Aziz Ansari

Hello, everyone. Welcome to this episode of Good Hang. I'm very excited about my guest today. It is Aziz Ansari. So great to have Aziz here in the studio to talk about the past, the present, and the future. And we're going to talk about a lot of stuff today. We're going to talk about the fact that he skipped first grade because everyone thought he was so smart. We're going to talk about him growing up as an Indian boy in the South. We're going to talk about Parks and Rec, of course, and all our memories there. And we're going to talk about his cinematic directing debut, Good Fortune. Lots to get into. But before we do that, we want to speak to somebody who knows our guest, who has great feelings and things to say about our guest and who has a question for me to ask our guest. And we just have my wife, my beautiful, beautiful wife, Rashida Jones, joining us today. Rashida, I miss you. I love you. Let's get going. Can you hear me? Rashida, can you hear me? Uh-oh, she can't. 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I still can't believe that we have airplanes. Exactly. Exactly. So there you go. This is a miracle. Our meeting today is a miracle. Where are we talking to you from right now? I'm in my friend. I know this every time I talk to you, I feel like I'm in my friend's sitting room in London. Well, what makes a sitting room? What's a sitting room? The question, lots of places to sit and kind of no other functionalities, like where you're just kind of sitting and staring at each other, you know? You're in London. I'm in London. I miss you, friend. I miss you too. I'm talking to Aziz today and I'm having a lot of nostalgic feelings today. I feel that. I really miss us as a cast. Same. And I kind of feel like we are his aunties a little bit. We are definitely... Totally. You especially. The education of Aziz, I'm sorry, was sort of like that alternate title for Parks and Recreation. I know him and Plaza feel like they were babies. They were our babies that we raised. Our beautiful family, the four of us. Before we get to Aziz, who like you, I think has like a very specific cultured aesthetic. I'm loving the color brown that you're wearing. Thank you so much because somebody told me they didn't like this color. I don't remember what it was. I was like, I do. I don't know why. It's like very 70s to me. And I was wondering what you think the color of fall is. I always ask, was she to these questions, because she knows. She's in the know. Well, there's a palette because you know, like when you have, have you ever done your makeup test where you're like an autumn or spring or summer? Yeah, I think you're an autumn. You're an autumn. You are such an autumn. You're a summer, I think. I think, I think you're right. Oh, and I very, I wanted very much to be a winter. It's kind of the story of my life. You love summer, Apollos, but you love summer. I do, but the colors feel a little, I don't know, not substantial. Too playful. Yeah, they feel a little juvenile. And I want to, you know, and I remember looking at the palette and saying, I think I'm a winter. And then TikTok said, no way. No man. They said, Blondie's not allowed. But okay, so that's in a tum no color that you've got going on. Definitely. This, I would say, like an olive green, a wine, like a Merlot color is very, the color of autumn. Maybe even like a mustard as an accent. I can't even get anywhere near those colors. They do not work for me. And with that in mind, what do you think is the, the fashion of the, of the season? What, what should we be wearing? Okay. Should we say that we do this? Yeah. So every season, Rashida and I, and we try to like name how we're going to dress, basically. And what? And it's, it's steeped in either like a country or a vibe or, or like a trend or, or like an anti-trend. What have been some past ways that we have, we've got, we've, we've named the seasons. I can think of a few. High school art teacher. High school art teacher. Japanese winter. Tired ballerina. Tired ballerina. What's the last one that we just, that we kind of found from TikTok? It was like frugal chic. Frugal chic. Frugal chic. Right. Like make your own salads, bring them to work. We're the same, like gorgeous sweater every day. Shop your closet. Shop your closet. What do we think is happening this fall? What about just like a double F, like functional fall? Or like, I was just in Paris, which of course always the fashion's so good in Paris. And the way that like girls wear trousers, like it just is, it's hard to describe why they look so much better on them than anybody else. But there's like always like a front, oh maybe it's front pleat fall. Okay. You know what? No. Jenzy loves their front pleats. I know. I don't need any more help down there to feel full. No more pleats in the front. Agreed. Agreed. Okay. Never mind. Functional flat front. Functional flat front fall. Okay. You heard it here first guys. Hashtag trending. Okay. You know, we always like to talk well behind our guests back about our guests. What do you love about disease? I'm sorry. Disease is, he's a very insatiably curious human being. He loves to absorb art, food, fashion, film, traveling. Like he's just, he's so open to experience. And I love people who are like that. I would say that you're like that too. And then of course, like he's just so funny. And I always want his take on something that makes it, he's a pleasure to be around in that way. Yeah. I feel like you have, you two have probably gone and done some groovy things together. Like, mm-hmm. We've been in a lot of countries together. Yeah. Yeah. And I love being in Japan with disease because he'll, he'll just, he'll just bust out like the best accent and just order in Japanese. What? Like a full, perfect accent. Yes. He speaks Japanese? Yes. A little bit. But it's, his accent's so good that he convinces people that he's, can like speak fluently because his accent's so good. Whoa. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Is it weird that every time I hear about other people speaking another language, I just feel so bad that I don't, like I make it about myself. Fire of jelly, fire of envy. Same. Well, people should know that you studied French for a while. A month? Babe, a month more than other people, honey. Okay. So what question do you have for our guest, Aziz today? What do you think I should ask Aziz? Anything you want to know? Yeah. I was, you know, I was thinking about something that would light him up that he'd want to talk about. And again, as we mentioned, Aziz is an extremely cultured individual and, you know, there's probably stuff that people don't really know about him. One thing is that he's an excellent chef and also he loves food. So A, what's his favorite thing to cook? And B, what's his favorite thing to eat? Love that. Love that. Has he ever made anything for you? All the time. He cooks me dinner all the time. Everything. My, my recent favorite is he makes this thing. It's like, it's an Indian dish that's specifically for children. So I love it. Called Chicken 65. And it's, it's bright red because of the, like the pepper powder and it's delicious. Yum. Yeah. Ooh. I want to talk to him about that. And I want to talk about kitchen gadgets in general. I just got for myself, I like to every once in a while get myself a kitchen gadget so that I can continue to encourage myself to cook. I just got really long, thin tongs, like not your, not your grabby tongs, but those long ones that you, where you can turn a delicate, a delicate mushroom. Wow. I wish we were hanging out together right now. I miss you. I miss you too. I really want to do a TikTok dance with you. Oh yeah. Listeners, Rashida sent me a TikTok dance and said, I wish we were learning this together. And I watched it and I was like, I don't think I'd be able to learn it. It's 100% could do that. It looks so cool because they're such good dancers, but it's a very simple steps. You know, no one is a bigger fan. Could you do the TikTok dance in my cell? I will. I'll send it to you. I'll send it to you. Just don't show anybody. I'll send it to you. Do that thing where you make yourself a three people, you know how you can do an effect where you can look like three people. Yes. Let's do that. That's maybe your team after they fix your audio issues can help me do that. Yeah. We're going to split this into three and you're going to be your own backup singer. I love that best career. Thank you, Bones, for doing this. Miss you, bud. I'll have to see you. Miss you so much. I know. I love you and have fun with Aziz, Zezers. Baby ZZ. As I call them. Baby ZZ. All right. Thanks friend. Love you. Love you too. