Goals, Growth, and When It’s Okay to Fail | Sadie Robertson Huff & Korie Robertson

Hey friends, okay y'all this episode was so good but I misspoke about something like ten times. So I had to come on here and let y'all know I'm actually doing the Bible recap plan with Terri Lee Cobble through the Bible app which I'm so excited about for this year but I kept calling it the Bible project with Terri Lee Cobble which are two different things. I love the Bible project. I've done so many things from the Bible project but this year as my New Year's resolution I'm going to be going through the Bible recap with Terri Lee. I'm so excited about it. It's been so good so far. So if you hear me makes up the two just ignore me. I have mom brain and we'll get through this together. Love you guys. Hope you enjoy the episode. What is up everybody? Happy New Year. This is so exciting. The first well that's great episode of 2026. I'm so thankful that you're here whether this is your very first time to listen or you've been kicking alongside me for about seven and a half years. Super thankful to step into a new year of pie casting and today we're going to have a lot of fun because we have everyone's favorite guests on the pie cast. No offense to Christian. We have my mom welcome K-Swag back to the pie cast. I'm so honored to be here for the first episode of the New Year. And also seven and a half years. That's amazing. So proud of you. So proud of you. Thank you. I remember when you were in high school talking about things like this like pie cast blogs and it was kind of like the start of all those things like you know YouTube pages or whatever. And I remember saying like I think the people that succeed in that are the ones who just stay in it. He don't quit. He just don't quit. And look at you. It's true. You just stuck with it. You just kept going doing it. We kept going to be a week after week after week after week and so many people have been blessed by it and we've all been blessed by it and learned so much. So well done. Thank you. Thank you. It was cool. We were in LA this past year at Disney's for the Stars. We ran into Alona Mar and her sisters and they just started a podcast. So I was like oh so you'll start a pie cast. Congrats. And they're like yeah, it's awesome. And I said I've been doing a pie cast too and they were like oh what's it called? Oh that's good. Oh that's so cool. I'll check it out. And I said, my ad is like the best I think especially in today's day and age where there's so much short form content. So great to just have conversations with people. I learned so much from them and they were like when did you start yours? I was like oh about seven and a half years ago and she was like what? You like the first podcast ever? I was like no but I was earlier on the now like the wave. I feel like everybody has a podcast. That was definitely not the case seven and a half years ago. But I think you're right. There is something to like longevity and it's really cool. So many new listeners are like where do I start? Like do I start at the beginning? Like I do want to help categorize that for people. That's one of my goals this year to help categorize our pie cast for new listeners because I don't necessarily think I'd say start from the beginning. We've grown a lot. I've grown a lot. And like if you want the perspective of a you know 22 year old then start at the beginning as I was navigating. That's the thing is like you were learning and that's what the whole podcast was set up to be. It was just to get advice from people and learn from people and I think that that's the best podcasters to me. Actually we were talking about another podcaster the other day and you were saying how he didn't really say very much. He just kind of like throughout a question and let the other people talk. And I said I think the best podcasters are those that are genuinely learning. You're genuinely curious. Generally like want to hear from whoever you're sitting down with. And so I think that was what made it special. It's true. I've learned so much. I don't know where I would be without getting to sit in the seat and listening and learn so much. It's actually funny to think about that so much of my growth in life has happened while other people are listening. And sometimes learning on a podcast is a beautiful thing. Most times it's a beautiful thing. But sometimes I do get stumped in it because I'll be just fully listening. And I'm like, oh I'm interviewing. Like yeah. Because I am a podcast listener. So I'm listening to our guests. I'm just all in. I'm like, think how it relates to my life and some things I want to implement after this conversation. And then I'm like, oh my turn to talk. Okay. Next question. Yeah. But I think from the beginning I used to have questions, you know, set out. And now I do a lot of studying, but I just know the kind of conversation I want to have. The overall direction I want to go when I'm searching for, but not necessarily as many. Like, this is what I'm going to ask you. This is because I've learned like sometimes the conversation goes to places that you didn't expect. And when you're like trying to drive it and like trying to get it back to where you kind of miss out on where maybe it was going to go. Yeah. Where it was get a lead. So I've learned a lot and I'm thankful for it. Well, I think people should go back and listen. And I think that's a great. I think we need to do that this year is categorize it all. So that way people can find like if you want to find something that's talking about anxiety or whatever or fear or, you know, what marriage or relationships or whatever, you can actually go find that's because there is so much wisdom. Yes. They're really is. It's crazy. And so many amazing guests are first guests. Those Bob Goff. Like super awesome. I was super awesome. And so fun. I did not realize. And I used to only do like 20 minute long episodes and then at the end of the episode I would call you. And we'd remember it. It was the good and bad advice segment. And I'd be like, that's hilarious. This is what someone said in Instagram. This is good advice or bad advice. And there was some will that's bad. And there's some good and funny. It was kind of a nod to like learning how to discern when something like sounds go but it might not be true. So there's some gyms back in the day. I forgot about that. You were living in Nashville. So you would call me in randomly. Like I didn't know when you were going to call and you were recording. Yeah. So it's changed so much in the best way. Glad to have a studio now. I used to like record wherever, whenever. I had my little microphone, a little. Oh, what was it called? Now Karen Road is called. It's like a box that had everything I needed. Mixed. Yes. That was awesome. Mixed me three. And I'd take that everywhere. And it's been such a fun journey. This today on this podcast, we're going to talk about a new year, new start, resolutions, word for the year. We're going to talk about what we've learned from last year, what we're