Get in the freaking auto! From the Quantum Fiber Studio, this is Brock and Salk on Seattle Sports. Brock Ewerd is my hero. James Ewerd just punched me in the kidney. Who's gonna use you to manage? That way, Sherm, this is a show that has my name on it. It's gonna turn, though. Now, here are your hosts, Brock Ewerd and Mike Salk. Hello! Hello! Hello! Good morning, Brock and Salk Show here on Seattle Sports, on 710salesports.com and the Seattle Sports app, plus 973 HD2 and YouTube, all places where you can find the show, listen to the show, watch the show, interact with the show. You can do all of those things, and we'll be here every day for you on all those platforms and more. Well, do you want to jump right into them, guys? I mean, we've got them. I got overnight Mariner tax. They're not quite as overnight this time, because obviously the Mariners play at 5 o'clock, so a couple of hours early, but I got a lot of texts. A lot. You guys are into this. I love it. 866-979-3776. There's some good ones in here. A lot of passion, a lot of frustration, some things that we can clear up and some things that I think I might have to agree with. So let's jump into these from the overnight. The worst thing about watching the Mariners is that they don't seem to have any fire, no passion. They don't seem to care. Who is the guy who's going to throw a chair across the clubhouse and show some stones? Lyle? If you're throwing a chair across the clubhouse in April, I think you need to tone it down a bit. It would be better if that said, Why haven't the Mariners panicked? I've panicked. Why haven't they? They're three and what are they? Four and seven? They're four and seven. They're not four and 77. This is a common one, man. We get these every year and it's such a hard one. I totally know, honestly, I know exactly where you're coming from. I totally get it. That used to be a thing. It's not anymore, but it used to be a thing. You do want guys who are passionate. You do want guys who love the game, who eat, drink, sleep, breathe, baseball, who are passionately intense about the game. I love guys like that. You don't necessarily want guys that are panicking and throwing chairs across the clubhouse to fire everyone up because it's baseball. It's not football. It's not hockey. It's not an adrenaline sport. It's a, it's a calm sport. That being said, I will also point out no team that is not hitting looks like they are intense. It's just the way it is. When you're not hitting, it's really hard to show all of those other things. You don't see them working in the back. We don't see them working in the cage. We don't see all of the ways in which they are being intense. You only see them heading back to the dugout after another play in which they don't score or hit and that's frustrating. And it doesn't look like they're, they're, they're intense, but I don't know that that's a fair one. Sorry. Has Randy given up on the Mariners? Is he trying to get shipped out with his play? Interesting question. Randy's defense has been really bad. Randy's effort level, effort level in left field has been suboptimal. Randy's been one of the best hitters on the team. Got an OPS over 850. He's got a batting average hovering just under 300. For a team that is striking out a lot, he only has five strike out so far this season. One of the lowest on the team. Randy's been great at the plate. The effort level in the outfield has been actually about the same as it's always been, which is suboptimal, but I don't know that it's been any different. He's hitting though. Say what you want on a team that's not hitting Randy's hitting. He might be their most consistent hitter so far. So is Randy given up and trying to get shipped out? I don't have any evidence of that, but I don't love what I saw last night in left field. I think both those things can be true. So says another tax date, six, six, nine, seven, nine, three, seven, seven, six. Aren't these fun late night Mariner tax? Why do you like these? I do, but I'm going to be totally honest. I'm just used to all this. I know it's in my life in the like on the daily. It's too much in your life. So, so this one says if Cal was the only reason we scored, are we trading everyone else today and leaving Cal? That's a good question. Cause yesterday somebody wanted us to cut Cal. Now we have to keep Cal and cut everybody else. That's fair. This team sucks out loud. So the tax might be a little early for that. I don't know. Have you ever on this note cause it's a similar idea. Have you ever gone and just read through the comment section when a team, the Mariners or anybody post their final score graphic after a loss? Oh my God. Sometimes I use it as therapy after a loss. I just scroll through the comments on the final score graphic. It's insane. I've never done that. I kind of stay away from any comment section. The text line is about as close as I get. YouTube comments. I'm out. Yeah. Twitter responses. I'm out. Yeah. I'm out on all that. Let's see. We suck at ABS challenges. I think they're actually right in the middle. They're above 500. Bunch of teams are below 500. I was looking at that this morning. They're like in the middle. I think they're 13 and 11. I think they also have the second or third most challenges of any team, which surprised me. I thought that they would be lower, but they're