Summary
Matt Jones discusses the controversial $2 million bonus added to Mitch Barnhart's retirement package from University of Kentucky, raising questions about university finances and decision-making transparency. The show also covers upcoming reality TV shows featuring Kentucky residents and analyzes Kentucky basketball's tournament positioning.
Insights
- University leadership added $2 million in uncontracted compensation to a retiring athletic director while simultaneously announcing budget cuts across campus, suggesting either poor optics or potential pressure to expedite the departure
- Conflicting statements about funding source (general fund vs. athletics) within hours indicates either miscommunication or deliberate reversal after public backlash, undermining institutional credibility
- Public universities face unique accountability challenges when major financial decisions are announced via email without press conferences or transparent explanations to stakeholders
- Media outlets like the Herald Leader play critical oversight role in questioning institutional decisions that might otherwise go unexamined by the general public
- Kentucky basketball's tournament seeding could dramatically shift based on weekend results, demonstrating how late-season outcomes create narrative volatility in college sports
Trends
University athletic departments using LLC structures to potentially limit public records transparency and accountabilitySeverance packages and retirement bonuses exceeding contractual obligations becoming normalized in higher education administrationDisconnect between institutional budget crisis messaging and executive compensation decisions eroding stakeholder trustReality television increasingly featuring regional/local personalities as content strategy expands beyond traditional celebrity talentCollege basketball tournament seeding volatility creating unpredictable fan engagement and attendance patterns
Topics
University of Kentucky Athletic Director Retirement PackagePublic University Financial Transparency and AccountabilityHigher Education Budget Crisis ManagementAthletic Department Funding and Revenue ModelsCollege Basketball SEC Tournament SeedingMedia Oversight of Institutional DecisionsReality Television Production and Local TalentProfessional Bowling Industry and Media CoverageUniversity Communications and Crisis ManagementState Legislature Oversight of Public Universities
Companies
University of Kentucky Athletics
Central focus of discussion regarding Mitch Barnhart's $2M bonus retirement package and institutional financial decis...
Herald Leader
Newspaper that broke story questioning UK's Barnhart compensation and institutional spending decisions
Champions Blue LLC
UK athletics entity structure that may limit public records transparency regarding financial decisions
Scripps Networks
Media company that acquired WTVQ, consolidating Lexington television stations and creating competitive dynamics
HBO
Network airing 'Born to Bowl' reality series featuring Kentucky professional bowler Kyle Troop
Stockton Mortgage
Primary sponsor of Kentucky Sports Radio show providing mortgage services
People
Mitch Barnhart
University of Kentucky Athletic Director retiring June 30th after 24 years, receiving controversial $2M bonus
Eli Capilouto
University of Kentucky President potentially involved in approving Barnhart's enhanced retirement compensation
Eric Monday
UK administrator whose role in Barnhart compensation decision remains unclear but mentioned as potential decision-maker
Jay Blanton
UK spokesman who initially stated Barnhart compensation came from general fund, later contradicted by university
Linda Blackford
Herald Leader journalist who investigated and reported on UK's Barnhart compensation and institutional spending
Kyle Troop
Professional bowler from Mount Washington, Kentucky featured in HBO's 'Born to Bowl' reality series
Mark Pope
University of Kentucky basketball coach whose job security discussed amid team's tournament positioning struggles
Lou Holtz
Legendary football coach and TV analyst who passed away; known for motivational speeches and newspaper magic trick
Oscar Combs
Sports media personality who criticized UK's handling of Buzz Baker departure and overall athletic department management
Buzz Baker
UK athletics figure whose departure was questioned by media as part of broader institutional management concerns
Quotes
"They added $2 million that they were not contractually obligated to give. No one has explained that."
Matt Jones•Hour 2, Barnhart discussion
"It does not pass the Matt Jones smell test at all. It just doesn't."
Matt Jones•Hour 2, Barnhart compensation analysis
"I think you don't give a man $2 million extra unless you're pushing him out the door."
Matt Jones•Hour 2, Barnhart retirement package
"This is what happens in corporate America. This isn't corporate America. This is a public university. That's different."
Matt Jones•Hour 2, public accountability discussion
"We're going to win the national championship very soon. I feel it in my heart."
