Summary
Actor Miles Teller discusses his new film 'Eternity,' his experience losing his home in the Palisades fire, the importance of relationships over material possessions, and his philosophy on acting, military service, and personal growth. The conversation spans his career trajectory, work with Tom Cruise on Top Gun, and reflections on love and mortality.
Insights
- Material loss can paradoxically strengthen relationships and provide perspective on what truly matters in life, as evidenced by Teller's experience losing his home but deepening his bond with his wife
- Collaborative leadership in creative industries yields better results than authoritarian direction; actors and crew perform better when they feel heard and valued as part of a unified team
- The military-civilian disconnect is widening due to socioeconomic factors, meaning fewer Americans have direct relationships with service members, reducing collective understanding of military sacrifice
- Curiosity and empathy are more valuable acting tools than physical appearance or technique; they enable actors to authentically portray the human condition across diverse characters
- Slowing down career pace to nurture relationships and personal growth produces better creative work and life satisfaction than relentless touring or project-to-project scheduling
Trends
Shift toward character-driven romantic comedies with existential themes rather than plot-heavy romantic narrativesGrowing interest in afterlife/mortality-themed entertainment reflecting broader cultural conversations about meaning and legacyActors increasingly using their platforms to advocate for veteran mental health and military family supportPreference among established actors for collaborative, ensemble-based filmmaking over star-vehicle productionsRising awareness of attachment to place and home as psychological anchor, especially post-disaster recovery narrativesMilitary service becoming increasingly concentrated in specific geographic regions, creating civic knowledge gapsEmphasis on work-life balance and relationship investment as markers of career success, not just filmography size
Topics
Afterlife and mortality in contemporary cinemaMilitary veteran mental health and reintegration supportCollaborative filmmaking and actor-director relationshipsHome loss and disaster recovery psychologyLove and relationship longevity in long-term partnershipsActing craft and character development methodologyMilitary-civilian cultural disconnect in AmericaCareer pacing and burnout prevention for performersGrateful Dead fandom and music community resilienceChildhood trauma and empathy developmentSports and discipline in youth developmentAuthenticity in creative collaborationMaterial attachment and minimalism philosophyVeteran family sacrifice and recognitionCuriosity as professional asset in acting
Companies
Indeed
Sponsored job listing platform featured in opening ad read promoting quality candidate matching
MoonPay
Cryptocurrency purchasing app; Theo Von announced accepting Bitcoin compensation from partnership
Bleacher Report
Sports news and community app discussed for NFL, NBA, NHL, and college football coverage
BlueChew
Chewable tablet brand for sexual performance enhancement featured in mid-roll advertisement
Good Ranchers
American grass-fed beef subscription service emphasizing domestic sourcing over imported meat
BetterHelp
Online therapy platform promoted for mental health support and seasonal wellness check-ins
People
Tom Cruise
Co-star on Top Gun: Maverick; Teller praised his work ethic, professionalism, and collaborative approach
Elizabeth Olsen
Co-star in 'Eternity'; plays Teller's wife in the film dealing with choice between two loves
Devine Joy Randolph
Supporting actress in 'Eternity'; Oscar winner for 'The Holdovers' praised for performance
John Early
Supporting actor and standup comedian in 'Eternity'; provided comedic relief as afterlife coordinator
Gary Sinise
Veteran advocate discussed for extensive work supporting military families and veteran reintegration
Todd Graves
Owns Triceratops skull loaned to Louisiana museum; invited Theo Von to Ryder Cup
Jerry Garcia
Grateful Dead founder; Teller's vintage shirts from his collection were lost in house fire
Vinny Pazienza
Boxer Teller portrayed in 'Bleed for This'; known as comeback story and Dana White's favorite
Kelly Teller
Miles Teller's wife of nearly 13 years; launching new pajama/robe line; lost home in Palisades fire
Quotes
"Everything I've acquired in life, gone. It's truly like everything I've acquired in life, gone."
Miles Teller•Discussing Palisades house fire loss
"The only important feeling as it feels like you're leaving the existence is that love was the most important thing and that everything else was just a complete fool's errand."
Theo Von•Reflecting on DMT experiences and consciousness
"I never get sick of her. I see her from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to bed. We are with each other all of the time and we love it like that."
Miles Teller•Discussing his 13-year relationship with Kelly
"Nightmares are also dreams."
Navy sailor•Response to Miles Teller on USS carrier during Top Gun filming
"We still don't really know how to bring them back. We've known how to send guys to war for centuries, but we still don't know how to bring them back."
Miles Teller•Discussing veteran reintegration challenges
Full Transcript
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Today's guest is Mr. Miles Teller. And where's your home base? My home base is Nashville. OK. Yeah, our sister-in-law, or Kelly's sister, my sister-in-law, brother-in-law, they just moved to, I think they bought a spot in fucking Trubidor. Oh, yeah, dude, remember that's the first time I met you was over there. Yeah, you and your wife. I met you out there with the Steli. Yeah, we will Steli. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was cool. He's the LSU boy, too. Yeah. Yeah. And Todd is awesome. Yeah, so I saw Todd last week. Dude, he's such a fucking, he invited me to the Ryder Cup with him. I couldn't go, but he's just awesome. Todd Graves. He's a great dude. Yeah, he's an interesting guy. You know, he owns a Triceratops head. He owns that he owns one. He lent it to the museum in Louisiana. I mean, just obviously the skull. Yes, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool, though. Yeah, good call. I would pay somebody to fucking realistically fill that bitch in. Dude, well, especially like you'll see a lot of perverts will be like, oh, look at the tits on that. I'm like, those aren't those are horns, you idiot. Like are we talking right now? Yeah, is this real? We can be or we can start over. OK, no, dude, I'm all good. I said no idea. But yeah, you'll see people just hang Mardi Gras bees and stuff on in Louisiana. People just don't give a shit. Wow. Wow. But yeah, I just saw Todd the other day, dude. I got to keep it in there. There's like a museum over there. Oh, well. So it's it's like a Louisiana museum. So there's like, you know, the stuff, the artifacts they keep in there are a little bit different, like a beer bottle, you know, or like a shit. That's just a little bit more Louisiana. Like I mean, I grew up a lot of my half my life. I grew up in Central Florida. So I imagine it would be similar kind of museums. Yeah. With like Daniel Toss was down there. Was Tosh popping? Well, yeah. But also like the Daily Show came to my county twice when I was growing up. The one is because they have a Cougar festival, which is a type of turtle. And then the other a Cougar, it's like a type of type of turtle. Bring up that Cougar. Yeah, flash up that Cougar. And then the other one, it was like Ed Helms came because the town next to mine banned the devil from coming into the the town. And it was the it was the town of Inglis, like some pretty backwoods like Citrus Counties were, you know, I went to middle school, high school. Bro, that's amazing that they first of all, this is. Oh, it looks like Cougar, Tober just happened. Oh, yeah. Well, they're really kind of, I guess, branching out. You probably do for every every month. Anything that ends in an R, I think you're. Cougar's over. Yeah. That sounds pretty. Wow. Cougar, Tober is back. It says apparently it was discontinued for a bit. A whole month of Cougarific fun. Inverness, Florida. Let's go. Shout out. This year, we're returning with all your favorite events, like the Cougar Carnival, Small Town, Saturday Night, Cougar Comedy and Oh, that's great. Yeah, yeah. And that's the Cougar Turtle. Yeah, that yeah, that is. Yeah. We must not have discovered it for a while or they must not have given it. They must not have celebrated as much because it didn't. I remember that they didn't start like Cougar Fest until like I was, I don't know if I was still in high school, I might have been out of high school. So it took a while. I wonder how it even got that name, because I've heard of people using like kind of slang. Well, goats for like bestiality. But if they were, if this would be the worst thing to try to invade a species, you know, like, yeah, it's some like, yeah, how did it get its name? How did the Cougar Turtle get its name? The Cougar Turtle got its name from the African word Kuta, which means turtle in the Bambara and Malinke languages. The word was brought to us. Yeah, it originally was Kuta. Kuta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kuta. Yeah, Kuta Fest. Hey, boy, come on down and Kuta. I just saw a woman, they have a woman that has two Kutas, actually. I saw she's on TikTok the other day. There's a woman. What now are you talking about the anatomy now I'm changing it. So you want to hear of, OK, no, go. Yeah, go. There is a woman who has two vaginas that's on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She sent a DM the other day to me the other day. How many DMs did she send one of each one for me? Dude, dude, she sent replica DMs. That's insane. So can I tell you a story? Yeah. So I'm at my boy's wedding and we're he's from he's from Ohio. We're at the reception now the after reception are all just hanging out in the hotel room. And the one dude's like, you remember, remember that girl went to high school with two vaginas? And he's like, dude, you're talking about Cheryl. And then his other buddy's like, yo, double barrel Cheryl. And I just thought that was the funniest fucking nickname I've ever heard in my life. Double barrel Cheryl. I was like, that's got to go in some American pie type movie. Just double barrel Cheryl. So as soon as you started talking about that, I was like, oh, I have one. What are in a museum? But she used to apparently she used to say like this one's for my boyfriend, I'm saving this one for my husband. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're kind of beautiful. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because I would just I would if I had both. I would you'd blow on both. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, dude. No, I'd be like, I'm saving this one for after dinner or whatever. I would definitely do it. This is the dessert. This is yeah. It would be like we PM. Yeah, that's it, dude. Like the gas station is 24 hours. Running all night. This is my morning one. And this is my evening one. And one is like tattoos around it and stuff. And the other one is is a bit more like back. Classy, classy. Yeah, a little bit more upscale. Upscale, upscale. Leave a Yelp review. This one's this one's closing in on five stars. This is the other one. You know, you know what that one is. Yeah, and the other one for some reason is 3.8 stars. You're like both both viable options. Pretty good. Look, I'll look. I'll pull up a chair. Um, go go back to that one. That's double barrels. A great double barrel, Cheryl. Wow. We didn't we weren't we weren't fortunate to get a woman like this in our area. Let's see what she says here. I was born with two vaginas, two uteruses and two sabbixes. There was no join from my mouth to my stomach and that instead my food pot was connected into my air pot going into my lungs. OK, the music is, um, that's, uh, that's tough. I feel like our, uh, our tone should have been a little different when we were talking about them. Yeah, I'm sure it's a horrible thing to deal with. Oh, I can't even imagine. Even if I had two penises, two penises, I would. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, well, that would be very tough if you were, especially like when you're in high school and stuff and your body, you're going through, uh, pervert and whatever. And you're getting, um, erection in high school. I would erections. Yeah. Unless they operate different frequencies. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. One's it's like AMF. That's like an antenna. Like that's like there's no hiding that you got. You got two ready to. Dude, it's a rock, dude. But if you could time them out, you know, as soon as the one's done. Other boy, like a pentameter, yeah, like a drummer, like Nass, like your ones just getting the tires, you know, warmed up. Yeah. The other ones like, you know, doing a hot lab. Yeah, dude. I think if you will, like drummers. Yeah, it'd be like a very cool pentameter kind of. Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, the Grateful Dead has two drummers. Do they? It's the best. Yeah, they're sure to. Yeah, yeah. You went to their, I saw you went to their 60th. I did the same friend show. I, um, yeah, I mean, I've seen them at the sphere. I've seen kind of this iteration dead and co for, I think pretty much since John started, but yeah, they're my John mayor. Yeah, John mayor. But even before that, I was seeing, you know, some different versions of them. And, you know, Bob, we were, you know, Phil Lash kind of independently, but yeah, it's the best. Honestly, like when our house burned down, like the thing that I was probably one of the things I was most upset about was all of these vintage Grateful Dead shirts, but that community is so awesome. I don't have Instagram or anything, but they reached out to Kelly and we're like, Hey, you know, dead heads. They were like, we feel so bad for you guys. And we know if our house burned down, we would really miss those shirts. Can we send you some from our own collection? So a bunch of people, um, shout out to you, uh, you know, just send me shirts. It's such a loving community. Um, I feel like all those, you know, bands from, from that era, especially the dead who really kind of supported, you know, everybody, there's, there. Crowds were rainbow colored before anybody's. If you know what I mean, if that makes sense. Wow. So people just, uh, sent you different ones. Did they, is that one of them? No, this one, this one, I think I got up in San Francisco. Oh, that was the spread. That was just for like three days, but I was like, I don't, I don't know what pants I'm going to wear. I mean, I got a, oh, that's for when you went to a show. San Francisco, there was three nights. So I just took them all out. Um, it's kind of the only stuff I post about is like, yeah, even my, I guess my bio quote or, I mean, that's a Jerry Garcia one. That's great, dude. My brother has a big Jerry Garcia tattoo on his chest. Does he? He loves them. Yeah. We got to go together actually and see them at the sphere one time. Our producer, Zach, went and saw them all, I believe for two nights in San Francisco. Yes, Zach. Yeah, I was up there. I was at all three nights actually. Yeah. I thought, um, yeah, I mean, they're all amazing. Sturgill, I thought Sturgill was exceptional. Sturgill is exceptional. I mean, I just think overall Saturday, Saturday night was kind of the best night. It's hard because you can look at the, you can look at the set list, but usually at least one of those weekend shows, they just catch lightning in a bottle. And I think that's the beauty of the band is that you're never going to hear the same song twice, but because it's so improvisational. Um, and they're on the ride with you. You know what I mean? To play music at that level. Um, and they are, there's such, I mean, the skill set from all those guys so high, but it's just fun to, I dance my ass off too. People think it's like, you're just high and just sitting there. It's like, no, that music makes me boogie, dude. Like I love it. I love it. Dude, that's what I'm sweating. You're not trying either. I think maybe some of that's the Florida thing, but it's like, I grew up at the thin layer of sweat all over my body all the time. It makes you feel alive, dude. Oh, and Louisiana, you can't even land a handshake with people. If it's human day, people trying to land a handshake for fucking 30 seconds, 40 seconds, let us give up on the friendship. They'll go their separate ways. It's just, that's the kind of place it is, man. I always say it's like, you have a, you have a thought in your sweating. Yeah. You know what I mean? But that air too, like when you get off the plane, we would always fly into Tampa, like you get off that plane. It's just a huff. It's just a thick air, dude. Yeah. It feels like the air has a little bit of an infection, to be honest with you. When I feel that like air at night, it just, it just makes me feel like mischievous because when I was like all those teenage years, just, you know, sunsets, you know, get on a bike, just figure out some shit to do in your neighborhood. Like that air just makes me kind of, yeah, relapse, I guess. It's the word. Yeah. It makes, dude, there is something about it. Like there's something about, I even think about this, like if you ever stay at a, if you ever at a place that doesn't have air conditioning, right? Like at first you're like, oh, most of Europe, dude. You're like, this sucks. But then I feel like your dreams and everything is more acclimated to the actual climate of whatever's going on, right? And I always feel like I get, like I have like, like, like more imaginative or creative dreams whenever I'm in a place that doesn't have air conditioning for some reason. But yeah, that South dude, that shit hits you hard. Dude, you do dance, man. I noticed, I remember this now. I think, I don't know if it could have been like Marshmallow, maybe. It was one night we were both in Las Vegas after a UFC fight. Okay. And maybe it's chain smokers or something. It might have been that one when Ed Sheeran was there. I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. But you were like, you dance, dude. Even if you're just by yourself, you are doing your own thing. It's like some people would think like, Oh, Miles Teller, like he's just going to be like this cool guy and he just like flew his jet in there. His fucking, his Mach 70 jet. Right Southwest. Yeah. But I mean, he flew his top gun plane. Yeah, he's going to sit like, you know, dude, I love it. You have your own time. That's what it feels like. Yeah. It's like you decide that I'm going to have a good time for me and it almost like inspires like, God, I wish I could be that free. Well, I heard what I think you're pretty free. I think you're pretty free fucking dude, you know, just from, I guess I could dance better. Okay. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know. I think, I don't know. It's somebody I heard something a while back and it's not something I like think about, but they were like, you know, if you're having a party or wherever you're a group of people, you're not sure. Everybody, they said like the number one way to kind of try and have everybody make everybody have a good time is just start just have a good time yourself. And I think that, but also I've just always like rhythm. Yeah. Dancing that's something I've just always kind of got down with. Like that's how I, I just, yeah, I love it. But yeah, any kind of, I mean, that DJ music, but I was like Bob Seeger, like classic rock gets me, gets me going, dude, let alone if there's, you know, some rock piano, I love that shit. Yeah. Yeah, dude, some good jazz. I like my mom came in time recently, we went and listened to some blues. She likes to do that. I went and listened to. Would you, would you go somewhere for blues or? We went to this blues place in Nashville. It's just like in printers alley. It's a, I think it's kind of a, it's a bit of a touristy spot kind of. But I think we're just having trouble finding a spot. And so we went and we had a great time. It was actually a guy from New Orleans that was playing. And so we just sat there and had, and just had a nice time. She likes to listen to it. It's funny, as my mom gets older, she almost turns into a child a little bit. And there's moments where it's almost like it's a kid there, you know, but like just like in an older body. Like what? Just the, the, the fascination, the kind of it feels near to her. The kind of. It's a good question. It's like, you can just see on her face, she's having a good time. It just feels like pure and some innocence to it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's great. It's almost like. How old's your mom? She's 77. Yeah. Yeah. So she's an adult. She looks a little bit like Willie Nelson. Let's see if it's over. She's not going to want to hear that part. She looked a bit like, she looked a bit like Willie Nelson. Oh hell yeah. She's awesome. Dude, I love that. She listens to every episode of this. Oh, great. So it's what's her name? Her name is Gina. What's up, Gina? There you go, mom. Miles is married, mom. Calm down. What's your mom's name? Mary. Mary? Yeah, like Christmas. M-E-R-R-Y. Oh, really? Yeah. And they did that on purpose? Uh, yeah. Yeah, she was born like December 15th. It's close enough. She gets like, so it's not Mary? Oh, there she is. And my mom's like, my mom's like best friend. My mom says she's like the only one who pronounces her name correctly and it's Mary. Yeah. Okay, Mary. And then some of the, I just remember like some of it like, not, they're not your uncles, but like these guys live in the neighborhood and they just all seem like kind of pervy. Yeah. You know? Oh, guys at Lloyder or whatever. Yeah, they were like family friends and shit, but just some based on the, I don't know, I just feel like when I watch these old home videos, it's, you'll just hear some, you're like, whoa, that was pervy as shit. So they'll say like, Mary, then they'll go, I can do it. Lugger, lugger, lugger, lugger, lugger. Yeah. That's gonna raise a few flags. Yeah. Wow. Mary. Mary. Yeah. That is nice. What does your mom do for work? Does she work? She was, she did real estate for a while, but yeah, no, not working. My dad actually retired. He just retired a couple of years ago. He was born in 54, so 71. I think he retired pretty close to 70. And are they enjoying, has it gotten weird for them since they're both retired? Are they all, because you know, some couples it gets weird because they're both at home and stuff. Yeah. I don't, I mean, yeah, I don't know. You know, I don't know. I mean, I see a good amount, but I'm sure. Yeah. I know my dad likes doing like outside work. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? A lot of guys, the second they realize that there have to be in the house, like when the retirement happens, like, oh, God, there's no way to go. Yeah, you need something like, oh, the hobby. My step dad built like 40 bird houses in our, he did not want to be just the building. Yeah. Just never did he ever put them on. He's some of them. He did. Yeah. He also, he got the one, the helmet. Back to 14 year old and shop class. I guess that's kind of the, he was building dog house. We didn't even have a dog. I think he just wanted to be, he still needed some time alone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there's not, I mean, I don't have kids yet, but I, I imagine, you know, yeah, cause growing up, my dad would, you know, he'd be like working on the pool or something or just be fiddling with something to grow up for like hours. I don't, I had no idea what he was doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's gotta be cool dad stuff. I better be cool whenever you're a dad. Tinkering. I just want to tinker. You know what I mean? I could tinker for, for days, dude. Let me get out here. Let me start collecting something weird too. My buddy's dad collected all these toy trains and stuff and whenever we go over there, he'd have to set it all up, dude. It would take, we just around the holidays, around Christmas or something. I think it was anytime he started to lose his mind and he would just set that bitch up in June, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And, and we hate to have to set, you have to do the train. And it was just like, you want to support your friend's parents, but it was just a lot. It was a lot. It's a lot to watch. Somebody do the toy train a lot. We had, I had this bus driver growing up. Uh, his nickname was fingers because he was missing. Couple of them. But he had this. Thankfully, that's the reason why. Because there's a bus full of kids. Fingers, fingers. Yeah. And he'd always point at you with the, with the nub. Oh yeah. But he had this belt buckle because we're just talking about collecting weird shit or whatever, but he had this belt buckle that was, uh, looked like he had hand glued on like silver dollars. And so it was just like 20 silver dollars. I thought it was cool as shit when I was a kid. Oh dude, the stuff you thought was cool when your kid was so great, dude. Yeah. But even like you said earlier, like I remember, I was talking about this the other day, whenever like the sun, like if you were playing in the street with your friends and it was like somebody was pitching the ball, you're like, one more pitch, but the sun was setting. And be like, you, but dude, just one more. Like you knew you were going to try to head home or like it just, the game, it didn't, it wasn't even, it was just like, just these moments when you were a kid. Everything was so severe. And what if you rode your bike at night, just anything like that. It was so. Just riding a bike like in jazz. I think the beauty has, you know, just riding bike in, in general, man, it just brings you back to that. I got, I knocked myself out once playing this game. Uh, I got a bunch of concussions when I was younger, but my sister just graduated like six grade. I was probably in fourth grade. So like I was trying to come up with a game. So we grabbed a basketball and like an aluminum bat and we're like, I will play baseball. So she pitched it. I hit it the first time, you know, it's like, ding, ding, ding. It's like, all right, I got a grip of tighter. Second time, fucking metal bat with a rubber ball, dude. I fucking swung it. Ding, knocked myself out. My parents actually shoot, they were saying that, uh, like the teachers in my school were thinking that my parents were beating me because I would come in like one week or two, just like, Shiner, like concussion, dude. And I had that little surfer cut. So I would try and just cover the fucking tennis ball with that. Waves or. Yeah. Yeah. 