like a 24. The Yankees are 25. The twins are like 75 and no one else is close. It's not 75, but it's a lot more than everybody else. There are teams with like under 20. They're doing fine. They're they're they're around league average. Maybe just ahead. I think they were 13th out of 30 teams. So I know it feels like they stink. They don't. They're about the same as everybody else actually a little bit better. Can't wait to hear Dan come out and talk about how great the offense looked with all those two hits and one run. They look like a 2024 Mariner offense that simply never hit. All right. So those two, I think you guys know that I feel differently about the 2024 Mariner offense and said he finished. What was it? Eighth and runs that year? Like it did hit. It was frustrating at times when it didn't, but they did finish eighth and runs. As for Dan coming out and talking about how great the offense looked, I don't know that he did that last night. He seemed a little frustrated with it also. But yeah, I'm with you. I don't I don't like after these games where you just hear like, yeah, actually, you know, we really hit the ball like you can do that once or twice. You can't do that every day for a week. I'm kind of with you on that one. Why is it the second you put on a Mariners jersey? You lose all ability to hit a baseball. I don't Rob refs. Neither might be asking that question today. That poor guy's over. What is it over 14 over 13 over 13. Rob refs. Snyder has absolutely destroyed lefty pitching for a huge portion of his career, including the last five years. He's come here and cannot buy a hit and the abats have not been good either. It's not like he's getting robbed. He just really hasn't had it. It looks a lot like Donovan Solano last year, which is too bad because Solano, we were like, this is never going to work with ref Snyder. It felt like it would work. I don't know what's going on. I hope he gets it together because in theory, he's a weapon in theory. He's like a guy you want to maneuver things for so that he comes to the plate in the late inning situation against the lefty. You'd love that. He murders left handed hitting or pitching, but he hadn't done it this year at all. He's been awful. Boys says a text. I think we have a bad baseball team. Well, it might be a little early for that. The managing of the seventh inning was embarrassing. This team is embarrassing. Yeah, the seventh inning was not good. Not Dan's finest moment in terms of strategy. I guess I would just say this. The Mariners have obviously made a deal there. Like they've decided that Dan is great at managing the team, managing the personalities, managing the team, managing the leadership, getting the guys to play a certain way that they want them to play and keeping the clubhouse in a direction they want it. They are willing to trade some confusing moments in game strategically. They didn't make any changes after the after the playoffs last year. They basically said, yeah, we get it. Either they agree with the decisions that are being made, which I can't. It doesn't feel like Justin and Jerry two guys that are pretty by the book or they just say, look, we know, but there's other priorities. And I think that's why we're going to end up having some frustrating moments like the seventh inning yesterday. They got out. They got different priorities. They've made a trade off. I don't necessarily agree that that's the direction they should go, but they have kind of is what it is. Finally, my favorite pastime is getting sulk explained. First of all, that should be a term more. Can we can we coin that term forever to be sulk explained? Yes. Absolutely. Well, I'm smarter than you are. So of course you're going to get sulk explained. My favorite pastime is getting sulk explained that the other pitcher was really good. The bad matchup. The lineup has some dudes forgetting that these things described the M's as well. I mean, I don't feel like that's something. Sometimes the other pitcher is really good. I would say yesterday. The other pitcher is pretty good. He's pretty good. It was Jacob DeGram. But you'd like to score more than one run. Yeah, right. Like both of those things can be true at the same time. Yeah, you got to do better and you got to do better against the Texas bullpen for sure. You got to grom out of the game early enough. You got to go to work. You can't you came in with two hits. That's not good enough. And you know, you got to get traffic on the bases. You got to hit some home run. You got to do all those things. Could we get a refresher on the Larry sulk rule? You can, but you've got to be up in a late game. Sip late game situation. The Mariners haven't had that. The Larry sulk rule is when your closer comes into a game and a regular season game, you turn it off and just say whatever all he can do is his job. If he does his job, then they win. They were supposed to win. If he fails, who wants to see that? You're just going to go to bed mad. So when the closer comes in, you just turn off the game and say, I believe they won. And then you find out in the morning and if they lost, you're like, Oh, thank God, I didn't see that. And if they won, you're like, yeah, of course they won. They were supposed to win. Closer came in to do his job. It only works during the regular season and safe situation, but like, yeah, there's, there's some merit to it. I don't do it because, you know, I have a job to do, but my dad does, that's for sure. He does it all the time. That's Larry sulk rule. All right. Great batch of mostly crazy and sometimes sane overnight texts. Keep in common during these games. 