Club 520 - Grant Williams on being TEAMMATES w/ Jeff Teague, GUARDING Joel Embiid & Steph Curry, Luka vs. Tatum

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Starting the episode off, man. But you know what it is. Brought to you by Boost Mobile. Listen, everything is changing. Your rent, your groceries, everything going up. Not the game, man. Boost Mobile going to hold you now. $25 unlimited nationwide. Tap in with the family, man. Shout out to Hard Rock Bet, official sponsor of Club 520 and 520 in the morning. And G, listen, B-Hen got these things called Crash Out Parlays. And he hit big yesterday, man. Hit big? Yeah. 251. How much B-Hen? Yeah, like $6,200. It's like ripping cards, man. Now, we always ask our guests on here, obviously active player, man. Has anybody came to DMs or ran down to you about the parlays you messed up for them, man? Two games ago. Two games ago? I was going to say, I shit up, man. I was getting 10 points. I was saying, I had 20 and nine. I was out there with my projector on what it was. He said, you were supposed to get four rebounds. He was doing crazy. Yeah, G, you was bullshitting. You were bullshitting. Respectfully, dog. Respectfully, dog. You tripping. Shout out to Hard Rock Batman. Leader players alone, man. They just doing their damn job, man. Good job. Last and certainly, I'll leave you in a shout out to StockX, keeping us fresh and is set as well. Like I said, I'm your host, DJ Wells. Special guest in the building as usual. Introduce him last to my far left, my dog, Bishop B. here and out the prayer leagues. How you what, Nasty? Cool and Nasty. What's happening, baby? What's up, man? Listen, man. You know, we honorary Charlotte Hornets at heart, G. I don't know if you know, man. Me and B here. It's a lot of love. Yeah, I know. We locked in. Jets did some crazy. We ain't after that. We got to get to that. Yes, sir. We locked in, Grace. Since we here, and we all... Y'all said Jet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect. You was there. He was there. The real Kenny Smith. But we all always say, man, get rid of all you niggas. See, I look at Grant and say, you know what? Grant is, he's a blend. He's light enough to stay on the team. I just always say, get rid of all the dark skid niggas. Man, God. Light can't league, man. I love the Hornets. Me and DJ support the Hornets through and through. I do too, man. Nah, he don't. Nah, that I feel the love right now. Nah, that ain't no love. Still to my right, my dog, Young Nacho, Young Teague. How you what? I'm hype, man. Got my young boy in here. You know, the biggest Hornets fan, Jeff Teague. I'm excited to have my dog on the pod. Listen, man, Charlotte Horn is in the building, man. Also, underrated SEC career. We're going to talk about that for sure, man. Legend. Yeah. That's where the numbers came in. I would say nowadays, you know what I mean? Got to figure it out. Playing the flame. Now, for sure, man. Listen, man, Charlotte Horn is for it, man. Grant Williams in the building. Big dog. Appreciate you sliding on us, man. Appreciate you having me. Like you said, the origin story. Before we get to your origins, man, let's talk about how y'all linked up for the first time, man. I let him go first, and I can tell him. I let him go first. It's the show. The one thing I remember the most is that he's probably my funniest, if not second funniest teammate I've ever played with. Because we played on a team where it was a year that I think we were up and down that year, like beginning of the season. COVID. COVID. Like, it was a lot going on. There was no such thing as, like, man, there was no such thing as anything going on. No fans in the stands. like all we could do was freaking kick it at K-Walks and just vibe shout out to K shout out to K shout out to K and that's how you know the Celtics back then it was an interesting roster me and Jet I always think about this story one of the best stories I got is that I remember I was both going to Brad and being like hey man just don't play us it was like it was me, him, Shemmy and Peyton Pritchard and Brad was just So, like, Kemba just came back, and Brad was trying to figure out, like, what lineups. And, you know, Brad wasn't the type of person to, like, ever confront nobody. Trying to, like, let it happen, you know, let assistant coaches handle. So, like, it got to a point where we would just, every single thing we'd do, we'd have to look over our shoulder. We're like, all right, just choose one. Let's hoop. Like, one person go and see what happens. And I remember me and Jet were just like, yo, just let, choose them. That's great. I'm confused because, bro, you so young. Like, he the old head with no knees. We trying to get activated into the league, bro. Don't sacrifice your plans off of this nigga. He threw. The thing is, what happened was, like, I had just played that last year, and we went to the playoffs, coming to finals, all this stuff in the bubble. So, I came in, I made on some BS. Like, I was tripping that year coming into preseason, kind of felt like I had established myself. So, then I kind of had to earn it back. So, I was like, let me just hoop and stay ready. Like, let me show y'all what I got. You know, go back and forth. I was crazy back then too. So I was wild and cursing coaches out. Yeah, everybody was wild and out here though. It was a bad year. It was a bad year. So like I was just telling them, I was like, yo, like just choose. Let Shimmy play because Shimmy looking over his shoulder every shot he missed versus me. And like at the time, they didn't tell me this until after, but they were like, they were trying to play Shimmy so they could trade him. Ah, that's not me. They just don't, they don't communicate that type of stuff. So like my thing came from us. We were like, yo, like it's killing us all. And then you had Jabari on the bench talking. He was like, hey, just bide your time, young fella. Just bide your time. Shout out to Jabari, man. It was crazy. It was crazy. Man, hell of a origin story, man. Let's get to yours, though, man. Obviously, from Texas, moved to Carolina. Oh, excuse me, North Carolina. What's it like playing for the Hornets, man, and growing up as a Carolina kid? It's great, because I grew up, like, I'm from Charlotte, too. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's, like, I grew up watching K-Walk and the Bobcats and DJ Augustine and Raymond Elves. Gerald Henderson. Gerald Henderson. Darn Bays, boy. Cory McGetty. orange jerseys nasty word 7 wins so like I got friends like we remember bring back the buzz back in what was it 2016 when the Hornets even came back like it's cool to be on the roster and like impact went into a point where like you got a chance to one make the playoffs and two be on a team that like Sean ain't never seen the type of success that we've had yet like we I think other than 1998 and that's before any of us when I was born. Damn. Yeah, make y'all niggas feel old. Facts. So then... So then... We got nine-game winning streak. We win the most games on the road. So every friend that I know growing up in the city is like, yo, they're hype. We got more fans in the arena than I think I've seen growing up. So this is the place to be around right now. This is a gold mine waiting to be struck, I always said, in Charlotte. So it said that two years ago, even when I was talking crap to D. White, tried to tell him that he was making the playoffs two years ago. Let's just say it didn't happen. Yeah. But now we got an actual chance. Yeah, man, y'all doing really good. Bro don't really believe in y'all, but me and DJ always. I ain't fat, I don't believe. I don't believe in the streak, bro. How do you feel about, like, LaMelo not making the All-Star, bro? I'm a little sick just because, like, his stats might not show it just because, you know, I feel like he's not making all the shots right now to the point where his stats are like 40 from three, stuff like that. But our offense runs through and with him. We see our on-off numbers with him on the court. He impacts our winning to a level that it's hard to compare anyone across the league in terms of playmaking. He's a guy that sets up our entire roster. Brandon, I think, is our leading scorer right now for a reason. Con's able to get the shots. He's able to because Melo creates that gravity, getting downhill, kicking out shooters. And we just play fast, man. Shoot a lot of threes. and Melo honestly deserve I think that all-star nod because they put it's just the format this year man the US world like they couldn't do it I love that break boy you might get a job when you done play there was nobody more upset than being I was so shitty bro especially with how we were playing towards the all-star break like I know we didn't start great like we were 4-14 but we were injured like there's a lot of things going on like once we got a healthy roster you start seeing the success of our team and like that was so well put together honestly by JP did a great job shout out to Jeff Peterson yeah my guy did a great job of building a group around one another so I think Dip had a great job of making that all-star nine I think next year we might have two maybe three all-stars depending on how we start the season especially with Khan he came on like gangbusters bro he nice yeah Jeff love we do something but Jeff I think he's rookie of the year it's my vote I've been saying it from the beginning I think he's going to be a co-rookie of the year I hope so he deserves it's going to be Jake Hidd and Grant Hill type. Yeah, they think it's going to be LeBron. I think they go LeBron Melo, though. You think it's going to be LeBron Melo? I think they go for that, bro. You think Hooper going to win? No way. Bro, he is damn near a 50-40-90 season. Crazy. Bro, one of the efficient. Most efficient rookie season, I think, in NBA history. He already broke the single-season rookie record. Yeah, he's crazy. Bastards to the 203s. Bastards to the 203s. Or, sorry, maybe he hasn't broken it. He's about to break it. Yeah. And then fastest rookie to 203s. Fastest player to 203s. Fastest. It just isn't. And watching