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Beauty emergencies are bound to happen. How many times have you, oh, I don't know, dug around in your purse and pulled out mascara and thought it was lipstick. And then all of a sudden you got mascara on your lips and you're like, this is not the kind of look I want to bring to the very fancy dinner parties I'm about to have. So now that Sephora is on Uber Eats, you can get all your beauty essentials delivered for the same price as in store. Plus treat yourself to $10 off when you spend $50 or more on your first Sephora order on the Uber Eats app. Order Sephora on Uber Eats today. Offer ends October 30th, one order per customer. Additional terms apply. See app for availability. Delivery fees may apply. God, this is like peak New York right now. I know. It's so nice to be. People don't know. We're recording in New York right now in the fall. Yeah. Is this on now? Yeah, we're on now. Oh, whoa. Okay, good. I'm glad I didn't drop any racial slurs as I tend to do when I usually see them. Right away. When you see me. Yeah, right away. We usually, so what's your favorite right now? And then I say my favorite and then we start hanging out. Yeah. So God, thank goodness we dropped that position. Yeah, no, we're rolling. And all we've been talking about is New York in the fall. That's it. New York in the fall, baby. But when you come here, do you get like, do you ever want to live here? Well, you still spend time here. Yeah, I feel like I don't live anywhere. I'm always just running around. But whenever I come, like visiting New York is fun, because you come for and you get a quick hit, you do all your favorite stuff, you see all your friends and then and but if I stay too long, it's too crazy. I'm too old now. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's it's a little ZZ is all grown up. I know my ZZ is just an old man now. I know. If you watch, if whatever I see old parks things, I was like, I didn't know that me and Aubrey did a show and we were little kids. Like it's really how old were you when you started on the show? I was 13 and then when we finished, I just turned 18. I got my driver's license like in the middle of the run. A lot of people don't know that you're 18 when you're playing Tom Haverford on Parks and Rec. Yeah, it is true, though. It is you look like a baby. You were a baby. I didn't know anything. Yeah. The first seasons, I didn't know how to act or anything. I should not have been on television. NBC should have been like, we got to get is there any Indian guy that's done more acting? Can we get out play this guy? I want to get into this too, because it is it feels like when we we met each other throughout like we've we've in a bunch of different ways in a bunch of different places. But New York City, I will say feels like and I don't know if you feel this way when you come here that you are reminded of when you were young. There is a feeling here like if you were here when you were young, when you come back, you feel younger or something you remember your younger self. You're trying to get back that energy. You remember you remember being out late and all this kind of stuff. Yeah. And because you're an NYU kid. I went to NYU and I started doing comedy then. Were you doing comedy like in high school or? No, I grew up in South Carolina. So I you know, there was no outlet for anything like that. You know, it was like, you know, you could dip and spit into a cup and everyone laughed. I just drank Mountain Dew and dipped. That's all I did in high school. And did you ever? Were you in a play? I was in plays when I was a kid. I remember there was some play I did. And I don't know what the play was, but I played like a cowboy and I was doing like a big Southern accent. And I remember I just crushed and kids were coming up to me afterwards like, do it again. And it was like one of those things I remember. So were you a funny kid? Yeah, I like to be funny in class and yeah, anytime there was anything that involved public speaking or something, I was always super comfortable. I remember when I did like something where I was like six years old, I had to like speak in front of the whole school and I didn't like base me at all. I don't know why. It's so funny. Yeah. Because okay, so when I was in school in South Carolina, right, this is in the 80s. So you know, a lot of these people had never even seen Indian people before. And I skipped first grade. I did skip first grade and second grade. Like in the middle of first grade, they just they call my parents. And they're like, we gotta get about it. He's too smart. He already knows all this stuff. I don't know if it's this other culture you're from or what's happening. But we got to get him the book out of this first grade thing. He needs to go to second now get him out of my class. He's embarrassing everyone else. Then I went there and I went to second grade and it's a little school. So like I'm like, you know, and there's like 30 kids in each class. I grew up in a town like 8,000 people. So they're like, oh, this this little this little brown wonder kid. And so like I'm on the radio and all this. No. Yeah, there's a recording somewhere. And when I was a little kid, I had like a Southern accent because that's where I grew up. And that's where I'm around. So I vaguely remember being being on some radio program. And I was like, my name's Aziz Ansari. And I'm a first grader at Marlboro Academy. When you're told at six that you're a smart kid, then you become the smart kid. Were you the smart kid? I think so. But I think it kind of annoyed me in a way. Like I didn't want to be painted with a certain brush, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I bet. I bet people are just projecting a lot of stuff on you. And then I went to the school in 11th and 12th grade, which is in like a science and math school. And it's a public school in South Carolina called a governor's school. And there it's like all the smartest kids from all over South Carolina. And there I was just like this dumb kid that was like smoking weed and telling dumb stories. And they were like, what happened? I thought you skipped first grade. Yeah, 11th grade. You should go back to 10. Expecting, but yeah, they kicked you back down. Yeah, I mean, we talked a lot about it when we first met like this idea of growing up in South Carolina in the 80s as a young Indian boy, one of probably the only in your class figuring out. Oh, definitely not one of the, they're in like first and second grade. I sometimes forget this. There is this tie girl, her name was Tisha. Which does not sound like a tie name. And they used to always be like, what's up with you, Tisha? I'm not kidding. I remember there was a play in like first grade, there was like, it was a play. And for some reason there was Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse, and it was me and Tisha. We were the stars, you know, oh, diversity. No, no, me and Tisha in Benetsville