Wintucky Lee (caller)•Hour 2, Kentucky basketball outlook
Full Transcript
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Welcome to Hour 2 of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now, here's Matt Jones. Welcome back. Hour number 2, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Just look at this. Look at that. I've got a Middlesbrough High School alumni hoodie that I can wear. How about that? I've established in 1889. After the crater. Well, the crater was a long time ago. I think he keeps acting like the crater happened like 1870. This is the town, Ryan, where Daniel Boone, like the whole westward expansion came right through here. Right through there. They had the oldest golf course in the state, don't they? Oldest golf course in the country. In the country. My mistake. Daniel Boone shot a 75. Yeah, exactly. This used to be a honky-tonk town back in the day. I remember I told you when you guys opened up that tunnel, That was big news. That was huge news in the opening of the tunnel. Yes. You came down here, right? Well, Channel 18 did. I just started there. It was the debut of our sat truck, Channel 18 sat truck. First everything it ever did was the opening of the tunnel. Wait a minute. The very first thing the sat truck ever did was the Middlesbrough Tunnel. It sure was. Well, you know, there in the news, they bought yesterday, WLEX bought WTVQ. Yes, Scripps did. So there are only three, well, four stations in Lexington, and now the Fox and the CBS station were already paired, and now the ABC and the CBS station are paired. It's like the media battle. We have, like, factions now. They're teaming up in a little NWO versus the Wolfpack here. What does that mean? Like, Jeff Pecorro now will be hand-to-hand. He used to hand-to-hand fight Keith Farmer. Now they'll be friends. Back-to-back. Same owners. It's going to be kind of weird how they handle all that. Yeah, that's Scripps, right? Yeah. Yeah, they were the one that fired me, So that's good. Oh, we don't like them then. They were the ones that got rid of me because of the McConnell thing. So now they'll have another station. RIP, hey, Kentucky. That's right. What a great one. A couple things, and I want to talk about Mitch, but there's a new reality show that involves Kentucky. Are you ready? Ready. It is going to be on HBO. It starts the Sunday of the brackets. Okay. And it's supposed to be, you know how they have that F1 series that shows you behind F1 and golf and all that? They're doing it for bowling. Wow. Okay? And there is a guy on the show from Kentucky. They're following five professional bowlers. The first second of the trailer is his Kentucky t-shirt. He's wearing a Kentucky t-shirt at the beginning of the trailer. The show is called Born to Bowl. Born to Bowl. And one of the guys lives in Kentucky. Okay. His name is Kyle Troop. Kyle Troop. And they call him the Bob Ross of bowling. Now, Shannon, I don't know what that means, the Bob Ross of bowling. Does he just have Bob Ross hair? Oh, you've got to see his hair. He has an afro. I've got to see what that means. Oh, wow, that is the Bob Ross of bowling. I'm very familiar with Kyle Troop. Happy Little Strikes. You see the Bob Ross right away. And so in the opening scene, he's wearing a Kentucky T-shirt. He is a Kentucky fan that lives in Kentucky, and he is apparently the centerpiece of Born to Bowl on Netflix. Or excuse me, HBO. I think it's on HBO. He's a professional bowler? He's a professional bowler from Kentucky. Now, I didn't know we had one of the best professional bowlers in Kentucky. Did you know that? Well, I was going to add his bio. Yeah, his bio, I'm confirming it, lists him as from Mount Washington. Oh, so he's a Bullock County bowler. Mount Washington? Wow. I've never even heard of this guy. So this Bob Ross bowler is from your town, Shane. According to his bowling profile. Never heard of the guy. He doesn't look like Bob Ross to me. What does he look like to you? Just a normal dude? Unless I'm looking at the wrong guy. You're looking at the wrong guy. The afro is incredible. A white guy with an afro like that does not look like a normal look. You must be looking at a Bob. Kyle Troop, T-R-O-U-P. Okay. And they're following these guys. Guess they make no money unless they win, so you're just watching them slum it in hotel rooms and hope they can bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a different guy? Yeah, that's a different guy. I can see the Bob Ross comparison. Okay. Now, another show that's coming on. I have three shows that are coming on. It's called Age of Attraction. And they have people age 22 to 65, men and women. And they're on an island. Everything's always on an island. Yeah. Why do they always put everybody on an island? Cheap set. They just go for it. They're on an island, and they pair them up, but then they don't tell you how old the people you are with. And then you have to decide if you fall in love, and then you'll say. So apparently there's a 27-year-old guy who falls in love with, like, a 58-year-old woman and all of that, and it's 40 people. And there's someone from Kentucky in that, too. Of course there is. There's a woman from northern Kentucky that's in it. But, of course, they don't tell you what their age is because you don't know. The premise of the show is they're all people who aren't the age they look. Yeah. So, like, the guy we saw last night, he could be on it. Easily be on it, Mr. Ferguson. Mr. Ferguson certainly could be on it because no one would think he's 65. Look, 35. Yeah. Easy. So are you going to watch that one? Yeah, I watched Love is Blind last night. I'm kind of dipping my toe into these terrible reality dating shows, and this one just looks like the next one up. I heard on Love is Blind there's, like, the worst guy ever. He tells the woman. Yeah, he's bad. There's a couple of them. There's a woman, and she's, like, a doctor and really impressive, and then he tells her he doesn't like her because she doesn't go