them play basketball, like, there's not many guys that you play with. You're like, yo, every shot you feel is going in. Like, he's on that level already as a three-year-old kid. And it's funny because that draft last year, they questioned the VJ pick. They kind of were just like, huh, maybe a little bit hot. But both of them players have showed it. Nah, they're ready to hoop for sure. You super hot on Kyle. Yeah, that's one of my favorite players in the league. Man, he's just so efficient. I had that draft day thing when he had his workout. You know, remember the movie where it's like Vontae Mack no matter what? Oh, yeah. to our assistant GM right during his workout. Rontae Mack, no matter what, because I felt like it was either between him or Vijay at that pick. Yeah. Philly didn't pick. Maybe it was to get one or the other. Oh, that's good. I picked a good pick. Hey, that was a great no-be-hand. LaMelo, my top five of all time already. We already tapped in. Y'all love LaMelo. Basketball needs LaMelo ball, bro. Oh, you need players like that. Like, it's a creative, creative mind. Like, play fast, loose, pause. Oh, okay. He just has a good feel for the game. Like, there's not many people like that see ahead like he does. So he does a good job putting teammates in positions to be successful. And I think he honestly compliments every single person on our roster. That is crazy. Oh yeah, B-Han got the ammunition now. Yeah, you got it all. Yeah. I'll be texting you, Greg. You know I got a little morning show over there. I was talking about that. That was a hell of a breakdown. Is that great? Nah, for sure. But back to Greg, man. Listen, like you said, Carolina, y'all, hey, you team, boy. That team CP3 squad? J-O, yeah, my dog, J-O now. At Squitty, Harry Giles, we talked about him early in the morning, so I know injuries kind of changed his trajectory. If you saw Harry Giles in high school, Harry G, one of them was, bro. HG was the best player in our class for a reason. He was over JT, he was over Alonzo, he was over, shit, Josh Jackson was consensus number one, but like, HG, like, if he didn't have his knee surgeries, like, it's hard to imagine he wouldn't be a Chris Webber type of player. Like, he was special. He played with, and then also, like, just to watch. I played against him. He played at Wesleyan back in high school. So that was my, like I played against him and Bam. Those were my matches in high school. So like playing those guys. Did you give them work? Heck yeah. I beat Bam in the state championship. Blew them out by 20. I always joke with Bam because this is where it messed me up my rookie year. I said, man, you haven't beat me much. I beat him in Tennessee, beat him in high school. Grace always called me Bam's kryptonite. Then that rookie year, I played him in the bubble. I think I had a record where I was like two or three games ahead of him in terms of the record. after they beat us in the bubble before we go to the finals, he said, I think I'm up now, nigga. That's crazy. Shout out to BAM. Get your get back. Oh, God. Get back. And the same shit nowadays, too. I'm going to say, he beat me in that last finals run, too. Damn. Yeah, we're going to talk about that, man. Damn. But now, what was that like, though? Did you face any of the crazy teams? Because y'all had a squad in AU. They had a crazy at each gym story. Yeah, what was your role on that team? Oh, my gosh. Role-wise, I was just like, honestly, I don't think I would. I don't know if I started on that team. I think I was behind Q sometimes because that team was loaded. Yeah, sure. Alterique Gilbert, who was a top five-star point guard at the time. He just had shoulder surgery, so he was hurt. He was from the A, so he was nice. We had Josh Okogie, got him in. J-O. Darnell Rodgers, the five-foot three, five-foot-four point guard. Yeah, I remember him. He got buckets, though. He got buckets. He's the reason why they beat Virginia. Yeah. So then next, HG, myself, Q, and Peace Jam stories. We were playing Georgia Stars. We only had one loss that entire EYBL season. So we were one of the most accomplished EYBL teams, whatever else there was. We lost to Georgia Stars by one. They had Udoka, Wendell Carter, Bruce Brown, Jared Harper, like a bunch of names. Peace Jam happens. We go. We don't lose a game. We beat Mocan, which Jonathan Isaac, we beat. each one teach one of Johnson, Isaac, Mo Cam of Trey and Michael Porter. Then we get to that semifinal. We play JT in the Eagles, St. Louis. That was back before Brad Beal Elite. And we were blowing him out. We were up by like 20. Like, damn near. Going to the third, fourth quarter, all of a sudden, Alterique gets cramps. And he's dribbling the ball up the court. Can't we pass half court? Fell over, like type cramps. We turned it over, I think, six straight times. They get back into the game. damn I couldn't dribble who the fuck was coaching though like why didn't John like the jogging John didn't want to take him out because I think I don't know why Darnell didn't play but like it was just one of those games where he was like we're gonna leave him out there he'd like give him some pickle juice whatever else like try and let him hoop because we were up by so much boy he should have did Derrick Peterson yeah right two times in a row it's great I was like John I know it's John too he's a five star recruit too HG was in foul trouble that game too I remember because I think I was either our first or second leading to score in that game and what's it called going down turn it over turn it over turn it over turn it over they get back into the game JT JT hooping of course and we get to the end of the game I score they come back score come down HG gets the ball hits shoots he told him don't shoot it until we have our last shot because we want to win the game HG goes too soon hits the hook right hand hook or I think left hand whoever's hook we think we're about to win the game they call a timeout I get subbed out they put Ian Boyd in we're all on the bench elbow to elbow like we're about to win this game up to go to go to the final to play Georgia Stars again all of a sudden they inbound the ball we took JT away I don't forget the zoo's name Jordan Gilbert Jordan something dribbles the full court double clutch at the buzzer heave game damn man that story no heartbreak they ended up freaking losing by 30 the Georgia Stars with the championship. After that, we were so checked out the rest of the season we went to Vegas and we were just having a good time. He was there for the bobs. At 17 years old. Hey, that ain't bad. Not a bad city to have some foot in it. Not a bad city. All right, man. Conversation good. We got some drinks flowing. Barbie at work today, man. Barbie. Barbie. Work overtime. I watched the pod. I watched the pod. My boy's happy here. Barbie. I'm telling you, Barbie. Barbie. Look at Barbie. Hello. Barbie having a day. I'm good How about you? I got corner three We got the corner three It's the Nanejo I got corner three My boy Lock From the corner three How you gonna hold you? Okay B Appreciate you Corner three All right B Right on B She's all my guests here Boy this drink gonna be All right with the guests here Yeah Corner three All right man Obviously killed in high school Went to Tennessee Was there some other schools That could've got you? Tennessee was the best school I had I was a three star Yeah Like I was thinking I was number 200 and something in class. It was bad. I was chunky, bro. I was, you know, undersized big. I was going to say undersized big tweener. So like this is like, this is right around when Draymond was doing his thing. But like, like people are always like, how do you beat these guys? I was being Bam. I was being like Harry, like all these guys that were like ranked higher than me. But they're like, this dude can't jump. Like not really a great shooter. You know, he's post player. So I remember even Davidson, like I remember talking to Coach McKillop. He said, I'm not never going to give you scholarship offer. I said, why? Damn. He said, because you don't work hard enough. Damn. That was me as a sophomore, junior. I was like, I can't get offered by Davidson. Like, I had my best offer with USC Charlotte. Like, I had. Bumbled that one. Yeah, for sure. Later on, I'll give him credit. Later on, when I went to Tennessee, we play him. He's like, the reason why I said that to you is because I needed you to work harder and, like, I believed in you and we didn't have the resources to support you or something like that. But, like, I think he was still just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did that motivate you, though? for sure motivated to help me because you know I grew up in a family of hoopers quote unquote like my cousin Slim Stoudemire who was nice at Zona that's what he had for yeah his first cousin hey for God he got real fucking fuck he the best shooter in college damn near history I remember that old college all the time Stoudemire's a fucking fuck it he shot better than JJ Reddick that year and they ain't gonna give him look that nigga had a burner yeah big jersey big short wearing that I did a workout with him yeah And he only do perfects? Perfects. Oh, bro. He'll be in the gym for two hours. Okay, explain that for the people who are not too tapping in. If it hit the room or if it don't switch every time, he don't count it. I would be. And he's that person that, as a young kid, you throw him the ball, you can't jam him up. Yeah. Like, as a shooter, like, he was, like, throwing it outside my body. Like, it was like, his workouts back in the day, I'd be amazed by him. Bro, he was raw, bro. We did a workout with him, bro. He was playing for the Hawks. Well, he used to. And he was back in the gym. and he was like, you gonna do the workout with us? I'm like, yeah, we started the workout. He's like, don't count. Shot another one. Don't count. I was like, shit, that shit count for me. Then he kept saying, no, we only counted if it switched, bro. He was in the gym for two hours, bro. I was like, I'm out. Damn, bro. Damn. That's shmatt. But he was hitting every shot. He was like, don't count. I'm like, yeah, that's crazy. So Slim, even Damon. So it was like, that's my other cousin. And it's like, those guys, like my pop played in Venezuela, but like tried to play for the Houston Bullets and those guys back in the day. So like, just grew up in that family. So like, everybody used to always try and be like, you got to score, you got to do this. But I always was like, all right, like I'm more of a passer, you know, where you can solve the game differently. So. Today's show is presented by our sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, Florida Sportsbook. And with Hard Rock Bet, it's always something to bet on. Hoops, hockey, and much more every single night. Plus the same game parlay, the live betting, and the player prop options. Man, tap in. You know you're used to it. Might as well tap in with Hard Rock Bet. And did you know Hard Rock Bet is the official betting partner of the Miami Heat and Orlando Magic? That mean they know ball. And if you haven't signed up with Hard Rock Bet, man, there's no better time than now. Tap in. New signups can get you up to 10 bets with a $50 max. 