in like 1988. Leads, leads of this mysterious play where there's Mickey and Minnie Mouse. But there was always like, were you excited in a way to expand your horizons and go to New York? Yeah, I always, it's so interesting. I was thinking about this, you know, the fact that my dad left, you know, my family is all from the southern tip of India up until me and my dad left India and went to like, he first came to Jersey and he was doing like, you know, residency or whatever. And I, you know, I really, I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago. This is how remarkable it was and how scary that must have been to come over there and not know anything. You know, this is before internet, FaceTime, nothing. If you're there, you're really gone. And same with my mom as well. And did they come over together? My dad came first and then my mom came later. But I was just thinking about how there was something in my dad. I asked him about this and he was like, oh, I always wanted to go. And it's weird because I grew up in South Carolina and I think I had a similar thing where I always wanted to go somewhere, you know, bigger with more stuff going on. Yeah, you had that same like, drive to just see more of the world. Basically. Yeah. And luckily, I went to school in New York, which is the greatest place to be if you have that kind of feeling. So when you're leaving South Carolina, you apply to NYU, you apply, you're like, I'm going to go to business school. I didn't know what I wanted to do. This is how dumb I was. Yeah. Business seems to be the major that a lot of men who don't know what they want to do pick. Like my uncle has a business. I was like, oh, maybe I'll start my own business and I'll major in business. That's how silly I was. And then I get there and there's all these kids that are talking about Goldman Sachs and stuff. I don't even know what Goldman Sachs is. And I'm completely confused. Yeah. And I had friends that were in Tisch, the film and television school. I was thinking about switching to that or maybe the Gallatin school where you make up your own major. But I never really got it together, the little combination of laziness. And I also started doing stand up like the summer of my freshman year. And I distinctly remember sitting in a class in my sophomore year and just thinking, I'm just going to do something with stand up. At the least, I'll be a comedian that does comedy clubs and that's fine for me. How do you go do stand up? What makes you go do stand up when you're in college? It was one of these weird things. I was in school my freshman year and I was just sitting around and telling stories and people were laughing. Someone was like, oh man, you should try to do stand up. And then a week later, the same thing happened. And it was like one of these weird, maybe the universe is saying something. And then I went to a comedy club. I went to the comedy cellar, which I still perform at all the time. And I saw show and I was like, I think I can do this. And I tried it and I wasn't great. I did well. But I was very comfortable with it and I really enjoyed it. And I just wanted to get good at it. I just wanted to get better. I never thought about anything further about acting or any of that stuff. I just wanted to get good at this. And it really goes back to what you were saying earlier, where you get that high of like, oh, I want that feeling again. And so I started there and then it just kind of went from there. Well, when we met, do you remember the first time we met? I was trying to think today. I mean, I don't remember anything anymore. I have so many friends. I'm like, when are we first meet? I mean, one of the first times I remember meeting you was so the UCB theater and there was a Monday night stand up show at 11, which is like a tough slot. Monday at 11 is not the prime slot. But they were doing a stand up show. And Matt Besser, who was part of UCB, asked me if I would want to do the stand up show. And I started doing it. And I was booking like my favorite comedians and I would host it every week. And it really took off. And I remember one week you came and I was like, whoa, like you just came to see it and said hi. And that's one of the first times I remember. That's what I was going to say is I remember meeting you by seeing you on stage. That's back when we could all just, you know, sleep all day and then go to do a show at 11 o'clock on Monday night. Yeah. Then you go on and you do, you create your own sketch show. Yeah, we did the sketch show on MTV. Yeah. Yeah. And that was kind of like 2007, which was such a cool time for, I think, for comedy at the time because you had MTV and Comedy Central and all these places like taking big risks on green apples. Yeah. And adult swim and all these things. Were you on adult swim? No, but that was around and things like Tim and Eric and, you know. Yeah. And it was like, here's this kind of niche vibe. Let's give them a show for, you know, like, let's see what they can do for a couple of seasons. Yeah. And so that show was human giant. Yeah. And you wrote and what did you learn from doing a sketch show? Sketch show is really hard. Yeah. I mean, you know, that's one of the hardest things to do because especially even just from a production standpoint, you know, everything is different. There's no consistency. You're always doing new costumes, it's new locations. It's really a hard thing to do and writing sketches is really hard. But there was one sketch I did that I wrote. I think, you know, we all kind of wrote together, but it was one that I really liked and it was one that Greg Daniels and Mike Scher saw that and it was because it was on YouTube or Funny or Die or whatever. And that was what got me the gig on Parks. Yeah. And was it Shutter Books? No. It was called Viral Videos and the premise was me and Rob Hubel and we were on a talk show that Paul was hosting and Hubel had just made a viral video because he did a video where he cut his penis off and it went viral and he was like, so excited. I got, you know, two million views and things like, oh, we have this other guy, he's named, you know, Kevin Kreisler. He has a viral video too and it's me and I got like 40 million followers and all I did was just make funny faces. And so he has to reckon with the fact. He could have just made funny faces that he's done something a little bit more extreme. And yeah, it was a fun sketch and but that's what Greg and Mike told me they saw and they're like, oh, we should get the, yeah. Because a lot of people don't know you were the first person hired for Parks. Yeah, I met with them and what was that meeting like? Do you remember it? Well, it was so mysterious what they were up to. Yeah, I had a meeting with them and I told them, I don't know what you're doing, but whatever it is, that would be a dream job. And, you know, this was like when the office was on and Mike and Greg were both involved in that and that was, you know, my favorite show like that on the air. And so I told them whatever you're up to, let me know. And then of course, you know, when it all came together with you and Rashida and everything. Well, I'm kind of learning. When I was talking to Plaza, when Plaza was here, she was talking about like her meeting with them too. Yeah, yeah. Very famous stories. Yeah, yeah. I know. And it's kind of funny. I kind of forgot the Avengers assemble feeling of those guys going out and getting people and bringing them in and talking about like, we're going to do something very cool. I mean, it didn't even feel like there was a ton of auditioning. It was more just them picking people that they thought was funny. Not only funny and I feel like all of us, whenever we see each other, do interviews kind of say this kind of stuff ad nauseam, but it's so true. But also just the best people