Best of NFL News Part 1: LEAKED NFLPA report card NFL GM says Tyreek Hill isn't even worth the VET-MINIMUM

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The Dolphins ranked number one in the report card for the third consecutive year. According to the report, the Vikings ranked second. The Commanders rattled out the top three after the Commanders at one point in time was rated dead last. But the Steelers checked in 32 for the first time on the report card's four-year history. Steelers received low marks, especially facilities. Owner Art Rooney III, I think, or the second? Okay, second, ranked last for willingness to invest in facilities. No surprise, Steelers are cheap. Steelers locker room, which also had a failing grade. Steelers ranked last by a wide margin on the field, highlighted by the need for more investment to increase the standard. Acroshore Stadium grass turf was subject of a discussion after it was particularly torn up during week six between the Steelers and Browns. Ocho? Yes, sir. NFL won the grievance. They're like, you can't release this because you're releasing this in bad faith and you're trying to make our team look bad. Right. But why can't, but I'm just saying, you don't want the players' opinion? You got all these sites that have an opinion. They grade the players, which is third party. Yep. And a lot of people base that, their grades and how they play players, on those grades. So a player that actually plays there to see it day to day, say, you know what? The training facility is not up to par. The craft services, which is the food, is not up to par. Right. The family, where the family resides, it's not up to par. I mean, I'm confused. Why, Ocho? Yeah, listen, that's a good thing. And obviously, you think about it too, right? You think about the owners and what they choose to invest in. I mean, what's most important to them? Obviously, everything starts with the product. The product you're putting on the field. Obviously, along with the product, you want to have the best services for said players to keep everyone healthy, strength and conditioning, nutrition, some of the things that come to hand right away. obviously outside outside of that all the other amenities i think most owners don't see it is as important as as said players which is why those that have bad grades they have them for a reason little ocho yes sir the objective is is to make as much money as i possibly can while spending i look at roi which is return on investment investment yes i invest a little I get maximum in return. If I upgrade my facilities. If I get a new weight room, if I give the facilities where families can come and the kids can come, that's money. I got to pay for that. Talk to me now. No, no, no, no, no, no. I want y'all in them same dilapidated facilities. I expect you to win while we get $400 million from TV revenue. Remember, the cap's only $305 million, so that's $95. You're $95. Already. You're $95 up. You haven't sold tickets. You haven't sold concession. You haven't sold parking. And you haven't sold merchandise. Yeah. And you haven't sold local TV and broadcast. Right. You're $95. Now, okay, you pay your coaching staff. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you all in on your coaching staff at $30 million. You still got 65 plus the five things that I just left added. So at worst case scenario, you're probably coming home with 100 mil. That's worst case. Cowboys, you're probably coming home with 300 mil. But even the worst franchise is coming home with 100 mil. After they pay all the players, after they pay other coaches, that's what you're coming home with. Yep. I mean, that's always been the owner's mindset. That's always been the model for any business, especially an entity of this magnitude. ROI. Can I pay less but maximize more? Always. That's always been the model. It is. Because guess what it is, Ocho? As we see food prices where you go, these restaurants where the prices are going up, guess what's not going up? The employees' wages. So while the prices goes up, we're going to make more. We pay them the same. See, that's how you do it. It's been a business model for a very long time. Somebody going to need the jobs. Yeah, absolutely. Now, there are some jobs, and the people are like, well, why are they coming across here? Why are they coming? because they're doing jobs you don't want to. All I know is when I'm driving side the road and I'm seeing people clean weeds and doing all that manual labor. Yes, sir. They don't really be looking like me. They don't be looking American to me. Right. Because when they be showing them clips of people in the fields. Yeah. I've done that type of work. Yeah. As a kid. Mm-hmm. It let me know I didn't want to do that as an adult. when you go to the hotels, Ocho, who cleaning them rooms? Oh, yeah. It's not us. When you come out here on the strip, who cleaning them rooms? Yeah, not us. So there's always going to be someone in the fast food industry that wants those jobs, even though they're, I don't know what to make. I mean, I see sometimes I go, see, I pass it, paying $15 an hour, we're paying $17 an hour. So I don't know what they, I don't know what the average is. Y'all would have to tell me what, what you make at a fast food restaurant? Because I don't know. 316? 