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And was Daniel Ricciardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip starting March 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I had offers from like Yale, Princeton, all the IBEs. You've always been a smart one. So it really came down to those. And then Richmond was the only other one. And then I decided on Tennessee because I met our strength coach, Garrett Maidenwald. He was like, I can change your body composition, give you the best chance to make in the league. And I was like, all right. Like that was my main focus. And then I told my mom's cause my mom worked for NASA. She of course, black man. That's crazy. Yeah. Black man wanted me to go to Ivy Leagues cause she knows how the world of board works. And so I remember telling her, I was like, I'm going to Tennessee. She didn't talk to her for like a month and a half, two months. But then I told her, I said, I'm a graduate in three years, which then I'm a, if I go back for my fourth year, I'll get my master's. Like I had this plan that I set out and I told her, I said, but also I'm going to go for the MBA. did what I said went three years got my degree got freaking player of the year twice player of the year twice two times talk to them SEC player of the year freshman of the year come on like what made you not lead a first year cause you wanted to graduate so no first year I wasn't so I was only freshman team because Malik Monk I think won freshman of the year and Coach Barnes was like hey like Coach Barnes if you know Coach Barnes he kind of wants his guys to come back but also like he if he thinks you should go he'll try and tell you to go. So he said, like, the reason why you ain't with freshman year is because you didn't work hard enough. So it was the same thing. Like, you didn't work hard enough. Went back that second year and I was like, all right, like, my goal is to get player of the year. And also, like, Coach Barnes, like, that's what you should be. You should strive for player of the year. You should strive to be the best player in this conference. So that whole year, though, I played with an injury. So that whole year, I had, like, a piriformis, like, sciatic nerve thing that I was dealing with that shot down my leg. So played that whole season. even after the year was over was dealing with it like that numbness in my leg couldn't like walk sometimes like there was a couple games that season like remember the lsu game i get fouled in the first half i landed on my back couldn't feel my leg and got subbed out worked on it for a full half came back in that second half and played so then after that season i was like damn i probably should go but if i go test a draft process right now and i'm looking crazy like you look damaged goods and then now you have a reputation so i just stayed at school and then went back for that third year and then came out that third, even though Coach Barnes wanted me to come back for the fourth. Oh, he was wild. Yeah, I was like, I can't do it. What was it like playing for a legendary coach like that? I know there's a lot of expectation from, especially in the college world. Yeah. Barnes is cool though. Barnes is crazy, but he's one of the, like, he's cool for sure. If you guys have any player that played for Barnes, K, like, especially like PJ, KD, any of those guys, they'll tell you, like, I got to save Barnes. Like, Barnes was, like, not cursing. Like, he, I got, like, I was taking my biggest accomplishment for Barnes and making him curse twice at me. But like, he was completely different. Like, he was crazy. Like, he made me, like, I remember there's multiple times him crying tears, workouts, like, running. He'd make you, middle of a practice, go VersaClimber three times, come back and practice. Every time you mess up, go back to VersaClimber. Come back, run to 17, run another 17, run 85-2 to 17. Like, he thought it was a game. So, like, it was to a point where, like, you had to be so mentally tough for him playing for him. If not, you had to go. I ain't gonna lie. Bursar climbing two times, I'm in the portal coach. After that second trip, bro. That's what it was. Think about it. After my freshman year, we didn't make the postseason. He had us do basket track season. We didn't touch a basketball all spring. Damn. We would wake up, come down the hill, and we'd run. Was it like that when you went to college? Like, when you go first summer with him? No. That's what I'm saying. It was bad. You know, I was overweight. I had to get your body right. Yeah, I was in fat camp. Well, then what's fat camp? Like legit fat camp. So I had to work out that morning, 6 a.m., come in, do a whole workout, then go to class, come back for practice, then do a workout post-practice until I got a certain weight. I lost 30 pounds in my first month and a half of being there. How much was you when you went to school? Like two. I'm not going to lie to you. I was like 280. Damn. 270. And I lost weight. So like, if you were coming in, I was like, yeah, I'm great. Gee, I'm probably 13% body fat. Like, I feel great. all of a sudden I get there it's like nah you 17% body fat dog you about 255 I ended up getting the 225 by the end of that summer man that's crazy yeah ain't bad boy that's a hell of a life to live boy yeah it's not fun y'all be making college basketball sound traumatic as shit it is listen this is all stuff that I can talk about now because it's over with but like even like we got to a point we had 5am's and we had one dude break out in the hives during the workout and then we had to cancel it so we got rid of 5am's and that was Quake Parker. So he passed out. We had to wake him up to continue this workout. Like it was crazy. Then lockdown happens because 5 a.m. is good away. Lockdown was every Saturday if you got late to class or whatever else it was, you're in trouble. 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. you had to be in the gym. No devices. Damn. So you was there working out. You had five workouts. You really was just there reading. Did you say the time right? Yeah. You say 6 a.m.? 10 p.m. Hmm. Come out. On a Saturday. Portal. Portal. He can't do that no more. That is illegal. Somebody snitched. I got one away and we backed 5 a.m. It was some wild times, but I always tell these guys. It wasn't Quay, was it? You got a different, huh? So it wasn't Quay. Quay was a big one, boy. He got a big working boy. Quay had been hot. That's the way he told him. 10 p.m., bro. No devices. No phone, no iPad, no laptop. I hate it here. but I'm saying how much working out can a motherfucker do bro why'd they all just growlick as hell when we was playing yeah it was though yeah Admiral Schofield like Admiral Schofield some big shit get it on like that was real boot camp faking my Saturday up like that yeah ain't no such thing as going out that night oh nah oh yeah we was you was still after doing that oh yeah it was I probably had the energy after that fourth time doing that I'll probably be ready for that I've been in Jeff all day We had so many times where guys would be in the lockout together, locked down together. So it would be like eight dudes in lockdown just vibing. We were locked up. Y'all probably be ready to hang something. Let's believe it. Thank you, man. Come on, you see what happened? Freaking niggas. Don't share it to Kobe. Obviously, man, had a great career in Tennessee. Now it's time for the draft. What was that process like for you, man, making that decision, the family, just that summer? Yeah, so went to the draft, said I was declaring, called Coach Barnes from Chicago after the combine. I was like, yeah, I'm not coming back. Had a decent conversation and came down to the workouts. My whole thing about the workouts was I wanted to chase the guys who were projected above me. So I was like, you know what? Like Brandon Clark, like P.J. Washington, like all these guys, these names, they're considered like, people are like, this guy's old, this guy's, meanwhile, I'm the same age as all these guys because I was young. I remember Rick Carlisle when I was meeting with Dallas they were like how's it feel being one of the older players in the class I said actually I'm younger than every junior and sophomore and probably close to young than most freshmen he cursed everybody you know Carlisle is he went crazy but even the draft process I was doing the workouts chasing those guys around I'm thinking like yo I'm killing I'm gonna definitely go top 15 top 20 meanwhile I just realized I brought everybody's value down with me. Like, everybody came down to my area. Like, Brandon Clark was supposed to be top 80 and 21 right in front of me. Damn. Damn. During that process, I was like, there's only one chance I can go in the top like 20 and that would be Orlando at 16. And they were like, we have between you, Nikhil, who went next, and then a mystery guy. That mystery guy ended up being Chumotiki who just came off the ACL that year, who was nice. At