I've ever met in my life. Yeah. Like really, I cannot believe it because we've all done other stuff and, you know, not everybody's, you know, look, we've all done other stuff. I don't talk about everything the way I talk about parts. You know, you do something with some people with different energy, not necessarily mean or bad, but it's just something like we all just clicked and there was a vibe that worked with all of us. And just to pay respect to you and Mike, you know, when I did Master Nun with Alan and as I become a director, you know, what I learned from you and Mike in terms of how to lead. I mean, I can't thank you enough. It was the best role model that I could have ever had. C's. C's. You know, I started washing your podcast and so then Parks Clips started coming on YouTube. And when I watch it, sometimes I just think about us making it and it's funnier for me to watch the bloopers because that feels more like my experience. And oh gosh, some of those things that came up, I hadn't thought about in so long and they were cracking me up. I saw this clip. It was, it was, it was, I don't remember the context of the episode or whatever, but it's, we're in Ron's office and me and Donna, there's something called Blush and Ron has decided, bronze and blush. So me and Reda started going, Ron's in blue, Ron's in blue. And then I jump on the table and I'm like, Ron's in blue. And me and Reda's dancing is getting crazier and crazier. And we're just doing, just dancing, dancing all over offer, but doing all of the crazy stuff. And they showed that, that was what we shot. And then they showed the scene as it aired. It was just like, Ron's in blue and they cut. That's also my favorite thing. It's like, I mean, I love trying to, if I could try to get someone to break, like you're pretty good. I don't, you know, Superman's pretty high up on that. Agreed. He never cracked up. And all men, I love, there was a couple of times where I almost, where I got like, I think he didn't laugh, but I think his mustache went up a little bit. And I remember one thing that you wrote, it was an episode you wrote, I was doing that puppy boys, and then the, as the puppy started looking at his mustache, and I was like, how am I supposed to punch him? I like the mustache. I'm just a little puppy. And it all, I think it was almost got it. Almost got it. You're so right. I mean, the set up there was like, you had a chance to play around. Like you got to try your stuff. I mean, the fact that, that treat yourself is used on, you know, cocktail napkins and in Kmart and like, it's everywhere. And I went to some ice cream place one time and they're like, treat yourself to a sample. I was like, can I have a sample? I was like, please don't, please don't connect this. Luckily, the person didn't put, didn't put them together. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, that's become part of the lexicon. And I can remember that moment, which by the way, it's so funny in that moment, treat yourself because you guys say, treat yourself 2011. And I'm like, 2011. Remember that. And then there was one in the future. It was like, please help 2014. It's like, it's 2025. What's happening? But I remember that episode deeply because it felt like it was a great example of the writers and the producers realizing like, what made you laugh? What made disease laugh? Like, what would be like a, what would be fun for us? Like, that's what they started doing so well. Yes. I think they, they just, the more they got to know us, it was such a good group that you could just be like, well, what happens? We put these two together. And then of course we had like the greatest people coming in and doing bit parts and they were all just so funny and the characters. Another clip I watched that, and I think, you know, talking about breaking this was, is the hardest scene I've ever had to film in my entire acting career. And it was, and, and if it's, it's on YouTube, the blooper of this. And it's me and, do you remember the sea is me and Adam Scott. And we're having lunch with Joan Calamets. Yes. The great Mo Collins. Mo Collins who always is just so funny. And she said, she were at a lunch and she says, I'm going to go powder my nose amongst other things. And then she walks away and then Adam comes to me and goes, and the bed is supposed to say, dude, is she going to go powder her vagina? And we couldn't do it. And this is the only time I think this ever happened on parks or anything where me and Adam were like, just let's just film the rest of the stuff and we'll come back to that. We'll come back. We'll just come back to the, because we couldn't do it. And then, because it's just the most absurd task because you're like, okay, no, no, we got it this time. Okay. All right. All right, guys, ready? Okay. Amongst other things, is she, oh, you know, he could have said, dude, he, he, he had to go powder vagina. We couldn't get through it. And Mo was so funny doing it, how she was like stumbling out of the table. Yeah. And then she'd add some other thing. Yeah. And you're like, you can't do that. I just stue myself. And now you just did this other funny thing. That's not fair. Oh, wait, I love, I love a blooper. I love bloopers in general. I love a blooper. Yeah. But watching these parks bloopers was after I watched your thing, it put me on the algorithm. It was, it was, it was so fun. Oh, and you know what I also wanted to say one more in the, in the parks and recreation world for a second. My kids loved Aziz. They're in their late teens. And when they see you on TV, they go, Oh, it's turkey sandwich in this. So yes, my kids were little when they, when I was shooting that show and they would come and visit. And Aziz, you're really good with kids. Oh, and you do a thing that they love, which is you kind of like, I don't know, it's funny. You realize sometimes with kids, with, with people and kids, either people like come on too strong and just like want to want to interact and kids are like, or they just, you know, they don't know, or they're like, hello, young person. But Aziz would basically do these bits with them that would make them laugh so much. One of them is you would walk by my oldest and pretend to be on the phone with his best friend. What was the name? Watson. That's right. Hey, Watson, what's going on? No, I've just done that. Yeah, my oldest would just kind of listen and be like, wait, he's talking to my friend. Like, he was like five years old. And the other day is, and you were just like doing funny bits with them. And one day you were, you were holding or eating a turkey sandwich and they started laughing and pointing at you and saying, turkey sandwich, turkey sandwich, whatever. And you loved that. I just remember you thinking it was so funny. And the other thing I just wanted, you mentioned like your algorithm and your phone taking you to the parks clips. I did want to talk to you today about your relationship to your phone. What is your relationship to your phone now? I try to stay off everything as much as I can. How do you do that? Teach me your ways. I don't have email. I haven't had email for like 10 years. Incredible. Yeah. I have an assistant. Okay. All right. But still, that means that- And there's also stuff like, you know, like, I have a flip phone and if I get really lost, I got to either ask people or just call my wife and be like, I don't know where I've had to do that before. Like call my wife and to the point where she's like kind of used to it. But- And if, you know, I hail taxis and if there's not a taxi sometimes I'll call them. So you don't use like an Uber app? I usually, in London, there's taxis all the time. You can hail them. And here too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, why do you have that kind of relationship with your phone? It just gives me