The Miracle Mets: Mookie Wilson, Dwight Gooden, and the Power of Belief

The star that Dwight Gooden was, the impact, it just isn't like that today. So then, like when these guys were doing what they did, it was a different universe. You know, Dwight doing that. Mokey is as popular as any neck you ever. People should love him. He's heart-soul core of team. Dwight Gooden has, in my opinion, it's not statistically, but I believe is dominant a pitch in season. As any would ever has 1.53RA, 24 for unblind, no notes. This curveball would drop from a hitter's hard to his toes. It was the most insane thing to see. Are you kidding me? To my left, Mokey Wilson, to my right, Dwight Gooden. But this is not just a map to all of them, I'm a professional athlete. Two people have been involved in some of those historic moments in baseball and sports history period. This is something particularly special. It's my dad's 80th birthday, John Robert Callaghan. These amazing men, as we are rolling with the Sean Callaghan on the podcast, came to the hospital, hanging out with my dad, tears flowing because, not because they're athletes, not because they're celebrities, because these are people part in their champions. And sometimes it's very difficult for us to relate to people, unless it's in the context of something that's truly special in our heart. They talk about city slippers, sometimes it's not that left to talk about Billy Crystal, talk about his friend, talk about him, his dad, and then baseball. And that's all. And that's sometimes what my dad and I had. And this cake, happy birthday, Mokey and Dwight were there, the most important, my dad. These guys walked in, started bowling crying. What I was talking about the stories, my dad didn't know Dwight and Mokey didn't know you guys were coming. And I was telling the story to my kids in the room, and I'm crying tears coming down my face. I want to get into what it looked all about personally. But let's hear from these guys first. And eating me, you mind your mouth. Let's go first to my left to Mr. Mokey Wilson. Medic Strudner came up when the meds weren't winning. Things weren't happening all the way as you wanted to be happening. And he went from all the way from that to what's been rated the third most, I'm cool with the most amazing moment these boys. Three and two to Mokey Wilson. Little roller up along first behind the bag. It gets through a bug there. Here comes night in the next wedding. And Mr. Mokey Wilson, he reached out a little bit about you, your background, coming up with the meds, where they were, what it meant to you from there, you know, to 86. We're like, how about this from there until Mr. Dwight good and comes to the meds, please? Okay, well, I think that my history is like many young people, you come from humble beginnings, I was going to raise on a farm, family of 12 kids, and I've family. And I'm like, right in the middle, so in boys, five girls. South Carolina, South Carolina. And baseball is something that we did on the weekends because we were tired working. So it was a career. What should you do on the farm? We did everything. What's like the worst thing you ever done? Pick cotton. I don't wish that on anyway. Pick and cotton is one of the worst things in the world. But on picking cotton, corn, on cold, beaten by hand, we don't have the old machines, I'll stop with the fact that we use no gear or hole and a rake in your, your cold, the base. So that's why I grew up. So when you're working on a farm, hey, grown up, Mr. Mokey Wilson. And I'm going to call him Mr. and Mr. Dwight good because there's how much respect the average gentleman. At what point do you begin to think about a future? Like the future looked like, hey, I'm going to live a life where I'm going to be doing working on a farm or the time that you start to think about, hey, that could be a different future. Well, you went out working with the farm and I didn't have much of a plan because bank been most kids when they finished high school. Military was the odd option. It was either military at the fall. I wasn't working on the farm. I had my field work on the farm, but I was looking up to be on the first child in my family to go to college. You know, because of baseball, you know, I worked at college. And when you were at high school, did you say you were going to be a professional? Like what point did you have first had the thought? No. Being a professional baseball player was never in my plan. I didn't think about the future baseball until my second year of college. And that was after I was drafted by the Dodgers, I didn't show you college. It happened. And what round was that? What? Well, do you remember what round? You were drafted. Well, I was drafted. I was drafted. And if I didn't have the discipline of draft, what's in the weather? They called it the winter draft. And I was drafted in the fourth round by the Dodgers. And I did assign because I had no plan. Well, hopefully it's balls all about. So I decided to go back to school. Were you a superstar at high school? Like how different were you in middle school? I did a pistol during the superstar. I was a really good player in high school. I was my biggest role of pitching. Mostly pitching. Pitching in high school. How in college as well? I pitched most of my college gruel at my last year college. And that's why I came in off. And I literally was like, everybody like, okay, here's Mookie Wilson. Mookie's coming up. You leading the league and hits home run. Like as a little leader, or are you just like really good? Or are you like the man? Never played the game. I played my first all in high school. And now I'm going to jump over to my good. That's a lot different. That's a lot different than your story. Right? In terms of baseball and your dad growing up. So if we take it from where you're dad and you start rolling from there as a young boy. Well, yeah. So my dad was from Georgia. Same thing in Mookie making. Small town called American Georgia. Wait, you know, he worked in a small row at one of the young and some five kids from the youngest by 13 years. So I was very spoiled, bro. You know, I never know that. He was poor kid. I was born in a temper and my dad was a baseball coach. He loved baseball. Mike didn't. He only got the one game a week. Well, Saturday's the Joe Gadget over it on. Wow. Yeah, we all went out and braised games on the radio. So when they have a girlfriend night, we'll sit there on my nephew Gary Schafferl. He grew up in the same house. He's my sister's son. And for the second, I'm sorry. I'm going to jump in for things that people don't know. Gary Schaffel was also an incredible, mutually baseball player. And that's Dwight Kuhn's nephew. So imagine they're rolling in this family. Like Dwight Kuhn and Gary Schaffel. He grew up in the same house. For my sister and young, she had a bit of 15. So basically, my parents were just in the group like a brother. We shared the same bed at work time. So all we wanted to do was my baseball. Because my dad coached a little like baseball. He was my pro baseball. Because he was a girl. So I bought it. Did you know it was a great player growing up himself, right? He said he was. I've never seen him. I never seen a play. He's his play was, but no one's in a play. My mom never seen a play. So what? What do I tell you? What though? Today's credit. The one thing I regret before my dad passed, I've never found out where he gets knowledge from. Because he taught Gary. He knew Gary's going to be a hitter. And he said he was going to ask him to pitch. Even though I wanted to be a hitter. But he said, no, you're best. They're going to be a pitcher. He taught Gary to wait. Gary. So we're going to back. That was all for time. He taught Gary about. He taught me about pitching. I had to highlight kick. That was all about time and give my arm time and getting a good place to throw. So he told us all that. We were first go to the park. Like he came on one day for work. He said, how much guys like baseball? I don't remember what my mom said. I told him that one day I went to a TV. So he said, OK. Like coming from all the way to the park. No work