least in college. From all of them, right? Yep. Yeah, yeah. And then I was like, okay, I'm not going to Brooklyn. One of my worst workouts that I've had in my life. Then I was like, okay, San Antonio, but they won't draft me at 20. If they draft me, it'll be a 29. So then Luca went Boston. I knew they were trading 20. So I was like, I'm not going there. And then 21, it was between either OKC Memphis. Like they had to trade. OKC, I would have went, but then they traded the pick to Memphis. They took Brandon Clark. So I was like, all right, cool. So like, I'm not going to Boston because I'm, you know, the Boston story about my workout, right? No, not Ellis. Yeah, we're here now. Thank you. Boston workout. So I'm over here, like, of course, smart kid. I'm in the workout. Eric Pascal, me, Brandon Clark. And we're over here. Jay Laranega is the coach. Jay. Yeah, Jay. Tony Dobbins was a video coordinator at the time. Wasn't at Disney yet. Oh, okay. So Tony's leading the workout. We get to this four on four, five on five session. Tony's like at the clipboard. He's like, yeah, like thinking about the play to draw up. And he drew up the play. and he had Brandon Clark in the corner and me on the dunker. I was like, yo, like I kind of touched the clipboard. I was like, you sure you want me in the dunker? Like you'd rather have the guy with the lob throw in the dunker and me in the corner because I could shoot it. He was like, you're right, you're right. So I like took the clipboard, erased it and then drew it up. Oh, wow. So then boom, that happens. Play worked. I'm feeling good. You know, I'm confident. Next thing happens where the like play happens. They're like, all right, cool. Like they're switching everything now. Like we need to play. Tony's kind of holding the clipboard. He's thinking about a play. I'm like I got it grab the clipboard from him he's wow grab the clipboard from him like draw the play think it's gonna be like this is what we gonna do it ain't work so then after that I'm like alright cool I sprained my ankle during the workout um workout happens three minute three minute run at the end as Boston does Danny does and they're like you don't have to run you don't have to run I'm like nah dad I'm running ended up running it got in first me and Casey Ocpala got in first and I think that's the only reason I got drafted there because Jay afterwards, he always, I always joke that he cursed me out. He didn't curse me out, but he pulled me aside. I was like, we don't do that here. Like, you don't take the clipboard out of a coach's hand because I heard that years prior, Kyrie had done that to Brad. Yeah. So I was like, oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially, you can't be doing that. Especially Jay. Yeah, Jay's crazy. This was back when I played with Tennessee because Coach Barnes, Coach Barnes was very like, like he, I definitely did that a lot. It was familiar. I did a couple times at Barnes, and I was like, I'm like, if you got an idea, drop it up, do it. So then I did it, and it didn't work. Imagine going to a job interview and trying to imagine, hey, let me make your job interview. Let me hold that. So then next thing you know, I'm like, I'm not going to Boston. I get a text saying, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations. I'm like, what did they congratulate me for? So I text my agent. I'm like, yo, what's going on? I just got three congratulations texts. He's like, I don't know. I'm like, all right. so I call him like yo what's going on he's like I don't know let me call around actually hold up one sec he's like don't take my word for it but you might be going to Boston at 22 get your phone out just in case so I take my phone out I'm at my boy's house my best friend's house cause I didn't get a draft invited to the green room and I was like alright cool sit there Boston gets drafted everybody goes crazy around me I think it was Danny was the first one to call me and then Brad and then so I was like Going to Boston, which was, I thought I was going to Utah next pick. That was my thought. I thought I was going to Utah at 23. Then they traded the pick. Thank God. That was when Utah was nice, though. That was when they had Donovan Mitchell. They had Rudy. You went to the right team. Yeah, I went to the right team. You were solid your rookie year in Boston. And I had a lot of opportunity to play because, like, that year in Boston, it was me, Shimmy as the really force, and then Gordon Hayward. Gordon was hurt. He hurt the year. Yeah. So I played a lot. Even in the playoffs, Gordon came back. Like, I was still in the rotation, played a lot of backup five because Tice was our headquarter. We had Ennis Freedom. Did we have Ennis that year? I think we had Ennis Freedom that year. Yeah. And then, but played a lot of backup five and kind of made a name through that whole process that rookie year. Man, you getting draft-hatched or homie crib as far? Like, you were just over there kicking it? Just over there kicking it. You didn't have no draft-hunting or nothing? No, it was just literally just like 12. It was like me, my family, him, like a couple of my boys. But, like, we were all just kicking it because it was like, I'd rather do it like I didn't want to do nothing crazy because I'd hate to be the guy that's sitting there like damn was you nervous you might drop to the second round I wasn't nervous I'd go second round but I definitely didn't think I was in the top like 15 20 picks so I was like fucking around and be 30 like yeah the same experience I remember I was supposed to get picked at 17 and when I didn't get picked I didn't know where I was yeah I was like oh it's over I'm about to go second round that's how I felt I was like 22. I was like, I'm not going to Boston. So I started looking at names. I was like, Utah 23. Best chance I got. Not Utah. San Antonio 29. When you start doing that, you cook. You start thinking you cook. Yeah, I was like, I'm cooked. Even in my reaction, you see me, I'm not crying. I'm just like, damn, I'm going to Boston. I got to Boston. I was like, so why did y'all draft me? Because I took the clipboard out of the coach's hand and did my workout. but they brushed it off and they're like just don't do that shit again I already know Jay shout out to Jay that's my guy Jay's crazy what vet gravitated towards you when you got to Boston like who showed you the ropes K-Walk K-Walk's my vet yeah even like I'm gonna say cause like technically the guys I knew most of the guys on the roster JT was best friends with Harry so like we were mutuals already through HG then I was like alright cool then it was K-Walk Brad Wanamaker and OG Brad Gordon Gordon at the time Gordon Gordon's the type of vet though that like do as I do like I'm not gonna pull you along so if you wanna show up at 6am to work out with me cool but like I'm not about to ask you to show up yeah K-Walk was the type to be like anything you got like I'm here for you like damn COVID happened that year I was like I don't know what I'm gonna do cause my lease I can't pay for the lease I ain't getting paid no more and then at the same time like I can't go home to my grandparents or my mom like they 90, 60 something years old. K-Walt was like, come live with me. So I lived with K-Walt the entire COVID until we went to the bubble. So like, and then Smart, of course, was a vet too. But like all those guys were my vets. Like Kimba. Kimba was a great. Kimba didn't embrace you and bring you into his home, bro. That's love, bro. The thing about growing up in Charlotte, I grew up watching Kimba. I remember I told him a story. I said, you came to practice at Providence Day when I was in ninth grade. I remember asking for your autograph. He's like, damn, I don't remember that. but I remember practicing at PD and I was like yeah in the small gym like I walked up to you like it was like a fan moment for me too and then also like to have him as a vet still to this day that's my dog now he's my coach yeah yeah Coach Kemba man Kemba coach Coach Walk what the fuck was you gonna do if Kemba didn't say pull up I was gonna slum it I was gonna go back somewhere figure it out we found out how to figure it out there's a damn Greg's about to be Pursuit of Happiness in the league don't know what your guy is nothing That's insane. That is kind of crazy. I was going to ask what you did with that first shake, but I forgot then. That COVID shit was wicked. COVID was wicked, man. Like, we was over here thinking about the bubble. Yeah. Damn. The bubble was insane, too. Yeah, what was that? Yeah, what was that? I was about to ask you, that was the bubble. I got so many stories about bubble, man. So, so many stories. Don't say too much, Joe. I can't say too much. This the wrong podcast. I can't say too much. Yeah, go to the pivot. What's that? The bubble was crazy just because, like, you play a game after a game. You can't shower. You walk out the locker room. You just played. Yeah. And mind you, there was so much going on in the bubble. And mind you, there was nobody but dudes. It was to a point where they had this one pool where you had the shrimps. Like, you go get shrimps. You go to your room. That was the best food you can get on the bubble because you couldn't order in from the start. You couldn't get no takeout. like I remember the one time dude went to the edge of the bubble got suspended for three games yeah so you couldn't order until like I think we was like 50 days in and they showed the meals I had boy the meals was they delivered them to your room no LeBron LeBron ain't good LeBron had his own had his own room in the top penthouse wine for real no for real he had a house he had a house on the campus speak for yourself stop playing man he had he was like that I knew about that hey remember LeBron Equal Knocks we in there with all grown-ass men and superstars. Don't come across the room. I'm surprised you didn't know that. I didn't know that. Ron legit, he had his own, he had their own setup. That kid was taken care of. Somebody leaks some shit. I said, that nigga Ron special. I'm for that. So yeah, so then next thing you know, we