more space to think. I mean, I heard something about like Tarantino doesn't even have a phone, Kristen Olin doesn't have a phone. I was like, whoa, those guys are able to get a lot of stuff done. Maybe there's something to it. It does feel like the eventual next step will be just that. Will be people like breaking up with their phones in that way. It's pretty consuming. And yeah, but that's just me. I don't know why. No, I relate. And I'm genuinely asking because I feel like my relationship with my phone has just gotten deeper and more intense. I remember one time on Parks you told me something about how your phone fell in the pool or something and you didn't have for a couple of days. You know, this is the greatest thing ever. Yeah. It definitely feels like something that has taken over. It's going to be really interesting this generation like Gen Z and Gen Alpha who have grown up with a phone in their hand. I saw a Gen Alpha kid one time at the airport and they had a flip phone. I guess it was like, because some parents get their kid a flip phone. I don't get you flip phone. Sure. So I saw that and then I had mine and I saw the kid and I went like this and dapped her flip phone and she was completely confused. Can I see your flip phone? God, this thing doesn't even work that well. Wow. But another thing is one time I was eating in a restaurant in London and I heard my phone going off and I checked and nothing was going on. But it was another dude that had a flip and then we started talking and we were talking about all this and just joking about how like, oh, what do you do when you get lost and all this stuff. And yeah, classic flip phone guy combo. And then he said, you know the thing I think you got to avoid now is the chatbot. And I was like, oh, 100%. Okay, let's talk about that, the AI. Not the AI. What's chatbot? Chatbot. I think I'm not even calling it right. But the thing where you type the chat, I call it chatbot. But it's chat, G.B.T. I don't even know the name. I agree. I think this is like, you know, it's outsourcing critical thinking, it's making everyone's opinions kind of saying, this is my feeling, you know, and I think people using it instead of Google, most of the time it's wrong. And it's just kind of like telling you what you want to hear. So you can keep asking you questions. And, you know, someone showed me some commercial where it's like someone said, like, how do I make a dinner for this girl that makes a meh-meh-meh-meh-meh. I'm like, well, why would I, I would rather someone call someone and ask someone or maybe you have some sort of conversation. Like, it just seems like it's like outsourcing thinking and it's like killing some bit of humanity. And I don't know, it kind of makes you, I was reading some article where it said like, it's making everyone a little more basic. Ooh, yeah, that's real. I think that's real. I have always found you as these to be a very curious person who's kind of interested in why we do things. Like you're very interested in the why of like why people make choices. And I feel like definitely the last few stand-up specials that I've seen you do definitely have that feeling. And what is it, are you doing stand-up right now? Are you out doing it at all? I'm just been promoting the movie now, but I think I'm going to go out in after the movie in like October, November. And do you all new material or do you? I've been doing stuff about like being married and, you know, we're trying to like have a kid and talking about that stuff. So what's it like being married? Is it fun being married? No, I love my wife very, very much. She's great. She's great. She's great. She's great. She's great. She's great. How did you meet? We met in London and, you know, we did long distance for a while and yeah, I was like, alright. How was being married changed you? I just feel like all the other stuff doesn't really matter to me anymore. You know, I'm just like, oh wow, this person is everything to me and just to have that person to come home to and told that that's it kind of makes everything else seem like it's less important. I mean, sorry. I love it. Disease. I'm so happy for you. I'm excited to hear what you say on stage about marriage and relationship because I've always known you to be a person who's has who has a lot of love to give. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Let's get those tears going, Aziz. Let's get those tears going. Chop, chop. Before we talk about Good Fortune, your new film, which looks amazing and holy shit, the cast is great and you wrote and directed it. It's so good. When you were doing Master of None, Master of None feels like a show with Alan Yang that you created. It feels like when I was looking up and going over your stuff and being reminded of it, it almost feels like a different time in television that it was pre-COVID. Yeah. I mean, it's like a time capsule in New York now, that show. It's about 10 years old now. We were making it and that was when Netflix first came out and this was a time when Netflix was like, you remember, people would be like, oh, there's a new Netflix show. They had so few. And so every show got their shine and when Alan and I made that show, the idea of like, whoa, this guy that's got the brown face of Stern in the show, that was not really happening. And they let us really do what we wanted. When people talk about getting notes, they hadn't even hired people to give notes yet. The first season did really well, so the second season was like, yeah, just keep doing your thing. And it was just a radically different time and now streaming and making shows and all these things have become much, much different. Yeah. The whole industry is so different. And I remember you guys feeling excited about doing that. What was it like to leave an ensemble and then be like the lead of a show? Well, that's the other thing about Parks. Parks is not only you're on this great show, but everything's taken care of. Like you just show up and you're like, trick yourself. Good night. C-S-E. Thanks so much. Great day at work. And that is not what you do on Masternaut. Not what I did on Good Fortune. You have to pick. People, I think sometimes, they're like, what is directing? You don't really, it's kind of a vague thing. And it's really, you're just deciding everything. You're like, okay, well, okay, where does the scene take place? Okay, a restaurant. Okay, let's go drive around and look at how many restaurants, I gotta pick the restaurant. What are the people wearing? You're making so many decisions. You're crafting everything and you're there and then you have to, you know, I'm writing everything too. So you have to write it and then you have to figure out how everything's going to look and make all these decisions. And then you have to edit it and you have to make sure it all works. And it's a much more involved process. Yeah. And just acting is a much different, you know, simpler gig. What part of directing surprises you that you like so much? I just love these moments where you've written something and you have your actors and, you know, you had it in your head a certain way and then someone does something a little surprising or it just goes to another level. And, you know, when I was looking at some behind the stuff scenes for Good Fortune and this, I really enjoyed the stuff where I wasn't acting and I was just over the side and like, you know, it was like, yeah, no one said that there was something that was cracking me up. And I was just, you know, laughing and, you know, trying not to Yeah. mess up the scene. And those moments are super fun. I mean, there's another, there's a scene where they're like riding in a car and they're like, okay, do you want to follow them in the van beyond the radio? I was like, oh, those radios always cut out. I'm just going to