for three years straight on the view. How did you get to that point of saying, okay, I'm going to open my mouth and half of people aren't going to like me? I used to carry the weight of the world on me. Oh, I can't let black people down. I can't let black women down. I can't let Christians down. This is a big thing that I'm excited to talk to you about because so many women, but also people, let's just put it out there, so many people, we have all this pressure now to post on social, and then you do and you get attacked. There's going to be so many millions of people listening or watching this that are going to have an aha moment right now, as Oprah would call it, where they're like, wait a minute, I have learned a lot. How many elections have you voted in? Because I know for a while you didn't vote, right? Yeah, I was at Jehovah's with them. I didn't start voting until I got on the view. I'm definitely about unifying. I thought the country was ready for a woman. I really did. And as a black woman, I thought the country was ready for a black woman. And I have a son who's, he's 19 and he's on the spectrum. So many things are flying that stop and frisk may be implemented again. Well, stop and frisk affects young, brown and black boys. So with stop and frisk, as a mother, that's very terrifying to me. The one thing that I know, I said to the audiences, that laughter unifies. Do you feel like you're born funny? Like it's just part of your, your anointing or part of your personality? It definitely is. That is a specific gift from God that I have. I just know that when I sit in that chair, it's a responsibility, especially now. Because people are in despair. They're worried about their kids. They're worried about, you know, am I going to have a job? They're worried about racial issues. And they need an hour to just go, I don't want to think about that. I just want to laugh. That's what I'm here for. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Oprah, how have you defied the odds? Her show is unlike any I've ever done. A revelation. When you listen, it feels like a hug, but your brain and your spirit and your heart is like, wow. Melinda French Gates. When I look into Jamie's eyes, I feel like I am on some other cosmic level with her. I could see the light around her. She's infused with light. Imagine overcoming self-doubt, learning to believe in yourself and trust yourself and know you are enough. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Jamie Kern Lima is her name. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Lima in their life. Jamie Kern Lima. Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima. They say laughter is the best medicine. And my incredible guest, Sherri Shepard, is medicine for millions of us daily on her hit television talk show, Sherri. And let me just tell you from firsthand experience, it is funnier than ever. Sherri is an Emmy Award-winning, NAACP Image Award-winning, Gracie Award-winning, and that's just a few of them. Host, actress, comedian, author, and mom known for her impeccable timing and relatable humor. From her main seat on the view for seven years to her wide range of acting, business, and hosting roles, she's truly the definition of a multi-talented superstar. I fell in love with her when I got the gift of being a guest on her show this year. And actually, funny story, my husband, Paolo, fell in love with her when he heard she appeared on an episode of WWE SmackDown as a guest manager to professional wrestler MVP. Sherri has truly done it all, and yet her star is burning brighter than ever right now. And speaking of stars, Sherri will be getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame this year, so well-deserved. Sherri Shepard, welcome to the Jamie Kernley-Michelle! Oh my goodness, Jamie. Wow, I was like, who is that girl? You're like, is that me? Oh man. That's you. Wow. That's you. What an honor you're here. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. That's a lot of pressure. I feel like I'm supposed to be, you know, after you read all of it, I'm supposed to be like, really great. I think you can't help but be really great, and it was such a gift to be on your show recently, and that's where I just got to see your beautiful soul and feel it. I just want to kick it off with this topic of being funny. So it's like, study show, study show laughter improves every part of our health, our mental health, our mood, our entire life. And you call yourself a good time, a good time. And so many of us, we want to be more of a good time in our lives. And, you know, I hear from a lot of women that are like, as an adult, I feel like I've lost touch with my sense of humor. I feel like I don't even know if I'm funny anymore. I don't know how to have fun. So right off the top, Sherri Shepard. How do we get in touch with our sense of humor and like, how can we be more fun and funny? Do you feel like you're born funny? Like it's just part of your, your anointing or part of your personality? It definitely is. That is a specific gift from God that I have. And it's not to say my funny is better