have, that bubble experience was insane. And even just with people like, nah, I can't put my dog out. Like, not my dog. I can't put a guy out like that. Nah. Like, there were some people that hang out in the pool, waiting for it to come down. Like, you know, different energies. You could probably assume who was in the bubble at the time. So it was a different time. The real outtake. That's a rough experience, though. I was at Hoopendough out in that shit, though. Imagine you playing, like, you know, Battle for Atlantis? Yeah. The exact feeling is that with no fans. Okay. So, like, you're in an auditorium, ballroom, court. they put those TV screens around you. That's when it got wicked, where you're like, it was jokes because you look up, you see my pops, my pops had a cigarette damn near in his robe. On the Zoom call. On the Zoom call, I'm over here like, pop, like, text an afternoon and said, pop, you can't be doing this, man. I'm like, I'm just going to be out there chilling. I got this square, nigga. I'm like, nigga, with the robe. With the robe, I'm like, chilling. I say, yeah, this is a different experience. Like, they pumping in crowd noise with the home arena. Like, it wasn't real. Like, I always say the bubble was such an experience that you had people playing out of their minds that never played that way before the rest of their career. TJ Warren is crazy. On my soul, TJ Warren, bubble was one of the coaches when I never played basketball. Bro, he was damn near top in all time. That's hoops because guys ain't have to deal with nothing else besides ball. Yeah. At the same time, it was like, I ain't never seen dudes, like, Tower Heroes pulling up off one leg for three. Hey, everyone. It's Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast. Each week, we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens. Whether you want all the facts on the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie or you still need to wrap your head around the ditty verdict we breaking it all down step by step And we not just lawyers We're also husband and wife. 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Listen to No Grip starting March 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Awesome. Crazy. They're unreal, bro. They feel good. Paul Murray. Crazy. I was going nuts. Vaughn Murray, go. It had to be better than playing in the next year, though. That was terrible. It was horrible. So you ain't in them big old arenas with nobody in there? Yeah. It was dead. Bro, it was so funny. What was that? You remember that game when somebody was talking crazy about a ref and screamed that shit in the game? You could hear everything. And you heard everything and the ref stopped by the bench and was like, you can't talk to me that way. You could hear everything, bro. Our first game, we walked in the stadium we about to play Milwaukee I'm like this shit ain't gonna work I can't even get hyped yeah the vibes JT hit a game winner everybody's going everybody's giving a fuck that's a good shot boy where we going tonight and it's a hell of a shot too man I gave a fuck like oh okay where we going tonight it's like the bubble was definitely better than that second year I can imagine and it's tough because even for me because Peyton Pritchard those guys are rookies so they never experienced fans versus me, I experienced fans for the first half of the season, then dealt with the bubble, and then dealt with the next year. So it was completely different. I'm over here. Bubble times was, I feel like it was a grind, but then the next year it felt like literally the entire season was just tossed into the ground. I didn't want to be there. That shit was over with. Didn't nobody want to be there, though. Bro, we had COVID. What was that game? We had Joe Johnson, Justin Jackson. Oh, I had left then. No, no, no. It was before you left. Nah, I was gone. When Joe got there. Joe wasn't there. I mean, he wasn't there. I left. But I remember we had to sit one time. We had to do the COVID test and then, like, malfunction. And we had to be there for, like, sit out there for, like, 50 minutes and wait. Like, they'd start bringing you food. Wow. We just sit there and wait for COVID. Is that before you got on that shit? The thing that had to pass the COVID? Hey, don't tell nobody. Nigga, I was clear. I was clear. I was clear. I was a real LeVar I was a real LeVar LeVar is crazy Hey guys Let's get through there bro I know this is a sidetrack BN we gonna talk about later Yeah LeVar is the greatest Powerful of all time I told you I don't care what nobody says I told you He's solidified He said I said the votes Coked out summers in the world He said I was insane He said I had some fun Them summers I said kill them Y'all talking to an addict. That's not funny. He's a real addict. That's not funny. That's not funny, but the way he was... Lamar is a wild boy. He said, I had some... To say I had some fun times in the summer coming out, you can't say that, Lamar. On God, Lamar lied. You definitely hit that powder door to see me. That's too long to be playing. Greg, don't sneak on it. I'm just saying that. He definitely did. He was lying, bro. He definitely did. Yeah, with some respect. All them guys back in the day, I feel like was. No, not in the 2000s. Nah, he ain't even that old, though. Yeah, he missed a list. You remember John Starks on the... Yeah. See? That's G. Let's revisit that. Y'all revisit it. They don't remember it either. That was a wild interview. That's a wild interview. I ain't never seen nobody tweet out like that. I've seen people lay down, like, chill. No, no, no. You seen that? What is this? That is not it, Mike. You'll see it at the beginning. Look at the bottom left. Oh. That was powder? What you think it was, man? Nah, bro. That was the momentum, bro. A dude shooting a half-court shot. That's the drill. He wasn't going to fight. There wasn't no contests. I don't want to say that you're on the show. You're about to make me speak about powder. I'm just saying it don't make you act like that. My nigga malfunctioned. They just tweaked, bro. Honestly, that's the first emo. He really the OG. He just tweaked. My boy tweaked out. He just malfunctioned, bro. lay down. He just push-ups. He just tweaked. How do you even remember that, dude? Listen, that's the first thing that came to mind when I hear that show. I think back to those 90s, because that's back when there was no real testing. Yeah. It was wild. It's really the 80s, though. Yeah. Dr. J was talking about this. He said, boys, smoke squares at halftime. Yeah. They had beer in the Gatorade containers. They said, Larry, you should have a beer. That's why, that's my dog, LD, when he had a beer after the game. I said, y'all, y'all, y'all. Y'all had to Y'all take this beer Away from LD But they was drinking beer During the middle of the game And he the next Larry Let him rock out Let him rock out That's real shit I agree Yeah Michael Philly Took that beer He looked at him Like hey man I ain't gonna lie Me and E.T. E.T. One of the funniest Human beings I've been Yeah shout out my dog E.T. Yeah we love E.T. Shout out to bro man That's one of our own For sure Those one on one sessions I used to watch The realest Okay so you neutral I'm neutral. How did those one-on-one sessions go? Please tell us. I'll give credit where credit's due. Jet did win a couple games. Come on, bro. Like, he won a couple games. Show my niggas some love. But also, at the same time, like, it was always JT, ET, Jet. ET, I ain't never really seen that win, no. I'll give it to you. Speak the truth. I'll give it to you. JT, you know he's about to text you. He's about to text you for sure. But that was retired ET. He was. He was 25 pounds. He was, you know, before he got back into shape. That's the fuck. So E.T. was just there. He was, I compete, man. I compete. I told you no threes. You know what I mean? Yeah, we're in fact. That's a fact. So then E.T. never really won. Jet, I'd say, would win like seven for the games, I'd say. He had his days where he won a couple. Okay. J.T. dominated the rest for sure. For sure. And then the occasional times when me and Peyton joined, we won. Peyton won a play one-on-one. Peyton went all day though. Peyton would be the type to like, they do three spots, right? Then he'd be like, let's do seven. Yeah. Let's do seven. It's like, yeah, we done. Yeah. I remember there was one day at me, JT, JB, you, and Peyton all played. And I remember, because they think it's assholes for real. It was like, I used to like, I used to never do the shit during, like, the shit I'm doing one-on-one, I never did in the games. So every time I made a tough move, I remember I messed up JB one time, Jet was like, he was like, damn, G, do that shit in the game. But like, so, but it was some good times. It was hella fun. That team was one of, I told you, that team was one of the funniest teams. One of the funniest teams, bro. Tristan and Brad was the most comedy. I tell those stories to teammates to this day. Double T, bro. Double T. 13, baby. This is how we do it in Cleveland. We go like, oh, shit. Damn. Yeah, let Bron breathe, bro. This is how we do it in Cleveland. They're like, oh, shit. This motherfucker can't cope, man. Listen. This motherfucker can't cope, man. Y'all had a hell of a rock. Man, what? Every one time we got on the plane, the food was weak. Hey. Oh, my God. We all on there. We chilling. Everybody just chilling. They're like, this what y'all eating? We're like, yeah. Yeah. They would never do this in Cleveland. Never do this in Cleveland. Bro, I would have went crazy. Crazy. We're like, all right, bro. Kimba, look at me. We have to come on this show. I love this. I love this. This how they treat y'all we all win, David? Oh, God, bro. This is what happened? Well, see, we still in the playoffs. Yeah, I swear to God. Was TT a good vet, though? Yeah, for sure. And he was the coolest team that I ever had. That's why I like that year, man. Take care of the rooks. Like, he never made you do nothing crazy. By then, like, I was a second year, so I ain't have to do crazy stuff no