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But when you add, it's the perfect balance of like some really sharp, witty writing, along with like the slapstick stuff that I think is just so sorely missed in today's world. All right, well, welcome everybody. We've got a very special brunch episode of the confused breakfast. We have Kevin Clancy on the show, otherwise known as KFC Barstool. Now listen, Kevin, I got to tell you, I've been following you forever on Instagram. And I first want to read your Instagram bio, and then I'm going to tell you why it's absolutely perfect. It says, I'm the one minute man, the most relatable voice for internet news and viral content. Follow for daily takes in 60 seconds on stuff you don't want to Google. I think it's important to note that like if an important news story breaks or viral content happens, we've all been there. You start to be like, oh, I should probably try to figure out what's going on with this. And you get on X, you get on Google, you find a news outlet, and you're like, oh, here's a link. Let's see what they got to say about this. And it's pure garbage. Five minutes of like ads and going, did I write this? I actually didn't learn anything from this. You are literally the only person that anybody needs to go to right now for any sort of information. You absolutely are, man. Can the rest of the world hear that, please? Let's go. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. I've, you know, I don't, that was not like my goal to become that person, but like it has, it has, I hope, and I love hearing that. I get often, a lot of people say I get my news from you, which, I don't know if it's good for the world if I'm the news. And I also have some people say like, sometimes I don't even form my opinion until I hear what you have to say. Also, again, good for business, probably not the way you want to live your life though. Yeah, but, but you're very unbiased about it. Like, I know that you have, I know that you believe certain things and go certain ways, but I don't ever feel that. Like, I feel like if, let's say it's some story about two different sides of people, you're going to go after both of them. Be like, that guy sucks, that guy sucks, here's everything you need to know. And I'm like, it's so just important nowadays that we can get our information that way. It's not like I'm hiding my opinion for the sake of being neutral. Like, I often am pretty down the middle in everything, politics, culture, sports. And, you know, I feel like when I started my career, that was kind of like frowned upon. It was considered like boring and you're, you know, you're, you're just placating people, you're middleman. Nowadays, everything's gotten so extreme in all genres, all industries. I think people are actually appreciating someone who's just like, well, you know, that guy was an asshole, but so was he or it was good, but not that good. Or, you know, whatever it might be, I think there's a lot more people out there who are down the middle like that than on either end of the spectrum. So I think in this era, it's, it's resonating more with people. But yeah, it's funny because I used to think like, you have to go one way or the other. And now I think people are craving, although I will say at the end of the day, the grifters who just pick a lane and crush it, like there are every day I wake up like, maybe I should just do that. Get a hundred million followers and a hundred million dollars. But I really, I can't, I've done this too long where I, if I'm telling you something, it is my actual genuine opinion. I'm never just saying it for, you know, the, the attention, the, the traction or whatever it might be. I felt a lot of solace, especially with the hockey and Olympics coverage that you did, because I was, I was all in on all of that, especially the hockey, obviously. And when they won and I, I kind of felt genuinely like, man, this country's kind of great. This rules like I just felt like, oh man, that's awesome. And then the day later, maybe not even a day later, not even a day and watching you, watching your content on that was, like I said, a lot of solace and brought me a lot of comfort because I'm like, God damn it. You can't like anything anymore. Yeah, it's exhausting. That's the thing is like every time it happens, I'm like, here we go again. It's just broken brains on the internet, whether it's politics or some other, you know, just applying these like extreme and kind of important concepts and arguments to everything, hockey, movies, you know, whatever it is, we're seeing it with Chalamet right now. It's like, not everything is the end of the world. Let's just enjoy it or, you know, you know, just don't mix the two like so constantly like it is always now, you know? Yeah, no doubt. So are you in general, like the way we kind of connected, I think was, you commented on a few videos of like classic movies. Are you in general like a movie fan? Are you only one of those classic movie guys? Do you love modern stuff? Like what's your history on movies? I would say in terms of entertainment, I would say I do skew more towards TV. I'm more of like that would be my bag, but I love movies. I entered, you know, TV movies, entertainment is, especially as I've gotten older sports for me. I'm a Mets Jets Knicks fan. It has not been a great run for my entire life. Sounds like the Mets are going to have a good one. But yeah, I've said that a few times, but in my older age, like, you know, I don't watch as much sports as I used to. And that really all my time kind of transferred into TV and movies. I am for sure in everything, music, TV, movies, style, food, whatever. I'm a, I'm a nostalgia guy. I'm a firm believer that I'm a part of the greatest generation and the 90s was peak for humanity. And I think much like my musical taste too. I think there really is something to your formative years, what you're watching and enjoying when you're coming of age is what really sticks with you. So when you asked me, like, what are my favorite movies, I think I rattled off. I don't think anything was probably within the last 25 years release date. That's not to say I don't, there's still a ton of stuff I love currently. But yeah, I'm definitely like, they don't make them like they used to. I mean, we agree with that. Mostly talking about the latest movie that we've covered or like the most recent movie that we've covered is the social network, which is hearkening back to old times, you know, it's pretty much already being nostalgic, you know, but you picked dumb and dumber for this. And I just watching it for this morning, just to kind of refresh and up on him, like, I don't, I don't, one, I don't think I needed to freshen up on it just because it's so in my mind. I was like, I gotta watch it. And then I started it. I was like, no, I don't. The version I watched was like with all of the deleted scenes put in. I did that too. And it really, it really like dours the pacing down a lot, even though they're fun to watch, you know, but like the theatrical cut, I think is the way to go when it comes to that movie. Do you know much about the deleted scenes in there? I don't, but I have a very strong stance on particularly comedies. I think all movies in general runtime got a little out of control. Yes. My friend. Comedies for sure. If you're a movie, if your comedy is over 90 minutes, I think you're fucking crazy. I think when I look at my favorite movies, my favorite comedies, it's the dumb and dumber. It's old school. It's Billy Madison. Yeah. 90 minutes, not and particularly with dumb and dumber. I genuinely believe this. I think, I think it's like one of the greatest accomplishments in cinema. It sounds so silly, but one of my big passions when it comes to movies and particularly awards is that comedy is just like this redheaded stepchild is like forgotten about genre. And I don't know why. I think back to like Shakespeare days, it was comedies and tragedies. Those were the two things. And now, you know, aside from like a golden globe, which is like the comedy musical like, there's nothing to reward comedic performances. And I think that's nuts. I think that what Jim Carey does in dumb and dumber or even like, you know, like the Grinch or some of his other movies that are not like heralded as these amazing pieces of art in terms of like acting and what he's doing with his body, his voice, his delivery. Like, I think it's just as good as any of the most dramatic, theatrical, important, deep movies. It's just that, you know, we're laughing and it's a joke, but I think they are masterpieces that, you know, 90 minutes, perfect performance, timeless comedy. I think that should be way up there in terms of appreciation with all the other types of movies. We've talked about it a couple of different times as far as dumb and dumber goes. And I think you nailed it. I think we've referred to that movie as lightning in a bottle multiple times about how that movie came together. And then not only Jim Carey, which we talked about his performance like Cable Guy was one we talked about recently, how underappreciated his performances in that of what he, the lengths he went to to go and be as outlandish against somebody like Matthew Broderick trying to be kind of that straight man, every