to Pilates. Yeah, I mean, this woman. It's bad. The whole country seems to hate that guy. He has, like, terrible credit card debt that he's never going to get out of, and then he has this doctor that loves him, and she's good looking, and he just treats her like crap. And he's like, dude, what are you going to find? My wife needs to go to Pilates. And he's like, I can take you to the four seasons. And he's also like 5'4", right? Yeah. Yeah. The world hates him. Yeah, his name's Chris. He's from Cincinnati. Everybody on that show is from Cincinnati. People hate him. Yeah. I don't mean to connect him to Billy, but he's also in the lookalike game. A lot of people have said he looks like Billy. You think he looks like Billy? It's on Bonnet Bridge. I'm not making it up. You think he looks like Billy? When I heard someone say it, I thought no. And then when I saw the side-by-side, I was like, okay, I could see how you could come back. So, Chris looks like Billy. Well, Billy has that kind of confidence. Billy is the kind of person who would look at someone and say that. Yeah, someone did a side-by-side on Bonnet Bridge. I'll pull it up. But that guy definitely should not have gone on the show. He became a villain. He became a villain quick. And then finally, Shannon, Guy Fieri. Oh, he does look like Billy. Does he look like Billy? Oh, he does look like Billy. Yeah. Sorry, Billy. You're a better person. In the clip I saw, he didn't look like Billy. He does look like Billy right there. Wow. All right. Maybe Billy will get mistaken for him when we go somewhere. I hope not. And then, all right, finally, Guy Fieri, Shannon. Yeah. is starting on ESPNU, the World Food Fighting League. What? This is a real thing. I think so. I mean, they had a segment on SportsCenter, so unless it was like a fake, I think it's part of their whole ESPN Ocho thing. How do you decide who wins a food fight? Whoever gets knocked out? Knock out, knock out. Yeah, count to three? I would think, though, if you're a restaurant owner, like if you're a chef, is that what you want your food used for is fighting? See, my brain immediately went to that wrestler last night that had to shoot the pizza dough at somebody's face, and a guy fell down because he threw pizza dough at him. Yeah. Is that what the food fight's all about? It's called the Flavortown Food Fight. The Flavortown Food Fight. They're going to throw food at each other. And their teams. When I saw it, I just thought, if there was ever a professional sport that Ryan could go pro with. Yeah, how do you know you're good at that? You're going to throw a turkey leg at somebody at Thanksgiving? I don't know. So I don't know any of the details. I just saw the announcement that the Flavortown Food Fighting League. So these are three shows that are all coming on in the next two weeks. This is a good way to fight world hunger. Just have a show where we throw food at each other. Yeah, that is a very decadent thing to do. Hey, the world is starving. We throw our food at each other. All right, which of those three, the bowling show, the age of attraction, or the food fighting are you most likely to watch? Food fight. It's not even close. Bowling for me. The moment the bowling thing came out. What about you? I would not watch bowling until you said the dude's from Kentucky. I would watch it just for him, I think. So bowling. Yeah. Mario? Age of attraction. See, we split all of them. I think I would go bowling because the guy. Yeah. But I think food fighting is the least interesting. I would do age of attraction next. Food fighting. I don't think I need to see people food fight. I'm really interested in seeing how these bowlers live with no money and just travel together and hope they get a check at the end of it. Well, Kyle Troop from Mount Washington will be a star. All right, let's talk for a second about the news that came out yesterday. So let's go through the timeline. It gets announced via email that Mitch Barnhart is going – so his original contract said if he stayed through January 1st, he would get $800,000 a year for three years to be an ambassador for UK Athletics. he stayed through January 1st. Now, he's leaving June 30th, and he had to give six months notice, which tells me he gave his notice on January 1st, because six months from that is June 30th. So that's a reasonable guess. He gave it on January 1st. For reasons that are not clear, because they announced this via email and did not do a press conference, they raised his $800,000 to $950,000, which over the course they added a year. So it was supposed to be three years. They added a year. It's four. So just in the added $150,000 years, they added $600,000 of salary that they were not contractually obliged to do. Okay? Then they threw in a bonus So I just want people to understand we were not contractually obligated They added a year so that They added $150,000 a year for the first three years. That's $450,000, so add $950,000, $450,000. That's $1,400,000 they added. And then they gave him a $650,000 bonus. So for reasons that are unclear to me, they added $2 million in money to Mitch Barnhart when he is retiring. Okay? They added $2 million that they were not contractually obligated to give. No one has explained that. $2 million. We keep hearing there's a budget crisis with athletics. $2 million. So then I called the university on – or texted the university on Tuesday night. I was like, by the way, is he going to be overseeing in athletics? And the spokesman, Jay Blanton, who's a great guy who I've talked to many times, I believe him when he says it. So this is part of what I'm saying. I like Jay Blanton so much, I do not believe Jay Blanton would lie to me at all. I think he's a great person. Jay Blanton writes and says, this has nothing to do with athletics, and says the money will come from the general fund. Well, that made people a little upset at UK. Because the same day they announced this, they sent an email to the entire university saying budget