Pretty and Pregnant Privilege: Monday, May 18th, 2026

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson-Claude and Werger Hoes. It's your favorite show, the Fast Five Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. This fucking necklace! It's the second time it broke. They're fucker! Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday! We are live and in living color with Jackson-Claude. We're live in studio together. We're back together. We've been so simpatico because I came to New York this weekend to see my cojourner and for a work obligation. We had Dear Media by night, which we'll get into because it was so much fun. And then Claudia, you know, she didn't trust me to get home on my own. I don't trust when Jackie was walking around these streets of New York. I don't know why I felt like my daughter. I'm like, do you need me to drop you off? Do you know where you're going? I forget. I know you lived there first. Not only I'm from there, which is just the craziest, most incongruous fact. I felt worried about my sister. Like, it was broad daylight, but I'm like, she's gonna get lost. She's gonna get mugged. She's gonna get jumped. She's gonna come back home with a black eye. But you survived New York City. You kind of thrived New York City. I did. You know, I had a really nice day. I feel like the day that I came, the weather was amazing. We were in Central Park. You had a little soiree. Yes, we threw like a little, little picnic. It wasn't so little. It kept getting bigger. I'm like, we'll do a little picnic next week. You know, there's like a balloon arch. A glick nick. A glam picnic. It was a Shabitnik, a Shabbat picnic. All of Rumi's friends came. Just like a little basketball themed party was so cute. And all of my friends came too. So I got to see all of my friends. I was in New York for literally 24 hours. Vlog coming. We vlogged the whole day. Really funny and fun vlog. We vlogged like Dear Media by Noche. It was just like really great. So I was able to see almost all of my friends. Very productive trip. Very productive trip. The city was looking beautiful. We crushed. The place looked great. It always does. We crushed our work obligation. We crushed our work obligation. We played mahjong. So all in all, I was like really nervous for the trip. You know, I haven't traveled in a while. I don't travel. I'm not a traveler. And like you walking around a major city by yourself, like it's worrisome. Three bucks, two bags, one jumping, one, one mugging. One jacks. Three bucks, two bags, one jacks. But you only brought one bag, which I was really impressed with. It was like a tiny little suitcase. And it was a short trip. But it was a great success. And now I'm back. Claudia scored in me home. Thank you so much. We all flew home together, which was so nice. I miss my sister. And it's so great to be here. The place looks great. It always does. And you know what? Like traveling, not traveling. Like, because I don't want to go down that road. But like moving places. We'll make you love your place. No, no, no. It's just like, it's fun for us. Like going there, coming here. Yeah, having multiple places. Coming here, going there. We love our pen pal energy, but we love our in studio energy. So it's just like fun to switch it up. It's fun to switch it up. And you know what? As a great America for everyone said, you got to kick it up. And I do feel like we have kicked it up. I also did what I said I was going to do and I watched Real Housewives of Rhode Island. What episode are you up to? I'm in the middle of the last episode. Oh my God, you're ahead of me. What episode is that? I feel like I'm on six. Oh, I'm in Newport. I'm in Newport too. They just fought in the bedroom. Mid-season trailer. Did you see the mid-season trailer? Oh yeah. Oh, my all cut up. No, and now there's one episode that I haven't really watched. Oh, me either. What do you think? Do you love it? So I understand like, you know, the woman, the woman being cheated on in real time, like is, is major for television. I wouldn't say that like I love it, but I'm into it and like I want to keep watching it. And yeah, it's not like the worst. I thought it was going to be like seriously the worst piece of garbage based on the trailer that came out. Agreed. I thought it was going to be like the end of housewives. Like we've lost the plot here. Yeah. And the thing is I do think it marks a shift in housewives because even though they've slipped in recent years, it's always been this like affluent group of women. And really this is not an affluent group. Not super. Liz has a nice house and that's it. They're all just regular women. And they do well, but I think like the group and the history is very good. And of course we have like the, the young, the youths. The Rosie and the Kelsey. Rosie, Kelsey, actually I. Are you team Rosie or Kelsey? Kelsey. No, I'm team Rosie. Kelsey, first of all. Kelsey is such a jealous, I'm sorry. I know I'm about to use this word and it's not nice. Don't say, don't use that word. She's not that terrible. No, I'm not using that word. Starts with the same letter. She's literally the definition of a concubine. Like seriously get a job. I hate her. She's just really pretty. Like once you get past that, you're like, wait, you're mean. You're literally a bully. You literally don't have a house. First of all, second of all, how do you know that she's lying? You need to bring proof. No, also when she said that, when Rosie said that, that like, I have a house, I have a husband and I have a job and you don't like, yeah, no, she's right for that. In general though, like when it comes to like confessionals or friendship. Personality. Personality. I really like Kelsey. She is also so easy on the eyes. Not that any of the women are. She's pretty privileged, but she's so pretty. No, you wouldn't be saying that that scene in the dining room. Everyone is pretty. No, she's prettier than everyone. She's really nice to watch. I know. I want to encourage that. She gets a little bit of. No, not with me. Sorry. That scene at the dinner. Someone's really wealthy. You want to watch even if they're not the most interesting. Like that gives them a little something. That scene at the dinner when she was like, that's the first genuine thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth. The definition of a backhand compliment and being like everything you say is a lie. And like that was nice. And she was like, it's mad that Rosie's not like so grateful for like the shitty compliment. Rosie lost me. Like I became like a Rosie op. So it's like, I didn't care. I was a Rosie op when she first entered. And she was on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on the sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on sidewalk on maybe if Kelsey was fighting with someone else, I wouldn't, I would maybe, and I agree with you, like I'm not loving the fight, but I already rode off Rosie in that moment, like when Alicia did, when Alicia saw her, she's like, you're being weird and I see you, and I see it in your eyes, I'm like, I see it, I see it in her eyes, like, so desperate to be on the show and like make shit happen, even though things are happening, Rosie, you don't have to try so hard. Like to run to one person, talk shit, run to the next, I imagine when all the women watch this, they're gonna be like, the fuck were you doing? Like starting shit and then telling someone else what someone else said. I see it so differently. First of all, I think that on the railroad, I think her and Ashley are like actual friends, so if like the head honcho was saying this about you, I actually think that Ashley wasn't even mad, she was like, you know, I get this a lot because I'm really quiet, some people think I'm being mean, but I'm just shy, I'm not a bitch. I actually think that was like helpful for her friend because Ashley's not in the mix, and like Rosie's trying to bring her for her and her friend to level up with the older women, and I'm sorry, I loved when she clocked Alicia, Alicia's so fucking two-faced, and Alicia like couldn't handle, anyone who just like blows up when they're being called out for stuff, like you're so wrong, she had no, she was talking shit about Liz on the beach. She did say everybody has to walk on eggshells around Liz, sorry, she got motherfucking called out for being a snake. Oh, I didn't think she was a snake. I felt like she was saying like, yeah, like Liz is head bitch in charge. That's not what she said. We walk on eggshells around, like she's a little scary, and I feel like everything that she said, and the tone in which she said it, she would have said to Liz, I don't think like anything that what she said was bad, but the way that Rosie framed it when she brought it up in front of the group was snake-like. I think she's doing her job, yeah, she's like the least eligible to be on this show, she's like young and has a house that's not finished. 