man. And then you've got, then you bounce back to dumb and dumber and you hear about like some of the stories of Jeff Daniels getting involved in this. That movie doesn't even happen. That lightning in a bottle doesn't happen without Jeff Daniels playing against Jim Carey. Right. You know. And the whole, the whole backstory of how they wanted it to be another comedian and they were like testing, they were testing him to see if he was good enough. And Jim Carey was the one who went to bat for him. And then Jeff Daniels knocks it out of the park. Like that's like movie lore. That's important. I was shaping an era of movies is, you know, his performance and dumb and dumber. I think all of that needs to be, you know, studied and talked about more. Cause yeah, you know, I think I saw an interview recently with Jeff Daniels explaining that whole dynamic. And he said something, or maybe Jim, one of them said, if it was another comedian, they would have been competitive. They would have been going at it, trying to one up each other. It gets a little, it's not as organic. So like it, you know, the stars needed to align for that movie to be perfect. And the fact that it did. And the, you know, I think I also saw that the Farrelly brothers almost got pushed out. Like Farrelly brothers and Jeff Daniels is like, that, that doesn't work. So yeah, it's got a lot of, there's a lot of depth to it. Well, luckily Jim Carey, cause that famous, I will never see it again in 1994, Ace Ventura, the mask, dumb and dumber. We, Kevin, we will never, we will never, ever see this ever again. No. And, and like, it's the greatest year that a, like a human has had. You know what I mean? Like I tried to think of, like, you know, Pedro Pascal had a big year a couple of years ago, right? Like a few movies and TV shows or like a couple of singers put out a couple albums in a year, but like three of the biggest comedies of all time in a 12 month span when also he was pretty unknown, like it wasn't like established and we're going to go for it. It was like, I'm doing this and doing this and doing this. Oh, they're all classics and all legendary. And thank God, because by this point now, Jim Carey is the most well-known person in the movie business and we will do whatever Jim Carey does as kids. So if, if, if dumb and dumber had come out first, we, he wouldn't have had the power to say, no, it's got to be Jeff Daniels and fairly brothers got to do this. So thank God that one came out at the end because I bet Jim Carey said, you know, it's, if you want me, this all needs to happen in this movie. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, all of it, like from a living color through that run, and then when he does, you know, Truman show and eternal sunshine and like shows that he can really just like act, I, in terms of just the, the, the ability, the craft of acting, what is, who's better than him in turn, you know, again, it's not the, is not doing like World War two movies or, or dying of cancer or, you know, things that are like traditionally so highly regarded in cinema, but the character that he just transforms into like physically and mentally, emotionally is delivery, all that stuff. It's to me, I can't see how, and to me, it's at least like the tide for the best performances of all time. I totally agree. And what they're, what that kind of duo too, it really, really works. Like I, I couldn't see anybody else in the movie because like what he did, or Jeff Daniels did an episode of Frasier and then did speed. He played Harry in speed and then Harry again and dumb and dumber and then did a TV movie and then fly away home. Like it was. They really took a, took a, like, I knew he wasn't established, but I figured, I mean, that's like nothing. That's practically, you know, a rookie. And I heard, you know, he took 50 grand for it, which is like so funny. Like, it's more like taking a bath at that point compared to what Jim Carrey got on, on that production. I mean, it's just like credit to Jeff Daniels too for not having, well, I guess at that point in his career, he wouldn't really have any ego, but the fact that he was willing to put that aside and like prove, prove it to them rather than just being like, if you don't want me, I'm out. And then there'd be a movie magic and really going for it too, because I mean, I think, I think he kind of kept going in about every single day and they were about prepared. It felt like in the first several days of him shooting his, his scenes, basically like I'm doing these and hopefully I don't get replaced. They were almost shooting it. Like they were like, Hey, if this doesn't work out, we've got the, we can backtrack enough that we can just reshoot it again and with somebody new. And that's pressured on top of it. And then finally, I think I just read that like Jim Carrey was just like, you're doing great. And just kind of gave him that, that stern pat on the back of like, let's do this, you know, and it was all downhill. Again, he's not, he doesn't have enough of a resume to really be this brazen, but you're getting paid nothing. You're getting paid 50 grand. You're getting treated like second class. The four of you go audition in a movie that you think is you're already in it. It would probably be easy. And the con, you know, you look at the movie, you're like, all right, it's two guys who are idiots going across country for like a ransom. Like it would have been very easy for another actor to just say, you know what, it's not worth, I'm not worth it. You know, like this is a, this is kind of, you're basically like insulting me while not getting paid for a movie that's probably going to flop anyway. But, you know, for whatever reason, he did stick with it. Thank God he did because it ends up being legendary. He has some of the best lines and moments in that movie, strictly because of what he gets to do against Jim Carrey. Obviously, all the quotable stuff we think of with like, you know, with Lloyd Christmas, but him on the bathroom, how the hell are we getting passed? Like, you, those are the moments, those are the lightning in a bottle moments of, of Jeff Daniels and him bringing it, bringing that to life. Just the faces he makes when he's having the tummy rumbles in the car on the way to the date. It's just like, this is brilliant, man. I mean, yeah. For the fact that, to me, it's like a coin flip. You know, your, your, your opposite Jim Carrey in, as he's about to start his legendary run. And if you really like, gun to my head, like, who's the better, funnier, like more likable character, like, it's probably Jim, it's probably Lloyd. But, he's like right there. And to do that basically as a rookie is like insane to me. Yeah. I, I, okay. So I've got one question for you. I know what this is. Okay. All right. As, as we're, as we're really, as we're really diving in, this is an important, you know, benchmark for us here, Kevin. Who is dumb and who is dumber? Oh, I would say it's funny because as soon as I have like an answer, I think about a moment, I'm like, well, wait a minute. I would say, I think Jim Carrey, I think Lloyd is dumber. Okay. I agree. I think there's a couple moments where Harry is like, he's even Harry is surprised by his stupidity at times or like, question this where he's like, you, you sold it to a blind kid, you know, you're not going to last money, you drove the wrong direction. Like, so a lot of that stuff, I think actually shows that even Harry at times was like, this guy's fucking dumber than me. Extra gloves. Yeah. Extra gloves. Like, yeah. But you know, like, I, you, that's 205. Yeah. You want to keep that one? The only arguments for Harry being dumber are the gloves. Like Lloyd clearly was smart enough to bring multiple pairs of gloves. And also Harry was the one that was like, the town is back. That, you know, he gave them the directions to the town, couldn't pick up on that cue, but Lloyd can't read to he, you know, the, I think that automatically qualifies him as a, the tongue on the freezing pole is all the frost. But yeah, I think I would have to go dumber for Jim Carrey. Yeah. I'm with you. Like I said, they're together, like it being like a road movie too is so much fun. I just love road movies in general until this rewatch. I didn't realize, you know, I was like an hour, maybe like 65% through and they're not even in Denver yet. And I'm like, oh, I never, because I wouldn't think of Dumb and Dumber as a road trip type movie. But the majority of it is two bros on the road in their, in their trucks. So yeah, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, you're fine. It's like the, the, the acts are cut in the thirds in a way that like, are like locations. So they're in like the Rhode Island where they, where they live and then they go on the road trip. So that's the second kind of act of locations. And then they get to Aspen and it's just like, that's so comfy to me. I don't know. I don't know why, but those, those two together, like I said, are so much fun. But then they get their individual moments too. Like you were describing AHA, even like the skis, both of them, like that, that kind of shit is so good. But I was watching it this morning and I'm like, this might be the greatest dream sequence I've ever seen in my entire life with, with