EP 87: Did You Ever do M*** In My House? | 2 Addicts & A Moron

All right, well, we are back to another episode of two addicts and a fucking moron. Yeah. Hey. And today. Man, we I wanted to have him on since day one. And there's just been a lot of stuff that prevented that from happening. But I give him props because he is our biggest fan. There is no doubt about it. He has watched every single one of our episodes from cover to fucking cover. Yeah. And we've talked to a couple of them. We've talked. We've talked about you so many times on here as a reference because you are a mentor of ours, both of ours. But ladies and gentlemen, Ramon Rodriguez, everyone. Let's go. So Ramon, you are not an addict. Well, that's arguable. Just like me. I think we all have that addict, a tendency. Yeah, for sure. In some way or other. But you you have a lot of experience with him. I do. I didn't. I didn't know I knew nothing, actually, was pretty. I mean, I'm knowing you what? 2012. Yeah. And were you on meth then? Yeah. So you were on meth before you even came to your other career. I was I was gambling like weekend stuff. But whenever I came to the company I'm at now, where we were, we worked together, yeah, I started like fucking just doing it. I had no idea. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't have to. I wouldn't have to need that game. I didn't grow up around drugs. You know, I didn't grow up around, you know, my mom would drink some beers. And I mean, I grew up around like partying. Yeah. I mean, heck, one from Southeast Texas. So at 13, you start drinking. Yeah. Underneath the bridge somewhere. You know, it's kind of what you do in those towns or 3,000, 4,000 people every weekend. And but there was nobody out there doing lines. There was no one doing marijuana. You know, none of that stuff was happening. There was no X. There was none of that stuff happening. And I didn't get exposed to that stuff until my 40s. Yeah. You know, so it wasn't something that it was really instilled in me. So I had no idea that the people that I was surrounded around, um, not just in my professional career, but in my, you know, even in the military, you know, I had no idea that there was addiction going on. Yeah. And I didn't know. And so it wasn't until people I worked with like, you know, that guy's on drugs. I'm like, really? I was just out with him the other day. He was he was doing some drugs at that point. Really? Yeah. He hasn't slept since then. Super, super naive to it, man. Yeah. But so you're more on to Hunter. I was. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Sure. I mean, you know, and the jury's still out to find my moron. Probably have to. My kids definitely think I. Well, look, dude, thanks for coming on. And we wanted to have you on for a lot of reasons. One, I think I don't know that I've ever gotten better, more real advice from anybody. You're not far down the list of people that I'll call if I need to bounce some shit off of. I know he feels the same way about you. So there is that. But having to. Be naive to to the world that you were in and having to see Mike. I mean, I met Mike at your house before I worked there. That was the first time. And it was several months. That was COVID time before. Yeah, several months before I had started working there. And did you ever do it in my house? No. Are you sure? You can't lie to me outside in your the outside bathroom. I didn't do it inside your house. I respected your family. So you know, he was looking at me and I was like, this motherfucker is lying to him. He's not looking at you. He's looking at me like he's lying. You got the outside bathroom for the pool for the shower. Yes, my I would go out there. It's Christ. And and was I mean, it was away from everybody. You know, there's no secondhand smoke. Your dog would always follow me out there and fucking be barking. I'd be like, shit, come on, fuck me, smoke my shit. Yeah, well, so classy. You're so classy. Hey, I just Jessica found out after I came back from rehab that I used to do it in her house. Oh, and she was like, are you serious? And then when she told her husband, Brendan, Brendan's cool as fuck. Brendan's like, shit, if you want to tell me, I want to win. I'm so with him. Yeah, he is cool. But yeah, I did it outside. I didn't do it in your house. I didn't bless your house. Amen. It is what it is. That's why. But you know what? You're not doing it now. Yeah, that's all that matters. Yeah, that's funny. You can't lie to me. I was like, right fucking there. Like, no, you really gotta be and you fucking you put a smile on your face. I was like, man, yeah, I did it. I kept it. I did it. So talk about talk a little bit about your experience being nice and then having to learn kind of the hard way. And you were you were a supervisor. I mean, you were a supervisor, supervisor. And I mean, you were pretty blunt with me when he was coming over to the house, like, hey, this is the guy that I just eat. I know he's here. I know he's safe. I know he's not doing it. But but you know what I mean? Like you were you you had told me like as in a as in a, you know, when we don't grow up around it and I never surrounded myself around with anyone who did it. I remember the first time I probably saw somebody do cocaine. And I'm probably I don't know why I say probably the first time I saw somebody do cocaine. His name is GK. I won't say his name. But and I saw him do it. And I had I had I held him in high regards. He's one of the reasons I joined the military. Right. And he when I saw I saw him do a line at the sky's house, I was just like, oh, all like, like, I lost so much respect for him. And in this, the act, it was the act. It wasn't that he came and told me that cocaine, I wouldn't. It was the act of seeing him do it. Was just. Disgusting. Yeah, dirty, dirty. It didn't look like it did in the 80s movies when those guys were doing it and whatever. It wasn't classy like you you think how they portrayed in Hollywood. It wasn't. It was just like, oh, yeah, I've known this dude this long and he's doing this and he even apologized to me. He's like, hey, man, I'm so I'm like, no, it's OK, man. It's OK. But I lost I lost a lot of respect for that guy at that time. And we ended up having a falling out over time anyway, because not because of that, but just, you know, it is what it is. But yeah, man, it's it's definitely difficult not knowing it was it was difficult being naive to it. Because not difficult being naive to is not not even the right word. It was not not really knowing and just taking people further, further full face value. Yeah, like I don't I look at Mike and I saw Mike and he was just a good, a great salesperson. Not only that, a great heart. I mean, dude, always bringing people, you know, free bringing people stuff. Yeah. Later, we found out that he's stealing it from freaking dealers. Putting, you know, putting a 50 cent tag on it from, you know, a hundred dollar a hundred dollar polo, you know, literally, we know he was doing that. But it was I had no idea because I'm taking everyone as their face value and as in that they are the real person that they are. And it's not that they're under some other thing because me, you know, get drunk on a Friday night, Saturday night, you go blow it up, get hung over on Saturday on a Sunday morning. And then, you know, you're gone with your life. Yeah. And to think that someone wakes up on Saturday morning or on Monday morning, doing what he was doing, actually, it's crazy to me. Yeah. It was just crazy that that's the way it was. And when you don't know someone is doing that, you can't manage them. There's no way to really manage that situation. Yeah. And when you don't have any coaching, you know, and so. Or especially when you're someone that's good, somebody that has talent, a lot of that stuff goes out the window, even when you do know, because at that point, they're kind of like they're helping you. You need them. So now you will look away, you know, turn your head to certain things just because it's a financial gain to you or or whatever. And I think that's what happens. I mean, too much now anyway, with with a lot of people, we get people get used a lot versus keeping them from using. We end up using that individual and putting them in situations like, well, if you don't do this, you're going to have to go do this. I mean, we just talked about a guy that did center rehab, right? Yeah, it was probably a similar conversation like that, where it was like, well, if you don't do this, you're going to get fired. You know, I've I've never known someone that you made them do something and it sticks. It doesn't work like that. Yeah. It wasn't until this guy's wife, ex-wife told him, you're never going to see your little buddy again, unless you go do this. And even at that point, he still tried to be conniving, but then he realized I can't and then he kept it because that keeping it keeping that so brought to me, keeping this kind of like a diet, right? People did the Atkins diet or whatever diets are out there right now. You can do it right. You can do it great the first time. But after you get off of it and you try to do it the second time, it's really not the same. So that's first to me, the first time sober is almost like it's for me, it would have to be the first time because I don't I couldn't do it right the second time. Right. You know, I know, I know how my personality is. And and so, yeah, it was really difficult, man, to once I realized it, it was like, damn, dude, fuck, I didn't realize that. And then it was kind of easier for me to to be able to look at individuals and be able to speak to them differently and not so much. I like I tried to help like Mike, man, Mike, man, I brought him to my CrossFit gym, paid for a first month of CrossFit with him. Bro, I went there at five in the morning from the strip club, highest fuck. And I was like, I can't not show up like I have to go. He showed up. So I showed up at five. I'm fucking throw it up during the shit. And and, dude, I was I was I hadn't went to sleep in like two days. Oh, man. It was terrible. It was fucking terrible. And one of the main guys there, he's he was a lieutenant at the the CrossFit gym, and it was him and his wife. They were awesome. And I probably would still be doing CrossFit if they hadn't closed down. I'm lying. I wouldn't be doing. Yeah. But but yeah, they were amazing. But he was actually a lieutenant at Austin for Austin ISD. OK, so he saw you immediately. He knew. And so I remember I came back the next time and he didn't get Mike didn't show up the next time Mike didn't show up. And his wife told me, he said, hey, look, I'm not going to we're not going to charge you. And I was like, no, it's OK. Just go ahead. And she's like, no. And then the other guy said, he's like, look, man, I know what you're going through. That dude's going to have to find it. Find it himself. And that's when I kind of was like, you know what? That's where I was like, we need to stop enabling people. I need to stop enabling them. And so the only thing that I knew how to do was just not so much give up on you, but take away the thing that allowed you to be doing what you're doing, which is the financial aspect of it. Right. Right. That's that's the only way I knew how to be able to fix that situation to try to fix that situation for my business was to eliminate the situation that that I had. And in my mind, he's going to go here, rock bottom, and then he'll come back and everything will be OK. But unfortunately, the thing that I talked about earlier, people want people