1500s or 3000s. She doesn't have like an interesting background like Kelsey does. So yeah, she's earning her keep here, and in the beginning I was like, who the fuck is this? Like seriously, she looks like a child wearing her toddler's interior, but she's really grown on me, and when she was like sick at the house and everyone was being so mean to her, like trying to convince her at that dinner that she should be grateful for the comment that Kelsey gave her, I'm sorry, that was Joe, like a big L on Jo Ellen's part, and I love Jo Ellen. She's one of my faves. I like Jo Ellen's too. I'm sorry, like I felt bad for her, and now I stand Rosie, sorry, and someone's got to do the work, and you know all the things that have come out about Kelsey. No. So her and that guy broke up two years ago, and he let her use that, they're still friends, he let her use the house, everyone knows in her friends and family, like her real friends and family, that he let her use the house to launch her career and having this interesting, because otherwise, seriously, what, let's say we met her two years post break up, like why would she be on the show? Okay. Yeah, so she's just sort of lying about everything, and she's accusing Rosie about lying. So that's Rosie Truthers. Is that everything that's come out? I think there was more stuff about, Rosie was on entertainment tonight, I was watching it on the airplane yesterday, what else did she say? I don't know, she's obviously loving this. I don't think it's like, I don't need your life story to be like, everyone fibs a little, like I'm watching what I'm watching. Pretty privilege, pretty privilege for me, Al. For sure, but also I like her just like, I like her way of being. I can't believe we're so off. We're so, except I do like Jo Ellen. Although I do think my opinion's the unpopular one, I think everybody like loves Kelsey and thinks Rosie's the only one. Oh really? I think. Oh, I have no idea. I hadn't gone onto Twitter yet, because I'm not like fully caught up. My thoughts on Ashley are a little bit different from yours, because I agree that like, while she's not a part of the group, I actually like have sort of like liked her. It's just fun to like see her in this environment. But yeah, I agree she needs to get like a little more involved. And she does feel like, I know she said she's shy and everything, she's a bitch, which I couldn't relate to that sentiment more, that's literally my life story, like the title of my memoirs. Everyone thinks I'm a bitch, but I'm actually just shy. However, I do feel like there's like an air of snobbery about her, like where I feel like in the confessionals and everything, it seems like she's sort of like looking down on everything. On Rhode Island. And everyone, and she's like not really jumping in, not only because of shyness, but also just because, even in the mid-season trailer, where she's like, can we all just stop yelling for one second? Girl, go on a different show. You cry, they yell. Yeah. It's whatever. But I'm actually, and I also feel like her life, the position that she's in in her life right now is very relatable. And I'm really enjoying watching it, because it's like the Valley and all that. Secret lives. Yeah, of like, you know, young motherhood and the stresses. And I feel like she's like sharing a lot. But I also have so much, I feel like she's such an amazing wife. She loves her husband so much. A little too much. No, I know, but like, and she was always that girl, like even for Chris souls, like she would have done anything for him. She's a lover. She's a lover. And she loved Jared so much, we all saw it. And it's interesting to see how those two people then grow up. And have a life. And she's so supportive and so patient and so loving. And just so worried about her husband's happiness. It's really admirable to watch her be so patient when I think a different woman would not be. Agreed, agreed. But it's simply hard to watch at times. Yeah, no, but it's really admirable, I will say, like how loving she is. But why don't we ever see their house? Why haven't we seen their house? We only see the coffee shop for their season. I think we saw their house once, no? Oh, no. And they were both home with the kids? When? I don't remember, but I'm like picturing their living room. Only because that's where she's like her confessionals are. Right, right, right. But like, I feel like we don't like actually see a lot of her home life. And even when she talks a little bit about the influencing or like the cruise that she went on, like I want to see more of it. Kelsey being with like the Instagram hair to Rosie, like that was really painful. Yeah. And it's like she literally hired you. Like what more could you want in terms of supporting someone's business? Yeah, no, I agree. Like that was nothing. It's thin. It's thin. But I understand why like Rosie automatically rubs Kelsey the wrong way and why she's just like looking for an issue with her. Yeah, of course. Like because I understand that. Yeah, of course. I have that with people in my own life as well. Right. But it's like it's more of a reflection on me than it is on them. Like would you rather go to lunch with Kelsey or Rosie? Right now Rosie, like. Right now Rosie for you. But we'll see where the season shakes out. No, I love Kelsey and she looks like Gal Gadot. She's so beautiful. And she's getting more beautiful. I feel like in the early episodes, like she just looks like a girl. But like every scene like every angle that they film her at, you know, she's like, it's just she's a pleasure to watch. The other thing that they had said about Kelsey was that her and Bill, like the other guy had been dating for two years. I love it. Like when they literally broke up. So she's just telling the story of her life from two years ago. OK. That's just a lie. Pretty privilege. Pretty privilege. I just like don't care that much because it's her life, like in the house. Circumstances. Housekeeper. That's not why I like her. So it's like, oh, that is why she got on the show. Like, but if you told me she had a face transplant. Right. Oh, if the pretty wasn't authentic, you would be upset. No, actually, I wouldn't. I would just say who's your doctor. Right. Right. That's what I would say. And Rue La La, like she makes me so sad. Did you? We did do. What was the Lula Roe? The leggings. When they were at polo, he left and comes back without his ring. Like that was one of actually the craziest things. He said his parent was in the hospital. Just so we could go see his mistress. And then she's at home being like he went to the hospital. Why would he have to drop you at home? Why couldn't you all go to the hospital together? I don't know. And so what's the reason that he won't just leave her? Like because she makes some money? Oh, maybe she makes some money. Or like, I don't know, I get the vibe that from a lot of these people, like the way they talk about marriages, they're like kind of old school. It's like, you just have to make it work. Like I want to stay. No, why he won't leave her? No, because it's like, their ethos is like, we make the marriages work, but like, you know, we have issues. Yeah. So he wants to stay married and also have a girlfriend. And that's like the ideal for him. Do you think that Liz slept with Dino? Like, do you think that they had an affair? I don't know and I don't care. Oh, OK. You know? And the way they keep talking about things, and they allude to a lot of the rumors and stuff, it's like a lot of context for us is missing. It needs to be provided. No, no, and they're not providing. They're just not. So I don't care. I don't care about the ongoing. And Liz and Dino down by the seawall, like I don't care. Yeah. You know? And it seems like there has to be an understanding that everyone here, oh, Joellen and the sister and husband. Joellen and the sister. And also somebody help me. Watch. What did Joellen look like? Like it's bothering me. Oh, I was getting close. Ben said it too. He was like, wait, she doesn't say someone. I was getting close to it. I can't tell if it's someone in my personal life or somebody like famous. I was getting close to the identification, but I didn't get there yet. I will let you know. It's someone, right? Also, but that's where I got with Kelsey and Gal Godot. Now you will see it. OK. I don't really see it, but I'll look for it now. You'll see it. It's like in her being, you know? Yeah. Yeah. In her being. In her being of being gorgeous. So what nights is it on? Like I need to add it to my weekly schedule on Sunday. Oh, so it's on Sunday. Oh, great. So now we're two episodes behind. Great. OK, we'll catch up this week. Just one. OK. OK. We'll catch up this week. Also, major news in the Licks vs. Lex. I don't have my whiteboard, but if I did, like, I'm throwing it out. Yeah, throw it out to the door. Because obviously we need to talk about it every day. Yeah. The lead story today. Oh, and then also we just want to talk about Dear Media by Night because we had such a fab time. By Noche. Yeah, they did like a live. I don't know what to call it. It was like almost like a festival where they had like a lineup of some of their most popular podcasts. So it was us, of course. Taylor Strecker was a host of