305 - Kevin Nealon

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Oh, no. And she goes, honey, it's Kevin. And he looks up and he's got a black eye already. and he sees me and goes, hey, hey, hey. And he puts his head back down. She goes, honey, honey, it's Kevin. I say, hey, you guys want to get a picture? Because I'm so used to the, hey, let's go get a picture. Let's get a picture. And he's like, no, no. And then she goes, come on, come on. And so he picks his head up, the black eye, and he puts on his most painful smile. I take the picture. I don't even know if he survived. It's breaking bread. How do we do it, man? I'm not sure. How do we do it at your age? That's what I wanted to ask you. They gave me a spot at the comedy store tonight at 1030. What would you do if they offered you 1030? I'd take it. You would? Yeah. I got a nap beforehand. No, I mean, I like the, so when I go on the road, which I do quite often, I love it when they have a six o'clock show and an 830. show. And I'm back at the hotel room watching Turner Classics at 10.30. Yeah. I know. Yeah. 10.30. If you don't have anything before it, that's a pretty light start. Yeah. That's true. Especially if you live away and your kids are grown up, right? Yeah. Yeah. I used to, my son just went off to college. He's 18. Oh, wow. But I used to hate leaving to go on the road and not see him on the weekends. you know yeah so when i'm in town if i'm doing like a gig uh-huh i'll do it either really early so i get back and he's still awake yeah or you know i'll do it really late but he stays up till like midnight so yeah and i'd always rush home to see if his light in his bedroom was on oh and then i'd run up there nice you're a good dad did you cry when he left well we were really um had mixed feelings about being empty nesters because he's the only child but we were kind of looking forward to it so then he got accepted at USC so it cost us a lot of money we had to move to the east coast to become MP Nesters no but it's nice to have him kind of close yeah but we did cry when we dropped him off at Montessori school when he was like 3 or whatever in the parking lot because it was the first time I cried when we dropped him off at college It was the first one. I have two. I was keeping it together and then just started sobbing. How about your wife? We pulled away. Both of you? Yeah. I just had to pull the car over just to cry so I could see straight. I know. We did that. And then we realized how much time we have to ourselves at home. Yeah. Is it cool? It's pretty great. I mean, at least in grammar school, college is a little bit more. How far away did they go? East Coast. Oh, okay. yeah but it is nice you walk around the house with no pants on it's pretty good i made you this bread that's right you make bread i bake this for you can i have a piece this morning sure is it really i think it's really hard because you have a saw oh shit do we have the um yeah i designed this did you really yeah this is uh this is through this company called nombe what do you mean you don't have talent uh do we have a plate for the olive oil for the great kevin neely are you kidding Amy, I hate to eat while we're talking. We could always use one of these. Oh, the candle one. We have many C's that we use the candle. You're really good at this now, right? Yeah. Well, look at it. Isn't it beautiful? It's gorgeous. It looks a little burnt on the top, but I like it like that. I like it. I've been going darker lately. Yeah. I think it gives it a richer flavor. What different kinds do you make? Is this your specialty here? Yeah. Oh, that's it. Thank you, Danielle. Yeah, this is a sourdough country loaf, and it's whole wheat and white. I didn't know you could mix the two. In the north. Yeah. Here's your bread. Thank you. Oh, this piece. I thought you were going to give me the big piece. You're going to give me the piece. All right, I'll take this one. It's yours. You get to take the whole thing home. This looks. I have a little bag for you. Oh, my God, this is great. Yeah, this is all for you. I'm going to take that home with me? Yeah Oh my god I can't wait to get out of here This is amazing man Yeah you're welcome You just use oil, you don't add vinegar to it as well? Put vinegar on the list God dang, nab it We always think we have it nailed And butter Kenan was here yesterday And Thompson Oh and he wanted salt. Oh, I get it. How is it? Really good. Yeah? I like it's chewy. Yeah. It's got a good bite to it. Nice. That's what Paul Hollywood was saying. The British Bake Off. The British Bake Off. It's got a good bite to it. It's got a good bite. Good flavor. Good flavor. Yeah. Nice crumb. Nice crumb. It's a little flat on the inside. The crust is nice. A little soft. Kevin, I follow Kevin's touring schedule from probably five years ago or four years ago. I feel like I'm always a little behind. Whenever I get there, you're already in a frame on the wall of when you were there. And for a while, I was taking pictures. You were sending them to me. And sending them to you every time I got someplace else. I know. I know. Congratulations on the new special. Thank you. Yeah. It's been a long time since I made it. I'm not one of these comics who comes out with a special every year. Yeah. Because that's not special. I wait. I wait like maybe seven years, so it's really special. And the material is thought out, and it's good. It is really good. Yeah. You have so many jokes. Thank you. So many smart, funny jokes. You really make me laugh. It's called Loosen the Crotch. Loosen the Crotch. It's going to be on YouTube January 27th on the 800-pound gorilla platform. Nice. and I'm telling you man I've you know I've been doing this long like you a long time right and you kind of you've put in the 10,000 hours you there's no discomfort on stage there's no nervousness you know you're at your prime top of your game you're writing you know your style now you're not being influenced by somebody in the beginning you know trying to emulate somebody you know who you are and and you know how to write for yourself and that's what it's come down to for me where i just i have a certain style and people say that's a neil and joke you know that's you know what i mean yeah and uh i'm okay with that but there's sometimes where i get to the point where i think man i should be doing more kind of like nate bargatze kind of story stuff you know because he does really well with the arenas and stuff what am i doing wrong you know yeah right everyone's saying, should I be like Nate and sell 20,000 seats, 30,000 seats? I just can't do an accent. Right. I don't come off that dumb. But I do like the special. It's really fun. Typically, it's hard for me to watch myself. How about you? I don't mind watching you. A lot of times I'll just listen to it. Damn you. You got me. Yeah, it depends. It depends. If I look good, I can watch it. Always. But then there's times where it's just like I was shooting a game show one time, and we were doing the run-through. And I was looking at myself on the monitor, and I was like, who is this monster? And I took a screenshot of it, and I sent it to my daughter, and I said, should this person be on television? Just this fat head, just bloated. So that's where I go. I go back and forth. It's all lighting. It's all lighting. You'll look like that's how you look. It's just bad lighting. When you look good, it's good lighting. That's all it is. But yeah, so for me, that's difficult. So at this point, I do all my editing, my own editing. Or actually, I'll let it with somebody, what they have. And you get so particular about it. And it's almost like, you know, and I'm taken from two different shows, right? And I got the mic in one hand and the mic in the other hand for the second part of the show. Oh, nobody will notice. Nobody will notice. but uh it's a it's a process and it's a lot of work so i'm really proud of this one so are you able to watch yourself