Lloyd and oh my God, because it's just what he expects Colorado to be like. Everyone's wearing knit sweaters in a fireplace and stuff, you know, but it's equal parts that he thinks it's also California. So outside it's beautiful, like weather. And then inside they're wearing these sweaters by the fire. So it's like, what is it? When it comes to the dream sequence and he delivers that line that's like, like, I don't know who she is, but I love your ski mask. And it's just like, it's just so bonkers that whole thing. We came in just on the punchline of the joke. Yeah. I thought the subtleties to me are, are in general comedy and movies, everything. I think subtle humor is always the thing that sticks out to me. So like I find jumping into that joke at the punchline and everyone laughing way funnier than pulling the guy's heart out or lighting the heart, subtle delivery. And even the very beginning when, how was your day? And he's like, fell off the tarmac again. And he says, a little things like that to me is like, oh yeah, these guys are incomprehensibly stupid. And then, but, and then again, you just have to build on that. It's like, I lost my job. It's like, you are one pathetic loser. No offense. No, I'm not taking. Just like, or when, when I'll bet you 20 bucks, I'll get you to gamble by the end. It's so good. It makes it like, because if it was just like poop jokes and shit, I don't know if I could regard it as high as I do. But when you add, it's the perfect balance of like some really sharp, witty writing along with like the slapstick stuff that I think is just so sorely missed in today's world. I know I actually didn't see any of these, but I was happy to see the new naked gun coming out and spaceballs reboot. And so some of these like, I think what we totally, and I know this is not a hot take, a lot of people say this, but like the comedy is, is gone in the sense of like, there's no, there's no roles like Jim Carrey's roles anymore, where it's like, you're gonna do it. You're gonna do physical comedy, you're gonna do slapstick. Everything has to be cool. Witty, sharp writing. And it's like, you do need all that, but also just like he's in an episode of In Living Color playing a character. I don't know why that's, that's, you know, disappeared, but he, you know, they, they both did it to perfection. So I think it's that balance of dumb humor and smart humor that makes it really that good. It's Wayday Wayfair. From April 25th through the 27th, you can score the best deals for in and around your home, guys, like up to 80% off with free shipping on everything. 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Add a delicious swirl on top of your drink just like that. Protein never tasted so good with Starbucks new protein cold foam subject to availability while stocks last. Total irreverence to everything, you know, like a movie called Dumb and Dumber is actually very smart. Like the jokes, like the timing and everything is just so, so dialed in. And that goes back to the pacing, the 90 minutes. Exactly. Not a single scene is wasted. Everything is either a very funny, just standalone scene or it is, it's integral to the plot or even like something that seems out of place. They call back to it later and you're like, Oh, that's why we needed that scene. So like, I actually haven't seen the extended cut, but I would, I would probably guarantee it. I'd agree with you that adding in that extra, you know, whatever, half hour, 45 minutes, it's less is more in these cases because it forces you to make sure every scene is effective or important or funny or whatever. I had never seen it before. I had never seen any of these deleted scenes and I found a version online and I'm watching it last night and I'm going, huh? And it, and Sean's right. It, it, they made the right choices by cutting these things out. I'll tell you a few of them. They get to that diner, the excuse me flow scene. So perfect. They're going from joke to joke to joke. But in this one, she like, he goes, uh, here he goes, excuse me, man, my soda doesn't have any bubbles left in it. And the waitress grabs it and blows bubbles into it and hands it back. It's like, yeah, that's, that's funny, but I'm so glad it wasn't in the room. It's really shocking how much it like drags it through the mud. Yep. And Oh, another one, they're in the heart shaped tub, that, that nice little honeymoon. It's the, we get such incredible jokes in that scene that like the John, she sent me a John Deere letter. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention. What's the matter? A little Philly break your heart. I was a girl. I was a girl. Yeah. These are so incredible, but that scene starts off with a Lloyd putting a cup to the wall and listening to another couple have sex. And then there's this weird thing where he kind of like says, I would, I'd fuck you, Harry. Yeah. If you had tits right now or something, I'd split you in half or something. And it's just, they made the right call. They're like, nope. Just right into the hot tub. Talk about Frida Felcher and move on with your life. So it's interesting to watch for anybody out there, but how long is the total theatrical or uncut? It added maybe seven more minutes. Yeah. It comes out to be like an hour 43 or something. Okay. Maybe a little, I'm not sure. So even that, yeah. I mean, like it really shines a light on like the editing team and that some probably unsung heroes of some of these movies that, you know, you get a good or a bad edit can make or break a movie. I was going to say, like it just kind of is that testament to the pacing and that dictates, that is dictated by the editing. Obviously, there's plenty of funny jokes and material that can be had, but too much of a, too much of a good thing is still too much of a thing. And there's a song on the soundtrack. Oh, is that right? Too much of a good thing. See, I knew what I was doing. I got that. But that's, I think it's just a really great testament to that. And like you say, they are these unsung heroes. And I'm sure that that has to be partly in favor with the directing, the, you know, reviewing the dailies, what's going to work, the pacing of something that as much as like seven minutes, we just talked about like the Punisher 2004. I don't know if Thomas James Punisher, if you've seen it or not, they haven't, the extended cut was preferred by a lot of people, even though like I watched some of these scenes, and I found some of these scenes and you're like, these are so out of place, they don't make any sense. It's, they feel very forced and I don't know why we're getting some of it. And yeah, it only adds 17 minutes, but it's like, it's, that's, now it makes the movie feel 20 minutes too long, 25 minutes too long. Especially, yeah, when you start to hit that like two hour range in a comedy, like if you're two hours plus in a comedy, I always go to wedding crashers to me. It's like that. Wedding crashers could have been, and I still love wedding crashers, but like wedding crashers to me could have been like old school, 2.0, like 90 minutes. There's like a whole act of that movie. They're on the boat and like weird shit that it's just like, we could have cut this whole thing and it wouldn't have really changed anything. You know what I mean? Like I'm sure, you know, if you, if you're the writer or you're, you deliver the jokes or something, I'm sure you think all of this stuff is great. And you know, in a vacuum, maybe it is, but in terms of storytelling and trying to get to the end, you need a outside editor to be like, it is good, but it just doesn't fit. There's a different stream. It doesn't fit and it's poorly done. You know, right? Well said. Yeah. So I got a question for you. You are a part of Barstool Sports. You're, you know, a lot of people out there. It's very East coast. You know, you've got a lot of Boston Bruins fans, probably amongst your team. Has anyone ever been able to talk to Cam Neely, who is the president of the Boston Bruins and ask him more about being Seabass in a movie called Dumb and Dumber? You know, I'm a New York guy. There is a lot of Boston people, but I started the New York branch of Barstool. So I don't have the Bruins and Boston connection, but I feel like Cam Neely had to have come across, you know, Dave's desk or somebody at some point. And if, and if it hasn't happened, like we got to get it done cause you're right. Like what, what a cameo. What a role. The role of Seabass, my friend is like maybe one of the greatest like short-term villains of all time. In fact, I've got a little trivia for everybody in here. Everybody knows Seabass's hat that anybody know what it says on there? Yeah, like, fuck I'm 69. Before you give me this trivia, that, that to me, he stood up and I couldn't even read it yet, but I knew it. And I thought to myself, the fact that I, without any hesitation, gun to my head, I could tell you is wine and dime 69. That to me made it me realize just how, how important this movie is that like even these little trivia things I knew right away. But give me, what are you going to say? Okay. So one of his little buddies at the table, four Boilermakers, you know, he's got a guy sitting across from him with a red hat on. I think it's red. Does anybody know what that guy's trucker hat