cuts are coming. Now I want you to think if you're a professor or even just like in the service staff at UK, you get an email that says budget cuts are coming, be ready from Eli Capilouto, and the same day they announce that they're paying this guy a million dollars a year to quit, and to lead an initiative that is not even on their website, that they are creating out of thin air. Linda Blackford of the Herald Leader writes an article where she goes, what is going on at UK? And she points out other times that they've given people like a million dollars to go away, some guy in health care, all this stuff. And she says on the same day that they do this, they're going to announce they're giving away this money, a million dollars a year to Mitch Barnhart. Six hours later, UK calls her and says, no, no, it's not from the general fund. It's from UK athletics. Which, by the way, is the opposite of what they had said to both me and to her. Now, either Jay Blanton, UK was mistaken, which I guess is possible, or they switched it. Which is the more likely scenario. They got the outrage. Yep. And then the money went back into athletics. Here's my point. Whichever one it is, is a disaster. If it's from the general fund, and we are paying over the course of four years $4.5 million to a person to run a career center while telling everyone else at the university there's going to be budget cuts, that's crazy. But maybe equally as crazy would be having someone in an academics position for the university and paying for it via athletics. If he's not going to have anything to do with athletics, why in the world are you paying for it through athletics? It does not pass the Matt Jones smell test at all. It just doesn't. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't have Mitch in some role. I don't even care that he's doing this, whatever. And it has nothing to do with how he's performed as an AD. But from a smell test perspective, If you're going to pay a man $4.5 million, paying $2 million that you didn't even owe him, just seemingly as like a parting gift, you know what it says to me? This is just my opinion. I have no – this is Matt's opinion. I have no basis for it. I think you don't give a man $2 million extra unless you're pushing him out the door. I don't. Why are you giving him $2 million you don't owe him? That is not in the contract. That's not in the contract. Why? Why would you do that? And then turn around and ask people in Middlesbrough for $50 because you need money to stay afloat. But why would you do that? Something isn't right about it. There's something going on. There's no way Jay Blanton, who I've for 20 years interacted with, and he's never one time told me something that didn't end up being the case. He's very well respected by all of us. Very well respected. Yep. You cannot tell me that he just got wrong, the source of the funding. I don't think he did. I don't think he did. I think the information he gave you. They had to have flipped it. Yep. They had to have. Because he didn't just give it to me. He gave it to the Herald leader, too. And then when Linda Blackford writes this article, and shout out to Linda Blackford, and this is why the Herald leader and those entities still matter. Somebody's got to write stuff like that. Yep. She writes it. And then six hours later, it's coming from athletics. And athletics is paying for something that's not even in athletics? Why is UK athletics paying for an academic thing? Because it was never – it was supposed to come from academics, and that's my take. And either way, why did they give Mitch Barnhart $2 million that they weren't obligated to do? Just like bonus money. Bonus money. The only way they could have done that is if they wanted him to go. Unless somebody has another explanation, and I'm willing to hear it, it does not pass the smell test for me. Does it, you all? Oh, not at all. I think it's been crazy since the beginning. I just tell you, the next four years, I might even be on the beat of this initiative because I want to find out if we're getting our 950 worth a year. I can't wait to see the results. That's an expensive job. We're going to get some awesome stuff out of this. And the thing is, UK, Mitch is doing a press conference tomorrow, and he'll be asked about this. But the person that needs to answer this is actually not him. He didn't give it to himself. Who gave it to him? We don't even know. He's not going to turn it down. Linda Blackford says in her article, it could be Eli Capilouto. It could be Eric Monday. Most people don't even know who Eric Monday is. It does not pass the smell test. And I hope Linda Blackford and those folks keep asking. I'm going to keep asking. I don't get it. You cannot at the same time tell the university they're in a budget crisis, the athletics department says we don't have enough money, and then all of a sudden just give $2 million you're not even contractually obligated to give. What gets me, I mean, this is stupid. What gets me, I'm fan first, and I already know they're going to go ask everybody for money, and we're going to have to come up with $950,000 before we can even get to paying athletes. I mean, that's going to be in the budget, and they're going to tell fans We need you to rally around Big Blue. We need the money. And all of us are going to be like, why are we paying him? Go get us a shooting guard with that money. Or go get a GM. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I am saying, though, it does not pass the smell test. And at the very least, UK owes people an explanation. You do not announce the end of a 24-year AD tenure that has been, by all accounts good by email. Do you? No, he deserves more respect than that. An initiative that has no mention anywhere on the internet until yesterday. I mean, when people leave IHART, they at least get cake. Well, like Drew said, it's an important position. This initiative is very important. I can't wait to see all the initiating. I am interested in what that answer is. 859-280-2287. We'll take a break. Be right back, kids. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. 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One person writes, Matt, I agree with you. It smells very bad, but this is what happens in corporate America. This isn't corporate America. This is a public university. That's different. I mean, I don't like when it happens in corporate America. They give people, CEOs, like millions of dollars to go away and whatever. And look, he's owed by the original contract like $2.5 million. Now, you could argue that's a bad contract. I may do that. But unfortunately, we did it for Stoops and we did it for Cal, whatever. But what I'm talking about is they gave him $2 million they didn't have to give him. That wasn't in the contract. That's what smells to me. It's not the original amount of money. That was in his original deal. but it was that they just gave him two extra million dollars and then didn't seem to know where the money was coming from and announced it via an email. To me, that's disrespectful, too. Give the man his flowers, have a chance to, you know, he's done great things here. But I guess they couldn't give him a house in the Bahamas, so the man is just going to give him cash. I can't. If I had been on the air when they give Steve Newton a house in the Bahamas. I think that's better than this. He's at least out of the way. He's not in the room telling people what to do when they take over his job. That's true. Well, I'm going to tell you all, I am launching the UK Sports and Workforce Initiative Initiative, where every month I will ask UK what Mitch Barnhart did, and we will make sure. Nice. The initiative. So on KSR, each month we'll have the Initiative Initiative where we track Mitch Barnhart's contributions, and if it adds up, we're getting a good value on that $950K. You know, like I said, I'm more frustrated with the university than Mitch on this. I mean if you Mitch Barnhart and somebody gives you million you probably not going to say no No But I do want to know why that happened And I will say to you someone needs to explain to me why they gave it to him that doesn't involve them getting something back, which would have to be him leaving. People don't just – universities in a financial crisis don't just give a $2 million thank you. At least they shouldn't. Which is kind of what this looks like. Right? $2 million thank you. Those 10 lower-level basketball tickets ain't exactly cheap either. Why are we paying for his country club membership? I'm serious. Why are we paying for his country club membership? I mean, he probably made close to $30 million over his career. I think he could go get his own country club membership. It does smell. And I'm not, you know, I don't think I'm wrong about that. Who's next? Jack. Jack. Go ahead, Jack. hey um i just wanted to call i have a bone to pick with the city of lexington um potholes oh my gosh i i'm so sick of them i got a call last night from my friend he hit his third pothole um because he commutes and popped his third tire on his way to lexington i went to go help him take it off while we were at the gas station another guy pulled in popped his tire on the same one. Then another guy pulled in, popped both his front and back tire on the same pothole. He called a tow truck. I know him. He called a tow truck. On the way here, the tow truck popped his tire on that same pothole. There's a couple in Lexington. It was nuts. It was nuts. Like, I couldn't even know what to do. Where is this pothole? Just so people know where it is. Where is it? Oh, okay. Newtown Pike, right between the interstate exits of east and west. Oh, my gosh. It's terrible. It's a horrible one. There are a group of children living in it. I know it. I appreciate the call. There was one on Harrisburg. It's a little far from me, but it has a big reputation. And then there's one. Cars will just disappear in front of you into the ground and never come out again. There's just a cave. We'll do anything on this show. We'll do basketball and potholes. We'll be right back. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call TJ. He'll make them pay. Now, more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back, Kentucky Sports Radio. I mean, you know this is an awesome – look at this. They keep coming. They're bringing more. Oh, my goodness. Shannon, the local Coke bottling company here in Middlesboro has brought me eight 12-packs of Mr. Pibb Zero. You should be stocked up for the rest of the year. I'm not – thank you very much. Do you drink that much? I mean, how much do you drink in a week? Well, I mean, I don't drink that in a week, but they don't have it in Lexington. So this is the only time I can get it. So now I can take this on. Eight 12-packs of Mr. Pibb Zero. Thank you very much. How about that? Made three different trips. This is better than anything you could get me because I can't get this. Yes, this is the one thing that you actually get excited about. They bring you Mr. Pibb Zero. They brought in three cases. That's very nice. They brought in three more. Oh, that's something. They just brought in three more. And then they've got water, Cumberland Gap water and Fresca for Mom and Larry. Cherry Diet Coke. I'm going to steal one of those. Well, how about that? That's awesome. Welcome back to Middlesboro. How many is that? So there are, hang on, hang on. There's eight 12-packs of Mr. Pibb Zero. How many Mr. Pibb Zeros do I have? 96? I mean. 8 to 2, 16, K1. That's right. Well done. You've been working on your eights. You've been working on your age. That's exactly right. Where did we stay last night? We actually did stay in a Holiday Inn Express. Thank you. Thank you. Finally, it worked. I did that on purpose so that he could. We did stay in a Holiday Inn Express. We did. I heard Mario really enjoyed it. Yeah. Mario, real quick, jump on the thing here. I want Mario to – Here you go. Take these. I want Mario to – there you go. Talk