like if you're editing oh yeah i have to yeah i have to do you cringe first do you have to get used to it i cringe the whole time when i'm editing oh the jokes are good but i hate this guy yeah and here's the other thing too when you do a special you know you do your best yeah do two shows and then you go on the road after that and you're crushing it with that same at you're much better you're looser you've had tags onto it right and you're thinking why couldn't why didn't i just wait two weeks before i did it come off the road from this kind of gigs you know i know i know that the pressure it's that's kind of weird like all the things you said about knowing yourself and be able to write for yourself and like you the 10 000 hours but still there's that little tighten up on shoot night there's still a little bit of a yeah when you sit in makeup for an hour and hair and you know you're going over your notes um i wish i had just come off the road from doing like a five show weekend somewhere you know yeah instead of i was doing like a spot here in la and another one out in the valley and the crowds weren't that good yeah and so um yeah and then i you know i forgot a couple of jokes on both shows oh yeah yeah and uh yeah because yeah something's still happening to your brain you're still a little bit because you're doing it alone you're in doing all these shows just you maybe your tour manager you just kind of and then all of a sudden there's a lot of people around and they're acting like it's and then you got people coming and say hi to you before the show like hey man congratulations yeah i'm working on my notes i'm just trying to cram all the sending maybe after the show how's that how's susan how's susan doing good i read uh the wright brothers biography yeah i think it was mccullough maybe wrote it and they were talking about uh they brought the plane over to uh france and they would do like these kind of shows where they would take the plane out after the original flight after the original flight and they would fly around and show people stuff and the first one that when they were there it was a big thing and people were like how susan and all this stuff and and they went out and they had problems and it kind of messed up and it It wasn't that great. And they learned, the brothers, that at a certain point, before we do these events, before we fly, just no one's allowed and we shut the door. It's not arrogant. It's not. We just shut the door and shut them out. That's right. And just to get your head straight. I love that. Yeah. I love that. You know, it's funny when you talk about the Wright brothers, I remember reading something where there's somebody else who invented flight before they did, but they didn't get the attention that the Wright brothers did. Oh, really? Because I guess there was only one of them. I don't know. And it's been like that for a lot of different things. Ouch. The people that are getting the credit weren't really deserving it to be the first one. Yeah. Right? Yeah. You're the first one to do stand-up. I'm the first one to do stand-up. Right. But you take credit for it. Right. I know. And still, I don't get the credit I think I deserve. So you made this bread. And what about the oil? Do you have a particular oil you like on the bread? No. We like olive oil. We used canola for a while, but people were getting sick in the middle of the interview. We had an olive oil guy on early on in the podcast. He should come back on. But this is good. Buona fortuna. the thing with olive oil is you want to make sure that it is a single source that it comes from one place one of one of let me squeeze that thing dry baby come on you can get a little more out of that are you still doing your hiking yeah which you did i did the day before thanksgiving one year hiking with kevin it's on youtube as well yeah i've done about 170 of these hikes now nice for two knee replacements who was the worst person to hike with what I kid about David Spade because he kept putting it off for a long time I'll do it but I can't go during traffic hours and it's got to be flat and bring some food because I'm hypoglycemic. And he's just looking for things to complain about. You know, we're walking flat and maybe it's going up like an inch. He goes, are we going uphill? Yeah, so anyway, he was fun. Who's your best friend from SNL? John Belushi. Oh, yeah? No. I don't really have a best friend. Dana and I hang out a lot, Dana Carvey. Yeah. We talk a lot, actually. You think it's weird that adults have best friends? I don't have a best friend either. I think best friends come and go. Right. So maybe it's a temporary best friend. Like I have a best friend that I don't really see anymore, but I still consider him one of my best friends. Right. Because he lives a little bit further away. But we have so much history and so much connection. um but you know adam sandler we hung out a lot we hang out a lot doing those films right but dana um i see i see those two guys the most david spade yeah yeah uh do you hang out with them when you're not working uh unless i run into them yeah i don't yeah that is the cool thing about this business is like when you get to hang out with your friends while you're working that it's like yeah right yeah i had to go early for a meeting into hollywood today no it was a couple weeks ago and i you know because i was already in town i don't have to drive all the way back you know then come back to hollywood so i thought well i'll just i'll just hang out with some friends and i realized i have no friends in hollywood because nobody lives there right i had like one or two friends but they were gone you know yeah i just sit in that dark starbucks i know i think about that when i'm in new york sometimes it's like uh i always have this vision because i'm not there anymore that i've just got tons of friends and when i get to new york i'll go hang out with everybody and then you get there and you're like you call the one or two and they're not around and you're like i just go back to the room i know right but you know what it's like too when um when you're younger you go out you go to the clubs and afterwards you go out maybe drink and have a couple of drinks at different clubs or the hot club on the college campus, whatever. And you go to movies during the day. You hang out at the mall. And then as you're older, like we said, you've got the Turner Classics on your laptop, and you're happy just being in bed with room service. I know. Yeah. I love that. Oh, it's so great. Oh, I can't wait. When I'm doing my stand-up, the second show, I'm thinking, oh, it's going to be so nice to get back to that room. And then I've got all day tomorrow just to watch all the movies. I know. I think that when I leave the room to go to the venue, when I'm leaving, I'm just like one last look. I'm like, oh, I can't wait until I'm back here. I remember when Lost was on. It was like the hot series, you know? Yeah. And I was really caught up in that. And I'd be on stage just thinking about Lost and my second show. Getting home. I was thinking what's going to happen. Because, you know, when you've been doing stand-up this long, you could cruise control and think about other things. Yeah. You know? Yep. You just daydream in the middle of telling jokes. Yeah, yeah. They don't know. Are you watching anything now? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I watch a lot of stuff with my son. Yeah. He's into a lot of stuff that I enjoy, too. Well, I'm kind of catching up on Stranger Things. On Stranger Things? Yeah. Yeah. Also, oh, I just started watching Hijack. Hijack? Yeah, this is the second season. Wow. It was really good. The first season somebody on a plane He like a special agent and nobody knows it He trying to think of the right time to you know knock these guys out Right So you know it and there other stories going on So that's the whole season of him on the plane, trying to get it to land. And now it's season two. He's on a train. I'm going right along with it. I said, okay, train. Great. Let's do a train. It's gotta be a bus next year. They're going to run out of things to hijack. So yeah, watching those, I thought, oh, Succession. I got to that late. But I love that. Yeah, that was really good. I love that one. It was good. I like Ripley was a good one. Did you watch Ripley? Ripley, no. Oh, it's so good. Oh, yeah. It's black and white. Every shot is like a photograph. Really? It's so good, yeah. Dakota Fanning plays the woman. Oh, nice. She's really good. Let me just go back a little bit. Okay. You are such a good comic. You are so dedicated to your craft. Yeah. I see that when I see you. Also, I see somebody who's not over-anxious and have anxiety attacks. You're just so like, matter of fact, this is what I do. This is my act. I'm clean. Sometimes I wear a jacket and a tie. I'm trying to keep that whole thing going. Thank you, I think. Do you like my material? I do like your material. I think it's smart. I think it's relatable. Right. And it's clean. Do you think I should be dirtier? Should I be edgier? No. No. I don't think you need to change your material. Right. I think you just need to let the audience find you. How long have you been doing this? I used to think that. Like we said earlier, how can I change my act to get more people? but I think you got to just keep doing what you're doing, man. Yeah. It's very, it is a very funny period that I'm in where I, you watch like comedians argue with each other. Like there's like debates of like, you know, right wing comics and comics are talking about this. And they're kind of like back and forth or the woke thing. And, and it's so funny to be in the same business and not give a shit about any of that. I'm like, I could care less what you guys are fighting about. I don't care. My audience doesn't care. it's so i feel like no i'm just in my bubble with my people this is what you do man i've noticed um as i get older my audiences are getting older uh-huh because sometimes i look behind the curtain i'll see them all out there gray haired bald fat and i go oh no but then i realize i'm older than they are probably and i start and i tell them i say you guys got to take better care of yourselves because i'm coming down the home stretch and i need you more than you need me And you look around, you know what I'm talking about. Get your act together. How many of you aren't on compression socks here? That is funny. Like, if they die, you have no audience. And the last, Tom, I swear to you, the last two years, they've had to stop my show five times. Because somebody collapsed. They fell off the sea onto the ground. You know, they had a medical condition. Yeah. They had to stop the show, put the lights on. Literally five times? Literally, yeah. At least five times. Oh, my God. And one time at the Ice House about a year ago, I'm on stage, and I hear a cock, cock. I think, oh, this guy's messing with me. So I move to the other side of the stage. And I hear a woman in the back go, he's choking. He's choking. Oh, no. I said, no, I'm doing it. I feel confident. I feel confident. But some guy apparently was choking. I turn, and he's like, oh, and the people are around him. Oh, no. And she yells out, give him the Heimlich maneuver. a woman who wasn't even close to him. Just barking orders. Yeah. So I know the Heimlich maneuver. I've never done it to anybody. No. But I've always kind of, you know, I've avoided it. Yeah. If somebody else can get there before me and I give that person enough time, somebody comes out of the woodwork and they'll do it. So I go, well, I guess now I got to do it. No. So I jump off the stage. I get behind the person and he's heavy. I could barely pick him up. And I told the people, I said, lift him up, lift him up. And I'm about ready to do that compression on his chest. And the woman goes, oh, he's away. He's okay. Wait, he's all right. He's all right. All right. He's all right. And they take him into the green room. Oh, wow. I got like 10 minutes more left on my set. So I just tear him apart. And I go back to the green room. And he is so grateful. He's so grateful. But he wasn't choking. He wasn't? That woman knew nothing in the back. And he had a reaction from the alcohol into the stomach cancer medicine he was taking. Oh, no. So I was about to squeeze his stomach cancer. But that's kind of the best case scenario because everyone thought you were a hero because you went down. You made the move. Yeah, I tried to. You're trying to help. Another time somebody fell off, get him some aspirin. You know, there's always somebody who thinks they're a doctor. I know, it's true. He's heart attack. No, he's dehydrated. No, his wife came into the room. He's having a heart attack. His ex-wife. Get the ex-wife out of here. And then when they stand up at the end, everyone applauds like a football player getting up after them. Yeah, yeah. My favorite, I think they got probably the hardest laugh I've ever got in my life. And when the piano player laughs, you know it's funny. That's the comedy cellar. And I steal my act. It was the other comedy cellar, the bigger one. Yeah. And the underground. Somebody fell off the chair. They passed out, and everybody's pushing the chairs away. They're getting around them. Yeah. And I was talking about this cookie that I have. It's a nice chocolate chip cookie, and then it happened. And they turn the lights on. Everything stops. Ten minutes later, the EMTs take her away. Oh, my God. They set everything up. They turn the lights on, back on me, and it just picked right up. But look at chocolate chip cookie. You know the kind I'm talking about. You know, the chocolate's warm still. it's still warm for the didn't even mention it it's great yeah that's fun i like i like that are you are you on the road yeah yeah yeah a lot you do go a lot but you know it's easier for me now because my son's in college right so i don't feel like i'm missing you don't feel bad him that much yeah i do miss my wife but you know she's done growing she's not changing her parents her voice is not getting deeper. Does she have any interest in going with you on the road? Not at all. Yeah. She doesn't like stand up comedy. She's an improv player. She used to be in the Groundlings Sunday Company. And she teaches improv now to Down syndrome kids out in the valley. Oh, wow. Yeah. But she does not like stand up. And I think she worries about me too. Oh, yeah. Either bombing or, you know, not saying the right thing. You mean she gets uncomfortable when she's around you performing? Yeah, she's uncomfortable. Right, right. Yeah. She gets nervous. That's weird. because she's in improv. What about your wife? Does she? My wife was a comedian. Oh, really? When we first met. Is it Nikki Glaser? It is Nikki Glaser. And Cynthia Corey. And we met at the comic strip years ago. And then when we had babies, she stopped. Does she like your stand-up? She likes my stand-up. but uh those aren't real grapes and um now that my kids are gone she still works part-time as a teacher um but i do get the sense that she's not interested in going on the road yeah i mean why would somebody want to go on the road when they don't have to it's like unless you're going to hawaii oh i'll go yeah cool place right exactly a city where they know people yeah that kind of a thing yeah i was doing a show and you do meet and greets yeah afterwards sometimes in between the shows they have maybe a dozen people that come back they pay a little extra uh-huh and you give them a little massage you know and uh and so i finished the whole picture thing you know like i had a little small talk hey come on let's get a picture yeah come out of my studio hey what is that what kind of phone is that you know and then um the manager comes against hey there's a couple out front uh they flew all the way in from atlanta to see you they're huge fans and um