for their gain and not so much for their actual well being. Well, this guy's talented. So guess what? Ramon goes on vacation, they bring this guy back. Ramon goes on vacation, they bring this guy back. Ramon goes on vacation, they bring this guy back. But so you talk. I'm the asshole. He's the he's the superhero. Yes, this is one thousand. That's true. He would fire me and then he would I would be like fucking asking to come back and they wouldn't let me come back. But then Ramon would go on vacation for a week and they would sneak me back in while he was on vacation. So he would come back and be like, come back and there I am. He's like, what the fuck? How are we doing? You know, what is this? Just unwinding everything. He's in it. And again, it took. The axe to tell him yeah, for him to get correct because it was going to continue to be that cycle. Yeah, I could come back and be sober for a week. Like I could get sober to come back to the job for a week, maybe even two. After that, it was fucking like once I felt like I had my feet back in. Yeah. And I was in a good place. You start doing that bullshit. Yeah, I started doing that. And they're not going to drug test me this time around. I had to lock the freaking front door, the door of the office, bro, at eight o'clock because these people were always coming in late. You know, he'd always be there. Have to be sitting out there. I got to go out there like some damn. And it sucks, bro, but putting yourself in a position and. But but to be in an authority figure where you kind of hold someone else's life in your hands kind of fucking sucks. Yeah, it really does. If you take it seriously, if you take it seriously. Yeah. And so I never wanted to be that guy. I'd be like, I'm big and you can't have this because I don't want you to have the opportunity to know you can't have this because you don't deserve the opportunity right now. Go get right. And you can make so many good things happen in your life once you go get right. Yeah, I just didn't realize how hard it was for people to get right until I started listening to the show. Like I never realized it. Yeah. It's it's fucking hard for people to get right, man. Me neither. Like I had no fucking idea. Yeah. Well, I remember you used to tell me like, why can't you just fucking stop? And I'm like, bro, like I can't. Like you could have put my daughter's life in front of me. And it would have been like, I don't know if I can. Like she might not make it through this day, you know? And that's what that's I know that you've told me that before. Like you didn't realize how hard it was until right, man. And you have to. But it was hard to have. It's hard to have empathy when you've never been around that. 100 percent. It's hard to be. It's hard to see the guy on the corner. Even still to this day, I see the guy. And because of what I've listened to and heard, I'm like, well, I know what this guy does. I know what he, you know, he's going to get this money to go get his fix because he's here on this freaking corner. He's not at the shelter, you know, trying to do something different. Like that's what's going through my mind. And he's not a bad person, man. He just not loved or respected in his life. And that just sucks, you know, for whatever, for whatever things he he or she did, you know, and it sucks. But I mean, fuck, man, I mean, I changed the channel when the when the ASP ASPC commercial comes on with the dogs that are all sad. I fucking change it. So he's like, why are you changing it? I don't want to watch that shit. Yeah, because I'm not going to help him. So. It's. Is that bad? In my bathroom? No, nobody helps him. I mean, I think my wife sends sixty three cents a day to somebody. Yeah, it's $19. Much as sixty three cents a day. Yeah. Yeah, we went to a concert and we got we got I shouldn't say we got sucked in. We went to fuck. I forget who it was, but we went to watch this concert and during the the halftime, the intermission, they had the Feed the Children Foundation, where you can help and like I fucking raise my hand. Destiny does and Haven does. So now we're sponsoring three fucking kids or me, me, me, Destiny and Kaylin. Now we're sponsoring three kids for like 90 bucks a month. And that shit went on for like two years, because my thing is, is once I get charged, I'm literally not going to fucking make the phone call to cancel it. It's like 20 bucks. God fuck, God damn it. They got me again, 30 bucks. And then I finally canceled it when we when we fucking bought these two new cars. Like we're fucking getting rid of some shit. So like we don't feed the children no more. Yeah, but you know what, man, it came from a good place. And me, I just don't want to see those hundred dollars. I'm not going to do any of them. So I just rather change it and put it on the channel. Watch the damn Liberty Liberty commercial. I said, damn kid, pull up the sign. I didn't like the dad with the ostrich. Anyway, yeah. Well, that's I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I mean, that's kind of the way that I walk through life. You know, I just judging the shit out of people who did drugs or I knew did drugs. I was just like, even him, I would be like, we're cool at work. Yeah. But it's not like I want to hang out. I was trying to bring him. I was there was somebody else who used to say the reason they used to bring you back, don't you know, is because they want to keep you close. That's a bunch of horseshit. They want to bring you back because you were talented at the end of the day. Man, I wanted I really wanted him not that I was perfect, but I wanted him to see. I wanted you to see some type of normalcy. And I felt that I had a little bit of a normal life and I would try to bring Mike over to the house or whatever. And even during COVID, it was really great because that's why I think we really even bonded because he was, you know, I had five of you guys in my house. I was working. Yeah. And I mean, I thought we, you know, I kind of got a little bit more of a of an idea of how of how it all works. And but yeah, I mean, it was definitely just it's crazy because when he fired me the first time, I fucking I fucking hated you. Fuck yeah. Piece of shit. He hates me. And it was because I wouldn't go do a drug test. Remember that? No, dude, this dude. This dude, it was a story. I forgot what I was. I forgot what I was dry. I think I had. I think I had my Tacoma. I think I had my Tacoma at the time. Anyway, so I go out and I'm waiting on my first. I tell him we're going to a drug test again, idiot. Why would you tell the fucking drug guy? Yeah, I don't think he has synthetic piss. Yeah. He is on his ready. Yeah. Right. All the time. I go and I was like, yeah, I told Mike, we're going to take a drug test. And the guy and the other guy goes, why would you do that? I'm like, I mean, I mean, he's like, he's probably heating up some piss right now. This motherfucker comes out of the damn kitchen. He did some that damn piss. Yeah. Yeah. So I go down. I wait for him. I'm still waiting for him. I'm like, I don't even enter. I'm like, OK, I'm already an idiot, so I'm not even going to go deal with that shit. So I'm just away from to come back. It is what it is. We get to the car. We get to the truck in the front. I pull the parking garage and I go. I go to pick up Mike. He gets to the car and he says and I'm like, hey, man, I said, let's go. And he's like, I'm not going. I said, Mike, you're going to lose your job if you don't go. He's like, I don't care. Fire me and he starts running. He starts running down the freaking around around the. Oh, I spilled the piss on me. I lost my piss. Yeah, I'm not doing it. I don't care. So I'm like, I'm going to get your fire. I couldn't I couldn't wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, time out. He spilled his piss. He got it. He just he didn't spill it in my truck. I don't know how much bill. He's building. Yeah. On the way out on the way out. Yeah. That's why he's a. Spilled and I was like running on the road, like where cars are coming. He's running away like like I'm chasing like Freddy Krueger's chasing. Yeah, he wasn't chasing me either. He's like, I'm going to chase him. Guess what? Two weeks later, he's back to work. Yeah. What are we doing here, man? So when that happened, when that when he called. He called somebody and told him, hey, he's refusing to take the drug test. I'm just going to fire him. They were like, OK, cool. So my dumb ass, I go, I get in my car. I drive to a smoke shop and buy some more synthetic piss. Yeah. Heated up. And then I go do the drug test anyways, thinking like I'll be able to call him tomorrow and say, hey, I was just fucking with it. I really went and yeah, I was just a joke. But when I went to do the fucking drug test, I heated the piss up too much. So when I gave it to him and they were like, who are you here for? And I told him and they're like, aren't they supposed to come here with you? Because I'd already done this a few times. I said, yeah, not this time. It's just me on my own. They're like, OK. And when I handed them this piss, it's like 113 degrees. And they're like, we can't like you would be dead. I'm like, no, that literally just came on my dick. And they're like, no, it didn't. It's not possible. And Steve, I'm like, I'm telling you right now that I said, is it so hot? And you said that to him like a medical professional. So hot. Oh, yeah, they're not medical professionals. We're wasting our time. Whatever, you know, the lady was like, it's not possible. It's not possible. And I'm like, dude, I'm arguing with her like, no, I swear to God. And yeah, so anyways, I left and then I called him and I like, hey, I went to test anyways. And they're like, yeah, we don't give a fuck. I was like, well, shit, they're with that idea. So it took me like another month. Man, there was another dude, man. We just kept going around you on 20 going down 20 to 20 to get on 360. And you're going back, you're going back towards 183. And there's that, you know, you turn from the light, you turn. And then there's another turn that you can go. The guy had RIPTC. The guy I take him, he's like, I'm not going. All right. So I just I make the little loop back. We get back to the light. He'd be like, all right, I'll go. We go again. He'd be like, I'm not going. Money, are you going to fire me? Hey, man, do you have any? You're looking at my dick already. OK, I'll go. And I get to the place, man. The guy's like, all right, you got to watch. And I'm like, and we're you're in other stories behind, you know, the the the folklore behind this one. Yeah. And I'm standing behind him. Don't you look at my dick? I try to look at that thing, man. Can you just go? I say, you know what? Fuck it. I don't care. I just turn around, let him do his thing. Oh, man. RIP. RIP, baby. So many so many RIPs, man. There is. It's crazy. Yeah, there's there's a lot of stuff in there. DB, we try to save him. You know, you got to want it yourself, man. And sometimes, you know, y'all y'all in this here sitting in this chair and people you've had, you know, you've had the people who just it was stronger than them, bro. You know, yeah, it's stronger than you. And it's it's hard to fathom, but it's it's fucking real. Yeah. Well, the and it's like now the repercussion to his death because of the fentanyl thing. Right. Oh, yeah. I mean, even. You know, it has such a grip on you that you're just thinking that won't happen to you. And like Danny Carr, his man like he just got a seat. He just got made seven years. Yeah, Daniel Carr. Well, his guy is very, very