than other people because I'm not the, my whole family is funny. I'm not the funniest person. I'm probably the least funniest, but I do make money at being funny. My family tells me all the time, that wasn't funny what you said. That one, and when we all get together, you would crack up at everybody in my family. They're funny. So I don't, even with men, sometimes I'm, I'm very serious. You know, they go, where's the, where's that Sherri or people who work for me, Jamie, they, I will tell them. The one that you see on the chair, I'm much more scripted. Like I work really hard to create that first 20 minutes that I sit on the chair. It takes an hour for us to come up with 18 minutes of material or 14 minutes of material. And I'm a perfectionist. So I'm very serious about the business part. I think some of my dates go, wow, you kind of serious. Yeah. Well, this is probably why you're able to make money being funny because you have both sides to you. You can bring it when you need to, but then you are also, you probably have that other part of your brain where you're like, oh, this has got to be good. Because most people I meet who are really successful, no matter if they're an artist or an entertainer or a business person, doesn't matter. They have that side to them. They're very serious. Yeah, I have that side of me. I'm really, I'm really about business. I'm very serious about my, you know, my, if you ask my assistant, Edie, is Sherri funny? She'd be like, no. If I mess up with Jeffrey, I don't want to see that side of Sherri. Like, and I'm, and I know a lot of comics like that who were, you know, when they're in front of the camera, they are so funny. But then when you see them off the camera, serious is a heart attack. Yeah. My co-host on my podcast, Kim Whitley, when we're together, she makes me laugh, but she's very serious. Yeah. I'm thinking of somebody, Nisi Nash, my other bestie, very serious when we're talking. So, but when we have to go out, some, we can pull up. So when you feel like saying something and you know it's funny, do you ever doubt it or do you just like, let it come out? I don't even think, oh, this is going to be funny. I just say it. You just say it. I just, and it makes people laugh. It's just the, now I do know it's the way I look at things. Like the way I look at things is a typical person will see a circle. I look at things through a square and I, and try to fit that square into the circle and it doesn't. And that's my funny. I don't think about it. I just say it. Wow. And it's, so it's the lens at which I look at life. So I don't look at it in a, in a normal, you know, kind of way. Like I think a rant that I did on my show was about going to the podiatrist and him cutting my horns and touching my feet. And the way I looked at it was like, it was like a whole sexual experience. And it was so amazing and the way he did it and how he said, you know, I need you to wear orthotics. And I was like, I do, I do, I will wear orthotics. I don't think about, oh, this is going to be funny if I say it. That was just the experience. And I came in to my, the Hot Topics meeting and I said, I just had this experience with this podiatrist. Let me tell you about it. And once I saw they were on the floor, I go, well, we can use it. So I don't, I guess that'll, it just comes out. Wow. And it's the way I look at life. So I'm looking at life a little bit different. Don't look at it through the average type of lens. See, look at it a different way. You know, like I just went to the podiatrist and that was a sexual experience. That was, yeah. And like even now, even like with the election, without getting political, it's like, you know, it's, it's a different day. Now we have to, we have to now fight for our rights. We have to, and my immediate mindset, I was talking to a bunch of very accomplished women and we're very concerned about how do we, how is this, we're going to be for our children and, you know, standing up for our rights and fighting. And I go, well, what, okay, when you say fight, like I have sciatica. My, like what, what kind of fighting are we doing? Are we talking, are we talking about fighting, you know, intellectually? Cause I just stayed up till five in the morning watching the mayor of King's Town. So I'm a little tired. Like how much fighting can we, and marching is not for me cause I have flat feet. So do I have to wear my orthotics when I march? Is it going to be a bathroom near when I march? And you know, I can't see. So I don't even know if I'm my, my, my eyesight, I need my reading glasses. I, you know, am I going to be able to read the signs that we got to make? And you know, I'd show up on time. So all the young people, like marching is a young person's game. And it was just, I just started going off on this whole rant about marching being for young people cause they got the stamina, their feet aren't going to hurt. They don't have to go to the bathroom when, when they start going, you know, they're coming run. Okay. I can't run. I get my, my knees going to give out. I don't drop it like it's hot and they were