the husband fell and hit his head in the bar and he's really hurting i was wondering if you can go out there maybe just say hi to him because then i could be able to go to the show i said sure sure i go out there and the wife sees me she's so excited and the husband has his head down between his knees with a cold ice compress. Oh, no. And she goes, honey, it's Kevin. And he looks up, and he's got a black eye already. And he sees me. He goes, hey, hey, hey. And he puts his head back down. She goes, honey, honey, it's Kevin. I say, hey, you guys want to get a picture? Because I'm so used to the, hey, let's go get a picture. Let's get a picture. And she goes, honey, you want to get a picture? And he's like, no, no. And then she goes, come on, come on. And I'm like right behind her. Yeah, let's get a picture. Come on. And so he picks his head up, the black eye, and he puts on his most painful smile. I take the picture. I don't even know if he survived. Brain falling out of the ear. Oh, my God. Yeah. Man. I was doing for – I have in my merch and stuff, I have books. And I was like, this is nice to go. I'll just go meet people and go out to the merch thing and sign books for people. And I found it to be like nice. Like you go out there and you just no paid meet and greet. Just go out there and everybody gets in line and you hear all those stories like these. We drove six hours or we we saw you, you know, in Vegas or whatever. And it was like a really nice way to like kind of see people and meet people. but it's as long as the show it's like another hour of selfies small talk yeah taking pictures with everybody anybody's buying the book hardly it's it it's good but it is like a lot and because i've done it for a while i feel a little guilty about not doing it but well i don't know do i have to kevin depends on what you're selling out there i sell produce so it's you know it's it's not that hard everybody wants produce i think i used to do that i would have a cd or dvd i would sell from a special out there or i had a book that i would sell an autograph and um it's it's a lot of work it's a lot it wasn't worth it to me the amount i sold yeah i see some some of these big comics you know they sell merch and they make more money doing that than they do their gig usually you know they have t-shirts and you know they have stores all over the country Nate has a theme park he's working on so I stopped doing it but I did it for a while but it really wasn't worth the money to me I'm not thinking about the money can I have a piece of your bread? I'm not thinking so much about the money as much as just, I don't know, it was just nice meeting people and it was kind of like fun especially when I was going through markets I hadn't been before I was like, oh, you know they'll be happy to come back I guess that's thinking about the money that they'll come back So I'm allowed to just do the show and go home. You're there to make people laugh. Not to sell stuff. How long do you do in a set on the road? Hour 10? About that. I don't even have an emcee anymore. No? Two-man show. Because when you have an emcee, actually an emcee once said, this man needs no introduction. I thought, you know what, he's right. He's right. Why am I having this emcee here? It just takes up more audience time. Why am I paying for this guy? Yeah. So I've got a two-man show. You have an opener. Come out and do like 12 minutes. Thank them. Now, I have a thing I'm doing now. It's real jazzy. 12? They do 12? Yeah. 12 to 15. So here's what I do. The sound man comes back and goes, what music do you want to come out to? And what credits? I say, don't worry about it. I don't need an introduction, I've been told. So I don't have an introduction. The opening act finishes. Thanks the audience. says enjoy Kevin leaves 10 seconds goes by and then I have to sound and start playing my walkout song I get let it play for a while and then I come out no intro people see me oh it's him it's him just like we thought and then I finish and then I have another rendition of that song played loud like boom and I hit it you know and then I leave and then that's the show And now a word from our sponsors. We'd like to thank the good people at Factor for sponsoring today's program. We love Factor. Man, when Factor shows up and you get just a stack of meals, I'm telling you, your shoulders just relax. You just put them in the fridge and they come in these cool containers and they're very easy to read. 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I have an art store now because a lot of people are asking me how can we get your paintings where can we buy them I didn't have any place I wasn't selling them but then I thought well might as well people want them so I started a store kevinneelandart.com people can go there thanks buddy thanks yeah they could they could go on there and find out what they want and um and it's been fun i really and are they free for your friends um yeah i don't have any friends right i forgot no i'm you know it's it's been something i've been doing for a long time and now i um i'm kind of developing a style it's like when you start stand-up you're emulating somebody so i have you know people that i follow on instagram they're friends now who are you emulating when you were starting uh do you think well jason seiler was a comic he's actually an artist and also a comic he started doing comedy so for a long time i was picking his brain about art you know i say now does this look right to you do you think the nose is too big because i'm doing caricatures right and he gave me some suggestions right and then he got into stand-up comedy so now he's asking me stuff about stand-up and i'm not like getting enough time with the art stuff questions but it was a payback and i still have that whole text thread from a couple years ago yeah um so yeah he's he's one of them and there's a bunch of them that i follow yeah that are really really good yeah people see my artwork they go that's that's really good but i'm thinking you haven't seen the real good part oh really is it is it something that you improve yeah at as like stand up yeah yeah the more you do it like anything you get better at it yeah but i have so many things I like to do. So I do a lot of things well, but not great. You could ask me anything. If I do something, I'll say, yeah, I do that. Gardening? Fish? Can you go fishing? Fishing? Yeah, I'm not too good at it, though. But I catch a pretty good amount of fish, though. But they're not edible. Right. Because it's in the LA River. Yeah. But I play the banjo and the guitar. and I've been playing since I was 10. But no matter where I am, if somebody else has a guitar, they're better than me. Right. Yeah. And is that because your mind is just curious? You want to keep trying lots of different things? Yeah, I guess so. I like things. I like trying different things and staying entertained. In college, I heard about continuing education. And at the time, I thought, that makes sense. As you get older, you just keep learning, keep learning. I took Spanish from a woman in Mexico City for three years. learned very little because I didn't study. It wasn't her fault. I didn't study. And I would just, you know, I would take the class. And then I had other things I wanted to do that I wasn't very good at. It's hard because you're supposed to then, I did the Pimsleur thing. I was going to try and learn Italian. That's also a diet, by the way. A Pimsleur. And I was pretty good. like i was retaining some of it but then you're supposed to uh say it out loud all over and you know i live with people so like to just be like in my room manjado you know they have to hear that i know it uh that was the same with the banjo i could not play the band i had to close the doors and put a sock around the neck of the ring you know yeah so i i'm spreading myself thin but lately I'll rotate. Like I haven't picked up a guitar or a banjo in a