good guy. I miss you, buddy. And and that I mean, his story was heartbreaking, dude, like his best friend called him and he's like, now, don't worry about me, man. I just need to get this one out of my system. I'm just going to go do a little crack. And that was the one. And that was the one he fucking two hours later got the call that he was dead and the shit that he did. So the repercussion now is like life and death. It really is. Young lady I used to work with, man. I mean, son experimented with we died. They put it they put it in the weed. Well, 15 years and 15 years old. He's out of there. Yeah. You know, have finermine in there. Finermine. Sorry. Why can't we laughing after I just made that comment? Fuck off. Yeah, I'm a generate, bro. That's right. We could add Ramona this fucking podcast. Fitting perfect. We go back to just two addicts. So. I always tell people like this, like if they don't understand addiction, like, I feel like everybody has some kind of addiction. Yeah. In some way, like put your phone down for 24 hours. See how that see what you do with that. Or like, I still have a addiction. Try not to watch porn for a fucking week and see how that works out. That's literally what fucking like you can be addicted to anything. But we just like look at people that do drugs is like, if you don't know, then you just judge them in a different way. Yeah. Right. And they're just struggling with something else. Like it's like when when you said you seen someone do coke for the first time. I remember before I ever did any hard drugs. I've told you this. I've said this before on the podcast. When people when I'd be at a party and people were doing cocaine in the back and like, God, they're doing cocaine. That's fucking nasty. Yeah. Like, I can't believe let's leave like it. But then fucking two months later, I'm in there doing cocaine with them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a I think like I seen that in an ad the other day. It said, like, if you think drug addicts can just stop, put your phone down for fucking 24 hours. Try to go without your phone. And I like the phone is cracked. I know a lot of crackage. Yeah. And especially in this day and age, try to go with your phone for a day and see how that is. And I try to do it for a week. You know, shit, my daughter's 10. Take her phone away as a grimy. You would have thought fucking we killed her dog. Oh, that's the best tool that we got, though. Yeah, that's it. As far as parents, you know, and yeah, it's that's the best tool right there. You can take that away and it ruins our life for a little bit. Yeah, I mean, my son, my son, bro, last year, I mean, last year, I couldn't get him to turn in homework because I was letting him play. He plays video games just free. Yeah. Towards the end of the year, I realized I'm like, you know what, I'm going to take this shit away. Next thing you know, things start leveling up this year. Dude, the A B's, he's got some problems here and there, but I don't have any problems about him turning things in. And he's on top of his stuff because he's no longer worried about. He's no longer got that crack, right? During the week, but Friday, I mean, Friday, he wants his time. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, once is time. And we still spend time together. We do our thing. He crawls, go out and get crawfish, whatever. And we still get the job done. Right. Yeah. At the end of the day, they have a job to do, even as a teenager. Yeah. So you moved into being a business owner, man. Rod lock. I did. I did. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, super proud of you. What's the name of the business? Rod lock. Rod lock. Rod Rodriguez and then Ignition Interlock. So basically appreciate my Joey. Yeah. So I did it when I was a kid, man. When I was like my early nine late 90s, not early 90s, late 90s. My buddy, Joseph Paul was living up here from I'm from Columbus, Texas. And JP came up here and started working for a company. I won't say the names. I don't know all the right stuff, but start working for the largest company in the world in the U.S. actually in the world that they have breathalyzers. And so basically we would install them in people's cars. And I worked in Georgetown and in Austin. I did it for about two years. And then whenever I went military, had my had my professional career and whenever I was ready to get done with my professional career about probably a year prior to me leaving, I I was trying to think of myself, man, what can I do that can that I know because I'm not an entrepreneur? But what do I do? What can I do that I know that it'd be in my wheelhouse and help me with? You know, as far as like, because you get a food truck, you got to how much brisket do I buy? Yeah, all that kind of stuff. And so this kind of kind of knew the ins and outs, man. And yeah, I mean, I left I left my company in May. And we had this thing up and going in August. And so yeah, so I install have a little shop out in Flaugerville, Rodlock. All the there's five major companies. I'm a contractor for all five of those companies. And basically when people get DWI's, they go to jail when they get out of jail, they get a list of companies that their attorney says to call to get a breathalyzer put in. And if they're in my area, they the company called me, say, hey, can you do an install this day? And then and that's kind of how it works. No, she and so I've been doing it since August 20th. We open me and my CEO, my lovely wife. And she's your CEO, whether you're working or not. That's the CEO of the hundred percent. You know, she's a she's the CEO. She does this. She got everything set up as far as, you know, how to do the emails and stuff. I'm just I'm just the nut and bolts and scars and all this stuff that I'm getting from messing with these cars. But it's a freaking blast. Is it pretty easy to put it? It is. It can be. Well, I have the resources. I have all the resources I need. It's fun, man. I mean, we come from we're we're we're 80s kids. I mean, I was born in 78. Yeah. Mike, you're born in 80. Yeah. And you're 80. You're 80, baby, as well. Just like crap. And so in the, you know, in the early 90s, what were we doing? We were we were getting speakers and doing stuff and wiring. Yeah, man, we're figure. So it was like it's like going back to my childhood, man. It's so much fun. I'm in there by myself, bro. I got no I had nobody I don't have to worry about, Mike, you know, spilling piss on me. You know, if anybody's doing anything bad, it's this guy. Yeah, the only one in there. It wasn't even my piss. Yeah, I had someone pee in a bottle for me. Oh, dude, that's build it. How many people how many people do you come through there? So I'm up to since it really took off in in December, I was waiting for one of the one of the large companies to get it. And December, they came on. So I really took off from there. I'm up to about 100. So the people get the install and they have to come back monthly to get what they call calibrations. You download the information, send it to their monitoring authority. So I have 140 right now. Really constant people that come in monthly. Obviously, you know, like tomorrow I got I got two removals tomorrow. So but I also got two installs tomorrow. So, you know, it just kind of like just works itself back in into the cycle. But yeah, so that's it's pretty. Is it crazy to you? How many people have those? No, because I was in it before. OK, but I will tell you this. Don't quote me on any of these numbers, but I'm assuming I'm thinking in Texas is probably about 20 million people in the state of Texas. Yeah, right. I mean, you know, Houston has four million Dallas has fucking five. So at least there's 10 million somewhere else. Yeah. Last year, there are 100,000 DWI's. That's five percent. Next time you go to the gas station, look at the beer, beer, beer area. Somebody's going to grab a tall boy and the guy behind the counter is going to put it in a plastic bag and they're going to get in their car or paper bag and they're going to drive off. Yeah. How many people you think actually drink and drive out of those 20 million? A lot. Oh, man. Probably 10 million. A lot. Right. So the one thing is that people don't realize, though, is the state is in Austin. They always talk about, you know, it's a no, not consequence. It's no no refusal. No. Yeah. No refusal weekend or whatever. Right. Man, in Austin, Texas, it's always a Williamson County in Texas in general. It's always no refusal. And I'm going to use this. I'm going to use this time because it's people think they can get away with it. The moment you tell up as Lee's officer, if they ask you, people always say, I had just had a beer. Cops taking to jail. Go ahead and stop everything you're doing. Grab whatever you need to grab. Put your hands behind your back and go because once a police officer will never get in trouble for taking you to jail because they were wrong ever. Yeah. But if they let you go rather, you heard someone, you're out of there. And also your blood alcohol level raises. So they're going to always use that. Right. You may be able to get out of it six weeks later. It's going to be it's going to suck that night because you have to go to jail. You ruin whatever plans you had. So people take a freaking ride here. Don't don't don't do it. It's not necessary. Yeah. I mean, I spent 200 bucks the other day. It means my wife, we went to downtown. She got a room for my daughter for for her birthday Saturday. Yeah. And so we're setting it up. Anyway, I took I paid a hundred bucks for a new brother there, a hundred bucks for a new back to two bucks. Now, not everybody can do that. Well, if you can't do that, then stay home. Right. I was going to do that. You're probably going to spend that going out anyway. Probably will. But or just stay home. But yeah, just don't do it, man. Don't even don't even test it. If I mean, yeah, it's it's just so much. Yeah, I don't even we go out to a restaurant. I don't do it at all. I don't drink at all. Because it's just it's just not worth it. I see it all the time, man. These people come in and they're all got their own stories, you know, when that's the best thing that can happen. The worst thing that happened is you kill somebody, bro. Like you're yeah, that's what before destiny got pregnant. Anytime we went out, we took a fucking lift there. We took a lift. You don't even drink. No, I do. I still drink here in there. OK, I drink here and there. But like we would always take one out now that she's pregnant. She's driving. So yeah, if we go out, but I don't I don't go out and get fucked up. I go out and I'll take a shot or two. That's it. I just can't do drugs. No, I can't do any drugs. 100 percent. 