taking with us, what we're leaving behind. We have a lot of things to talk about. Do you have anything mom on just starting a new year? Why do we set goals? If so often we don't keep them. Why should we set intention? Why is this kind of conversation important at the start of the year? Well, today you really prompted me because of having this on my calendar to like think about this a lot. And so this morning I woke up and it was just like so in my brain. And I pulled out like all my old. That is so funny. That you did that. I wonder about. These are like my calendar books from the last like four years. I'll say you're going to have to link that because those are cute. These are good ones. Actually this is a really good one. I keep ordering this one. So anyway, one of the things that I was thinking about in it is I've always loved the new year. I think I've always felt like it's important to set a goal for the year. Once like the word for the year became like a thing. I was like, oh, this is so fun. This is great. I think it's important to kind of like have a restart. I mean, you can always restart. You can restart midway through the year, whatever. But it kind of just sets your mind because you're starting a new year. Like what are you leaving behind in the path? What path? What are you taking forward? All these things I think are great for a new year. And one of the things that I started doing probably five or six years ago because I was never a really good like, I love to set them. But like riding them down in a place that I could go back and look and keep them and know whether I follow through with them and all that. I would ride them on some random piece of paper or ride them on whatever. Then it'd get thrown away or set aside or put in a box somewhere. And then I never went back to it. So several years ago, I started doing it actually in my yearly calendar and riding down. And so every year what I do is I'll write down my mission statement. So several years ago, I went to like, I peed Richardson. He does this whole life planning. He's been on the podcast. He's fantastic listening. Right. Let me go listen to you. Yes. And so helps you kind of formulate your own personal mission statement. So if you don't have that, that's something that you can, you could do. And so each year, I kind of like rewrite that. I write down, I have a little things of like what I love. And it's just like what I love. And it's just like notes like what I love and a deeper sense or what I love. I love, I love, um, no, like I love to be creative and build it. I know like I love to build because you do love and chess. I do. I love aqua four. But um, um, it says, but anyway, I do. I write things like that or then I write things like life. Maybe, maybe we'll do this one day in life. It's just like these, these things that I write every year and every year, I just move them to the next calendar. I didn't even know you did that. You didn't know. I literally didn't know you did that. So here it is. Whoa. So each year, I rewrite this in my next calendar. And then I can assess. I can be like, okay, did I actually do that this year? Did I live that? What are the things that I can check off? I'm like, oh, I did that life dream. I can check that off and inspired or whatever. Then I'll write like a mission for mission statement for like my work and for my business for the next year. So each year, I just kind of like a lot of it is just recopying, recopying whatever I've read the year before. And then I start the nice go into kind of goals for that year. So it's like, what's my word for the year? What are some specific goals that I can set? And the goal thing is like, you don't always hit all of them. Yeah. And I think that is where people get like tripped up. It's like they're like, oh, actually, this I read this. Most people quit their goals by January 8th. Ooh, another off. Eight days. Eight days. You're only eight days in and you're already quitting. So it's like, don't set it like, oh, I quit it and I don't quit. I go back. It's just an intention. It's just like an idea of like what you want to do. There's one that I kind of move every year and it's learning, learn a song on the piano. I still haven't done it. But it's there. It's there. And I'm moving it to this year. And maybe this will be the year that I do that. Sorry. Okay, friends, growing up in Louisiana, seafood is just a part of who we are. I've always loved it. I love the flavor, tradition, and especially the memories that come with it. But sometimes finding seafood that's truly high quality and sustainably source can be really tough. 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Still have never done a pull up in my life. Still would love to do a pull up one day in life. But what I did do is I started working out a lot more that year. And I literally got a trainer. I worked all those muscles to learn how to do a pull up. And I never was able to do it. But I got so much stronger. And that's the intention, you know, intention. It's not about doing the pull up. You know, it's about getting stronger. Yes. And so maybe one day with unders. Remember the year that my goal was to stretch every day. Oh, that was last year. Was that last year? I was last year. I didn't do it. And Christian in London, that was February. So we were one month into the year last year. And already. And you were struggling to stretch. And Christian was like, he was being so good trying to help me and like, remind me. And I still didn't do it. He's the best goal center and sticking to it person. I know. Yeah. Like if he says he's going to do it, he's doing it. He's so disciplined. Yeah. And it's very inspiring. But every year, I almost have discipline from my word. And then I'm like, no, really? I'm just disciplined from my word and then I back out every year. I think I probably should choose discipline from my word because that's the thing that I'm the least good at. That's funny. And then every year, I'm like, but yeah, I don't really want to do that. Okay. Speaking to that though, I think this is another like concept to why these conversations are important is that they do provide accountability. Like when you set it down, you set an intention. It makes you accountable. And that's why you don't want to choose discipline for your word because then you'd be accountable to following it. Exactly. And so there's like beauty in that. And then there's also so much challenge in that. And so I think that's what some people, well, I don't want to do it because then if I say I'm going to do it, I don't do it, then I failed or I would be embarrassed. And I think you got to like stop that way of thinking and just say, it's not a fail if you don't do it. It's not embarrassing. Like this is your challenge to yourself to become better. And if people start laughing, it's like the man in the arena, like, hey, you get in the arena. And then you can talk. That's so good. One thing I think our family is good at is failure. And like I think we're okay with it. Like we're okay with like having an