hide in the backseat. So I was like, like this. And I was just like yelling jokes and, and, you know, set the key on her so iconic and like, here you have to say the jokes like the way you have it in your head, but also a little funnier. When it really feels like you're a little kid playing, those are the best parts. Yes. Totally. And, and, and also to be allow yourself to still do that. Because sometimes I think, you know, when you're working on anything that you created, no matter it doesn't have to be a film, it can be anything that you made and you like, hand it over and, and people then start to work on it. It's hard to not to not be too rigid about it. Like you won't, you have an idea of how it's going to go and it's supposed to go that way. And the reason why we work with other people is to collaborate. Yeah. Yeah. And to play like that and see what they have to say. And I love collaborating with actors, which is something I learned from, from our experience on parks, you know, Mike and all the writers, they would take all these little things like, oh, Offerman's into woodworking. Maybe that, oh, he plays a saxophone. Maybe, you know, and, and I've always spent a lot of time trying to get to know the people that I work with and try to figure out how to put more of them into it and try to understand who they are to help write the character better and make it feel more Let's talk about Good Fortune because that cast is, okay. So first of all, is Keanu as nice as he seems? He's the best. He seems incredible. Yeah. He's the best. And he's also, he's like the sweetest guy, but he's also like the coolest guy in the world. Like he kind of balances both things. Like, you know, we'll do like rehearsals at my house or whatever. And Keanu will show up like on a motorcycle. Like he looks like he drove from an anime movie straight into reality. He's wearing like all black. He's got like a backpack from the future. He takes it off. He's got boots on and he's just the coolest. And me and Seth are just like, oh, I mean, I don't know. I don't like that Keanu is still driving a motorcycle. I want him off that motorcycle for insurance purposes. He's always riding that motorcycle. I'm like, I want him off that motorcycle. Yeah. No, no, he loves his motorcycle. Yeah. And Seth and Kiki you've worked with before. Kiki is the best. You got me Kiki. Kiki is one of my favorite people ever. I have met Kiki. You have? I got the privilege of doing her podcast. Oh, you did? We did her podcast too. It was so fun. So fun. Kiki and I have had dinner, not to brag, by ourselves, just the two of us. She's like an Australian now. We rarely get to see each other. She works all the time. She's so, she is so naturally funny. I've described Kiki. She is a movie star hilarious. She once told me her aunt died in a way that was really funny. And I was like, how did you do that? I'm laughing. And you still be told your aunt died. She is so quick. She's so sharp. She's so talented. I mean, she's just as good a singer and performer as she is an actress. We had to see where me and Kiki are dancing. And I was like, work with some choreographer and then Kiki is just like, oh yeah, just does all this crazy stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, she is she's so talented. And I mean, the cast is really awesome. How did you, I guess, like, how did you let everybody play an experiment on the like, was it was it was it that kind of set? Like, did you? Yeah, I mean, I think, look, if you cast the right people, it's all gonna come together in a angel in a nice way. And, and, you know, I spent a lot of time rehearsing with everybody. So we kind of go, okay, so you like to rehearse? I spent a lot of time so we because, you know, when you're actually on set, that is the most precious time when the camera's rolling to get to that moment. It's so precious and you're always don't have enough time, blah, blah. So the more time I can spend with these people beforehand and rehearse and kind of make sure everything sounds right beforehand and, and, you know, rewrite things to make it really sound like them. Then we get on set, there's just less, we're already kind of almost there. Yeah. But of course, once you're there in the place with the clothes and everything else, you come up with new ideas. But, you know, all those people, they're so, you know, Kiki and Seth, they're really comfortable with improvising. And Keanu, you know, Keanu at first, I think Keanu was a little intimidated, I think, because, you know, he's not, he's not as a comedy guy as much as me and Seth, but he got into it and he would improvise and stuff a little bit. And I told Seth, I was like, could you imagine if like, we did an action movie, how awkward, we'd be like, Keanu, what, what, what, what, what, what. I'm gonna, I'm gonna push back on that because I feel like we would be great in an action movie. Because I want, I want us to be able to do more action. Really? Don't you wish you could do a film where you get to just say one line a day? Oh, yeah, Keanu barely speaks in those movies. That's what I mean. You know, when I was a kid, my favorite movies were all action movies. My favorite movies were like Terminator 2 and Die Hard. And I mean, I still love those movies. Those are some of my favorite movies. But I loved action movies as a kid. When I was a little kid, I, you know, it's, I was, I mean, I liked comedy and all the stuff. But I feel like once you start talking, you, it's diminishing returns. Like once you actually start talking and film, everyone's like, oh, that's how they talk. Oh, they're saying that. But like, but if you never talk, like which are you trying to be like in a Fast and the Furious movie? What's the action movie? I would like more of like a born identity. Oh, whoa. Just walking through the streets of a European city. Leather jacket. I feel like everyone would get like, if I did that, everyone would go like, I'm like, well, that's the sometimes, sometimes people send me stuff that it's more serious. I'm like, they're just going to think I'm too silly to be this guy. And it's going to hurt the movie. I can't do it for you. I know what you mean. I can't show up as the villain. And people are going to be like, she's too nice. She's going to change her mind. I do think it's amazing when people like decide to do it 180 as an actor. And then they play someone really horrible. And you're just like, oh, no, we love that person. And now they're playing this. Some people can do it. You know, even when Keanu and I, one day, we were doing some press stuff together and there was like a room that I was waiting in between. And it happened to be like John Wick weekend. And like, I was watching some of the wicks of it. Like, wow, I can't believe he did this and then plays this very silly guy in my movie. And it's the same guy. It's really impressive. He just also has a great reputation for being a wonderful person. Keanu, like, it just seems like, you know, those kind of things just get out into the world. And he just seems like he's handled his giant fame and his like very long relationship. Yeah, he's been here for a long, long time. Yeah. I mean, when I was about to meet him, I did like a little film festival and I was rewatching like Parenthood and Parenthood. I just rewatched Parenthood on the plane. It's so good. It's incredible. It is. It's so good. During that weekend, with the John Wick weekend, they showed Parenthood too and I was watching in between and I was just like, wow. Very different. John Wick and Parenthood. Are there films that you go back to that are like your comfort watches? Like, if you're, if it's a rainy day and you're like, I'm going to put on a movie. Do you like to watch films? I love watching films and there's definitely like a film nerd element to my life and yeah, the movies