100 percent. No, I get it. Like, you know, you found your sober. Yes, that's why you used to always tell me you got to find you. You got to find your own sober. That guy we talked about, you know, I'm like, bro, I see you can't be going to that bar you go to. I mean, that dude was living on the edge, man. He was like going down there to the to the local bar, pounding, you know, shots, drinking whiskey and then and then driving home. That was the excitement being the was that she called with the endorphins. Yeah, in your head. That's not the endorphins before I wish. Don't don't mean the dopamine rush, right? That's what I'm going to get home. Oh, I made it. You're all excited. They pound another bottle when he gets there. It's all about the excitement and it's all about, you know, and also I think, you know, a lot of us, whenever we get drunk, we're like, you know, we can always say, well, I was drunk. Yeah, it doesn't matter what happened. I was drunk. That's what I mean. I think that's really a lot of times why people even do it so they can be get rid of their inhibitions and just kind of be themselves. And then you can always go back to blame it on that. Yeah. At the end of the day. So. Yeah. Yeah. So talk about the like you say, again, you're like one of the best people I give advice of all time. And I know you're in there of you're in there with these people and you got to have some conversations. No, I mean, I believe I've pimped y'all's place a lot of times. And but yeah, I do try to put time in there alone. And I just talk to people all the time. I don't talk to anybody. Yeah. So now I kind of get somebody. I'm like an old man. You get a hold of that person who's listening. And you get to hold them hostage. Yeah. And you kind of go, man. But especially I bet if you see like younger kids come in, like that's got to one of the things I always tell them after I'm done doing the install and show them how to do everything. I was like, look, after this is over, man, let's never see you again. Yeah. They're like, well, isn't that your business? I'm going to have another one behind you. Not everybody's going to listen to me. Yeah. There'll be another one right behind you. I just don't want to see you or anybody else you know. Yeah. You should be spreading it. You should be telling your friends you should. Hey, I got a DWI. I mean, because they're they can't they can't say shit to you because they have drank and drive. Yeah. They've had it. They've done it. So they can't say shit to you. You just got caught and make your your situation a learning lesson for other people that are around there. Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, that's really I mean, I get the kids out. Like there's a guy who was in in prison recently. He was in prison for like three years and he came out and we were the guy I mean, he's you know, he living on the Tony Montana life, you know, now he's construction guy working on the project over there in Flugerville, you know, on the on the city. Oh, yeah. And that's what he's doing now. And I stay late for him. I stay till seven. I don't stay till seven for anybody. But I did for this guy because he's trying to make a shit right. He's trying to make himself better. And, you know, I own the place so I can I can do it if I want to. And I want to I want to be there for him to help him out. And we were talking, man, and he was telling me about his girlfriend a couple two months ago, telling about his girlfriend, making these these Berea balls. I guess it's a new thing on Facebook where she makes some just these like these little meatballs, but with the Berea meat. Oh, yeah. The Berea tacos. The brisket, the slow cooked brisket. Sounds delicious. Well, we talked about some of my hey, man, I said, kind of like what happened to you, like what Evelyn did to you. I said, why are you talking about doing? Why don't you just do it? I said, how much does it cost to do it? He's like, well, I haven't looked at it. I said, well, it's real easy, man. Find out how much, you know, how much meat, how much meat you need to make one. And they just multiply that shit. I'm sure you got a bunch of people that can do it. Anyway, the moral story came back the next month. He came back. His girlfriend started that shit, man. She had posted it. She posted a thing on Facebook about her or Instagram of the balls, opening them up. Everybody loved them. They ended up taking like 20 orders and he told and he made his girlfriend. Hey, man, we're going to do this. And they ended up doing it. And in one weekend, I haven't talked to him since then, because it just happened like a couple of weeks ago. But I'm excited to see what happened. I feel like I helped him kind of give him the drive to be like, OK, man, I can sometimes we just need to have some man that that's that really listens. Yeah. And a lot of people hear you. A lot of people hear a lot of shit. But nobody really listens to you, you know, because they're trying to get their agenda out there. And sometimes when you have someone that's their ears are open, that the guy we used to know that I used to work with, man, he used to always say like with young people, always leave him with an impression, leave him with something. You see someone young, leave him with something. There's something you have to offer. If they're willing to receive it, give it to them. Yeah. And that's kind of what I try to do. I try to find feel these people out and see if they if they want to receive the information. Yeah. And if they do, I'm going to give it to them and give them the game. That's one thing I always said about you and was there is you guys understood how to listen. And you also understood like how to. Everybody has you give different, different advice and you speak different. You can't tell me the same thing that you would tell more on. Right. Or Joey. No. You I'm going to understand it different than he is. And that's one thing I always respected about going in one of y'all's offices and saying, Hey, I got a problem, especially when I got sober. Like, Hey, can you help me with this? Because I always see things like one way and you guys were always able to show me like, What did you think about it like this? Like when you came over tonight, yeah, I was like, Dude, I got a problem having issues with my daughter right now and Destiny's having issues with her. And like and you gave me like four different fucking great advices that we should do. And those are I those are things that I never I never even looked at. I would have never even thought like, Oh, and then more on said the same gave me great advice on one of them, too. So like I always said that about you and about about Hosea is y'all have a ability to hear someone and then also see what they're not seeing and then give out that advice. Like, What did you think about this or did you look at it like this? Mike, it's all but it's also just having an open mind because there's a lot of people who give advice and they don't want to hear anything from anybody else, right? You know, but they're not open to it. Yeah, yeah. You have to be open. You have to be humble yourself. And and be open to it. Yeah, open to other things that are out there because we're you're only you're only as smart as the people that you surround yourself around. Yeah, yeah. You know, and if you want to learn more and be more, you know, you have to you have to allow people you have to allow people in, you know, to be able to get that knowledge. Yeah, man, because the moment you and that's what happens when money people put money with power and they put and they put that power with dominance. And then and then they get put on this, you know, they get put on the they put themselves on this pedestal because there's no one with more money that they can listen to because it's about money. No, it's not about money. Once you get rid of forget about the money part and surround yourself with a good human being who has more wisdom than you. That's what we need as mentors. We need people who have more experience or more wisdom, not necessarily be more have more money. Yeah, than us, you know. Yeah. There's Yoff had some great people sitting at this thing who are not wealthy individuals, the handyman. Oh, yeah. Oh, fucking phenomenal. Not only not only is he a funny dude, he came out to my house. I had him come out and he told me straight up he's. I said, kid. This dude was awesome. She hand. He brought him in. Different. This dude, I did. I brought him in for a quote. He came on a Saturday morning. He came on time. He came on time on a Saturday morning and I was having some stuff. I wanted some some stuff done to the garage or whatever, some wood that's coming apart and I had got some crazy outrageous quote. And then he's like, well, I would just do this, this and I was OK. I said, what about that roof over there? He looked me straight in the eye and he said, you said, sir, I'm telling. If I don't have to get on a ladder, I don't. So I don't think I want to mess with you. I was like, fair enough. I didn't hire him because it wasn't it wasn't a job. He's a completely different scope of what he does. Yeah, yeah. But I was so like this dude is so knowledgeable. He was so fun to listen to here. Yeah. And he was very professional and everything over there. I just want to give see if you get another chance to see if I can find him a handyman. But you know, for what I needed, it just wasn't it wasn't. Yeah, super good, dude. Probably one of our best guests we've ever had. But he's someone that you can listen to. He's not financially wealthy. He has a wealth of knowledge and addiction. Yeah, also got life experience. Man, that guy. Yes. The wise man. Man, what happens is we don't allow people who are smarter than us or wiser than us inside of our inside of our circle. Yeah, because we get intimidated by it. We're scared that they're going to look down on us. Man, fuck that. Take it all in. Now, I understand exactly. I get into I still get intimidated sometimes talking to certain people in some ways, like uncomfortable, not intimidated. Well, I used to get intimidated when I talked to you. Yes, because I was an asshole. Well, you were also knowledgeable on certain shit. And you could see through my bullshit. I was direct sometimes. Yeah, you could see through my bullshit. And you could tell when I was like, I didn't like looking at you in the face because I was like, fuck, you're going to know I'm high as fuck right now. Every time I ask, you never were. Yeah. You know, I'll go take a piss test right now. Exactly what I think. I'll take a piss test right now. Well, I even got the time or energy to put you in my car and go fucking. That's what's crazy. I'm thinking about like all the times you had to drive me, right? Like we're taking time away from the company. Like, what are we? What are we fucking doing? Just fire you. Yeah, let you get hit rock bottom in the fucking figure. I figure life out. That's so much easier to do it that way. The way that the route you took. You know, shit. Yeah, man, that's good shit. So I felt like the transition. You you did you did ride sharing for a while. I did it for a week. For you. OK, well, whatever it was. It was so much fun. Dude, that was the best. Like listening to those stories were the best. And I fucking told you. I was like, dude, you need to create like a YouTube channel or something. Like and get these people to sign a waiver. And it's just advice with the ride share. Yeah, with Rodlock or whatever the fuck. It was it was fun, man. Dude, I'll. This is a funny story. Me and Amy are riding with you. We're riding somewhere and you're telling the story around Christmas. Oh, about this young lady. Didn't speak any English. And she was like a high school kid that had a baby. So I picked. So yeah, I'm I somehow end up in Cedar Creek, right? Cedar Creek area over in Bastrop area. And so I have this. There's this I get a ride to pick up at the high school and I go to the high school and there's nothing there. Well, there's a food truck, not a food truck for food. Like there's like a like a pantry truck. Yeah, right. That come for the food bank. Yeah, that is parked outside the high school, but like on the other side, like in a pasture somewhere and there's a young lady. I'm like, am I picking up picking her up? OK, she has her baby with her. So I guess that school has a daycare where they can they can still go to school and bring the