TARAN KILLAM Did A Silent Disco in Snowy Canada
66 min
•Jan 27, 20264 months agoSummary
Taran Killam joins the Meyers Brothers to discuss family travel experiences, from childhood desert camping trips to adult adventures in Europe. The conversation weaves together personal stories about growing up in Big Bear and Manhattan Beach, international travel that shaped his worldview, and how he approaches family vacations with his wife Kobe and their children.
Insights
- Childhood travel experiences in resource-constrained environments (desert camping, budget trips) create lasting memories and resilience that shape adult travel preferences and parenting approaches
- Sibling dynamics and birth order significantly influence how adults approach family bonding and travel, with middle children often becoming connectors across age gaps
- Exposure to historical and cultural contexts during formative travel experiences (London, Edinburgh, Greece) creates perspective shifts that influence career and life decisions
- Parents who grew up with limited means often intentionally create different travel experiences for their own children while maintaining values around work ethic and appreciation
- Silent discos represent a broader trend of experiential entertainment that creates shared moments while allowing individual choice and agency within group settings
Trends
Multigenerational family travel planning becoming more intentional and structured, with parents curating experiences that balance education, adventure, and independenceShift from destination-focused vacations to experience-focused travel, particularly among families with teenagers seeking autonomy and skill-building opportunitiesRemote work and flexible schedules enabling extended summer stays (6+ weeks) in secondary properties, changing family vacation patterns from short trips to seasonal livingParents leveraging local employment opportunities for teenage children during extended stays to build work ethic and financial independenceNostalgia-driven travel to childhood destinations becoming a way for adults to share formative experiences with their own children and process family historyEuropean hiking and hut-to-hut trekking gaining popularity among affluent families as alternative to traditional resort vacationsExperiential entertainment (silent discos, staged readings, interactive events) becoming preferred family activities over passive consumption
Topics
Family vacation planning and multi-generational travelChildhood travel experiences and their long-term impactDesert camping and extreme weather recreationInternational travel and cultural educationSibling relationships and birth order dynamicsParenting teenagers on extended family tripsWork-life balance and remote work enabling travelYouth employment and financial independenceEuropean hiking and adventure travelSilent disco entertainment technologyNostalgia and family heritage tourismBig Bear and California mountain communitiesSNL career trajectory and entertainment industryStaged theatrical readings and community eventsAI-generated misinformation and media literacy
Companies
Apple Card
Sponsor providing no-fee credit card product with Apple Pay integration for iPhone users
Disney Plus
Streaming service advertising original series and content including Rivals and High Potential
NBC
Network where Taran Killam's new sitcom Stumble Friday Nights airs
LA Rams
NFL team that Taran Killam is a fan of; discussed playoff game performance during recording
Snow Summit
Ski resort in Big Bear where Taran's mother worked, providing free skiing access during childhood
Agua Caliente Resort and Casino
Venue in Rancho Mirage, California where Taran is performing comedy on March 13th
Talking Stick Resort
Venue in Scottsdale, Arizona where Taran is performing comedy on March 14th
The Factory
Comedy venue in Chesterfield, Missouri where Taran is performing on April 10th
Midland Theater
Venue in Kansas City, Missouri where Taran is performing comedy on April 11th
Paramount Theater
Venue in Colorado where Taran is performing comedy on May 8th
Route 66 Casino Hotel
Venue in Albuquerque, New Mexico where Taran is performing comedy on May 9th
Dynasty Typewriter
Theater in Los Angeles where Patrick Cotmoy produces Star Wars staged readings
People
Taran Killam
Guest discussing family travel experiences, childhood in Big Bear, and current work on Stumble Friday Nights
Seth Meyers
Co-host of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers podcast, discusses personal travel experiences with Taran
Josh Meyers
Co-host of the podcast, participates in discussion about family travel and skiing preferences
Sarah Silverman
Guest on Seth's show who mentioned seeing Taran with his dog Debbie in Los Angeles
Mackenzie Killam
Taran's wife; discussed birthday celebration and family travel experiences in Canada and Europe
Alexi Meyers
Seth's wife; participated in Tour de Mont Blanc hike and discussed family travel dynamics
Patrick Cotmoy
SNL alumni who produces Star Wars staged readings where Taran performed as General Hux
Vic McHale
Cast member in Star Wars staged reading, played Rey
Lorraine Newman
Cast member in Star Wars staged reading, played Maz Kanata and Captain Phasma
Kevin Smith
Cast member in Star Wars staged reading, played Han Solo
Kenan Thompson
Shared manager with Taran; led to Taran's Mad TV audition opportunity
Mike Tomlin
Discussed resigning as Steelers coach after 19 years with no losing seasons
Quotes
"I married a Canadian. So like my heart's in Whistler when it comes to like winter recreation, I'm going to Whistler, which puts all of it to shame."
Taran Killam•Early in episode
"Understanding how small my world had been, you know, like a kid from Big Bear and just culturally very isolated. And the independence was amazing."
Taran Killam•Mid-episode
"It is just so funny when you look and you're like, huh, like when you think about what your country looked like when they were built in this house."
Seth Meyers•Discussing European architecture
"I love a silent disco. And so Kobe got me my own silent disco set. And the four of us had a silent disco dance party in the snow Christmas night."
Taran Killam•Late episode
"When you realize you're dancing to the wrong rhythm and you switch, I think I'm the kind of person that would think that was the problem."