all laughing and I go, but seriously, this is what I'm thinking. So during an election recap, during an election recap. So I can get on stage and talk about the election for 50 minutes and make it funny. Cause the way I look at, you know, it's serious to me, but some of the way I look at it is, is just a little different. Like you find the humor in it. I find the humor in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How are you feeling about the election? How am I feeling about the election? Um, I'm very disappointed because I was, I, I thought the country was, was ready for a woman. I really did. And as a black woman, I thought the country's ready for a black woman. And I, and I thought this is, I, I was so excited about Kamala Harris because I felt Kamala Harris, she may not be a biological mother where, where children came from her womb, but she's a mother. That's why she, you know, like she has her step daughter, her step kids and she, I felt finally we're going to have a woman who has mothering instincts and nurturing instincts who can run. The country. If you women, we've run so many things and there's a, you know, I'm definitely, we have things that men don't have our femininity, our, our softness, our compassion, our empathy. And I thought, this is what we need. Somebody who's going to sit there and go, you, you, we're not doing this war thing. We're not, uh-uh, we're going to come to the table. We're going to sit down and we're going to talk until one of us is tired. But we're going to look for solutions rather than just clashing somebody who can, who can empathize over here and over here. Cause that's what we do when we have to, you know, negotiate things. And I thought, finally, we, you're going to see what a woman brings, the strength and the power of just being a woman. What people love being around us, why a mother can take you in her arms and say, it's going to be all right. I don't care what happens. Anybody who goes to a courtroom, they could commit the worst of crimes and their mama will be right there going, but that's my baby. And I said, we're going to have someone leading a country like that who just has these qualities that have not been seen. So I, it, for me, it was disappointing. And I have a son who's, um, he's 19 and he's on the spectrum. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. And so it wasn't so much worried about me. It was, how do I explain this to a boy whose brain processes differently? He doesn't understand project 2025. He doesn't understand. So it's a lot of stress on me because I think that they said, you know, and I don't know if it's true or not. So it could, so many things are fine that stop and frisk may be implemented again. Well, stopping frisk affects young brown and black boys. And my son is now trying to get his independence as a 19 year old. So I allow him to get on the train and just go and get off. He just hasn't let me know where he's at. He took the train to Brooklyn to go to a Nets game, but he went three hours before the game started because he just wanted to walk around. And he just wanders around and he, because he's got this, he'll say, mommy, I'm so excited, but you don't see it on his face. And he'll say, I'm so excited. And, and so if you just look at him, he just looks like a grown man who just is kind of blank, but he's taken in everything. So I let him walk around Brooklyn for three hours. He went to, he said, mommy, I'm at getting a iced tea. Mommy, I went to this Chipotle. I'm sitting down eating. Mommy, I'm at the Barclay Center. So I'm going in the museum, but I, it was very scary for me. But I said he needs to get his independence. He needs to feed. He's 19, 19 year old things are happening in his body, but his brain is not, it doesn't process everything. You know, so he doesn't, he has a hard time sensing energy. So bad energy. He doesn't sense. He just walks around very free. If you talk to him, he'll give you a big smile. You know, he's got a job working at the movie theater taking tickets. And so he's very innocent. So with stopping frisk, uh, as a mother, that's very terrifying to me because for somebody who's on the spectrum, if there's a lot of people saying, get down, put your hands behind me, that confuses him. And he's going to be like, dude, I can't be, he doesn't like to be touched. So all of these things as a mother with a child, an adult, but he's my baby of special needs. This, this scares me because now I have to go home and explain to Jeffrey, I just can't let you go and go to a restaurant by yourself and you want to walk around the block because he wants to be like the teenagers that he sees. He points him out all the time, mommy, I want to be like them. They're just walking around, just walking around. You know, Jeffrey forgets to bring his ID with him. He, he's, you know, he's just not aware. And if my son saw the windows broken out of our house with the door hanging wide open, he wouldn't think, oh, somebody made broken out. I better call my mom. He go, he'd go inside. He could see five people sitting at the table who don't belong there and