kids. That's a funny story about Lily, what Lily said told my wife the other day. She was going through my wife's yearbook. My wife is 45. She goes to my wife yearbook. She's like, mommy, you got a lot of friends with kids. A lot of people pregnant. I was like, yeah, same thing in my school, too. That's a big thing. Yeah. But anyway, so I got her I got her in the car and I was, you know, talking to her or whatever and I took her took her home. Well, talk about humble. I mean, just the house was like it was a make shed. It was a tough shed. That wasn't tough shed brand. It was like put together with tan and shit like that. Yeah. And the I helped to take groceries out and I put her in the house and I left. I gave her 200 bucks. I said, here you go. And I just walked off. She was like, I was at Merry Christmas. And I slept. And Suzanne was like, what the fuck? How the hell are you going to be driving and fucking giving away your money? I was negative for the day. Cedar Creek is so far away. Number one, number two, he left her with 200 bucks. And he's like, he's like, yeah, so, you know, I got out of the car. I helped her get her groceries in and then I gave her $200. And I said, Merry Christmas. She's like, aren't you supposed to be out there making money? And this motherfucker takes his hand off the wheel in the middle of the highway. It goes, I know, I know. Yeah. I can't do it, man. It's it's it's crazy. She probably still talks about you to this day. And I don't I don't do it for that reason. I know. But I hope. But I hope I hope it's stuck with her to see that there is some type of good humanity out there when, you know, that could have been another Uber driver that tried to do some stupid shit with her. You know what I mean? I always that's one thing I've got that I've learned in my sobriety is in my addiction. I used to always give to people, but for there was always like intentions behind it, right? And I got to check my intentions now. Like am I doing this for the right because I would like give someone 20 bucks for gas and then film it and put it on Instagram. Right. Like, yeah, help this person get. Yeah, you know, or give out a lottery ticket to home purse homeless. But I always got to check my intentions and ask like, I don't why am I trying to do this? Am I trying to do this for the right reasons or the wrong reason? We have to remember who's watching too. Mm hmm. I went to I went to HB a couple of a couple of months ago and I got some stuff and I went and took it right home. And then all of a sudden I'm missing a bag. I'm like, I think I'm missing. They didn't give me my stuff. I left it there. So I went back to HB. This is what I do now. I used to never do. Yeah. No, I do. Yeah. So I went back to HB. I say, ma'am, I left I left this bag here and she's looked at. She looks in a section. She's like, well, it would be here. And I'm like, I'm I said, listen, I promise you, I'm not trying to come back to HB for some freaking barbecue sauce or whatever the hell is I bought if I didn't leave it here. She's like, go grab what you need. So I went and grabbed what I got and came back as I'm walking into my house in the mudroom. I see the fucking. I see the bag of the floor and I'm like, fuck. So I got to go pick up Lily at school. So I go and pick up Lily at school and then she's like, we're going to HB. So why I said, because I told them I had a bag that I thought I left here. And she's like, well, why don't you just keep it? I said, I'm not keeping it because it's not mine. I just thought I went. Yeah. And I said, here, ma'am, I said, I brought this. This is what I had yesterday. The I said I had it was somebody else. He's like, all right, whatever. So I just left. But it made me feel good. And like, you know what? I showed my daughter like that wasn't mine. I made a mistake. Let's go fix it. And that's kind of what we have to do. Yeah, I've done. I've done that like leaving Target and fucking Kalen has like a stuffie in her hand that we didn't pay for. And I'm like, fuck, Kalen, we didn't pay for that. She's like, well, what do we do? We go back in and pay for it like back in the day. I'd be like, fucking good job. Next time grab more shit. Yeah. Now, I see you have to look at the people that are looking at us now, man. It's more it's life is bigger than us. It's just bigger than I mean, you know, something you got a 20 something year old daughter. Like, you know, about to have a senior. Yeah. You know, over here, you have a who you have and what we do. I got I'm I'm putting this over here. When you say that this is here. Check it. Oh, that's all the kids that I coach volleyball. They had that made for me. Oh, and then they all signed it. I would have cried like a little bit. I did because they gave me a card and in the card, it was like, you've changed my life and all this stuff. And bro, like fucking crying. And I've got to like remember like, like one of the moms emailed me yesterday. And she said, hey, we've we've finally watched your podcast. And she was telling me a little bit of her story. And I'm like, bro, you should come on the podcast. Right. I won't say her name. But she said her daughter, it's her daughter's first year playing for me. I have a I've got 10 kids that have been playing with me for like four seasons. And then this season, I had three new kids. I had two kids fall off and I had three new ones. So she's one of the new ones. And she messaged me and they know about the podcast, right? I don't hide it from you. Of course they do. You're telling everyone that I wear my shirt everywhere, too. And but she emailed me. She told me her story. She said, me and my husband watch your podcast. And are you coaching again this summer? Because my daughter does not want to play unless she's coach unless you're coaching that shit, like you can't put a price tag on any of that. And with what you're saying, you got to watch who's watching you. I've got to watch. I got to remember that all these kids are watching me, too. Like whenever I want to argue a call or lose my shit, I got to remember. And I got 13 kids that are looking up to me that are paying attention when I'm doing and they're also watching this, knowing that used to hide meth in your butt. Yeah. Hopefully they're not watching this. One of the girls like, you have a podcast. What's it called? Where's it at? Say you're not going to be watching. No, no. Yeah. Watch. I always felt weird. I think my son, I think his son used to have his whole team watching. We got first started again. I get listeners like this. So like I go to baseball games and they're like, hey, how's the podcast going? I'm like, why the fuck are you watching it? Come on, man. Like, yeah, I mean, they but they're older teenagers, man. They need to they need to be watching that. They should be seeing. Yeah, they should be watching it now. A little bit. I mean, you know, kids are different, brother. I mean, I've been talking to my son, like a grown man for since he was freaking three years old. Yeah. You know, I always got down to God down on the knee. Now I look up at him, but I always got down on the knee and talk to him straight up. You know, we curse in my house. They don't curse around me. I'm sure they do. I mean, I hear him when he's playing his games, but they have enough respect. You know, they know they're not supposed to do it around. Yeah, man, I don't curb that kind of stuff. Be be straight up with your kids, talk normal to them. And and they'll be good human beings, you know, yeah, as long as you're real with them at all the time, you have to be. You have you can't sugarcoat shit. I bring me to like what you're saying earlier about the. How that happened. You know, it's crazy. And one thing that I learned from Evelyn. Which I talked to her, I told her I was going to, I haven't talked to her this month, but I told her I was going to be coming on. Hopefully I can get her to get her to get her. She said that she'll come on. Yeah, she she got sick or something. Yeah, we scheduled her last and man, she told me, you know, that I've talked to Joseph about this is that. We find like you would have never felt that if you would have stayed the way you were 1000, I would have never coached. Never. And so. I think a lot of thing with addiction, man, and with just the people in general, I think a lot of us, we find our, we find comfort in our own pain. And what I mean, maybe that what I said is what I mean, but to elaborate is when you've been deal, when you've been in a situation for so long, we talked about a little while ago, you know. I got hit when I was a kid. So I hit my kids. Right. I don't. Um, I think I probably hit Lily once. Nathan got, he got this hand a couple of times, but I told him it was coming. Yeah. And then he still did it. And so that gave it to him. Yeah. But I don't, I don't, uh, corporate punishments, not something I do. Uh, I do do corrective, uh, corrective behaviors. I do that fucking Hill 55 times and bear crawled up that. So I know dude, it was the best thing in my life. It was awesome. But hey, man, he's never, he's never skipped school ever again. And he didn't fucking quit. And he did. You know, my God, that video was the best. Bro. Yeah. I watched it. So that video was the best. That was because you're a thought was, oh, I'm, he's going to be fucking throwing up and he's going to fucking be begging to quit. I'm over here. Never asked to quit. Like you. So I got, I'll say what. So basically my son, he skipped, he skipped school and, um, it's seven in seventh grade. He went across the freeway to the movies, movies that open till 10. It's eight o'clock. He's walking with some little jerk off. Cross the freeway. Kid doesn't even cross the street at my house. He's crossing the freaking freeway to go to the movies. It's not open for another three hours with no fucking money. Okay. Anyway, I get a phone call. I'm in Houston. I get a phone call and the principal's like, Mr. Rodriguez. I'm like, yeah. I was like, I said, why are you calling me? And I said, hold on, what did my son do? And he fucking told me he skipped school. I was like, and I had just told him, I said, look, I'm about to go to Houston. I said, it's you. Don't give your mom a hard time. And so principals right there. Yeah. He puts them on a phone. I was like, what the fuck did I tell you before I left 12 hours ago? I said, don't give your mom a hard time. You're skipping school. Anyway, make a long story short. A week went by. I took away his phone. So I took, I was talking to one of my, one of my other, one of my co-workers that I work with, uh, RT. Yeah. And he told me, he said, smoke him. I said, man, now for anybody who doesn't know what smoking is, smoking, well, what it was when I was in the army, smoking is whenever the drill sergeant gets on your ass, makes you do pushups, up, downs, whatever the fuck, until smoke starts coming up top of your head or he start throwing up. Like that's, that's smoking. That's when you smoke somebody. And I was like, man, it's a little too late. It's already been a week. You know, he's like, it doesn't fucking matter. I said, okay. I said, I said, you know what, I think I'm going to do that. Hmm. So I got home and I told him those are like a Thursday. I said, Hey man, I said, go put some workout clothes on. Are we going to go work out? Yeah, you are. I said, he's, I said, I said, do you want your phone back? He said, yeah. I said, okay, I got something for you. Let's go. So I took him, I went out. So you played it that way. Yep. So I went over off a Weiss road in Flugerville, where Lake Flugerville is on the backside