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Then we bought that Palisades house and honestly, I would say it was the first kind of neighborhood in LA where my wife, um, A felt really safe and then B would be like excited to, to go back to LA whenever we'd be filming. I never heard her say that in like the 12 years we'd been dating. And, um, yeah, we like worked with some designers. My wife like really designed so much of it. And I had this feeling last night because we're in this rental, you know, obviously we've, we've been in rentals and, um, I was just laying a bit. I was like, man, this, you know, we're in a, the place we're in is, you know, it's a nice place. We don't have to worry about the, you know, the water, the air that, you know, it's, it's really well done, but at the same time, it just, it fucks with your mind when you can't look around at any point and see anything that reminds you of your life, you know, everything is just, there's no attachment to, to anything. Um, oh, that's literally my fucking house. Oh, I don't know why we brought that up. That's my Bronco though. That was my 75 fucking Bronco. So beautiful. Dude, I had that thing for like eight years. Why would we bring this? Well, um, but, but no, honestly, it's, it's, but to be fair, the first picture I saw Kelly and I saw from our fucking house to know that it was actually burnt down was from TMZ. Oh, like they sent a drone in there. Um, and also they just, because they started the first homes they're talking about are like celebrity homes. And that's not fair because the community of the Palisades, all of our neighbors and that community, honestly, were people that had lived there for like 30, 40 years. It was, um, you know, it's people that had like, you know, raise their kids there. We're having their grandkids there. And a lot of those people, you know, their home burns down at like 70 years old. It's like, we don't have time to, to rebuild. Um, but you know, there was like a little elementary school across the street and they had these dudes on bikes with, you know, like wooden boxes behind them. And they would, you know, ride the kids home from school. It really was like, like that movie Pleasantville. I don't know. It was just such a well done. Um, yeah. Community. It's a nice place. Yeah. I've gone a lot of like, yeah. Yeah. We, we still got a lot of recovery meetings up there. And it was just like, it would be the most nicest thing on Saturday we'd pull up and people would go to the church on a Viedelapaz. Yeah. Yeah. That's the road I lived on. I lived down, I lived like two blocks, maybe even one block from that church. Cause my buddy said he used to have meetings over there. Dude. Yeah. They had some of the best meetings in the world were there really. Um, and it was just such a special energy of there. If you go walking, go over to that, uh, that smoothie shop that's over there and they got those archive bowls. Yeah. And then they got the little restaurant right across the street from it. Yeah. That's right near that Starbucks and that big pink, like that whole village. Are you talking like the village and stuff? Yeah. No, it's like there's that Starbucks. Oh, that little sign. Okay. Yeah. And there's that little place that has breakfast and like right around the corner from it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we'd go park at the galsons and sit there and people would talk before they a meetings and then we'd walk over to the meeting together. Oh, good. But it was just a nice, it was like, yeah, man, that place is, it's a great place. Um, I'm sorry that that happened. And were you guys able to go in and get stuff out or what was that like? I mean, so like when the fire, when the fire started, like we could see it start from cause in that area via Delapage, you kind of have a good vantage point. You got some, uh, some altitude to us. We could see like where the fire started and I'll say it was probably about three and a half, four miles, maybe, uh, at our 12 o'clock and the winds really weren't that bad at that point. Um, it was scary because we were seeing the fire, you know, start to encroach on some homes and so you're watching a home, you know, with this fire going towards a home, you're just feeling for that, that family or whoever's there and then turn on the news. And because there's one road out, I mean, it was already kind of like, it got serious very fast and, you know, people were like abandoning their vehicles. Uh, you know, it's like women running with babies and this was it within like an hour of this fire kind of starting. And so I was taking care of my grandma at the time because my grandpa had just passed away like around Christmas. So I was in the process of moving her out with me. And so, you know, she's got some meds and she's slow moving. So I was like, Hey, grandma, you know, maybe, uh, no, no rush, but you know, let's start getting your meds together. And, uh, yeah, I mean, we grabbed, grabbed a couple of T shirts. I grabbed like two gravel dead shirts. We thought we'd be in a hotel for like, you know, a couple, couple of nights. And, um, but no, I remember at one point, my brother-in-law calling my wife and he's like, uh, you know, make sure Miles grabs that, you know, Kobe Jersey or that Eagles thing. And I was like, what, I couldn't come to terms with, I just couldn't face the reality. Hey, I did not think our neighbor was going to burn down. There's like no brush. It would have to jump six lanes, which it didn't. But I just remember thinking like, where do you, you know, it's like, where do you stop? You know, if I take this off the wall, then there's just too much. Uh, I think it's kind of, I think it was kind of overwhelming, but we, it's funny cause I always told Kelly, like if a natural disaster happens, something like that, you're going to drive, um, the truckload everything in the back. I'm going to take my Bronco. Um, but when stuff, when it's actually happening, you're like, no, obviously, um, I have, you know, make sure my wife and, you know, my grandma and, you know, and our dog and stuff. So no, we really didn't, we really didn't grab. I'm saying even little shit, like when you're at home, I imagine you have like a favorite coffee mug. If you drink coffee or just something that you have, has some history to it. It's like just none of that stuff. It's truly, it's like everything I've acquired in life, um, gone. Yeah, it's wild. Was there feelings after that? Like, cause that's like, I mean, that's such a, you know, it's traumatic. It's, is there anything in a weird way? And I don't mean this. Is there anything cathartic in some weird way about it? Does that sound crazy? Did they, no, no, no, I think, and maybe that's super, because there's some people that have lost, I don't know if it was their, their, you know, main home. There are certainly people that have talked about that kind of baptism of it, but I told, I told Kelly, this was like a couple of days after I said, look, I know at some point, you know, especially when we have kids for fortunate to have kids and we're giving them life lessons. That's what it's all about. Apparently you've been through the thing they're going through more or less. And I said, you know, the fact that we'll be able to sit down with our kids and say, you know, when your mother and I were, you know, your age or this age, we lost everything and we figured it out. And I know that as a couple, that really is going to just make us stronger. Um, we didn't have any cracks before, but certainly like when you go through something like this, um, you know, it bonds you in such a, in such a way. And then she told me, stop bright siding me. I said, what the fuck is bright siding? She goes, it's this term I'm learning on Instagram. It's, um, or TikTok. She's like, bright siding is when you're telling somebody this thing, no matter what it is, something traumatic. And they're like, well, look on the bright side, you know, you have your health. Yeah. And it's like, it kind of invalidates the thing they're, they're going through. But I know what you're talking. I know for me, I guess I feel that more like when I move, if I ever move, and you go through everything you own, you're like, oh my God, that's what I don't care about half this shit. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, spring cleaning. I'm like, dude, that's a horrible comparison. Yeah. Um, but yeah, no, but it's, it's valid. I had a, I had a, uh, this director, I worked with his house burned down and he, he felt like it was, um, and we know, right, you shouldn't have attachment to things, right? That doesn't, that doesn't really, really fill you up as much as relationships do and this and that, but, um, the things I'm talking about, they weren't, even though they're considered material, it was just, yeah, that's true. That's the other field of just like not having a, whatever home means to you, like a place where you go back, it's yours. Like we've been getting kicked out of rentals. Like they tell you, we have it for three months. They're like, I know how somebody else coming in. So that, that just kind of thing. Damn. But yeah, man. Yeah, it's all good. Well, thanks for entertaining some of those questions. Yeah, I didn't, and maybe you've talked about that ad nauseam, man. And yeah, and I'm sorry if you have, I just didn't, uh, I didn't really think about that. Um, I watched your movie, dude. Yeah, what'd you think? I watched it last night, man. I thought it was really great. I thought it was one of the things you talked about a few minutes ago made me kind of even think about it. It was like, um, when you look around your house, your rental place that you're at now, that there's not even things that are your, like there's not pieces of you that are spaces or memories or you can walk past something and think like, Oh, Kelly and I were there. That's, you know, one of our first vacations or that's where we got a dog or different things like that. Right. Um, and it kind of reminded me of just some of the, uh, like the archives that, um, cause the movie's called eternity. And it's basically, can you just give me a brief summation of what it's like? Cause you'll do a better job. So when you die, uh, they, you get put with somebody and, and then you, you know, you take a train and then you get kind of deposited, deposited in this like grand central station meets like world's fair kind of place. You get an afterlife coordinator and then they, the rules are you, you know, you get to live eternally, you pick an eternity, but once you pick, you're in that for, you know, forever. And so the eternities have different themes. There's like capitalism world or like, uh, smoking world. Yeah. Marilyn Manson world. Yeah. Marilyn, yeah. Manson world. Chocolate world. Yeah. You can get down with, you know, what, yeah, whatever. Somebody was like, I want to eternity where it's like, uh, Miami beach, spaghetti and cocaine. I was like, well, that's Miami. I think you just, you can actually go there now. Yeah. That's a night at carbone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, carbon is so good. Carbon is good. Oh my God. Um, yes. Yeah. But I thought it was just beautifully shot. I just thought it was really, just a really original script. You know what I mean? It's like, it's so original. Um, and it makes you think about like, you know, if I do pass away, it gives me, it gave me like, um, well, you will pass away. Oh yeah. Now I'm just thinking, well, I don't know, biohacking is crazy right now. A lot of haters. Yeah. A lot of haters in here. If I do pass away. Well, yeah, but it was great because your, uh, your character's wife, um, all Elizabeth Olson, Elizabeth Olson, right? She, uh, passes away and then she has to choose between her first love. Yeah. This dude who's been waiting, he, he passed away in the Korean war. He's been waiting like 60 something years for her. Right. And you who are at the track, kind of like at the grand central station now, you guys are both kind of waiting for her in a way. Yeah. Well, I didn't know he was, I didn't know he was still waiting for her. Uh, are we giving away too much of you think? No, that's, that's in, I think that's like in the trailer. Yeah. It's all like in the first 10 minutes. Yeah. Um, but it's kind of fascinating because then she shows up and now you two are kind of vying for her affections. Yeah. Um, and then who does she stay with? Does she stay with this first love that she lost and didn't get to have a life with, or does she stay with this love that she already got to have a life with? Yeah. And it's just, uh, and there are, there was like, I was, there was some people who were telling me, um, you know, it's like, Oh man, that's, that's my, my nightmare. You know, people that have been, you know, had, you know, been widowed and moved on this and that, but look, I think it, but it does, it really makes you think about, um, yeah, your own life and what's beyond and, you know, family and, I don't know. Well, and how long love lives. Yeah. I think that was part of it. Like I remember when I've done, and there's a little bit of a weird, uh, sidebar, but like when I've done like, uh, DMT, it's like the only feeling that