on state. So he'll take us to the park. No club. No bat. No ball. So it wasn't fun. You know, Gary's working at thing. Swain is sick. I'm over here going to buy a no ball. No club. Nothing. And so I'll go home into my mom. Yeah, I guess I did as part. Then it's crazy stuff. You don't know what he's talking about. I don't know what he's talking about. You're like, you like Jheropsy the cry to kid. It's like this. Yes, yes. So you're like Daniel, saw wax off. I don't know what you're doing here. So that. So I told my dad I wanted to go. But I'm like, you don't know. You know, he's talking about, you know, I was thinking. Then my old brother told me, no, just stick with it. You know, you got them do that school anyway. And start with it. And then as I started older, I understood. Like if I throw ball, like see that mucky's bad. And from the left side, I'm trying to go down it in the ball, up it away. I would know because my arm catch up. It's like I got here because I was rushing. It's like that. So I do that at the age. Because my dad taught me all about mechanics, which they already teach him. Well, today. So by learning all the different things. And now they have Florida playing baseball. The weather's always great so you can play your route. So even when the season is over, what is the going to meet halfway and play guys from our school that live in different neighborhoods and play? How? That's what we did. And then also like, it up north like in New York, now, in New Jersey, they have stick ball. We used to call it a strikeout where you have a guy. Two guys on team. You got a tennis ball in a bat. You play. And if you hit on one side of the street, no size out. So that's what we grew up playing. And so baseball always wanted to do. Well, the kid on Saturdays, you know, you get up in the middle school. So you have your cereal, or go outside. But I'm always the house. So finally, when my friends play catch red. Baseball, the other thing that I wanted to do, a lot of times you can ask, you do want to play baseball or do you do it? Something with baseball, I'm sure because I'm not nothing else. Baseball was my ticket. I was just forcing off and blessed to play baseball because I don't know what else. And you were big time standouts at a haverger, whatever I feel, or big time standout and little league. As you go to high school. But the high school you play for is like rich and crazy superstar stud baseball players. Like, this is, you know, I'm the numbers guy. You had a guys from your high school getting drafted high. Right beside you. Am I right? Yes. So, I don't know your, my keys. Yeah. Played with the Tigers a little bit. He was just, I think it was 72 and 75 from that year to even after I was, I was a chef for graduate, in the six. There's a number one pick every year from 72 and 75 at a high school. Why? I don't know why. Number one. Number one for high school. We had 25 guys that just found out. 25 guys. 35. They played at my little league park. Not high school, my little league park. They played at least one in it. And the major leagues. That's crazy. Come on, little league park. Right. So, I'm sorry. I don't know. So, my little league, and we try to make Gary try to get that back into our park. We're playing in a city and the kids don't get the same opportunity because traveling baseball now, yeah, all the best players and all the guys can't afford that. So, we try to have clinics and different things like what we played to get that because it's good to give to the nation and the kids, they want to ask questions. They want to touch you. They want to know how did you do it. So, we're trying to get back into that and get them opportunities. But, my high school, I'd say, first of all, I'm going to say we never want to stay. The team we have, we have no one to stay. That's what they took. All the stuff we want to try. That's it. That's it. That's it. And he booked you also, coaching. The staff we had in 1981 for my junior year. Okay. So, we played Tuesday, Friday, Saturdays. Author pitches. Got very flood-based. Big lefty. While six, five, six, six. No more pick with the dollars. Here's the Naranasi deal. We had Albert Everett. Albert Everett. No more pick by the twins in 1981. As cornerers, all the brothers. And Floyd Yomans, with another tier pick by the Mets in 82, I couldn't break the rotation. I was a relief pitcher. Imagine a bad just way good and kind of break the rotation. I think. But I can hit though. I was like, yeah, he's a little. I asked him to be hard. I'm like, you've been a professional hitter. He says, no, I say yes. But, it flies a lot. So I placed. Yeah, so I couldn't make that other release pitcher. I was like the cold. Yeah, in time. And for me, my average time of junior year, Yomans got kicked off the team for misappracting a lot. He moved to California with his dad. And I got into the rotation like, average time of junior year. And if that, if Yomans didn't get killed, team, I wouldn't have pitched it to my senior year. Because, I've been able to listen to every single singer. And I got in my junior year of pitch, well, I think I went like five and over and once on my already. But my senior, I had a better junior than my senior year. Now senior pitch, like almost every game. I mean, I would start Tuesday, depending on the score. I might release Friday. And then the pinnacle we played Saturday, I might start coming in that name. So there's a wonder. I didn't think you know. Coach, you get a coach and better rested for doing that tonight. You're too good to be. So you're 17 years old. This. Upside with as a junior, you were 17 or 16. Sixth. You're birthday's month. No, never. None of the music's up. So you're turning, you're turning. So you graduate high school at 17. Yes. And got it. So you're 16 years old. Three years later, you'll be the major league rookie in the year. Am I correct? Yes. Right. And so then back to Mr. Mookie, well, some come back to it. Do I need to say? So, Mookie, Dwight was just talking about how he had incredible coaching from his dad. At first he thought, is that it was crazy. Right? Most of people do. What was it for you? Like, how did you learn to play this? Was it yourself taught? Did you have some great mentors coaches? And then, you know, if you don't mind taking us from there to get drafted and all of a sudden you got this hot shot. Who's this guy rookie coming in? Good. Well, I guess. So who is it for you? Yeah. You know, please. Well, personal, I never had a formal coaching. Everything did I learn to baseball. I learned from my dad. Wow. I don't even any major leagues. Things my dad bought me. Things that I used it. Saving in the game, you know, because we didn't have the real coaches coming to my leagues that they have now. We didn't have hitting coaches next. Baselight coach, all that. My father was really big. What's so much on the mechanical things of the hitting and the pitching. He was all about the mental approach. That's what he really, really good at. No, I was a pitcher, like I said most time in the amateur ball. And my first game I ever pitched. I pitched to my dad. My dad was the catcher. So, um, and that was how was for how were you? I was about 13. Wow. What was your dad's baseball background? My dad was the catcher. And he played in Dicol. It's a semi-progress sailor. We played every Saturday. Every Saturday we played. And um, as well, that's what we just told. When I was 13, I got to play with your adults. Wow. You know, at 13, you know, and so you are a big time stand. I mean, you're playing, you know, 13. And when I got high school, like I played a little league out, I played a big grunge man already. And stuff. As a freshman high school, did you start oracity? Yes. Wow. So, it's incredible, right? I mean, you two, you guys both played the age leagues. You're having, because your high school is so crazy, you're having a difficult time being starting rotation as a junior. Mookie's the air start as a freshman, but obviously you guys just complete rock snowers. Yeah. So, so you get drafted, find a maths tip. And what happens with what's minor leagues? Let that journey from minor leagues