16 and a half. Oh, okay. 16 and a half an hour. You work eight-hour shifts. I guess they work... Do you think they work eight-hour shifts, don't you? Yeah, that sounds about right, huh? Yeah. That's $128. $128. That's about $133, $134 a day. Yeah. I mean, that's good money. That's a little check. Boy, I can imagine what I could have done with $134 a day. Can you imagine? I'm trying to think. You know, I used to work at McDonald's. Obviously, it was my freshman year. My freshman year in high school, there was a McDonald's in Liberty City on 62nd Street, right by the highway, maybe about 15 blocks away from my grandma's state. I worked there my freshman year in high school, obviously, at McDonald's. And I can't remember what minimum wage was back then. And this is way back in 1993, 92. Something like that. Hey, boy. And you know my check had to go straight to grandma. Oh, yeah. Piggy bang. You got to put this up in your bank. You got to put this in. Hey, I got to teach you how to save. $7.25, yeah. Yeah. And somebody say, hey, okay, millionaires. But you see, you look at Ochoa now. You didn't say that when we was coming up. Wait. Hold on. What was Ocho and Shannon Sharp from the ages of five until we made it to the NFL? I didn't make that kind of money until like 94. So I'm just trying to say, see, that's the thing. Everybody look at what they see now, Ocho, but they don't see where we came from. I did everything. I ain't see. Y'all be talking. I did. My working in the fields is documented. I got a question, too. Not only did you work, we all know your story because you talk about your story all the time. I mean, do people think, are we forgetting? I worked at McDonald's when I was at Santa Monica. Unc, I worked at KB Toy Stores in Fox Hills Mall. I worked at Men's Land at Fox Hills Mall. Like, I literally had, I had no choice. My grandma, she, when my grandma, when she hit me with that, when I got thrown out of Langston and I came back home and she looked at me in my face with tears and said, I've done all I can. I washed my hands and I had to go live with my mom in L.A.? I had no choice. I had to survive at that point. Yes. Well, you're a grown man. Oh, so you think you're grown. You got to do grown man things. I see you somewhere to get you education and you still want to do it your way? You know what? I had to get a job. But Hurricane ain't play that? But guess what, Ocho? You nor I thought we were too good to have any job. I never thought a job was beneath me. Man, I ain't doing that. Never that. Never that. I had to work. I didn't have a choice. I had to. How I was going to eat. I know this mom. So what's the normal shift for a fair age? Anybody know? So how long do you work? How long do you guys work in the fast food? So is it like you work six hours, you work eight hours, you work 10 hours? What's a shift at a fast food restaurant, somebody? Anybody that's worked there that knows anything? Because I have no earthly idea. Huh? Eight hours? Okay. Because you working in the field, it wasn't no eight hours. It wasn't no eight hours, I promise you that. Well, you got to work longer or shorter? Yeah, you work longer. In eight hours? Then we got to the point, Ocho, if you finished, like we'd go by the barn. If you finished, you could get off. That wasn't always like that. We would just start. So we would start, say, 7 o'clock, and we'd knock off around 6. You get an hour. So from the time he dropped you off at home, whatever time that was, they were going to come back and pick you up to go back to the field. So from 7 to 12, so we'd probably get off at 12. It all depends. we tried to finish at one end or another. Well, we tried to finish on the end. This area was closer to the truck. You didn't want to finish. You have to walk way down here and walk. So even if we, like, say it's 12 o'clock, I remember Mr. Joe was like, guys, we can make it. And, you know, you get an extra, you know, that's an extra 15 minutes lunchtime. Okay. Our lunchtime scarfed the food down and me and my cousin, my brother, they're playing basketball. Yeah. So it wasn't like no rest. My grandma like, boy, y'all come out of that sun. Y'all gonna have a heat