you're left with is that the only important feeling as it feels like you're leaving the existence is that love was the most important thing and that everything else was just a complete fool's errand. Yeah. Um, and also that, um, well, cause what you're talking about, but you get this feeling that your, your consciousness, which is who we are is really, you know, this really is just kind of this, um, vessel, this physical form, but it is, but who you are exists when you ever, you've been in a situation where you feel like you've left, uh, your body, um, but you still, you know, think like yourself. You still feel like yourself and that, that kind of remains intact. Yeah. Um, yeah. That's a good. Yeah. And we're not saying that you know what I'm talking about, but we're just saying that, that yes, the consciousness of who we are still exists outside of our vessels. That's what certain experiences have made me feel like. Yeah. And that that consciousness is still able to, to evaluate that love is so important. Yeah. That's one thing that I thought. No, but also I've thought about that too. I'm like, I think the most important thing in life for me really is, you know, it's like relationships, you know, to me, that's the thing when I'm, I imagine when I'm sitting there on my deathbed, if I'm lucky enough to. If you die. Yeah. If, if I die, um, too, because we have a new package for you. Right. Sure. I can't wait. Um, give me that longevity, you know, whatever it is. We got a new, we got a new peptide for you. Perfect, dude. Um, you know, Kelly will show me like one thing somebody talked about some product. I'm like, yeah, sure. Sounds good. Was it B pollen sperm? Like, yeah, I can put in a smoothie, babe. But no, but it's, it's like relationships. Like to me, that's, that's what I'm thinking. I'm not going to be thinking about all this, you know, that, that Bronco or that movie or that I'm going to be like, man, be thinking about, you know, my wife, my, you know, my buddies, my, you know, my family, my, um, my relationship with when they were higher being I have. And I think that's kind of the, and that's what I get the most, um, like the return from, um, what you put into relationships. That's what, that's what you're going to get back. I just think that's, that's always kind of led me. I want a good path in life. Yeah. It's like, I know sometimes I feel like I've almost spent too much time working. One of the nice things, like I recently kind of have gotten a take a break from touring, because I'd been kind of touring pretty heavily for like four or five years. Yeah. And maybe really for probably 15 years and, uh, and so like, I've been able to like go to football games and like maybe try to plan a date and go on a date, you know, not be like, try to pick up the pieces all the time and stuff like that. And like, yeah, just things like that to be able to see a friend, like a couple weeks in a row or know that you're going to be able to keep the relationship going. Stuff like that is, um, yeah. And when it's not just sandwiched in between it's like, okay, I have one and a half days, you know, I have this thing on Friday, you know, this thing on money, whatever. Um, yeah, that's never. Enjoyable. It doesn't feel real. It doesn't feel like any space to have some time to yourself. And I like, even with filming, man, I've kind of always been pretty good. Obviously if it's, I have no problem going like back to back to back. If it's the right thing, but other than that, uh, it's for me, it's got to be really special because you just, you take time. Like I enjoy my miles life. I enjoy my life with my friends and my family and you know, Kelly and this and that. So, uh, to have the time to, like you said, kind of nourish those relationships is so important. Yeah. You know, and just figure out who like, I don't know, get back to what you like. Yeah, man. Yeah. I thought it was interesting how in the movie, oh, who is the, um, so you get to like the Grand Central station, right? Like the sort of this purgatory type of place and they connect you with an afterlife coordinator. And then the funny thing is, yeah, there's like, it's almost like this mall of like afterlife, they're trying to sell you or shop to you. It's like, Oh, here's one. It's just a bad bath and beyond forever. And you're just in a place. You're in a candle and lotion shop forever. Or here's one. It's at the beach. You're at the beach forever. We're skiing forever. And it's like all the, it's like, uh, uh, you know, um, Willie Nelson world. It's just like everybody there looks like Willie Nelson. And that's all they do. There's some people that love, you know, you guys love the same shit. Right. So you can, yeah. And you get to go there and you're going to meet other people that love Willie Nelson and it's going to be Willie Nelson forever. Right. Oh, yeah. Um, but they give you like this afterlife coordinator, like you said, uh, and those characters were great in years, man. Thank God. Devine Joy Randolph, who won the supporting actress Oscar for the holdovers. Um, and then John early, who is a, I'm sure some people watching this like know who John is, he's, he's got some really incredible standup specials. Bring him up. I wasn't, I don't know if I was familiar with him or a couple of shows too. John's, he's impressive, man. Bro, they were killing me, dude. Some of the looks he was giving. Yeah, I know. He was pretty sassy in this movie. I love. Oh, it was hilarious. Yeah. I got to touch base with this guy. Yeah. I got to watch more of his stuff. Um, but yeah, dude, that was great. And then how, uh, yeah, it was just like, man, she'd had this love that had died in the war, you know, and it was like, oh, and she'd waited. And then she'd met you. And yeah, it was just like, and then like, there was this moment where you realized that. Yeah, I don't want to give any, I don't want to give any more away. Um, but it was also harrowing to think of like how many, how many widows were, how many women were widowed by war, you know? Oh yeah, right? Like how often that happened. Pull that up actually. Can you see how many, um, when we're widowed by? Yeah, I mean, I forget what they said. The average lifespan was for, nor when they stormed Normandy, but it was, they're getting mowed down. Wow. It says for war, war, war one alone, approximately three to four million women were widowed due to the roughly 9.7 million military deaths. Wow. Wow. Other conflicts show varied figures. Um, yeah. Cause also women were married, uh, pretty young. Do you like touring? Yeah. You almost get addicted to it though in some ways. Yeah. Because it's, it's a great time. It's fun. Peep. You want to go see people that want to pay attention, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I liked, I would start going to smaller markets. Like we did like 250 something markets over the past four years. Wow. With this tour. Um, and it was, uh, yeah, it's great. But then you start, it does like, it starts to become a lot. It like, it's just, it just, it just, it just was a lot. Imagine you're like, um, yeah, of course you want to, you know, that's, you want to see everybody, you want to make everybody happy. Yeah. And that's like, whenever I go somewhere and, uh, you know, if there's some event, you know, an event and you can tell, okay, these are actually fans. These aren't just, you know, scalpers or dudes trying to sell your autograph. It's like, yeah, of course I make movies for people to, to like, to see them. And so the fans are a product of that. It's like, yeah, I love, I love doing that stuff. You just feel like, yeah, of course we're in the entertainment industry. Yeah. You know what I mean? It doesn't exist in a vacuum. Like you want to bring a smile to somebody's face, especially those smaller markets that don't get the kind of the acts that, you know, the other spots do. Yeah, we've had so much fun, I mean, from places like Casper, Wyoming, to Beaumont, to Toledo. We've done like so many marketing, they were like, oh, well, these other places that we can go to, and then we'll do like a lot of just meet and groups after the show. We'll just go pop out and meet people. So, you know, you'll be sitting out there, you know, sitting out there just hugging people and like checking in on folks and like getting a temperature of humanity and stuff like that. And it feels good. It almost feels in a little way like you live everywhere, kind of in some ways. Um, cause you realize that there's just so many great people, you know, who are like a lot of like, are all kind of searching for some of the same things, you know, um, I think with our, with this podcast, it's sometimes it's a bit more than just kind of like jokes and information. Sometimes it's like, just like kind of creating a connection, you know. Um, yeah, show me that chart again, man. Thank you for asking though, man. Yeah, yeah, of course. Um, the civil war had 620,000 to 750,000 military deaths, high widowhood. Uh, let me see. World War I estimated around 325,000 widows. We'll, World War II, around 405,000 widows Korean war. And that was the war that, um, your co-actor died in, in this movie. Yes. Around 36,000 widows. But yeah, I mean, you just think of all those women. And there was a moment where she said she went and sat at the boat docks and was waiting for his, for the boat. He was on to come in. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so I think that was one thing that was neat about, um, eternity to me was like, there's this fun like thing going on where you guys are like, you know, figuring out these different world, like the afterlife and it's super entertaining. But then there's also like, there was this sort of like emotion, like kind of pretty emo emotional stuff going on with like, yeah, how do we look at love? And like, if you've already gotten to live one love, if you got to go back would you choose a different one? And, uh, yeah, it was just, yeah, it's certainly, I mean, what I enjoyed about reading the script and kind of when we performed it was that it does, it never loses its kind of grounding and, and the stakes and the sincerity of it. There's some really funny moments and there's some kind of, um, you know, but that nothing ever becomes like slap. So it's not, it's not a movie. We're just trying to get in as many one-liners as we can. I think it's, it always kind of, um, it's just a delicate balance between having that sincerity and the love. And also, I think I do think it's really funny. Yeah. It's like, it's just, and we had, after the, we did the premiere in Toronto, man. We just had, like at the after party, you could just tell people were kind of coupling off and just talking. It just makes you think. I think it's a beautiful, a beautiful film. Um, one of my favorite parts too, just writing the beginning when they're driving in that car together, dude. Oh yeah. I could have watched those two people in that car. That's the Northeast, dude. But also it's just couples that have been around for that long, just this natural, just kind of, you're not going to offend me. And just bullshit banter, bicker and complaining. And they're both, neither one of them is saying everything they're doing is just kind of like making the other one, like whatever. So they're saying a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I think my wife and I secretly enjoyed it, like kind of fucking annoy each other. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's probably part of love. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Like a little bit of annoyance, a little bickering. Um, I didn't realize that, um, uh, Elizabeth Olson. Yeah. I didn't realize that she was related to Mary Kate and Ashley Olson. Yeah. Yeah. I had no idea. I know. I'm pretty dynamic. Family. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's wild. Did you get to meet them? Did they come by the set? Uh, they did not. No, they did not. It's so crazy. Because they had a childhood start on my life. That had to be so odd. Yeah. I know it tends to, I mean, and they've become very successful, you know, in the design space. Absolutely. I think it's, it's, it's tough. Oh, um, it'd be a nightmare. Do you feel like it affected you? If I was that, what? Did you feel like you started to become popular at a pretty young age? Do you feel like you were kind of baked into you already? Or do you feel like if it had been earlier, like, do you have any thoughts about that? Like, I think, I think for me, things happened, uh, kind of at the pace that, that lined up with my own kind of maturity or life experience. Cause, you know, it's like, I went to, went to college for four years and, and trained there. And so yeah, I was like 22 when I did my first movie, maybe like 20, maybe I was like 24, 25, when Footloose came out and the project X and that kind of thing. And that was doing some college comedy type stuff. So that was all good. I think had I gotten, you know, really famous when I was like 17, um, I mean, I was raised really well. I, you know, I never had to worry about my parents or somebody taking money from me, you know, which happens a lot. It's really unfortunate. Um, that's, that's really a shame to lose trust. Uh, that young from love when I think that's going to fuck you up for the rest of your life, um, truly. Oh, that's a good point. But yeah, for me, it was pretty, it was like, honestly, pretty, pretty organic. I never, I felt like I was able to handle. And also I moved when I moved out to LA, a bunch of my boys, uh, from high school all moved out. So I didn't, I didn't like need anything from LA. I was, I didn't come to LA to like find myself. I'm like, no, I know who I am. And me, you know, me and my buddies get a house or whatever in the valley. And, um, yeah, I always had like familiar faces around me. Oh, that's so nice. Even my agent, I met her on my first movie. She's been the same ever since. Like that shit to me hasn't, hasn't changed. Yeah. You know, I think I was lucky in that sense that a bunch of my boys were like, yeah, we'll go. Dang. Yeah. That's dope. Dude, were they acting too? Uh, the one, the one moved out, we played a band together in high school. I think he was trying to do something maybe music wise. Uh, but no, yeah. It's a tough getting LA is hectic. What was y'all's band name in high school? Uh, we were, we were the mutes because we played the, we all started cause we played like the homecoming parade and then the electric, the power went out for our generator. So the amps, there was no sound. Um, so that's enough of a reason to, you know, that's a band name right there. I think we actually were playing for SWAT, like on the SWAT flow, which was, uh, really like this SWAT team. No, like students working against tobacco. Yeah. You don't remember SWAT. It was like dare and like SWAT. No, dude. We had a, bro, we had a dare officer named Mr. Bob and RIP. He passed away. Everybody knew he was, but he would like pull up and he was, he was a humongous man and this is back when if a man was very, what is, what does dare stand for again? Drug abuse, resistance, education. Cause I can only just, I instantly just think of whatever the, the ones that people would make up their own. Oh, the meme ones. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. What are some of the meme dare ones? I don't even know if I know any of them. Now I just remember in high school, people would say, oh, drugs are really expensive. You know, or. Yeah. Well, especially in Florida, if you got some good drugs, but dude, SWAT. So what happened with the officer? It was students working against tobacco. Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah. Working against tobacco. Yeah, there it is, dude. SWAT was big. It's my biggest time surprise for that sketch on the right. Zoom in. That sketch on the right, dude. What the fuck is he doing there? Yeah. See inventors laboratory, big tobacco, like big tobacco is going down. Let's go. I don't even know what the fuck we, cause yeah, they would, I mean, they would have meetings. Bro, that is sketch. I can't even believe you guys. He was locked in with that. Well, that's not my high school. So he was, yeah, but our float probably looks, you just needed some, some do with a flatbed and they just throw some streamers on it. Bro, I never heard that in my life. I do. Funny. I've never heard of it. Yeah. Okay. I do remember. Yeah. Try it on perplexity. See what they got. We'll have some of the dairy. So what did this, what did officer Bob, what was his, what was his big moment? Yeah. See drugs are really, drugs are really exciting. Don't actually recover ever. Whoa. Jesus. Heavy. Drop everything and run. Yeah, those are, yeah, but it was a lot of it was like people screaming, I won't do drugs or whatever. But officer Bob was huge dude. And one year he pulled up and he could not get it. He couldn't even get out of his car, right? So we had to do the talk from a megaphone from his vehicle. And people were like, what, and it just sounded like so garbled and stuff. And like, and then they went, how to sack a weed in some kid's bag or whatever in the audience and a dog would just go, like a real bag of weed. Yes. Or something that the dog could smell. So I'm guessing it was. So just, okay. Because it was like, we put weed on one of the kids and all the kids would be like, you know, and then they just sick of fucking German shepherd on the kid. Yeah. Jesus, dude. Yeah, pretty awesome. We, dude, there was some weird, there was some weird stuff in my high school to Florida. And every teacher's coach, every, every teacher in our high school was coach because they used to coach a basketball team or the coach. I remember one dude, he coached the, it's like the debate. Or something and you still, he was still coach. Oh, dude. Yeah. They just pick like, whatever the lesbian teacher was at our school was also had to be the drama teacher for some reason. Like. That was ours for a minute. Our softball coach lesbian ended up a couple years after I graduated. She was having a relationship with like a sophomore. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate. And that's Florida. That's, I don't know. I don't know what that is, but that's a lot of the time. It's Florida. It's Florida and that's softball. Yeah. I don't know if it is or not, but yeah, there's a lot of inner. I've never been down to Key West though. Key West like my happy place. Is it? Yeah. Just killer lives. Some of the best, I think the best live music countries like there, Austin, obviously, like Nashville, um, yeah, Austin or Key West, man, just killer music. You just either you're walking around the whole time or, you know, if we go to a big group, everyone's just on these like little scooters. Every bar looks like it just went through a hurricane. Yeah. I gotta go down there. It's so fun, dude. I always hear Nick Swartzson loves it down there. Oh yeah. He lived down there for, he was just supposed to go for like a couple of weeks or something, stayed at this hotel for something for like months. He's been like spending a shit. Yeah. He's been like spending a shit. I think like almost just under a million. That's hard in Key West too. Because you will get the moisture still for like a quarter during happy hour. Oh dude. I don't know how you fucking spend a million bucks. Actually, he needs to write a book. That has been a million bucks. Yeah, I spent a million bucks in Key West. Oh my God. Dude, you like, he's a fucking John Daly of Key West. Yeah. Um, what was I gonna fucking talk about? Oh man. Oh dude. Oh, they busy. Oh, this. I feel like somebody's been blowing weed smoking. John Daly, baby. But Swat, um, this. Students working against tobacco. Yes. Yeah. And because if they're not doing it. That's true. Back goes just running rampant. It's like an Agatha Christie novel. They're still rocking and rolling. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing. Swat is flowing we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we No, you this was a this was an experimental program Dude, there's 400 there's 40 high schoolers vape now. Yeah. Oh, yeah There's 4300 active youth though in the swat Swat youth in the state of florida and so uh shout out to them Um, we had this thing. So we had to build a float one time. It's for the homecoming parade And my buddy patrick we had to make like this tree ours was like the tree of life or something or whatever Or keep growing or something like that. And my buddy patrick he was gonna We're like dude patrick you stay in the tree stay in the middle light up a blunt in there and just Blow smoke out of the like if you blow enough smoke Yes, some of it will just we'll just keep a hole in the top of the tree some of it will leak out So we're pushing this down the street and everybody will uh Well, and nobody will know but there'll be just you'll be in there to super high and it's all like, you know Oh, you're saying not okay. So I was thinking like you cut a hole out of the trunk So it's like his face and just like Roast and blunts or something but you're saying just a little hold just so he could breathe But he was hot boxing this tree. Well, we forgot about a breathing hole We just thought put him in the tree truck in the trunk of the tree the trunk is fully built around him It's like this whole paper mache and wire setup that's going to be on a float And then there's this big kind of bulb a head a top of him almost like a very small Water tower would be kind of look and that is all adorned with green paper machine Everything that's a big tree and we'll put a hole on top of that So patrick you just stand in there keep smoking months and some of the smoke will leak out the top It'll be awesome. We'll love it and you'll be He was so fucking high dude, it's like a two hour break. Yeah, and you couldn't see any of the smoke coming out It was just him like smoking countless black and mild blunts in this tree and then we got in there dude Oh, he didn't he couldn't go to school for one whole week He couldn't go to school for one whole week dude his mom had to stay home with him He was it was the most high person that we'd ever seen in our area It was fun couldn't go to school for a week and he hasn't been Had been the same since he hasn't yeah, he hasn't been the same Um, what was something like how long did you guys? How long did you guys uh patrick? It's gonna be awesome dude He's gonna sit there. He's smoking much we easy. What you know And sometimes you would at the for the first like two blocks you get here in bl Can y'all see the smoke but after that? There was no sound coming out of there. It was almost like he's probably dead. 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I just think it's important that um You know kind of right off the bat people understand it's like I'll be here for anything you need Because a lot of the time, you know, if you got a maybe for the shot or whatever the the eye lines tight They want you to work with just like a you know an x on the thing and some people are really good working that way for me I have to Feel the connection with you know whoever i'm working with and so For a bigger budget movie sure there's certain things that you can kind of build into your contract to make you as comfortable as possible But at the end of the day, I don't really I don't really give a shit man. I'm pretty low maintenance It's just like whatever Whatever we need to do to make the best movie possible Um, you know i'm in i'm fully in anything you need for me. I'm i'm here and also I think I approach film or just acting in general like I mean I grew up loving you know, I played sports and every sport up, you know, it's like team sports always um and playing music and that kind of Just being a link in the chain like to me that's you know That's how it has to to happen So I enjoy I enjoy that camaraderie enjoy that teamwork as I've moved up in my career It's I take it upon myself to really like lead from the front You know if i'm number one on the call sheet like it's a It's and if i'm producing the thing like it's important to me to know everybody's name and You know just to feel like we're all we're all kind of in this thing together. I think When you're making a movie and you're just kind of you come out for your stuff go back to your trailer Um, it's fine and everybody works differently, but just for me. I need to really feel that kind of camaraderie Part of the squad. Yeah part of the squad man. Um Yeah, it is so much fun like even like being on it being Because the fact that something gets created really out of nothing right like there's words get created and put onto a page and then You want to make sure there's enough writing is probably the hardest out of all of the the disciplines I can't imagine just staring at a blank page, you know page one scene one Um, you don't start thinking about you don't do that stuff. What right? Will you write a script or no? No, I'm I I think I'm better at when um You know if writers already have an idea or I can make I feel like I'm good at kind of collaborating Um within the scene work and framework of the script and all certainly um Kind of helps shape things 100 I think most Actors through improvisation or through, you know talking with the writer absolutely inform, you know the material to a good amount Some scripts you don't really need to touch at all. Um, but I think I'm better at coming in I don't have the first idea, but I'm good at okay. That's great and and now this Um, but also I I truly believe in like best idea wins And so when you work with a director who's really collaborative and whose ego Isn't so precious to where they can um take um You know inspiration from you know the people around them. I think that's that's really beautiful. I think you have to feel Collaborative. I think the only time I get upset when I'm filming is when I feel like I'm working with like a dictator Um, and that I don't feel comfortable to kind of speak speak up um About I don't like close-minded people Close-minded people to me. That's when I um, I guess I don't like I really don't like authority figures And I thought getting in the arts like that's kind of the that's a great path for me because we're all you know It's collaborative medium in nature But I just I don't like when people lead with an iron fist too much. Yeah Yeah, it's kind of crazy, dude. Um What did I see? I'm trying to think of something else. Oh one part of the movie that was interesting to me was There was a moment where they were kind of Where she had chosen an eternity so she chooses one of the men But then they can you can go look at archives you can kind of go back into a museum of your life Yeah, that's a really it was an interesting part of it. Yeah, it was just neat to see like Like how that it's just nice to see that if if that happened like if we pass away, which you are a believer of That that we get to go through almost like this zoo where there's different exhibits of scenes from your life That yeah your memory. Yeah your memories. Yeah, you know, I think people I think that term like core memories now is something that's kind of become Invoked. Yeah, that was kind of fantastical. Oh, but that was one thing that I thought was pretty dope about it. Um Oh, what about a heist movie dude? I just saw this heist See if you can see how about that loot the Louvre. That's it, bro. That's the I mean that wasn't a movie. That's the freaking news dude. Yeah, but that is wild. I mean How the Louvre jewelry heist unfolded On the south side The heist took a matter of minutes bridge cream. Here's how it happened At 9 30 on sunday Four individuals arrived on scooters in a truck that had Mechanical ladder attached to the back of it two of them ascended to the balcony and used Power tools to carve into the outside window. It's crazy. None of that I mean, I have alarms on my windows if some They burst inside the apollo gallery that houses all of the Louvre's special royal jewels and use their saws To break into two of those cases in the meantime We've been told that the security guards really quickly got people out of that room This very wing of the loop also contains the monalisa. So it was the most sort of Precious things in France are there, but only 75 percent of the rooms have security cameras in them Four minutes later they emerge with eight precious items including tiara Necklaces a beautiful brooch and a crown. How'd they get away? Nick? They escaped out the window and they took off on scooters that they had planted Dude, that seems like almost it would be You just think like more more security. It's like what you and I would decide Two guys would decide like hey, let's go get the Louvre. Let's let's steal that If I can uh, still that crown. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my wife is upset. She doesn't have a crown or whatever. Yeah, and then you're like, all right Let me see how I can figure it out. Give us nine minutes But also it's like so what did then they sell this Like do they take it apart and sell it on the black market? Do they just need to hold on to it until You know like after generation generation and then try and and then say it gets popped up somewhere I don't know. How do you get rid of something like that? Oh, it's almost pretty magical that they were able to do it But I mean I know I think it's yeah, I mean it certainly gives Um, you know truth to these these these high smoothies and stuff. You're like, ah, no way. It's like well, you know Yeah, you can do with just a little saw. Yeah, actually and a scooter You don't even need like switching identities and shits like no But that's what I was running when the dudes in there like banging is like just like carving through this glass Nobody it's like Because obviously it was full of people Yeah, no, that's incredible to me You know quiet quiet down. I can't hear the guided tour over here That's crazy, bro And the Mona Lisa dude Mona Lisa looks more like a dude. I think yeah, but uh, yeah, that was stolen It was stolen at one point not in this but I think Back in the why is it like the 70s or something Mona Lisa was stolen I wonder if it was really stolen or somebody faked having see this is what I think happens sometimes these museums fake having stuff stolen To get people to come to the museum or to add like texture and story to their place Yes, the money yeah 1911. Yes, the Mona Lisa was stolen in 1911 the from the Louvre the Louvre needs to button up, dude The Louvre is like, what are you guys doing? No wonder you keep getting robbed. It's like obviously not that hard Dude, it's a fucking halfway house for art They gotta figure this out, dude He just got a ring camera. My god Like what are you doing? He disgusts himself. He disgusts himself as a museum employee hid overnight inside the museum That's the move and took the painting the next morning by removing it from its frame and concealing it under his smock The theft was not discovered until the following day and the painting was uh hidden in Perugia's apartment in Paris during that time Dude when I was when I was growing up. You can't tell anybody about it Right, you know what I mean? Yeah, you can't even get you can't put it on this display. I have no I really don't know how you move this stuff And you get high and definitely tell somebody. Oh for sure For sure. That's how I mean that's kind of usually how they end up catching. Yeah, you know Criminals on that most one of us like they they slip up. They tell somebody something Bro, I'm so high right now. Don't tell anybody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I murdered a couple people Oh, yeah, great. Yo Wild. Yeah, remember that shit. I told you last night. Like I was just man. We were fucked up You said you murdered someone I said I did like Yeah, we were What uh, you've had so many interesting experiences you got to work with Tom Cruz. Was that pretty fascinating Did you get to meet him before you got to work with him and sorry if some of this seems like a little bit Petty, but I don't know anybody that ever met him. Oh, yeah, no, Tom. I mean, yeah, Tom's Tom's great I flew it was this I had worked with that director before I had done two movies with him I think at that point. No, I had done one movie with him at that point Um, but yeah, I mean I flew uh, I had to audition for it. I think there's they were down to like a couple guys flew and you know, but did uh, yeah audition with Tom. He's he's like he's very disarming I mean I but for some reason I I didn't feel like I was going to be nervous around him I have like obviously an immense amount of respect for the guy But he's he's such like a consummate professional and he is he's one of our great great actors Um And his filmography I think if you attach commercial and critical I think this run that he's you know, it's went on multiple times. There's careers going to be very hard to to touch Um, but yeah, he's he really cares about the work and he labors over He labors over the script. I mean we would go We wouldn't meet we would have a meeting or filming is like, all right We're gonna meet we're gonna talk about you know, this scene that exists on page like 50 or something But you always start page one scene one and you start from very beginning And then three hours later when we've had all these side conversations about just different parts of the script By the time you get to the scene you met we're there to meet about it's like, uh, well it's time to go We'll meet tomorrow But nobody works harder. Uh, he knows everybody's name um He's first one in last one to leave But that that movie I mean that move yeah that movie took a A long time Uh to make everybody was so committed and also like you have to work In part and parcel and in concert with the navy, you know, I mean navy doesn't stop being the navy So if we're filming on a carrier, we're filming it, you know in top gun or we're filming all these plays these guys are actively, you know training um non-stop so Uh, yeah, it was a lot. It was it was a lot to kind of work out Yeah, so you're having to like work like in between certain days while they're doing stuff or at night while they're yeah Like I remember when we were on the carrier we could maybe we had like, you know, uh, two hour window for something to be up on on the top deck um But yeah, that was yeah, we're on the carrier for two weeks. I remember I I walked by this one sailor I was like one of my first few days being there and even though you're on this giant carrier Like you feel like you're on a submarine because the hallways are very cramped. Everything is metal. There's nothing for for Comfort there's nothing extraneous like that is an active carrier. It's um, it's a wartime, you know carrier Um, but it's very it's very it's a weapon. Um, I mean we're launching, you know aircraft from it. Um And so But when you're walking around I mean all the hallway everything is so tight Even though it's this massive vessel And I walked by this one sailor and I was like, hey, I was like living the dream, huh? He just turns me and he goes nightmares are also dreams And he said it's so cold. I was like that is we're on the theater at roseville Yeah, um But no, I just I don't know. I have so much um nightmares are all nightmares are also dreams. Yeah, because I mean That's a good depending on what your job is on that carrier I mean your job placement you might be seven or eight, you know decks below and You know just the nature of Uh operations sometime like you're kind of That's kind of your your territory. Oh, yeah, absolutely man. Um, do you start so much respect for oh, yeah When you think of the terrorist best What people go through we're trying to maybe have gary sinise come on. I know he's he is there's nobody that's done more Yeah, that guy is it's truly been his like life's mission Um, yeah, he's fantastic to support veterans. Yeah, absolutely because it's not like the va Like because I did this movie about guys coming home from wars called. Thank you for your service and it was based on this book um real guys and That's kind of what you learn. It's like the va is not broken. It's just overwhelmed um, and so you know and for guys to kind of unpack And our writer director was telling me is like, you know miles We've known how to send guys to war men and women to war for centuries Since the beginning of time we've known how to create a soldier, but we still don't really know how to bring them back Um, and it is it's really it's really complicated those programs That are you know working for you know, non-profit. They can only take so many people funding is really important Um And it's just we people sorry go on. No, I was just saying it's it's really It's really tough and also just with mental health in general um, the amount of training that it takes for somebody to be able to um Appropriately deal with someone with you know, if it's ptsd if it's bipolar if it's schizophrenia, whatever it is It takes a really uh takes a long time to train somebody Um and to be able to get them to sit with the person and be able to potentially, you know Change their men's a little bit somebody that they trust somebody who has those skills Um to deal with it. It's very tough And yeah, that's actually something I'm uh, yeah, I have a lot of advocacy for I think And also when you talk to people I think most I think a lot of people have somebody, you know in their Family or with friends that are you know dealt with that and it's it's it's just yeah, it's really tough Um, I think I have yeah just meant some amount of empathy and that stuff's always, you know More or less it always kind of some traumatic event happened at some age and that leads to um, you know these these mental health issues Yeah, that's such a great thing We don't know how to bring these people home and then how much that like a you know Even at a governmental level how much value, you know Should there be just as much of a training an untraining program? You know as much as you're training people for military and for combat Should there be just as much of an untraining and also these guys, you know Would they the guys that they go to war with those are the guys that understand more than anybody what they went through But then you know they go from being in you know, battalion and you know being those guys and then they come home and everybody kind of disperses and You know, it's uh, yeah, it's it's tough Well, it's like you were saying earlier just like being able to be part of a group and have that you know And then suddenly it's different or suddenly even if you're shared life experience You're put on leave or something because you're in mental condition And then that's got to be even scarier because now are you maybe struggling but also you're away from your group right and also each like each You know depending on what job you're going for in the military, you know infantry different branches You know, you need it's a numbers game We need numbers at all times and so some of these you know some of the boot camps are you know x amount of weeks And it's like here you go and here's your gun and um When you get more kind of I guess uh tier one senior Yeah, we're i'm just saying like our special forces guys. I mean those those guys have been through you know, uh a lot of training and they're they're You're usually not in those groups until you're you know, you're certainly not 18. Um as a Navy SEAL it takes you know Yeah, a couple of years Yeah, it's been um, it was I was at I went to this to this football game last take on to the venerval football game and There were two did you go to Vandy? I didn't but they just happened to be in Nashville and I became buddies with uh Their quarterback and that quarterback's a real deal. He's yeah, bro. He's such a great guy. You would love him, dude Yeah, he's come we went to UFC fight together actually you weren't at that one um I've been out of the mix for a little bit just because with the house stuff but seven months ago. Maybe I don't remember which one it was Uh, I can't hear how great are those That's the best. Well, dude, you know at the end of the day, they're gonna fight Yeah, and