the evening. The good guys did a show. They brought out Joey Kamaster. Amanda Hirsch. Nutskete Benafat came. She brought out Amy Schumer, which was such a slag. We got to the downstairs dressing rooms. It was at Webster Hall. And all the talent had dressing rooms with their names on the door. And it said Amanda Hirsch, Amy Schumer. And I was like, first of all, I didn't know that everybody was bringing guests. Like we don't do guests, but we never would have brought one. But I just didn't know that that was like, I guess that's what people do on live shows. Yeah, yeah. So when Ben told me he was bringing in a guest, I'm like, that's weird. But I guess it wasn't. We were the weird ones. We were the weird ones. Amy Schumer came down to the dressing room and was like swirling it up with everyone. Like she was so regular. She looked so pretty. And she came up to us and she was like, I want to meet you guys. I'm such a fan of the toast. Yeah. Yeah. And then she did her segment and Slade. And then Ben and Josh went and Slade. And then Jackson Turd went and obviously Slade. Jackson Turd came out of live show retirement. I know. Did it make you want to do more? Yes, for sure. I like it's everything around it. That's really hard, you know, like the traveling or like missing that time or whatever. But like being on stage with the swirlies, like genuinely is electric. Yeah, it was it's addicting. Yeah. So we will at some point do more. It was nice to come out for one night only, just like pop in, pop out. But it's definitely like in our future, once we can like move freely, move freely. We're not in a free movement time in our lives. No. You know, yeah. It was great. Yeah. So it was fun to just like one night be a rock star. And they also like threw together like such a nice event that like everybody there, like they got PR bags to go home with, like from all the brand sponsors. It was just like it was kind of like really well put together. There was like custom cocktail napkins, you know? Yeah. They said, what are you nuts? What are you nuts? And they had like, you know, lots of sponsored activations like everybody was getting true for when cloud popcorn for free. I love it. I ate so much true for when I was there. Like it was just it was all over the dressing rooms. Yeah. I've never seen those individual size. Like you get one piece of fruit. Yeah. Pretty smart. One frio for true. For a true, true, true, true. Do I love that? So today's story is like, we kind of got to get into them because it's going to be hard not to. And I left my iPad in New York. So if you're wondering why I look like Dan rather, it's because I am the Dan rather of my generation. And we're going analog today with the sponsors. 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Head over to smartmouth.com and use code toast to grab yours and experience 24 hour fresh breath for yourself. Thank you, fresh. My pleasure. Fresh shirt. Fresh shirt. OK, our first story. Throw out the whiteboard because Alex Cooper is pregnant. She shared yesterday on Instagram. These she is expecting her first baby with her husband, Matt Kaplan. So she posted a photo of the two of them loved up and bump in and said our family. Now, turns out they probably are sleeping in separate bedrooms. Maybe like the smell of him has started to bother her. Maybe she needs more room or maybe the pregnancy pillow just sort of only left room for one. So good to know that those rumors were true. Or no, but it's funny because the rumors were that like her and her husband like are rocky and they're splitting up and those articles were coming out for weeks and it's like, no, you couldn't have been more wrong because they're pregnant. Yeah. Now, I need people to like have normal reactions to this. And I've seen some really like genuinely upsetting things. First of all, people saying, you know, they're probably having a baby to fix their marriage like seriously stop now. When someone gets pregnant, like they are off limits. I'm sorry, they are. And I actually feel really bad that she was dealing with this in her first trimester. You know, I had a little bit of a scandal during one of my pregnancies. One of my, I've only had one during my one and only pregnancy. And let me tell you, it was really hard. Like it messes with your mental health and like I feel bad for her. So what scandal did you have? Well, sorry, we, yeah. And we didn't even do anything. I was getting canceled and I literally was just like lying in bed. It was insane. So I will tell you, it's very hard on your health. So I feel bad for her. Yeah. Another reason why they went to Hawaii. Yeah, of course. Away from it all. Of course. Another reaction, like again, I need people to be normal is like, well, Alex Earl obviously knew that she was pregnant. So she withheld, you know, in, in getting herself involved in making it worse for Alex Cooper. And it's like, okay, like she obviously didn't know that she didn't know she was pregnant. I don't think that she did. Um, no, but also like Alex Cooper did open the ring while she was pregnant. But she was also probably like just feeling like, you know, you also just get like impatient and also like pregnancy and having babies like makes you real, like makes you tough and like makes you just be like, nothing matters. Like only a crazy hormonal pregnant woman would start this drama. Honestly. Yeah. But also like sometimes when you're like younger and scared, you just like shy away from things, but like the confidence that comes with like pregnancy and being a mother, you're like, say it. Yeah. Let's fight. Yeah. Of course. I want to say something and I know you don't want me to say it, but I do want to say like, and it's just like the most annoying thing you can say, but like, I did have a feeling she might be pregnant. And if you watch a video, um, I only saw the trailer, her episode with Kevin Hart, like the roots. That's why I'm so glad I don't dye my hair. Like you can't dye your hair in the first trimester or the whole pregnancy. Some people don't do it whole pregnancy, but definitely not first trimester, but it opens up. So your roots will give you away. I guess so. I think she thought like the slick back bone, you would help. It changes up her hair. Really? I actually feel like it's the one thing she doesn't change. No, she's like had different shades of blonde. Like some people grow their roots out. Some people like are transitioned to brunette. It could be, um, it could be a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Well, the roots are dead giveaway for the blonde Swirlies. So thankfully we don't have that problem. Yeah. Um, I think this is nice. Like, yeah, it also, it is really crazy because I feel like it's so like against her ethos, you know, like in Congress with like, I don't know. Messaging. Her messaging. I don't want to say her because I don't know her. And I feel like there's a complete difference between like what she puts out in the world and who she actually is. Because a lot of the content that she's become famous for, I don't know what she says on every single episode, but a lot of like the ethos is like, you know, women, we don't need a man. Dump him. Well, she's like getting married and having baby. She's very traditional. Yeah. Very odd. Yes. She actually is very traditional. One. Yes. A lot of her messaging like encourages fellow woman, fellow, like be independent. Right. Men stink. Right. Break up with your boyfriend. And I think she'll also recently did an episode about like how okay it is to like, you know, push kids down the line. Yeah. Kind of recent. So I think this is wonderful. I was shocked. Yeah, me too. Yeah. And I like being shocked. Yeah, me too. But I also saw a video today that was like, she's just like won the battle because I don't think at this point, not that Alex Earl was like, this is changing anything for Alex Earl's plan, but like now it's kind of case closed. You're not going to go after a pregnant woman. Absolutely. No, it's definitely, it definitely changes the landscape of the fight. It also makes me want to start fights like when I'm pregnant because then no one's going to come after a pregnant woman. Right. Absolutely. I need to call Ben. We should always have like one of us. And I don't know if everybody agrees with this, but in terms of like internet like drama, like I do feel like pregnant people are off limits. I really do. Yeah. Once it's once I'm pregnant, but nobody knew. Right. So I didn't ever like, I should like, so it shouldn't come out on the show. On the show. I actually do wonder if this changes Alex Earl's plans at all. Like maybe she was like planning on going in and it's like by then the show, she'll be like nine months pregnant. That's even worse. Like, yeah, I don't know. I really don't know. I'm curious. Um, uh, I feel like it doesn't change her plans. Okay. Because I, she does still need to respond like she has her own brand to worry about. And if she like has, if she just leaves this open ended forever, like that's not good. Um, especially if she has some big story to tell. Yeah. And she didn't start