to major leagues. What's that like for you? Well, when I was drafted by the next round, I was drafted by Dodgers first and did sign. I won back to college. When I was drafted by the Mets, and honestly, I didn't know who the Mets were. I had no idea because the football was not, not something we wanted. We had only one game at watching television. It was always the break. That's only seen as the carol out. The break, no matter what the break. On draft by the Mets, I signed. I was drafted in the second round. And it was tough. And it was really tough because I had no idea that my volleyball was that rough. I had no idea that the push rise, hotel competition, and even ball parts. And it kind of sucks. So you were drafted in what you're at, any? 77. Oh, sorry, 77. So you're drafted in 77. Yeah. And how much did you get paid to play the minor leagues in 1970? So do you really want to know? I did. OK. All right. It's almost embarrassing to deceive, but I did. I was drafted second round. And I had a $22,000 bonus. Second round. That's what I got as a bonus. And what's the second round bonus today? Oh god. I just got to be really ready. It is almost immediate. Yeah. But then, and I would be $500, but some money. $500, $500, a month. A month. So did you do it? Before text. Wow. Before text. Did you do other jobs? That's $6,000. In the winter? In the winter? Yeah, you have to. You had no choice. Yeah, no choice. You had to work during the winter, so you couldn't devote your time to training. And there was never, I wanted to training we got with the week before spring training. That was it. The hot. Yeah. So you, were you a fast run? Well, 77, your day view at the mess is 1980. Not today. OK. So what's that? You know, that we, we were pretty confident on training the minor leagues that you were on a normal pacing to get from major leagues, or you weren't so sure if you were doing it? I didn't know because I did. I wasn't aware how pro baseball worked. You know, it was like a day-to-day thing to me. Just talking with guys and stuff. All I wanted to do was just move up. You know, you played Rookable. And I played Rookable my first two months, which I signed like in July because I went to Cultural Series in June. And I signed in July, so I played the last two months. And then the next year, I got moved to Rookable to Dublin. So I skipped it, able, because I, you know, I've been in college, college players. So I skipped that one year in Dublin. Then I played two years in Tripoli. And then I sang in Tripoli is when I got called up. Got it. And so you come to the match and by 1980, when you come for a little bit, by 1981, when do you first start to become a more regular player at the match? I played every day when I first got here. I mean, when I got called up, I played this by every game that last month of the season. But 81 was my official rookie year. And I made it to you as a starting right field. Right. In 1981, I made a team at the starting right field. And I had to play in the like month or whatever. Jotorra benched me. I never forget him for that. I never gave a meet up benching me. But but I was in about 242.50. And he benched me. And I was struggling. So he put me on the bench. And I was selling the bench for about another month. And then their team was so bad. I never forget that we were in our San Francisco. And they had a meeting in the coach's team. I told me to say that we had a meeting. And you're going to be set at starting center field. And that's the job. This is Jotorra. Jotorra, what's mad at it? Jotorra, that one of the told me one of the coaches told me that. So before Jotorra is becoming a legend with a Yankees. I'm a met fan. He was a met head coach, a met manager to meet. Met manager. And he wasn't doing what he was doing with the Yankees. So the met. Well, yeah. And all I did was joke. And all I did was joke. He didn't have a whole lot of words. So this does tell you unique players. Yeah, you could be a great mind to be players. 1981 was working out. So 1981, if I could introduce real quick, we go to She Stadium. It's the one through nobody's there. I'm 11 years old. And his fifth row behind the dugout. And I said, these are incredible seats. We sit in them. And my dad said, well, hey, they have one more thing for us to look at. So we go over. And we go to box 113A. It's the front row. Right is the edge of the dirt meets the edge of the grass. And this is where Mookie Wilson, Dwight Kudden, and my life will intercept. They don't know it, right? They don't know anything about it. They don't know the bathroom now. But our lives are in trajectory to intersect. And because of what they will do, my life would never be the same. So I thank you for now coming tonight and minute. But now 1981, you're playing, you're there, and now you're starting. And take us through, please move key for a quick minute. So what happens over the next couple of years until the met's get a guy named Al Strobery, got into Dwight Kudden, please. Well, I think that most people probably know the story. 80 when I came up to 81. And look, he shared from your perspective, like, what? From my perspective, we were so bad. I want to go back to my lease. That's bad. That's bad. We're good too. And then we don't wait any longer. I think we had good guys on the team with Doug Flynn, Joe Young, Blood, John Stern. They were good guys. But the team was not, we just didn't compete with the other teams. And I was happy to be here. And I didn't appreciate what winning meant to New York. I didn't understand the love of hate relationship that meant things. You know, they've been struggling. And I didn't understand their struggles. And I think that's what it is. I didn't understand their struggles. Because I was like, I said, I didn't know who are about the men. I knew and I heard that they just greet the amazing men. She could not. I heard about that. But I wasn't a part of it. So I really didn't understand until I got here. And I didn't understand, you know, the hostility. And that's what it was sometimes the hostility that they had to work with, like the players. And it wasn't a hostility towards the players. It's a hostility because they weren't winning. No. And it's a big difference. It's a big difference. And I learned that early. Because I got there and I played hard. I played hard. And I made one crucial mistake. And that is I'd won Airplace I'd been. I thought that I was going to do that. But I got to meet you. Just anything. When it didn't materialize and all of a sudden, I felt a little bit different. Well, maybe you know, it's good to just thought you were. Because you didn't make that difference. You didn't make that difference. Well, at this level, it takes more than one guy, you know. And I did, I think I learned from that. And it's good to do the best I could. And be the best I could be and perform up to my capabilities. And that's one thing I got me through those first two years because it was rough. So I'm 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 11, 8, 1, 12, 13, 8, 28, 3. And you want to know how much I booed you guys? You're not sure. You were ready? Ready? Zero. Zero. I never booed. I never in my life have ever booed, ever. Because what I believe and appreciate is, how does that help? Right? Like sit in there, booing. And I'd love to hear your guys thoughts in a second. I'd never understood it. This is your team. Yeah. Somebody, you know, is an amazing leagues. And they're up there. And somehow I knew this. I don't know. My dad never even told me, though, 70. I'm like, do you think you got it and want to get it hit? Yeah. Do you think you want to walk the batter? I mean, the guys are doing the best they possibly can. And the person that's the most upset, the most hurting, if they strike it on the key spot or give up a home run, the key spot is that player. And the other thing I would think, I'm sitting there, and this is, I'm 10 years old, like, in this. I was like, you go out there and try to do it. You drug heavy said, do this. Y'all in the street booing. You try to get your ass out there. I know. You're not. I'm not normal. You're not your dear freedom. You. Yeah, I'm