‘Borat’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

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We were doing comedies all month here on the rewatchables. A bunch of them are on Netflix. There's something about Maren Tropic Thunder. And now I think one of the best comedies of the 21st century, Borat, is next. Borat, you've wanted this for a while. Yeah. We both love it. I'm going to start here. Sasha Baron Cohen. One of the great comedy actor performances in a movie ever for me. Yes. It's a one-on-one. I almost feel like it's lost how good he is in it because the Borat kind of took over and he's done a lot of good stuff. He had the algae show. He's made a bunch of movies, but I'm just like in awe of him in this movie. How incredible he is. So I'm starting to think about it. How incredible he is. So I'm starting there. Fantastic. And I think you just, we're onto something. I think it's a little bit defiled in the wake of it in that the annoying guy in your friend group for the next five years would go, my wife, high five. And it kind of ruined this amazing character that he did, but not for me. My appetite was wet to do this movie with you, Bill, because I was listening to something about Mary Pod and you guys were talking a lot about your experience in the theater, hardest I've ever laughed in the theater, screaming in the theater. This was the same thing. I remember being in the theater for Borat. I was at, I think I was at the Chinese theater right there in Hollywood. And it's not just that people were just laughing, ha ha. There was, there were screams. There was people like pulling their jackets up over their head during the naked fight. There were people who were leaving. Like it was, it was the most chaotic two minutes I've ever had in a movie theater was this movie. The naked fight on a big screen. Yeah. It's almost like a wood sage the worst because it's just never going to be the same watching it at home on a 50 to 70 to 100 inch TV, whatever TV you have to see that on a 50 foot screen. Was are you having earpiece problems with your new set up? First world problems. I'm already going to, I'm going to have to email Bristol. This thing sucks, Bill. If they gave me a crappy earpiece, the one from NFL Networks worked fine, by the way, for years doing this podcast. And now we're 10 seconds in and Bill's trying to talk about how big Oz and Mott's ball sack is on the site. And I just, I can't get the earpiece in. That's right. We're keeping it in. People of this were professionals. Yeah. But on a 50 foot screen. Yeah. Oz and Mott's ass. It's probably my favorite part of the movie just when he gets off him and it's like he got concussed by Ed Reid. And I don't think he's acting. I actually think he's like, it's almost smelling solid spring the trainers out. It's so disgusting. Well, they say the most infamous hit ever. And what I do is the, and this era is the Vontes perfect that Antonio Brown that people think changed Antonio Brown as a person. Yeah. I think that one Sasha Baron Cohen went into as a Mott's chode and that's a different person came out. Like, I don't think he was the same guy that went in. He's never funny. As funny ever again. Best. So, oh, on the great comedy actor performances thing, I was thinking about there's different types. Like early on in the 60s, 70s, and you would have like Peter Sauer's playing all these different parts. Then we get to the 80s and you'd have like the force force of nature comedy stuff, like Belushi and animal animal house just going in, clearing out the cafeteria. And it's like hilarious or Eddie Murphy and Beverly Hills cop, even Chevy Chase and Fletch and go through. This is so different because I think the degree of difficulty was just a hundred out of a hundred. Like it's not just the scenarios is in, but he also has to stay in character. He's got to weather whatever the storm is. And he's also got to be really funny. And there's, I didn't even know until we did the research when he's reading his dictionary. It's actually all these jokes they wrote for the situations. Right. He's not like, I got to know what's, but he's actually like trying to figure out there. So they're prepared ahead of time, but not totally. So it's this combination of like, it's like gorilla improv basically. And I don't know how he does it. I don't know anybody else who could have done this. I think one of the most underrated things about this movie is the writing because there's brilliant stuff that they came up with this, the bit where he goes into the hotel elevator and starts unpacking because he thinks it's his room. Like that is a written script and it's a really funny idea. But I like the guys that you brought up and all the people that we love, Eddie Murphy and Chevy Chase, like they're, they're pretty much playing themselves. Right. They're just funny, charismatic people. You have to find someone who's really, really doing deep character work. Like the people that come to like Mike Myers was doing characters. Steve Martin and the jerk is a character. And what's really jarring is if you were a fan of Dolly G show back when Sasha Baron Cohen wouldn't do media, if you'd ever see an interview with him, it's so crazy how he is this really thoughtful, erudite British man that doesn't sound anything like his characters. It reminds me of Daniel Day that when you see him do interviews, you're like, fuck, that's not Bill the butcher. Like what, that's the best actor I've ever seen in my life. Right. That's the different with Sasha's. Like he's nothing like any Bruno, Ali, none of them. And that's makes it so compelling. Yeah. There's this awesome Conan O'Brien interview that he did, I think like 2016, 17 range. And he tells this whole story about a deleted scene from Borat where Borat films, basically films a porn movie, but he's telling the story as Sasha Baron Cohen. But then he keeps lapsing into Borat as he's telling the story of, of how it is. And it's just like, it's so confusing. It's almost like watching primal fear, like watching Ed Norton go back and forth between the two people because he's like this smart British guy just telling the story. But then all of a sudden he's Borat. And, and by the way, the story was amazing. They film, they go to an actual porn set. It's about how Borat needs more money after it breaks up with Osamap before it means Kamala Anderson. So he actually appears in a real porn film and he's fucking with the director because he's supposed to be like the room service guy and he comes in and they're having actual sex and Borat's supposed to join in and he keeps screwing up the scene and directors getting madder and madder. This sounds great. And he's like, I don't know, her virgin doesn't have hair on it. I don't know if I could, you have to put hair on her virgin in the director's like, we got to get some hair for her virgin. And, and it's like this whole, I guess it went on for an hour. And he's telling the whole story to Conan and Conan is just dying. And that got cut out, which is another thing about this movie. They have, you know, I think, I think they had like, I don't know, 400 minutes of stuff. They narrowed it down to 89, but they had all this deleted stuff. A lot of it's on YouTube. Some of it's on the DVDs and some of it's great, but they, they were so big on what the flow of the movie is not losing the flow. Isn't that a statement though about the movie? Like you said all the time, deleted scenes usually suck. And you know why they're deleted because they were bad. The deleted scenes in this are funny as hell. I was watching my YouTube Borat works at a fast food restaurant and just like, it's messing. It's great. Like you could have had a whole separate movie with the separate, the deleted scenes, which are actually funny. No, no deleted scenes are that great. These are really good. Now, and they were big like they, he explained with the porn scene because they had the naked fight. They felt like two, two kind of naked set pieces would have stepped on the, the Osamot fight, which they knew was like going to be the key to the movie. So