stroke. Did you not see us just come out the field? Right. You ain't say nobody no heat stroke, but playing basketball, you will have a heat stroke. So that's when I'm like, I tell kids today, Ocho, work a lot of jobs because it'll let you know what you don't want to do when you get old. Get older, yeah. Because if you can't do it when you're young and spry and vibrant, you damn sure not going to do that in your late 20s, your 30s, your 40s, and you damn sure not going to do it when you're in your 50s or 60s. Yeah. So work some things work let you know what man man ain no hell Where in hell I want to work 12 14 hours a day If I working 12 14 hours as a kid but a young adult you a teenager you in your early 20s Nah, this ain't what I'm trying to do. Right. This ain't what I'm trying to do. Now, everybody, hey, everybody's not going to be able to parlay and flip that into something more prosperous. Yeah. I mean, you know what's funny too, Unc? Is most of the time, you think about it, we all have to have a plan B. We all have our plan A. Our plan A is what we actually want to do. And the fact that I think about, let's say if football didn't work, if football didn't work out, you know, obviously I still have the discipline to understand and I still have to make a living. I still have to eat. Hold on. I still have kids. So I still would have the structure and discipline to go out and get a job. It might not be the one thing I want to do. It might not be the NFL. Yes. But even if it's not, I still have the ability to go and get a job. I don't see working as being beneath me. Absolutely not. I just don't because I had no choice but to do it growing up. And I did it at places that people would somewhat frown upon. I ain't working in no fast food place. Well, hell, I started at McDonald's. Hell, I did Christmas season at KB Toy Store. That would have been nice to work in air condition. I work in the clothing store at Crenshaw Mall and Fox Hills Mall. Men's Land. I wonder if Sam's still there. Anybody in the chat that's from L.A., I mean, you know what I'm talking about. Man. Six hours. They say they work six-hour shifts at restaurants. Oh, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. Well, here's the thing, though. Ocho, no, it's not bad. But when you're only making $10 an hour, man, let me get all them hours. Let me get 10, 12 hours. I don't like that. I don't like the part. I don't like the part. Now you get a better understanding is the shifts are so short and they don't make enough. Now you get a better understanding of why I've been tipping the way I do the past 20 years every time I go out. it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's tough. And, you know, look, I understand because I've been there. I've been there. Been dirt poor. And, you know, you got to make ends meet. You know, we work, me and my brother, we take half our money. You know, we got to buy school clothes. But we got to help granny pay bills. You know, light needs to be on. Telephone bill got to be paid. Gas bill got to be paid. Sometimes we run short of money in the winter because we're not really working like that. Ocho, hey, we got to pull that we got to open that fireplace up boys, your granny short this month, we're going to have to use the fireplace okay it wasn't like, oh man this is for the birds no you ain't had no other way granny doing the best she can boy, I used to break my heart every time she was sitting because you know Ocho, they send cash we ain't have no checking account we ain't have no money order grandma would send cash to have Sal Libby to send me cash in Savannah State but she would put it in newspaper because you know people gonna hold it up to the light oh they got money in there, you never see it you never see it so my grandma would have my sister put it in the newspaper, my sister put a note and say this all, it ain't much son that's all I got it's $5 man that's all I got, it's $5 Ocho Yeah. Oh, she'd give me a spank and say, well, here, boys, here's some money. Here's a piece of money. She'd give us $5. I get $2.50, spanky get $2.50. Well, spanky go hold on to his. Not Shannon. Shannon's gone. Back then, sodas was a quarter. Honey buns were a quarter. Bag of chips. And back then, bag of chips filled all the way up to the top. Not half the chips and then the rest of the half is air. Yeah. That bulljive they be pulling on us now, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Man, I get me three sodas, three honey buns, two bags of chips. But I tell people all the time, Ocho, the easiest job I've ever had, playing in the NFL. Because you know why, Ocho? Because that's something I really wanted to do. Wanted to do, yeah. I didn't want to clip no damn onions. I didn't want to