idea and it not happening. And we just kind of move on. And I think that's a positive in a way, you know, it's not because we can take a risk and try something and say like, okay, this year I'm going to try this. And I don't do it. I'm like, okay, I'll leave it to next year. Maybe I will next year. Or maybe it was not a good idea in the first place, you know, speaking of, let's give a real life example. So dad, you know, he's known as Willie Robertson, Boss Haugh. He's known as a successful businessman. He has literally traveled to several schools in top business classes. He is a good businessman. But let's go back to dad making a nine on the ACT. He struggled through college and majored in physical education, doesn't do anything like that. Right. How many other jobs did he think he was going to be a professional boulder? Oh my gosh. Through our 20s, I cannot tell you the amount of ideas that he had or the things that he was going to do. He wanted to be a DJ at one point. He had an idea to like travel and like do this DJ. I don't even know. Professional boulder, professional scrabble player, personal golfer. He tried to get on the basketball team in college and the coach was like, no. So yeah, he tries a lot of things. And he still does stuff like that. He still tries so many things, which I think is so good. Like each year, he's not just saying, oh, I've reached success and that's it. It's like, no, there's so much that I had in me that I want to try and a lot of those things feel but some hit. And so it's not, you're not a failure whenever certain things didn't work out the way that you thought it was going to go. You learn something from it. And now he's really good at bowling. He's really good at scrabble. He's really good at golf. He's really good at all these things. He thought he would be like a professional in. Now he has skill sets for. So when you set something out for the new year, that might not be the thing you end up with but you have skills in that direction. Yeah. And that's something to be proud of. That's good, which also takes me back to our first conversation about like not quitting in your pie cast. So there are things that it's like there's value in staying and just continuing and just not quitting. But it doesn't mean that like it has to all reach a certain success within one year's time. It's like, okay, in 2026, if I don't do this, it can be, it's an intention you're setting. You stick with something that you love that you're passionate about and just keep going, keep going, keep going and straight maybe years. We always talk about for like, Ducdyncy happened 40 years after Phil and Vinod the Ducal. And there was a ton of years that it, most people would quit. I mean, most people, and maybe he even should have. He should have quit. Yeah, to be like, you're not even able to support your family doing this. You should go quit and just get a job or whatever. And so I think that it doesn't mean that you're failing at something. It just hasn't, hasn't come to be yet. Yeah. When did you start doing these calendars? I think like 2019. I mean, is when I started writing them, actually writing my actual intention out, I think it was probably after I saw Pete, which I'm trying to remember what year that was, that I started actually kind of like writing my mission statement down and writing down specific goals. I think writing down goals are really important. Also notes when your phone are great. I mean, I went back and saw a note on my phone about some things that I had just prayed about and said intention for years and years ago that I found recently and I'm like, whoa, yeah, all happened. Oh, came to fruition. We actually accomplished that goal that I had set. And I didn't even kind of like, I almost didn't even realize I had set it as a goal. It was just something that I kind of dreamed about or wanted. And then I was like, oh, I didn't realize I'll write that down. So I think I do think writing it down and like I said, doing it this way for me has been helpful because it's in my, I look at my calendar essentially every day. I know a lot of people just do digital calendars now, but I think I think there's value in having a calendar like this. I actually look back and read it. I actually think the digital calendar hurt us maybe whenever we started just relying on that because you can't see your month as a whole, your week as a whole, you can't see kind of your life as more of a whole. You're only seeing the day. Or like the day, yeah, which maybe there's value in that because only worry about today, but also I think seeing kind of things as a whole, like your life as a whole, your your as a whole is helpful in some ways. It's good. I like it. I'm inspired. I think I'm going to get myself one. Okay. What are some of your goals for 2026 real time? Well, this is this is real time because I haven't really totally set them. Usually I will say, I think I take January to kind of do a little like prayer and fasting and time. And so I haven't set them all, but this morning it got me like really getting serious about it since we were having this talk. And the word that keeps coming to my mind for this year is growth. And which you think that's your word for the year? That's my word for the year. This is when it's being moved to 2007. Growth is this year. I saw JP Pepluda. He put on one of those things. He was like suggested word for the year and it had like three and one of them was discipline. I was like, no. I didn't see it. It's not a sign. Growth is one that just keeps coming to mind, which I told dad and he was like, man, it's going to be tumor. And I was like, why is this problem? Why are you rooting for my word? Why are you rooting for my word? Why are you rooting for my word? I'm saying that now it makes me think of that. But anyway, he had another or he's like, or Gord or so. He just started saying like other growth, thinking of a growth on your body. But he's so bad. But that's one that I'm thinking of. Sometimes I'll try to put like a verse to go with it. And so this morning I read a verse. I thought it was like, oh, get my Bible if you know where it is. Okay. It's John 15. Oh, good idea. Sorry, not four. And so here's what's interesting about this. When I first read this verse this morning, I thought, oh, maybe that's going to be my word. And then as I died, well, yes. But actually in an obvious remain, so remain our abide. So then I'm like, oh, maybe it's going to be remain. You're going to read it in your translation. I'll read it in mind. But then as you read, listen for how growth comes in. growth comes in when you remain with God. Remain in me as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself. It must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. I am the vine. You are the branches. If you remain in me and I knew you will bear much fruit. Apart from me, you can do nothing. So I was thinking about how like, okay, this is a message of growth, a garden, a tree that is growing. It's going to be saying, if you remain in God, you'll bear fruit. You'll grow fruit if you remain in God. By remaining in him, that is how you grow. That's good. Which I was like, whoa, that's really cool because it's like, okay, so I don't know. It's remained by. I don't know. But I was just thinking about how like in God's economy, it's the opposite. Like remaining in him is how you bear fruit. That's good. So we are in another, in the world's view, it's like growth is like change and do this and go and get after it and all that. In God's economy, remaining. That's how you grow and how you bear fruit. All right, let's be honest. Buying clothes for the guys in our lives can be such a gamble. 