they cut it and it's like a classic kill your babies. You know, like I always talk about this with documentaries that would always be, oh man, we can't lose that scene. It's like, we got to lose the scene. We got to get to 90 minutes. And so the good thing is all this stuff's on YouTube. Best mockumentaries ever. Yeah, I have this. So I think spinal tap best and show Borat waiting for Guffman and I'm going to count Blair Witch. Those were the five that jumped out for movies. Is there anyone else who would put in there? That's the list that I have minus Blair Witch, which is good addition. And I feel like spinal tap gets so much respect because it feels like it was first, at least for that generation. Yeah. I, I love waiting for Guffman. I just the small town theater for me is it's my favorite one other than this maybe. Yeah. I mean, I had it when we get to apex mountain. Is this the best mockumentary ever? It probably is. I like it better than spinal tap, but I know spinal tap came first. What's weird is all of those movies, except for Borat are 20th century or like beginning of 21st century. None of those movies are from the last 20 years. I was trying to figure out what happened. And I think the answer is it moved to TV. Cause like the office comes in second half of the 2000s and then you have even stuff like jury duty. You have like Andy St. Berg did that seven days in hell, which I thought was really good. But it just kind of moved away from movies for some reason. And I'm not, not totally sure I agree with it. I don't admit, or maybe it's like we don't have the same kind of improv comedians or I, or maybe it's moving more toward tick tock. And, but it's just weird to me. We haven't had a good one of these in 20 years since Borat. That's strange. I think you're onto something where I'm watching this a lot and some of the bits that he's doing. One of my favorite bits is when he just gets to New York city and he's just, I'm new in town. Nice to meet you. And he's just introducing himself to people. There's, that's a thousand assholes on tick tock do that. They're just messing with people on the street. That was what Billy Eichner was doing. That's like, I follow some of these Instagram accounts that just that my kids like one of the, one of the ones that I follow is called humor bagel. And it's just this guy who walks around central park and just farts and that's all it is. And people love it. That sounds amazing. It's so follow humor bagel. He just farts and people laugh. My kid dies laughing. I watch this sometimes without my kid. But it's like, that's what Borat's doing. He's walking around central park messing with New Yorkers, but now it's, it's just on Instagram. Like it's everywhere. You can do it for free. Well, one of the writers made the, he's Dan Mazer said, we were in Dallas for two and a half weeks. We were worried about a local, local newspaper getting ahold of the fact that we were around. And he said, and he said this 10 years ago today, there would be people cell phones or be on Twitter or be on social media. And that was the problem when they made the sequel. People knew the sequel was happening as it was happening. And I think it was one of the, I mean, COVID kind of killed the sequel, the impact of it. I think it was just a weird time for it to come out. When you say sequel, you mean the subsequent movie film? The subsequent movie film, which I gotta say, I've only seen once. And I'm sure it's better than I remember it, but it was just when it came out, it was so weird. We'd all been by ourselves for, I don't know, seven, eight months. We just had a pretty tumultuous summer and there was an election coming. It just felt like the timing was wrong for it. I gave it a spin this morning and I hadn't seen it since it came out. And I had forgotten it's very Trump driven. You're just like, I don't know. I don't feel like spending time with all that type of shit. And I don't think it has the magic. And also to your point, like, boy, it was a huge deal, huge deal at that point. He was everywhere. Now it still did some good things. Like the Rudy Giuliani thing is absolutely insane. And I'm sure that was a big touchdown for them, but it's not like this one. No. And that was another thing in the research you could feel because I always look for, are there anniversary pieces about the movie and all history stuff? And there was a bunch of pieces in 2016 about the 10 year anniversary of this movie that were like these big think pieces about Borat was having fun with this stuff in 2006. But now this is what our nation is becoming. And these people are winning. And you could feel the tenor of what they're trying to do in the movie actually shifting as it just became more kind of omnipresent as dialogue and conversations that we were having. Yeah. So I think the legacy of this movie is a little strange because the stuff that he's doing in 2006, some of it's really rooted in it's five years after 9-11, right? He has that joke in there about, will the Jews attack the World Trade Center? That's why they have to drive because they don't want to fly. And some of that stuff was funny then and really feels rooted in 2006. And then some of the people who are making fun of, we all kind of made fun of those people, but now I feel like it would have been this politically polarizing thing to have a movie like that. So it just made me feel like more innocent times, weirdly. And the South Park guys have said the same thing. They're like, it's hard to do the show now because like just the reality is what our show used to be. It's too much of a spoof. Right. It's not as ripe for the pickings. But I mean, listen, when this show, when this movie came out, what was your relationship, Bill, with like, with the HBO show? Because I was a massive fan. It's one of my favorite HBO shows ever. It was a big deal for me that they were making a movie. Yeah, yeah. I watched the show. There were some characters that liked other, other, more than others. I always thought Borat was the funniest one. So I was, I was really happy that, that they were going to like expand that universe. But I, it was just such a creative show. And in general, it was a really fun time for comedy because we were having the movie boom. We had this whole generation of new comedians coming in. And then there was like some real experimentation going on on some of the cable channels. Yeah. For HBO to do that. Yeah. Like I just remember watching it was early 2000s. I would T-Voe it. Like it was 2002 and there'd be Borat Bruno and then Ali G. And he was almost exclusively the sit down interviews. I mean, it wasn't any of the road trip stuff, but he would sit down with like Buzz Aldrin and just be like, do you think man will ever walk on the sun? And then he'd be like, no, it's too hot. But then he'd be like, what about in the winter when it's cold? And it was, I was dying laughing. And that's again, the writing. They had that shit so funny and so perfect. And his sit down with Andy Rooney where he walks off set and then Ali G is like, he's chucking me out because the color of me skin. I was like, it's, that's not my HBO Rushmore. Like I have it that high. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was in LA writing for Kimmel show at that point. Yeah. And all of us were like, whatever that guy is doing, it's, it's almost over here. You don't even feel like you're in the same like, you know, stratosphere with that. What is the other thing is it was hard to separate him, the human being from all those characters. It's, I think he's, him and Mike Myers are the two where when they were trying to be normal, it always felt the most disorienting. Anytime you saw Mike Myers being Mike Myers, it's like, I don't, what's, I don't understand what's happening. Like your normal person from Canada, it just never felt right. Well, remember, imagine if Sasha had tried to do like his, so I married an axemurter where he's just a guy driving around like Boston or something. And he, and then in real life, then he like, then he marries Isla Fisher, who's coming off wedding crashers. He's huge too. And then there are this power couple that I'd think is the most disorienting. But I'd think to your point, like post-Borot, Sasha Barron is like, I don't know. It was never my favorite thing. He would always be, he would be in these, the Tessuini Todd and he would be in Ricky Bobby and he was always funny. It's just, it was never. The Chicago Seven movie. Yeah. When we started the ringer, we were in the Sunset Gower studios and he had a company there and he had like an office space and everything. We're always like, are we going to run into him? Like what would it be like to run into him? Just kind of bracing for the disappointment that he probably be like, hey, how you doing? And not be funny at all. Have you ever met him though? I've never met him. Yeah, I mean, neither. You never run into him in HBO, nothing like that. Nothing. Yeah, it's weird. Love to, but I'd be nervous. He's, I think he's tall. Like I think physically he's a little more imposing than maybe you'd realize most comedians are shorter. So you mentioned it was created for the Awai Jisho. Yeah. Turn in the movie. Most of the scenes were unscripted. The film's participants, which I think people know, but for the most part, there's only four actors in this movie. And nobody else knows what's happening. They would have to sign releases and things like that. And then he had that dictionary that is easy. But the legend of the movie shoot, the police were called on him 92 times. The FBI at one point followed him because they kept getting reports about a Middle Eastern man driving an ice cream truck through America. Yeah. And this was like height of post-911. Sure. The director, Todd Phillips, who's, you know, made most famously the Joker and the Joker sequel, but also did the hangover, all three hangovers and road trip. And I think he's one of the best comedy directors this century. Quit the movie after like 11 days, which I knew and forgot. But apparently after the rodeo scene, he's like, fuck this. Yeah. And he's like, what are you doing here? Like people are trying to kill us. I'm done. So the rodeo scene, he goes in, you know, he, he, he does like these crazy, jingoistic comments about Premier Bush drinking the blood of all the terrorists, which is really funny. And he like revs up all the rednecks and they're, hell yeah, we love you. And then sings the Kazakh national anthem to the tune of the Star Spangled Banner. And it's just like, all of the countries are run by little girls. And they're looking incredible. And then as they apparently, the people were like, I don't know, they're going to lynch them or something. I don't know what was going to happen. And they had to bail fast. And I think Todd Phillips is like, I got to bail. I'm out of here. Yeah. They said, they said there were some creative differences of them too. And I, there's a shocking lack of information for this, considering this is one of the most successful comedies of this century. Todd Phillips is famous. He quit the shoot. And it was really hard to figure out what happened. But one of the things from the research was that Azamat wasn't in the movie initially and it wasn't until after they, so they bring in Larry Charles, who's, I think probably most famous for Kubrick enthusiasm, like pretty famous comedy guy, but it's also been something of a fixer. Like he was pretty legendary for kind of saving on Teraj early on when they didn't know what they were going to be on the scenes. And then he comes in and saves this movie and becomes this triumphant thing. But yeah, Todd Phillips quits. And probably the right move. I mean, it was a huge hit that he walked away from, but he had a whole bunch of other movies too. And it's like, I don't know if the creative differences were like Sasha's going to die on this movie and I'm not because I mean, that might scare the crowd. But if you've been in that rodeo place, it's terrifying. There's like 3000 people. But I also, you mentioned, you mentioned this character. I just want, I love peeling back the curtain on our, on our text chain. I want people to know that all of the conversations we had about Borat leading up to this pod, Bill was all over Azamat. I can tell you're a huge Azamat fan, Bill. It's always Azamat. I'm number one for Azamat. Even when he goes away and he comes back and he's on Hollywood Boulevard as Chapman. And Borat thinks he's Hitler. He's this character actor. What was his name? Ken David. Ken David. I wrote down it's, it's, he's David Tyree. Okay. Like the miracle moment. Yeah. He is like, I have 32 career catches in my life and I've bounced around and my career was over almost immediately. But I had this one moment that is probably the greatest Super Bowl moment of all time. Unless you want to go Malcolm Butler. He was like this, the research, he was like one step lower than a character actor. Yeah. He's just like, I don't know, you're doing ER season five and he's in the ER room for with one line. Here's your stethoscope. Here it is. And the headline about Azamat, he's American. He's from LA. Right. He's like, he's doing an accent. He's speaking actually Armenian, which is not the same language that Sasha is speaking. I think she's speaking Hebrew. He's speaking Hebrew. So they're, they're back and forth. They're not even talking the same language. And there's this great audition story where they bring in Ken Davidian and he like just does this whole rant in Armenian and screams and screams and screams and leaves. And they're like, wow, that guy was pretty good. And then like five minutes later, he came back and he walked in and he goes, oh, hey guys, I forgot my hat. And they're like, holy shit. You're speaking English? You're American? Oh my God. You're the part. You're immediately. And that was like the legendary, that's him catching it over Rodney Harrison from Eli. Like that's the moment. No question. And just one of the all time weirdest bodies you've ever seen in a movie. I don't, I don't, did they cover up his dick? Did they need to? Because his belly was hanging over it. Like I have no idea how they, that is an all time. I don't know how they did that scene. All right. So do you want to get to that scene later or do we do it now? Let's do it now. Okay. First of all, you, Ozamot, you just said it perfectly. We've seen a lot of a heavy or obese people on screen. Fine. What is it about his that's so different? It's the strangest body has ever been on camera. He has these crazy like playboy looking breasts that look different from any other man's bare chest that I've ever seen. And then his, you never actually see his dick the whole time. Or pubic hair. Nothing. You see nothing. It's like a full marsupial, Kendall kangaroo. And then meanwhile it's so drought jarring because as they're fighting, Borat has blurred out. Yeah. So you're like, why is Borat getting blurred? And then they're not blurring as much, but I still can't see it. It's so weird. But you do get to see his balls dangling over. Yeah. You see those. Well, the other thing with him that I never knew this. So he's bouncing around as a character actor and he's also running this like garbage business basically in Malibu. He's like garbage collection, like sanitation. Yeah. And it's going, and he owned a couple of lunch places in LA too. So he's kind of like this hustler businessman. Sure. And then he gets this contract to do some sanitation stuff in Mexico city, goes down there and it's unclear what happens, but he gets cleaned out and has to declare bankruptcy, comes back, gives one more role at the acting thing and gets Borat. And then basically that if you look at his IMDB, he's done on this for 20 years basically, but this is nobody knows his name. He's the ultimate that guy. You just see him like, awesome. Awesome. But yeah. So he's, he secured a waste management contract in Mexico city. And then the research says his company was ill prepared, Davidian maintains he was victimized by a corrupt system, but it ended multinational litigation, trade arbitration and bankruptcy. Oh my gosh. Azamat. Come on, buddy. So, and you know what? I watched