not. Well, it's so, I swear to God, that's the truth. Yeah. I've learned that just because fans boo you, they don't make him less fan. They're still passionate about it. Matt fans are passionate, passionate fans. They are very, very passionate fans. And I just, I guess I've never been booed before. And I think that was part of it. And, you know, anything. But I'm not judging them. I think I say sometimes people, we all do. I do too. We do say that don't make sense. Yeah. So for me, it's always made no sense. You're going to be like, how is that? Oh, today's funny. Like, I don't know what's happening. It's like, it's like if you're, you know, your kids six years old and go up and bat and he strives that, yell it up. I mean, it's crazy. Like, how is that going? Yeah, well, that's the truth. So, so now you at some point, yeah, have this hot shot, not that he sings in that shot. But everybody's saying he's a hot shot. Yeah. So, Dallas trooper is the first hot shot. And this guy named Dwight, and all of a sudden, you're in pop like this, there's like some, some metal in the mitt, right? Is that how, like in my right? Like this? Like metal in the mitt or notice? I was, I, it was, I tell you what it was. Or am I, am I just like, well, am I just like fluffing up? No, I tell you, we had, when we, Darryl came up and Darryl was this very high profile player, coming out of California. Pantilized. Everybody heard about the kid, you know, coming out of California. The next time he's six and yet, just just beautiful swing. And when I finally saw him, he was about his legs and I was like, that's crazy. He was getting, getting up late. This is one of the hoop flies at the, no, no. You know, I expect, you know, I expect this big husky, god, I'm serious, I expect this guy to be a, this a monster, don't put that on his head. This is what the old, I was about, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, if there he saw the swing, I could play this quickly if Darryl swam around. So, like, then you see him play, then you see him run and you see him, so you seem to do all these things and you say, wow, boy, I wish I had those two. I mean, really, big shot play out for you. So I said, I wish I had those two. But hey, those two, they could give me enough to play this. Hey, and how tall are you? I'm the five. Five nine. Five nine six. Yeah, I got a way to go. I got a way to go. I was just working on that, you know, the school. But you know, in the shape, with, with, with, with Dwight, you know, got Kim, Dwight ahead and the first time I heard the Dwight, he was already in the big leagues. I heard him in my mind, and he's done like that, you know, he had just seen a pitch, you know, so that I heard talking in the club, I was like, I got his a king, now that that's Dwight good, and you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's a large year. So the, so Darrell's out of Cranshaw, and yeah, they got a lot of fun. Yeah, the two meckets of baseball, high school baseball, and he told me a little bit before this that you just saw when he, is there, let's see what this is about? Yeah, he said there's a mound presence about Dwight good and 19 years old, or you saw first time, there's 18 years playing this. That's the first thing that I noticed, because I'm playing some of the field, I'm a huggers thing of field, I'm the father, they've been to St. P. Florida, the huggers thing of field, so I'll place them there, shoot them, you know, train and stuff, and I'm standing in, I'm sitting right here, okay, let's see what this kid's got. And I'm watching him and highlight kicking in to be highlight, kick, and he throw the ball, you know, okay, okay, I can do it, I ain't no big deal. Yeah, so let's see if they some hitters. Oh, but he approached here, there's the same way it did, it was almost like a warm up day. And that's impressive. They'll go panic, no nothing, he just, this kid says, you knew something was special about the kid, and I couldn't give guys out consistently, that you may need to be seen, but the first thing I look for is mound presence, and even if it's a hit, the first thing I look at is plate presence. When you get a hit, not to get zero other, I just wanna see how you handle it. to the good and the bad, then that's the most impressive thing I like about both of those kids there in town. They always look like they belong. Yeah. And so, the long he did, I can remember his Mr. DeLike good, you are the nationally rookie in the year, and if I get this impact, who's correct me, was it 276 strikeouts? No. How about me knowing that? I didn't look that in the room for this interview. I've known that since I'm 14 years a lot. Yeah, 276 strikeouts. And my life is changing, because I'm just sitting there at eighth grade, not dealing out in a Friday night, two other movies in my friends, because you're a pitching. And P.S., I was dealing with that fatapult, my friends. Most of my friends, they even like baseball, believe it or not. I play football as well. So, most of my closest friends with football players, they didn't go. So, you're a downbeat and everything, and you're the guy. How was that rookie season where you mentioned earlier? You go from watching and pretending, you're these guys. Playing. And the next thing you do on your face in the life, so, Pete Rose, Mike, how was that for you? First of all, I was like, I was like, I was a dreamer. It's a real guy. I just had to get more kick out of it. After he gave me a go home and call my friend and tell him what face. I don't really want face. And he's like, you shit it. I struck out my face. I struck out my face. You're like, they normally be like, you never face people, or do they? But they normally be like, I can't believe it. Because Mike Deo's on cell phones. Yeah. And you call it is not a face, you know, dumber for you, like a face I've been dancing this guy. But the thing was, was things like, Davey, you know, he started me off my first thrift for starts, he wanted to go like five minutes. And this is what, so it's like, met manager, Davey Johnson. Yeah. Dwight Good has this lightning in a bottle where Davey Johnson is his manager in the minor leagues. Yeah, and Davey, I had Davey in a minor league. So he knew me, we had a good person, I'm a good, a rich ship. So first four or five games, like I started my first year at Houston, and that's the goal. So it's kind of like, not that he was made with me, but he kind of like, the second in Chicago. So it was like, I'll go five, six minutes. But I remember what gave me confidence, it made me feel like you say, I got a one moment, YouTube did all of this. Mine was being at Austin in my first, I made the all-star team. And Nolan Ryan was like, one of my childhood heroes, told me goes, man, you could read pitch. I watch you pitch. And here Nolan Ryan has to tell me that. That gave me all the confidence in the world. So I need it. Then I remember after all some break, Davey told me to say, I'm a little more than five minutes now. He just counted me following him, but I had good veterans around, that made me feel comfortable. One guy that really helped me was Mike Torres. From the spray training, Mike told me, he goes, you probably got me the team. And if you make the team, I'll probably go to release. Plac. But to Mike, he told me, he told me, but as long as I'm on the team, when you're not pitching, I'm not pitching, you're going to sit next to me. That's it. Why? Because you know what I'm talking about? Hitters and different things. And what guy you think anybody, you know, is going to take a position, it's going to help you. Yeah, I just sit next to Mike, and he will say, what did you throw here? I'll say, why would you throw it? Well, you're looking for it. And he basically was teaching me about these hitters. What act of integrity? What act of leadership, Mike Torres, please say? The guy, I think, the recruits, why, why? They saw it was hurt, but he would do the same thing. He would talk to me to him about pitching, I'd be filled. And then I would have to eat, roll with mucky, enjoy, and start a better guy. So they made me feel comfortable because, again, I'm