Josh Meyers•Silent disco discussion
Full Transcript
Hi, Bajie. Hi, Sufi. I had a guest on my show this week who said she runs into you all the time. Who's that? Sarah Silverman. Oh yeah, it's true. And I will say incredible dog name recall. Oh yeah, she's a dog lady. She's a dog babe, because she goes, yeah, I always see him with his dog. Janet, nope, Debbie. And I'm like, Janet is such a funny, like that is like right in the realm of Janet and Debbie. Well, I believe she has a Mary. Oh, funny. Yeah, she's got a little old girl named Mary. It was very sweet. Debbie is an old girl. Yeah, yeah. And I did say to Sarah, because she goes, I saw it, I see him with Debbie. And I said, oh yeah, Debbie's getting old. And she goes, yeah, I see him. Like, I like that she's like, that she wasn't like, what? Not mine, not that Debbie. Yeah. They also, she's got like a big sort of rowdy dog that will run up on Debbie. And Debbie doesn't know what to do about it. And it's, but she's not mad at it. Debbie sort of, when she encounters a dog with big puppy energy, she's sort of is like a bit rattled, but then also like it doesn't snap at some of those dogs, which is nice. Yeah, she's also, you know, her boyfriend, Rory, who you see, do you see him when you go to Kamel? Rory's great. Sometimes there, and sometimes he'll be in the park also with Sarah and the dogs. She, in her special, has a very funny joke about how she's been dating him for a long time and still can't quite say Rory, right? And Axl also has a really good friend named Rory. And as you can imagine, Rory is a real hard for Axl. Yeah, woe-wee. Will we? Hey, I'm going on the road this weekend. When does this one air? I think next Tuesday. All right, so it'll be too late. I think yeah. I think Tuesday the 27th. Okay, so I will have just been in Charlotte and Durham. So if you live there, you missed it. But maybe could I use this time, Posh, to say a few places I'm doing shows? Sure, yeah, go for it. I feel like, you know, for the Trippers, they might wanna, they wanna, I'm gonna be at the, in March, March 13th, at the Agua Caliente Resort and Casino in Rancho Mirage, California. I'm gonna be at the Talking Stick Resort on March 14th in Scottsdale, Arizona. Oh yeah. April 10th, the factory in Chesterfield, Missouri. April 11th, the Midland Theater in Kansas City, Missouri. And May 8th, I'm going to be at the Paramount Theater in Colorado and May 9th, Route 66 Casino Hotel in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Now, you obviously know that, and probably our listeners at this point are well aware that my wife's entire family is from Albuquerque. And you'll like, you'll be happy or and also not surprised to know that after my May 9th date was listed, my mother-in-law wrote and said, could you do it on a different date? Because she understands how showbiz works. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty psyched to be in New Mexico without them though. Oh yeah, well, they might find a way to get there. Knowing them, there's a chance. Yeah, there's always a chance. They're always looking for a reason to go back home. That's true. Yeah, Route 66 turns 100 years old this year. Does it? Oh yeah, that's right. You're doing a special, have you done your episode on California Now about it? Yeah, California Now video episode, which also is just a regular podcast, but did that and it's, I learned a lot about that highway when we did it. It goes from Chicago all the way to Santa Monica. Classic Road. Yeah, you know who would love to talk to you about it? Tom Ash. Yeah, my father-in-law. I can't believe he, by the way, we need to, you got to send it to him and tell him you did a video podcast episode about Route 66. Yeah, but then he might like want to call and talk about it. He want me to follow up. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Did I tell you, I told you in person, but not on the pod that he sent me a really interesting thing about some breaking news in late night, vis-a-vis the current administration's unhappiness with it. Oh yeah, he said, he said this is worth watching and it was the most AI generated news story I've ever seen. And I had to break the news to him that he had sent me a thing that was not real. Yeah. Well, get used to it, Tom and you. Oh man, I mean, by the way, get used to it is right. Yeah. It's only getting better. AI's only getting better. Old people only getting older. Me included. Yeah. I don't know what I can believe or can't believe. Yeah. I mean, for all I know right now, you're a bot. Could be. That would be exactly what a bot would say. Try to be blasé about it. That's funny, Seth. That's enough. Ha ha ha ha. Terran, kill him. What are we gonna do? Were you gonna say it to cut you off? Well, I was just gonna say it was my wife, Mackenzie, it was her birthday last, I don't know, Friday. Did she keep the streamers up from your birthday to hers? Yeah. And then the next day, I ripped them down. Yeah. But we went to the Huntington Garden with her dad. And we went out to lunch at the Rose Tea House. Which is a lovely sort of like high end, you get high tea, sort of a stack of silver things in a tower with like all these little finger sandwiches and like these four little desserts. And you think that this isn't gonna be enough food, but when you get like six tiny sandwiches and four little tiny desserts, that's tons of food. More than enough, yeah. More than enough. But it was really lovely. And we had a great trip with her dad out here. Who's an easy going guy. So yeah, we said goodbye to him last night. And that was a great trip. And happy birthday to my wife. I said it on the day, but happy belated as you're listening to this. My darling. Also, if you're listening to this, I don't agree with keeping the streamers up that long. There's too much time between your two birthdays. I think you gotta- Well, I did, I do think for my birthday next year, what I want for my birthday is to not have streamers up and for me to be able to put them up for her birthday. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Cause it makes it sound like you wanna do a nice thing for her, but what you're really saying is you don't want 10 days of streamers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Terran Killam, a lovely guy. He's on a great new show on NBC. It's called Stumble Friday Nights. It's very fun when there's a new sitcom that is actually working on television. So I'm so happy for Terran. His voice is pretty wrecked in this episode. Oh yeah. He's real raspy from football and, but he's real happy right now. Cause he is a LA Rams fan. Once again, by the time you're hearing this, the Rams will either be in the Super Bowl or they will be out, but certainly Terran, as of this recording was in a pretty, pretty good place. Yeah. Also, I believe in this episode, we talk about how you and I and our now wives hiked half of the Tour de Mont Blanc. Yeah. And you're like, I think it's just Tour de Mont Blanc. I did say that. I did say that. Confidently. It is Tour de Mont Blanc. Well, don't I feel like a doom, doom. You are a doom, doom. But enjoy this episode with our good buddy Terran. Enjoy it everybody. Bye. Family chips with the my brothers. Family chips with the my brothers. Here we go. Ta-da. Well, well, well. Yeah. Well, I was hoping this was gonna be a happier Monday for all of us. I know. Thank you for thinking of us. I was gonna, you know what? I was gonna even be like, oh, look at Mr. Rams still in the play house, but then you opened with empathy and I should have just been happy for you. This is such a classy move. I have so much gack on either side of the computer of Rams celebratory gear and I didn't do it. You just zoom super close. You had to go super close. I forgot. I forgot. You love head space. I forgot your head space Myers. I asked Josh, cause you're from Big Bear. And I said, was that where you ski? And he goes, no, I ski at Mammoth. Big Bear's not worth it. And then he said, I'm not gonna say that obviously. And then I said, well, I'm opening with it. Nothing, nothing he said is in factual. Big Bear is convenient. Big Bear's nice. It's, you can like when they say in California, you can surf in the morning, you can ski at night. That's what Big Bear's for. Mammoth is an actual ski resort. And I married a Canadian. So like my heart's in Whistler when it comes to like winter recreation, I'm going to Whistler, which puts all of it to shame. So you basically go somewhere that makes Mammoth look like Big Bear. Correct. Yeah. Correct. Cause I'm a small man. I'm a small man. To not to nitpick here, but I believe that Whistler is pretty low elevation wise. And Mammoth gets up to 11,000 feet. And so I don't know. For people who hate breathing. Yeah, Mammoth's the way to go. But people who like low, wide mountains. Yeah. Low, wide, endlessly traversable, freshly fallen snow Whistler. Were you, was it a very outdoorsy life growing up in Big Bear? Definitely, definitely. So like age zero to six was Manhattan Beach. So we were beach people first and then snow. And Big Bear was like second grade to ninth grade. It was hiking in the summer. It was like, you know, boating on the lake. And then, yeah, my mom worked at Snow Summit, the shitty ski resort that Josh hates. And so we got to go for free. We would ski all the time. We would go like after school basically. So what is like a family trip life or a family that basically lives in a place where other families come? It's a wonderful question. We would go to the desert. We were not a family of means, but we were a big family. I have four siblings. And so we would go to Lake Mojave every summer. And we would get up at three in the morning and we drive, you know, it's like a three hour drive to Arizona. It's right on the border of Arizona and Nevada. It's like Laughlin and then another 15 minute drive north. And you rent the boat or we had friends with boats and you camp out on the beach of the lake. Like it's desert camping. So you're you're in swim trunks the whole time and you live in the water because it gets as hot as like 120 degrees. It's like cooking. It's cooking. So you have to go full extreme. If you're if you have nature accessible in your backyard, you go even more extreme. You go would you like to drive out of town while tourists are coming in and you like to like simps. You flatlanders, you dumb flatlanders. Where did you do you sleep on the boat? Is it like one of those Lake Powell kind of things? Some do some some who who can handle it because it gets quite windy. So it will knock you back and forth on the boat. You really stick down your tent and you just on a cold night, you're piling blankets, but then it can switch like that. It can be it can be exhaustingly hot. And if it gets really bad, then you rent a room in Laughlin and you go to the buffet and you, you know, if you're of age, you go to the casino. If you're a kid like me, you go to the to the arcade. And spend fifty dollars in thirty minutes. What's your game? What's your arcade game? What was your game? X-Men, the X-Men game was huge and I like to play as Nightcrawler. Is that one of those where there's like four different players? Or is it just a big console is a big rounded console. Sunset riders. Do you remember Sunset Riders and other side scroller where you were you were four different cowboys. Did it also have like the Zoltar machine from big? And is that where you wished to marry someone in the Marvel Universe? Yeah, exactly right. All my dreams came true. I wish for the Rams. I wish for the Rams to win a Super Bowl five years coming back. Oh, you got multiple wishes on your Zoltar. Yeah, nobody's going to Laughlin. That Zoltar was so needy. He's always like ask another one. Ask another one. You want to be on SNL? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do that. Amatv, you want to have them both? Have them both. Do do another sketch show produced by Nick Cannon. Like I know that sounds crazy, but you can ask for that. Was this a trip? How long was the drive? Did you say it was like a like a three and a half four hour drive from Big Barry, I think. And now was this a trip that you and the other kill them? Ken, we're excited about of of the four siblings of the five siblings, including myself, I think three loved it and two were like, I'm good. Were they just more indoor cats or or do you just think it was too extreme? It's column A and column B. And I think by the time we started going as a family, they were already in their teens and they're like, can we like go somewhere cool and not a place where you have to check your shoes for scorpions? Yeah, I think they're one to like, I think there's an age where like if there's no element of like shopping, I don't mean like shopping in the sense of like just you want to be you want to go somewhere where you can like at least go like buy your own burger with a little bit of independence. And I think the social game there is bad because you're trapped. It's it's just you guys and you have to take like a 10 minute boat ride back to the dock to get to a street. Yeah. So yeah, I think I think it was a bit of a hostage. Desert people. Are you saying there's not a lot of social A lot of a lot of vagrants. A lot of a lot of are you also are you also not of means hooded her. At night we go underground. Were you when you would be camping, were you cooking over a campfire? Yeah, you bring like little boilers, you bring propane. You know, there was no live flame, no. Like I don't think that was too windy. I think you'd probably set people's tents on fire. Exactly. Exactly. You'd kill people. There was one year I took the trip over when I was like once I was in college, I brought all my college guys and it changed the dynamic of the trip dramatically. It went from like a nice family trip where the kids are in the water to just debauchery. And then once I had children of my own, I was like, I'm going to