says? Oh man, make America great. It's basically the equivalent of it. But back in 94, this man's hat, I've never noticed until now I paused it. I enhanced it. It says, happiness is seeing your mother-in-law's photo on a milk carton. Is what his trucker hat says hanging out with his buddy, Seabass. Two minutes later when he's, when he's playing the prank on Seabass that they're paying for his bill, you see the book that the cashiers, yes, yes. Of course you're angry, like family therapy for substance abuse or chemical dependence or something like that. Seabass said that. Well, that fellow over there is Seabass. Two feet of butt crack. It's like that sound cut when they're driving away. So what happens in the movie? They get away, Scott, free or something. No, they catch up with you a couple of miles down the road and slit his throat. This is a good one. He could have said like he catches them and kills them or you know, but like slit his throat and he delivers it with a laugh and he did what? You could hear the, you could hear the van speeding up too because look, the little details like that are so good. Like even when he does miss the Aspen exit, the Aspen exit and was Omaha. It says Aspen and Lincoln, Nebraska. It's like, that can exist. Like 300 miles. Yeah. Why would that even be there? What do you think about like revisiting this movie and seeing this Harlan Williams? Cause we just talked about him. We did something about Mary and there's that little Harlan Williams scene where he's the hitchhiker, but I love seeing Harlan Williams in this role. This is the first time I had ever seen him as the cop that pulls him over, but like this whole, when, when he, she's peeing in the bottle and then he hands the bottle over to him and spills it on his shirt. The acting between Lloyd and Harry is absolutely unreal in this scene. And also it's not, it's not Harlan, but he's a part of the scene. Pull over cardigan. It's one of the all time great quote lines in the history of comedy, funny in the history of the like, thanks for his cardigan. Well, and I think the way he says that too though, cause Harlan Williams gets up, gets up next to him and says, pull over. He doesn't say it like pull over. He's like, pull over. And it's just like, no, no. It's like, that's happened to him before. Someone's pulled up next to him like pull over. Oh, I like your, oh, what you wearing there? I have to imagine cause like there are times not to, not to compare like blogging to cinematic masterpiece like this, but there are times back in the day when I was writing a blog for barstool and it was like, I have one line or one joke that I then build like the whole thing out of. And I have to imagine that they were sitting around just making a note like, wouldn't like a pull over cardigan, like, you know, use the word literally be funny. To me, it just seems like that couldn't have like happened by accident and almost as like somebody had that in their mind and would like, let's make sure we put them in a cardigan and we can use this joke because it's, I just don't understand how that would naturally come about. I think it was so, so well done. That's the stuff that we love that movie. It's an interest. That's an interesting point of, how does it come along? Because the amount of improv that also has to be allowed in a movie like this, but also is it something that you can simply build off of by saying, hey, we need a cardigan for, from wardrobe. And it's going to pay off eventually. Trust me. You know, how do you kind of, where do you find that balance? You know, it's like, let me see this in general about the improv scenes. I have a conspiracy theory. I got my tinfoil hat on in modern days. I follow a lot of Instagram accounts such as yours and other ones that give like film facts and trivia and behind the scenes. And it seems like I'm always hearing a story that this scene, this joke, this thing was improvised. It went off script. And, and sometimes I'm like, we're all of the great moments like in movie history, all unscripted and just like, you know, they're genius. Because it seems like I hear that a lot. And sometimes I'm wondering if like, let's just tell the people that was, you know, movie magic rather than like, no, there was just lines and it was delivered. Because I, and Dumb and Dumber, I think one of the improvised ones is the, you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world. They sing on the script. And like, you know, if all those moments truly are an actor in the moment saying, I know what's funnier than this script and I'm going to do it, then I tip my cap. But sometimes I got my tinfoil hat on that, that some of those are embellished or exaggerated because it seems like all of them are always off script. That's interesting. Because yeah, I mean, like we, we have a term for it on this show. We call him Lettuce Moments and it's based off of in the breakfast club when what's Andrew, Andrew Emilio Estevez, he's, they're eating lunch or whatever and he's got his big sandwich and someone like Bender says something and the perfect moment, a piece of lettuce just drops out of his, you know, sandwich. Couldn't plan that. These moments like we call them Lettuce Moments because like they just, the cinema gods are just smiling down on a movie at this moment when it's so hard to make these fucking things. But interesting to think about of that being like more of a publicity kind of thing. Yeah, that was my thought for like, you know, we're gonna get a ton of likes or retweets on so like the modern social media era, or maybe it's just that before we had access to all this information, I just didn't know how many things were unscripted or off the cuff. But man, I feel like every single day I'm seeing something that's like that was, that was, you know, the director didn't know that was coming. Right. I think it's in the middle. I think what I'm guessing technically happened is like Jim Carrey did do that during filming and everybody like busted up laughing and they're like, actually, no, no, this would be a perfect joke. And now let's retake it a few times. Hit it again. Hit it again. Yes. Because there's a few like we just did Cable Guy, like we said, and that when, when Jim Carrey puts the skin of chicken on his face and says, silence of the lambs, like that was legitimately in the moment. He made that up and Matthew Broderick is losing his mind. You can see him laughing and dying. If you're seeing people break in the scene and they still used it, then I think you're like, all right, that was really improv. That to me is like the pinnacle. Like I just think about how confident and talented you have to be, especially when you're once you've made it and you're working like, hey, that that director is an Academy Award winner or that script writer is the best in the business. And I'm going to throw it in the fucking garbage and do it this way. That to me is where you realize like how good the greats are. It's almost like in sports where it's like, I just went rogue and I took the ball myself and scored, you know, 50 points. And it's like, you got to really know that you got the goods when you're surrounded by all this other talent and be like, no, no, no, we're going to do it this way. Or at least we're going to try it my way in addition to, you know. Yeah. Yeah. To take that moment and just like you say, you kind of put it the right way. I'm, I know something funnier right now than the writer who really thought this whole thing out. That's for the last decade. I'm bold enough to do it. Like holy cow. Like, and you know what? That's a good idea. I got a better idea. And yeah. And then we've, but we've also, we've also talked about it that like finally dumb and dumber after like during this run. Jim Carrey is one of those guys that when you get a camera on him, you don't stop, you don't stop the camera. You don't yell cut until he's done doing what he is doing. Until he's left like this set. Just keep the camera on him because the other improv, other big improv moment, right? That we all know is we've landed on the moon, you know, no way. If they would have cut while he's just walking to the door, that's gone. We don't get that idea. You know, it's got to be again, like not to compare it again, but there are moments in bar stool, videos, jokes, whatever. We're filming all day long. And then, then someone makes an off the cuff comment and it's like, oh, and we can't, and you can't recreate it. Cause it was like, it was perfect in the moment. So like always have the cameras rolling on a guy like that. Cause you never know what's gonna come. Yeah, man. I did have a thought this time around that I've never thought about and truly how dumb these guys are. You know, they, they get in the argument and he drives the six of the way across the country in the wrong direction. They leave each other and Lloyd comes back with the bike and he's like traded the van for it straight up. You know, like obviously when he does this little thing in his bike wobble, but, but what I was thinking of like a rational person wouldn't, wouldn't have traded the van for a bike. Like I actually went in and online. I said, how much was this van worth back in 1994, assuming a hundred thousand miles? Somebody said like probably five, six grand. You