I go back to a lot. I love, you know, working on this and all the time when I'm writing, I re-visit like being John Malkovich a lot. I love that. I love Eternal Sunshine. I love Eternal Sunshine. Those two I visit a lot. I love those. I love watching just older movies too. Me too. I mean, I feel like the joy of getting older is like looking back and realizing, oh, there's a lot of stuff I still haven't seen. Oh yeah, it never ends. I know. I mean, that's the thing that got me into being more diligent about watching film was, you know, I realized, oh, all these directors that I love, whether it's like Scorsese or Paul Thomas Sanders, whatever, they've seen every movie and I was like, that can't be a good thing. I mean, I gotta be honest, sometimes it's overwhelming. Like the way people who make films talk about films definitely makes me feel like stressed. Oh, I had to go on like TCM or whatever and I was like, hey man, I might get some things wrong here because like Scorsese will be like, and the person that did the craft services here, you know, he was making these ham sandwiches that had this special kind of cheese that everybody loved and Greta Garble didn't like them. So for her, he would do it with turkey. Totally. I don't know. I don't know it. I know. It's just, and it definitely feels like that feeling like when you have an oral exam in school. I was watching Parks and Recreation and you know, any Polish kids call disease, I'm sorry, turkey sandwich. How do you remember all this Scorsese? I know, it's intense. Okay, speaking of food though, turkey sandwich and food, I want to talk to you about food. Sure. Okay, before we wrap because I feel like the food, your relationship to food is ties into the bigger idea of you like trying to open yourself up to a lot of stuff in life, like being curious. Sure. You growing up, what was the food you were eating growing up? My mom would cook Indian food and there was a woman that took care of us, her name was Ms. Bula, and she cooked Southern food. So there would be, you know, Indian food like biryani or whatever, and then there'd be like chicken and dumplings. Incredible. Weirdly, I think we'd eat a little bit of both. So I grew up on Southern food and Indian food. Okay, and then when did you become, when did you start realizing like, I actually care very much about what I eat and I want to learn how to cook and be a good cook? It's interesting, yes, because I think people think of me as like, oh, it's easy, and that was all the restaurants. I know, I actually like just cook at home all the time now. I love to cook and that, I think it happened and a lot of it was during COVID. I started cooking more and more and it was kind of what our day was based around. It's like, oh, we're going to cook because I was in London during COVID and the farmers markets and stuff to enclose and you kind of walk around and so food became a way to kind of structure your day a little bit. But during COVID, I wanted to learn all of my mom's recipes and so I asked my mom to help me because Indian food is very intimidating. Oh, big time. But it's not as, wait, do I ever send you those cookbooks I make? I make these cookbooks for friends. I got to send you one, I'm sorry. No. I'll send you all of them. No, wait, so you like transcribed your mom's recipes? Not all of them, but like every year, like during Christmas time, I make this, I'm so sorry, I have sent it to you. I'll send it to you. No worries. But yeah, I just, whatever I've been cooking that year. I started during COVID and then I just kind of kept it going. Oh, that's awesome. But Indian food is what I really love to cook. What makes Indian food like for a person just cooking like hard to cook? It's nothing hard. It's just, you know, I would ask my mom, like, oh, how much of that coriander powder you put in? It's like, I don't know. I didn't, you know, and you're like, wait, and you're scared that you're going to mess it up. But it's not like baking, you know, where like, oh, if you put like a teaspoon too much, it's not really going to screw it up too much. And the other thing that's super helpful is YouTube. If you can, because you can watch, there's all these people in like, you know, aunties and stuff in India that have YouTube channels and they show you how to cook everything and seeing it visually makes it a little less intimidating. Yes. And you just got to do that first trip to the Indian store and get, I always think that term is kind of funny. It does what everybody calls like the Indian grocery store, they call the Indian store. But that sounds like you're going and buying Indian people. No, you're not. It's just ingredients. But you just got to get all the stuff and they keep in the pantry and then it's like, oh yeah, everything's like, oh yeah, slice of onions and some little ginger garlic and then some spices and then maybe a tomato and then you put the chicken in, stir it around 20 minutes and it's done. Yeah. Wait, can I tell you, so I cooked for Rashida like a week ago. She lives really close to me and her family came over and she brought her little kid and she was like, I was like cooking Indian food and she's like, can you make something for him, something not too intense? I was like, oh, I got it. I'm going to make him chicken 65. That's like, it's like, like Indian chicken nuggets almost. They're like little pieces of chicken, little kids love it. So every little, and then every kid loves it. And so I made them chicken 65 and he ate it and then he started going crazy. He just like had so much energy and then I realized it's because the chicken 65, they put red food coloring in it to make it bright red and the red food coloring has that dye that makes the kids go crazy. Go crazy and got a pumped up. Yeah. So now whenever they come over, I just make a bunch of chicken 65 and he goes nuts. Wait, it is so funny they say that because we do a thing here on the podcast where we like to talk to somebody before the podcast. We talk well behind their back. Okay. And I get a question and I just talked to Rashida. Oh, well. And Rashida just told us that you made her chicken 65. She loves it. She's like, let's come for Derrick again. I was like, what do you watch? Chicken 65. She loves it. And in many ways, we both, Rashida and I feel like we were your auntie at times on that show. Oh, of course. And I know Rashida and you guys, and she was talking about like how, you know, what we were talking about earlier that you are, like what she really respects about you is the way that you're a curious person always trying to learn more about yourself and the world. And her question was, and she was like, you know, saying you're a very, very good chef. Oh, chef or cook. What would you say? Chef cook? Cook, right? Chef seems like someone else's call you a chef. I'm not that good. Yes. I'm not that great. If you get the right hat, you become a chef. Yeah. You just put it on. But as a cook, she wanted me to ask you, what is your favorite thing to cook? I love to cook Indian food. And I love cooking stuff. I think there's something special about the food you ate growing up and the food your family made. And I think there's something, you know, one time I went to India and I stayed for a little extra time and I asked my family, I was like, oh, who's like really like kind of the mean cooks? Like who can I learn from? And I stayed for a couple of days with some people that were a little bit distraught. It's like my aunt's sister or something like that. And they showed me so much stuff and they were cooking in their home and showed you. Yeah. And just learning like home food that comes from your family. I think there's something special about it. And, you know, because that's, I think that's something important to pass down. And, you know, with my own parents, you