catch chickens. I didn't want to crop tobacco. I didn't want to bale hay. I didn't want to goddamn load of watermelons. I didn't want to do none of that. Right. The only thing I ever wanted to do was play in the NFL. because it looked fun. And when I saw they was making $50,000, $100,000 in the late 70s. What? Do you know how much money that is from a kid from Georgia that's living in a shotgun shack? $100,000, Ocho? Yeah. Big money, boy. What? You know what, Ocho? I would take you down. I would let you do some of the jobs that I used to do. Come on, man. Come on. Bring me down. But catching chickens have gotten a lot of ease, Ocho, because now what I hear is they got the coops, they got the chicken cages in the house. See, we used to have to catch the chickens. We open the back door. We take a flashlight because it had to be dark because the chickens are huddled up. And we just have a flashlight standing up so you can just barely see the chickens. And you catch three in one hand, three in the other hand. You walk them out. You walk them up. You hand them to the guy. He takes them. Hand them to another guy. that was stacking them. Now, they got them in there. You ain't got to do nothing. They didn't take a forklift and do all that. What kind of bulljive is this? Hey, I need you to take me out there, right? Okay. And have them out there in the field. Wow. Have them out there. Wow. I'm going to put on some cleats. No, no, no. They're in a chicken house. They might be eight, 10,000 chickens in the house. You have to go. But that's also... I wanted the way you did it. I wanted the way you did it. That's the way I did it. Oh, okay. It was in the house. Okay, okay. That's too easy, man. Okay. I don't know, Ocho. Now your back going to be on fire because you got to realize that's a lot of bending over. Yeah. I mean, my back was hurting. Hell, I'm 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. My back hurting. So I can imagine with a grown person that ain't you, boy, you might be in traction. Man, I'm ready, boy. I'm ready. Boy, set that up for me. Set that up. Get the cameras ready. The NFL, the GM report cards. A grade with the Dan Morgan of Carolina, George Patton for the Broncos, Chris Ballard, Les Need, obviously, Adolfo Mensah. He got an A and got fired. John Snyder and Adam Peters. A with DaCosta, A-minus was DaCosta, Brandon Bean, Ryan Poles, Brad Holmes, Nick Casario, James Gladstone, John Spicek, Chris Greer. He got fired too. John Lynch and Jason Light. B-plus was Terry Fontenot, Brian Gutekus, Brett Veach, Joe Hortiz, Elliot Wolfe, and Mike Borgonzi. But here is D-plus, Joe Sean. Sean. Joe Sean. He was the Giants GM. You notice the GMs. The GMs, they got good grades. Jerry got a B. Jerry got a B. Jerry got a B. Jerry got a B. His players get – well, that's the GM. But Jerry, what else did Jerry get a B for? Hey, hold on. Who did the grades, though, aren't they? The players? The players. The players. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, that's amazing. I've never seen actually where players get the grade, you know, the GMs. I've never heard that before. That must be something new. Yeah, they give them every year. They've been doing it for like the last four years where they can't do it anymore. Okay. Hey, I know some GMs, especially those that got bad grades, they probably piss these sapsuckers. they just gave me a D and I'm the one man yeah Brett Beach Brett Beach got a B plus Terry Fontenot, Gunikens Brett Beach got B plus Omar Khan, I don't know how he got a C plus from the Steelers because he ain't found a quarterback yet Duke Tobin got a C Andrew Barry I don't know how Andrew Barry considering he had a defensive rookie of the year and he found Harold Fannin Jr. We'll see what Shador, if Shador is able to parlay the last half of the season and turn that into something positive moving forward, then I can understand why he got the grade that he had. But what about all those other grades? He's been there for a minute. This ain't his first year. But that's it, Ocho. You won't get no more GM grades moving forward. Where's Howard Roseman? Howie should have got an eight. Oh, how he got to be? He got to be. Yeah. I mean, how many GMs got to be? He got to be. Some of these guys, I don't know. I don't know who. Obviously, Eric DaCosta is with the Ravens. Chris Greer was with the Dolphins. Brad Holmes is with the Detroit. Nick Casarios is with the Houston, Texas. Ryan Poles, he's with the Chicago Bears. Les Need is with – Les is with – Not Kansas. No. No, he with Seattle. And Les with Seattle? Or is that John Schneider with Seattle? Schneider with Seattle. Okay, Les Need is with the Rams then. Yeah. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... 