I have to up the stakes even more. So I got a houseboat. And it was a bad idea because it is hard to stake. You know, I'm going to guess a five ton houseboat into soft sand with high wind. It was impossible. Every morning we woke up and it had drifted around the bend and was like across the I had to swim across like this bay of the lake to retrieve the houseboat one morning. That's why they ultimately decided just to just do houses. They were like, why are we putting these on boats? We went water first. Yeah, we should just because it bear with me. What if these just were on land? Yeah. And then we had a different thing. We just would call those boats. Then how do you just split these up? And then how do you get to other houses? Oh, you can't. You're not going to believe it. You just like walk or drive. Huh. Would you, where do you fall on the birth order? I don't think I knew. I got to be honest. I'm I don't think I knew you had four siblings. I'm a bit. Yeah. I'm I'm in the middle. The older two are eight and 10 years older. Okay. And then it's me and then I have a younger sister and the baby is the brother. Gotcha. Does he mind being called the baby? Do you all still call him the baby? Yeah. No choice. I'm trying. I'm trying to work on it. I'm trying to work on it. Yeah. But I think there's probably some spite. I really feel if you have three kids or more, you're all the little ones always the baby. I mean, I'm always the baby. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, that's based on behavior. But you're more, you're more like a baby. Oh, baby. Oh, baby. Baby. Baby. You're money, baby. Baby wants a vegan soup, baby. Oh, baby. Let me let's go biking, baby. Baby is such a good biker. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Apple Card is designed with your iPhone in mind, making it easy to get started and even easier to use. Apple Card is a no fee credit card you can apply for right from the wallet app on your iPhone. Apple Card has no annual fee, no late fees and no foreign transaction fees. No fees period. Every credit card should be this easy. Get started in the wallet app today. Variable APRs for Apple Card range from 17.49% to 27.74% based on credit worthiness. Rates as of January 1, 2026. Existing customers can view their variable APR in the wallet app or at card.apple.com. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank, USA's Salt Lake City branch. Terms and more at applecard.com. Do you, uh, uh, That's a funny gap to have like two kids wait eight years and then do three more. Yeah. Uh, different biological father. Got it. All right. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. But all raised under the same, the same roof. There you go. That makes total sense. And, uh, were you close with your younger ones then? The ones below you? Great. All, all of them really, like, like the older sisters were very cool older sisters. Like, gotcha. All my comedy, um, education came from my older sister, Rachel. She knew like kids in the hall and Monty Python and she was really hip. And so like, and, and then my older sister, Erin, was like the music one. She was like guns and roses and they both were pretty good at music. Like, I remember Rachel and she was me to Nirvana, like probably slightly earlier than what the demo was, you know, I think I was, I think I was in like third grade. Um, but yeah. So I benefited from my older siblings and love them and we're still very close. Um, but the younger three, it's amazing. Like when I see my son with someone who's exactly the same age and if that person, if that kid has two older siblings and Ash has two younger, it's like they look like they're like socially they're like almost three year age gap. Right. Right. Because the one with older siblings knows everything. Like they're the ones that are like, you listen to Nirvana and he's like, nah, I'm a K-pop. Have you heard about K-pop? Yeah. I'm golden for days. Yeah. Yeah. We have, we have a big gap with our daughters. It's five and a half years. And I was a little like, I don't know. I don't know. I you're supposed to be like two years apart. And it's been beautiful. It's great because they each have their own lane. And the older one looks out for the younger one with a healthy amount of like get out of my face and a little one worships the big one with a healthy amount of like, you're not the parent, don't boss me around. It's worked out really nice. It's great. That's great. Yeah. By the way, your daughter came the last time you were on my show. And sometimes I forget because I've worked in the same building for the entire of my career. Like I forget the passage of time is happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Until someone I met when they started with a baby is like, here is a full grown human. I know. I know. We're doing college stuff now. It's great. It's crazy. Unbelievable. Her life experiences are starting to happen where I still vividly remember my own. Yeah. You know what I mean? She's an age where I'm like, I remember filling out my UC application form very well. Well, I always like Alexi always busts on me because sometimes when I see people on the street with like Northwestern sweatshirts, I'm always like, hey, go cats. And they're like, go cats. And I'm like, when'd you graduate? And she's like, stop. They none of them graduated. So dangerous. Such a dangerous bunch of cats. None of them are even in the zip code of when you graduated. Yeah. We I have adult. I have adult fellow employees that graduated this millennium. Like not, not 18. I have, I have, I have employees, peers who can rent a car without buying extra insurance. You are just so that was you would do desert times. Yeah. And on the drive. So was that a seven? Was that a seven person drive? Yeah. My dad was in construction and had a truck. And then in the early days, he had like a camper that you'd hook onto the back. And that was so fun because you would you would like haul it or it would turn the the bed into. OK, you'd haul it. Yeah. It was a full hauler thing. And you get up at 3 a.m. And so you like crawl out of your bed and you get into the camper truck and you try to sleep till you get to like like Bakersfield. And then you stop for donuts. And it's like it's the freshest donut you've ever had in your life. They just came out of the fryer. And then you watch the sunrise like driving. California is a beautiful state, you guys. Yeah, really spectacular. And driving east through the desert as the sun rises is some of like the most spectacular visuals I've ever experienced in my life to this day. Yeah, that's fantastic. And it is. I mean, it is kind of crazy also that Kobe, your wife is from one of the other most beautiful places in the world. It's wild. It's wild. We have a we have a place now like three hours north of Vancouver, like even beyond Whistler and it's it's my happy place. I wish to be there all the time. How often are you? Is it a place you only go