the first five minutes of the sequel and you're like, Oh, Azamat must have been so excited when they're making a sequel. Like, Holy shit, I'm back. And they, he Borat sits down in a leather chair and he gets up and realizes that they skinned Azamat and left his penis right on the top of the chair. So he's dead. So he doesn't even come back. But you finally see his dick. We also had this movie had six different lawsuits, which we'll get to later for people who were in it, which was pretty fun. I really loved the relationship of Azamat and Borat. I really enjoyed it. I don't, it's like a true buddy cop. It's the only thing I can think of that somewhere to it is coming to America with Eddie and Arsenio, like just like the lead guy with his like assistant dude, and they just have this whole shorthand and the little, the, the assistants there to serve the other guy, but there's like a little tension too. It's just really good. The assistants trying to get laid on the side too. And they're trying to make a buck a little bit. It is great. And they, their chemistry is awesome in it. And even though you never hear them speak English to each other, we never see Ken Davidian again. Oscar nominated for best screenplay. Yeah. Won a golden globe for best comedy. I have some Oscar stuff coming later. This movie is 84 minutes. Beautiful. Craig's not here today, but this is a minus 16 on the Horal Beck scale. I think this might be the record. I don't know if we've done a movie that's been 84 minutes. This might be the first one. We did like just one of the guys that is about 20 seconds long and it's still longer than this movie. Man, I don't care. It could be even shorter. You just don't see 84 minute movies. 18 million dollar budget. Yep. It made 262.5 million dollars and spawned a sequel. Roger Ebert could not find a review. No way. Yeah. I think Raj sat this one out. I think he probably would have liked it. Yeah. I mean it's hilarious. Somebody wrote a review, but it didn't say Mike. It was him. We don't know how it feels. We're going to take a break, come back and go through a slew of rewatchable scenes. This episode is brought to you by Zippercruiter. 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And then it goes back to Irk in the town rapist. And he's saying goodbye to him. He's like, just only humans. I'm just like trying to, and I could like barely do a straight line, but I like meeting the mechanic and the town abortionist. His sister's the number four prostitute. We're just off. We're like, Hey, we're crossing the line. Get ready. We're just going to be doing jokes for 84 minutes. Buckle up. Borat in New York. You mentioned that the tiktok has basically ruined this. But, but I think my favorite is when the two ladies are walking to the thing. It's like, very nice. How much? Very nice. How much is a great one. My, my fucking hero is the most New York asshole guy all the time. When, when Borat gets in his face and he goes, if you, if you try to kiss me, I'll pop you in the fucking balls. And like that guy, like comes down from Westchester. He's a banker. He does cold plunge. He plays squash. He like drives it like a really nice BMW. And he's not about to get touched on the fucking street. I'll pop you in the balls. He's definitely on dinner with Shrager at Lugers. Well, they don't take credit cards cash only. I'll take you. It's great. That guy sued the movie because he was upset at how he was portrayed. Disagree. I think he, I think he came off great. I would have been excited. Yeah. I think know what he's doing. I mean, I have him down at very possible Dion Waiters category with one line. I like him so much. I have a Pat Haggerty, the humor coach. Yeah. The suit is black. No. Um, but the below story just absolutely kills me. And the first time I saw this movie, I, I think I saw it with Jack O and house. Okay. They were here for, um, I didn't see this movie in the theater. I don't think I don't remember why. Um, but we watched this and below fucking killed us. And we made below jokes for like a year after that. You never get this. And then one day he gets that. So I'm ashamed to say that, uh, this has been a running joke at my house for, I love this. My kids. Yeah. Just me talking to my son. He's like, are we going to go? You would never get this. It's the only borat joke I, I do. I don't know why it makes me laugh, but, um, So what is it when he asked for like, can I get a PS five or something? Or can we have pizza for dinner? And you, that's when it comes up. Yeah. Yeah. Can we go, are you going to take me to the Cooper game? I can't. I'm going with somebody. You would never get this. But they put him with Pat Hagerty, who appears to be the least funny person ever put on camera to teach him comedy. And he tells a story about his special needs brother breaking out of the cage to rape his sister and then gets a high five from Pat about the story. Pat, Pat's realizing in real time, oh God, they're filming this. Yes. And then he's like, you know what we need to teach this, this visitor to our country. Let's do 2006 not jokes. Yeah. Which is 13 years, I think after Wayne's world, no one was making not jokes. And then, and then Sasha Baron just butchers it by fucking it up over and over. It's so good. Did you see there's a wide shot of the chalkboard where he has all these things written down. One side that has some of the darkest shit that I guess he was going to go through with Borat. I don't know if Pat Hagerty did that or the directors did that. Yeah. It's all, it's like the darkest and molestation, sexual, all this shit. I got to think that maybe the directors did that because Hagerty is like, stupid blazer with gold buttons. Like he's going to a piano recital. He's going to teach comedy. That's a great scene. Borat watching TV, which is the second time I almost fell off the treadmill because it kills me when he's flicking channels and married with children comes out. And Al Bundy makes like some joke and Borat's like, hahaha. All right. We're so, we're so in lockstep. I have this for what stays the best. Dude, good old fashioned hotel channel surfing, posted up on your bed. You got room service coming. You ordered a chicken quesadilla. He flicks through cops, married with children, a quick jingle all the way with our guy Arnold and Jake Lloyd and then Baywatch. And it's like, fuck, I wish I could go back and just channel surf because Baywatch will go to commercial. Then you go back to married with children and then you go back to a little bit of jingle all the way. He's so happy and so am I. Yeah, I'm so like, be careful CJ. That's it. This, this movie has so many good like 27 second moments. And then at the feminist meeting when he, when he, it fades away from the dialogue and he goes, I could not concentrate with the old man was saying, uh, lot of great. Driving instructions. Funny. Borat crashing channel 16. First of all, hold on. How about in the feminist meeting where he goes, Hey pussy cat, give me a smile. What's the matter baby? Why some of these feminist women are dead serious about shit. And he's pussy cat and baby in them killed me in the theater. And then everybody laughed when he said, I had no idea what this old man was saying. Everybody laughed. It's mean, but they laughed. Anyway, yes, go. Driving instruction, uh, Borat on channel 16. The weather man kills me in this. Love it. Worst of all time. He's the only one who really fully understands how funny this is. He's just like, get, can barely do the weather. Um, we mentioned the Kruger, valley, valley, dale, imperial rodeo, whatever it's called. Um, don't sleep on how great. I don't know if he's the head of the rodeo or the director of the rodeo, but, uh, one of the one minute all time, uh, whatever he is, he checks, he's crossing lines. Oh, the guy about that's what we're trying to get done here. He gives the high five and all the N and he talks about the gaze. I love that he's talking about the gaze and he's wearing like a yellow bandana thing. Bandana around his neck, like some sort of scarf with his cowboy hat and his spurs. What is he talking