could have straight up traded that to somebody. Two plane tickets from Omaha to Aspen were $300 a piece. They could have literally got on a plane, flown to Aspen with a like three to $4,000 in their bike. But instead these total idiots are like, this is going to be the greatest bike ride across the country. That's another moment for me, the totally redeem yourself. Yes. In the mist. I wish I could men in black erase myself just to hear that for the first time. What's your hearing? And you know, it's coming, you know, but in the moment you think he's going to chew them out and totally redeem yourself. That's a, that is a blog joke that and what's the other one I always use. There's a couple that I, oh, we got no food. We got no money. Our pets heads are falling off. Recall all boys. Such crunches of mine for my own content. Like whenever the Mets or Jets are losing like 20 games in a row, I use the pets heads or fall. Or the same thing with totally redeem yourself when, you know, somebody does something stupid, but you like it. Those are timeless jokes to me that can be applied to like anything. Well, in that fact, you just brought up to, I do want to bring up too that they are fun to watch comedically, of course, but they, like, they do get across their friendship very well as well. You do just enjoy them being together. And I think that is all is on top of them being like very dumb and not realizing that or even looking into it. They are about the journey, you know, they're more about like being together and getting there this way instead of just like flying a plane there and being all simple about it. They argue along the way, but they're still going to do it together. They'll come back together. They know. And like, especially at the end too, with it's kind of emotional, to be honest, because they just got each other and the song's playing, they're walking down the road. It's so good. Dude, even in the beginning when they're living alone or living together and they're just broke and miserable and like, there is something, there is a emotional part to it as silly as that sounds. That's, I think, all of it, all of those movies, you know, even like Ace Ventura is like so stupid, like a pet detective, but they really flesh out these characters and their storylines to the point that like you're rooting for them or against them. Billy Madison, such a so stupid man, a completely far-fetched idea. You're going to go to high school to get the company, but you end up like really falling into it. And maybe I'm sure there are modern day examples of what we're talking about, but I just feel like they did it so perfect back then that it's not the same. That's a good point actually too, because I think that sometimes becomes the folly of some of the newer comedies is like they insist upon the idea so much, even though it's something that's ridiculous. It feels like, let's talk about Billy Madison, let's talk about Happy Gilmore, let's like some of those, let's talk more about, you know, Ace Ventura, a pet detective. That's an outlandish idea. Like sure, I'm sure it exists, but it's an outlandish idea, but it's not taken to the point of like really in your face, you just have to come along with us. This world exists in this movie. Well, they bring across a compelling actual detective case. Right. They're invested in, you know. And these stories, they feel easy to get invested in because they just believe it. Whereas now it feels more common that they spend time in a movie trying to convince you that it's something that you need to believe in. Or why do that? You know? Like some of, to go back to wedding crashers as an example, like it's funny, but like at the heart of it is like a love, it's a love story. It's, you know, yeah, you're crashing weddings, but the notion of like two completely idiotic guys falling into a ransom plot or a hockey player trying to play golf or Billy Madison trying to get through high school, the inherent plot and framework is comedy, is funny, is an unrealistic stupid thing, but then they're going to make it, you know, seem real or functional enough. And I just can't think of many new ones that are like, I do hear, I wonder this, let me ask you this. If like a dumb and dumber movie came out today, I don't know if I would like it as much. Like I'm trying to just be read like honest about it. If I saw a movie today with the new superstar going like, I might be like, this is so over the top and like stupid. So is it that I was growing up with it? Is it that I love Jim Carrey, that I kind of suspend, not suspend disbelief, but like maybe my standards are lower or is it that they do it better than everyone else? So my standards are there because I do think that like if you were to tell me, watch this movie today, that is complete idiocy, I don't know. Maybe I might judge that harshly, whereas I think dumb and dumber is a masterpiece. So what's, I don't know what that is. It's such an interesting thing to say. In a world of noise and uncertainty, IG is the investment platform that backs you. Take a reflexable stocks, ISA, which gives you the freedom to withdraw funds anytime and replace them in the same tax year, all without losing your £20,000 tax-free allowance. And if that's not enough, pay no commission on your stock shares and ETFs when you invest with IG. IG, trade, invest, progress. Your capital's at risk, other fees may apply, tax treatment depends on individual circumstances and a subject to change. A new dumb and dumber, not like the remake and we don't know. We've never seen dumb and dumber before and now it comes out. That is an interesting take. This generation and the new vibe of entertainment cringes, the ultimate, don't be cringy, don't be uncool. That's why I think all of the comedies are usually like, like I said, the plot is not a comedic idea. It's a normal thing. And then they just try to get you with witty writing and clever jokes. And I love all that too. But there's a fear of, I'm just going to be the guy with the bowl cut and the chip tooth, stupid name doing stupid things. Because then I'm not like the man. I think that people are a little too cool for school these days where you need to get back to like, it almost feels like, I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of these movies that we love were SNL people who like flosser. Because it's like, this is kind of an SNL skit idea that we can just flesh out to an hour and a half. So I wonder if there even, even if somebody wanted to try to pull this off today, like, could it happen? Because it would be cringe or lame or some shit like that. Somebody just said like, I can't remember who the quote was from. I apologize. I feel like it was during an award ceremony. But they mentioned how somebody told them that embarrassment is a very underexplored feeling and notion anymore when being on stage or doing a performance of sorts. Interesting. And it's like embarrassment is a very underexplored emotion, I think is what they said. So I apologize if I'm just completely butchering the sentiment. But it's true though, and it kind of speaks to what you're talking about. It's like, nobody wants to go that far, that Jim Carrey length. But that's where I go back to what I said at the top. Like, at the end of the day, acting is just like, which emotion are you conveying on the screen? And why do we put such a premium on like sadness and or, you know, despair or some of the bleak deeper, quote unquote, deeper things, where it's like, shame and embarrassment from being a total moron on camera to me is just another emotion. Right. And these guys are masters at conveying it. But we just don't put the same weight on that performance. Like, I don't know if you told me you wanted to nominate Jim Carrey for best actor for some of these performances. It's like, in terms of acting, yeah, I think he's doing it. I think when he doesn't lie or liar, whether he's like lying back and forth, yeah, the way he became the Grinch is incredible. All of these things that I think are just as good as like he, you know, lost weight for his role as an AIDS patient, or he he was in the internment camps in World War Two. Like, I get those are more important, but I don't think they're necessarily better when it comes to acting. I think that's what it is for sure is like a level of commitment to the bit. And not because everything like comedy nowadays, it just seems like it's ironic, you know, and it's not fucking funny. It's like, even down to Jeff Daniels to his performance, he's just going for it. And especially like in that scene where he's gonna, that gif that if, if like there was an actor today doing that, you would see a seam there, I feel like with Jim Carrey, he is just going for it. And like you said, they're not cutting and he's not he's not going to be done until he's just feels like he's done with it, you know, not a level of hesitation from him whatsoever. In Pet Detective, when he does the, now let's see that in reverse. It's one of the greatest things ever. You know, it's like why this man is speaking backwards, moving backwards, you know, you're rewinding and fast forwarding your TV. That to me is a physical performance that is up there with any action hero or monologue delivery or whatever other scene. That's just as good. Yeah. If