about real quick before we go to the phones, what it's like to spend a night in a room with Rydlin. Well, it starts off, you know, me and Ryan, we have our conversations. And then Ryan gets a phone call from his lady. And then they talk about an hour. And, you know, their conversations are very, what word should I put? Very flirty. Like give us an example of something he says. They talk about like their dates, what they have coming up. Like he has a big date on Saturday. And where's he going on Saturday? He's going to Somerset. For what? Is it the Edgar Allen Pogue? concert concert yeah he's performing edgar allen poe is kind of dead it's an acoustic set edgar out he's going to the edgar allen poe concert yeah in somerset in somerset it's at the virginia where we had the show in the summer so okay and so then you said so so you said they were very lovey-dovey it made you uncomfortable very uncomfortable i was very uncomfortable. He's very flirty. You know, one of the cameos that you make, it's very similar to that. Like, it's very flirty. And then what happens when he goes to sleep? That's the worst part. When he goes to sleep, it's the worst part. Like, I got probably one hour of sleep last night, and it was just non-stop snoring. Like, I threw my pillow at him. I did. He stopped for 15 minutes, and then he started back up again. And he was talking in his sleep this time. What did he say in his sleep? It was just gibberish. That was when I lost it. I was just Now, you said you yelled at him. I did. I was upset. I'm trying to get sleep, and I'm just hearing him talk gibberish. I've roomed with Ryan many times. The talking in the sleep is new to me. The snoring of that, of course. So, if you were to put on a scale of, like, 1 to 100, how difficult is it to sleep in a room with Ryan? I would probably say 90. I'd probably say 90. 90. Yeah, it was bad. It was nonstop. Like he just kept snoring. And you hit him with a pillow. I had to hit him with a pillow. He'd stop for like 10 minutes and then start back up again. Sometimes I'd make a noise just to remind him that I'm here. And he'd stop for like 10 minutes. So I had different methods. Back when I used to stay in his room, I would stand up and get right above his ear and then go and clap. And he would jump, and then I would jump right back in bed and act like it wasn't me. Did it work? It worked for 10 minutes, and then he'd be right back to it. There you go. But I'd try to sleep in those 10 minutes. All right, well, Mario, sorry you had to deal with that. It's okay. 280-2287. The Guy Fieri food fight competition, people are telling me, is not a fight. It's like they're cooking. No. They're competing against each other. But when I saw it was on ESPN and it was called a food fight, I assumed it was a fight. Yeah, we've got plenty of options to watch people cook against each other. That's not nearly as exciting. Well. But that guy, Fieri, on ESPN. I'm now even much less likely to watch it. It now is definitely third. Who's next? Kevin. Kevin. Go ahead, Kevin. Hi, Matt. First time caller. Who are? What's up? Mario's post about the celebrity doppelgangers for you all on Tuesday. Yes. I'm going to say something that's going to make everybody feel a little uncomfortable, but I think Ryan resembles Brad Pitt a lot more than anyone would care to admit. But I get mistaken for that all the time, so you're not far off. He does not resemble Brad Pitt in any world. There's no world in which he resembles. Or like Douglas and Randy Quaid. A little bit like that, but it was not a crazy threat. I agree. Yeah, you're dead on. I think it's pretty crazy. Call of the day. This is our call of the day we got right here. Appreciate the call. Lou Holtz died. Saw that. Yeah. One of the great fake callers to this show of all time. Maybe the best, fake Lou Holtz. Fake Lou Holtz was an awesome caller. Lou Holtz is a football coach who I first realized when he was at Notre Dame and he was a superstar. And then he goes to the TV announcing and just his list made him great. He and Mark May were on – they were college football for a long time. That's right. He and Mark May. Yep. We watched a video yesterday. I showed it to Ryan and Mario. If you have not seen this video, it's a pretty amazing video, Drew. he is giving a speech to the South Carolina football team. And he's like talking about – I don't even know what the point of the speech is. But as he's doing it, Shannon, he has a newspaper, that day's newspaper, and he's ripping it in half. So as he talks, he rips it in half multiple times. And he gets it down into this little ball, and he finalizes the speech by then taking it, opening it, and it's all together. It's back together. after you've watched him rip it in half. I didn't know he was a magician. I'm sure it's a magic trick, and I'm sure there's a way to do it. I looked under it, and everybody was like, ask Grock, how do you do it? And I kind of don't want to know. I don't want to know. I just thought it was kind of amazing. He takes a newspaper, and he rips it in half over and over and over, and it ends up all together. Have you seen this? I'm looking at it right now. I've seen that trick a lot. He probably got a magic set the night before and learned it. So you're saying it's a trick? Well, obviously it's a trick. I don't want to downplay your excitement. It's a pretty common trick. I can't do it. It's a common trick? I'd say that's one of the early beginning to magic tricks is that newspaper. So you can't do it with a regular newspaper? Well, I don't know how they do it. I'm not trying to downplay it too much. I'm just saying I have seen that trick. Well, it sounds like you're downplaying it. You're acting like it's not impressive. You asked me if I've seen it. I've seen it several times. I don't have the move, but I bet he got a magic set the night before, and that was one of the first tricks that taught him. I was impressed. Yeah, it's way better than a rabbit out of the hat. How'd he do