about? I also love the crowd shots as he's, as he's getting them riled up before the song. And it's like the third time it cuts to the crowd and he's like, we'll drink the terrorist blood. And there's one guy in the crowd is like, yeah, but he's like completely genuine. So that nothing will live on their soil, but the lizard. Hell yeah. Yeah. It's so funny just to watch the crowd. Um, how do you think though, I was going to do this in an answer, but how do you think the horse fell over? It felt like that was a legitimate thing. I think that's a random coincidence where maybe it was like a miracle. Yeah. And then they cut right after it falls because it's a, it's like, I just think it happened because I remember the TV ads. The horse falling was like Borat coming, you know, Monday or whatever. But the horse falling, it was almost like, what is this movie? It was just a miracle. And I think Todd Phillips left right after the horse fell. I, I have to like, there's so much respect you have to give to their producers and all the people doing work. When they get the announcer to do that, please welcome Borat Seghdea from Kazakhstan. Like it's so staged and set up and they obviously had a conversation about how to, and then he put there in his dumb walk. It's all set up so well, even before he starts singing. It's so, it's just so well done. It's the only time he seems a little nervous. Hell yeah, he seems nervous. His voice is definitely like not a hundred percent. Yeah. The, the Jewish Airbnb or wherever, the better breakfast that he's at. I think this is my favorite scene. I think this is the most rewatchable for me. I don't know why. I think it's like a perfectly constructed comedy scene. And we should mention Sasha Barakone is Jewish. Yes. And so a lot of the Jewish stuff he's doing in this, it's pretty funny that he's flipping around, but just him going in there and then she was like, what do you mean Jewish? And she's like, well, we're Jewish. And all of a sudden, like the Halloween music comes in and they're looking around the, the shifting the shapes, them busting out of there, like they're at the end of Django and chain. And like every piece of that, I think is just like a perfect comedy scene. See, this is a referendum on the viewer on me. That to me is almost the P break scene. And I'll tell you why. Oh, I went here. I feel so bad for those people. I'm getting old and I'm getting soft and like those two people are so nice and they're like, here's your sandwich, here's your bed, you want another pillow. Welcome. These are my paintings. Wow. And he's calling them a devil and throwing money at them. This is like, I know that's the joke and I know where he's coming from, but like I, I get soft at those people are so fucking nice. The only people, the only people I feel bad for this movie are the feminists, the old man when he makes the old man joke, just her watching that after, but the one who takes the biggest, the next scene is the Southern Manor diner dinner. Come on, let's go. When he says, there's three wives, he's like, you too in my country. Not so much. It's just absolute drive by shooting at that poor lady. And her husband's sitting there. Yeah. I was wondering if they should have cut that. It's the far the meanest moment in the movie and a movie that's pretty mean. They go crazy for you too. And then pause. You're not so much. Holy shit. That's brutal. So that has, it has the retired, retarded where he's keeps getting confused by the guy. Yep. Is it physical or mental? Mental. And then he goes, it's very nice. You let someone at table with retardation. He's like, no, no, no, no, it's not what that's that's all the show stuff does all the time. But the poop in the bag is one of the craziest moments. I think in a comedy, it's unbelievable. I always forget how unbelievable it is. A lot of unanswerable questions about was that was that actually his poop that he pooped in a bag? Did they get poop from outside? What happened? The lady's reaction is unbelievable. She's just like, oh, like she doesn't, I don't, then you put yourself in the shoes of like, what would I do if this happened? By the way, what do you do with the poop bag? You just take it and put it like in your street garbage cans because you can't like empty it in the toilet and you can't flush the bag. I guess you just take it to the street like it's dog poop, right? I wish I wish Sasha was here. We could just ask him like, so the poop. Yeah. It ended up happening. Yeah. Did you pour it in the toilet and then throw the bag away? That moment was so big that in the, I think it was at the end of the Sopranos run with Sopranos, the best show and biggest show in the world. Remember, like AJ gets really depressed and he ends up with the suicide attempts. Meadow comes in is like, oh my God, did you see Borat when he brings the poop to the table? It's so funny. And then AJ is like, it wasn't fair to the people involved. They were trapped and like, there was a whole conversation about that shit scene in the Sopranos. About how funny it is and Meadow's right. Sopranos, by the way, probably the other funniest thing going on in 2006. Because that was when Polly Walnuts was really going to another level. That was when we had the Vito blowing the guy. Johnny Cakes. No, when the guy Meadow's boyfriend's telling the story. No, Vito was actually blowing the other guy and Paul's like, what? Son of a bitch. And Tony just walks away. What's the discuss? He's got to go. They're going to kill him because of that. I mean, that's Johnny Cakes storylines. One of the best storylines ever. The naked fight we talked about. The giant blackout for Borat's cock was just such a great idea. It's like a foot and a half. So I had a question about that. Like, if Sasha's all in, like why did they blur it? Did they blur it to make a joke because Borat's penis is bigger? Yeah, I think it's a. I think it's a his dick is so big. We had to do this giant. His. But he's also like producing the movie. So maybe he's trying to. You know, trying to make it bigger. Sasha is just fully visibly naked the whole time and you just see it. I think I'm better with this version. I mean, it's hard to, I mean, it's so good. I think he just leave it as it is. But I had that under picking nits. I'm like, why? Well, that's a half measure. Let's see it. Let's why we blur in things. But I think you might be right. I think it's a long time comedy scene. The only reason it's not most rewatchable in the movie for me is Azamut's. That there's like 10 seconds here that it's among the most disgusting things that have ever been in a movie. Yep. Like Azamut's at one point he's like spreading. Yes. It's like actual bull and balls. They fight. Then they go to like a doggy style position. Yeah. And then they get into 69 where his balls are on Borat's face. Azamut sits down on his face like Yokozuna. Yeah. And that is when it's the most disgusting by far. It's really horrifying. This is when they won the Golden Globe and Sasha gets up there and he tells the story of that scene in his acceptance speech. And he says, my choice was either death or to breathe in the air that had been trapped in a small pocket beneath his buttocks for 30 years. If not for that rancid bubble, I would not be here today and everyone goes crazy at the Golden Globes and it's perfect. I did see this in the movie theater because I definitely saw that scene in the theater. That's the one you remember. I just remember when I watched it with Jack O and that's what it was. Jack O, one of them hadn't seen it or both of them hadn't seen it. And so I was reliving it through them. But I definitely saw that in the theater. And then before they even get to the elevator and then the one guy standing in the elevator who won't look at the camera and won't leave, laugh out loud, hilarious. And then they go into the stupid realtors conference and are fighting and getting tackled. It keeps going. People screaming. I was screaming. The elevator scene. Couldn't tell if that was rigged or not. Which part? When they get in the elevator with all those people. The people