year. Right. Because I've been editing for a while for these hikes. Right. And then I'll stop the editing and I'll go back to painting and drawing. Right. And now I want to play the piano. I got a piano. Oh, really? Yeah. Did you just get the piano? No, I've had it for like a year. I took lessons from this kid. He was like 24. Yeah. And whenever I took lessons from something, the person was always older than me that taught it yeah so you kind of had respect and you know you did your homework yeah but this kid like 24 and i'm like i'm taking phone calls you know what do you say wait here wait here i'll be back you know no i didn't i didn't practice no i didn't practice no i always felt like it would be good to learn like one song on each instrument like you know so if there's a piano at the bar and you sit down, play one song, and play another. No, not tonight. No, you guys got stuff going on. Yeah. I always wanted to be a singer-songwriter, the guitar. I used to go to all the coffee houses. I wanted to be like James Taylor or Crosby, Stills, and Nash. Right? But I was terrified to get on stage and sing. It seemed so intimate and revealing, and I didn't know if I had a good voice or not. So comedy became a lot easier to me. Yeah. Yeah. yeah it's always i i get nervous when i see comedians uh start to sing yeah you know i was sitting with don rickles you know about a year before he died at some backyard party david steinberg and he just didn't understand the comics now oh really what is I mean, what makes it funny? What is it? I said, Don, I don't know. Is this mold on here? What? Is this mold? No. What are you talking about? Oh, I thought it was green for a minute. What if it had mold all over it? That would be terrible. I mean, there might be hair in it, but I don't think there's going to be mold. Honey, I found the car keys. Do you cook? I do cook. Do you have that skill? You know what? My skill was breakfast. I'm like a great breakfast guy for my son. Oh, yeah. Because my mother always made us hot breakfasts growing up. There's five of us. Wow. And so. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Connecticut and Germany. I love getting up and making breakfast. Before he even gets up, I'll be making pancakes. Yeah. French toast. Oatmeal is my specialty. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I mean, that's what I love. How do you make your oatmeal? I'm not telling you. two-inch long down the middle, put it in as it's cooking so that that boils up nicely. Nice. Yep. And then I'll also chop up apples, put those in the bowl, a couple of them into the oatmeal, soft a little bit. Little pieces? Yeah, a little like diced. And then raisins, of course. Of course. And then sliced almonds. Ooh. Yeah, almonds, raisins. And this is all as it's cooking. Yeah, as it's cooking, then I fill the bowl up. Not fill the bowl up, but I put some in the bowl, get it ready. And then when the oatmeal is done cooking, I pour it into the bowl. Not too loose. They're not too thick. And then I'll take some cinnamon. I'll just sprinkle a little cinnamon on there. And it's sweet enough. And if I have blueberries, I'll put the blueberries in as it's cooking. So it turns a little bluish. Oh, nice. I've been big on blueberries lately. You have been? Yeah. I just found a coffee, Verve coffee, that has a blueberry note to it. What does that sound like? It's a sad fruit. Yeah, anything blueberry. How do they know that blueberries and avocados are like the most healthy for you? Yeah, I don't know. But they always change it. Yeah, they do. You go like avocado crazy, and then they're like, no, we kind of missed that one. Ice cream. Right. Yeah. Chocolate chip ice cream. I never thought of doing all the additives while it's cooking. I always just throw it in after. Well, I don't throw it all in there. I throw a lot of it in the bowl, just raw, the raw state. Right. But I do like to throw the bananas and blueberries into the oatmeal as it's cooking. And sometimes I'll let it just sit there. I'll turn the stove off and I'll put the top on. I'll let it sit there. Can I get a little clumpy? I'm going to tell you my fast oatmeal just to see how angry you get. I've got to do the radio show or whatever. I don't have much time And then I'm going to tell you how I microwave bread And I'll take I'll take that same oatmeal A little water A little paper towel over it Put it in the microwave for a minute 30 Microwave it, take it out Take a scoop of peanut butter Melt it in that hot oatmeal Pour a little almond milk on it Throw some blueberries on it Done And do you eat it? And I eat it It's not as soft. That's a protein kind of a quick thing. Yeah. I understand that. I understand that if you're in a hurry. Yeah. I get up an extra hour early to do it right. To do the right. Yeah. That's how I did the bread. I got up. I turned the oven on at seven for you this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What are you watching now on TV? What am I watching? I watch Pluribus. Yes. I forgot I was watching that. I did. It's over now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I watched that. I was very proud of myself because I don't get to the ends of things. I watch like two or three episodes and then I lose track or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fall asleep. Yeah, but I watched all of Pluribus. Good for you. And that was good. And then I watched The Chair Company. Don't know that one. You don't know that one? Isn't that amazing? Like there was a time where you could say, oh, I watch Friends. I watch Cheers. And that's all, you know. But now people say, oh, I watched The Chair Company. What? Yeah. What's that? What platform is that on? That's on the Scooby-Doo platform. Yeah. When a TV show would have like a bad night would be like 30 million views. It'd be like, oof. No one really watched it. No. Only 30 million people. My wife and I are executive producing a documentary that you've got to see. It's on Apple TV. No. It's called Come See Me in the Good Light. It won the Sundance Film Festival. We're just two of the executive producers on it. Wait a minute. The Tig one? Yeah. Holy cow. I didn't know you made that. Well, we didn't make it, but we're two of the – Tig says she made it. We're like – we're just the executive producers, and there's a lot of executive producers on it. But Tig – yeah, Tig was the one who came up with the idea for it, and it's a love story about – It's beautiful. These two poets in Colorado. One of them is a poet laureate, and she's diagnosed with terminal cancer. But it's not one of those stories about cancer and sad. It's got some parts that are sad, but it's surprisingly very funny. it's very funny it's fantastic you saw it oh yeah oh sweet yeah no i had uh tig on when it was first when you guys were first completed yeah and uh what was her name again the poet i apologize andrea gibson andrea gibson yeah god and their partner uh megafally man oh man that film is great it's so good and her poetry is so good oh so moving and her courage during the whole thing was just when you watch that you kind of recalibrate your whole life yeah what's important and you really appreciate having who knows how much time left yeah you know instead of just three weeks you know it was really really powerful yeah i hope a lot of people see it i hope they're not scared away by the subject matter like you know because it's not a story about a cancer yeah challenging that's on apple right yeah yeah apple tv how did you did you know her i've known tig for a long time i didn't know andrea gibson but my wife did my wife was a big fan my wife reads a lot yeah she has stacks of books on her nightstands wow and she was familiar with her poetry she was and you know we were in larchmont village sus and i and my son gable um just walking around and then tig comes down the sidewalk on the phone we see her she sees us we're friends we start talking what's up she goes oh i'm trying