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But what we do is we freak out about like marketing ourselves and we got to get out, we got to get out, we got to do do do do do do do do. And then like it'll be a successor, then it'll get out into the world. But she's like, go read the Bible. Like no one was marketing themselves. Like they were marked by God. I was like, that is so good. Which speaks to that, like just remaining abiding. Yeah. And I speak to that verse that we talked about. Pebble Phil always said, like, you know, you will gain the respect of the outside world if you're just working with your name and acquire it. Like it's the opposite of what writing on that note too. This is a verse that I thought this is going to start to be a life verse for me. So it's second Corinthians 12. And this is a verse that most of us know the idea of, well, I'm going to read more of the passage, but the verse that most people know, my greatest is sufficient for you. My power is made perfect in weakness. So this is a pretty popular verse. And then it gets down to for when I am weak then. Okay. Before I say what I'm about to say, what do you think this verse is for when I am weak then I am strong. He has made strong in me. Okay. So this is the funny thing. Most of us think that verse says for when I am weak, then he is strong. That's like how we remember that verse. That's what we talk about. That's what we write about. But it actually says for when I am weak, then I am strong. So Paul wrote this and he was, he didn't say for a when I am weak, he is strong. Although that is true. He said for when I am weak, then I am strong. I was thinking I was like, first of all, I am strong and then I thought, well, maybe no, it's talking about God is strong, but it's actually saying you are strong. Oh wow. Yeah. And so he breaks us down and I love this so much. He says on behalf of this man, I will boast, but on behalf of my own behalf, I will not boast except for my weakness. Though if I should wish to boast, I would not be a fool for I would be speaking the truth, but I refrain from it. So no one thinks more of me than he sees in me or hears from me. So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelation, a thorn was given to me in my flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. And he says three times, I pleaded with the Lord that he would take this away from me, but he said to me, and then this is in red letters, which is interesting because this isn't like the gospels. So it's like Jesus saying this to Paul. My grace is sufficient for you. My power is made perfect in your weakness. Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly in my weakness that the power of God may rest on me for this, for the sake of Christ, then I am content with weakness, insults, hardships, persecution and calamities for when I am weak, then I am strong. Like that is a complete opposite way of looking at like exactly. I'm not going to become conceited. Right. And some of these things, and I started thinking about this, even with the idea of like insecurity, because some of these things you think like by this point, I'm like, I should not be insecure. Like I should be like so confident reading about by this point, I should not have anxiety. Like it's kind of like the thorn in your flesh. You're like, why do I still have this? I've asked you to take this away like so many times. But I started thinking about what if that isn't like those things in you is not saying that you have a problem in your faith is actually saying that this is your opportunity for faith. So like your insecurity isn't like a problem, that a faith problem. It's not like you have a lack of faith. That's your opportunity for faith. Yeah. And so I'm going to start looking at like that this year. Like whenever I have hard things or insecurities or overthinking moments, like I'm not going to like shame myself and go, oh, why don't I have enough faith to just overcome this? This is actually an opportunity for me to have faith that God, like when I feel this week, I'm actually at my strongest state because I am dependent on you. Yeah. Cool. That's so good. And it's so true. And it's so true. And if you look about, you know, looking back, thinking as you were saying that on my life, it is those times when I'm like the most dependent on God when I'm the, I feel the weakest. Yeah. But it's the time that I know that like I'm most dependent on him. My faith is the strongest. Yeah. I'm the strongest. Yeah. I love that. And I love you and that he said, like this is to keep me from becoming conceited. Like I keep asking, he's like, no, like this is, this is where I have you. This is like you're supposed to feel that, you know, which is kind of a crazy way of thinking about it. And that his grace is sufficient for us. His power is my purpose. I love that so much. I've heard it a million times. I've read it. I've quoted it. But I don't know. I guess I've well done it more lately. Yeah. But there's a lot of richness to that. Yeah. And it's a challenge to actually think about things, obviously, than you do. Right. I actually think my word for this year and it's kind of like you. I'm pondering. I think this is my word for the year, but I haven't attached a scripture to it. Although this scripture is amazing and this is going to be something I think about this year, it doesn't necessarily go exactly with my word, but the word renew. And I'm going to read the definition of renew, not that we don't know what it means, but it's cool to read definitions. I did that this morning too. That's like, I know what this means. I'm going to read the definition. Because it pulls out just the gravity of it more. So first, resume after an interruption. These were the best interruptions of my life, but I have been having children for years. Yeah. Exactly. I'm like, resume back into life, not being pregnant or postpartum. Yeah. So that's kind of cool. And then to, okay, so then it says to give fresh life or strength to revive, to extend for a further period, the validity of or to replace something that is broken or worn out. And I think like all three of those go with so much that I really need to apply to my life. I think that there are some things when you go through life and you do go through a time of like a time period that changes you of like having children and like coming back to you and like, you're not who you used to be. You are