866-979-3776. We'll come right back with everything you need to know, including some of the highlights or whatever they were from last night. It's Brock and sulk sale sports on 7 10 sale sports.com. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock cured and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP, CRMs and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. Marquee IQ brings all your data together into one clear view. 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All right, not the start anyone was hoping for with these Mariners took another misstep last night as they dropped their third straight game this one in Texas and kind of a familiar story. The bats remain very, very quiet just two hits on the night. One of them was Cal's first home run of the season. That's good to see and hopefully a sign that he's ready to break out. It was a solo shot that gave them at least the lead early. It came at the end of a 12 pitch at bat. So like there was some positive pitch at that next offer swing to drive deep to right field. There she goes. Goodbye baseball number one for Cal Raleigh. It was an absolute crush job gone the second it left the bat. That was super great. Unfortunately, they gave it right back with a double and a single in the bottom of the first inning and then this one in the sixth proved decisive. He delivers three to swung online drive left field Randy racing back racing back reaches up over his head. It's off the wall. Seager will score burger in the second and the Texas Rangers have a one run lead in the sixth two to one Texas just out of the reach of Randy. Lyle lack of effort or bad route. I thought I was not catchable. I mean I thought it was a tough route. Okay. So not an effort issue just a mistake. Is that how you saw it pretty much concentration issue. Tough to know just watching on TV. I know it is but I'm going to assume it was just a bad route but catchable ball. I thought yeah like look Logan had him oh too. You could argue he should have just put him away but I thought Randy could have taken a bit around it. It's not the story of the game. Right. I mean the story of the game is you got to have more than two hits but in a game in which the other guys keeping you down you got to make all the plays and do all the little things. So Mariners fall to four and seven game two in Texas tonight George Kirby against Nathan of Aldi. Good news Brandon Donovan was back in the lineup after missing a couple of games bad news he went over for good news he made a stellar play a third. So hopefully he will get back to hitting tonight. Here's the second thing you need to know. Maybe it's nothing because as we know veterans often skip early offseason activities but Miles Garrett nowhere to be found at the start of the Cleveland workouts yesterday this coming a few weeks after the team made some changes to his contract that could make it easier for them to deal him would I be interested. Yeah. Of course I am. I don't think I could think of anything the Seahawks could do that would be more exciting than adding Miles Garrett nothing not one thing that would be the best thing they could do most exciting. They got a ton of picks next year to use like a 33 million dollars in cap space. I'm all in now one player who definitely wants out is Giants defensive lineman Dexter Lawrence. Did you guys say that this was going to be my new you guys were talking about me off the air. How dare you to how dare you Lyle Amora I saw it yesterday during the final segment. I was like something tells me this is going to come up tomorrow. He's only he's only 28. He's got a nice history with Leonard Williams. I don't think this one's going to happen. Here's Ian Rapoport though with more best case scenario for both sides is for a contract situation that makes Dexter Lawrence and the Giants happy. In other words a new deal where everyone can agree this guy who's been basically the face of their defense for the last several years one of the best defensive lineman in the NFL at times the best defensive lineman in the NFL that puts him in a Giants uniform for years to come. That would be the best case scenario. A trade would come one if the Giants decided they wanted to part way with one of their great defenders who wreaks havoc in the middle of their defense and two of another team wanted to pay for a 28 year old defender making $20 million who as you mentioned Tom is not coming off his best season. Okay. So the best case scenarios they sign them. The other scenario is they trade them. Thanks Ian. They could trade them. Would you be interested in the 28 year old who two years ago had nine sacks from a nose tackle spot. Yeah. I'd be interested for whatever reason that one doesn't get me as excited but he a good player. If they did it I certainly wouldn't be mad. That's for sure. Here's the third day you need to know. Let's see Kraken shook up their lines last night. They scored first. So that was some good news and then after that everything went awry was awful. They gave up the next three