going to have to high school, some of my youngest kids. So I wasn't really homesick, but it was different. But they made me feel comfortable, maybe feel like I'm below level level always. And you become the curve me if I'm wrong. The youngest player ever to start the major with all-star game? Or the youngest player ever pitch in a major with all-star game? Is that right? Well, you're 19 years old. Right here. Yep. Please. I never miss a new game. It was just what you call it. Yeah, never is he. I was so nervous. I remember quite the thing about being on the off-shot team, we have workouts, how we could sell with Inter-Dramé. And it was, it's funny now, but the time I was like, God, we're really shy and quiet, you know? So I could remember how I could sell from him and my mom and I would eat and tune all the time. He's interviewing me, like I'm selling here from Mookie. That's my question. But I'm looking at him, like, I'm amazed there's how I could sell. I don't hear nothing. He's saying. I mean, anything. And so now, they're like, God, so what do you think? I'm like, can you repeat that? I ain't with him. I know the time. He's like, okay, let's go to commercial. I mean, nothing. I'll just sort of nervous and then I wanted to get into the game, but I would be okay with my dingin' in here. I was just happy being around with so many players that I analyze and I'm fired. And so when I'm the friend with Coach and they call down and say, it's good, no. And they say, great, you're up. I've never been, I've never been that. And I've been used to it. 19 years old, major league all starting in. And for folks out there that they don't really, can't appreciate this context. It isn't the same today. People always say, oh, it's not the same thing. It isn't the same. Baseball was the American past time, right? Basketball and football were not what they are today. The star that Dwight Gooden was, the shock, the impact. It just isn't like that today. Baseball isn't televised the same way. People don't watch baseball the same way. It's just a different universe. In those days, like the major league playoffs, they won the Major Networks Channel 247. That's it, what's happening? Today it's like Channel 78, this thing, other contracts, right? So then, like when these guys were doing what they did, it was in different universe. You got Dwight doing that. Mookie is as popular as any man, whoever. People should love him. He's heart soul core of team. We go through this improvement from 1983, that was Trevor Rickard here. 1984 Dwight Gooden working the year 1985. And that's, we think might win the vision. They don't quite get there. Dwight Gooden has in my opinion. It's not statistically, you know, this, but I believe is dominant a pitching season, as any would ever has 1.53 R.A. 24, I'm blind, no, no. So I've a new to the doggies, right? No, these numbers, cold. And his curve ball, I don't even know, pitchers just stop one hand for a curve ball. So it's nothing like sweeper today. This curve ball would drop from a hitter's hug to his toes. It was the most insane thing to see. People with a god, baseball's not really curved. Go watch these video tapes with Dwight Gooden pitching. We'll put some right here. It's totally crazy. So dominant force now we're coming to 1986. And we're about to intersect the box one 13, and I Mookey Wilson as the greatest moment in sports baseball history I go with. They call it number three. Oh, I think of every million baseball moments. The number three moment that's steed through the 1986 and when 108 games, they clinched the division early September. Fans run the field, printing against Chicago Cubs. I'm going to all these games of box one 13, and not every game I that sneaks me in. I'm like, well, I have a lot of money, my family. Well, my dad has these tickets because it worked. So every time it can steal me in, he's got a customer that's got a son. He's bringing me baby, and sometimes Dwight, maybe he's putting some of those tickets in the back pocket, bringing me in him. And right, and here we're going to the games. I say, John's part, there's no cell phones and people couldn't confirm who's there. Maybe my dad had a couple of that to clients that were sitting those seats with us. So this is the whole season we're building up and we're going to win the World Series and see the best one in the World Series in my lifetime. I was born in 1970. Might that would tell me the stories of the 1969. We're ready to go. Here we go. Used to the Astros, tough series, crazy, no one riot. But my Scott, J.R. Richard, Joaquin, Andrew, all those four pictures of there was I right around about that. Or in the old stories garden. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. J.R. But pick it off she was off. Be lucky to see the sheels. I've been hit. So it's Mike Scott. It's no one rioting. It's never. It's the sheels. Right. So here we're 86. They're darting. And and and and then you end up in one of the great controversy of playoff series of all time, which gets overshadowed by what's about to happen in the World Series because the mats are the lose. It was a game one lose to Mike Scott or game. You can also beat me or one nothing. Yeah, before me or nothing. Right. So Dwight couldn't go out there and crushes it. Gives up a single run and lose one nothing. But now it's a question, Mookie, of the ball. So what's called the baseball of Mike Scott in one of these great controversies of all time? So what happens? What happens to the baseball of Mike Scott? That's the biggest mystery. I'm going to my question is what didn't happen. I know we had just a lot of evidence that somebody would do something weird with baseball. You know, somebody would do something with baseball. And what people were saying, I'm not saying, Mookie's going to say it is that Mike Scott was scuffing the baseball was cheating. That's what the word was. And by the way, baseball is an interesting game. So people historically tried to cheat and get away with it. It's like your baseball is a complex sport. So pitchers did things to the baseball. But the net's now believe Mike Scott scuffing the ball. And it's in their heads. So game one, Mike Scott wins. It was a game for the game back at one again. I say what though? I could jump here. No, I was. I pissed here as Mike Scott, game one. Yeah. So like, what can you say? Somebody was scuffing the ball. Somebody. I think it's just my opinion. I think out of that, it's the chance someone is a shingard. Because they check Mike Scott all the time, never found anything. But the ball is definitely scuffed because I'll be doing the same ball. I mean, I couldn't do anything. I didn't do either. Yeah, I was doing it. Yeah, like the ball is definitely scuffed. But it's in the same spot. So you hold them all. It's definitely scuffed. Definitely scuffed. And the net's heads. Now we get to game six. It's three games to two. The match are up. It's in Houston. If the match don't win game six, they're going to face Mike Scott. Yeah. And face him like Scott has not gone too far. Yeah. I think that's. So the game goes into the 16th inning. Oh, right. Go ahead. Go ahead. It is this. This is the part where you cheer. It's like back and forth. Is this the one that was back? I will see the go into that game, though. We knew that it was going to be. They matched up very well with us. Pitching wives. They had pitching speed. Good deep as a team. They had power. So they matched it was pretty, pretty well. We were a better club. And I don't know doubt that. But they had the X factor was Mike Scott. Last. And I think that game six was a must win because the last thing that we wanted, the last thing I wanted was supposed to be my Scott again. Selma because we had too many players already. Complain about my Scott. So now we're in. No, the end of here right now in baseball, you can't play like you cannot play. That's a defeated attitude. You can't play the game like that. You can't play a game thinking you're going to lose. And the question was, they want to say, well, they don't fight. Why would they don't fight? They had nothing all year. So why would you think they go do