underreacted a little bit. Yeah. It's like, I just feel like I would be way more horrified if two naked guys came in an elevator with me. And there's women in there. Yeah. There's a dude in there. The elevator part I can't speak to. There's stuff out there about the realtors conference where that was like the third time that they did that in a different conference room because in the first two times, like no one did anything. They just sat there and didn't really react. Sometimes people in those conferences are just so comatose and laconic. They just don't react. But finally they got up and tackled them and all that shit. And that's the one thing, but they had to do that shit three times. Pamela Anderson scene. Yep. Apparently she knew she was in on it, but the bodyguards weren't. So they actually tackle him and do the whole thing. Him trying to bag her is hilarious. Absolutely. I don't know how you come up with that. Oh, I jumped ahead. Pamela Anderson. There's two more before that. I got my, the frack eyes in the van. Infamous scene. Infamous scene. We hit the slavery, misogyny and his semitism trifecta. Somebody says at one point, our country, the minorities have more power. They put in the Pam tape and they're trying to explain him. She's no virgin borat. He's like, no, what do you mean? They keep calling him Boris. And then at the end, the, the one of the drunk guys says, do not let a woman ever, ever make you who you are. I can't decide if that was great advice or incoherent. That's the coach spin stock award. Do not let a woman ever, ever make you who you are. What does that even mean? I think you do whatever she says and you follow her around with some sort of antiquated bullshit like that. Guys drunk as hell. Jack and Daniel. Guys are hammered. The one guy, the guy in the middle is about as hammered as you can be on camera. The one who says I call people and then I have sex with them and I don't call them back. Yeah. Or it's like, you don't call them because they don't have a phone, right? And he's like, no, no, no. That's because of my respect. That was like a, that was a big talking point. That's, I feel like that was like, would have been on the view and all that. And these kids quote unquote, were they victimized? And I watched it now this, this time back ready to be like, do I feel defensive of, not at all. Those kids are fucking idiots. I was in a fraternity. I was a president of a fraternity. Those guys are adults. There's a big ass camera filming them. They know they're on camera. It was just like, I, I didn't feel any protectiveness at all. Those idiots at all. Couldn't agree more. Then Borac gets cleansed in the church. That was the last one. That was the best. And then the Pamela thing. So what do you have for most of the watchable? It's between the dinner scene and the naked fight. The naked fight is the most memorable scene, but I actually think the dinner scene is the most Sasha Baron Cohen scene that you could possibly do with the talk and the shitting and then not so much you. So I also, I don't think I need to rewatch as a mat that much, like once a year. I'll make it as, I think it's a dinner table scene for me. I have a, I don't know, I don't know. I have a, I like the, the Jewish air BNB right in the Southern manors dinner is my favorite stretch of the movie. That's excellent. What's the most 2006 thing about this movie? Uh, pre-social media mid 2000s Muslim resentment and said high gear and they're tapping into that. Um, I think that's very specific. They are the Pam Anderson tape, like a little bit of a nostalgia. It's been 10 years since it happened. Um, she's been kind of like six, seven years out of the limelight. Everything with her feel like 2006 is the perfect spot to do all that. Um, Pam having an autograph line and not a selfie line feels very 2006. At a virgin mega store. Yeah. At a virgin mega store. And I got it. Listen, I got to say, I had a very close relationship with the Pamela tape. Like that got me through college. I'm telling you it dropped right when I got into college and you would download like eight second clips of it from lime wire or something like that. And you just could not believe what you're saying, but we should do the Pam Anderson tape and the rewatchables. What are we doing that? Let's get in here. You, me and Van, we'll just do it. It really was 2001 a space odyssey for sex tapes. It was, it was the big bang theory. Um, the other one I have is the iPod mini where the neighbor that he hates in Kazakhstan. Um, that, that, uh, Borat has an iPad and this guy has an iPad mini. And he's pissed off about it. Like that. So 2006. Are you talking about a new suit on truly out by talking about him. So they're sitting in the writer's room. All right, guys, we have a comedy classic. We got to stick the landing our last joke of the movie. What's it going to be? Let's make an iPod mini joke, not even an iPod joke in the greater iPod expanded universe, a joke within a joke. Everybody know that for girls. They're like, I think that's the most 2006 thing. The iPod mini closer, the walkoff. Uh, the Floyd gondola butter in my ass and lollipops in my mouth, the word for something I just enjoy. What do you have? What do you have? I had channel surfing in a hotel room by yourself with room service and just jumping around and seeing dumb TV shows. I had a comedy that takes place in really low budget local news TV. Um, this has been a huge resurgence for that whole industry with Instagram and Instagram reels. And the amount of funny things that happen on these weird, these things that are being broadcast in Jacksonville, Mississippi, or like Akron, Ohio, these places where they're the best, um, you don't realize how much comedy comes out of this. All these weird people, they're either at the beginning of their careers or the end of their careers. There's never anyone in the middle and just weird shit happens. So I was glad that some of my favorite clips, local news bloopers. There's one of them where the lady says coming up, uh, he climbed Mount Everest, but he's gay. I mean, he's blind. Excuse me. She messes it up. And it's like my wife and I watch that and laugh every single time. It's, it's for everyone. All ages can laugh at local news bloopers. And it's that, that news station they go to is Jackson, Mississippi, media market 99. Yeah. He just stands up in the middle of the interview. And when we start, can I have a microphone? We are live. So yeah. The guy's doing weather for kazoo city or whatever the fuck, whatever the fuck there. Um, what's aged the best? What do you got? Um, what's aged the best? I have, um, just, we, we've kind of covered them. Pre smartphone public fuckery where nobody's tweeting the borats out. I remember when I was a sophomore in college, Tom green came to campus. Tom green was like, was starting to do a show on HBO or an MTV. And like everyone was just talking about it. It's spread like this room. We're like, Oh my God, Tom greens here, Tom greens and everyone ran to go and find him, but we weren't tweeting about it. No camera phones. It was nothing and watching this guy at the rodeo in New York city and all anybody has in their hands is a beer. It's awesome. And I miss it. I have a, you will never get this saying in real life. I have kid rock divorcing P. M. Anderson after he saw this movie being madder. What is this? I heard about this. Um, he said, uh, he just reacted very favorably and there's, um, thought she was said some bad words. Good for her though. Get away from kid rock. He kind of thinks that she was a virgin like Bora kid rock. Have you ever seen Pam Anderson? Kazakhstan in 2020 changed their travel slogan to very nice. So congrats to them. The language section of the DVD. If you choose Hebrew funny stuff happens, I would encourage that if you have it. And then, uh, you mentioned how they filmed it three times. The, uh, the naked running into the conference scene. The first time was an engineering lecture in Dallas and nobody really reacted. I almost could, that could almost be like a mini documentary to me. How do you not react to that? I