there's just and the time in between is great You know it's hang for the chat and then it's just when that music comes on forever's coming in just the crowd I think mass in squirt garden, especially Or it's good, you know, or I imagine you were at some of those counterfights during his heyday. I got to go to one with him and uh, Dustin that was it but when he came out it was just yeah, I think I saw you. I yeah, I saw you at that one Yeah, I know Dustin's your guys It's a shame when that kind of generation you're on out to the next Group of fighters, but yeah, Dustin's is the man They have so many great guys But also being at those events is so much fun and you also realize that you are nothing like because there's some Bad ass coming out. I think it's like no matter if you think you're cool or not You were sitting there looking in awe at some warriors. You know that when it comes down to it like they're the p Yes, it's one on one You know what I mean, and it's just like such a test of will and and like and man or woman and like what do you Like it makes you ask yourself a lot of things. It's yeah, I find that whole world's pretty fascinating I even remember in high school, man, like, you know, I'd be you know, I played baseball and Um, were you pretty good in high school? I was yeah, no, I pitched up until I guess I took me a minute to hit my gross bird Um, but I was like, you know stud, you know kind of early years and then um, oh there's probably I'll say, you know, even with the football players like the wrestlers when you looked at the wrestlers condition compared to the football players Like you couldn't even compare like a lot of my buddies or wrestlers. They're cutting 10 12 pounds in high school Like to have that discipline at 15 to be like now i'm skipping lunch. I gotta you know, I gotta sweat I gotta do a sauna suit or just Yeah, be crazy not a discipline for those guys. I remember driving through my neighborhood and my buddy paul would literally be running And this is when we even know we had a wrestling team in our school, right? I think it was like the first year they started He'd be running down the street in a bunch of trash magnets and shit like oh my god Like he did something bad at home or whatever like we just didn't know what it was like a punishment Yeah, that's it. It's I mean it was crazy. Yeah, but yeah, dude um Do you start to think like okay, so now you have like kind of like a filmography of your own work? I don't know if that's the right term, but it's the right word. Um, do you start to think? Okay? This is a genre I would like to do or I love that so much I'd like to find a more unique way to do that like is that something that an actor starts to think about Uh, how do you start to think about do you start to think about a little bit of like how many movies you want to do? Or like what kind of things come into your mind like at your kind of juncture in your career? Uh, as far as the work goes. Yeah, I think when I first Started out and even I guess when I was in college and be doing different scenes and stuff in class I always wanted to like I enjoyed Uh dramas much as I you know enjoyed comedy. I actually kind of started out when I was in high school um You know, everybody kind of knew me as like the class clown and I would play like the comedic relief in plays and stuff And then I remember doing this very serious monologue and the whole class just started laughing like they couldn't take me seriously And I remember that pissed me off because I was like, oh, I've lost my audience like they're I They just oh, they're locked into that. I'm a clown. Yeah. And so they like I was like, oh shit. Okay. I Okay, now I need to kind of work on this other stuff I was like because like nobody I didn't want to like not be taken, you know, seriously for something Um, but so I knew starting out like I always I had an appetite. I think that's really what it comes down It's like what are your interests? So I've done movies with music. I grew up playing a bunch of instruments. I've I haven't done a sports movie yet Love sports, uh, military and my family and my friends. I've done some that so I've done like a good amount like blue collar stuff, um I like that but I think as far as the genre goes Everyone's well, yeah, you'll watch a film Or maybe it's a certain director who works in a certain genre. You're like, yeah, I would love to do that um But I think yeah, it really just comes down to like taste and interest. I think I have a pretty wide Um range of of interest and I don't really necessarily care what the Genre is as long as it just feels authentic to me. Can you feel that you can make a bad version of any genre? Yeah, I guess you can just feel that when you read the script you're like I can I can see this I can figure this out Yeah, I I think I've been fortunate enough to now in the beginning of Of most careers, right? People are like, oh, why'd you do that? And this that's like, you know, you thought I had like multiple options like what are you talking about like No, dude, you're just trying to work professionally like if you if I if you can pay your bills As I and it's tough man, you know, many like you're starting out it kind of I think like in your 20s, there's a lot of actors Kind of we can all play teenagers this and whatever and when you get older It's like your audience, you know wants to grow with you. You got to kind of mature with them You know, it's like I imagine a lot of my fans now have like kids and stuff, um, you know, and that's great and so I just try to I don't know. Yeah, you I think your best asset would be I guess when you read a script if if I think it's good um, is it and I for the most part I've kind of just went with my instincts and gut But for the most part a lot of my career has been, you know, a director's got to take a chance on you Like I played this boxer Vinny Pazienza. My buddy just sent me a link to it. I haven't watched it yet Yeah bleed for this that's how I met Dana White because Vinny's like Dana's favorite boxer all the time and he loved the movie We loved the movie because that's how I got plugged in with UFC early on Uh, my buddy just he just got in the box and all the fame Vinny shout out Vinny. Oh, we did but he's a yeah He's he's just a dog. He's a Pazienza the Pazmanian devil But um, dude, but he uh, look at him. That's him. Yeah, so he broke his so he was uh He had won some titles early and then he was kind of the the promoters kind of thought he was on the way out You played him. Yeah, so I had like yeah, so there's footage of him I mean with that halo one now meanwhile if you If you You know mess up more or less with that halo one You're you're gonna be paralyzed for life and there's video of him like, you know doing some pretty sick rope work with that halo one Just working out like a madman um I don't want to give it away, but yeah, it's considered like um You know just one of sports all-time great comebacks Hmm Yeah, the only movie I had come out like right before that I was like in fat or not fat, but Pudgy friend shape, you know what I mean? Like I was like, I don't need a six pack. That's just that's bs man like You need a six pack if you can't hold their attention with your acting I mean just all bullshit. I was saying when I was 25 and I used to not like I was like, uh, dude's ripped. He can't act Dang dude, yeah, there's so many great actors out there I think it's so it's just fascinating to watch somebody just be able to create um To be able to carry a story right and just be like an instrument just to be Like a word on a page, you know um What's you know, it's like we're we're shining a mirror up to you know Society really you're just kind of the great actors, right? You you watch them and You obviously believe what they're doing, but then they makes you feel About you know your own life and so it's beautiful. They just really understand kind of the human condition human experience um I think because a lot of young actors will ask her like what do you think's like so important isn't that I said I I go I think um Obviously start from the inside We're from the inside out and I think just two abilities Are curiosities that will really aid you is like, you know just empathy if you're somebody who just You know sees so many different you know way of life and Um, you can feel for somebody other than yourself and and then your curiosity Um, I think that's what's lent me to a lot of um projects I've I've ended up doing just because I think I've always had a just high level of curiosity and empathy for for other people um Where do you think that comes from for you? Uh, I think just yeah, I don't know. I guess the way I was rated. We did we moved around a lot Well, there was my family like on my mom's side. There was a lot of Probably like my grandma. She's she she's she buried all of her kids, but but one And a lot of them died very young And I think I'd come from You know a certain kind of stock uh that And then my you know, my uncle he was a quadriplegic from the time he was like 17 so my entire life spending a lot of time in like nursing homes and Um, you know those kind of environments that can be fairly traumatizing for a young kid to just hearing like beeps and people wandering around with you know, maybe dimension alzheimers and it can be Scary and they're usually not the most well-lit places, but we you know, we're constantly kind of in those in environments, you know and you know feeding him at you know You know meals and I don't know just different things like that. I think that's one I wanted to take care of your grandmother whenever you uh, you know when you guys's house went through that trauma and stuff like that Yeah, I could see that I guess I moved around a lot Like I lived in like five states by the time I was 12. Oh god. Yeah So you have to be willing to open yourself up to people because You got to be liked you got to be accepted. You got to be you got to fit in you got to find a way. Yeah, um I thought she was a kid That's hard for a kid. Yeah, I think it was easier. Well, yeah, well, certainly kind of it's all a part of the I think how our personalized develop Certain things happen in childhood, right? That's yeah You can dig deep to figure out. Oh, that's why I am right. That's why I I do that I think for a kid to move to a new place. That's a lot, you know Yeah, um, I told my parents when we first moved to florida from south jersey. I was like I was like Because I really loved south jersey and I was just like I'm gonna paint my walls black I'm gonna be a goth you're gonna be embarrassed by me. I'm gonna wear marillon man's insurance when your friends come over like Yeah One of my favorite friends No, that's it. Just I'm just thinking back at myself like paint my walls black I'm gonna paint my fucking ceiling fan black Is anybody ever even fucking done that? It's just gonna make black air in the room. Oh, yeah, I uh, my buddy Jeff dude, he was he was hilarious. We would go over to his house And I've told this part of the story before but um, we would I go we all we'd all go outside and get high and then I would come in the house and I would I would come in before everybody. Uh, I would tell, um His dad that they were high, right You fucking asshole. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. Just to like save yourself Just because here's what I love. I loved you were high with him. Oh, yeah I didn't tell him that part. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but I would say that they were high and one And they were seeming some of the behaviors they'd have been doing it seem a little zesty Whatever someone got throwing a little nugget like that and you you couldn't fucking kind of hear his fucking He just put a cigarette out in the lizard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah He'd see him fucking. Yeah Yeah, yeah, he'd put a cigarette out. He just that energy took over and dude If he thought like his if kids were being high and zesty it scared him a little But anyway, then I would sit in there and wait and they would come in And he would just be looking at him and they would it was always like do not tell my dad I'm fucking I was like, don't worry and just seeing the dad fucking faker mouth, bro I would I would lay there in the other room Frying of laughter just knowing that that they're about to get beat. Yes knowing that this whole scenario had been created Yeah, but my buddy Jeff dude, he had this like anger sometimes and he uh would go play that song He had one CD and it was that uh song you got to keep them separated. Yeah, that's all spring Yeah, yeah, yeah, he would go in his room He would beat the drywall out of his room and then every year for Christmas his parents would redo the drywall That was his Christmas present every year It's fucking sick. I had a buddy like that and then uh, he ended up kind of working in a construction and so now he Like even as an adult some shit whatever fucking kick a hole in his wall, but then he's patching it himself like, you know what I mean Yeah, dude. Yeah, and jeff is in the military too. Do shout out Jeff Uh, and shout out the uh the least favorite singer of offspring He came up to a show one time and I told him that story and I waited my whole life to tell him that story I was like, dude, we had so much fun. Um, and my yeah, we just had so much fun, dude Fuck those. I think that's what's nice growing up like in the town. I grew up in such a small town. It's like um Yeah, I mean our if we skipped school it was to let go float down the river And we would go to the walmart and then you know, you say start out just you know, you buy an air mattress for a couple bucks Um, but yeah, you're just sitting in the walmart looking around like, you know, benjamin franklin Like, all right. Well, you know, what do you think we can get to float and I remember one time we got this like Eight foot by four foot kids like swimming pool We fit like six dudes in the end of cooler beer in the middle and you know push off a little bit Okay. Yeah, we're going It's great. I love it. Yeah I know I miss I like I of course you miss it But yeah, I I just like that kind of stuff was so much fun when the world when everything felt so new and the world didn't It felt big in some ways, but it but your view was so Concise kind of well because you're not you're typically not jaded You know, you're not worried about anything at that at that point. That's what I notice when I You just have to eat and lie to your parents when I've shot when I've shot movies in some Uh, you know underprivileged areas Uh, I mean, I'll see these kids playing in What you would basically describe as like a landfill and they're so happy and they're just kicking around trash like it's a soccer ball And you just realize like children like for the most part are innately happy They don't know what else Especially where we were at. It's like they don't know what else out there. They don't know how we're you know living how people are Living in other parts of the the world. Yeah, it's really it's like it's a Um, it's it's touching and it's it's also, you know, it's very sweet and but it's I always Whenever a kid gets kind of their childhood taken away from them too early or they have to become an adult too early That's That's tough. It's like no these like this was the time, you know, if you just be a kid. Yeah Yeah, you think that that would be ought to like it that that that would be kind of guaranteed You know, maybe one day it will be maybe that's where we're all headed. No, it's tough man. It's like I you know, I know You know Some people, you know, adult adulting adult life's uh, you know, really tough for them and because it's tough on them They're their kid, you know, a lot of time is handed a little more. I think responsibility or even just emotional Um, yes stuff. They shouldn't have to think about that sort of thing. That's the craziest Dude, I know a guy who used to wake his kids up and get them to pee for him so we could go do drug tests. Wow Yeah, yeah, they ran a snow cone stand in our town And I'll probably have to take that part out because we don't have a lot of snow cones stand in our town. So People know My town is just yet um Anything else you want to tell us about the film any reason like why you believe like or was there anything like About it that resonated with you after it after having watched it. Did you give notes on the ed? It's just or anything like, um I don't know. Yeah, I just I just think because we had our you know first premiere up in Toronto and it was just really Wonderful after the film like how many people you said because it does it just really makes you think about your own kind of Mortality and love ones but people really wanted to I mean for me those are my favorite movies where you're you know leaves you really thinking Um, but I think it's it's just really it's a really funny Movie, I think it's really sweet and sincere and all of Kelly's girls were we're crying Yes, it's very sweet. It's not like too heavy. I mean some moments that are dealing with heavy I mean, I well you're dealing with something that's maybe inevitable or not based on kind of what you're taking supplements wise and How you take care to take care of the dojo better But it is it's just I was just my wife says her favorite film that I've ever been in her favorite film Maybe of the last like you know however long I and also I feel like it's pretty sweet. I think it's a movie that um I think it can I think it fits with kind of the the classic romantic comedies that are more character driven um And uh, yeah, I'm excited. I'm just really excited for for people to see it Um, and is it coming out in streaming is it coming out in theaters? No, so it comes out in theaters nationwide Uh, like Thanksgiving. Oh sweet. Yeah. Yeah, so great holiday Uh film take your your mom your grandma dad girl, whatever. Yeah, I think anybody a whole family could go see it I think it's that kind of thing. It's certainly that and uh Yeah, I do think some of those questions it kind. Yeah, it made me feel a little bit more upbeat. Yeah, it's just like um, I don't know It's it was something that it's certainly something that I hadn't seen before. Yeah And I thought that was uh, it was very creative It was very creative. Um, and then when you're thinking about love you're thinking about the act Like you're thinking about the choices that we make and stuff like that, you know It made me a little mournful that like there's some moments you never get to it's like Oh, I you know like you'll start to think oh, I didn't have that high school love it last forever, but then it's like But that couldn't even have been a reality in my life. It never would have fit in right But it was just it's just interesting to kind of think about things like that You know, I like I like thinking about matters of the heart and stuff like that Oh, the last thing I was going to tell you so yeah, I went to the venerable game But I saw these two there was two kids there and they were there with their dad and their dad had just gotten back from service He was in uh Qatar and and right when I saw the kids like oh dude, my dad saw you perform in Qatar I'd went over there and did just a um a thing for the military like was it through us or something different? No, it was like they were doing like uh Something something for troops. Yeah, the president was doing something over there and they were doing some troops thing But um, but anyway, it was just they're like, oh dude our dad and you could just tell like I was like Oh, how long were you there for he's like I was there for a year and it was just like I don't know it's just interesting to see this moment and I was I was like are you guys dad? You're glad or are you guys glad your dad is home? You know and you could just see like I don't know it's just You just see the sum of the sacrifice It was just a moment that I had to witness like kind of firsthand a little bit of like the sacrifice that Absolutely that sons deal with that fathers deal with that people deal with to keep our country safe and uh Yeah, it's just touching man. Yeah, this guy the guy that I played and uh, thank you for service Andrews or adam shuman He you know because people say you know, thank you for service and a lot of the time people say that sometimes to Just alleviate their own guilt of having not served but You know I've heard guys talk about it's weird your thank me for something that a I signed up for I wanted to do or you're thanking me for you don't you don't even know what my job was It's just a complicated kind of Decorative term that we use out of lack of of knowing but he Would say the thing that really broke him. He was you know filling up his um Uh, you know his his truck with gas and you know, it's army the big red one and you know guys saw that and you know Basically just kind of shook his hand and you know said like welcome home, you know welcome home son and um, you know glad you got home safe and that's You know, it's it's uh Yeah, it's it's tough. It's but your that's We can do what we do because those men and women are over there doing you know, oh, yeah doing the dirty work I mean our job is built on the freedom of speech, you know Yeah, both of our jobs are built on it. Like yeah, it doesn't even exist if people If people aren't uh making the sacrifice for us Um, but yeah, that would be great to be able to talk with Gary Sinise I know he does a lot with that with the for veterans and um Yeah, it's nice to just be reminded. It's nice to be reminded of a space to another reason to step gratitude for the things we have going on. But also it's like it's different parts of the Like we're you know growing up in florida. I feel like there's so many people that um, you know had family members in the military um, but it's it's a lot more socio like economic Driven now to where the military it's it doesn't feel like the entire country Is really a part of it and it's really happening in very specific pockets um, so it's kind of it'll be interesting in the next like 25 years 50 years of who you kind of have to Live in these certain areas to to have a relationship with somebody who's serving because that's what personalizes it. Um Yeah, that's a good point, man. You know during uh in ancient Rome They used to have the the the politicians were also on the battlefield Which is pretty fascinating. So it was like the rules that they were making if they if they were going to send people in a battle They were going to have to be associated with those rules and I think it would be I mean Who am I to say I didn't serve but it would be you know I think maybe some of the rules who would make might be some of the choices would make might be a little bit different If it felt if you had skin in the game. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's always some value in having skin in the game Yeah, I think that's just a tricky thing Politics general when you just can't recognize the um, you know the the elected officials and the leaders you just feel like you cannot relate to them They can't relate to you on any level Um, and it feels like those margins are getting wider getting wider, right? Dude, that might be a cool. I'm sure there's a cool film out there a lot of cool opportunities Well, man, I hope you continue to serve us in uh in great ways by bringing art to life um and bringing it into video format for us and uh Yeah, thank you so much dude for all the entertainment and for stopping by and chatting Um, thanksgiving week you guys can check out eternity um with miles taller and elizabeth Olson And also my my wife kelly Uh, she's coming out with a like a pajama a robe line. Well that should be holidays. Uh, yeah. Yeah, and I'm just so Yeah, I'm just so proud of her. Yeah, so how'd the get that out there too. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, you guys have been together for how long? Uh, it's almost 13 years Yeah, did you know right when you met her that that was a one? I knew she was like the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen. Yeah, there you go. I appreciate that guys. Um, She's the most pure hearted person I've ever met in my life. I didn't know that obviously when I saw her I was just attracted to her face um You know and uh But then as I've gotten into you know, but then we're pretty inseparable right off the bat But I do remember because I was like 25 dude. This was like very I'd lived in my career Just started and she you know, and I remember my boys my floater boys I moved out with Um, when they start seeing her hanging around more and more. I'm like, yeah, well, she's my girlfriend They're like, what the fuck are you talking about? They're like, why would you have a girlfriend right now? This is our moment This is our entourage moment. Like we rented a house in the valley. We had to pull they're like, this is our time, dude I was like, well, you know I I I was probably like, yeah, am I ready to settle down? No, but also I'm not ready for Her to just leave me either. You know, it's like I don't want this one's not gonna way For sure Dude, that's funny. You buy your bike. That's what best friend. Do we literally like I never get I never get sick of her I like and when I and when I tell people the difference is like You know, most people they have a job nine to five whatever it is and when I'm filming certainly it's like that But when I'm not it's like and she comes with me when I'm filming It's like I see her from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to bed You know, maybe I go work out for a little bit or do something like that But we are with each other All of the time and we we love it like that truly is like that she cracks me up She's very low like she's so hard to rattle to get rattled. She doesn't raise her voice She says being calm is her superpower, but she is she's just like unflappable Um, she's great the unflappable kelly teller. Oh, she's gonna love that She loves you and she has a new pajama line that's out. Yeah, remember the day that I met her You guys were sitting out there out back together, man I think almost every time I've seen you except for that one time that you were dancing by yourself Which is pretty admirable I think I'll see you people. Yeah, my house tellers are dancing by myself. I'm like that dude is doing I took my boy I took my boy to the the fight That time it's so much fun. It's fun to bring your friends, man And it's fun to bring us into your world for a little while. Thank you so much. I appreciate it Uh, check out kelly's new pajamas and um and congratulations, man on everything. Thanks, dude. Yep. Have a good day, brother I'll see the fights. It sounds good. Yeah But when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it