it. So I guess like pregnant women then just get licensed to start stuff. Yeah. Which is also not fair. Yeah. Which is and not historically true, but it is funny because when we saw the video, one of our takes on it was like how out of character this was. And like, she never, you know, sort of, it's the confidence of a new mama. It's not only that it's like the hormones too. Like it really will make you feel you're fed up. Yeah. You're fed up. So it makes it like it also sort of like, it's also kind of reductive to just be like, she's a spiraling hormonal woman. That's like when people are like, she's on her period, but she probably was on her period. Like, no, no, you're so right. It's so reductive, not me being reductive. No, but it's not about the hormones for me. It's about the fact that like when just so many bigger things are happening, like when your life is changing and you're pregnant and you become a mother, it just like puts things in a different perspective and you're sort of like fearless. How many weeks along do you think she is? I think she's just out of the first trimester because she also shared like on her Instagram yesterday, like so happy I can finally like, I don't have to hide this belly anymore. So I feel like she was like waiting for like the first minute she could post. Yeah. That's just my take. Oh, yeah. And maybe she was going to post it like a little while ago, but she like didn't think. I feel like maybe she's like 20 weeks. Yeah. Just because like her announcement maybe got pushed back a little bit. Perhaps. But she would have been the one to push it back as she posted the video. Right. I do. Yeah. But she didn't know was going to turn into like this whole vanity fair expose. Yeah. I also am curious like what this means for her content and her like branding because she's like made a very intentional choice. Like I want to say like five or six years ago to be very Gen Z. Like she's, you know, Gen Z language, Gen Z influencers, Gen Z content. Every like PR press article is like, you know, unwell. The voice of Gen Z network. Like that's they've led with Gen Z. Right. They do like Gen Z programming. So is she going to become like millennial mama making rails? Making I'm so curious. Like, will the reels do the reels begin now? I don't know. I actually do think she's low key been like turning millennial with all this reality content. Yeah. It's millennial women who love reality TV. And I don't think like Gen Z, like. I don't think like Gen Z like being spoken to like by a not Gen Z person. No, no. So maybe like there was a brand shift and she was like, oh, maybe I can't have a baby. Yeah. Also, I'm cracking up because my agent texted me this morning being like, do you actually want to go on podsters? Yes, she does. Yes, she does. You should. I only if they film in South Florida. Only if they film in South Florida. And you don't have to live at the house. Like you can go home at night. Yeah, of course. Of course. I don't know if it's going to be podsters. So like now like you're itching to do. I'm not itching. I'm curious about like one of these sorts of programs. Like it would be so funny. What's the one that I can never remember the name? Special forces. Oh my God. You actually would win though. You have insane mental fortitude. Like people don't know that about you. Like how tough you are up here. The physical stuff like would be hard for you. But once I get into a physical shape, I am an athlete. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But where you really like what your strength over anyone else is up here. It's both. It's mental and physical. I love that for you. Oh my God. No, I couldn't go. And then I could like be what you did at Massinger. Like it's fun to watch someone else do the hard thing. You know, and like. No, I don't think special forces. I think that's again, like to involve. Yeah. But something like very light. Mm hmm. Where it's like a bunch of like internet personnel. Could you imagine me and them? I know. And then it's like sort of like a land fought me land. Landline of like people we've talked about. Yeah. Oh, and then I'll obviously be in the drama because they'll be like you said this about the episode. I'm just going to be like, yeah, I did. Let's talk about it. I can't be held responsible for anything I say when I'm creating art. Yeah. But I think I would make like friends to last a lifetime. I'm very friendly. You know? Yeah. Like I always cultivate like a great group of friends. I would just hope that you would stay on long enough for people to really get to know you. Because like we were saying before, like you come off. When people don't know you, they really think you're mean. Like you just have that sort of like cold face. Mm hmm. And so I would say I would hope that you would stay on for like the first three, four, five episodes so that everybody can get to know you. Like you're the nerd who everybody realizes he takes off his glasses and he's handsome. Yeah. Not only like my fellow cast members, but also the audience. Of course. You know, I think I would have a real arc with the audience. Oh, I've chills just thinking about the show. Maybe we should just produce it ourselves. Yeah, we should just to show everyone like my wild side. You'd be like, be Bobby Flay, but you're the Bobby Flay. Yeah. You just go up against challenges on other internet stars. No, we're like, we have to build like the house environment of a show that I could go on, you know? Yeah. So everybody brings their kids to the daycare. I actually think it could be pot stars if it films in like say Utah. Uh huh. And I can go with my family. Yeah. And I can sleep with my family. And then go and stir the pot. Jackie on pot stir is when? I think it's like a Thanksgiving center show. I know I'll come to I want to be on the show, but we can like all stay in Utah for the. We could do live shows. Pay the bills with live shows. I love that. I love it. I need more information on pot. You want to text your agent? Yes. Um, what did I say? I think maybe just like a bunch of L.O.L.s. I don't know like nothing actually. I think I said only if they're filming in South Florida, L.O.L. Or Utah. Or if it's in Utah. I get the dates. Get the dates. Even though the last one was in Utah. Well, she obviously likes Utah. And it can't be a prerequisite to like you sleeping in the house. Like no, no, no. Or I could do like Jackson Hole, you know, some more mountains. Yeah. Some more beautiful. Aspen. Montana. Genovo. Genovia. Fine. I'll go to Corsival. Fine. We'll do it. We'll do it. Twist. Twist mountains. So funny. So funny. Seriously, crazy plot twist in this whole saga that she's pregnant. Like seriously, Mazel Tov. I really hope that like she'd let it get to her. I do feel like she's also very tough. Like in order to operate at the level that she's at. I know everybody like loves to like make their think pieces on TikTok, but like sorry to get to the level that she's at. Like you have to be a different kind of beast. And she definitely is. Like she has what it takes. Because there are a lot of podcasts who even interview high level people and they're not like operating at the level that she is. So I do think it takes like a very special type of person. And hopefully that's the same type of person who can just like stay sound of mind and at peace in a first trimester cancellation. Also for the most part, if she turned off her phone. It goes away. It goes away. Except it was like on the news. So it was. It was. So I'm to turn off the local news too. And this big alleged hit piece, which I imagine like her and her team and her lawyers are like involved in. This is bad for Vanity Fair because like they should have gotten it in before this. Because now you just look like an asshole. It's a destabilizer. Like it's a neutralizer. This pregnancy. Especially if the article like comes after their marriage a little bit. Like. And also tries to make the case that like there's trouble in paradise. I think that the article based on what I've heard is really about him. Yeah. Not her. Which isn't a good look for like everyone's feminist queen that like her husband's over here like destroying her empire and like stealing her money. But they haven't said anything yet. So I'm just making stuff up. Again. And I just think that like the gap between like who she act the life she actually lives and the show. It is why. I feel like like really nobody knows her. I don't know her like who is literally who in the world is Alan Center Cooper. Mm hmm. It's kind of a sleigh. It's kind of it's kind of nice. She has a shell and bite for sure. Well I don't know about like recently. But like I don't know recently. She has a shell and bite but like it is nice to not to not have the whole world know all your business. Yeah. Agreed. And if you're able to like cultivate an audience and be a successful. That's like her own living. And doing content while sharing nothing. Nobody knows nothing about you. It's a sleigh. I agree. You have you have privacy and like peace. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. OK. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. It's more few news. Dina Manzo's daughter is fighting with Bethany Frankel. This is so crazy. Calling her a weirdo for failing to credit her shoe business. So Dina Manzo's daughter. I'm gonna say I saw the video and I didn't know it was Dina Manzo's daughter. I saw the video knowing like I saw it with the context of Dina Manzo's daughter. I just want to say it doesn't really change anything. The fact that she's her daughter. Yeah. I mean it's just like yeah. It doesn't change that much but it's like I don't know. I guess it's just your main. Yeah. For the story. Dina Manzo's daughter from the Real Housewives of New Jersey has a shoe company. It's called New Shoes. She posted a video calling Bethany Frankel a weirdo. Citing the fact that she sent Bethany Frankel some of her shoes a while ago. She sent a screenshot of the message and she was like really like you could see like very eager like hey can I send you shoes and like following up a million times and Bethany did accept the shoes. Bethany accepted the shoes then this week doing press resource illustrated Bethany wore a very cute outfit made a very cute video to like a Jesse J song and she's wearing the shoes and I guess the video like did really well for Bethany and people asked like where are the shoes from and Bethany posted a screenshot of the shoes and said here's where you can find a similar pair with a link. So Dina Manzo's daughter like made a video being like Bethany Frankel is a weirdo not only like to be sent her shoes and she wears them and she loves them but she posted a link an affiliate link so she's making money off the link to a dupe of the shoe. So someone who's like essentially making like knocking off her brand so. Because the shoes were sold out. Well so she makes this video like talking like a lot of shit about her and how she's like a bad person because she linked the dupe shoes and I was like well damn. Well like Bethany. That is a weird thing to do. Bethany had also worn the shoes a year ago before this and I guess like didn't tag but didn't do like an outfit reveal and she just wore them and didn't tag which like is really not a crime you send someone shoes and like you have to sort of when you're doing gifting that you have to make peace with the fact that like you're giving something for free and if they get it and they post it that's great but if not you can't you can't go into it having such high expectations. Shoes and not tag is not a big deal at all. The damning thing was that she had posted like an affiliate link to a dupe of the shoe. So I was like oh that's like very weird. What does Bethany have to say about this. So Bethany comes on and makes a video just being like well damn you played yourself because the shoes were sold out. My audience doesn't like when I clicked to something that they can't buy so I posted a similar pair and I had posted made a video it's in my drafts of my outfit of the day with all the details and if you had just waited I would have posted that video and you would have gotten a boom but instead you played the short game and you've pissed me off and you've missed out on what could have been. I was like well damn and she eventually did post the video that she had made that day so like there was no. It was real. She literally took off the shoe to read the name of the brand and shared it with her audience of what the shoes were and now of course there's beef between the two. No and the internet like loves to hate Bethany and the internet loves like a loser victim. So this girl who got like her business to own and like. She also really opened her shoes now for pre-order like now everyone's like blowing up her business so like this is this is like internet like you make yourself a victim and like everybody loves you when actually like yeah Bethany's explanation of it like made a lot of sense. What you wanted to do links sold out shoes. Right and if you just had waited like she she did kind of slight because she had the video now you someone can say like she put the clothes back on and it was so clearly the same stoop where she made the Jesse J video. Yes for sure. And yeah she's not going to link that she could have said these are new shoes but here is a similar pair but that's like such a minor detail. This is also dup culture like the internet dup like pipeline is insane people love dupes when she goes at the end that she was like you know that she would do this to like a small business a woman owned business like shut up right. She could do it if it was a man on the correct. Could you do it better. You know in the business then it's OK. Yeah like irrelevant. You agreed. So honestly I was actually like ready to be like oh Bethany's going to have to apologize like this is so awkward. And then I saw Bethany's videos like yeah yeah. And she like Bethany was coming at it like giving you know business advice to a girl who seriously did not want to hear it but basically being like yeah you shut yourself in the foot by like making this whole big spectacle. But you know what in the end of the day while Bethany's business sense is like very OG business like internet drama people love to side they love to hate Bethany. They love to side with like a small female business owner who so she's I'm sure raking it and now she put the shoes have been sold out so like there was nothing to sell. But now they're up for pre-order and everyone's you know to stick it to Bethany. Great. Yeah great. Stick it to Bethany I'm going to spend a couple hundred dollars on shoes. Right. Also that's just like a moment you know like to have a viral moment with your product is really amazing but that doesn't that's not a brand. It does seem like I didn't see her other shoes but those shoes are really cute. So yes I think if she has like a great business this could be like a great beginning of her business but it's not like you know this it will be a great moment but there you have to build on that momentum. Yeah. Yeah it was a crazy story and when I found out it was Dean Amanzo's daughter I didn't recognize her name is Lexie right. I mean I remember from the early season she looked so different I had no idea it came up on my I saw this whole thing happen naturally it came up on my for you page she opens her video. Bethany Frankel is a weirdo and I was like oh I wonder why I'm sad and I had no idea that it was her. And also I feel like in business even if Bethany I've never posted the second video in business like these are like shitty things that happen sometimes along the way that you're like well damn that didn't go our way and damn we got a little bit screwed here and there. Now with like the internet you can blow up every slight and like make a moment of it but like these things happen. Not only that but nothing happened like look when you when you are a brand selling sending clothing to a celebrity what is your biggest hope that they wear them. She's literally at the biggest event of the weekend besides their media finite she got sports illustrated she's being paparazzi hold up the picture literally wearing your shoes what more could you want and you told us now this is the second time she's worn them. So she did exactly what you wanted her to wear them you also wanted her to post them but like it's honestly giving Rosie and Kelsey the obsession with posting. No I get it. No it's like a small brand when you send somebody gifting like your hope and dream and wish upon a star is that they blow it up and post a million things but you have to be okay with you voluntarily asking us this happens all the time I'm always saying like I sent this influencer and it's like you're begging someone to send them product they let you send sometimes they'll blow it up wear it all the time they love it so much sometimes they don't like it and never wear it and sometimes it's something like this where like they wear and they don't blow it up in the way that you wanted them to but like the expectation that you're just sending product to somebody who would probably get paid by a shoe brand a hundred thousand dollars for a TikTok or two like she wore them she wore them to a major event what more do you want. Yeah I guess like the small slight was posting the dupe right the dupe culture like we can get into dupe culture within affiliate link but that was only because they were sold out right so what would you have liked her to post just like tagging that they were but she made the video saying that they were new she hadn't posted it yet. Yeah so I think all in all yeah she'll have a great moment I'm sure she has no regrets about what she did but big picture I don't think this was the move. No and I don't think Bethany's now gonna be like working with a lot of small businesses like with TikTok followings. Yeah no I mean I don't know I think everyone makes a video about something like everyone's trying to like make their moment on someone else's thing like yeah but at the end of the day like we're still talking about Bethany so thanks. We are always talking about Bethany. Yeah everything she does