and the backside, they probably got an 8% grade on that. On the hill. That's a hill. It's a big ass hill. It's a long one. And I told him, I said, look, no bitch. I said, I want you, you're going to, I said, I want you to bear crawl up that hill. You're going to walk down because I don't want you to fall down. You're going to do a push up. You're going to do a sit up and you're going to go, oh, you're going to do a push up. You're going to do a squat. You're going to go back up the hill. You can do it twice. You come back down. You can do two push ups, two sit ups, do a ladder. And we started like six o'clock. It was still daytime. It was either five o'clock or six o'clock. Remember exactly, I think it was like in November. So it's probably anyway, it doesn't matter. Fifty six minutes. This boy went up that hill. He went up that hill 55 times. His sister told me at one point, Daddy, you're going to kill him. I said, he hasn't stopped yet. He hadn't even he never even asked me to stop. He didn't say, Daddy, I'm tired. Like how many am I doing or no bulls***? Nothing. He just knew that I told him he had to fucking do that until I got tired of looking at him. Bro, he was drenched in sweat, man. And the reason I was so I was not so much about the punishment. The punishment is exactly what I needed to do, right? But it was the way he reacted to it. And that's when I knew this motherfucker was different. Yeah, my son, now he was he's not an athlete as far as on on sport. But I knew that motherfucker is different. And I knew that I can count on him for anything at that point. So anyway, my sister told him, Daddy, you're going to kill him. She hates him. And she told me she's going to kill him. She hates him. And so he runs up that hill, man. And I tell him, I said, look, I said, if Lily beats you, you're going to have to go do it. Because he went up to 10. And so you have to go do 11. Boy, that motherfucker ran so fast. He ran up that hill. He came back down and I have the video and I still remember he was sitting or just sweating. I was like, son, I have never been more proud of you than I am right now. But you are a fucking soldier. And I love you. And I gave him a big old hug, man. And that was the end of it. I never had to do that type of correction upon that type of correction. Never. Yeah. And it was just, I mean, the kid was just built completely different. He is. He is built different. He's amazing. But to go back on the. Yeah, man, we find misery in our own in our own in our pain, in our own pain, man. I mean, we find comfort, find comfort in our pain. Because it's all we know. And to think that think about it, man, 12 years ago, if you could have known that you would if if you could have seen a light, right? Because there is a light that's shining. We just decided to fucking, you know, not go towards it. Because it's like, that's just kind of far and it's kind of scary. I don't want to do that. I'm going to stay right here. Yeah. But if you if you knew that 12 years later, you were going to get a plaque from that, how quick would you got sober? You may not have may not have because it was a comfortable being where you were. Right. So you had to get you had to go through what you went through to get to where you are. But it was comfortable being in that moment. Yeah. And it's we're all too comfortable. A lot of times in in those in those sections, in those areas of of our pain, because we don't want to see something different, because it's it's scary. You mean, I've been doing this for 20 years. And if I just did this, I would feel better. Fuck that. I'm not doing that. It's not going to work. That's not going to work. We also get so used to being in that spot that this is what I know. And as long as it doesn't get any worse, then that's OK, too. But I can't imagine it getting any better. That's where you got to find that courage, man. But you were allowed to feel that way. I'm awesome. You know, that's what I'm saying is because you broke through, you gave yourself the opportunity to feel the way that you felt, which you never would have felt. Yeah. Before. Now, you know, what's funny is I enjoyed doing this so fucking much that Kalen's mom, she called me three weeks ago and she says, Hey, so I don't know if Kalen should play on your team anymore, because you're kind of hard on her. And I said, I'm just as hard on her as I am. Everybody else. I'm just her dad and she blah, blah, blah. And she's like, well, I think I'm going to put her on a different team next year. And I got offended. I said, I'm still coaching my team. So that's fine. If she wants to go play for another team, I'll come watch her. But I'm not I'm not leaving my kids. I'm still going to coach them. And I said, and after the first season that she's away from me, she's going to want to come back and play on my and she's like, you're how I am. I'm sure you sound right now. Like I'm not leaving my fucking team and my daughter goes play somewhere else. That's fine. I'm still coaching. And I said, so you don't understand. I like this is one of the best parts of my sobriety as I get to give back to kids that they all know my story. Their parents know my story and they still let their kids play for me. I'm not going to let you give that one to your sobriety. I'm not going to let you give that one to your sobriety. Get him, Joey. Get him. That that one's just because you fucking enjoy doing it. Enjoy doing outside of your sobriety. Well, I'm saying in my if I didn't get sober, I would have never found out that I even enjoyed doing. Yeah, but there's I mean, there's a ton of shit like that. Yeah, oh, yeah, that you're that you're doing now. But it's not. But that's not because you're sober. That's because you gave yourself the grace to let that shit happen. Yeah, that's true. Right. Like so I. We're going to give ourselves wins. And what you're saying is we have to be we have to humble our own selves and give ourselves the wins, bro. Yeah, it's OK. It's OK to be prideful and be like, you know what? I fucking did that. I did that. Yeah, it's OK for you to do it. It's not there's nothing wrong with that. And that's how you're able to stay the way you say, you know. And we don't give we don't give ourselves enough fucking credit. I know I don't know. I know I don't know. They know a lot of motherfuckers patting you on the back, you know. And but we need to pat ourselves on the back. You know what? I don't give a fuck what happened. I did that. Yeah, I did that. You know. Yeah. Dude, I think. Listening to the stories of Ramon talk about firing you and bringing you back. And the way that he and the way that you were. Back then as a supervisor and the way that you are now. And I've told you this before, but the way that the change that has happened in you, but the same that is still remain, you know, there's not too many people on earth that that we can just pick up a phone and get on a group text to. And, you know, I come from great family. My mom, my dad, they're great. I always I can always call them about anything. But, you know, having the having the strong friend support and having you support the shit out of this thing from from the word go was. I mean, it was awesome. And then you would even leadership is something that's never going to leave you. I've told you that before, too. You can try and go be in a hole doing fucking breath alizers by yourself while you want, but it's going to end up happening. I promise you, there's going to be people that come in there and you're because it's in you. But you telling me how to get better. You're like, hey, kind of you missed you missed on this point. Or you fucked up there in this. It's really helped me get better, too, as as a person who does this now for. I care about you all, man. I'm listening. I'm like, I'm thinking to myself. I'm if I'm hearing this, other people are hearing this, too. You know, just give a little. But I'm not scared to give the feedback. No. But other people would be right. Yeah. And that's not a. Yeah, that's one thing like I got from my mom and my mom is I'm realizing now more than ever because I told you what I told you about that. Yeah. I won't say that out loud here. But my mom is she's she's awesome. She really was awesome. I'm starting to now realize, though, I have all her quirks. I have all of them and but I'm starting to embrace them now and I'm starting to understand I'm getting better relationship with her, too, because, you know, we, you know, we got we got mommy issue sometimes. Some of us got mommy and daddy issue. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And so, yeah, man, my mom has definitely been someone that I've been bringing summoning, if you will, I'm I'm realizing, fuck, I am like her. You know, and I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad about it. You know, I used to hate the things she would do, but now I'm like, fuck. Kind of. This is why this is what I do. Why this is why I'm doing it, you know? And this is why, man, that woman, if you had one eye and three ears, I mean, she would bring you in the house and give you a plate of food. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's just the way it was. And so that's why it's easier for it's easy for me to gravitate to people because I was always I hated it when I was I hated it when I was a kid, bro. Fucking hated it. But now where's everybody? Where's everybody on a Friday night? The Ramones house, you know? And not because I'm trying to be big, it's just I feel that we put an inviting place for people want to be there. You know, that's kind of what I guess I always wanted. I didn't realize I wanted that. I keep I hate being I hate being around people. But then I don't at the same time. You know, you just weird. There's not there's there's a gravitational pull that happens to you that you just can't. There's nothing you can do about it. I'll always tell you that. Yeah. Destiny's always said every time, like, from the first time that we went to your house, she's like, he's so welcoming. Like, he he's one of the only people that will sit there and actually ask her how what's going on with you? Like, how's your life going? You know, most people look at her like she's so young. What do I have in common with her? She said, man, Ramon always takes the time and it's like, you have to wonder what the fuck she's doing with you. Yeah. Big old dick. No, man, you do, bro. I mean, especially, you know, people have never been there before. And I really am interested in. And she's she's sharp, man. She's she's very, very smart among amongst her her years. And just just needs experience. Yep. Yeah. You just need to just need experience. All it is, man. It's all it just reps. She tells me all the time. She like she'll experience like, dude, I'm still learning. I'm like, still learning. I'm learning how to be a wife. We're learning how to be a stepmom. We've had 40 something. I've had 47 reps for 47 years or reps, you know. Yeah. And we've done things several times over and a lot of people haven't. You know, you have to remind ourselves with that with our kids, too. You know, whenever we're doing stuff like, hold on. He's never done like I'm teaching the boy how to drive. Bro, I mean, that's and he's right. He told me it sometimes is better. Let somebody else teach him than the parent because, you know, I wouldn't yell at his son and he's not going to yell at mine. But you yell like a motherfucker, Jesse James. I'm sure you do. And Nathan, I'm he's he's going to hit every time he's backing up. If you don't look left and right, he's fucking hearing