a new person, but you have these old habits and some are good and some are bad and some you need to take with you and some you need a ditch. I think I'm kind of like processing that and feeling that. And one of the things last year, when I think about last year and this, this is kind of going into like, what do you leave behind and what are you taking with you, which will I'll ask you that next, but something that I am taking with me that I did this past year. And this is going to sound interesting because it kind of goes against what we were just saying is that I was willing to like change things that needed to change and like in big ways. Like our life changed a lot last year and I'm not going to go into all the details on this podcast, but like we made, we made a lot of moves. Like we switched things that we just needed to switch. We moved places we need to move. We just changed some things. And I think for a long time, the reason I stayed at some of those things that it ended up leaving was because of this whole message of like, you got to say, planet because when you're planted, then like, that's how, you know, that's how you begin to thrive and that's where the harvest comes. And so many messages in the church is like the importance of being planted. And I so didn't want to be the person that was like not planted or not committed because I know there's value in that. But last year, there were just some things that kind of rose to the surface that I, Christian and I both started feeling we need to make a move. Yeah. And I didn't realize how much I, like how afraid I was that people were going to think like, oh, you're wishy-washy. Like, oh, you just gave up because it was hard. And it wasn't that those things were hard. It was like, there was a lack of peace there. There was just something we knew for our family like we needed to make a shift. And I think there's like a lot of spiritual maturity and like, knowing when it is time to make a move and like, growing and discernment when it's like, okay, we need to make this move because this is going to be the best decision for our family right now. Even though like, maybe nobody else gets that and maybe no one else understands that and that's okay. But this is what we need to do for us and for our kids. I let back of the year and I'm like, I'm proud of us for making those moves because now on this side of it, I'm like, that was the best decision. Like, that was the best decision. And so I do think even a renewal and like, okay, there was some change. But like, now what does that look like for us this year, you know, stay like now. So in some seeds in this space that we're in. And so it's kind of hard to be vague. Yeah. Always say on a podcast like there's a difference in vulnerability and transparency. And like, you're not going to be super vulnerable with, you know, 100,000 people listening to this, but you, but transparency is helpful. Yeah. And I do think that in this year, I have learned that there is a time. There's sometimes a time to leave. Yeah. And there is a lot of, that is a hard thing to do. It's a hard thing to leave when you actually are used to like the value of staying. Yeah. But there's also a lot of value in leaving when it's time. Stepping into a new year always makes me feel like I want to reset a few things, especially the stuff my kids are watching. If your house is anything like our screen time happens sometimes and that's okay. Actually, the screen time can be very productive when it's something good. And that's why Mino has been such a life-serive for our family. Mino makes it easy for families to grow in their faith together. 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And so I think that I think that's there's wisdom in that. It's not that you're not staying. You have to stay at everything you've ever done. I mean, if you stayed at everything you've ever done, then you would, where would I be? You would never grow. You would never change, you know. And so true. I think that's really, that's really wise. I remember when I was probably around your age, I felt like God gave me kind of like this vision that for this and I've always remembered it and thought about it because I think that because I did see people that seem really stuck like they weren't happy in their job. They weren't happy with where they were. They weren't happy with what all these things and they complained about it a lot and they just like, but they just didn't do anything about it, you know. And I feel like God gave me this vision of just being like stuck on the side of the road in a trench. It's just like people can just get stuck in a ditch and they just don't get themselves out, you know. And it was just this visual for me of like, okay, when I get stuck in a ditch, I just want to like figure out how to get out of it, you know, do something different. Call someone to help, you know, get a call in a tow truck, like do something to get out of it rather than just staying stuck in this like rut. And sometimes it's like, you're like stuck in a actual ditch and sometimes it's like a rut that you're just like, you know what a rut is, it's like you just kind of get stuck going that direction and you can't like pull it back. And so it was just this visual for me really in much ways of like, okay, I got out of it. I don't want to be stuck in a rut that I'm just getting pulled in one direction that I don't even realize it. I don't want to be in a ditch and I'm just like complaining about it, but I'm still in this ditch, you know, like I want to be able to make change and create change and do something different whenever that's good. Whenever I think a rut is so so applicable to probably what most people feel in their 20s because you start off your 20s thinking you have a clear path for like what the next 10 years is going to look like, but then life doesn't ever go the way that you kind of think it's going to go. So you do start veering and some of that is good and some of that is bad. Like there are things that I picked up along the way that are great. And there are some of that is like, oh, that's not so great. You know that I want to kind of steer back in the right direction. And I think that's really good to like be aware of that. And I think to the change, the changes that we made last year, one of the things I think I'm trying to do well and it's interesting because like two people said this to me passionately spoke this over me. They're like, you're in a season change and they're like just encouraging. That's a good thing and that's a natural thing and just do your best to do that well because season changes are hard. Like they can be kind of harsh sometimes. You know, I feel like even when you think about natural seasons when the when it shifts like you get allergies like, yeah, it's cold. Like there are changes and some of it's really good and it's beautiful and then some of it brings some hard things and everything that we walked through last year that was changed was even though it was the right decision, it was still hard. It