to raise money for a documentary about andrea gibson and susan like what we'll invest you know i don't know who she was yeah so we did and that's how we got on board yeah man it was uh it was really fantastic good music too sarah borales um has a great song there at the end called um salt then sour then sweet and um brandy carlisle has a song in there too and also duet with um sarah borales and they're also executive producers it was so good it really is like it's fantastic yeah it really come see me in the good life powerful and uh you won sundance yeah amazing that is powerful and uh it won a lot of festivals yeah i wonder if it'll be up for other awards find out on thursday for real thursday morning oh good mojo yeah that would be fantastic i can't believe you uh executive produced that that is one of the well i was one of the people yeah but we'll give you credit all right i mean we gave tig credit probably when was that september well she deserves the credit because she she really uh initiated the whole idea of it uh-huh uh we did you like when she got up on stage and did the poetry near the end yeah oh my god spoken word oh man oh that was like rocky god it was so powerful yeah he had chills yeah she was so good uh we do a thing on this program called an uncomfortable moment you'd say you do your own editing is about you and your hiking show and you you kind of profess that you are like a real hiker and you really like hike and stuff but we found this i never said i never professed that i was one is uh are you using a cart that we're not aware of that's right yeah well you know i use the term hiking uh loosely that's such a great ai photo by the way everyone thinks these are ai generated so weird it is it's crazy how you don't even know now what's ai i know those animals attacking each other i think man is that possible i got burned i got burned the other day i was posting um all these horrible ice videos yeah on instagram you know these horrible guys just dragging these poor women and stuff out and so i've just been posting them because I don't post a lot of political stuff, but this is so beyond anything political. It's just as human beings and Americans, it's so anti all of us. So anyway, I've been posting those. And then I posted one and my daughter called and she's 23. So she knows things. And she's like that one about the bishop yelling at the ice guys to get out of the church. It was AI. No. I was like, what? Really? You can tell because there's no ice written on the back of their – they're just in all black. Well, who cares? That's what I said. Who gives a shit? They lie all the time. They make it seem like everything they're doing is above board. So I was like, yeah, I'm sure it happened anyway. I'm sure some priest was yelling at it. All the cardinals came out against – Greenland, right? Yeah. God, they're just making everything worse. Why? Why, Kevin? Tom, when I go home, can I slice this bread and make like a – what kind of sandwich would be great for that bread? Oh, boy. Can I make grilled cheese on that? Uh-huh. That is a great one. Peanut butter and jelly? Peanut butter and jelly, yeah. It's not really giving it the respect it deserves. Well, the crust is – peanut butter and jelly I find is like a soft – Yeah, you're right. You know what I mean? The inside is good, but the crust is – you know, it's a really good one that we did. It's going to sound weird, but cottage cheese with blueberries and honey. Excuse me. I'm sorry. That was Kevin Nealon. Well, let me – Here's another – I'll give you another one. Let me just think about this for a minute. Cottage cheese, blueberry, and honey. I know. It sounds weird. No, I get that. I love cottage cheese with sliced peaches from a can because my mother used to have that all the time. Oh, then come on. Yeah, our moms, it was a big diet food. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Then you would like it. A really good thing to do is slice it and do a toast or do an open-faced kind of sandwich. With an avocado toast, fried egg. Yeah, that's going to be in the skillet tomorrow. That's going to be good. If you're adventurous, one of my favorites. Take it on a trip. Put it in your pants. Take it on the plane. Slice it. Cream cheese. Oh, yeah. Sardines. Interesting. Capers. Olive oil. Interesting. You want to get really gross? Yeah. But delicious? Sure. Take soft butter. Leave it out. Soft butter. Chop up garlic. Chop up anchovies. Mix it with some salt into the butter. Put it in the fridge. Overnight. Raw garlic. Chopped up really fine. Same with the anchovies. Get up in the morning, take it out, let it soften, slice it, toast it, slather it with that. It's called the gentleman's breakfast. Little scrambled eggs on the side. Will you send me that recipe? It's so good. You can't have meetings or see people, but it's fantastic. If they find out that garlic is not healthy for you eventually. I'm going to be angry because I had to put up with so many people smelling like garlic. Their whole body is permeated with it. I know. You know? Yeah. It's really strong. I don't know. How do you live long if you're lonely and no one's talking to you? Yeah. Depression sets in. I know. You don't go out and do stuff. Hey, everybody. Big news. The Netflix is a joke festival. The biggest comedy festival in the world is kicking off in May. May 4th, I think, is the first day, and it runs for one week, and it's got all the biggest comedians in the world coming and performing. Yours truly has a show at the Ebell Theater on May 5th, Cinco de Mayo. I will be doing my solo show, and you guys are all invited. If you can come, go to TomPapa.com and get tickets there. We want to make a big splash, and there's a lot of other shows, so I want to get the word out as quickly as possible so you guys don't end up going to see some other lame comedians because that'd be horrible. So now you know on May 5th, you can come see me at the Ebell Theater. Go to TomPapa.com. Go through that link. That's probably the easiest way to do it. I'm also going to be performing with the Dodgers. They have a big event, I think, on the next night, and then a bunch of other stuff I'm going to do for What a Joke. for the radio show and a bunch of other things. We'll keep you posted on that, but I just want to let you know about the big show, May 5th, Cinco de Mayo. Go to TomPapa.com. Hey, kids, if you like our podcast and are obsessed with food, I have another podcast for you called The Sporkful. It hosted by Dan Pashman who also the inventor of a new pasta shape called Cascatelli Very cool guy He was on my radio show once when he was first introducing his pasta and I got to hang out with him and do the sporkful. It's a fun podcast about food where you learn about people through talking about food. Similar to this, I guess. Check out his three-part series, Tracking Down an Iconic Sandwich in Aleppo, Syria, or his story about a new hot dog vendor fighting to protect his turf. Dan also digs into what it takes to make the perfect ice cream sandwich and whether or not carbs are better for you in Europe. It's a fun guy, fun podcast. Check out the episode that we did together in New York when I went on The Sporkful where we talked about me, mostly. It's probably the best one they've ever done. uh the sportful it's not for foodies it's for eaters get the sportful wherever you get your podcasts and now back to the show can i ask you a question yeah you already have have you seen a ghost have you ever seen a ghost i might have you don't want to talk about it i mean it's it's transparent so i don't know if let me tell you something about ghosts uh-huh we own a house now that used to belong to our grandparents. It's over 300 years old in Maine. It's on the coast. It's in Kittery, Maine. Do you rent? And it used to be a stagecoach stop. Wow. So it still has the doors with the room numbers on it. And cool. The living room used to be the saloon. And they would have