she can't wear a pair of shoes and post a link. Correct she looked great. Yeah she did look great. Okay next story are you ready? Double date news Jacob Elordian Kendall Jenner. Triple date I heard Justin and Hailey were there. With Kylie and Timothy and allegedly Justin and Hailey. That's what Dumoximo said. Okay well that makes it important. But they weren't in the car I guess like Kylie and Kendall maybe are going to like Hidden Hills or like family owned car yeah. Well Evie was just the four of them. Obsessed we were just talking about like do you think that Jacob Elordian and Timothy Jalamé like like the potential brother-in-law or do they beef with one another because they probably like kill each other for roles. I think they're different enough and again I think like Timothy is overly confident in his craft. Jacob definitely like works on it in the mirror with mantras. Yeah I mean like hi Timothy nice to meet you. Hi Timothy how was your tag? I'm really happy for you Timothy. Timothy you look great in orange. Timothy I loved you and Marisa Supreme. But I think Timothy can like you know be friends with him and I think this is cute and I also I just want to say I really like Kendall and Jacob Elordie like yeah. I mean it's like dating your twin brother but yeah. They went to Hawaii so like they're actually dating and I would love to see Kenny you know. Settle down yeah. I just don't get the vibe that like Jacob's in his settling down era even though every time I watch an interview with his he's like extremely well adjusted. He like is not a fame like whore he brings his mom everywhere like I get the vibe. Love his baseball and his friends and his mom yeah. I just get the vibe that he's like ready to settle down even though nothing he does gives me that. And I don't know she is like I know she's not like made any sort of like proclamation that like she feels differently right about life. Well cute double date. Super cute. Speaking of like people who have dated Kendall Jenner can we talk about Harry Styles really quickly. Sure. I don't know if you saw over the weekend because it I feel like it largely happened on TikTok. It was opening night of his. Liz Woods is keeping me abreast. Oh big of his opening night of his weekend opening weekend of his tour. Which I guess like up until recently has been really heavily criticized for its pricing. By ticket master or by resale. I don't know. I can't get into it. Because like by the fans the fans are upset. But like is Harry actually making the money to like deal or swift. What's dynamic pricing which people hate. He's putting this huge arena's and so there was a lot of expectations were high because if you're going to charge that must and I feel like with the Ares tour like every person who said that they had to like sell you know take their kid out of college for a semester just to pay for tickets. Didn't regret it. Like after the show they were like you know what we got a four hour show. I feel good about there really wasn't a lot of backlash and she did everything she could to keep the prices down but like with scalpers and she didn't do dynamic pricing. So the expectations were high for Harry and opening weekend was just like kind of a flop. According to people who were there like I didn't go and I didn't watch any of the footage but the criticism I'm seeing for people who were there was like first of all it was completely bright in the stadium which was just like a weird vibe. This stage is the biggest thing you've ever seen. He doesn't really sing a lot of his like big notes. He's like not singing well. He has the wired microphone running around this like big stage. The criticisms were there and I just feel like nobody kind of wants to hear it but we have been talking for you know quite a few weeks and months that like this most recent drop of his. And we do always compare it to like the other pop girlies and I'm not like glad he's getting criticism but like if this was a female who like was charging thousands of tickets and like gave a very mid performance where like they're not even singing the notes to their own songs like we would all be talking about it. So we have to talk about it. It's equality. Yeah it's it's quality like and I think that the Ares Tours are really good comparison because he's playing really huge venues. It's not really delivering. Interesting. It's been an interesting weekend for Harry Styles. I saw a couple of unfortunate clips that like I don't want to like judge the whole show. I know because there used to be like clips of that people would post of Taylor being like this is your queen but it's her dancing. And also like people would post used to post like it's just about the context. They used to post clips of Harry Styles just standing there and be like oh my god this is amazing. Here he is again standing there and it's no longer amazing. So I'm not like I you don't want to just take take a snapshot. But I guess yeah the discourse isn't super positive but he did just have a baby and he's in his new mama era so I think he didn't have a baby. So I think he's doing what he can. That's what we would say about a woman. No. Like what's his excuse he's engaged. He's in his new mama era. But maybe he's stressed from the wedding planning. No I don't know what his excuse is why he would have lost his voice. Yeah like not even singing that's the weird part. Like a lot of times you can criticize whatever you don't like the outfits but like if they sing. And like why doesn't why does he keep his shirt on you know like why does that would be an easy fix. Just take your shirt off. Yeah or your pants like seriously. Everyone would be really happy. Wasn't he always shirtless before. I think like his shtick is just like a little over. You know like always with the male dancers and sexy male and it's like well all you've ever done is take like the most beautiful women in the world. So like not to be not to be woke but like it's given queer baiting. Yeah and so I feel like a lot of his shtick is also it's like cultures. Like we're not really into the woke stuff like people are like moving on a little bit. Like so you don't think it would be like help if you put on a dress. I don't know people do love when he wears a dress and it gets people talking. That's the thing. Yeah. I feel like the thing with Harry Styles is like no one's talking like we don't really care. Like the album's stunk and like people are not living for him in his engagement. Like five years ago not even three years ago if you told me Harry Styles got engaged. Like the world would have been turned upside down. Nobody cares. I kind of care. I feel like I care more than other people. Yeah. Like I don't know why he's just like not making an impact. Yeah. And it's not like he's been a clips like who's like the new male pop star. No one. Like one but if you think about like the males who are having a moment right now would be like somber and role model and it's just like a different vibe. Yeah it's a different vibe. And the vibe that he chose for this era was like 80s businessman. It's giving 80s businessman. Yes. And that's not like you know what the moment right now. He's not meeting the moment. Yeah. It's it's it's and I mean even aging Benson is like almost going to like break his neck throwing flips. But Benson is doing like O.G. Harry stuff because there are a lot of comparisons which is very like Freddie Mercury coded and it's working for Benson. Right. But Benson is doing more than Harry. You know. Yes. Yes. Harry's doing the least. Yeah. Yeah. No it's it's been it's been throwing tricks at every show flips and schmips and hand springs. Yeah. Yeah. So OK. Are you ready for our next story. 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It's very short and so he just texted us the photos. Yeah, like they're actually kind of, there's one that's really good. I don't know, I was like looking like big face. No, but it's like a black and white photo booth. It's like parge. But it was just funny. I forgot that we did that. I'm cute. Oh, and it's a little jiff. You know, like Monday morning he got on his work email and there we are. I'm seriously cracking up. Like we were thinking of him. Like imagine such a treasure in your inbox. It was a Spritz event. Like Spritz was served. Mm-hmm. Oh, big Spritz news coming tomorrow. And I feel like we've really undersold like what we created. Yeah, we've created something amazing. Kind of like an industry leading. It's gonna like kind of change like the whole alcohol game. I know it sounds crazy. I'm not being drama, but like... Watch his space. Watch his space and check the Spritz Instagram tomorrow. Next up... We filmed a commercial at Jackie's house. Like an actual commercial. Yeah, we did. Next up, Gucci show making news. I would say the lead story, Tom Brady making his catwalk debut at the Gucci show. I'm sorry, you know, just speaking about Gucci and Demna reminded me of like an inappropriate joke about children I wanted to bring up. Okay. I hate to be like woke mama. Do it. But there was a joke. I watched SNL, you know, they do once a year where we can update Michael and it's actually so funny. I always watch them. I don't really love SNL, but at the end of every season, we can update the two co-hosts who are Michael, Che and Colin Joest. They write jokes for one another and they have to read them and they don't get to see them before. So Michael writes jokes for Colin. They're always like really racist and Colin writes jokes for Michael. And they're always like sexually inappropriate. And one of the jokes like actually wasn't funny. Like it really made me sick. And I'm not seeing enough hate. No. Michael Jackson jokes. I'm sorry. Like they are funny. Okay. So Colin, Colin wrote this for Michael Che and it was like new reports say that like drinking grape juice is like 50% more likely to give you an erect penis or whatever, which makes sense. Because all my boyfriends love grape juice and they show a picture of like an actual six-year-old with a juice box. Oh, no. Because all my boyfriends are erect. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to find it? It was insane. I was like, I was enjoying up until then. I'm like, oh, haha. And then I was like, what? I swear it was really yucky. Like talking about a child and saying erect. Like seriously, are people fucking okay? Hollywood is never beating the pedophilia allegations. Like I'm sorry. Every time they like start to call demna. Like I'm sorry. It's weird. But they are pedophiles in Hollywood. I know. So it's like they can't beat them because they are them. And where is like the, you know, that like mother's group, like mothers against driving, and there's like a mother's group for TV. Yeah. They need to go after that. Like Colin Joseph, I'm sorry you're discussing for that. Yeah. And I was just trying to really like Colin Joseph. He was on New Heights like being hilarious. Yucky. Like seriously, yucky. Stop making jokes about kids. Like seriously, if you can't be funny without talking about pedophilia, like maybe you're just not funny. Yeah. Unless you want to make jokes about the pedophiles and make fun of the pedophilia. I said pedophilia. Yeah, not pedophiles. Yeah. Yeah. That is Michael Jackson. Like I said, I'm always down for a Michael Jackson joke. Okay. Well, Gucci show and everyone was there, but now like Demna is Gucci. I know. I was like, why is everyone going Gucci? And it's because of Balenciaga. And you know what? Like maybe everyone will stop. Because well, I don't think it was Demna who was like giving the weird child vibes. I think he's amongst. Oh, really? Yeah. I thought it was like, yeah, maybe. Okay. So yeah. Yeah. Like and I think then people started looking into Demna and they didn't like what they saw. Oh, oh. So then like Demna went to Gucci and now everyone's at Gucci and that's not good. Yeah. Everyone was at Gucci. Tom Brady, Alex Earl, Conkarashian. Paris Hilton. She walks in. And like Alex Earl gets invited to a Gucci event. Like I don't expect her to go like and she's just like operating at such an A-list level. One thing about me. I never blame Alex Earl for anything. No, but there are some people who have choices. Yeah. And they choose to do this. Yeah. And also like randomly like Tom Brady, like you aren't a model. You aren't a fashionista. I saw him like mean mugging. He's like, he's seriously a stereotype. He's Ben Stiller. He looks like Zoolander. Yeah. He's like this. He's like a dude. He watched the Zoolander. Like he was giving blue steel in like the Zoolander leather outfit. He looked like so silly. He seriously is like no shame. Yeah. I'm such a Tom Brady hater. Yeah. Paris Hilton also walked the show. In a wig. In a Amanda Bautoula wig. Yeah. Yeah. She also has choices, you know. Yeah, absolutely. She has less choices. She has less choices than others, but she has choices. And Tom Brady has choices. Yeah. It was in the middle of Times Square. And these are the choices that they need. Yeah. And it's crazy because like Alex Earl, and I'm sure she just like wears what she's told to wear, but she was like literally wearing like an actual like fashion Nova gray bodycon dress. It's like that's Gucci. And you know that dress is like probably $2,000. But she doesn't have choices. No, I don't. I never blame Alex Earl. You guys know that. Like she's just like happy to be there. Yeah. Like honored. Honored, yeah. And then like. And she'll get to a place where like she has choices and I know she'll make the right ones. I know her dad will make the right ones. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But until she has to do these things to get to a place with choices. Of course. So yeah. Gucci. Gucci. Our fifth and final story, a little baby mama drama. Oh my God. And Pete Davidson are like really, you know, beefing publicly. So Elsie Hewitt called out Pete Davidson after their split as a source refutes her claim that he doesn't support their daughter. So Elsie Hewitt started responding to comments. She made a video on TikTok just talking about how she's like doing this alone. And she still has to work. And she's just like sort of like rattling off sort of motherhood musings, which would have been relatable. But people are also like your baby daddy is a famous person. So like, why are you struggling? Like, and so the comments were like, I hope this doesn't mean you're doing this alone financially too. And she was like, yep. She has since deleted the comments confirming that like Pete is a dead beat financially, emotionally. Pete also then via a rep said that this is not true. He's covering actually all of the baby's costs. So I don't know what to believe. So I'm going to give two responses. Okay, here's my response. If Pete Davidson is a dead beat, you're literally disgusting and I hate you. Shame on you. And I think you're one of the lowest levels of human beings. And like you should actually change everything about yourself. I think you're disgusting. I just want to say I just because I have like a hard time believing when people can be so horrible, especially if they've not like shown evil. If they've not shown like evil, horrible behavior. I don't think he's going to be like dad of the year, partner of the year. Sure. But like sending a zeal to go like to go from being excited about the birth of your child to like leaving the mother of your child and your child financially stranded when you are of means. I can't believe I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not doing that. You're not that horrible. Okay. So I actually don't believe that it's that. Yeah. I don't believe it. Oh, okay. Like I'm in disbelief. So you're doubting postpartum women. No, I think it's like, you know, a difference of language and stuff. Plus she deleted the comment. Yeah, right. She also could be like refusing to accept his help because she's so mad at it. Right. For whatever he did. And so she's like, I am going to do this by myself, like by myself. Fuck you. I don't want anything from you. I can do it by myself. I do want to say like, I, whether or not this is true, I blame Pete Davidson wholeheartedly for everything. Like this is a postpartum woman. Like just do whatever she says. Like seriously, give her money. Don't give her money. Like do whatever she fucking says. And the disillusion of their relationship. Like I'm sorry, it is disgraceful when you have a four month old and I'm just, um, like I'm mad at both of them. No, I can't be mad at her. She's postpartum. Like do whatever you want. Yeah. I saw a clip, especially because I don't know what happened between me. Me neither. Right. Like what, what he was doing. Who's to blame. Like what, what it was, maybe he was around and wanting to be around, but it was not a good, not a good scene. You know, I saw a clip of them having said that like on their first date, like she said, like you're going to be the father of my children. I hate like when people like people in Hollywood, it's just like, there's not real people. Like I say that we have to talk about them as much as we do. Like we should really change subjects. Like they're insane. But like, so that part came true. Yeah. But so did they also like not, what are you not saying? No, like I just don't understand. And also is there going to be more kids? Like, oh God, no, please. Like I don't know. I don't, I just don't understand this situation because they seem so happy and they were excited about this and excited about pay. And I was excited. And even though it's hard, you know, it's very hard. Maybe it's just like so much harder than they thought it would be. Like I don't know what. But then it's harder to do it alone. Of course. And I don't know what could have happened between two people famous or not. Like who were like in love up until recently, what could have happened to make you separate when you have a four month old? Like. But then also, and I give a postpartum new mama grace. Of course. But then she posted on her Instagram story. Yeah, this was weird. Trying to find a nanny mother's helper assistant type on her Instagram through Instagram wants people to reach out to her email address to apply to be her nanny. And I just want