more. But, like, Payton, Aaron, them, A-Ron, man. Oh, man. Crash out. My nigga killing that up. Yo, he hooping. I used to beat his ass every day. Oh, my God. I used to bust his ass. Joe, shout out to Joe. Joe used to be like, play him. Come on. He's got to get better. He's got to be a little guard. Come on. Kill him. I used to be fucking. Damn. Now my boy, Patience, is laughing. Yeah, he a patient legend. For real. Shout out to Aaron. You talking about it earlier, Peyton Pritchard, his development, what he looked like. Did you see it earlier on, too, that he was going to be like that? Yeah. When they got him on that contract, I was like, oh, this is a big deal. And they robbed him. Oh, bogus, right? I think they're going to take care of him. They're going to make it right. Oh, he's a fan favorite. But that dude, like, when I tell you, he was cooking like that from the moment he came in. And then, like, he also, like, he waited his time. But at the same time, he was always killing. Like, you could tell he worked his act. Like, he's the type of person you have to tell to get out of the gym. Swear to God. Like, he was one where he'd be in the morning, they'd be like, hey, we got a true lockout day. And everybody else can come in but Peyton. Damn. Peyton was legit. And he's the type of person that, like, they keep him out of the gym, he's going to find another gym next door. Nah, he's a basketball junkie. Junkie. Bro, I used to be like, I remember I was like, Brad, play Peyton, man. It's cool. Like, because Brad was like, you know, he's ready, huh? Yeah, that's Brad for sure. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to fucking kill him. I remember that conversation Yeah, me and Bo's with the Brad. Hey, play them. Play them, man. I'm tired of y'all acting like he don't want to play them, man. He was cooking in practice, though. You got to think, Peyton been through it all. Like, he was in that position with Jet. He started playing again. E-May came. He was hooping for real. Yeah. Then after that, the next season, it was Malcolm Brogdon, Jeff, like, Derek White, Marcus Smart. Yeah. He touched the court. Yeah. And then following Yuri, that's when they started going off. I love his debate, bro. We just had a crazy segment about him and Cable Parker on the show. I spazzed. Yeah, they got Peyton fucked up. I was going to say, they got Peyton tripped. Reggie got the wild one. Peyton nice, bro. Love to the women. Love, love. Caelan nice. But Peyton different, bro. Yeah, Peyton different. Peyton is so nice that a team with JT and JB, they give him the ball sometimes at the end of the game and let him rock. Peyton nice, bro. I ain't never. I always say he's a motherfucker good. he dribbled the fuck out that ball he got handles like a motherfucker we just hit the AR the other day yeah we gotta play them soon and I'm pissed go ahead he be talking crazy too he talk he truly like he can go any pickup session I gotta meet bro he definitely gotta play I gotta meet my boy PP for sure who's speaking is brother black Calling PP? Meeting the PP though is crazy. Ah, that is, that is great because I ain't there. But see, I don't call my shit that. That's probably why it went over my head. It's the wood or nothing. But ask the G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. That's wildcat bear. Toughest guard though in the league, man. Yeah. That's what I was. You under size big but you hold your shit down. And he guarding one through five of them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For me, it's always, it's really niggas like Jet. Like, short niggas that can shoot, that can go, like, fast. Like, Peyton, like, Darius Garland, Steph Curry, like, CJ McCollum. Like, those guys are the hardest ones to be able to guard. Because I'd rather guard, this gonna get me fucked up in the future. I'd rather guard KD and those type of guys because it's more, like, more fun than guarding a nigga that's just gonna pit-pat, cold cross, like, pass it off, cut back door, sprint to get the ball. Yeah. It's too much. Like, relax. I knew you was different when he was guarding Joel Embiid. Yeah. I'll never forget that, bro. I was watching that game. Did you fuck him up? Nah, I mean, nah, he was actually doing a good job. But Joel Embiid, seven foot, 300 pounds. He's six, seven. For sure. Did you sign up for that or they put you in that? So, like, I was able to, like, guard bigger guys. Like, even, like, college, everything else, going to the league. Like, they saw it when we played Bam. Like, we're just going to try him. Like, try him. Like, put him on Jokic. put him on and be how he does. And then like I was guarding. So like I actually do better. I think on, I always say I guard best three through five, ones and twos like Donovan Mitchell's, those guys of the world. It's a long day. Struggle, like struggling before. A long day. They might not score four, three out of five, but like, I'm sorry, four out of five, but maybe three out of five. Other guys, I'd say two, maybe one out of five. Yeah. Like even like regardless of doing recently, like guys like that, like, I feel like I feel confident in my matchup versus like other matchups. I'm like, might got the better of me. I'm truthful about it. No, for sure, bro. Like in B, even for example, like guarding him in playoff series, guarding Giannis, like Brooke Lopez, like those guys in the world, like those are the ones I feel like I have the most fun guarding because they don't flop, they play downhill, and like they fight. Like I like fighting, so. We're good. I see that bruise on the side of your head. I see. Oh boy. I was like, what's your figure, man? And we're on Royal Fight Club. What was the life plan in the finals against, you know what I'm saying? That type of word. I'm surprised you didn't go from Fight Club to ask about the pisses. Don't worry, look at that. Playing in the finals is cool because it's a different experience. They always talk about the CP quote, like, I want to feel this experience again type shit. It was legit. like you that first game you step on the court I remember my heart was beating out my chest and you start playing and it's some the best environments whether it's like fans the media you have to do before the game like it's top to bottom across from first man to 15th man I feel like you got to stay locked no that's a it's a it's a different experience and like to experience it in that 2022 series like I remember we playing those those games we man we thought we won it Like, we were up 2-1, or, yeah, 2-1. And I was like, yo, like, we going back home. Like, we home. We got to get this next win. Game four happens. Then Steph, like, I always say Steph went off. Steph is insane. Jordan Poole was one of the biggest reasons why they won that series. But Steph, that game four was ridiculous. Like, I remember I was guarding it, but then when I got subbed out, I remember watching it, and I was like, yo, yeah, this is a different level of basketball player. And he was hype, too. He was on a mission. Yeah, he was showing a lot of emotion and shit. He was wild. I ain't never, like, because Klay was cool that whole series. He was good. But, like, it was really JP and Steph that was carrying them throughout that entire run. For sure, JP was on. And then Otto Porter and Andrew Wiggins, bro, they had some big-ass games. Otto Porter. Otto Porter, bro. Play out of his body that he got. It pisses me off to this day because that following year he got traded to the Raptors without the league. Yeah. Like, still makes me mad. Like, he was busting, bro. He was killing. We always got some random dudes that beat us back when I was in Boston. Yeah, that was Georgetown out of order. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was healthy out of order. He ain't never been healthy his entire career. Ah, true. He wanted to freaking play every game 20 minutes and be good. He was killing. Hey, you still, man. He was killing. You was that close to being like me, bro. He was that close to being a champ, bro. It's all good. Hey, but he did get your books up out of here before that thought. That's true. I was already gone, bro. It didn't matter anymore. The crazy part about it is that championship year, I remember you played, what, three minutes? No. It was a real factor. Oh, yeah. Real factor. Damn, damn. I knew I was going to wear my coat today. I wanted to ask, have you ever matched up with Draymond? Yeah, for sure. What was that, man? That's why we did another game against the Pelicans. Yeah. Try to get a rebound. Right. That was even game one of the series. Me and Draymond got into that series. And I always say I got the most respect for Draymond in the world because I made it to this day, and I'm never changing the stance. I was my favorite player growing up, like, because 6'7", 6'6", outboard that, you know, pass it, involve, you know, everything that stuff. So, like, I'll give him the credit where he's due. But every time we play against him. And smoke. Smoke. You know, it's competitive. Like, I think that he's the type of person that, like, as you all know, talks all the shit in the world. That's a fact. He got the team to back it up. and does a phenomenal job of, you know, making an impact on winning where you can. So, like, when I was in Boston, especially, back and forth, back and forth, every single time, I think when I was the first, within my first five years, there was always an altercation. Damn. There was some level of altercation where it was like, there was, when I got traded to Charlotte, and they tried to kick me in my nuts. When it was, you know, when I was in Dallas, like, when I had in Boston, like, wrestle to the ground, double text, like, it was always something. This year, I think this year, the first year, that play. I remember y'all wrestlers. I just never knew that y'all was to guard each other. I never knew. Normally, they put me on somebody else. Because with Dre, you try and put your five on them. You try and put... When we were in Boston, we put JT on them because we were like, we can just switch it. You put me on... Who was on that team at the time? Auto Porter. Auto