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He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. and plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip starting March 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho. Yeah. Remember we talked about it, Ocho. What happened? The Ohio State, they put on a show today. Ohio State, Sonny Stiles, official combine. He ran 4-4-6. He tied for first. The 1.56 10-yard split, tied for first. He set a combine record for linebackers, a 43-and-a-half-inch vertical, which was the best all-time for linebackers. His 11-2 standing long jump was the best in this group. It was the fourth best all-time. Sonny Stiles' profile. He's 6'5", same height as Calvin Johnson. The 244 is three pounds lighter than Derrick Henry. The 4 that he ran is the same as Bijan Robinson The 43 vert is the same as Nate Robinson And well the 13 which is 11 is the same as Julio Jones The other guy, Averill Reese, I think he ran 4.46 as well. So we won that bet because he's supposed to be under 4.49. So we won. Hey, hey, Unk. Boy, the measurables, the intangibles, and the numbers jump off the roof. And when you turn the film on, you get exactly just that as well. I'm not sure where young Bull is going to go, but I guarantee you whatever his draft stock was before the combine, even if it was already high, it'd just climb a little bit higher. I said this. The one thing Ohio State guys can do is they can test. Jesus. I don't know who the strength and conditioning coach is, and I don't know if he went somewhere else, Ochoa Train. Right, right. Because, you know, they got facilities in Florida. They got Arizona. They got Cali. They got Texas. You know, Michael Johnson got a speed camp going. Yeah. I don't know. But all I know is this. Ohio State guys? They can go, boy. They can go. Hey, you saw Reese? Did you see what Ava Reese tested that too? Yeah. Hey, man. And they had Caleb Downs on that. So they had three guys. I mean, they got top guys on that defense. Right. And they had the D linemen. I forget the D linemen, but they got a couple of D linemen. But one of them is graded really high. But 6'5", 244. That's crazy. With those measurables. Hold on. A faux faux, huh? Yeah. A faux faux? At 244. 6'5", Ocho. That's crazy. That's crazy. man. These guys get ridiculous with it, man. These guys get to me. And I think they had like, hold on, they had like four or five linebackers that ran, that ran like sub four or five. That's crazy. Hey, what was, what was Javon Kirsch? You remember Javon Kirsch's stats at the combine? Did he even do the combine? I think he did. You think his stats were probably similar, huh? Yeah, Freak was, Freak was a man. You had to see, I mean, I got him with his absolute apex. Yeah. at his absolute, absolute best because he came in at 99 and I was there in 2000 and 2001. So I saw him at his absolute apex. Oh, yeah. I don't think either Chet might not remember. Y'all remember Chet? Y'all remember Javon Curse? They called him the freak. Oh, my goodness. He was like 6'5". He probably like 265. You got it? I mean, he had crazy measurables. Shredded. Oh, yeah. Yes. yes I seen Freak not too long ago in the airport man he still look the same do it I'm like boy you look like you can still play I seen him at F1 in Miami too like god damn boy hold on at 265 He ran 4.58. He had a 37-inch vertical, a 4.24 in the 20-yard shuttle. But at his pro day, he ran 4.43 at 260. He was even faster. Yep. He was defensive rookie of the year. Obviously, he had 14 and a half sacks. That's crazy. Oh, freak. These guys are getting – you give these guys, Ocho, It's kind of like you give these guys a test. This is okay. This is the exact test. I'm going to give you six weeks. I'm going to give you eight weeks to prepare. This is the exact test that you're going to take. All these guys do is run 40s, shuttle, vert, standing brawl jump, 225. That's all they do. And they take the wonder leg. That's all they do. The exact test. Yeah. They eat, sleep. They work out twice a day. They get the right nutrition. what you're trying to do. You're trying to take weight off. You're trying to gain weight. You're trying to keep the speed. Right. Shakes. Everything is prepared. You probably take out a loan. You know, your agent give you a little bread. Say, look, this one's going to cost probably cost you $20,000, $25,000. You go here and you run 4-4. Got to work. You done made it back. Yeah. Hey, you done made it back plus some. Tenfold. Plus some. Tenfold. It's so funny. Hey, Chad, it's so funny. A lot of players that's going to go to the combine that maybe been overlooked, maybe their film, they don't pop out on film as much as they should, but that 40 yard dash, that 40 yard jazz can change your life. That 40 yard dash can change your life. Depending on what you run, especially you run a staggering time based on the position you play, man, listen, that your life can change in the blink of an eye. If you're not one of those top picks, you know, that, that, that, that is, that is always, you know, on everybody's radar, especially if you played at the Power 5 schools where everybody knows what you can do. But there are going to be some sleepers on that nobody knows about that going to get... When do receivers run? Saturday. Saturday? Man. I can't wait. We won for one? Who didn't pay it out? He ran... No, he ran 4-4-6. Yes. Who didn't pay it out? Oh, okay, you said we won for one. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He panned out. I was like, yeah, because all he had to do was run under 449. Yeah, he ran 446, okay. Yeah. So who we got next? Who we got up next? We got... We got Casey Conception on... The rest of our guys are on Saturday. Okay. Jeremiah Love and Fletcher's back. Okay. No, I think... Yeah, but here's the thing. If you play fast and you don't test fast, they're going to go back and look. They're going to say, okay, he jumps off the screen, so why didn't he run faster? Because normally, look at a guy. If a guy can stand and long jump or he can vert, that means he's explosive. So he's probably going to be really good in the 40. Guys that are good in the 40, they normally, because that's explosive energy. Right. So normally it translates. So if I watch, but at the end of the day now, the tape is the most important thing. Always. All I'm hoping is that boy, ooh, this joker here, he jumps off the tape. Give you a prime example, Michael Parsons. Yeah. Go back and look at Michael Parsons' tape. He jumps off the field. Mm-hmm. Now he comes to the combine. Everything that you saw on tape. It's there. Mm-hmm. Everything. And you know what's funny too, Chad? And why? The combine is so important, especially that 40-yard dash, because you can't teach speed. No. You can't teach speed. I can improve it. You can improve it. Listen, if you a five flat, I can't get you down to 4-4. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't. But when you find those gems, you know, those four twos and those four threes, and they can carry their pads, as they call it, Because there are a lot of people that test fast, but they play slow. Correct. Especially when they put them damn pads on. Yes. Well, God damn, what happened? Yeah. Son, run. I am. Damn. You running? Yeah. Everybody can't carry those pads, man. It's weird. But a lot of times, Ocho, when guys are not, they are fast and they're thinking. Because if you're thinking, you can't play fast. No, you can't. Because you're like, well, damn, am I running? Bro, go, go, go. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And so that's why I say, guys, learn your playbook. Mm-hmm. The only way you can maximize your ability is to know the playbook. Playbook, yeah. Know where you're supposed to go and get there in a hurry. Yeah. He who hesitates beat. Every time. So you can't think. Because if you're going against somebody you think and he's not, he gone. Mm-hmm. He's gone. so uh but the uh those guys them linebackers they they put on the show today yeah 43 and a half inch vert but see here's the thing Ocho that's different than what the NBA tells the NBA let you run and jump they get to run and do it yep man do you know what these guys would do if they would just let them run and jump jump yeah some of these guys I mean uh uh uh boss Bailey I think boss Bailey had like a 44. Gerald Sinsalbaugh, he had like a 45 inch bird. Played with the Cowboys of safety. 45? Yes. Jesus. Yeah. Oh, hey, just standing there? Standing. I think Boss Bailey had like 44 champs, brother. Yeah, Boss was athletic as hell. You played with Boss, right? Nah. Where did Boss go? He might have went to Detroit. He was in Detroit. Yeah. They were in Detroit. Who else had Byron? What was Byron, the guy, the DB from the Cowboys with the UConn? Byron Jones? Byron Jones. That joker's standing long jump 12-3, which is a world record if they were tested. Damn. Yes. Boy, that joker had, he got jackass in him or something. You don't have, You know how far 12 feet is? Hell yeah. From standing still? Unless you know how explosive you are. Yeah. Look at track guys. I bet if you were to test track guys and stuff like that, they're explosive. You see how them jokers get out on Joe? You got to be explosive to get out like that. Mm-hmm. Man. Yeah, but I think Gerald Sinsenbaugh still has the record at 45. Burt. Byron Jones has the record 12-3. Steven Paella got the record in the bench. He did 49 reps at 225. How many? 49. He got 50 right there, Ocho. He got it right there. That's crazy. Do you understand how much endurance you got to have to do that? 50 reps? Hell, once you get to 30, that elastic acid is building up. You get to 40? I saw Larry Allen. I forgot how many Larry Allen did at the Pro Bowl. He was going, man. and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app, Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. 