know, they're, they're all healthy and everything. But, you know, you start thinking about their, their time and just like, oh, wow, like it's a piece of your family history that I think is cool to try to preserve. I feel like you also took cooking lessons somewhere else too. Did you go to Italy or? In season two of Master Nones. That also gave me a big help to be comfortable in the kitchen. So it made it less intimidating. But season two took place in Italy. So before we filmed it, I went and lived in this town in Italy and I learned Italian a little bit and I worked in these kitchens and these places and these, these people did not really know who I was. And I was like, yeah, I'm working on a TV show. And they're like, oh, okay. And then, but they, they let me work in the kitchens and I, I learned a lot from these, these people that were there and they were so nice and it kind of gave me some confidence to, to kind of start with the Italian food. And then there was a couple of Indian things I could make. But then it went during COVID, I really started, I had more time. I had nothing to do. So I was just like, okay, I'm going to keep pushing this. I always say this, I did not grow up cooking at all. And my, I had a busy working mom who, you know, I grew up in the seventies and early eighties. So I didn't have a ton of, you know, we didn't, we didn't have like a cooking family. And I always say it's never too late to start trying because it is very like low risk, high reward, like try a dish. And if it doesn't work, you just, nobody knows, you can just throw it away. Like you can just, and when it does work, you feel like incredible repetition as the father of learning. Yes. Lil Wayne said that. He did. He did. Yeah. Amazing. I mean, I don't know if he was quoting someone else. Maybe, maybe, maybe. We'll see. We'll look it up. What are you laughing at these days? What are you watching, reading? I know you're not addicted to your phone. You have a flip phone. But what are you, what do you do to laugh? Where do you go? For laugh. I know. What do I watch to laugh recently? I know. Cause it's kind of hard when comedy is your job. You don't watch as much comedy sometimes. You don't. And, and, you know, when you, when you, when you come from the standup world, we all know that the way standups laugh is they just watch each other and go, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different thing. They go, yeah, that was funny. What was I laughing at recently? I know. Anything that you do when you're trying to. I just, my, you know, every now and then my wife will show me some silly internet thing. She's, she showed me something. It was like, it was like a meme of like a dolphin look. It was like looking happy. And it was like me letting the flight attendant know I'm ready for a snack. And it was a dolphin. It's like, like just stupid stuff like that. Okay, let's look up that dolphin. They get the dolphin. I love, I love a meme. Yeah. Those kind of things. Movies and stuff. What I know. I mean, I mean, I love some of those old movies like the apartment, like just those things just make me laugh so hard. You don't, you don't go on TikTok or anything like that, right? No, I never really been on TikTok. I've seen videos. I'm not like a, you know, I've seen some of the stuff. Some of that stuff has made me laugh. But sometimes I see the stuff I don't understand. It's not him. It's not him. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like a cookie. That's pretty close. But the one my wife sent me, the dolphin had a better smile. I got to find it. I got to send it to you later. Do you watch anything? Are you watching any shows right now that like is, is, you know, I mean, it's an interesting time right now for comedy. I mean, good fortune is a great example of like, there's not a lot of just straight comedies out there in the world right now. To be like an original idea, that's a comedy that's in theaters. Like to have even one of those three now is wild. It is. And I, you know, Seth and I were always talking about this of how we wanted the movie to be theatrical and how, you know, I remember going in New York when I was in school, going to see like Anchorman and, you know, Fordio version, all these movies and just being in like a back theater and just dying. And, and I think that's, that's something I miss. And I hope, I hope it comes back and I hope more people get to make comedies and that we get that back because it's so much better to be in a group and laugh. You know, if you go to a live show, you know, if you go to a live show, like a UCB or a standup tour, there's so many people there and you don't realize how much the other people that experience is part of it. Like if you come see me do stand up at a theater, it's, oh man, we're having a great time. But I just came to your house and just started doing standups and you're sitting by yourself. That's not a good experience. This is, but that to me is like the, you know, streaming a movie and being on your phone at the same time is like, well, that's the same thing. I know it's back to the phone. It's back to the phone. And the theater is still the only place where you're not allowed to be in your phone. I love going to the movie theater. It's so fun. I'm so happy that you came as a, I gotta tell you, I, you know, whenever I was like, okay, we gotta do this press tour for the movie. I was like, oh, well, I know one thing I'll be looking forward to very much. And that was this and spend time with you. Same. It's always a pleasure when we get to see each other. And thank you for having me. Turkey sandwich. I'm so happy that you came. Hold on one second. Hey, Watson. Yeah, yeah, I'm just finishing up the pod. Okay, I'll see you there. What? No, I haven't seen Archie and Abel in a long time. I don't know. I think, I think they're in their 20s. All right. Take care, Watson. Bye. Thank you Aziz Ansari for coming by and hanging. It was so great to see you and to go down memory lane and talk about all the good things ahead. And now it is time for our Polar Plunge. And today's Polar Plunge is presented by BMW Certified. In a world full of uncertainty, BMW Certified pre-owned vehicles are the real deal. They come with a BMW Certified warranty, genuine BMW parts, and an additional three years of 24-7 roadside assistance. Visit BMWUSA.com slash certified dash pre-owned to learn more. So for this Polar Plunge, I just want to stick up for my phone a little bit. I feel like we've been pretty hard on the phone in this episode and we've talked about how bad it is for us. And look, I agree. But my best friend gives me a lot of things. It helps me track my other friends and send them creepy texts like, oh, I see that you're at the airport. Have a good flight. My phone lets me buy things by just going beep, just sweeping it across the thing. And you don't even know, you don't have to take out your credit card. My phone, it just tells me about all the awful news that's happening minute by minute all over the world. And if I missed it, it pops up to remind me. So just take it easy on my phone, okay? It's my best friend and it's never let me down. But seriously, help me, help me get away from it. Please help. So today's Polar Plunge was presented by BMW Certified as a BMW Certified owner. You receive the performance you expect plus the warranty and assistance you deserve. Learn more at BMWUSA.com slash certified dash pre-owned. Thank you, Aziz. Thank you for everyone listening. Good hang and we'll see you again. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weisberman and me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite. For the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spelane, Kaya McMullen and Aleah Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weisberman. Original music by Amy Miles.