me. Yeah. You know, I've got a I've got a girl that I used to coach in volleyball that coaches with me now. She's in seventh grade, but all the kids look up to her. And she's coaching with me now. And next season, she's going to coach the whole season with me. And whenever I got a toe, Kaylin, something, I'm like, it's a nine toe, Kaylin, because she's going to take it totally different for me. But if she tells her because she looks up to her and she's a good volleyball player, she's like, oh, OK. But if I tell her, it's like, fuck you, dad. Yeah. You don't know what you're doing. Yeah. So I get that 100 percent. And this is this driving thing. I drive your car. But he's doing good. He's doing man. He drove in Austin. The other day we went to Hoover. Yeah, Hoover's is retiring. You know, Hoover Alexander from Hoover's on Mainer on Mainer Road. Oh, you're not you're not really from here. Anyway, Hoover's on Mainer Road. The guy is retiring. Hoover Alexander, he catered our wedding. The restaurant, it's a soul food restaurant. Oh, OK. And anyway, Nathan drove it off of Mainer Road. Mainer Road, yeah, to me. This guy crossed the street from the fucking. There was his first time. Yeah. Yeah. Getting in the in that type of traffic. Nice. Yeah. He didn't park with the shit. His mom had to park it for him. I just shut up. I had to go and I had to take my driver's test not long ago. And I had to like go drive with them. Oh, my license was expired for so long that when I went to try to get it, they're like, you got to take the written test and the fucking the driving test. Dude, I took that written test. The first four questions, I missed two. You can only miss six. I'm like, I'm fucked. I'm fucked. I'm sweating and shit. Like, I'm like, I've got to go tell this lady. I just failed this motherfucker. I made it. I passed exactly. So then when I went and took the test, I wasn't sure. Like, you can't really ask questions. So I'm driving with this lady and I'm not sure. Can I use it? Can I use my backup camera? Can I not? Like, I didn't know what to do. So like, but I end up passing it. Well, I hope so. You're driving since you were 15. I was 46 years old with it with the learner's permit. Because when I went to drive, I didn't I don't have a front license plate on my car, so I couldn't do the driver test. So the lady's like, well, since you take the written test and you pass it, here's your permit. Well, you've never been an adult. Right. Well, I mean, you're bro, you're figuring shit out right now, bro. Oh, yeah. And I make it. I mean, I do make I make I said all the time. I'm a four year old toddler. I'm a 46 year old fucking toddler. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's because of the circles that you ran in and what you did, you know, yeah. And I've been lucky to surround myself with, you know, guys like this, even my best friend, Mike, for the longest time, he's just we all just like minded individuals, you know, we all just kind of, you know, yeah, we're big. We just drinkers. Yeah, man. Big drinkers and, you know, but they every now and then the point is, is like, I don't think you're ever I don't think age should dictate how you how open you are to learning something new. Yeah, or something finding a new perspective about our changing something or changing your perspective. If somebody is in front of you and explains it in a better way, I can do it. I make it make life so much easier, brother, forever for all of us. Yeah, we all just listen to each other. That's what we talked about earlier. That's where the ego gets in. Man, it's a mother. Eagle kill you. It will kill you. They used to they always say in the rooms like the eat your someone's ego is the first thing that we get them fucking using drugs or drinking. Your ego will put you right back out there. That's quicker than anything. You know, like you start fucking getting good things back in your life and start getting your your job back and a girl. And now you got a car and shit. And it's like, I got all this shit by myself. I did this. I did this. And you stop fucking going to meetings. You stop listening to people. And then all of a sudden fucking shoving meth in your ass again. Yeah, that old saying, man, remember where you came from? It's like, really, really, it really is real. Yeah, just always never losing that never losing side of that. And I, you know, that was years back where I did and I had a buddy call me out on it. And I was like, you know, you could also lose friends at that point, you know, whenever you're at a certain level, financial year, wherever, maybe even mentally. And he called me out on it and God bless him for doing it, man. Yeah, you know, Adrian, he's he called me out on it. He told the bro, you're being this, this and this. And I was like, I could have easily had my ego and be like, fuck you. Guess what? I wouldn't have one of the best one, the best men in my life, you know, around my family, if I would have done that instead. I was like, you know what? I'm going to fix it. Yeah. That's what I told him. I had to humble myself to fix it because we can't see the back of our own head, man. Yeah, we can. And then also, like I said earlier, you see that light out there. We also can't don't feel that we can get there either. Yeah. Right. So we need to have people out there. You need to have people around us who can tell us who can help us. One thing I do like to the new guys that start working where I work. Is I always, I feel like I've been there long enough and I went through the goods and bads and I've lost everything and then got everything. You know, so I feel like I should be one of the ones that tell them like, hey, this and that. So I always tell them a few things. I stay, stay humble and stay grounded and remember where you came from because you can get right back there real quick. Yeah. And like that, you know, I always say, you know, the same people you pass on the way up, the same people you come back, you pass on the way back down and you can come back down. We had that dude come on. Gosh, dang it. Hold on. Let me look at the names. Oh, no. Caesar Cesar. Yeah. And he used the simplest quote that we've heard our whole lives. This too shall pass. And I was like, yeah, I do that on like the bad things. He's like, bro, I do that on all the good things, too. When I'm fucking riding high, I'm like, this is going to go over. This is going to go away, too. And I'm going to become I'm going to come back down. Said, I use this too shall pass on everything good, bad or indifferent. I was like, man, that is great advice. That's phenomenal. Think about all the people that you have here who are still who are still sober. Man, they've all they've all had that that moment. And they all are humble as every one of them. Yeah. Long Wolf, you had him here. Yeah, yeah. Wondering Wolf. I mean, come on, wondering Wolf. Yeah. I mean, Mike, I met him one time. I met him one time at at a at a. Vulcans. Yeah. At a TF's house and man, we just hit it off. I helped him with his help with some VA disability stuff. And man, just. Guys been through a lot. But now he's got the world by the balls. Yeah, on his terms, man. On his terms, everything he wants to do it. You know, and it's not. And I'm I don't know how well I can't imagine him being a multimillionaire. But I bet that mother he is. He could just tell he's happy. Matter. Yes, man, the happiness in him. We got to get. I would definitely lead differently. Where I was at before. Yeah, 100 percent. I would lead differently because it's not about any of that shit, bro. The house ain't on fire. It's not, you know, all the time. It's not. You don't have to have this. You don't. It is not necessary. Well, we mean, man, we need peace, love and happiness, bro. Like for real. It's easy for me to say that because I paid all my shit off. Yeah. It's easy for me to say that, you know, no mortgage or whatever. But but. But. It's just like I said, find your sober. You can find you can in whatever you wherever you're at. You can find your your peace. You can find it. Yeah. And we don't always have to be going for the next great thing. Yeah. I was just talking to my uncle. My parents are Cuban. I'm talking to the camera like they fucking give a fuck. Yeah. So my uncle, Carlos, I actually brought him up there one time, Teal Carlos, and I don't think you've met him. He does taxes, right? Yeah, he was he was an accountant. Well, now he's so he's in Cuba and, bro, I mean, these people are eating fucking salty water. Yeah. Like there's no food there. Yeah. There's nothing. And I remember being there in 2005 after I came back from the war, I took my grandfather and my grandmother was 99, my great grandmother. And one of the kids there, I mean, they've never eaten pizza, dominoes. These cocksucker communists put the damn they put pizza commercial from America on their on their channel. And they can't eat it. They can't get dominoes over there. You get some Cuban pizza with some bullshit cheese made from chickens, you know, whatever, some chicken cheese. And, man, they're out there just starving to death. And now I remember I remember my little cousin, name is Davy. And I remember he telling me, man, I just want to go to America and he have dominoes pizza. I remember him telling me that. And I remember them telling me like, man, you got all this stuff. I was like, man, look, I said, you're only as good as you don't they don't realize how good they have it. When you don't, everybody here, we all are trying to keep up with the next person. Right. We really are. We're trying to keep up with it. And to have that was ignorance is bliss. Yeah. To have that ignorance, brother, you should see, man, Cubans, like for real, in the world, they are the poorest, but they are probably the most educated, smartest and ingenuity. Yeah. Ingenuity. Yeah. They know how to do ingenuity, right? Yeah. They are there. They know how to create shit more than anyone. I mean, that place, brother, they are keeping those people so, so down. But they don't know any better, man. And they're out there. You see him on a Friday night out in the out in the square dancing, doing the shit that they want, doing the stuff that they can do. Nobody judging because they don't have this because everybody's wearing the same fucking T-shirt they wore the day before. That's all they got from their cousins from America that they that melded to. That's what Mike said when he was here. What are you most like, man, you go to all these other countries and he's like third world, you know, countries. And they're some of the happiest fucking people you'll ever meet in your life. And that's why bringing it back to what you said about, you know, the 90 bucks. Man, that's exactly that's what that's what got put on your plate. You know, you were able to you're able to do that. And that's what you did because you have a kind heart, you know what I mean? But we can't we don't get it. Need to get need to get we don't need to get things twisted with our with financials, where with all about money. And I need to have this and this is what happiness is. No, man, it's not. I'm not going to say happiness is being healthy and all that kind of shit. But yeah, I mean, you know, we want to be healthy so we can live a good a good long life. But man, we just want I just want to be peace, love and happiness, brother. You want to find someone that you can love and that loves you. You don't want to have any any chaos in your life. And you weren't smile, man, as much as you can. Yeah, you know, that's really all all we really want to do. And that's what I