goals. They scored one to make it three two and then they gave up three more fifth straight loss. This thing is completely coming off the rails. Lane Lambert trying to explain where he's at. I thought our structure was okay on their second goal again. We don't make a play on the third goal. Our structure was all right on that one as well and it goes off lingering and in the net. So you know these are just these are just things that are are happening right now and you know we've got to we've got to stop the bleeding. You know it's about for me it's about pride right now. Well if it's about pride the pride seems to be walking out the door. They are not playing proud hockey at all. They'll be in Minnesota tonight. Did you read anything into for some reason the way he started to talk and then corrected himself and said for me it's about pride right now almost felt like well I can only speak for myself. I don't know about these guys. I mean I don't disagree with that more. Yeah. I mean I think he feels like he's tried everything. I look I will have some more thoughts on this later if you want but like people are saying yesterday and we were talking through this right. Like well you can't fire a coach after one year again like maybe you can when it was like the fifth best coach that was out there in the off see it's not like they went big and went after an approving coach with a huge history of success. They went after a retry to have not had much success anywhere like I don't know the Devils essentially wiped out their entire front office and coaching staff yesterday and see how the Mariners or Sir the Kraken rather respond by the end of the year. Congrats Michigan Wolverines their national champs for the first time since 1989. It wasn't Romile Robinson this time but they did win the Natty. How are you not emotional right now with this ride like how are you just cool smiling. No emotion no tears. It's more of reflection of all the years that went into this by so many people and the commitment our guys had to doing this. I'm sure I'll fill it at some point but now start thinking about how do we do this in Detroit next year. Oh my God dude give it a moment. That's Dusty May the head coach like come on. You can take a moment and be happy. Take just a moment. All right that's everything you need to know. Is this real. Geez this can't be real. I don't general I almost always have my Twitter feed on who I'm following rather than the for you because I don't want to see things from people that I don't follow. I've called that list for a reason but this just popped up in the fee because I hadn't changed it yet when I signed in from someone named Dan Clark. I don't know that is. Jared Kellnick's nose dive continues. He is currently the worst hitter in triple a literally the worst. He is hitting 045 with an OPS of 165 for after not making the White Sox. God it's sad. Please Jared just I really hope he's able to get it back together. That is such a bummer. All right. We'll get away from baseball for a few minutes. We have plenty to talk about later Jeff Passon will be here at 830 but Peter Schrager loves these Seahawks. You'll hear why next. Highlights don't win games the full box score does. I'm Brock you're at and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP CRM's and spreadsheets making decisions reactive instead of confident and that's not how great businesses are built. 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All right well Brock this is something new with we've been on a roll with new guests recently 17 years in you would think that there's nothing new under the sun but we've managed to find some folks that we've never talked to before and today that's Peter Schrager who's kind enough to join us from NFL Network and now ESPN as well. Good morning Pete how are you good morning big fan of you guys both from afar Brock I've known from our old days at Fox or we both were there doing our thing at those seminars but I see the clips of you guys all the time and I'm like these guys because I've long been the voices in Seattle it's time for me to get in the saddle let's go. Well appreciate that do we go Peter Peter what what is Peter Peter. Okay that's what my mother named me that's what we'll go by and I very rarely correct it but if you're going to ask me straight we'll go with Peter yeah I mean like you know if only people had asked Travis a chain then we wouldn't have gone to the whole Etn debacle and just just ask people's not that hard right. All right Peter it is. Matthew it's Matthew Hasselback exactly same reason because Betsy named him Matthew not Matt so you call him Matthew. Peter why do you love these Seahawks so much man if you talk about Salki and I and seeing our clips through the years Holy smokes over the last couple years and this I don't know this off season it's hit that much more just from afar it sure feels like you've got a ton of affinity for this organization that we love. I've always known John and Trent Kirchner and the guys in the front office I didn't have a great or you know intimate relationship in any way as some of the other reporters did with Pete Carroll since McDonald has gotten there there's been a different look at this team for me and it's been more about how they're going against the grain than every other team in the league or its young offensive