he go, what's up bro and go up in his room. So now hearing that and going, my son wants independence. I want him to find independence. I want him to be able to walk around New York City. He can't, I, I, how do I explain to him that I cannot allow you to do that? And then I don't want to put fear on him, but I'm scared. So what I think about the election, it is concerning to me. I did not vote for Donald Trump. I voted for Kamala Harris and Tim Walts because her message of moving the country forward and it being a new day and unifying. I'm definitely about unifying. I said that on my show, we found out that Donald Trump had become president of the United States and I go, how do I go and make people laugh? There will be a lot of people that are going to be happy and there are going to be a lot of people who are devastated. There's a lot of rights that are going to be rolled back with Project 2025, you know, education. If you don't know your history, then how are you going to know what your future is? And that was a heavy day for me. But I said, the one thing that I know, I said to the audience is that laughter unifies. And I could hear grumblings in the audience. There were people who were very happy. They clapped when I said there's some people that are going to be happy today and some people clapped. And then I could hear grumbling in the audience of people who didn't, who had voted another way. And I said, but if you would allow me to do what I do, make you laugh, because that's what I know how to do with my eyes closed. Let me do the work for you. And they clapped. And so the one thing I know is humor and laughter. It's needed. I have friends who think what I do is, you know, you talk show, you're great, you're an entertainer, you're an actor, you're great, but it's not moving the world. It's not changing the world. Don't tell me that. It's needed more than ever. And I feel it's like an assignment from God. I'm thankful that he's using me because there's people who are funnier than me. But I just know that when I sit in that chair, it's a responsibility, especially now because people are in despair. They're worried about their kids. They're worried about, you know, am I going to have a job? They're worried about racial issues and they need an hour to just go. I don't want to think about that. I just want to laugh. That's what I'm here for. I'm not going to give you the news of the day and this breaking news and this political and this and then I'm disappointed. I need to find a way to move on and I need to find a way to unify and I need, you know, and I want to love. So, but there, but those are the issues that, you know, as with this election. How does this affect my child who's on the spectrum who just really isn't aware? What are you going to do? Like, because he's 19 and I'm struggling with that. I'm really, really struggling with that because I want him to grow up and not be fearful. I want him to grow up with as much independence as he can have. I want him to be happy and be at a job that he loves and he loves people. Like, you know, I'm scared for my son. My son, you know, he came to me years ago and he's like, mommy, I like white girls. I like them to have big butts like a Kardashian. That's what he said to me. What'd you say? And I said, well, you know, mommy got a big button. He's like, oh, well, that's gross. But my son goes to a special needs school. So really everybody he's growing up with, the girls have been white. That's all he knows. And his cousins are black girls, a little black girls. And his experience with them is they always call and go, auntie, Jeffrey won't do this. Jeffrey won't do that. So that he gets in trouble with the black girls he knows. So that he's never been around a really maybe one black girl that he liked in a school. He was like, but she likes all of the white boys. So when he came and he said that to me, I'm like, it's very funny. So he went to a prom with a girl who was white. There's this girl. Yeah, I can't wait. He told me not to talk about him too much, but it's like, so that concerns me because I'm like him walking down the street with this. All of the stuff going on. If somebody confronts Jeffrey, he doesn't it like all that doesn't bother him. Even him right. He rides a train now to school by himself. And I go, does anybody say anything to you? He goes, yeah, but I just ignore it. He said, I said next to a guy and he woke him. He's like, why are you sitting next to me? And I go, what did you do? He goes, I just ignored it. So when am I going to say Jamie? I don't know. I'm praying all the time going, okay, we're here. This is a new day. And now I have to teach my son, Lord, how do I do that with the way the challenge is that he faces the way he processes in his brain? How do I do that? I don't know. This is the first time I've ever been a mother of a child who has special needs and it's, you know, who doesn't just get it. With speaking of him dating. So with you dating, do you look for like, is there a type you have? There's so much more coming up in this episode. You are not going to want to miss it. But first I wanted to share this with you. In life, you don't sort the level of your hopes and dreams. You stay stuck at the level of your self worth. When you build your self worth, you change your entire life. And that's exactly why I wrote my new book, Worthy, how to believe you are enough and transform your life for you. 