that? Shannon, you're watching it. Isn't that impressive? I think it is, yeah. I mean, he's just a head coach and a magician, apparently. And he does it in front of his whole team. Yeah, and they're impressed. Impress them or motivate them, or what was the point? I think it worked. They're all excited about it. Because in the speech, he's saying, you know, people will try to, I guess, rip you in half or whatever, and then you come together. I like the speech. Like I said, I've seen it at just little magic shows, But doing it for a team, maybe they'll rally them. So, RIP Lou Holtz, Notre Dame, South Carolina, and TV announcer. Was he at Arkansas? He was at Arkansas. You're right. As soon as I got the news yesterday, he died. My brain went to fake Lou Holtz. I was hoping fake Lou Holtz. I don't know what's happened with him. I was hoping he might call today. I'd like to hear one more fake Lou Holtz. He's not called in forever. Today's the day he needs to call in. So, if you're out there or tomorrow, let's just do it. Who's up next? Wintucky Lee. Wintucky Lee, how are you? Good morning, guys. It's good to talk to you, Matt. It's been a long time. Good to talk to you, sir. Yes, sir. Am I the only person that thinks Shannon sounds like the voice on Scream? The prank caller on Scream? I've never heard that. On Scream? On Scream. Scream 7 just came out. Got horrific reviews. Yeah. He sounds like that guy. But anyway, I just want to say how frustrated I am with the fans and the media because Mark Pope, he's our coach. The players love Mark Pope, and it's obvious that he can coach. It's just we might not turn around this year. I hope we do, but I guarantee – well, I'm not guaranteeing it, but I feel it in my heart that we will win the national championship very soon. So let me ask you a question, Wintucky Lee. If next year, let's say if next year we have a year very similar to this year, would that make you question it at all? Matt, we've got to get some recruits in here, and we've got to use the transfer portal. And I think he just needs to get a GM, and this is all new to him. but of course I mean we've got to do better next year but I feel it man I'm telling you we're going to do better next year I like the confidence that we're going to win it all in the next two or three years and I want to say go Big Blue and thank you all so much Go Big Blue I appreciate it I like the confidence there you've got to have that a little bit I will say at some point for all fans we all have a line of what's not good enough If this continues where we're having Wednesday conversations and losing games, we shouldn't. I feel like all fans would get an agreement at some point. Yeah. Two years is early. So, by the way, if Kentucky plays on Wednesday, you know, that game, if it's 7 o'clock, you think fans would make the trip down there so early? I talked to a guy yesterday. He goes, man, I bought my tickets. Didn't even buy Wednesday tickets. I bought Thursday, Friday tickets. I don't have a hotel room until Thursday night. I think a lot of fans have already made their plans set. That does not include Wednesday. Well, it should. It better. Because if we don't win. Now, with all of that said, if we were to beat Florida and a couple things were to go the other way, if Vandy were to beat Tennessee, I think it's Vandy beats Tennessee and Missouri loses to whoever they play, if we beat Florida, we could end up with a double bye. That's insane. Crazy how just the last weekend could change from a four seed and a ten seed That what it is Completely different narratives around the team Completely different narratives based on Saturday outcomes And we play at 4 o Are the other games night games It's all day. All day. Could be any. Wow. 859-280-2287. We will take a break and come back. Final segment here in Middlesbrough. This is KSR. This is Ryder Strong with a podcast called The Red Weather. In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune. 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So if you were to beat Florida and then Missouri loses to Arkansas and Vandy beats Tennessee, or excuse me, Tennessee beats Vandy because we are the tiebreaker on Tennessee, we would have a chance. It's just embarrassing. We're sitting here talking about the fact trying not to play on Wednesday in the SEC tournament. One person writes, Matt, I think it's so sweet that your mom cooked you and your friend's food. Tell her I think that's so nice for a mother to do. Isn't that nice? Very sweet, and I'm going to tear into it again for lunch. Tear into it? Yes, I am. Yeah, I mean, you could just say you're going to eat it. I'm going to tear it up. Half seconds. Thirds. Yeah. Well, I mean, she will like that. She wants you. She gets mad. If you don't eat enough, she'll be like, what's wrong with you? I'll go, you know, maybe I'm just trying to not gain 10 pounds on this trip. But for mom, you need to – what are you looking at, mom? What is that? I don't want to say. All right, 859-2280. My mom's being very emotional this morning, which is very nice. Oh, that's her grandkids. Okay, well, the listeners don't know who that is. 772-774-5254. Tomorrow we are at Paul Miller Ford. Yes, yeah. East New Circle Road. Yes. What's the address? It is right there at the corner of Winchester Road and New Circle Road. 981 Beasley Street. If they don't have parking there, they have it right across the street, and they'll shuttle you over. They'll shuttle you over. They don't have to cross New Circle. We're going to have Sissy Cakes there. Yes. And then Malachi Moreno and Jasper Johnson. Right. So the key is just pull your kids out of school. Why not? There's no reason for them to go to school tomorrow. No, it's March Madness. It's March Madness and getting ready for the Florida game. How are we feeling? Any chance to feel like we could pull off the upset Saturday? I will say there's a chance because you played them well. I mean, we don't do moral victories, but you were at least competitive. You