during, I would imagine, vacations from school for the kids? Big summer breaks like we try to do six weeks in the summer, but we just did our first Christmas there. And it was we got we got a Christmas snow. We did one of my gifts. I love a silent disco. Yeah. And so Kobe got me my own silent disco set. And the four of us had a silent disco dance party in the snow Christmas night. Wow. It was it's like my new favorite Christmas. I mean, I remember when a silent disco was a very new thing. And I hope it's not crazy to feel like we need to explain it to people. Does everybody know what a silent disco is now? Because it's the greatest invention of all time. Show of hands. Show of hands. Well, yeah, I mean, we do that. I know exactly where I was the first time we encountered it. Seth and I were in Scotland and Edinburgh. We were in this old church where you couldn't play like if you tried to play music in there, it would echo all through sort of in different places. And I don't know if your silent disco would have competing DJs. We have channels. Yeah, two channels. So we went and two DJs and two different parts of the room and you could set your, you know, headphones to like a green light or a red light. And that way you could look at someone else and know what channel they were listening to. Or you would see that a bunch of people were dancing to a different rhythm than the music you were listening to and what's happening here. And click over and then you can, you know, pop your headphone off and be like, hey, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back at that volume and have a conversation. It's like stepping into a different dimension because taking the headphones off, suddenly everybody's zombified. Like they're all moving at slightly different rhythms, even if they're on the same channel anyway. They're probably like just just off pace anyway. But it's it's so I love it because it is that thing too, where like I've I've hosted a few where I curate the playlist, like the different playlists and you see like you try to beat yourself on each song. Oh yeah. And watch the watch the wave of color shift as people are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shout shout is on channel red. Shouts on red. Shouts on red. I was going to say there is that Josh being like, when you realize you're dancing to the wrong rhythm and you switch, I think I'm the kind of person that would think that was the problem. Right. And then switch and be like, oh, what's up with these headphones? What's up with these headphones? Is there a yellow? Am I maybe on a third option? It's great when it's a really exciting song and you take the headphones off and you hear, you know, however many people are together, go a little bit softer now. I distinctly remember when we were in Scotland, half the people in the room going brimful of ash only 45. Just like but like mumble singing it sort of that like that's one where. Yeah, that's a song where people I think know way less of the actual lyrics. Yeah, only course. And then just silence. That's like that that that SNL sketch. Like it was like a compilation CD, but only singing the parts of people like Margaritaville. Like, yeah, yeah. Whisking away again in Margaritaville. Were you there for fringe? Were you in the edge? Yeah, that's what we're doing. Yeah, that's so cool. What a great. What was your first adult brother trip? Oh, like just us or like because we took us to you. Oh, I don't know. We lived in Amsterdam together, so that kind of felt like a trip. But adult trip together. We, I mean, I don't know if it's our first, but we did a hike with Seth and his then girlfriend, now wife, my with my then girlfriend, now wife to. And a third woman who failed to win either of us. That reality show should have been picked up. That was a great pilot. We did half of the Tour de Mont Blanc, which is a big hut to hut hike. Tour de Mont Blanc. I did not, you're making it the Tour de France. Just Tour de Mont Blanc. I don't want you to get shaved. Just Tour de Mont Blanc? It's not the Tour of Mont Blanc. All right, well. There are lots of tours out there and how do you know where it belongs? Exactly. We did have a moment on one of our hikes where, remember we had the cross of road that there was an actual bike race on? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like to watch an actual European bike race is to make you wonder why anyone would do it. We just were watching literally like a hundred people come up like what seemed like the craziest hill. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're with backpacks and then you just kind of wait for a moment and then just like kind of run across the road. When you first brought it up, I pictured it was like a flat like speed. Nope. Things flying by, but you're just watching guys go. Just grunting. Just like a real parade of quads. A lot of quad energy. But you would sort of naturally, I mean, kind of self-select and Seth and I would be hiking together for a bunch of it and Mackenzie and Alexi would be hiking together. And Alexi and Mackenzie were probably speaking thousands of words. And Seth and I would maybe say a hundred words over the course of three hours. Yeah. Yeah. Very contemplative when you're with your brother. Are you when you bring your kids, because they're teenagers, the girls, right? Yeah. Shea 16, Joelle is 11. So when you, how do they do on like a six week summer trip? Do they love it or? Our youngest is OK with it. She likes solitude anyway. She likes to like listen to a book on tape and like knit. She's a knitter. The 16 year old hates it, but. We got her a job. We got her, she loves to bake and there's this beautiful little local bakery up in up where our house is. And so she wake up every weekend at like five thirty a.m. and go and and and work for eight to ten hours. So that was awesome. That was really good. And and not something I think she could have done. With as much care here in the city. Yeah. Like it was very. And is she does she appreciate like a hard earned buck? Because I feel like that's a thing that like it's very important when still and your kids and we talk about 100 percent. So yeah. Yeah. I it waffles between like does she realize how good her life is? And she is such a like control is very important for her. And being at the at the helm of her own destiny matters to her. Like so that's how she operates. So every every dollar she earns is a diamond. Yeah. Yeah. And then has no problem ordering four things from from a Boba delivery place on our credit card. I feel like my kids appreciate how good their life is or at least I hope they do based on how many times I scream. Do you know how good your life is? It helps them. So I would like to know. I like I would like to know it's at least you're helping them. Yeah. Yeah. I think when they mock when they mockingly repeat it back to you is that a good sign that it's getting through? Uh huh. Repetition. When they say