Porter. I won't take credit for that one. It was... They put me on... When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? When? I would switch with Looney and they would just never come into ball screens. Yeah. You talk about having to see me back it up. We'll go ahead and jump to recently. Detroit Charlotte. Hell of a time, man. What was the vibes like, man? I always say, just watch the reactions, man. Like, I saw it from the start. Like, this is like, even before this play started happening, like, Dern and Moose were jawing. They were talking, like, talking, talking. And once the mush happened, I was like, oh, like, it started getting crazy. I stood up. He packs in my hands. Oh, I'm staying over there. Like, all right, let's see if they get it taken care of. because I'm not about, I got to find my second year in the league or third year in the league against the Bulls. I got suspended one game. Man, I lost $30,000 or $30,000. I was like, yeah, I ain't never doing this again. Nah, for sure. So then this happens, right? So I'm over here like, all right, they got it situated. When I saw a mile swing on Duren, I was like, all right, you see me. And Tillman started walking. We started walking. Then Stuart ran. That's when we really started walking. And my coach pulled me back because he was like, Grant, we need you to play. You see me trying to get on the court twice. And I'm like, yo, I want to be involved. It's fun. Nah, sit your ass down. Don't lose no chicken, bro. That's what it was. You can't lose that. My nigga Miles ducked that bitch. They was in the ring for real, nigga. Each sequence was fun because you saw the first one. I give a lot of credit to Dern because he really could have knocked my dog out like Moosa. He's like, this situation happened. Tries to swing on him. Holds back. They hold him back We got him situated He walks away We think it done Yeah Hey everyone It Emily Simpson and Shane Simpson from the Legally Brunette podcast Each week, we're bringing you true crime through a legal lens. 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Moose is going crazy Throw security Boom Right here This is the one he could have Checked the hook He was going to knock The motherfucker Foo Foo up Checked the hook And he watched the tape Man He for sure You can tell he can fight too Because he had a little turn He checked Held it back So I was like Alright He checks the hook Then keeps backing up So I was like Alright cool They get Moose situated Miles I think was just Riled up He was Talking in. He's trying to support his teammate. Goes, keeps pursuing him, trying to swing. Swings on during. They swing back and forth. They miss, miss. Miss, miss. So, nothing happened. I said Seward came from the other side of the bench. Yeah. He could have scooped him, though. I see Bobby. Hey, to this day, I think he would have scooped him. I don't know if either one of them know what to do when they get to the ground. Like, you gotta think, because throwing hands is different. Like, he slipped it, scoops, goes for a double leg, tries to slam him. I forgot you was into that shit. Yeah, yeah. That's my fault. You know what I meant to all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You come down. The MMA shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love watching that. And he just broke down the stances of an NBA party. He didn't stand there. What? I forgot that shit, man. What the fuck we doing? Pulling up screen? Yo, what? What the fuck you doing? That's fine. What happened? What happened? He pulled up my stats to the fight. What he doing? Oh, that crazy transition. Hey, at least you got points. Yo, tell me what's happening. Yeah, 0-0. 2.0, 0.8 or 6. Yeah, yeah, it's something. No, I'm God. No, fuck y'all. I'm God. Then I think Miles would have slammed him. I don't know what. After that, there ain't no chance of breaking that up. Nah. That's too real. Because Jared Duran, my neighbor, I say Miles, duck. I said, oh, my boy been in this before. For sure. I took him back to the hood. You tell he's been doing boxing lessons over the past. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah. It got wicked for sure. All right, man, what was it like, man, moving from Boston to Dallas. What was that transition like? Yeah. I was going to say, because like... Signing trade, baby. Signing trade is always a misconception. People think signing trades is like, oh, this guy got moved. Versus signing trades, basically the player decided to go somewhere else and sign and stuff like that. So when I left the team, I was like, you know, at the time, me and Joe were on the best of terms. Now it's my dog locked in for life. But at the time, we were on best of terms. I was like, I'm going either way. So then I signed to Dallas. I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm definitely me. Luke is represented by my agency. Get there. Mark and those guys are like, hey, we're excited to have you. We need you to be like a leader on this team, hold people accountable, all this other stuff. I'm like, cool. So then that season happens, you know, how it went. And like it was a great time. Like I look back to those times. I learned so much about that team, like Kyrie, like all the misconceptions that I had across him at the league. I was like, yo, this is one of the best teammates I've ever had. Yeah. like and then you got like LD one of the best players I remember those conversations with ET and that's why I brought that up JT yeah JT's my dog JT is my dog JT is my dog they knew that they don't do that don't do that JT impacts winning more okay you know how you determine which one is a better player that's on you to decide the talent that I saw playing with Luka is absurd he's nice what'd you say about JT I missed that one he impacts The way he impacts winning is unprecedented. Like, he impacts the game out every facet. He can defend. He can, like, he's a playmaker. He can score. So, like, he's a 6'10 wing that can do it all. That's the best way to describe it. LD, 6'7 European bucket that also controls the game. Like, he paces. Like, he knows how he puts people in position. Like, I've never had that many open shots since playing with Luka Doncic. my life it's difficult at times but at the same time like it's like you watch him you're amazed like and like i always say jt i think had the benefit of the doubt that like in moments like he was amazing in moments but also we had a really really freaking good team so like you didn't have to be amazing at all times like with ld i felt like every single game i'd be like there's something new that i'm like yeah holy crap like and maybe that's just how they both play you know jt is a little bit more passive, also like a little bit more like trusting of his teammates. LD's a little more ball dominant, you know, getting to his own. So what's that first practice of that training camp? Like when you got to see Kyrie and Luka hooping at the same game? Oh, no. So I was like, who the fuck was you going? I'll say that. I always bring it back to that family story. Cause when family came out, it was like Grant got 26 on his head. I'm like, that is cap. Oh yeah. I definitely got scored on about 12. Definitely about 12. 12 switches. switches. So like, but LD, like I was, I was in charge of making sure you showed up every day. So like, I was like always agitating them, like pissing them off some way, like makes, and now as we practice, like we practice every day. It's different than different. Like we skirmished, like that was all we had. So it was, it was smooth. Like I was rocked with it. And so it was competitive, like Kai and absurd, but Kai would, you know, pick and choose. Like some days when, you know, guys get into it, that's when Kai would turn it up. But some days he'd be like, all right, yeah, LD needs this for his condition and whatever he needs to do and let him rock out. So it was fun. But also that team, like you could tell that team was a finals team, even without like the talent. Like we needed one more big at the time. Like Rashawn Holmes, I think at the time when I was there. Yeah. Like we need to get a Gafford change that team. Yeah. Hell of a trade. Underrated trade. Hell of a trade. For sure. And even my trade with PJ, like it was a good trade in my opinion, like in terms of like similar players, but at the same time, like I think PJ provides a little bit more. I like passing more than he does like I feel like he's a little more score motivated so like even that group like they were they were prepared to go to the finals and that's why they did I just think that made it tough at the end so you're one person who probably thought last year like everybody else like how the hell did they trade Luka or that was probably shocking to tell you oh no I was in I was in bed and I was like I saw the tweet I was like ain't no way and I'm all like ain't no way but at the same time I know cause like Nico loves AD you know he was a Kobe guy and AD was Kobe's guy even talking about I thought I was really trying to set up Giannis going to Dallas oh that's what you that's what they really wanted they wanted Giannis and AD in Dallas I think that was the envisioning the plan oh shit Giannis and AD wow that would have fed families yes generations would have because that's all that's all he talked about he talked about those two guys those were the guys so I think like they said remember the first call they made to was the Timberwolves I think it was Milwaukee. Then it was Timberwolves. Yeah. Bucks, then Timberwolves. Yeah. Bucks. Going after Giannis. Timberwolves going after Am. Yeah. So. That one of those was a year early. Now we know. Has it been this year, boy? Oh, Giannis would have been a. Yeah. In Dallas, Maverick. Giannis would have been out of there. Yeah. It'd been deep element for sure. Yeah. So. But that was a. It was smooth. Like seeing it. But then when the trade happened, I was like, well, Nico's just fed up. They were done with it. They were done with like the. Like the. Or like. organizational control. They were done with all that stuff. So they were like, we're going to move off