Leonardo DiCaprio can win an Academy Award for the Revenant, Jim Carrey can win for just that scene alone. Like legitimately. Or how about this? Why? Like, why isn't there a best comedic performance? Well, I can tell you why it's because we are firm believers that there has not been a good comedy made since maybe 2010. There was a, there was a cut in the world that all of a sudden now you can't go, you can't say things that you said in the hangover. You can't make, you can't make fun of different races. You can't make fun of sexuality. We all agreed. Oh, no, we can't do that stuff. And they have not, like I challenge you, what's a funny movie made in 2016? Like we don't, what, what did we say the last couple were like forgetting Sarah Marshall? Super bad. Super bad. I think that's not as, which the hangover was after? Hangover was like 08 or 09. And Super bad was 04 or 7 or something like that. So, I'm glad it was 7. I think in terms of like actual pure comedies, because I, you know what, I feel like it became like your comedy was just delivered in like a superhero movie or an action movie. Sure. Has a comedic role. And that might be really funny, but it's not like a comedy. But I just can't, everybody says this. It's a cliche. They're, you know, comedy is dead. They don't spend the money, the budget, whatever. But like, if we're all saying it and all craving it, it's got to be there. So, but that's where I go back to my earlier point. Like maybe if they put out a dumb and dumber, I would go, this is stupid. Maybe it was just like a perfect era, perfect time. And maybe I hate to think this, but maybe it just won't happen again, or maybe not for a long time, everything cyclical. But I don't want to be hypocritical because it's like, I think if you put that movie out, I probably wouldn't go. And then that's, they're like, this is why we don't make it. Exactly. Well, Kevin, you're probably, you were, what, 10, 12, 14, maybe when this movie came out somewhere in that range. 94. You said, right? So, nine. So, I was, I was 12, 13 or something like that. And I mean, like there was something unbelievably special about the mid to late 90s. It was a great time in the world. There was mainly some peace going on there. We kind of, we talk about when you get into the late 90s, the only conflicts we could come up with were corporate America. Like that's what all the matrix fight club is like, ah, we got it. We hate ourselves and our khakis, you know, there was no, and I do think there's some, that's why we were here in nostalgia. We, we were just alive during this time of where people just got to kind of put stuff out there and we all got to talk about it with our friends. And someone said, have you heard about this movie? And you go, no. And then you go, they're like, come over to my house. We rented it from blockbuster. We'll watch it together. And we just don't have that anymore. And I know every generation thinks this about the generations that come after them. And so, when this all first started happening with music, TV, movies, I was very cognizant of that. And I was like, listen, we're just like everyone else. And now there's been enough time and enough evidence that I'm like, I think I'm objectively right when I say my era was better because certainly with music in my mind, I'm a rap fan. So like certainly with rap. And like, I do think there's something to that. It was just, I don't know why maybe it was not the internet hadn't really established. Maybe it was just that the world was more peaceful, whatever. It does feel like it was objectively better and well done and more gripping. Maybe that's silly. Maybe, maybe I'm a boomer or whatever. But I think it's true. Like, I think there's definitely a point to that too. And like nowadays comedy seems like, I think one of my picks would be like a last great comedy to me is Game Night with Jason Bateman. Okay, I'll make Adams truly funny. Jesse Plemons supporting role in that is fucking top tier. Really funny. Check it out if you haven't. But a lot of the comedy nowadays seems like existential with like Robinson. Oh, Tim Robinson. Yeah. And like movie friendship and his show, I think you share company and I think you should leave. It's very existential and very internal and very nervous and very like, you know, almost autistic in a way. It's very anxiety driven. Yeah. And that's where kind of like, everyone's kind of gravitated to and I enjoy it. Of course, I think he's amazing. But I think there's not a lot of movies you can make about that. It's not like a lasting kind of thing. Like you can't really be ridiculous so long in that kind of vein, I guess. I don't know. But here's one question to your original thing. Like, I do feel I have a four year old daughter and a two year old daughter. I do personally believe that in 10 years, I can put on Dumb and Dumber and they'll be like, Oh, this is this is where that goes to your point to where I do think it was just lightning in a bottle because if that movie also came out for real in 10 years, I think we'd all go, yeah, whatever. But, but to show them this 40 years later, they'll still think it's awesome. So that's the only, I think like the only example of that any other time in history that your parents show your kids something that they liked, they go, this is fucking lame, dad. I don't care. I showed my kids, I haven't done like, I think I showed them happy Gilmore and Billy Madison. Pet Pet Detective worried me with the ending with the, you know, why are they mad dad? What are they so mad about? Yeah, I haven't quite shown them, but everything else, all of the sports movies, Mighty Ducks, Little Giants, the year I showed them Rocky, Rocky Four, so some of the action movies. And they say to me like, dad, what else do you got? Show me more of your your content. I don't think that happens. Like, you know, when, when my parents sat me down to try to show me something from like the 70s, I was like, get this out of here, or this music stinks. I think there's a reason why even, uh, like it sounds like this generation, you go out to like a club, the music they're playing is our music, the movies that are being remembered or the stars, they're all getting reboots and remakes because like it was just this golden era, I think I think it was, I don't think it could just, I don't think it's just going to happen again. I think that's a really good point that it's like, it's there, there has to be some something behind and some sort of reasoning behind the idea why they're going back to this stuff to remake, why they're playing it. Why was Cobra Kai so freaking popular among the young kids? Why does it work? We complain, oh, there's no original thoughts. It's all superhero movies and reboots. It's like, well, it works for a fucking reason, man. So until that well is dry, maybe, maybe we need all these people unfortunately like pass away before they start writing original stuff. Because it's like, well, some of it is a little crazy. I'm like, okay, I just saw there's, there was commercials at the Oscars last night. It was like three straight movies that were all remakes. It was like scrubs and then another one, another one. I was like, I don't know if all of these need to be rebaked. Malcolm in the middle. Yeah, that was it. Malcolm in the middle, uh, that one. And then there was a third one that was just like, yeah, we're not even trying anymore. Not even trying. No. And, and, and, you know, and I wanted to kind of say this too on that, just kind of on, on the note, it's like, we're talking about, you know, when was the last great one? I kind of pulled up some stuff. And this, it just, it just happened to jar this thought. But Ted is one that came out in 2012. If you remember that one, uh, Steadic Farland. And I think it is a great comedy. I think it's very funny, but it makes me start to think like, back these movies that we're kind of talking about, those ones are, they're just doing it. And we say like, well, we can't get away with some of the stuff and the content and what we were doing back then. And then now it's like, well, if, if we can't, the only comedies that we're going to get are the ones who are insisting that we do and almost take it really far. And it's like they're doing it on purpose. I hate that. That my, my biggest problem with any content of any kind is if you're being inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory, I can't, we get it a lot of parcel where people say that we're, you know, uh, edgy or, or controversial. And I, at least from my point of view, every opinion or joke I've ever given, I truly mean it or think it or, or came up with it. And if it does ruffle your feathers, like that was not my intent. I think there's a difference with going into it. Like I'm going to send this tweet, make this joke, write this scene, that's going to piss people off. And that's why I'm doing it versus I think this is funny. Oh, okay. I realize I just offended half the population. That intent I think is, is a really big part of it. Um, and when you, there's nothing more like nothing worse to me than being like, let's say this word or slur or do this gratuitous sex scene or whatever, because no one else is doing it. So we're going to go to 11. It's like the fact that no one else is doing it