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It's called One on One with Jamie and it's delivered right to your inbox each Tuesday morning. It's a love letter from me to you, from my soul to yours. And I hope it brings you the words and messages you need at just the right moment. Plus, when you're part of my free inspirational newsletter community, you'll be the first to get behind the scenes content, inspirational messages, and be the first to learn about upcoming events and more. It's the place to be and I sure hope you'll join me there. So if you're not on the list yet, you can sign up for free at JamieCurneyLima.com or click the link in the show notes below. And here's to becoming unstoppable together. And now more of this incredible conversation together. So with you dating, do you look for like, is there a type you have? They have to be funny. Yeah. And I have to humor gets me. Yeah. And funny. I like that because I think that can break a lot of that can break a you know, I love to do a good belly laugh. Yeah. And I have a good sense of humor too. So if somebody does something and they make me laugh like a big good laugh. Yeah. You got a real big shot with me. I love but my husband was a comic, Jeffries Daddy. He was a comic. If I see you on stage and you can make me laugh. I'm like, oh man. I love it. So humor really is a big one. Do you feel like it's great because you can actually just like exhale and let them be funny because you're often so funny. Then you don't have to be all the time when I don't have to be all the time. It's it's kind of like a meeting of the minds because if you're funny, you you can get, you know, I know you have your series. But now I can't have me with a man who's funny 24 seven. Yeah. That would that drives me up the wall. Yeah. Like just be chill and just let it flow. People try to be funny all the time. Comics try to be funny around me all the time. I can't. I have to walk away. Yeah. So if I if I go out on a date with you and 24 seven, you're funny. I'm just like, oh, this is awful. Do you have a physical type like you mentioned, Jeffrey likes the Kardashians. Do you have like a physical type you go for or one that you will not go for? I can go for I don't like I'm real tall because my ex my my the last ex husband was six, five, six. That's too tall. Like even even in bed, it is just it's all off. Like it's the it's too tall. Even when you take pictures, you got to do the camera a different way. He's cut off or it either looks like I'm the little girl holding his hand. It's just off. You know, I'm always looking up like this, that one like that. And I don't feel like you can protect me when you're that tall because all somebody's got to do is kick you in the knees and you're going down. Like you'd like a big giant is going to go down. So I like short guys. I do. I like short men or compact, but they got the short man anger, which I like to because they, you know, it's always something is going to set them off because they short. And you like that. I do. So I like men that are probably let me see. I'm five one probably five, seven and eight. That's that's the cutoff right there. You're making a whole lot of people's days right now. That's like, I'm never okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Give me give me a short, but I, but I, I like a man who's healthy. Yeah. Who takes care of himself. So if you're like a couch potato and you want to sit around in your underwear and friggin drink beer and burp and fart that I'm not that one. Like I'm at the gym. Yeah. I'm trying to take care of myself. I walk out. It's not like, you know, I don't climb mountains and go hiking and lay out in a tent out at night. But if you, but I do like going to the gym, I do like to walk. So if you're somebody who likes to take care of yourself too, I like that. Yeah. Are you dating now? Anyone now? Yeah. This is what I learned. This is what I learned in all of my public marriages, public divorces, really observing social media. The moment you start putting stuff out there, everybody wants to know who, who they are. And what I realized in putting stuff out there, they did not ask for this life. I asked for it. Yeah. So it's not fair. And I've, I also feel like there's something I would like to protect. Yeah. Every, I'm so open with everything that I talk about. I even talk about dates that I go on, but I never mentioned a name. I never mentioned you. I never, I never, mm-mm. But it's just like, there's got to be something, I think people overshare so much on social media. Yeah. We're so wanting everybody to see us holding hands and wearing the T-shirt of I'm his and he's mine. And we got to show people us kissing and, and, you know, eating together. And that's great. That's great. But I think