know you can hang with them. And then Ruppering on a Saturday, sometimes things just happen. I mean, the Tennessee-Denham game a little while ago, Florida last year when it was like 11 a.m., I think they can win it. And I'm unlikely to bet that or predict it, but I'm not completely ruling it out. I don't think it's crazy that they could win. I mean, I think they can. I mean, it is Walker Horn Senior Day. They don't lose on Walker Horn Senior Day. You've been waiting to say that. Go ahead and make your joke. You do this every year on Senior Day. It's like one of those. Well, especially this year since it's Walker Horn Senior Day, there won't be a dry eye in the house. What about Otega Owe? I mean, that's Otega Owe and Dinsla Aberdeen. That's a nice Senior Day. But Walker's a Kentucky kid. It means more with that Kentucky on his chest. I thought he was from Texas. Well, he's originally from Kentucky. Okay. Yeah. Kentucky women are losing 36-35 at halftime, so one-point game at halftime in the SEC. Yeah, Georgia beat them in there during the regular season, so it's going to be a battle. Who's up next, Shannon? Richard. Richard. Go ahead, Richard. Good morning, Matt. First time, long time, Lexington native, Fort Myers, Florida, Snowbird. Blessings to your father, Larry. It's great news. Thank you. Question is the smell at the U.K. office over there. Is it public record who signed that updated contract? Well, it's hard to say. Did the board have to approve it? It's a great question. So here's the thing. This is complicated. Yes, if it were university money, it's public record and would have to go through the board, et cetera. However, they've now made the athletics into this Champions Blue LLC that the university says they will release all the information, but it is not clear legally whether they have to or not, and so far I don't think anyone's challenged it. We'll know in the next year or so, but the short answer to the question is yes, they should, but we'll see if they do, and then we'll see, honestly, if media outlets will sue to get it. I mean, this all could have been handled if they had just had an announcement and told people to answer to these questions. Just a quick comment on the current team. I was a U.K. attendee from 74, 78, so I've seen a lot of basketball over my years. And it seems like this late in the season we're getting into foul trouble early in the game, which is preventing us from keeping our bigs uh bigs or the guards out on the floor which i think is upsetting the apple cart do you think we should uh do anything more to try and stay with five and just sub two occasionally yeah i mean i do but then the foul things can be an issue i appreciate the call i mean i'll use the example of aberdeen he got two fouls early but then he only had one foul the rest of the game so especially the guards i feel like ryan if you're a guard you can play in a way where you will not commit fouls. Now, it's tougher for bigs because guys can sometimes run into them and there's really not a lot they can do. But guards especially, I feel like you can say just stop reaching and don't barrel to the back. Think about one thing that's changed in college basketball is how many fewer charges are called. Hardly ever. Almost never now. They don't reward that sliding in like they used to. Thank goodness. That's actually something that's really made the college game better. You rarely, rarely see charges. And with the backcourt guards, Aberdeen got two fouls early, took him out. He only got one foul the rest of the game. He knew. He knows what he needs to do to stay on the floor. Yeah, so I think you should be able to stay on, especially if you're a guard. Who's next? Jake. Jake. Go ahead, Jake. Hey, Matt, a quick comment for you, then a question, and then I'll just hang up and listen. So the PR nightmare yesterday, that was the whole Barnhart situation. But I also kind of want to talk about Buzz Baker a little bit. I know I saw a tweet this morning from Oscar Combs saying that. Yeah, Oscar came out firing this morning. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's just kind of emblematic of that day yesterday. But my question is, you know, with the whole Barnhart, you know, retirement package, is there actual any legal standing for somebody to hire a private investigator or whatnot to actually understand that there's been like fraud committed from taxpayers? I mean, you could, but I don't know that people – I appreciate the call. Really, this is what your state legislature is for, is to find stuff like this out. I mean, that's who ultimately has the oversight over all these entities, the board of trustees and the state legislature. So that's who should know. And then I think if you believe what Linda Blackford says, and she says Eric Monday is a big part of this, he needs to speak. Nobody even knows who this person is. Oscar Combs, by the way, tweeted out, To those who have bombarded me with text overnight, yes, you're 100% correct. My buddy Buzz Baker got screwed by JMI. No other way to explain his departure. There's such a mess on UK's campus nowadays, especially in athletics. JMI's name keeps popping up. Not good, just my opinion. So, there you go. Oscar very well respected from the fan base. Everyone that says it's just us. No, lots of people believe this. Not a good day yesterday in the PR world for the UK folks. Thanks to my parents for hosting. Thanks, great, for Larry to get to see him. We're going to eat some more food, and we'll see you tomorrow at Paul Miller Ford. This has been KSR. That vaping can cause irreversible lung damage and nicotine affects brain development? Nuh-uh. You don't need to gossip if you want to have an open conversation about vaping. So if you want to get tips on when and how to talk to your kids, visit TalkAboutVaping.org. Brought to you by the American Lung Association and the Ad Council. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. 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