of them. And in my opinion, I think that was messed up because blindsided, your best player. Superstar. Superstar. Probably top three, top two player in the NBA. Yeah. So it was like, it was very shocking from a player perspective because I'm like, you could have easily gone to him and be like, yo. Because they also thought they did right by him because if you know LD enough, you know it's probably three places he'd go if it wasn't Dallas. Yeah. And that's probably one of the three. But it's... I mean, he did get traded to the Lakers. He did. Yeah. But still, like, if you knew you were traded to the Lakers, you could still go to him and be like, yo, like, I'm not to you. I know you probably don't hate this. You're out of here. Yeah. Like us. Yeah, you are going to L.A. You're going to L.A., bro. Yeah. You will be a Laker. He's probably like, damn, what? Well, that's an extra $50 million I'm probably about to make in the endorsement deals. but you got 50 billion taken away you need to pay taxes yeah but he gonna make that up oh yeah you right he gonna make that it ain't no state tax super max yeah he gonna get that back y'all trust me I need that now bro he gonna get it you see LD in a ton of commercials LD not really like grand chill big commercials did you know motherfuckin' while in her had a tree yeah nigga yeah nigga he didn't know that did you Nigga told you about the tree, ain't it? Yeah. Paul Montore. I did. L.A., dog. You forgive me, L.A., man. Nigga said you know Kawhi had a L.A. That's a bomber L.A. versus the L.A. That's the fucking bar right there. That has to be an episode. Yeah. That's the bar, bro. I'm doing safety, bro. Niggas did notes. Niggas leaked the news, boy. Yeah. So, L.D. got a wrench. Believe that. Got a wrench. Believe that. Hey. Y'all have problems. Hey, man, happy you back from an injury, man. Good to see you back on the court, man. How's the feeling being back, coming back from an injury? I know that's a grind, man. It was stuff like that. It's great, but it's tough. Yeah. Like, I feel like coming back from any injury, you know, any type of, like, this is my first injury in my life, for real, that made me miss time. Okay. So, like, coming back from an injury has shown me that you have to be patient. Yeah. You got to be understanding that you're not, like, you might be better in your eye, like, your mind, like, you're better than you were, but you got to, like, be understanding that the shot's going to come around. Like, even the first two or three, three, four games, like, I was playing good defensively, helping the team win and stuff like that. But, man, I was shooting, like, 12%, like, from the field, 12% from the three. I was like, I was killing in practice. Yeah, it ain't nothing like that game speed. It ain't nothing like it. So, like, now I think I'm getting more accustomed to it, like, turning it back around. But, like, even so, it's like they say it takes a full year in ACL. So, like, I'm trying to be patient with myself, but I also understand that I can't be too patient because you're trying to make it happen. Yeah, I'm trying to make things happen. for sure. Hold yourself to a high standard, but also like doing all the things that matter. Like before, you know, I always tell the stories like that finals run, I used to manipulate my weight so badly. Like I would go from 24, I remember that first round series, I went from 243, second round series, we played a Bucks, I got up to 248, third round series, we played Bam, I knew I'd be playing a five, I was 254. Bam. I tried to get down to 243 again to play the Warriors, I could only get down to like 247. So like, I used to try and do that. You need to tell him how to do that shit. I know. I know how to do it. I got the methods. I'll tell you how to lose weight. There you go. John Starks. Lamar. Lamar. Slime flu, nigga. I can't do that no more. No, you never did it. I can't manipulate on weight. You know what I mean? You're not breaking up. I can't manipulate my weight. Yeah, never. I can't manipulate my weight anymore the way I used to. So like now with the ACL injury, I'm like, I got to make sure I stay at the 247, 248 rather than going up 255. Nigga, you weigh 248. And nigga, you was a hoe for talking about you need to teach him about it. I was like, you can manipulate your money. I'll call you, nigga. Listen G Listen Me and B here We the real Charlotte Hornets man Yeah man Appreciate you bro For real Keep killing Hope to be out of the playoffs Oh before you go You gotta tell us about these cards Oh yeah Oh yeah Off the court Quick game Free game So Whatever cards You guys might be fans of Stuff like that Like ripping wax It's like gambling I'll give you a truth Okay Like I brought a case To rip If you wanna rip it After we're done Where it's like If you want Oh yeah So we got a case of Panini Prism The one below it The brown case That's a case of Panini Prism football this year So like Shadour, all those Yeah, it's like a whole case of like 12 boxes in it Okay, damn Big money on the way Yeah, so cases that guarantee case hits So like you normally have a better chance of making your money back Compared if you buy an individual box So Yeah Yeah, if you got a key So the way you really it's basically about prospecting just like a GM just like you would if you're owning a team and you basically hold cards some cards are more rare than others the cards are more rare sell for more yeah so these I brought football because it's the best way to talk about okay big rips right on brother yeah box yes sir if I find some heat in here I get to keep it I'm giving you keep okay oh man we got gifts let me get this out here at Franklin and his joint listen if you hit it Let's tell you the truth. If you hit a manga, you're coming off on five figures. Just let y'all know. Okay. So if you see a card that looks like an anime print, five-figure card. Say less. Now, listen, are you one of the people who will be in there ruining all the kids' dreams of the Pokemon cards? If you have the people who pull up the vending machines, Bucklebell? I'm not the person that shows up, buys sweet boxes, and walks out. He said I'm a win. Okay. Like, I'm a person. Like, I like buying them into the boxes. Oh, it'd be multiple packs. Yeah, multiple packs. Oh, yeah. If you're for the packs, I'll tell you if you hit a good card. Oh, yeah. All right, I'm going to give one. Numbered cards is what you're looking for. Okay. Everybody on the motherfucking Packers. I got a Ray Lewis, though. Is that fire? Yeah, so it's a base card. So, like, base cards are cool. They're, like, cool names. But you want guys, like, the shinier cards. Hey, Willis McGahill. A Jared Goff. Would you consider this a shiny card? So, yeah, that's a blue. That's a blue. So, that's numbered. My nigga, TJ Hoosman. So, I'll tell you the number. Number 10. Christian McCaffrey, I'll trade you. And also, that's another thing. You can trade cards. But like what I always do is base cards don't really matter. Right. So I always just, you can peek it. You'll see that. Okay. Who's that? R.J. Harvey basketball print to 180. Like rookies sell higher than the vets do. Okay. Consistently. So if you have a rookie card, that's a silver, then that will sell more than a rookie base. Like numbered cards and some more, it kind of goes by like increments. you're looking for like the bigger name so quarterbacks like you had a jackson dart silver you might hit like a couple hundred dollar card in the gym all right so this oh he earned his binder he ain't rolling yeah okay so this is like older basically yeah the insert all right they're silvers like people collect them for sets but they're not really like something that you like you ever put to the side unless it's numbered i'm getting legendary i got the white freeney i got laurence taylor yeah shocky so yeah you get like some cool names but because they're not their rookie. Like, if you go back and rip the products when they were rookies, nukes. Versus nowadays, unless it's an autograph or something like that. Cooper Desire, Super Bowl champion. Hell yeah, we having too much fun with this, man. Gotta tap me in for sure. Yeah, appreciate that. This is where you, you know, you might be able to get a sponsorship for the pot, you mean? Talk to him. See some products to rip. I'm getting all my favorite players, but I ain't get And sometimes the favorite players are the ones you collect. So, like, okay. Yeah, I got Bobby Wagner and I got Nick Bosa, even though Nick, you know, Nick Buster be wilding, but... They're not like us. Yeah. I got a Michael Vick auto in my case over there, because, like, that's the person I like. Boy, I got D-John Ravish, man. I got a game book. Hey, Mike. Hey. I know you're doing game book going for this. You're really low right now. You're really searching for, like, Shadour signs in this product. So if you get a Shadour... Hookah, TJ White. I got a Mark Andrews shiny, though. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So that's purple Mark Andrews. So, like, all those cars that are colored will have some... What you do with the cards? I get a card from Mark Andrews. You know, he dropped that pass. Make still money, man. Yeah. Kids collect cards just for the joy, right? Yeah. Like, the base cards that have no money, no incentive. Yeah. You bring it to a card shop and be like, hey, give these out to, like, the 10-year-olds that want to. I usually give everything under the bridge. We got a bridge over here. A bridge. Oh, yeah. That bridge is wicked, man. Yeah, he give out LRG outfits. All right. And on that note. Gene, we appreciate you, though, bro. Gene, appreciate you. That's the one on Discord. It's out here. It's out here. I got the Zoom break, nigga. Yeah. Shout out to the gang for sure. Shout out to Boost Mobile family. We tapped in. Hard Rock Bet. Leave the players alone, man. When you make the parlays and the crash outs, man, don't go bothering them after they work. Last but certainly not least, man, shout out to StockX. We appreciate y'all. We'll catch y'all next time. Club 520. The Volume. 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