stairs coming up into the front door. That's no longer the front door. And each room had a water closet, which meant that there was a well. That's where they got their water. right bring it up from there uh-huh and as legend has it one night there was a uh a night fight in the saloon and one of the barmaids tried to break it up and they stabbed her and she died and they threw her body down the water closet in room seven no so my grandma i mean my mother used to sit in a rocking chair every full moon and wait for her to come up she wanted some of that really yeah so So that house, it's got to be haunted, although I've never seen anything, and I don't believe in ghosts. How big is it? It's three stories. It's probably, I don't know, it's hard to judge square feet size, but maybe 6,000 square feet. Jeez. Seven. Sounds cool. It's pretty big. Yeah, it's big. Do you spend a lot of time there? Not really. I mean, we would go up in the summers and spend time there. and we lived on the East Coast. I'd spend more time there. Yeah. But it's got a lot of memories for us. Not one ghost sighting? No. My sister has experienced that, though. She'd be sleeping and feel like a weight on her chest, like a ghost was sitting on her. Why would a ghost do that? I don't know. That's a fun ghost. I was wondering, why are ghosts dressed? They have clothes on, right? I mean, I'm sure that's been brought up before. Yeah. And why not change their clothes? Yeah. Why not update it to the – we did have the Tasker family, a couple, an older couple who lived in the front apartment, in apartment four. This is more of a studio apartment. And they don't have card games. I don't know, maybe once every two days. Yeah. They play bridge or whatever. And they left the door open one night to the hallway. And they heard a creaking. The door opened up. And they said this. And she's a psychic, the woman, Mrs. Tasker. She's a psychic. And this woman came in dressed like an 18th century garb and looking very kind of sad. You know, kind of floated in. And Mrs. Tasker says, no, no, you have to leave. So then she just floated back out. More sad. Oh, even more sad. Why not let her stay? she's a sad ghost it's terrible so what about you do you believe in ghosts I do believe in ghosts why I feel it a lot you feel it on your chest I've had them sit on me before I saw a ghost our camera took a picture of a ghost in our in my office I had one of those Nest cameras. And it was I was on the road. I was in Colorado doing a show and it went off. It was the first time I ever had one there. And I was like, oh, it alerted me on my phone. There's something in my office and I looked and it was my dog. And I was like, oh, that would be a cool movie if we if like you're on the road and then the camera alerts you and there's just a guy looking back in it like that'd be a good opening to a horror movie and the rest of the movie is a problem yeah the rest of the movie I didn't figure out so it took a picture so when it sent it back it wasn't my dog this was it no way the only one home was my wife and uh that's on like the second floor there's no like there's no way that there's a shadow from the outside or anything doesn't that look like a guy in a trench coat yeah with a gun yeah i don't know there's got to be some kind of a shadow from something there's not there's something there's always an explanation there's not Yeah, the explanation is that we caught a ghost on camera. You might have to pixelate his face until you get permission to use this. This is before AI. I was in Savannah about a year ago. This place called the Pink House, I think it was. It's supposed to be haunted. It's a restaurant. Down in the bar, they have a picture from, I don't know, the 70s. Yeah. And nobody has to say anything. You see the person there. It's like a, it's a soldier. It's like a Confederate soldier in the room at the bar, like at the end of the bar. Uh-huh. And you look at it and you go, that sure does look like a Confederate soldier at the end of the bar, you know, with the jacket on and that hat. Uh-huh. In a photo? Yeah. Yeah. You catch them sometimes. But I've become very skeptical about things. You have? My father's an engineer. Uh-huh. So he, you know, everything had a reason for it and everything, you know. So I just, I'll believe it if I see it or if I don't see it. But everything has a reason up to a point and then nobody can explain it after a certain point. It's like religion. Yeah. You just, if you want to believe it, you believe it. If it helps your life, makes you more excited that there's ghosts. Can I ask you a question? Yes. When you think about me, do you think too handsome or too skinny? I think too bad. I think too bad this guy didn't have just a little more talent. No, I think my son looked up. My son goes on the chat GBT. You know what question he asked him? What? Is Kevin Nealon handsome? And what did it say? I'd say yes. It says, not in a movie star kind of way. But because of his personality and blah, blah, blah, makes him handsomer. No. It didn't say I was not handsome. It just said not in a movie star kind of way. You should do yours and see what they say. That's fine. All right, I'll do it. Yeah. I don't think that – I think you're a handsome man. It's lighting again. In the comedian landscape. In the comedian landscape. Oh, yeah, with other comedians. Right. Yeah, I would say that – Who do you think is the cutest male comic out there? My friend has a relationship with the woman on ChatGBT. Created a character. Oh, really? It has a... Talks to him. Oh, really? How was your day today? She knows all his likes and dislikes. Hey, did you get to that meeting today? How did that go? Oh, jeez. Is Tom Papa, the comedian Tom Papa, handsome? Well, beauty's in the eye of the beholder, right? I'd say Tom Papa's got that warm, friendly vibe that a lot of people find charming. Plus, confidence and humor usually add a lot of appeal. That sounds like a no. Not at all. I'm just saying that looks are subjective. He's beating around the bush on that one. Yeah. Hey, put in Brad Pitt. Oh, yeah. It's Brad Pitt handsome. That's a good one. Okay. Is Brad Pitt handsome? Totally. Brad Pitt's often considered classically handsome by the way. Damn it. We got to work for it, Kevin. We have to do extra. Humor trumps all of that. It does, right? Mel Brooks with Anne Bancroft, right? Yeah, right? the funniest guy without funny that face doesn't end up with Ann Bancroft that happens a lot speaking of Mel Brooks I had the most amazing experience I was friends with Norman Lear for the last few years of his life and what a treat that was what a great guy and of course he's friends with all those old timers Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner Dick Van Dyke so he invites me to a lunch at his house in the backyard And I show up and Jonah Hill's there. It's me and Jonah Hill. And sitting across from us, Mel Brooks, Dick Van Dyke, Norman Lear, and Warren Beatty. Jeez. And they each had their own assistants with them. And we just, Jonah Hill and I, we just sat there with our mouths open and dropped. Yeah. And we just ask Mel Brooks talks a lot, so I have to interrupt him. I got to shut him down. But Dick Van Dyke, he's like so together, you know, on top of things. And Warren Beatty, you know, looked okay. He's older. Yeah. Yeah. That was such an experience. That's epic. When we're leaving, Jonah Hill's driving on the driveway and I flag him down. I go, what just happened? He goes, I know it, man. But what a great experience to have that. Yeah. you know that's crazy i got to go to carl reiner's house once and interview him in his uh office yeah he was like 92 and he was working on his book he's got a lot of books he worked on every year what now i'm 94 yeah i'm 97 and he was at his desk he's like this is where i wrote dick van dyke yeah i would write here and i'd look out and there was a neighbor and she would sit by the pool and when I would