want to do now. That's all I really give a shit about. Yeah, all other stuff, a trip every now and then. Well, you're doing it. We are, man. It's good. It's it's really it's probably the I mean, professionally the happiest I've been ever. Yeah, I think except maybe in high school when I was a DJ at a radio station. Hey, there you go. Can't you? Can't you live in Columbus, baby? Yeah. And DJ like me. I actually got fired from that place. Only place I ever got fired from. We went this. This is a drug story. This is good. So I was I was a senior in high school and we had a my little crew. We had a bomb. It was a it was a blue little bomb. Yeah, it's big. And it's the one we all, you know, it got shared by everybody. You know, it was like the community fucking month. And I remember I was at the radio station and the radio station shuts off. Like I would do the the Rockets games. I think it was a Rockets game and I would do the commercials, not verbally, but I pushed the button the car for the commercial. And then when it was over, I played like a song at the end of the day, like fucking out of Texas tornadoes or some shit and sign off, right? And then I supposed to go into the room, turn off the transmitter and then turn off the air conditioner because the air conditioners inside. It's transmitters in the room by itself has to have an air conditioner because it gets hot. Yeah. Well, I turn off the fucking air conditioner, leave the transmitter on, fucking leave, I'm leaving so we can go fucking do bomb. Yeah, bomb rips. Yeah. Well, next day I come in and they pulled me in the office and they're like, and it's hot as fucking there. It's the next day. The next day is probably like it's probably like two in the afternoon and it's still hot as fucking there. And they're like the guy pulled me in there and he said, hey, Ramon. Yeah, you're fired. I said, what happened there? Like you almost burned the fucking place now. You saw how hot it is. It's because she turned off the air conditioner like motherfucker, all because I wanted to go do some drugs. Yeah. Hey, hey, say, say, man. But you know, that that was from 17 till I did it on my honeymoon. I smoke weed on my honeymoon in Jamaica. And then I did it again after after I retired from the army. You told me when you went to the that you smoked weed and then once you went to the army, I didn't do it. You stopped you stopped doing it completely, completely. You were in army for what, 20 years, 22, 22. I mean, four years after duty and the rest of the time was reserved time. But but yeah, I didn't do it the entire freaking time. Nothing, any drug. Yeah. In fact, I didn't do any other drug other than marijuana until my forty five, three years ago. It was the first time that I that I experimented with a couple of the things. But on a, you know, I'm researching, you know, I'm doing a dosing. I'm doing that kind of stuff. I'm doing what I call sophisticated drug use. Yeah. And, you know, in, you know, and it's not all the time. It's like once, once or twice a year, you know, in a in a contained environment, you know, just shit like that, you know, where I can be safe. And so that's kind of how you do it as an adult. I think how I did it as an adult versus if I would have done that shit when I was a kid, oh my God, it would have been a freaking disaster. Yeah, I probably would have ended up a certain a different way. Maybe, you know, had it not had I not done that. But yeah, man, no, so I didn't. And yeah, Jamaica, oh, wait. And then I did it again. We were in Colorado in 2020 was when we got some gummies. And that's when I did it on every now and then. It's crazy to think like when when we got to go do karaoke and we'll stay up to like 12 or one. And then I got to be at work at eight. I'll come home and fucking go to sleep, wake up, take a shower, go to and I'm dragging ass. And I'm like, I don't know how the fuck I used to do meth all night. All in go to the strip club and then go to the gambling hall and then go straight to work. And I don't know how I held it together the way that I did. I really didn't hold it together as late and. Well, you did more meth because it kept you awake. Right. Doesn't it keep you up? Yeah. Yeah. Until it doesn't keep you up. Yeah, I bet it's a car crash from that. Yeah, it's a crash called dope sick. That's when you get off it. That's when you get that's when you stop using. But yeah, you'll just I used to wake up in the middle of the night and smoke meth to go back to bed. That's how that's how much my addiction was. You take like melatonin or something. No, I don't take melatonin. Now melatonin knocks my dick in the dirt. I hate that. That shit makes me groggy as fuck the next day. So you can close your eyes and I do. You can fall asleep as you're tired. I went to sleep last night at seven. Right here. I fell asleep right there. Oh, very nice. Really? I beat off right on the couch. Great bed. Can we can we say that on fucking YouTube? Yeah, fuck you all around. Say be off. Yeah. Yeah. You have to have a disclaimer. I talked about shit in my pants last week. I got my pants on the way. I did not. I did not watch the. What did I hold on? We had a what's a separate thing that we filmed. But before likes, we just told a quick story about me. Ship my pants. Oh, very nice. Yeah. And I've done that before. I told everybody. Yeah, we came in and told him, hey, when I turn around, tell me if I shit myself. Yeah, yeah. He turned around. There was an ice cream spot right on his ass. I was like, oh, yeah, you got to go home. Yeah. So he go he goes and get ice cream spot. Yeah, he goes and then he comes back. Everybody knows he told everybody. Of course, he everybody. I told everybody. He didn't tell me not to tell anybody. I come I come back with khakis. I went to Dick's Sporting Goods and grabbed khakis and some underwear. At least you can get pants that fucking fit. I would have been folding them fucking 20 times. And there's no way I can't. I can't shit my pants at work because I can't find pants that are going to be the right length. Oh, man. Then you're not taking enough chances, man. If you're not shitting your pants at work, brother, when I was at I was at one of the water companies I was at. I took it. Yeah. You know about my. The I never mind. I promise you, Zana, I won't go into too much stuff. The explosion that I had after the concert, we went to. We went to. It was a concert we got in 2018. I bought tickets for poison and Motley crew, Motley crew. Yes, I just fucking. It was. It was my crew. Let's go. It was 2018. That is it was 2018. I got tickets with either going Motley crew or Crusher when John Bond. That makes sense. Crusher went and it was the other guy I talked about. And then the guy that used to work in Houston with it always gets the tickets. That guy. Yeah. OK. And so we got the tickets in 2018. Well, we didn't get to go to 2021 because of COVID. Like the concert kept getting pushed back. Yeah, wow. It was 18 and then it was a year later and then something happened with. So anyway, it's only 20 people died buying the concert tickets and never got to go. Fuck. And it was a minute, too. But anyway, so I went, I spent the night there and then the next day I drove back and man, we got I get to I'm on 290 and I'm right before you get to page. And there's a pink and I could just feel it coming. And, you know, so there's a guy that used that I know, RS from Beaumont. And he he used to say, when you turn 40, there's three things. All right. That you got to make sure that, you know, one is that never trust the fart. Yeah. Never waste. No, it's God damn. Why? How did I forget? There's no way I can forget it. How did I forget this? Nathan can fucking regurgitate it. Never never pass a bathroom. Thank you. Thank you. Never pass up a bathroom. I was farting just now. Never pass a bathroom when you turn 40. Yeah. I don't pass a bathroom anymore. Never trust the fart and never waste an erection. Yeah. Those are the three things that I live by. Really? And I trusted it, bro. Bro in the essay blasted. Right. I go, I go and I take a turn and I'm I'm right. I'm on the I'm facing now I'm facing east. So I'm on the feeder road on the going to Austin, but I'm facing towards Houston because I want to keep I want to have the door open this way so nobody can see me. Yeah. And so I'm on the side of the road and I I get fucking the clothes that I had from the night before. And I'm using those to do cleaner. And I get back in the car, bro. If fucking happens again. So after you cleaned up and everything again, bro. So I go down to 90. We get to Velkals. Y'all say Velkals. There's Velkals on the I think it's in I think it's in page. Who was with you? Nobody was with me. I was by myself because it was just we just got one ticket. It was $1,300 for one ticket for that. Yeah, it was it was ridiculous anyway. Three years, three years, three years. Yeah. So I go in there and thank God, bro. The gods were to think were shining down on me because I went into a bathroom and it was a bathroom that it was just that one bathroom. There was no one else and it had a sink and I had my own. So I sat there and probably 30 minutes fucking cleaning up. Took a whore bath. Yeah. And then, yeah. I remember I got home and then we had to go to we had to go to not the Houston. We had to go to San Antonio for some soon as I got home. Anyway, yeah, that was a that was a shit show. Yeah. I was like, were you laughing when you shit yourself that time? I'm kicking mad. I can't get mad at that is what it is, man. Oh, man. The second time you were like, and I lost my I lost my pill case because I take blood pressure medicine and heartburn shit. And I had left my pill case and I get the right idea that it's still going to be there like a year later. So I do you later. I'm like, let's see if it's there. And fucking pill case was there. But there's no pills inside of it. It was all broken up. Yeah. Yeah. And money. The diary just took over drifted away. Aided up. Yeah, got you. Anyway, well, I think we got one of the books here. Sure. Well, what do you think? The good one. Very nice. Yeah, you got to end it on the double shit yourself. Hey, but I will say this. I will do a plug rod lock. You won't find me. I don't have any website. But if you if you do have. If you're in Flugerville, Georgetown, I'm a Flugerville huddle or round rock and you're already going to a place and it's not my place. Just go to your spot, look for Flugerville and you'll find me. All right. Yeah, that's it, man. Hell, yeah. Rod like it's a it's a fun hang to in there. If you need a little motivation, if you need a little, you know, pep talk. If I'm yes, I'm my on my tomorrow, I'd be able to give some good talk to us. Yeah. Not that busy tomorrow. Well, then there's Friday's going to be in and out. You got to get in and out on Friday. There's nobody better. Yeah, there's nobody better. I appreciate it. I love both of you guys. You guys are awesome. You're doing a fantastic job. You probably saved so many people. You guys don't even realize it, man. Well, thank you. I don't know how I'm going to contribute to this place to this with this show today, but hopefully I contributed something. Well, you you have before you sat in that chair before you ever sat there before you even sat there. So let's get Evelyn in here, man. Hey, let's let's get hypnotized. Hey, well, we'll do that. She's going to hypnotize me. Yes, good. She's the reason, bro. If you shit yourself while she hypnotizes you, oh, God, OK, we got enough of this. Yeah, we got to move on from that. I love it. All right. Well, to.