something now? Then that really brings about questions. They've had that all year. They definitely don't do the thing now. So why we, I'm not saying players don't want to complain now too late. But anyway, game seven something we didn't want. So game six was definitely a must win for us. Now could also say that the only time in a whole year that I felt three. Three. Find out only time. Well, only time. And so 16th inning. Sixth topic. Wow. Please. Game going back and forth. What's the outfield? I had to wait here. Then I'm going to run. No. I will say. I was saying. There. Feeling actually feeling. I'm saying. I'll say. What else can you know? I think the game was going back and forth so much. I was so emotionally drained that I just wanted to get the game over. I think when I want to get over to start fricking it because my chest was hurting just from the thrill. I nearly my chest was aching. I'm saying, just do what? No one should have to go through it. I'm glad we wanted knowing that my scum will come being you seven. We would have had anything left. We would have had, but they probably been the same. We would have anything left in the asher. Um, Jesse Roscoe. Oh, you guys are going to the world series. Here we go. I'm losing my mind. 16 years old. My next I got a window world series. This is going to be most incredible saying go to game one. She stayed in you. Yeah. Um, ball rose to somebody's legs. We're main aimless right without things that don't quite go. Yeah. Yeah. And then so we the next lose game. I'll say we. Yeah. It's been saying. We're right. So, uh, and then we lose game two at home. Yeah. My friends are writing up. I wrote this whole thing out of like what was going to happen to world series. You two look friends. And they're now running the counter story as you guys lose game one. We lose game one to. And I'm sick and right. Um, game three in Boston. When game four in Boston went to two. The world is right. Game five in Boston doesn't go play, but we're coming home from game six. Right. Um, so let's take you through Dwight coming into game six. What are you feeling? What are you thinking? 1986 world series. We're about to set up the moment that is the greatest comeback in world series history period and rated the third greatest moment world series history by some. I'll say number one. Um, and Mr. Dwight, good. What do you feel and think it has game six in New York in Chase stadium? Here we go. I thought we had a good shot at that time before game start. You know, um, make personally, I did pitch well in the world series game two. I had nothing game five and nothing. So I was a candidate like, man, how can from a selfish standpoint, I'm like, how can that's where the self pity come in? How can they pull me out of this? But at concerts that would go back to Shane. What's called that? Because I thought you wanted to what game watch is there. I think was mentally wasn't prepared because of what went through. Yeah, game six against the ass. You saw people big city there. But again, the world said that in pitch world last year at conference, right team. And from the selfish standpoint, I also, we give well. So I can make it come out of all people's, I'm like that. But I had a lot of confidence in our team that come in my cold weather. We still have a legitimate shot, even before we got down to the field. Things that yeah, I still come in. I'm sure. And so we go into this game, uh, Roger Clemmons won the free pitches of all time. Also, uh, pitching that had the privilege as a United to it after the first time of the next night, go to dinner with Roger Clemmons. And it's a YouTube's all about game six from your perspective. He told me all about game six from his perspective. So now we're there in in game six. It's tied going to extra wings. And if the mess lose this dream season of 28 wings, 54 losses, when was the dominant baseball seasons a team's gonna ever have. Right. It's gonna all be gone by friends are rooting against me like crazy. My heart's breaking and my dad and I, this is the core part of existence and life. As we just talked about the hospital, uh, bed. Thank you guys again so much for doing that. My dad and my dad is in the front row box one 13 of those seats. I did what you're picking. I'm in the last row of the upper deck. Hmm. It's a will to be there in extra tickets. My dad was able to get sitting with my uncle. And my dad comes up in the beginning of 10th and a tie game and says, come on down. I've broken ankle and fighting high school football my junior year. I start crutching down and Dave Henderson hits a whole run. Bowman shock and later as a sophomore Columbia University, we play at the Oakland A sprint training facility in some early games in season. I'm in the A's dugout and I bumped into Dave Henderson. And this is only three years later. Yeah. And I said, you know, Dave Henderson almost crushed my heart and my soul. Is he's packing up? Is that what you talking about? So I told him and privilege time that story. So we're there and we come into the tunnel and met certain down a run from Dave Henderson out on. I go in crutching, crutching, crutching my dad come out of the lower level who she's staying in tunnel and somehow another run score. I even know what happened, right? I didn't hear any proud noise. So I'm like, wait, I literally thought the scoreboard was wrong. I'm like, dad, the scoreboard was wrong. I feel like what happened? I'm like, no, I didn't score it again. Like, oh my God, it's five three. And but as Mookie Wilson would say, that's how Lolli backman coming up. He turned in this Gary Gorda, right? Two great four in the line up, right? And so Lolli backman comes up and all of a sudden flies out. He turned in and this hits the wall well, right? And he's out. There's two outs. I'm in shock. Tears and 16 years old. You know, but she years well off in my eyes. Gary Corden gets to two strikes and this, this is the proof that miracles happen. The statistical in probability of a team coming back in the major lead baseball in the World Series in an enemy, especially in World Series against the team's greatest red socks down to nothing. Two strikes. Nobody on to Gary Carter. And he gets a hit. There's no noise and she is stating. It's like dead, right? And on my, I don't, I've never given up. I did not give up. I was not give it up. I refused to get up in my heart and my soul in my mind. But I was like in tears and fighting. What's going inside of me? As a fan, I'm sitting there just 20, 25 feet away from first base bag. And then two strikes again. And it's drama. It's out of Kevin Mitchell's up base hit because Dallas, Trevor is either a game and a double switch that Ray Knight comes up to strikes again. It's unbelievable. Now there's a lot of noise. Like noise is happening and he gets a hit. She's stadium explodes quickly and send me. Now what's present for me is why everybody wasn't believing from hit number one. And why everybody needs like all that stuff happens. So I'm making us some noise. I'll always be challenged to psychology of people, right? Looking at you're such a bright lady and things you're actually mindset. Why is everybody waiting for something to happen? So cheer you guys on the whole time. I was. That's the truth. Right? And so it's now down one run. Right? The nets have guys on two guys on base are first and third and up to the plate comes as beloved and net has ever played the Milky Wilson. And sir, please take us from you. Walk to the plate. What's happening? Your heart mine. What's going on? It happens. What? Well, no, you know how you how do I do that? Set up by the way. I mean, right? Yeah, I do the great setup. But you know, the one thing that you know, when you when you grow up and you you're dreaming and you're thinking that you always put your second position You know, I want to be in that position to be the hero. You know what dream in it? You don't want to be there. No, no, no, no. Don't let anybody tell you unless you in that spot. No, no. You know, that is more than no one should have the bear that type of burden. But the bear was I mean, that was my spot then. because I had to go from