coach let's get the hot new name and here we go McDonald's the last coach hired out of that cycle bring him in and it's defense first but this entire rebuild almost in a seamless fashion going from Russ to Gino to now you know Sam Darnold and then to go from Pete and what he built to now Mike McDonald and to even move on from an offensive coordinator after just one season. There's something different about the Seahawks team that's different than the other 31 franchises we know the fan base is amazing we know the history of this franchise is amazing but I've really grown to love this like I would say almost John Schneider 3.0 version of the Seahawks you had the Pete version with Russ and then you had the Pete version with Gino and now you have this Pete version or this Mike McDonald version with Sam Darnold and this year's team like I was saying after I went to the Monday night game they beat Houston Texans they didn't play great on offense but they were dominant on defense and I said afterwards I'm like that's a Super Bowl team and I went on get up the next day and I was like you know prisoner of the moment I was there but this team could do it and while we were all doing flips over the Eagles in the Rams all season sure enough who was hoisting the Lombardi it was the Seattle Seahawks and they did it a different way. So what is it about them that you think allowed them to get there what did you see that day and what what got you really going on that train why they went up this list this culture. A commitment to a cause I posted a clip this week that went viral about me talking to McDonald at the owner's meetings and I asked him you know what was the best part about winning the Super Bowl and you ask other coaches that they'll give you a pit the answer about I got to play golf at Pebble Beach or I got to meet you know Halle Berry or Kevin Costner because I was on the red carpet at some event like that was cool Mike McDonald with like a straight face just answers back and is like it defended our way of life and I'm like slow down he's like no not to be dramatic but all of the things that we preach all of the things that we talk about it's all justified when you're hoisting a Lombardi and a lot of people made sacrifices to get there. So for me I look at this team I look at what it's about and it starts with that head coach and like he's not one to bust chops he's not one to tell but then again and the same breath. They welcome in Adam Ray the comedian to like roast the team and he's good with you guys and he'll crack a joke like he's not a robot he's not Bella check and yet he knows when to turn it on it's turn it off and he's not going to host the SPS anytime soon he's not going to be a stand-up comedian but there is a sense of humor there and I think the players appreciate how authentic he is. First of all there is a little Bella check there not a lot but there's definitely like there's a little Bella check and you know Brock and I have interviewed him now every week during the season for the last 2 years and I think everything you just said is right I don't think either of us were surprised that his answer wasn't about Kevin Costner Halle Berry that it was about defending their because he is a very serious guy but he does seem to have a pretty good sense of what he's not in addition to what he is so when he brings in Adam Ray or someone along those lines I think a lot of it is look that's not who I am so other people still need that where can I go find what I'm not in order to compliment who I am. I I'm going to bring up your interview with him where he did the whole we don't care and I talked to him afterwards and he's like I was referencing an interview I did with those guys at training camp but the national audience doesn't know that where they beat the Rams and it's you know what did it mean to do it we didn't care and it's like it was a reference for the listeners in Seattle to your show in Brock and Salkin it's like yeah but that's him he's like that was for you guys that's for the fans who actually are following that's a layup for you and then everyone in the national media was like who is this guy. Yeah. Do you buy Peter Shreger here with us do you buy the McDonald's McVay comparisons. Interesting dynamic different very different Sean was raised in a football family and like was immediately handed off to Gruden when he was working in the U. F. L. and then learned from Shanahan and J Gruden and did all like Mike's dad I think it was what in construction or shipping or something down there in Georgia like it's a different breed so Mike comes literally as he's an alien in the NFL he comes from literally nowhere and begged Kirby smart for an opportunity to work at Georgia and then worked his way up up the ladder not that Sean was gifted anything but it's like Sean was in the crib learning football. Mike McDonald almost self taught in a way so they're both young they're both going to be in this thing for a long time and they're both going to be competing against each other but I see them as very different people and I could tell you knowing McVay way longer than I've known Mike McDonald and being very close with McVay and a guy who's been to McVay's wedding all this day like he respects the hell out of Mike McDonald but he wants to beat the hell out of Mike McDonald as well