means you could probably keep it at like a seven and it would still be really well received because we're starving for it. Yeah. It seems like we're in an era where we have to justify ridiculousness and dumb and dumber. You never justifies any of that. You know, it just is and you just observe it and you, I mean, you can't not be entertained by it, you know, justifying all that is just like, why it's like, no, but it means this. No, it doesn't. It's sometimes it's just ridiculous for ridiculous. Yeah, there's no deeper meaning. Yeah. I read that uh, that Jim carry on the on the set said something like, and this, this should be like the tag line and should be more, you know, well known. He said like, if there's something dumb in a scene, let's make it dumber. Oh my God. That's the con, like that was the notion behind it was just like dumb things even stupider versus well, it has to be rooted in like reality or have a deeper meaning or whatever. It's like, no, no, no. I wonder, do you think that the internet like that maybe we get our, uh, our fix of stupid silliness from like YouTubers and skits and skit shows where it's like that's, you know, even like Tim Robinson, I think is better off kind of being like an internet character or short form as opposed to trying to try to stretch that into a movie. And maybe when we see that on a day to day basis, like you're not talking about the most talented people in the world, but you see a guy on tiktok who has a running series where he pretends to be his girlfriend or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. And that's just where we're getting that versus, you know, it used to be the funniest people get together for a two hour movie. Um, so maybe that's it. Cause the only thing I think if you're trying to come up with an answer other than it's just lightning in a bottle, the big development in that time was social media, not even just the internet, like the social aspects. So maybe that's where you're getting your comedy from like straight, random people, strangers versus, you know, the big movie stars. I think you're totally right. Like I just came across an Instagram account yesterday that's, it's a series and he just films himself and he says, come with me to take a massive shit in Ikea. It's fucking hilarious. And that would be seen in a movie, right? Exactly. Yeah. I'd be taking a shit, but now it's just... All the quotable vines too. You know, like that's, I think you're right. That's where it went. That ridiculousness is just the short form now. I once had a conversation with the comedian, Ari Shafir, and he pointed out how we have like a lack of, because everyone's got your own algorithm, your own streaming schedule, nothing's even, you know, at the same time anymore. He said like, why, why is it that all of my generation, if, if, if I were to say to you, I'm the man now, dog, like everyone, nobody saw a fighting forester. Nobody, like that movie is nothing, but we, like a lot of people just know that was Sean Connery in a movie scene and maybe it was in the trailer or whatever. These like weird little things that everybody kind of just knew and, and were exposed to. And now there's just so much that like, there's not a common relation. You know what I mean? Like you might have seen one thing. I might have seen one thing. We can't talk about it, but we were all on the same page because it was limited, limited content and limited forms and mediums. So I think that might have just, that might be shaping kind of how the industry is today too. It's like, Hey, did you see that? Did you see the new episode of such and such? And you say, Oh, no, I haven't watched it yet. Rather than the response, what it used to be is like, no, I missed it. I couldn't, I couldn't watch it. Right. Yeah. And so like the idea is like, I'll just get to watch it tomorrow. I'll, but I'll make it a point tonight to go watch it. Well, you couldn't do that. You know, there wasn't enough time or a way to be able to do it. You had to make it a point to consume the content, to consume what you were wanting. The show at a specific time. Yeah. It's seven, seven p a Eastern central, whatever, and we're going to watch it. And did you see it and talk about it around the quote unquote, the hypothetical water cooler, you know, and have that conversation about that piece, that what you watched. Now it's, I'll just get to play it tonight. And we don't have to be on anyone's schedule. Yeah. I don't even care. I'm shows right now, probably four or five shows that I'm consistently watching. And I'm always saying, is that a Friday show? Is that a Sunday show? Is that a Wednesday? I don't know when these shows come out. They're my favorite shows. And I couldn't even tell you the actual release date, because I just get to them, you know, kind of whenever I want to. And, you know, in some ways, that's awesome. Cause you just have the world, your fingertips, in other ways, it kind of kills that water cooler, shared experience, you know, and then the spoilers and all that, you know, it's very hard to have the content around the content, the culture around this stuff is different now. That's why I do enjoy like some of the stuff, like as far as HBO, they kind of do stick to their guns a little bit, you know, a lot of the Game of Thrones stuff. And honestly, pretty much the majority of like their, their series that they do, they do, they, it's a specific time that they drop new episodes, you know, I mean, it's something like that HBO show is always going to be a thing. Yeah. It's great. And so, and then I wanted to bring this up because it almost, it seems very telling, you know, with the movie Base Kittball, if you've seen it, it's, there is a line in there where, where Ted Denzlo says to him, it's like people's attention spans can be measured in nanoseconds now. Very telling. That movie was 2001 or something. I mean, nowadays it's like, even further than that somehow. And it's like, it was just such a telling thing for being 25 years ago that it is people's attention spans, they just do not align enough for people to be able to really want to go sit in a movie theater anymore. I don't know. I mean, my content, when I make my content, I'm making a three minute reel. And there are people who are like, I'm not listening to all that. Three minutes. Yeah. Under 80 seconds, man. I'm guilty of that. Sometimes I'm like, Jesus, there's like 30 more seconds left in this video. You're checking, you're checking to see how much longer you got. I wonder if I could skip about, skip 10 seconds on this. Yeah. I mean, that, that is a very real thing. And also, I mean, so are you guys, are you movie theater goers? I mean, being nostalgic, you're, you're talking about movies that are not in theaters anymore. So a lot of it is, you know, consumed at home, but for new stuff, do you make it a point to go to the movies? I, I'm probably the one that does it the most, I would imagine. I'm seeing new stuff as much as I can. The show does kind of a year. A year who, I don't know, probably more than 40. I want to say something. There's a lot of people at Barstool that like, I tell them they almost should create their own show similar to this. There's a lot of guys and girls here really go to the movies. I, I went to see Marty Supreme. I did a little, I did a little like barbenheimer with Marty Supreme in the house. Not exactly the same level, but like I did, I went, I did that, those two. And then that was the night of the stranger things finale. So I had, I had like 12 hours of the content. But other than that, like I am very much on the couch at home. I'll wait for it when it comes out, which also is strange because it shapes, it changes my experience. Like I didn't see sinners until it came out at home. And by then I was told it's the greatest movie of course. Yep. And I watched it and I was like, uh, okay, I guess, you know, we're just going to agree to disagree on this one. And then every time I say that I get labeled as like racist and I don't know what I'm talking about. Well, yeah. By the time I see the horses out of the barn, like, but had you gone to the theater on day one, you might have actually come out of it going, this is pretty good. Yeah. And like, did that pre-hype affect you? You know, Probably. And I try not to be contrarian, but I know this about myself that if someone's telling me this is the best ever, I'll be like, Oh, I'll be the judge of that, sir. You know, I do think that one particularly like, I just, I think it was a good vampire movie. I think some of the comparisons to Dustle Dawn are accurate. Oh, it's not that I think it's bad. It's just like, there, I mean, there are people here who tell me it was, they think it's the best film ever made. And I'm like, Oh, we got, we got dumb and dumb here. Okay. Dumb and dumbers from 94. But all of this, you know, where you consume it, when you consume it, how you consume it, the length of it, all of this shit, I think drastically changes how you, how you perceive a movie or TV show or whatever it is for better or for worse, whatever it might be. But it's just, it's decidedly different. And I think producers and directors and everybody has to keep that in mind, which probably changes the way you make movies. I have one last question for you regarding