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Not even as a vet minimum guy for us. What? Wow. Vet minimum is a million dollars. Coming out for ACL. How old is Tyreek? He got ACL, MCL, a broken tibia. How old is he, Unc? 31. I think he's 31. He got some juice left. Got a whole lot of juice left. How old is he? He's 31. He'll be 32. He'll be 32 on March 1st. Yeah. Is it March 1st? He's 31 right now. How old is he right now? Hey, Joe and Unc, When I hear owners say stuff like this, I would so love to know exactly where the source came from or who the owner actually is. It was the GM. It was the GM. Hey, GM in general, they're always anonymous. They're always anonymous. I would love to see what receivers he has on his squad where he thinks even Tyreek Hill coming back off injury ain't better than what we got out there right now. I think he would be, Ocho, if he wasn't coming off serious injuries. He's coming off a serious injury. and he's about to be 32 in three days. With that being said, at minimum, I think it's a steal. Now, I'm not going much above that, Ocho. Given what he's coming back off of. What about what he looks like after injury? Well, he did that in week four. Coming in, seeing him wrong. What did he have? We know he had a broken tibia. We know he had an ACL. Were there any other ligaments? whether MCL, whether any meniscus damage, LCL. Yeah, he said motivatorial ligaments. So we know the ACL, okay, guys come back from the ACL. It's those small, and so did they repair it, Ocho? Did they give him a cadaver? how they take part of the patella, cause you know, they take part of the patella tendon and they reattach it. So it's interesting to see what all he had done. They said multiple ligaments. Now we know the ACL. We don't know if it's the MCL, the LCL. We don't know if it's any of those, but we assume that we don't know which other ligaments, corresponding ligaments it is. We know he broke, we also know he broke his leg, the fibula. So it's gonna be, it's an uphill climb, But athletes, I mean, you know, they know, we know how to rehab. We know how to get back. And if there's a will, if there's a way, he'll do it. Yeah. But I do think for a million dollars, I mean, for, cause that's the minimum, Mocho. Oh yeah, for a million dollars, I'm definitely doing it. Now, I don't know if you'll go there for a million dollars, but I'm saying. No, no, no, no, absolutely not. Now, I think he gonna do it right, Duncan Joe um depending on how he looks he'll be back over there with Andy Reid and Mahomes and Eric Biennemi because he's familiar with the system they're going to know how to use him um it'd be it'd be perfect it'd be perfect for him because he doesn't have to be the one to shoulder the burden I just yeah you're gonna be all right it's just the thing is old children man yeah if they ever get a chance to get you while you're down you best believe oh they coming oh they coming that's what I would advise guys be as gracious as you possibly can I know sometimes it gets hard but you always want to give them like you know what he never given anybody any problem he's a great locker room guy he's competitive man when when you coming off an injury and there's like well you yeah thank you a problem in the locker room and you got a lot of stuff going on because they're looking for a reason though they just don't give them a reason oh always looking for a reason and if if there is no reason they gonna create one um it's like as a coach you want to tell us something to listen here don't cut yourself. Let us do that. Hey, that's a classic. Know where you're supposed to be, do what you're supposed to do, be on time. To do, yeah. But you make my job real easy when you don't know what you're supposed to do. You're not where you're supposed to be and you're not on time. You really make my job easy. Make it difficult on me. Thanks. Make it, so I have to like, damn, I don't, you know, look, I understand. I think with a little, you know, with a little time, this guy might turn into a pretty good player for us. Mm-hmm. As opposed to like, nah, nah. I can't do it. So, we wish Tyreek a speedy, speedy recovery. New Ravens head coach Jesse Minter hopes to change players' attitude towards OTAs. He said today, first of all, I do have total respect for the rules that it is voluntary. Totally understand that. And Lamar has an unbelievable success