and I think that is mutual and they're very different personalities they're very different they're both from the state of Georgia but I don't see them as similar in any way as far as how they got into this or how they dress their team. All right so I like that's interesting knowledge that you know McVay as well as you do so maybe you can help me because from I don't know McVay from Adam looking at it from far we saw him you know kind of continue to I'm going to say wine but you could use a different word if you want about the two point conversion and then he's like that's like a rubik's cube I can't even like describe when I have to like give it up but he popped into Mike's press conference the other day and had to mention it is it possible Mike's in his head? It's good right I mean it's like WDF. Oh it's good. Oh is it good? Our listener audience came up with McVay Bay Bay. Yeah they called him McVay Cry Bay Bay. I'm here to see here armchair psychologist and I'm going Sean McVay has been the king of the hill and the king of the division and oh they keep challenging him with all these other offensive geniuses and he's like whatever I can handle all that stuff but then along comes this defensive dude who does it a totally different way and has a little bit of his number is is Mike and Sean's head a little bit. So I think Sean would argue their defense hasn't done anything to get in our way we put up 500 yards in week 16 and we scored 35 points in the NFC Championship game or whatever they scored so I don't think it's like he himself and his schemes are keeping us up at night I think he respects what they've done and they've gotten the win that two point conversion play has been vexing for the Rams since it happened and how it went down how it was legislated whether Terry McCully who was working on Amazon was the one who ultimately called the code red to the league like all those questions are bizarre and are Rubik's Cube but at the end of the day they got the call right. So what are we arguing over how the car how the call was made and the mechanics behind it and how it took three minutes to actually get the call in the field and the kickoff teams were up there and then we're reviewing it or we are doing we want the call to be right at the end of the day. I think that's what keeps everyone up at night with that one in LA because they know that yes letter the law to two point conversion and Charbonne picked it up and it was a live ball and yet that was as unorthodox a jurisdiction of a play or a rule as we've ever seen in the NFL very talkable like if you want to take it that way and say well then there's you know a road with a fork in the road and one side went one way one side went the other sure enough they got a chance to play again and the Rams can't cry about anything the Seahawks beat them fair and square in the NFC championship and probably play three times this fall to. They might I think they're the top two teams in the division I think the Rams reloaded they got McDuffie and they saw some of the stuff that JSN did to them and they said we can't have that happen another time we're not going to be this team if we don't and as much as the Seahawks went through the brain drain of losing Kubiak and he took with him a couple guys and of course the free agents that left this Seahawks team is loaded and I don't see them to have some major drop off after winning a Super Bowl last year. What I see is the Seahawks still have 33 million dollars worth of cap space left. What should they do with it? Yeah, I don't know because they didn't do it really in free agency right they brought back their guys that they wanted and they spent a bunch on the receiver. But when you talk about losing a Kenneth Walker could they have spent 15 million and kept him. They didn't they chose not to so what's left out there on the on the heap like I don't I don't think there's some prime free agent target they're going to spend that on but now John Schneider has a little wiggle room and it's ironic after all these years of the albatross of that Russell Wilson contract you know that they got shipped that to Denver they still had to do now it's like they won the Super Bowl and they've got money to spend and they've got some picks in this draft like yeah I think Seattle's in a good place. You we played some of your sound last week when you were on with the McAfee in the boys talking about John Schneider being the one of ones and as far as if we could all be there at the owner's meetings in the after hours at the owner's meetings why why is John the one of ones. I want to I want to make sure because you guys are so sure that I want to make sure we make a clear distinction here just because sometimes you're out and others are drinking alcohol and others are having a good doesn't mean you're a party animal. You could still be the charismatic guy and still be a magnet for everybody socially and the the most popular guy in the room without being you know fall down drunk or without being some guy who's popping his mouth up. John Schneider at this owner's meetings and it's every GM and every coach is literally in the corner and he's not the biggest guy as we know physically sitting there with Mike McCarthy and he's got a line of people just coming up to him just to get a piece just because they want to be around