to be clear that like a nanny, a mother's helper and assistant are three different people. Like you can't have an assistant who's also a nanny. Like that's not the same. No. They're looking for a work assistant. Are you looking for someone to help with the baby or to help you? You're looking for a nurse. Yeah. Like what are you looking for? Yeah, those are two separate things. Yeah. And you're not going to find it on Instagram. No. Posting for that on Instagram is the worst idea. You're with your child. You're going to let a stranger from the internet. Come help with like your famous baby. Right, right. Is the worst idea I've ever heard. Ever. Like, and this is where like, where you're a celebrity, you have access to these like staffing companies and agencies who can help you find an nanny. So like, I don't know. It is such a, what she is accusing him of is like so evil that yes, it's not Congress. He's not the best guy ever. But he's, as far as we know, not an evil person. So to leave your baby mama, when you are, like you said, of me and high and dry with no money, no help, no food. Thank God, I, yeah, she has a Bobby partnership. Hopefully they're setting her formula, you know, like, and also like, who is she before this? Does she, is she Nepo? Who is she dating before this? She did, like Seth Brogan or something. She dated someone like, like Brando. Yeah, someone big. And what was she, how did she meet these guys? Cause was she famous? I think she's like a Nepo. She dated Jason Stakis and Betty Blanco and Ryan Philippi. Okay. And let me just Google Elsie Hewitt job. Like what does she do? I feel like she might be a model or an actress or an influencer. She's a model actress. She's a model actress and social media influencer. She's well known for her roles in industry and Dave. All right. So by the way, and those are major campaigns with guests. That's what she's known for. I think she was discovered in like a guest campaign. Okay, cool. And then she was named Playboys Miss June in 2017. Wait, here's a little video coming up. Who is Elsie Hewitt? Three things to know. One, she shares a daughter with ex-boyfriend Pete Davidson. Okay. Next. It's filled with like quotes. Hold on. This little package people magazine made. She's a model and actress. She moved to LA at age 10. She modeled for brands like guests and was Playboys. So yes, exactly like you said. Thank you so much. Yes, they obviously used a little Gemini for their video. The first role was in a 2018 guest series called Turnt. Also number three, she's a foodie. Elsie eats. Yeah. Yeah. She likes food. That's unique. Yeah. A lot of her content link is giving manic, but postpartum is sort of a manic time. And I just- And the internet responds to mania. Yeah, they do. And they encourage it too. They enable it. So I just really hope she's doing well. And I hope she finds a nanny or a nurse or whatever. And I hope Pete comes through with like a bag of money. Yeah. Just like give money. Give money. Like if you can't give your heart, you can't give your time, you can't give your energy, you bitch. Just give money. I just want to say, back to Kelsey, back to Kelsey because when she was saying- It's Kelsey. From Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And my current name is Elsie. Real Housewives of Rhode Island, how her man is like paying for her rent and helping her with utilities, even though she's broken up with him and moved out and like- Two years ago. Farnishing him on television and has a new boyfriend. She said on Watch, I'm Inside, he loves the show so much and he wishes that- He obviously- Andy said he gave the production zero approvals on using his photo, his name, anything. But Kelsey says he loves the show now. That's so cute. I just want to say, she's really made in the shade for herself. And the fact that she's got this guy paying her bills after they broke up. And she said, if we were married 10 years, I'd have something. So why not get a little something, even though I've just been the girlfriend? And the fact that she's literally in the show having a boyfriend while she has a boyfriend, she's considering her options under his roof. But she's not and she never was. Like this is all fake and she's a concubine. Because I would be worried you'd get kicked out of the house for being with another guy at the polo match. Yeah. But she really, she must be so fabulous that her O.G. boyfriend like doesn't, he just wants to help her and support her and love her. Is concubine like a slur? I think it's like- Yeah, no, I know what it means. I think it's like the word whore. Yeah, okay. I mean, if the shoe fits, and shout out to Margaret Justice for teaching me that word, who did she call a concubine? Jennifer Aiden? Oh, yeah. But that was a stretch. Jennifer Aiden has six children with the man. So like, oh, she doesn't work? Like that's fine. I kind of feel like Kelsey's sort of textbook. Yeah, no, sure. Maybe she's a concubine. I just feel like that word feels like- And you say she doesn't have a job. That's the definition of a concubine. That's her job. Yeah. That's her job. But I also want to know like, what was she doing in that house for eight years without a job? Well, she was really technically in it for four years because the other like 50% of the time. No, no, the 50, but she was still in the house. Yeah, but she was in the house with the owner of the house and like living a full life. No, the 50% when he was there, I understand what you're doing. You are working for your man. So the cumulative four years, like what was she doing living there alone? Yeah. What, how was she feeling her days? I mean, like definitely gets lonely in the palace. Like she wasn't on the show. She wasn't running a business. She wasn't doing anything. Like what was she doing? And that was probably her biggest mistake was like not using those eight years to like build something that she could walk away with. Yeah. Like you literally had eight years- I thought she was like squirreling away a little money. I don't get the sense that she was. You don't think she was squirreling? No. I hope that she was. But it seems like money just, you know, people just give her money. Yeah. She's just one of those girls like where it appears like, I wish I had a dollar. Because I was worried, of course, like you have to leave the mansion. I'm going to have to get like a condo or something at the job and how are you going to, and she's just like, he's giving her money. Yeah. And I just think it takes a special kind of woman to get that. You're so wrapped up in the pretty privilege. Like it's insane. No, I think, I think she's one of the best to do it. To be beautiful? Yeah. Like some people like have a rich boyfriend, sugar daddy, and the minute they disrespect them, they're out on their eat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like literally some people, their husbands, like Lisa Hoxie, and she gets thrown out. She has two kids with the man. Alicia's not even on the deed for her house. That's really crazy. She has like, and so Kelsey really got herself set up nicely. Yes. Yes. So credit to her. You're so toxic. Why? Disar. Why? I hate disagreeing with you. Like, I just hate it. No, and your criticisms are very valid. I know. But I want to focus on the positive. I don't want to fight. No, I don't want to fight either. But I can't believe you like Rosie. No, I know because it's in Congress with me. She's so crazy weird. Like, but I just feel like that's how right she is. And that's how mean everyone's being to her. Okay. Even though I feel like she's not wrong in this situation, I don't think she's so right. I think she is. Because also like, what if she is not being, hasn't been genuine this entire time? Well, I need that to be proven. I need her like, I need the blueprints to the house. Like I need someone to be like showing me. Like you can't just say she's lying about adding 5,000 square feet. And then it's like, it's less than that. It's like, okay, you don't even have a house. Yeah. But like if she's going around saying like, 8,000 square feet, 8,000 square feet, and it's not like. Well, what is it? Yeah. And now, by the way, I hope she's updated her plans because it has to be. Of course. Like seriously, just put like a garage in. Put a fucking base. Yeah. Right. Give me shit. Get it done. A big porch. Yeah. This is giving real houses of Atlanta when they were all buying new houses, like lying to each other about like more manner, Chateau Chiray about like they didn't have baseboards. Like that was seriously so funny. This is what it's giving. That's funny. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's your show. That's your show. I think it was a good one. And the place really does look great. It always does. So thank you so much for listening to The Toast on Monday. We're gonna show you a little bit of a fast side story so you can listen to every Monday, Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us video thumbs up. We're also available as podcasts and we're a podcast that we found. 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