came with hard conversations, uncompterability, walking into new things that felt like we're here again. Like we feel like a freshman all over again. Someone says that like every four years you feel like a freshman again because that's life. Yeah, that's actually true. We've been changed to schedule. Changes to your schedule. Our schedule changes completely. Yeah. Like we had no no like schedule like up until this year then we're like, okay, we got actually live by a legit schedule. So that was new for us. Just because our family, we we've been traveling for so long and doing all these things that required like different schedule this year, we got a little more schedule. But all of that was a little bit hard, uncomfortable and different. But that didn't mean it was the wrong decision. I think that's where like people like turn back because they're like, oh, this is hard. It came about just go back to what it was. It's like, no, if you know you're supposed to change, if you know you're supposed to make a move, even if it's hard, even if it's uncomfortable, just knowing, like there's a piece in knowing you're following God, you know, there's an assurance and a confidence in knowing the following God. And so there was never a time where Christian and we're like, okay, we should have stayed because this is hard. It was like, no, every time it was like, this is hard, this is uncomfortable part, but this is where we need to be. And now we're a few months out, not even years out, months out and we're going, this is a right call. This is so good. Look at what unfolded from making those moves this past year. Super helpful. That reminds me of that in when the Israelites, when they just left Egypt and they're like, there's that point where they want to go back. That story's crazy. I love the story. This is one of my favorite parts of scripture. It's like this point where they're just like, they want to go back to slavery because it's hard. It's different. They're not, they're like, wait, but back there, but they do. At least we had something come, there was some comfort in what you know, I guess. And so they're just complaining and complaining about it. And then God actually says to them, like, stop talking, like, stop talking and keep going. Like that is literally what he says, like, stop talking, keep going. And I just love that so much because it's like, we always just like, sometimes we just keep talking to God about our complaints. And he's like, no, just keep going. I got something better for you. Just keep going. Just keep going. Stop talking. Stop talking in the most loving way. Stop talking. Exactly. It's so true because then you look back and you're like, yeah, you really did have a plan. So that was great. Thank you. Yeah. Exactly. Sorry about all of the delas. I'm going to mess it up. Yeah, sorry about the del. Hey, when I'm weak, I'm strong. Yeah. That's good. Yeah, so that's something that I am taking with me from my share. And I think leaving behind a lot of times when you take with you, kind of leave behind like the opposite of thing you take with you, but kind of that like passivity of like just staying, just being like, you know, not like, I want to be willing to go where God's get us to go and willing to have hard conversations. And I think even to this past year, I realized like even our friends, like through our friend group, we went through like a lot of really hard things and yeah, really deeply hard things. I just like, we all just kept showing up for each other and in like the really, really raw moments where it was like, you'd be driving over there and thinking, I don't know what I'm going to say. This is going to be hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever, like you're having all those thoughts, like what if it's the wrong thing? It's going to be awkward. It's going to be hard. We're going to be sitting in the tension. And I'm so thankful that we showed up for each other the way we did because now we're at that like walking into a new year. And one of the things we've said about our friend group is like, we are stronger than ever and we have built a foundation over in our early 20s, like not realizing what we were going to walk through in the later 20s when you just get to more like real life hard things. Yeah. We're like from the rest, like from this point on, like it's not getting easier. Like we're going to keep going through hard things to the rest of our life. Yeah. And I'm so thankful for the foundation we have built to like actually be able to walk through hard things together and have been so impressed by like our friend group walking through it the way that we have because we didn't like shy away from it. We didn't grow apart because of it. We didn't like, we ran into the hard things. And I think all year, it was like a year of like doing the hard thing and confronting hard things. And I'm thankful we did. It was always worth it, even though it was hard. Absolutely. You have a great friend group. It's awesome. A lot of years foundation. What were you posting on? I was thinking about, well, I was pulling up two things. I remembered that I had pulled up also Remain and how it that means. And it says to continue in the same state or condition, which it was I was just thinking about. It's not like remaining in this one place, necessarily. The same state or condition, which is with God, like within that state. And so that's why I look part of what I loved about that word when I looked at it this morning. But then growth could be the opposite of that, but just that kind of that idea. And the other thing to go back, I was when you were talking about renewal, I was thinking about how as women, which I guess most women are listening to this podcast with men listen to you. So I mean, this relates to you as well or maybe disregard, but it's like we are kind of in a just our bodies are naturally going to cause it state a renewal. It is so truly like hormonally and having babies and all the things. It's like your body is kind of like months and months. Honestly, like you're in a kind of a constant state of renewal. And so I think that is kind of a beautiful thing that God gave us as women of like we know renewal and what that looks like and what that feels like. And it's a challenge. It's not like not always easy. Like there's there's hard things that come with that. But also there's like so much beauty that comes with that too. It is so true. This year at Passion, I said, oh, Passion is looking a little different at 28 and I did at 22. I'm pumping every three hours. I came home. I was like I'm proud of what the Lord did through me on stage, but I'm also really proud of the 55 ounces. I'm carrying home for it for kids. Your body is making new. Your body's in renewal literally every three hours. Like it making me milk every three hours. It's crazy. And it's hard, but it's so good. It's so good. I love that. That's a really good perspective. Some of the resolutions for this year. Yes. I was literally about to ask you that. You have to go first. Okay. I, this