him. It's a magnetism that I can't speak of that I wish I had and that he's got this big old grin on his face. He spends time with everyone whether it be a coach GM an NFL official even people in the media schmucks like me like and he'll give you that time and he'll reference something that's a religion. He's a great connector in people person and for all the competitive nature in this league I won't find a single person around the NFL has got a bad word to say about that guy and he might be the only person that you can say that about. So I think he's the bell of the ball at all these meetings and now that he's won a second title and this time with an entirely new franchise and an entirely new roster like I think there's a real respect there also so it's not because he's out there partying it's because he's the dude everyone wants to want to tie it a second or anything because he makes you feel better when you leave that conversation. Yeah, I like that your reference went in a second and doing it without Pete because there really is something to okay the first one he got so much of the credit for right it was Pete who came in and changed the culture here and he came in he hired Mike so all the credit that you give to Mike also goes to John he built the team essentially from scratch a second time these are all his moves and a lot of them are built off trying to get Mike what he wants but he's the one who's actually going out and finding them and if John were sitting next to us he'd be like well it's not just me and it's my entire staff and he go on and on but he hired all those guys like eventually it all does this this Super Bowl really does roll up to him. He's the one constant him and Dave Pearson. Yeah right like Dave plays a major role in this too. Let's not let's not get ourselves Eric Kennedy. Look at that order chart it's like who's there there's Dave Pearson. You know if you don't mention me Mike call you later and yell at you and nobody wants to by the way took a shot at me and was like so you know this is my Dave Pearson imitation if anyone listening he's the PR guy has been there forever and he's a man and he pulls me aside at the moment so did you get a chance to buddy up to your buddy McVay yet. I'm like I don't relax enough like that's him and he knows it. Yeah it is. But there's very few holdovers from when Pete first came in all the way to here. I'm sure that people in the business side that I don't know but gosh John has been that constant and Tracy his wife to like their big roles in this organization and they set the tone and I just think what he said at that parade was I thought spiritually uplifting talking about the angels that were following this team but also how that can galvanize someone when you lose all those fathers and brothers and close people within an organization in one year then you look to each other and say well this is family also. I just think it's not Pete's team it's not like it's and it's not necessarily Mike McDonald's team if you look at the blueprint of this entire roster it John Schneider built this thing so you got to give him respect where to do. So what is the blueprint next if you if you have to guess what direction they go. We saw the Patriots model we've seen the chief's model we've seen some of the Eagles model. What do you think they will try to emulate to give themselves as many bites at this apple as they can. You got to retain the young talent you've got to find a way and you start that with JSN you know obviously witherspoon like these are guys that are cornerstone pieces that are homegrown and that's the key you lose a boy a mafia and a Kenneth Walker other homegrown pieces but you say OK we're losing them but in doing that we're going to be able to spend for X we're losing Rick Wollin but we're going to be able to spend on why and it's key to identify those players and then take care of them and make sure they are Seattle Seahawks for life and that we say that you know obviously they can it but at least one extra contract where you get those core pieces. I think one of the great regrets I have as a NFL observer and is that like that Seahawks Legion of Boom team if the Malcolm Butler player whatever doesn't happen you have two championships the Patriots then are 11 years in between winning Super Bowls and who knows what happens and the Seahawks are the team of that generation. They got one they went to two Super Bowls awesome they went they had a great success. Let's not have this team be a one and done let's have what did we do what can we do to retain and make sure that we keep everyone happy and keep everyone satisfied and there's not fissures of them amongst the team and that everyone is able to get another bite at this apple. I think the key is looking back 10 years ago. What can we do to not replicate that and then now looking forward 10 years and saying how do we stay atop this mountain. Last couple minutes here Peter Schreger you mentioned earlier Schneider and we chatted through McDonald it's you know guests like you that are as connected as you are kind of getting my mind going and I find it I don't just listening to your answers on both those guys I find just the word genuine when you talk about my key is just genuine when you talk about John Schneider he's just genuine is that unique in the league. Yes. I mean once