when they ask me they're like, do you know, get your life? It's like. They were they were so good on your show. They were so good. Oh, thanks. Yeah, they really were. Perfect. It's kind of crazy. They were because you'd been building up their legacy to I feel like on the show for so many years and all three of them just like said, like they just delivered exactly what you had promised. Yeah. I didn't even think of that. You're right. Like I definitely oversold them. And so if they'd come out and been like sort of three charisma less blobs, people would be like, oh, this dude. Well, I was backstage watching it with my parents and we were about to come on. And it was, you know, pre-taped from the day before. And you could see my mother just fearing the replacement that was coming. Yeah. She's like, oh, like, well, here they come. And also we have to follow that. We've got to follow that. Impossible. Impossible. They say that's a true grandmother when you're like, I've got to follow this shit. You know, that reminds me of is I had the great honor of being attending your wedding, Seth, and I witnessed the best wedding speech of all time. You did. When your father went up, your father went up and I was like, that's the best wedding speech I've ever seen. No one will ever top that speech. That is perfect. And then Josh went up and it was even better. It was even better. Josh's is still to this day. Do you know my dad's famous line about that? No. Which is someone came up to my dad at the end of the night and said, oh my god, during Josh's speech, I was crying. And my dad said, I was crying too. But because before he gave it, I was the best speech you'd ever heard. It's so true. It's so true. His was good too. His was good. Yeah. It was very good. You know, I just, in the last two months, watched both of them for the first time since that night. Wow. How was that? It was great. It was like exactly. It was a, and I had given it enough time where like it was kind of, you know, I remember the gist of it, but not the wonderful details. So it was a real joy. Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful, special, very special night. You, I also want to say that I think that you're, it feels like you have the cold I had yesterday. I know. So let's address it. This, none of this story will surprise you, Seth, but on Saturday, I went from feeling so confident at halftime at that Rams game. I was like, we got it. No problem. Into the most unnecessarily heart pounding, exhaustive back and forth against the Carolina Panthers. And I, you know, I was losing my mind. I was losing my mind and priming my voice to be lost. Yeah. Maybe even cooler. I then went to a staged reading of Star Wars, the Force Awakens. Where I played General Hux, the Domino Gleason role. Yeah. And he has that very famous scene where he's screaming over the storm troopers. Yep. And so a combination of a harrowing, but ultimately happy Rams playoff game into screaming Domino Gleason has led us to where we are today. Amazing. The fastest, I think 80% of everyone you've ever met would guess who lost their voice doing that if you just gave them one of those two. Yep. Yep. Yep. At 100, 150% if you said, yeah. I've cultivated a very specific brand for myself. They're like, hey, Taren's going to be here in a minute, but just FYI, he played General Hux in a staged reading of the game. Oh, so no voice. Yeah, no voice. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scratchy, scratchy, scratchy. How did that come about? Is it the kind of reading where they do other movies or was this sort of a standalone? This is, you know, Patrick Cotmoy. Yes. He was an SNL intern for years and now he's like this. And doesn't he do the, is he involved with the George Lucas show? Exactly. So he's this prolific producer now and he does a lot of, he's done a series of Star Wars staged readings and they did the originals and then they did the prequels and now they're into the later sequels. Where did you do it? Dynasty typewriter. Oh, great. Yeah. Have you been, it's a great theater. Yeah, great theater. It's one of the best LA theaters, yeah. Yeah. Who give us three other castings? Um, Vic McHales was Ray and was wonderful. Lorraine Newman was there. She was Maz Kanata. She was Captain Phasma. And then our Han Solo was Kevin Smith. Great. Which was really cool. Really, really fun. Really awesome. You know, you're saying you drove everywhere. Did you guys ever fly anywhere as a family when you were younger? No, no, we, my first, the first time I was on a plane was like a school, a school trip to DC. And that was very exciting. And then my freshman honors English class, we went to London and that, that trip changed my life. We were in London, we did the London dungeon. Do you know that wax, that wax, it was the best. My first night, my first night in, oh no, my first night in London. I'm sorry, you guys. I just didn't, I didn't want to cancel. No, no, this is great. By the way, if we were still at SNL, the sketch I would write is, um, General Hux on a podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everybody's, he's like, I'm sorry, I, this Stormtroopers, I had this thing. It's sort of trying to go for like an SS, you know. Yeah. We, we went the first night in London. My parents gave me my first ever ATM card and like $500 cash. And I blew all $500 at Sega world, which was in Lester square. Yeah. First night, $500. Just playing video games. Can't be trusted. Can't be trusted with money. Not good with money. Thank goodness for my daughter. And then I went to use the ATM card. It didn't work. It wouldn't, it wouldn't transfer the stupid big bear ATM card. And so I had to like borrow money, but basically just ate like free, free short bread for the rest of the trip. And I was like, ah, damn it. Each, each hotel we'd go to would have like free short bread, you know, on the bed pillow, and I would collect them. And in my backpack was just like 20 packages of short bread. And I came back 30 pounds heavier. That is really, that does feel like a made up cliche about London, which is like, if you're, and if you're, ATM doesn't work, you will be able to subsist on free short bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I felt like Frodo and Sam, you know, on Lempas bread. It's like hard tack and short bread. Yeah, exactly. We went to Edinburgh at the end of that trip and I like that city was just magical. It is one of the most magical places on earth. And I will say like landing, I always said like in August, when you land in Edinburgh, like when you look out the window, it feels like it's the whole country looks like a well-manicured golf course in the most beautiful way. Just like the color green. You're like, oh, this is like the kind of green that's, it's happening naturally and people spend so much money to make their lawn look like this. Yeah. And occasionally there'll be like a field of yellow wildflowers too. So it's just like, it looks like it, like just nature's chessboard. It's beautiful. How did that trip to London, you said it changed your life? Like was it a perspective thing or was there, did you see a show that did something? What was it? Understanding how small my world had been, you know, like a kid from, from at that point, Big Bear and just, you know, culture, culturally very isolated. And the independence was amazing. The idea that like, I'm on the other side of the world now. My parents, my parents are 5,000 miles, like literally on the other side of the planet. And then the history of London, of the UK, and just understanding how new the US is in comparison to the rest of the world, you know, that it really hit me on that trip. There's that. Do you know what I'm talking about? Posh right by the Tuchinsky Theater in Amsterdam. Like right on the turn of the Roken, there's like a building that like has 1601 on it. Because that was when it was built. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm all, it is just so funny when you look and you're like, huh, like when you think about what your country looked like when they were built in this house. And you're like, okay, that's, that's good to remember. Yeah. It's a, we did Greece this past summer. And that was similarly like, oh, we're so small. We're all just visitors. We're so lucky to be alive. Are you the kind of dad, do you think, when you are in Greece with your kids, do you feel like you over talk about the history? Or do you think you are, you allow them to take it in? Or maybe it's the exact amount they want. I try to take my shots. I try to like wait, let them tee it up, you know, like maybe like Kobe go, what'd you think? And then it's older than Jesus. That, that building you are standing on is older than Jesus. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I don't, they, they don't care for any, any guidance from me in terms of like, pop culture, history, you know, God, I thought I'd make it you guys. And now it's getting worse. Oh, no, it's fine. It's getting worse. Sorry. So did you, so you did some time in Athens when you were in Greece? It sounds like. Yeah. It was amazing. It was amazing. It was so beautiful. And then did you, did you Island Hop? Like what was your? A little bit, a little bit, just like a day trip. Okay. Amazing. Yeah. It was beautiful, beautiful, loved it. Like went to their version of Catalina, which is which is, um, A, Atheus, Athos, A, Athias. Athos. Athos. It's based on atheists who don't care if it was older than Jesus. They're there when you say, when you tell them they're like, Where's the proof? Where's the proof? A great story like monsters, Inc. stays with you forever. 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If your grandmother had a timeshare down there, was it just here and there? We mostly did it when I was very young. And my memory was always the most exciting part was coming back over the border with all the merchants. Because like merchants come up to your car and I had this bitch in like piggy bank. This panther that was like, you know, like plaster panther standing on a rock that and when I opened it, I waited till I couldn't put a coin in. And it was like, it was like three feet tall. And I waited till I couldn't put a coin in. And I think it was like $42. You had to break it to get the coin down? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was a big day. It was a big day. It was significant. And I was like, here we go. Rolling in it. Here we go. $42. Couldn't even get the video game I wanted. You're like, why did I use pennies? They're these like, I think it's like Coinstar or something like that now. If you want to like change your coins and you go to a like grocery store and you dump your coins in there and they take like 10% of your money. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's such a bad deal. But I guess it saves you from rolling up though, those rolls. Yeah. One of the first things Alexi and I did when we first started dating is my, that shitty apartment I had on Bleecker Street Posh. I had a giant jar that I had had for like 12 years that I had just put every coin in. And I was working on SNL. So I had, I was getting a lot of coins. But we took it to a Coinstar. Only coins. And it was like 700 bucks. Wow. When you think about it. And it was really, I mean, yeah, dumping it, it was a wonderful feeling to get. Oh, satisfying. Yeah. Very satisfying. And I didn't have to break a Mexican artifact. Oh my God. So sad. So sad. Monezuma. I could hear the soul of Monezuma. I was in South Africa. It was, you did release the soul of someone who had been captured. Exactly. So it was actually good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm free. I went to South Africa and I was at like this market and I remember, I like that the soul, the soul was Larry from sit and sleep. He was like, why did I go to Mexico? So I bought this like wooden hippo, this carved wooden hippo, because I knew my mom would love it. It was so heavy. And then I had to like have it in my luggage for like the rest of my time in South Africa. And then it was when I was living in Amstrup. So then I had to bring it back to Amstrup. And then I had to bring it back to America. And I gave it to mom for Christmas with that said posh. She still has it. Loves it. Yeah. Loves it. Still on display. Yeah. 20 years in the wooden hippo is maybe one of the best presents I got her. Yeah. Did you have to haggle? I'm not a good haggler. Yeah. Same. Same. I just, I'm like, what do you, what do you, unlike, you know what I mean? What do you want it to be? That's why I'm rolling in jars of coins. What do you want? It's actually been a benefit to me because Alexi is so like, she's such a haggler that because of my inability to do it, and it is like, I think you're either wired to do it or not. And like they can tell if you don't have real haggler eyes. Yes. You know what I mean? They're like, you're paying full for eight. You have to learn it before the age of five or you do. Yeah. But she's always like, I'll do it. Like she, she'll never send me to do any sort of, you know, transaction with anyone. Yeah. No trust. So that's why like I never have to do anything. That's why you have so few hippos. Yeah. I just have the one. Well, babe, I paid so much for the first one. I could never even afford to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you guys, did you find yourself in Los Angeles from time to time? Yeah. Frequently, frequently. We went back and forth. And then when I was 15, I auditioned for the arts high school here in LA. So we moved, we moved back when I was 16 to Manhattan Beach. Gotcha. And was that, was it hard to leave big there? Was it hard to say goodbye to friends at that age? At the time it was. I felt like, oh, I'm leaving my whole social life. But thank goodness. Thank gosh I did. Thank gosh. Because yeah, I mean, I'm, it, that, that decision put me on a path that has led to, you know, all the Zoltar wishes coming true, basically. And did the sibling, did your siblings, were they like, we're doing this because Taryn wants to go to high school? It was really hard for them. Yeah. It was really tough. And ultimately, I think they're, they're happy for it, but it made for a turbulent middle and high school experience for sure. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry babies. Have you, have you as an adult taken a trip with your parents, all your siblings? Have there been big killin' trips? We were supposed to do Norway and then the pandemic happened. Yeah. We had one, we had one planned for our parents 50th anniversary. Where, where are we going to go? Oh, we were going to send them with you to Norway. Oh, that, right, we're right. I remember now, I remember. We were going to do Lake Placid, we were going to do. Okay. With, with the crocodile? Huh, what? Oh, the, from the film? Lake Placid. Is that the, the Oliver Platt Betty White joint? It might well be. Oh, Betty White. You're right. Lake Placid, Betty White was in Lake Placid. That was kind of like before I feel like everybody appreciated Betty White was like a national treasure. I would argue it brought her back in a little like it kind of. It was a reminder. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. No, no, no big, they went to Hawaii when I was an adult and I, I think I was working and couldn't go. And we've, I've always been a little envious of that trip because it's a real, it was a real family bonding trip. And they'll be like, ah, remember Maui? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, you got, you got that in Maui, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was special. After we had that really important talk. Yeah, that was, that was beautiful. And I'm just like sitting there. Well, I was on Mad TV. Yeah, there you were. Yeah. You left UCLA. How early did you leave UCLA? After one year. I only made it one year and I loved, I loved UCLA. I was the best, one of the best years of my life. And still my closest friends are the friends I made that year. Your freshman year, get out. Yeah, yep. And did you leave because you got on Mad TV or did you leave? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And how did you as a freshman and how did that audition even come to pass? Through Keenan. Huh. Like Keenan, Keenan and I were repped by the same manager and Mad called inquiring about Keenan. They're like, would he ever consider? And my manager said, no, Keenan, Keenan's sort of fielding other offers because it was the year before he got SNL. Yeah. And they said, take a look at this kid. This kid is, this kid's full of beans. Wow. All right. Taryn, we're going to let you go because your throat is, we're going to let you rest it, but we're going to make you do the speed round. Okay, great. Yeah. Great, great. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Relaxing. What is your favorite means of transportation? Driving a car myself. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? I mean, Michael, Michael Urie said me on this podcast, so I want to return that favor. Yeah. So maybe Michael and Ryan or the Kelsey's. Yeah, that's a good one. The Kelsey's would be really fun. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My wife. Dream vacation destination. A Nile River cruise. Excellent. That's great. On a houseboat. Yeah, back to the houseboat, but I'm not captaining it. Yeah, yeah. You consider yourself being from Big Bear? Yes. Yes. If you were trying to get more families to come visit Big Bear, how would you sell it? Beautiful nature, fresh air, two hours from LA, and the Performing Arts Center is a wonderful facility to see live theater. Great. Great. I will say, I said earlier on, not worth it, but I have gone in other months, not skiing months, and it is like there's some incredible hikes around there, and it is beautiful. It's too little, too late. Yeah, great, great elevation, great elevation. Yeah, great, decent elevation. We get up to eight. Seth has our final questions. Terrin, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have. Was it worth it? It absolutely was. Yes, it was beautiful. Have you gone just once? You feel like a guy who maybe has gone multiple times. I only went once when I moved from New York to LA. We rented an RV and we drove cross-country. Amazing. And so all four of us got to experience it for the first time together, which was awesome. How did you go into the canyon or did you stay? North side. We're up north side. And we came from the north side. Yeah, it was awesome. We saw the buffalo in the roaming in the fields, and it was magical. Well, it is always so lovely to talk to you. I love you so much, buddy. I'm very excited. We obviously have a great many friends from Chicago, but I'm happy to know that no matter who wins, I will have a friend who is happy. Good people will celebrate. Good people will celebrate. I'm not for the pod, but I don't look at my phone during podcasts, but it did explode just a second ago. Mike Tomlin has resigned as the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, no. Wow. Wow. I mean, it's the way I'm so happy it ended like that. They didn't fire him. Yeah. Yeah. 19 years, never had a losing record. Incredible. Incredible. My favorite Tomlin story is when they were at the Super Bowl, and he brought all the guys into his room the night before and played Phil Collins in the air tonight. Do you know this? No. He brought the team in to his hotel room, and he dimmed the lights, and he said, I want you all to close your eyes, and I want you all to think about what we're playing for. And I want you all to listen to this and play in the air tonight. And it's so long before that drum beat happens. Oh, so long. It's so slow. I just, I can't imagine like all those 250-pound, 64 guys just. And then they talk for a long time as to whether or not it was a hoax that that kid died. Or wondering if it was a silent disco, and they could change. Yeah. He was like, let's move it. Everybody go to which side of the room. If you think that story is true. And as soon as the drums break, you just meet in the middle. Love you, buddy. Well, congrats. Love you, Taran. Love to Kobe. Love to your kids. It's great to see you, man. Thanks, buddy. Good to see you guys. Thanks, pal. Bye. Thank you. He's from Big Bear and from there. Troll to Lake Mojave. His parents pitch and dance 120 degrees. When the wind would kick up, get a La Flandre Hotel. You could go to the casino. Taran loved the arcade. Games were played. Burn through quarters as night crawler. Went overseas as a teen. First night spent all his money playing games once again. Sega World Trained his ATM. Had to eat shortbread. Nothing but shortbread. He'd do it all again. I mean, what you think was gonna happen When Taran goes to London. Metamol supervision. Only one decision. Dude is gone. Has some fun. At a stage reading. He did some screaming. You