is accountable. You all hold me to it. Although I'm scared of you all, but please do. The Bible project by Terri Lee Cobble. She was on the pie gas a couple of years ago. I think a couple of years ago. And I never did it. I was told everybody to do it and then I didn't do it. So this is me saying this is my year to do it. I am on the day that I should be on, but I kind of cheated because I started early. I started at the end of December. And started reading it and then it was actually funny today. I was like, oh no, I'm missing a couple of days, but I'm actually on the day I should be now. Like, so that was those little pre-precious say here this year on the day. I'm with everybody on the Bible project. And I'm super excited about that because I can't think of the last time I like read through the Bible. I don't even know. I don't know that there has been a time that I have read through. Start like on a plan like this and actually like finished it. I know I have read through the Bible different times like reading a book here, book there, but never like consistently like this. So I'm super excited for that. Now, simultaneous to that, which I'm really excited about, I'm going to be reading the storybook Bible to Honey and Haven every night. Sweet. And so that's my goal. It's to finish the storybook Bible with them this year and then to finish my own Bible project this year. I'm really excited about seeing like each day the difference in what I'm getting fed and what they're getting fed because it's the same. But you know, Jesus says like unless you have faith like a child. So it's kind of nice to like have a little bit of a deep dive with her. But then having like this beautiful child perspective at the end of the day. So that's my Bible reading goal, which that's going to be awesome. And then my other one is, okay, I do want to start working out again. I don't have any goal other than to just do it. Like yeah, because currently I'm at nothing. So that's going to be a big jump from here to there. Let me know what I'm going to do. I'm going to get strong. I was going with, if I was going with like growth, I was going with the G word to try to say, I was like, okay, get strong. Like, what is that? How am I going to do it? I don't know, but I'm going to get strong this year. I remember whenever we started low and I had all the what is, what if I feel, what if it isn't where I need to be. And looking back, I can see so clearly that God had his hand in the whole thing. Starting something new is exciting, but it's also very scary. And that's why I'm thankful for Shopify. 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Go to Shopify.com slash woe again that Shopify.com slash woe. Because I actually feel like I just with three kids, I feel in shape because I'm chasing them and that kind of stuff. But I also want to set aside time to actually work out because I love the way I feel whenever I do. It's so good for my mind, mentally, all that kind of stuff. And at this point, again, Renewal, I have no excuse. I'm not pregnant. I'm not like, I mean, I'm kind of post-partum five months, but it's time. It's time to go. And then my last one. So I only have these four and these are what I'm going to stick to. Is wake up earlier than I need to wake up? Because I am such like it. I've always been like this. My team knows this about me. I'm not going to be early. They're going to laugh at this now because now I am late. But back in the day, I was never really, I'm always right on time. Because I scheduled myself exactly to the time I need to be places. If I have to like, you know, get up, I'm not going to like give wiggle room. I'm getting out when I need to get up knowing like it'll take me this long to get ready. But what I realize now becoming a mom is that like you set the tone, you know, you set the tone of the day. And if I'm late, everybody's late. If I'm rushed, everybody's rushed. Because I got to get ready so that then I can get everybody else ready and going. And so Sundays, if I sleep in, then like churches just, it's so chaotic in the morning because then everybody's done a rush. So like, I know I set the tone. So this morning was my first morning to really do it. And I got up like way earlier than I needed to. It was so nice because I got my Bible project done. I had to feed kit earlier, which was great. She woke up with me. That was just a little godsend. I got to have my cup of coffee, make honey's lunch. Like I got to do so much stuff this morning. And then when Christian saw me, he goes, how do you already have like your hair make up done? I said, I already showered. I'm ready for the day. And it was like such a different tone to get someone. So I'm going to wake up earlier than I have to. That's good. That's a really good one. And that's a hard one because you know, I've never been the morning person. The morning mom, I wish I were more of a morning mom. I would have been a better mom. I think if I had been a more of a morning mom. But your great mom, thank you. I'll take that. But, um, but yeah, actually, that is that's a good one. I feel like I might take some of yours. Is it really good? That's really good because so this is just a funny aside about getting up in the morning. So the other day, now I get up earlier than I used to. Just get to say you've kind of been doing that. I do. I like to get up now. Now I used to sleep late, but now I like to get up. But my time is more like seven to seven thirty. If I wake up before that, I just won't get up. And I'm like, why don't I just not just like get myself up earlier than that? Because then I'll have more time, which I would love. But the other morning, I was, I guess it was in day after New Year's or whatever. And I remember I was like laying in bed and I kept waking up. And then it's like my brain. It's that whole like, do I need to wake up? No, I don't really need to wake up. Yeah. And that is me. And it's just like, wait a minute. It's nice to myself too. It's like you had a long day. You should just keep sleeping. Yeah, there's nothing else you need to be doing right now. Why don't you just stay in the bed? It's like your brain is always says. I was like, I wish I was as nice to myself as you are to yourself. I was like, man, it's been a rough one. It's been a rough one. I'm really nice to myself. I'm so excited about sleep. I'm like, sleep. You really need sleep. I know. Rest is important. I am definitely, this morning, it was fun at my alarm went off. And I was like, well, I actually did set my, like I was, you know, when you sit in the alarm, like this is not the one I'm going to wake up to. Like I'm going to his room. This one, then I'm going to wake up on this one. Although I know research has told you that's terrible idea. Yet I continue to do it. I kind of like it. Yeah, because then I'm like, I'm thinking about fun. Yeah. It gives you, you're like, it also gives you that little treat. Like I get to say 10 more minutes. 