dumb and dumber and your content. Is Jim Carrey okay? Is he, is he like alive and Oh, I, I, I mean, listen, any, any of these people are not okay. They're all, I mean, when you're in Hollywood, I'm talking to some of these people and I specifically the doppelganger kind of, yeah, yeah, I think I initially thought that's just like he's gotten a lot of work done and because you see that a lot, like that there is a plausible explanation because sometimes you see people and they have become jigsaw. You know, it's like, whoa. So, but like there was, so I didn't really see the internet's reaction when I first made that video. I was just like, I did the tinfoil hat, like joking saying that it was a doppelganger, but I know people were like, that's literally not Jim Carrey. And I was like, maybe, you know, the eye color and all these things. I don't know. Because I, I've thought about this so much where I'm like, the, the, like, length you would have to go to, to dupe a award show. Yeah. So it's either like, is Jim, did Jim Carrey dupe them? Is he a part of it? Or did someone go rogue and trick them? Or is the award show in on it too? Or, you know, there's so many different variations. And a part of me is like, I just think in order to orchestrate something like that at an award show would be very difficult. Then I go back to like, I don't know, it was some random award show in France. So maybe it would be, maybe if I just picked up the phone, I said, I'm Jim Carrey. I'm coming to your award show. They'd go, oh, holy shit, we got Jim Carrey. Cause we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we got the award show. Yeah. So, uh, the pieces are there to like prove that, of course, this is silly in no way. Or like, I don't know, there could be something there, but the eye color stuff, you know, that got a little weird. That's weird, man. That's, that's not, that's not just like, Oh, I get it. There, you have to, somebody has to explain that to me for me to really believe it. Yeah. Well, dude, I'm got one, one easy last question for you before we go here. Top five sports movies of all time in no particular order. If you don't want to. Okay. Well, I will, I'll give you a few more, but I do have a number one and I, and I love this. I'm proud of this take. I think I'm like, maybe the only person alive that has this take. I think the greatest sports movie of all time is Cinderella man. Really? Okay. I think that movie is fucking perfect. I think it's, it's got some of the best actors, best director, real story, like true story of involving like sports and the great depression and the comeback. And I, I think that movie is, is like just a great movie. And when you put it with the caveat of like just sports, I think that there, I think most movies about sports that we love are really like rooted in the sports of it all. And I think that more has like human interests and life and real life ramifications and all that. So that would be my, my favorite. I love major league. I think is probably my favorite baseball movie right up there with the sandlot. I think remembering, remember the Titans a little bit overrated. I think a lot of people rely on that one. I think one of the worst ones is the blind side. I think that Oscar winner or, or nominated or Sandra Bullock one for whatever was, I think that's crazy to me. What are some other ones? I'm, you know, just happy Gilmore County as a sports movie. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's definitely got to be on the list then. But sports is funny to me because it's either like a deeply moving, like amazing. Some things are bigger than sports, but sports was like, you know, the miracle on ice type thing, or it's, you know, just like silly rookie of the year, a kid broke his arm and he could throw 100 miles an hour. You know, awesome. Very personal. Yeah. Well, dude, it's amazing. We're so glad you took the time to hang out with us. Everybody needs to follow. Please. Thank you, man. You've passed the, uh, you've passed the movie test. You know your stuff. You, you're automatically allowed back after the first one and you got to follow KFC bar stool on Instagram because I'm telling you anything that you need to know about this man has you covered guaranteed. Are you on TikTok and Facebook and all that stuff are mainly Instagram? Yeah, I do best on Instagram, but I'm on all of that KFC bar stool on all of them. Let me get, let me give you guys one more question. If we got, yeah, of course, I'm actually, as soon as I finished this, I'm about to finish a video I was making. It's based on Leo, not winning best actor again last night, but what wins best picture is movie wins best picture. So he's got three best pictures as actor in a leading role, very short list of people. Would you rather be Leo? And granted, it does make a huge difference that he's got the one cause he's got the monkey up his back. He's finally got the one. What would you, would you, you want to be the guy who's always striking out as the, for the individual awards, but at the end of the day has the best movie like every fucking year or, uh, you know, someone's won a few times, maybe Daniel Day Lewis the most, or you win the individual, but like your movies are not as well liked, which one would you rather be? That's interesting. I got an easy one on that. I like where Leo's at on this one, because when Leo is done, his career is over. We will regard him as one of the greatest actors of all time because of his work. Like we are big fans of, um, once upon a time in Hollywood, we think it might be his greatest role. One battle after another, we are big fans of, we loved him in this, maybe his greatest. He's ever been. Uh, yeah. Yeah. You know what? Sorry. Keep going. No, no, no. And I think, um, if like this podcast could win all the awards, but like I didn't win like a host award, I could care less. I am a part of the, the bigger picture and I want what I'm involved with to be popular and good. I also think that's a better storyline. Like dramatic legacy is, would you rather be the guy who, uh, hey, he won the most best actor. That's great. But I'd rather that there's a, every time my name comes up, there's a story of, can you believe he only won once, but he's got 10 best pictures and that, that, that, that, like it almost becomes, it's like a really great athlete who like isn't in the hall of fame. Yeah. Get more talk and remembered more than the guy who is because there's a story. I almost, that's why I kind of liked the shallow mate didn't win last night. Cause I think it, you know, you get motivated and grind and there's a tale to tell for when you finally do win it or, uh, whatever. So I think, and then I took it a step further, would you rather be a guy who has a breakout performance, wins an Oscar and then like the rest of the career is nothing or you're one of those actors who everyone says, Oh, oh, that guy. And you don't know his name and he's never won, but he's in like a hundred movies and has a really great long career. And you're like, Oh, that guy's always the villain or like, Oh, that guy from that thing. So you don't get the personal recognition, but you had a really, like really good career or you're the guy who, you know, got to do the morning shows and the late night shows and the, you had your moment of like being the best, but the rest is blocked. It's my dream to be that guy. Yeah. It's like, Oh man, that's that like anytime he's like, sure, sure. Yeah. Like Kyle Chandler or something like that. Every time I see him, I'm like, man, he makes so much, he makes everything elevated. Yeah. You know, I give me, and I think honestly, my, my direct answer to that is it's probably, you probably got to shave off the last like two years, but basically Jesse Plemons. Give me Jesse Plemons career and I would be the happiest person ever. I'm not sure what kind of awards he's won. Or, you know, I know he got kind of a bit of a snub I thought this year. But then in the same vein, it's like, give me his career. That guy can do no wrong and elevates every movie that he is a part of and TV show. So I think he's about to be, I think you're right, shaving off the last couple of years, because I think he's about to come into his own. Yes. Definitely. Everyone pretty much universally agrees he was snubbed, which I think kind of shows that he's on the right path to get one eventually. But yeah, that being that guy, I think is, is awesome. He very much reminds me of your life. You don't have as much pressure, paparazzi, all that stuff. That's correct. I make movies for living, but I can still go out to the grocery store. I think that's a great life to live. That's the dream. Speaking of one battle after another, the kind of guy, the whatever group that he's trying to get in. Christmas. Yeah, the Christmas Chronicle people. He was, he's in Ghost as a very young man. And he's just like, Oh man, that's him. That's the guy who's just so good anytime he shows up, you know, it becomes the Leo. I want to be one of those actors who embodies the Leo meme where you go. Exactly. Well, you nailed it, man. We really appreciate you being here and we'll do it again. So we'll pick, we'll go Billy Madison next time and just head down the road. 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