we are down, we're not gonna make, we're power head blown there too. Now I got, I got a hit, now I think I can have an opportunity to hit. And I get up there, so now I got one thing on my mind right now that is, you know, hey, you just gotta do you, do you, do you which is swing the back. And I was like, as Mookie's up and all this and sadly is happening. What are you thinking? Like what's happening for you? So Mookie came up, I thought we had a shot, be honest, I'm not just cynical this year. Yeah. Clawing pressure, and he says pressure on him, but pressure, I look at that situation, you can pull the pitcher to, more in a pitcher. But before, if I can't, before we'll be coming in, that, before we got the rally going, once it was two outs, I kept talking even in the middle of the game, it's not over to it's over, but I thought it was done. You try to think of what that could have done differently, what a team could have done differently. You're feeling bad about yourself. Some people, some of your clubhouse, then it was a hit, then the middle hit, while Pitch or something, Mookie came up, like, you know, somebody like out there, pulling you off from my cold, we got a shot here. So I had a lot of confidence at that point, they had a good, legitimate chance. Right. And there's pitch one, pitch one, and page two, please. Yeah, I had to pitch out the pitch, I mean, I'm, I'm spitting with fear and I guess probably the best thing I've ever had. And everybody who, not a baseball fan, right, the average amount of pitches that players going to see in a bat, I think, and it couldn't be wrong about this, but I think it's like 3.1 pitches is the average, like, amount of pitches every batter sees, like if you look at every bat, like, and see it. So pitch one, and Mookie, pitch two to Mookie, pitch three to Mookie, okay, that's an average of that. Pitch four to Mookie, pitch five to Mookie, pitch six to know, we're like, having that layer back, pitch seven to eight to Mookie. We're in a crazy situation. The court place is going crazy. And what happens next? What is that? First of all, after the first pitch, I went for a fight average already, my one pitch person that's in it. He's a free fighter, slinging the bat. I'm a pitcher at Coach O'Boy. The last guy you want to see that situation, they got us a free swing. Yeah. Cause he's got no holes. Yeah. And that's the way I would think about it. The umpire, I took the umpire out of the game. No, he was not going to have anything to do with it, no matter what. And that's kind of the philosophy that took my whole career. Don't let the umpire determine what's happening, Pat. But I'm swinging and I'm just fighting balls off. And people don't understand the wild pitch, baseball, the baseball, the baseball, the involves the New York. Yeah. It depends. I'm playing with Houseboy now. Yeah. So, look, he's up and a ball gets past the catchers. Just passed the game. Yes. And she's stadium is literally moving. It's moving. Like the whole place could collapse. Nobody cares. We all died in that moment. Yeah. None of us have. Yeah. And so it's going crazy. And now it's a tie game and look, he's up. It, please. And I'm saying, okay, this school is time. Only thing that I can't hear anybody move me down. I think it's only a bit of cheer. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. You have no idea. I don't know. Sorry. Yeah. So I always got to do nice. Constraint of doing my job, which is put the ball in play. And right before this, they put a ball, congratulate us. Boston Red Sox winning the World Series on the scoreboard. J Stadium. Yeah. They got a clubhouse guy puts on a Boston jacket and their dugout. They're going to run out. They ain't marty bad to the Red Sox, the MVP of the World Series. Are you kidding me? That's not me. That's sure how much confidence they had in me. I'm like, but I actually had some pictures. I should have really, and I was upset because I had two good pictures that I should have really done a lot with. And I think you can probably see my show emotion of the world. Those swings. I mean, I'll never get that back again because you're going to get one piece to hit. You know, and I'm standing was not I have to face him before. So I knew. I knew what he was going to try to do. And also I was kind of trying to take that picture away. And when I got the pitch middle end, middle end, which is a left hand is great. We get that pitch middle end. But the high end, I went at great and then I kind of turned over. And I rolled over it. You remember you when I met you day, you said that the first time your father heard you curse. Yes, sir. Well, that's the first time. That's when I. You were person. That was. I was. But I was laying some words on Don't have. But that's not a story. Another day. Oh. So after that, it don't happen so fast. And after that, did not I just took up a start running, not knowing where the guy was playing like that. I'm just I just took up a start running. And the ball was just bouncing took forever to get down the first face. And when we were between his legs, I said, we'll see him. Where is again? So move the hexagram ball towards Bill Buckner first. Yes. I'm sitting. Yeah. 20 feet from Bill Buckner. Yeah. And the whole place is thinking, look, he was in the. Not the whole place. He has to move. He was in your round out. All I'm thinking, you know, I'm a player playing, you know, I'm going to be a digital college player, showing their out there. So I'm understanding the whole thing. And all I'm looking at is Mookie and Bill Buckner. Mookie and Bill Buckner. I look at pictures not covering. I'm like, Bill Buckner is not being mookieed to the bag because it's going to be amazing. And all of a sudden, I think Bill Buckner may look up to see where you are. What whatever happened. And I spoke with Bill a couple of times. We talked about this. And he says he didn't take his eye off of it. He just was rushing because the picture was late. Yeah. And the question people ask me all the time is, would I be able to be to the bag? And Bill and I, we watched this video time and time again. And we're in agreement that even if he catches the ball, it's not going to be me to the bag. And not right. I'm saying well, I'm glad you missed it because if you catch it, the score is still a tie. You got to remember that. But we got to go here to coming up. I hold you. And poor, listen, my heart breaks for Bill Buckner because people say something totally untrue is that he lost the world. No, it wasn't even game seven. It was time. There's no way you got me. It wasn't not no way. But you guys had so much momentum. Yeah. But going to the, if you, if you beat him to the bag or if you don't, right? If he catches the ball, it makes the out. Like you're in extra endings now and you have all the momentum in the world. It's Bill Buckner. I think that one was raw deals in sports history. I think so. But that's the place for it because it's, so why is that? And I always give them that. You know, if you, you can't find your keys or whatever, you don't look five different places. It was always the last place you look. That's the last day people remember. That's the last thing that ended that day. That's all they remember. They don't forget about all that other stuff that happened before that. You know, you forget you should look in the glove compartment, you look in your left pocket, you look in your shoe bag, but it's always that late spot. And people remember that. And as unfair as it is and we all know, I had to play with Bill for many, many, many years playing against him. And I had to play as your being a friend of yours for just a many years after. And that play could have happened to anybody. It could have happened to anybody. It just happened in a time when both teams were cursed for like people to say. And to see that involved, it was so much a stake. And the fact that and I will say it, they had the game in their hands. They had the game and they couldn't close it out. So and I think that they have to blame somebody. Yeah. And it's easy to blame that last person that had turned you to put it into it. And here's my tape