you're at the top of the mountain you can be genuine but the only way to get there is to be genuine and to connect with authenticity I I think the McDonald thing is fascinating because he's not how do I put this. He's never going to he wasn't going to win high school president or prom king or anything like he's not I hate saying the word coolest because he's not trying to be cool he's not trying to have the fashionable like he's just so authentic in his skin and wanting the best for those around him that I think that is a price appreciated and respected like this is a guy who did not play at the highest level did not have dreams of playing at the highest level and as we know by the million stories very superbowl week had a backup option of being in the finance world whether that was legitimate and like he's actually going to pursue that but he chose to do this and he chose to do this on his own path so I think everyone has to respect that even if he doesn't have the playing experience behind him or the tutelage in the being on the tree of anyone before he got to Georgia. I think there's real this and authenticity in Mike McDonald and I think John Schneider is obviously as authentic as it comes and you know what he's all about so the two of them together who by the way if you were to pick 40 guys in a room you wouldn't say all those two are going to be best friends and I don't know if they are best friends but they're different personalities which is also authentic in itself and it's not just a dr. Josh Schneider could hire at any one of his old buddies from Green Bay or his old buddies from Seattle. He hired a guy that he didn't know which I absolutely love yeah and I think he hired a guy that he watched kick his teams but a year earlier and said I want to look more like that did you know we interviewed Mike McDonald this year and he paused for 17 seconds before answering a question. Listen to this. This is this is what would you have done as an interviewer. Give me the number one reason why. Man. Conviction. What would you what would you have done in that spot just let it go right. And you just pray for something so when he gives you that little man about four seconds in your life I give us I mean that's okay that's that's a life raft. Yeah. Well we'll the Nielsen thing would turn off the meters of you have to have sound in order to keep getting ratings. That was like the last episode of sopranos. My cable go out. Peter this. And then you try to put yourself in that head and whatever that hamster wheel is and you're like I have no idea what's going on in there and then it and then it's just one word. Yeah. I wasn't that answer wasn't exactly. No. It's Shakespearean. No. Yeah. You said he's not Bella check but there are moments. There are moments where there's so hey thank you I know you got to get going you got your stuff to do today as well. Thank you for for making your first appearance on the show hopefully not the last this is great. Oh man I loved it guys thank you big fan of both your work. All right that's Peter Schrager now for me a spin formerly of have NFL Network and just a great job that was fun. I mean it we'll see if we can get Peter back that was that was great and he clearly is pretty tapped in and cares a lot about what's going on with these Seahawks. All right so we're not going to do a ton of football today. It's mostly a baseball day and I got a lot of Mariners thoughts both at seven and at 730. Yeah I'm intrigued by Dexter Lawrence of course. How could you not be right sexy Dexie reuniting him with with Leonard Williams of course he's only 28 years old. I mean that you know again I do think that there is a long term like how do you how do you take care of this defensive line forever. Here's the reason I'm probably not going to be all over this one. I just think he and Byron Murphy are probably too similar. I don't know and I haven't watched enough of him so I'll ask Brock Brock will probably have a little better sense. He'll be here in a few minutes. I just I got the sense that he and and Byron Murphy are pretty similar more nose tackles than anything else. And I don't know whether because I do think they're going to sign Byron Murphy to a long term deal. I just don't know if you you put invest in both of those guys at the same time. Now if if there's any reality to the possibility of trading for Miles Garrett you should be not just exploring it but going down as far as you can to try to make something like that happen. He's so good he plays the right position like he's at the prime of his career. There's so many reasons why that would work. Of course that's not like yeah I get it. Miles Garrett works anywhere. It's a great player but like that's the direction I would love to see them go and spend some of that 33 mil. I like Dexter Lawrence a lot. I just think that it's probably a little redundant given the money that you're probably going to spend on the guy you've already got in Byron Murphy. So all right. Brock's going to be in here in just a moment. I do want to talk a ton of baseball today been watching the Mariners now throughout the year. I think I've got three things that I've noticed that are problematic through the first 11 games of this season. They can all change but three things that I think have led to this slow start. It's next on Brock and Salk.