it should be a period of date for a minute. Get to know them before you let the whole world into your life. Cause a moment something happens and you're like, please respect my privacy. Please don't make any comments. I'm turning, but you've given it to us. You have open, once you open the door in social media to people, they don't forget. Yeah. It will always be dredged up even though you've healed from it. Yeah. And, I think you get the opposite. You probably also date people that because, you know, you, they know you're famous and they're like, Oh, I want to be out. Like I want to be out there. Yeah. It's a protective thing. It's a protective thing. I don't want people thinking that if they go on a date with me, we're now going to be posting on Instagram and they get that. I, I have been, I have been hurt before like that. Like, okay, all you want to do is go on the red carpet. Yeah. Wow. All you want to do is you want me to introduce you to Tina Fey to read your script. Oh, that has happened before and I can, I can sense it. Yeah. And it really, and I go, Oh, so yeah, I have definitely experienced that. So you voted in this election. I did. How many elections have you voted in? Cause I know for a while you didn't vote, right? Yeah. I was at general. So I didn't, I didn't vote for, I didn't start voting until I got on the view. Like I was not into politics. Like I really could talk about politics all day with somebody. Yeah. I love politics. Yes. I Barbara Walters said something to me that made me do it when people talk crazy to you or, or you feel like you're fail. It really is, I feel like don't look at it as failure. Just get back up and fix or course correct. But we need that. And for the view, I didn't know anything about politics. I never voted before. And one time Barbara Walters said to me, dear, read a book. All I knew was what the church taught me. That's what it was. I didn't think for myself. I just knew what the church had taught me or, you know, what I had learned when I was a witness. So when she said that she was like, read a book. And what I realized is sometimes we have to get out of where we live. We have to go travel the world. We have to meet people that are different from us because when you don't, that's how you get prejudiced. And that's how you get judgmental when you don't meet people that are not like you. When you meet people that, that are different from you. And I just remember that what Barbara said to me and we were talking about something on the view. And I remember what I, what I learned. But whoopie said, but what do you think? What do you think about that? And I was like, I don't know. So, you know, just in that's so powerful. I just want to, I just want to say that again, because there's, there's going to be so many millions of people listening or watching this that are going to have an aha moment right now is over. We'll call it where they're like, wait a minute. I have learned a lot. I've been taught a lot. But wait a minute. What do I actually think? Not what does my partner think? Not what does my parents think? Not what did my teachers teach me to think? What do I actually think? Yeah. And so now, yeah. So you got to have whoopie on because she was just, that one hit me. What Barbara said, what whoopie said, Joy Bayhars said, because I used to carry the weight of the world on me when I was doing the view. Oh, I can't let black people down. I can't let black women down. I can't let Christians down. It's a lot. That's a lot to carry. And Joy Bayhars said to me, Sherry, the moment you open your mouth, half the world's going to hate you. So, you know, go by what you feel and what you think. And once I started stepping out of my comfort zone and out of where I lived in little Hoffman Estates, Illinois, and I got to meeting people, I went, oh, you can't possibly be evil. Your heart is so beautiful. And I'm supposed to love. And how am I going to judge you for who you marry when I couldn't even make two of them work? I couldn't get through two. They lasted both total, maybe six, seven years. And you have been with your partner for 21 years. Somebody doing something right. This is a big thing that I'm excited to talk to you about because so many women, but also people, let's just put out there. So many people, we have this pressure now to post on social. And then you do and you get attacked. You say your opinion, you get attacked. Most women are raised people pleasers. Everyone's afraid to say what they think. And then, you know, Joy Bayhars shared with you, if you just open your mouth, you're going to make half the people hate you. But life's too short to keep our mouth, like to live with a closed mouth our whole life. Coming up, this conversation is so incredible. We made it into two episodes. And if you're someone who wants to break through fear and learn to truly trust your voice, get what you want in life and step into your purpose, you are not going to want to miss part two with Sherri Shepherd coming up in the next episode of the Jamie Kern Lima show. 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