doing it both ways. And so there's certainly a balance there. But I think it's our job is to create an environment and a learning opportunity where they feel like it's really important for them to be there. Ocho? You got a one. What's up? We had sound? We didn't have the sound of that, did we? Okay. What did you think of Ocho? what did Mr. Singh he said uh he understands that it's totally voluntary and he understands right and he understands Lamar's had success doing it both ways but he said I think it's our job is to create an environment and a learning opportunity where they feel like it's really important to them to want to be there hmm yeah I like I like I like it I like the words it's all up to Lamar whatever Lamar wants to do I mean it would behoove him being at his new system as a new officer coordinator uh new coaches um I'm sure everybody I mean they would have a hundred percent attendance even though it is voluntary because I think you know man look I'm trying well uh uh you didn't have a coach because Marvin was there your whole tenure so you didn't have a coach yeah well what no remember I remember I had Dick LeBeau first oh you're right you're right you're right You're right. You're right. You're absolutely right, Ocho. And then you got Marvin. And so as long as you don't change head coaches, because you get changed head coaches, you get three. You get to have three camps. It's going to be in the room. I think Lamar is going to show up just for the simple facts that, you know what, they're working on it. Eric DaCosta, he's like, look, me and Lamar had a great – great conversation over the years. We don't really talk about the contract thing, but I do think Lamar is going to show up. They don't really do anything. They don't do anything. Plus, I think it gives them a head start on learning the offense. It's a totally new offense. Me, I kind of like keeping the same coach because I like the same offense on Joe, so that way I didn't have to show up. Right. That was the only reason I liked the joke because I didn't want to show up. But look, and look they're very motivated to get a deal done with Lamar. Lamar's finna jump he's finna jump Josh Allen we know what Josh got Lamar's finna get that and some. They ain't gonna play with him is it? No no no no no nope cause the faster you can get that done you know the better off things to be around he probably you know new system new coach so you wanna get everybody acclimated and nothing get you acclimated and make you wanna show up, Ocho, like 300 million, huh? L-O. Hey. When a hundred million dollars hit your bank account, damn, y'all really wanted me to show up. I don't mind if I do. Hey, it's a different world. Yeah, hey. I'd have never thought, if somebody would have told me when Fringe the hit back in 93, that was the first year of it. that the salary would get to where they, I'm like, get the hell out of here. These guys are getting contracts for what these owners purchased teams for. I mean, you could buy a team. I mean, back in the 80s, you could buy a team for $60 million. Hey, but hold up. You remember in the NBA coming in as rookies, they used to didn't have no salary. I know. You used to could sign a $60, $70 million deal. Yeah. Big dog, what big dog, What are the last ones to get that contract? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had to put that salary cap on there real quick. Hold on, hold on, before this thing get out of hand. Well, it used to be, oh, Joe, well, you know, it used to be there was no salary cap on rookies. Sam Braffitt was the highest paid player, and he was a rookie. Yeah, and we went to the Rams first, right? And then you know how they did it. They're like, no, you know what? We don't think that's right. We want to put a rookie cap, and that'll keep more bets. and put a rookie cap on the quarterbacks and then cut the vets. Right. Oh, boy. It's crazy business. But no, I think Lamar's going to show up. I think he's going to be very motivated to show up when they give him that Josh Allen money. Oh, we. I'm telling. $250, $260 million guaranteed. $120, $130 at the time of signing. Yeah, I'm going to show up. I go to Steve, you know what? You and I been working great together. Let's continue this relationship. Cause Jamar's 29. Who just ain't Ocho in another four years he can't get another contract? Yeah. Damn, he just 29 for real? Boy, he's young, boy. Yeah, damn. And then, win the MVP, win a Super Bowl, see y'all in training camp. I see y'all for that mandatory one in June. I'm just telling you. I win the MVP, we win the championship. I'll never do an OTAs again. I'll see you in June. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. 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