get tired, I would just look out. And then I'd come back and he wrote all by himself. I know it. I think he wrote those out on Fire Island, too. Fire Island. Yeah. That's where he went a lot. Back then, that was like a big, kind of an artsy place. Right. Do you feel like we missed out? Shouldn't we be going to some artsy place and be like, oh, all our peers are working on stuff? um i don't know are there any places like that no i'm not invited santa barbara maybe no yeah no nobody everybody just stays home yeah everyone does their own thing yeah i used to go to saint bart's a lot when i was on snl it's an island off in the caribbean yeah that was like the place you know everybody would go there there'd be models and actors and right i would go with the snl group lauren michaels would go there well right and that was kind of like that was kind of like one of those escape places and i don't know if people would write or anything out there but yeah when you're scrolling through uh you know a form where you have to put your age in there and you know they have the night it starts like at the top like 2026 yeah and then you gotta keep scrolling down i know my daughter who's 20 was like oh i I can't believe how far I have to go now to get my age. I'm like, oh, keep going, baby. Carol Leifert had a good joke. She goes, it takes forever to get my hand. I'm scrolling, scrolling, Civil War, you know, Roman Empire. She was at Largo the other night. We were doing Patton's show. And she's so solid. Carol. Just great jokes. See, this is what I like. I like the people where it's joke forward, like yourself. jokes, but also kind of a point of view, something to say. When I first started, they said, you got to have something to say. I thought, yeah, I'm going to say the joke. That's what I'm going to say. But now I get it. You got to have an opinion on things. But I still don't really have an opinion. I just do kind of dark, kind of absurd things. Yeah, which is so great. But that kind of forms you saying something. But I don't think it's as relatable as somebody who's talking about families. and school or whatever. Yeah, but not everybody wants to hear that. Then you have people who just want to see someone who's really great at their craft, make them laugh, and then it's a different thing. You know what I always find amusing, I guess, or interesting, is I go to these clubs and I'm looking at these people who I've never met before and they've had their whole lives lived out. and I never even knew it. I never knew when they were happy or laughing or going on trips together that they even existed. And now here I am looking at these people. Yeah, it's weird. It's amazing. But they know who you are. Yeah, just having a whole existence in this town that you never even thought of until you got there. And so many people will be alive when you're alive and you'll never know them. Yeah, it's very bizarre. And you'll both die and you'll see each other in heaven. And you go, wait a minute, you were on Earth? I didn't see you on Earth. Where were you? And then you just wander around and try and get into people's card games. Yeah, yeah. It's like with soulmates. I'm really skeptical about that whole notion of, is he your soulmate? Yeah, he is my soulmate. What is the likelihood of this guy being your soulmate out of the billions of people in the world? You happen to be your soulmate at Taco Bell on Friday. but to your point, it might be because you don't get to meet all those billions of people. Like you said, it's like you only get thrown in front of these certain people. I know, but I'm talking about the person who would be perfect for you. Right. You can call this person your soulmate, but it's probably not the person who would be best for you in the world. Right. That you would really be excited about, but you settle for that person and you call it your soulmate. because we only meet the people in our area right right and it's like when you grow up yeah like i see some people that are with partners that i don't think are that attractive right but wherever they grew up there must have been not a lot of choices so they probably looked and thought yeah she's the prettiest one out of all this and that's my standard right there i'm gonna say that that's pretty that's my level and then you get married and go on vacation and you're like whoa there's more attractive people out here yeah yeah here in tennessee yeah i like this it's so funny when does the special come out it comes out january 27th january 27th 800 pound gorilla platform that's youtube on youtube and um yeah and the art store is kevinneelandart.com beautiful and the movie is come see me in the good light apple tv so good so great wow thursday that would be cool yeah i don't even want to say out loud what we're waiting for but that would be really cool and the songs too when will this be on uh this will be on shortly i would say february 10th so it'll have been out and now it's starting to roll yeah we should do a version um since the oscars nominations have come out already hey congratulations on the oscar nomination yeah i congratulate are you gonna get to go to the oscars i know your film got nominated right yeah i don't know there's a lot of executive producers i don't know what the limit is but uh just being nominated is enough for me you know have you ever been nominated i was nominated for an emmy yeah i think and i think we won an snl nice for writing i was a writer at the time did you get to go on stage you know what i'm not a big fan of award shows i don't even remember if i went on stage or not do you have an emmy in your house i have a certificate oh so maybe it's just a nomination oh um but yeah but the oscar thing was really exciting let's do a version of that you've won the oscar okay what's it like just waking up in the morning and seeing that statue. Tom, I can't believe it. Executive producers are not supposed to get a statue. Yeah. But I got the statue. Oh, man. Most people just get a certificate. It's just so exciting. You know, I mean, just to be, you know, of course, we all know the Oscars, the Academy. Yeah. And just to have this film, this documentary be acknowledged like that and then to win. Yeah. Well, no, this is on before that. just to be acknowledged like that. It's really amazing. It's amazing. It's fulfilling and so rewarding. Yeah. And it makes me feel like I could do it again. I was going to say it's so great that you finally got recognized for something that you've done. For something I didn't do. Something I invested in. Right. But I believed in it. What guests can we look forward to on hiking? Hiking with Kevin? Well, I have Tiffany Haddish coming up. Nice. Rick Glassman. Nice. I have – has anyone done it twice? Oscar Nunes. I have Tiffany Haddish coming up, Rick Glassman, Oscar Nunes. Oh, they've all done it twice. Some people have done it twice. No, no. Tiffany Haddish has done it like three times. Oh. um three times kona's done it like two or three times wow dana's done it twice dana carvey nice um yeah most people just what makes one what makes someone just do it once fear disappointment regret watching you try and get the drone to work yeah yeah no one time it's just I mean, that's pretty much what I do is one time with everybody. And then sometimes I won't have anybody to hike with. So I'll just, hey, you want to do this again? Or they'll say, I want to do it. Hey, I want to do this again. I say, okay, how's next Friday? I'm not particular. Yeah. Well, congratulations again on all the awards. Thank you. On the special, on the Oscar, on all of it. Yeah, the art show. Yeah, the art show. The Art Shop, KevinNealandArt.com. And let me know what you end up doing with the bread. Oh, I know what I'm going to do with it. All right, that's enough. I'm going to make croutons out of it. That's a good thing to do, actually. I'm going to dice it up. Oh, they soak up the vinegar. That is good bread, man.