as just on a self master of mindset. All right. Is yes, the bread sauce can close it out. But in that game, Gary Carter, two strike head, Kevin Mitchell, two strike head, brain two strike head, Mookie Wilson, ten pitch that bad. Oh, yeah. Put the ball in play. You can beat it into the back. What in my heart, what that caught me is that there is never a time where something is over. Yeah. And every one of you did your job to make sure that our hearts and souls in New York was not crushed, devastating destroyed. And it inspired me. I would not be doing this podcast. I would not be in a place. I don't know if you guys know it. I just can say it in my heart. I'm in the verge of becoming the first blind self-funded unicorn, which means billion dollar company, your founder, creator, ever. And the history of planter is never happened before blind, self-funded, unicorn business builder, history of the planet. That would never have happened if it wasn't for what you guys did. And I honestly believe this probably is about 20 other things that had happened to my life and other people in places. But the New York meds, 1986, game six. And this is why I got this is going to be like the end of the podcast is you guys. I'm like one more thing on I will one more question each and a one thing. But the answer is yes, because this wasn't a podcast about net history. This wasn't a podcast about every aspect of the amazing white good in the movie wall. So this was a podcast about being possible, becoming possible. The miracles happening and what everybody did along the way to make it happen. And whatever and you know, to wait, you know, Mr. White could, you know, you're mentioned, hey, like there's a party that's like it wasn't going to work out. Like you had teammates that picked you up and you picked those teammates up hundreds of other times. When you were the dominant force to do everything, because that team was never where it was without you. And I'm not saying it's going to be nice. It's not saying they kind, but that's the case. We all have moments where our art, you have doubt. But then Mookie will send picks it up and get recorded. Rain night and Kevin Mitchell and that's what team is about. It's about picking each other from all things you guys do. And then game seven comes in. I just found three nothing again. I know that was so. I think that's true. But it's all run and right now it's just like unbelievable. And what I want to know, yeah, two final questions. I'll make it a compound. Then first, Mr. White good. Anything you want these fine folks to know you're going to win two more warts. Here's the Yankees pitch. You know, here with the Yankees a tease and joke is, you know, like, and you are good through the map of the Yankee fan. But you you made me unable to root against the Yankees because of my love and appreciation for you. But anything you want these fine folks to know in, you know, final finals, like to say. And Dwight couldn't, if you could be remembered for anything you want, is the legacy of a lot of people to know about you. Right? Not not the worst, not the best. Not going to mean just what you want to be remembered for by people. Well, nothing. It's a good like a good support. Yeah. First of all, what I like to be remembered for is obviously off the show I have my downfalls. It was time that I didn't bleed myself. But I guess talking to prisoners, it's not a lot, but a 2000 make team. Where fans, family, I bleed myself more. I bleed. Bleed to me more. I bleed myself. Because of my fans, my family, the people that are around me love me so much. They got me back from my scene. So, what I like to remember about, yes, I made a mess, but I try to take them mess now or make a mess. That's what I try to do now. I can't change what happened. I can't share what happened. It's like, if somebody else they maybe go out to those struggles, a family member, also might be going to the show. So what did I even know of? Yes, he felt, but he taught his wife around, trying to mess that he made to mess it. It's like, what else? If I may offer something in my heart, I don't think you fail. You could call whatever you want. I don't think anything is our permanent enough. Refinal must to be failure. At taking something that was noteworthy and trying to mess it up, inspiration for people, it's so utterly powerful and amazed. And I mean with all my heart, there's ever anything I can do and service and support of what you do, even those kids in tap and that will lead. I am here because of what you've done for my family and my life. And so even in moments that were imperfect, and who isn't imperfect? Who hasn't made mistakes? Love for the grace of God go out. I made tons of mistakes. And we all need mistakes. But when you're a superstar in front of the world, you make a mistake. It's going to get amplified, magnified, twisted, and charted a million different ways. You've always talked about, and then we'll get props to George Steinbretter and how he related to your treat to you. You know, in that spirit, please relate to me the same way that if there's never anything to do for you, Mr. Twyke, because of what you've done for my father, be as a birthday. All of the memories, when you get as a player. And afterward, I couldn't thank you enough. And thank you, Mr. Twyke. Thank you, Bradley. Appreciate you. Thank you. Mr. Mookie will send Sam question. We want these five books to know, like if you'd be my boyfriend, anything. What would you want to be a member for? I think that the first thing is, I would like for people just to judge me based on the work I've done. Let whatever I've done speak for me. You know, I think that's a little gospel. So I, and it's something that, you know, and so I don't need to tell people this. I don't need people to, I don't share about people constantly telling me how great I've done, what I've done, just that the other people that have come in contact with me. I want to them to understand that who you see, that's who I am. And as far as the game, baseball has been very good to me and my family. And baseball has been a great lesson. And I like people, and I try to read, I try to relate this Mr. people because I do a lot of public speaking. I'm an ordain minister and I do a lot of, I talk to people a lot. And I let them know that it's just like in baseball. We practice, you know, what you call it, P.F.P. Yeah. But plays and all kinds of defensive games and stuff like that. And all of this saying is that if you put your body in the best position to be efficient. And after life is you put yourself in a position that you can take advantage of any opportunity that might arrive. These are the opportunity not. So I know opportunity is always there. You just know it's always in the position to get advantage of it. You know, so I, that's the message I like to leave with people. But as far as how do you want to remember me? Hey, just, just let my work speak for foot me. Don't let me, I can't take out great. I am well out there. I am. You know, let me be your judge. Okay. Anybody ever wants to have a celebrity athlete speaker, people that are a part of the sports history. These guys are the people that have their sitting there eating birthday cake. My dad was a good cake. It was a net. She got a birthday cake. They're just loving their present. It took a lot. We won't randomly thought at one point. Some of those who are at hospital. And these guys could not have been more present, more loving and better. And I can't thank you. You got enough. Mr. Dwight. Mr. Mookie was and God bless the bill to you. Sorry, buddy. Seeing what you don't see is what this is all about. Seeing what you don't see. And these folks are part of a miracle. And miracles happen every day. But if they just have it only from man to God, it happened because they did their things. They're not perfect. I'm not perfect. Nobody's perfect. But miracles happen when the heart, the mind, the mastery comes together. That's what these people, the 1986, let's let's go. Let's hear it out. Let's go. Let's go. God bless. Yes. Oh, you should take away. All right. Thank you. And I'm pretty sure that you're okay.