15 minutes. So I got alarm. And it was like 515. It goes off. And I'm like, okay, that wasn't even the one I was going to wake up on. And then I was sleeping. I was going to sleep till 530. Then Kit wakes up at 520. And I was stoked. It was like, I don't know. I bet I was like, yes. And I was like, she got on time with me. Like I couldn't believe she woke up at that time. And I was like, man, Kit, if we could get in sync. If you were about to learn, that'd be way better than waking up to this alarm. But who knows? I think that was just a treat for the first day doing it. But anyways, do you have any more that you've rigged out? Life with babies. You want to hit. You get used to what whatever they're doing. They change it. Yeah. Well, so I hadn't done my real specific goal jet. But I do want to learn one song on the piano this year. And I'm going to play it at Christmas talent show. Oh, that's great. All right. So here we go. I told Will I want him to sing. Like, I'm going to learn a song. And then Will is going to sing. It's perfect. And then we're going to do a full talent show. So I got to do that one. So one of the things, well, I want to play more tennis this year. OK. I have to do that. I'll be looking at that. Yeah. But I did write Get Strong. So I was going through these like, that's under the category. Like Get Stronger. I want to like actually. OK, pass through it. With G's. I know it's doing some of those G's. We had a piano go with G. It didn't. That's why I haven't gotten it all together yet. It hasn't all come together yet. Also, I want to go to the River Housemore because we have a space right about how we're feeling like I live. That is just like peace. And it's fun. And we have an old-timey record player. And you just play that DVD player. DVD player. There's no like Netflix. Old-school time. I have to sit on a porch. And I need to do more of that this year. So those are some just kind of like fun things. But obviously, Bauer project, that's a... I'm still trying to figure out where another G was. I'm not saying my G's yet because I... Here's what I'm ready. For G's. Get strong. Grow a garden. I want to do a garden. Grim a heart. I'm a grown. You say grow my heart. Grim a heart. Grim a heart. I'm a grown a heart. I've been harding with you. Growing a garden. I know. You see? So, um, Grim a heart. I look at it. Those are my G's that I've written so far. But I haven't like come to more. I just had to call you out and I said, I'm going with cheese. Learn the piano. Grow strong. And go to the river house. I was like, is it go to the river house? Was that the G? Well, this is when I was using growth. Then I got on remained. And I was like, okay, I don't know for sure. I'm gonna switch it to ours. So, exactly. But I did write grand mall hard because I want to like go hard in the grand mall paint this year. I want to go hard in the grand mall paint this year. That's living where you're at. Everybody from the earth. I love that. I also have some work goals, too. But, you know, that's a whole other thing. I want to write a book this year. You are a writer book. I'm writing a book this year. I'm already in that. We're doing that together. We're doing that together. Like a whole new. We're not doing it together. But entertainment thing that we're launching this year. That's very exciting. I want to help grow.comator this year. And that's there's a lot of exciting things happening there. So, I have a whole new like project that I'm working on. That we're gonna announce. It's gonna be a big event. I'm gonna podcast for my talk about. So, I think you're really sure word. I have some really good projects that are happening. Like, it's great. So, I see this year that I'm really excited about. That's awesome. I actually renew really is my word because we're going on tour in February for Ella Worship. We haven't gone on tour a tour since I got married. Because that means to take a pause. Because life was happening. And I'm writing a book. But this is the first time I'm not doing it with a ghost writer. Co-writer. So, this is totally new. Like, I'm coming back in. But I'm doing this totally differently. And it is very hard and very challenging. I do have someone helping me now. He was like helping me organize my thoughts, book map. And I'm so blessed by her. She's amazing. Definitely takes a team, even though I'm trying to do the words. But, oh, hard. And then, let's see. I'm doing, yeah, I feel like I'm doing a lot of things similarly to that I did in the past. I'm having another opportunity to do them. Yeah. I'm getting a May. Having an ounce of jet. I have two things I'm doing in May that I did back in the day that I'm getting to come in at a new spot in my life at. So, that's super cool. So, just really excited to step into this year and be renewed and what God has for me. So, this was great. I'm inspired. Pumped about this year. I'm excited. It's going to be great year. I'm all hard. I'm all hard. Also, if anybody wants to do these with me, please feel free to do it. Like I said, I'm going through the Bible project. All right, I'm thinking about Bible project. Bible project. It's really, it actually is really, really good. And then I'm reading the storybook Bible. So, if anybody wants to get that, I just literally prime that to my house because Donna Stewart asked Donna and Ben, like, how did you all start introducing the Bible to your kids? And I told them, like, you know, we watch minnow and watch those shows and then we got churred to talk about the Bible. But like, I don't know how to read the Bible to them with it being like understandable, I guess. There are parts that I read, but like as a whole. And they were like, store it by a little and then JP was sitting beside us. He was like, don't just store it by a little. Just store it by a little. I was like, what'd you do? I was like, oh, well, now I do. And so, if you all are mom out there, I want to read to your kids, that is awesome. I'm going to work out. I have no other details, but I'm going to do that. And then I'm going to get strong. Get strong. And then I'm going to plan to wake up, not plan I'm going to wake up earlier than I need to. So, as a, those are mine. If anyone wants to join us, we're very good. And we're going to play tennis. We're going to play Martinez. I'm not going to grow a garden, but I will benefit, hopefully, from some of the things that you grow. I'm going to get back in the garden this year. Thanks, mom. Well, here's the 2026. Let's go and strung with a lot of intention and see what God's going to do. And what I do encourage you, final, send up, write it down because you'll be amazed next year, years to come, what God did in you this year. If you don't have physical paper to write it down on, you're like, oh, I need to get that. I need to get that. Don't wait for that. Go ahead and write it in your notes right now so that you're accountable to it, because I always do that. I won't get it right it later. And then I don't. And so I'm super thankful for whatever I do right down. And my notes on my phone. So do that now as a little accountability to yourself and let's full send it people.