don't know. If two naked guys running in your conference and people are like, oh, that's weird. What the fuck? Um, my number one, what's age the best though? Yeah. I wrote down eight random lines that just make me laugh. Just like throwaway lines, which is the key to this movie. All right. All right. I mentioned one already. Erkan not too much raping humans only. Um, one of the ones that almost made me find that, uh, fall off the treadmill when they're, he's buying the car. The car scene is great. We didn't even talk about that. And he's doing the price and he goes, how about 85? It spits on his hand for the handshake. You guys, I said 117. Why don't we call it 85? No, let's call it 117. It's great. Um, when Azamat is cleaning him and he, and he turns around and he goes, how's my back pussy? Her, her vagine hang like sleeve of wizard. Unbelievable. Then he talks about when he was with the guys from the parade and he goes, even though my endos was broken, it just like throwaway start to a monologue of a new part. Azamat, when they're in the silver war store after he breaks the stuff and they're trying to negotiate. Azamat goes, have you offered the pubic hair? Which he had already offered making romance explosion on her stomach. Just that's thrown in there. But then when he's yelling at Azamat on Hollywood Boulevard and the grim reaper comes over, he goes, hey, fuck off death. Yes. Those were all like the random throwaways. They killed me. They killed me. Anyway, great shot, Gorda award, most cinematic shot, probably more at after getting touched by Jesus when he, they have the wide shot of him and he, he kind of rises up, but it's not like this is a crazily directed movie. What do you do? No, in fact, it's deliberately low fight. The one that really makes me laugh. It could be the cover of the movie. Azamat is like freshening up with a swamp and like splashing water all over his neck. And then they pan right and boros just pissing into the same water. It could be an album cover. It's so good. I love it. Great. Psychag. Chess Rockwell, Brocklanders word for best character name. Azamat Bagadoff. I got in the finals. I got Azamat Bagadoff and Nusutantuli Akbar. The finals. All right. We don't get to hand this category out very often. We got the Indiana Jones, ransom body odor award. So writer Dan Mazer said Sasha Baron Cohen lived in that mustache hair for a year in his life, wherever he went, he never changed because he thought Borat would smell. He was a Method actor. He only had that suit in that underwear the whole time and he reeked. Disgusting. Like driving through like the South, like there's sweaty parts. I can't even imagine how bad he smelled and think about all he does. Everything he does is so physical. He's always grabbing the people and touching them and wrestling and hugging them. And it's like, I don't, I think body odor is like way more disgusting than bad breath. Farts you name it. Body odor is fucking rancid. When I read that about his suit was never washed doing the deep South, like my mouth dried up. It's so gross, but it's also so perfect for Borat. So where would you put it on a scale of zero to Indiana Jones? It might be like a 9.8. Well, Indy's comes from his own like kind of skin and chest. Like he has, he's scantily clad Borat with that dense, thick, fibrous suit. I think it is, it's over a nine for sure. I'd rather smell Indy than smell Borat. I mean, Indy's in some really hot countries. He's like in the desert. We're in the same suit for like months. Fight the snakes. Kid Cuddy pursuit to happen is a word we can either go Steppenwolf's Born to Be Wild or MC Hammer can't touch this. I'll let you decide. The music in this movie is like a deliberately corny, foreigner's idea of American music. Don't sleep on the second they see Pamela. We hit the take my breath away. Right. It's like, I would say Born to Be Wild is probably the cheesiest road trip song you could ever come up with. So I would go with that. It's the generic, generic, generic question. All right, we're going to take a break. Come back with your flex category. All right, flex category. We got Cal Grant. All right. So we're on the same page, Bill, because I went with maybe my favorite name to category, which is the I used to fuck guys like you in prison award for the craziest line in the movie. Yeah. I you wrote down a few. I have three. These are the ones like when he does the narration, it's so well written because he starts talking normally. And then just as you think he's just going to give us narration, he sucker punches you right at the end. Like my hobbies ping pong, sun bath, disco dancing. And on weekends, I trail to capital city and watch ladies while they make a toilet like fucking crazy. And then he's like, I'm personally, by the way. All right. Number two, I arrive on America's airport with clothing, US dollars and a jar of gypsy tears to protect me from AIDS. It's that one. And then as the one you already said, which I'm saying to get to my favorite line in the movie, the only thing keeping me going was my dream of one day holding Pamela in my arms and then making romance explosion on her stomach. What romance explosion is going to be my fantasy team this year. It's going to be a fucking awesome. I watched this movie this week and I was texting my friends about romance explosion and it was all every ha ha ha ha ha ha. It's so good. Home run. The, uh, got two awards for the naked fight that he got game hooker scene for most awkward scene of someone randomly walks in the room. And honestly, not just cause you're here, the Steven Seagal hard to kill. Did this movie need a better intimacy coordinator? It might have. You don't really think about intimacy coordinators, you know, beyond just a normal sex scenes, but I think we might have needed somebody on set for this. Like don't put Osamah, don't put your asshole in Sasha Baron Cohen's face. Like he might actually get hepatitis. Question about that. I had done an answerable. Do you think that Osamah washed thoroughly before that scene? Like did he get down under there and like clean all that? Like professional courtesy? I sure hope so. Yeah. Because Borat is not washing. We just started. He's going to stink. So when Sasha is putting, how many times did they do that scene? He might have put his face in there 10 times. Is it like porn? Like I think in, remember like Becky Barnett and she's like, he's like, I'm going to go wash my vagina. You want to clean, don't you? Yeah. Like did, did Osamah say I'm going to go wash my grundle? Like you want it cleaned. I would hope that there was a washing that happened before that scene. Do you think this is the only podcast where somebody can seamlessly tie Becky Barnett and Osamah together and everyone listening will know what that means? I say yes. God damn right it is. I think it is. So that's why we're closing in on 500 episodes. That's right. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for weak link of the film. Honestly, the length, I wish this movie was 10 minutes longer. It's too short. It bothers me. I feel like there's two more scenes and I have an idea for a scene later, but I, I know it's a whole leave you wanting more, but I really feel like there's, you're on a road trip. You can literally go anywhere. You can give me any other two, three minute scene. I just feel like we're short. Well, we have it. The deleted scenes are funny. Yeah. Put them in, you know what? Six minutes. How about a clean 90 and you give us two more set pieces. Why 84? Who decided that? What do you have? The only time I remember the Butch's Girlfriend being the movie's too short. I think we said the same thing for Robocop, which is also really short. Yeah. I'm not going to get that out though. I'm back to the same thing with mine. The weak link of this movie is, is it really fucked up? Like, I know it's funny and I'm not being super serious about it, but in the power ranking of people that I feel the worst for, that, that etiquette lady who teaches him how to like be a gentleman at a dinner, she is this like apparently nice looking mother, grandmother, maybe so polite. This is the one who he breaks out the Polaroids with the kid and his just big old dick hanging out. Right. So it's one thing that lady has to see those pictures is disturbing. Bill, this movie was in every AMC, every Cineplex around the country, around most of the world. That woman in her life to this day is like, you looked at the cock pictures with that guy. Like that's humiliating for that woman. And it's not like the bigoted frat boys, fuck them and all the racists and anti-Semites. This is a nice woman teaching them how to have manners at the table. And if you really sit with it for a second, it's kind of fucked up. That's the weak link. Yeah. The lady at the manor's dinner takes the shot. The feminist. Yeah. There's a couple, couple of tough. What stage the worst? You mentioned this earlier, people doing Borat impressions after the movie. Yeah. The Wainsworld effect. So Wainsworld in the 90s that happened Borat in the 2000s. I'm not sure what the 2010s version is of the movie that immediately people began imitating and then kind of ruined the movie a little bit in a very long time. Well, everyone was definitely doing a lot of Anchorman in the 2000s and then maybe the Hangover or something like that. But the Borat one was the worst. And I had this for Apex Mountain. Did you think this is Apex Mountain for movies that set off like accent frenzies? You know, everyone like shout out to our movie Fargo. Everyone was going, oh, you betcha. Yeah. And any Arnold movie, everyone would do that. But like every person under the sun was saying hi five, my wife. It was annoying. Yeah. Borat says the N word in this movie. That's also in the worst. Ruffalo Han Rubinick Partridge Overacting Award. I don't know. It's a documentary. I got a question mark. Yeah, I didn't have one either. I did have one. I did have one age the worst though. You're going to. Yeah. I wish Craig was here because he would relate to this. Watching porn with your boys. They're on that motor home and they just throw on a DVD of porn and they're just like sitting around drinking and watching it. I don't think this generation does that or would get it. It was a thing back in the day. Yeah. You would have a videotape and seven of your friends would just sit around watching porn together and laughing at it. And that's why, because the porn was so fucking funny back then. Yeah. And the seventies and eighties stuff was, you'd watch it. And just as like you're watching a movie. Good what's age. So that might be at what stage the best. That's true. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harris support hottest take award. I, I'd like to test drive Sasha Baron Cohen is in the best actor race in 07. Oh, what do you got? Let's go. Forrest Whitaker wins for last king of Scotland. Yeah. Leo and blood diamond. Ryan Gosling half Nelson. Peter O'Toole and Venus and Will Smith and the pursuit of happiness. I'm bumping Peter O'Toole. That was an old man award that he got nominated. We're putting Sasha Baron Cohen in there. Once again, we've talked about this all month. The Academy does not respect comedies. There's no way him and Borat was not one of the five best performances in 2006. So I think he should be in there. I don't love Leo there either. And the accents ridiculous and blood diamond. We know that it's, it's, you laugh at it when you watch it. He's done much better roles. He does romance. I don't know. I mean, that bang, bang, bling, bling. What is Leo doing there, dude? I love better roles for Leo. But I think it would have been worth him winning it just for the speech that he would have given at the Oscars. Cause he did the close-up. Oh my God. That's another reason. Just it gets them to the Oscars. Best actor in a supporting role. I don't know if you want to test drive Osamot here, but of course I do. Let's start it off. Alan Arkham wins for a little Miss Sunshine, Jackie Earl Haley, little children, Demon Hunsu for blood diamond, Eddie Murphy, dream girls, Mark Wahlberg for the departed. I don't think there's room for Osamot, unfortunately. I'm happy those five. Yeah. Alan Arkham, fuck a lot of women in the little Miss Sunshine script. I like that role. What do you have for hottest take? All right. I'm going to choose this hot. My hottest take is I think we as a culture should go back to doing the kiss left, kiss right, reading. I'm kind of into it, Bill. I think it's quick left, right. It's crisp. It's kind of classy and debonair. You got to be secure with yourself. And honestly, in terms of germs and stuff, hands are a lot more disgusting than faces. We're touching everybody's hands all the time. I would just kiss, kiss. And I'm not even saying with your wife's friend that you know really. I'm talking about with your boys. You show up to a fantasy draft and just start knocking out left, right kisses. Isaiah and magic would do it. There's some kind of retro cool to it thing. That's my take. I think we should bring that back. You think COVID ruined it? I think it's back now. Our next pandemic is coming, but before it does, let's do a little kiss, kiss. And the best thing that Borat does occasionally, he'll push his luck. It'll go kiss, kiss and then down the middle on the lips. And only to men, never the women. It's so good. Casting what ifs there weren't really any except for Johnny Depp, George Clooney and Steve Martin all wanted to be in the movie because they loved Sasha Baron Cohen and he was like, no, thanks. Best that cat word, Ken Davidian. He became, I didn't even know who he was. Now he just became Asimot. Deanne Waiters, I could offer you Linel the prostitute, Borat's first wife, Oksana, drunk, South Carolina frat guy, Bilo. We didn't never saw Bilo, but I still feel like he's eligible. His presence looms. The gypsy estate sale lady, Pamela Anderson, and then the cute couple that own the Airbnb or whatever it's called. I think car salesman does his job and that he just lets Borat get every joke out. He starts the scene with, what does a car for a woman who is shaved down there? And he goes, well, that'd be a Corvette. That guy's totally game. But I think the minimal amount of work with the maximum impact is Borat's son, Huey Lewis, who is holding him in the photographs with just his full dick out. And then as if that wasn't enough, you go to the next picture and his Borat's face right next to the penis saying how proud he is of it. I think it's Huey Lewis the son. It's the best. I love the funniest things, how they spell it. They spell H-O-O-E-Y Lewis. It's all together too. Huey Lewis. Yes, yes, it is so good. What an homage to Huey Lewis. OK, recasting couch directors. Yeah. I have one here. It's a borderline nitpick too. And it ties into my theory that this movie should be longer. It's incredibly upsetting and I think a huge miss in the biggest flaw of this movie that we don't have a Vegas scene. OK, it's just fucking sitting there. We're driving. We're driving east to west. We're coming up from Texas toward California. It's a no brainer. We could have some sort of Borat gambling scene. You're so right. We get to tie into like the weird casino world, him trying to figure out what's happening, him doing something funny at Strip Club could be in there. Blackjack roulette. I just feel like it's the easiest six minutes they ever could have had. It really bumps me out. Dude, that's like if you just sit him at a blackjack table and he just had him start touching the cards, like it would be chaos immediately. Like grabbing chips from other people. Yeah. It's just. You know what he would do? He would take out his bag of pubic hair and like try to put that to double down. And then the pit boss would come over. That's dude, that's a great idea. How did it at the roulette? Him betting on some crazy number because it reminds him of and something truly offensive from his family. And I don't know. There's just so many ways to go in a casino. The buffets, the pool. You could do the mankini at the pool. Yeah. Put Osamod in like the topless pool at the win. That the whole movie could be Vegas. Honestly, that could have been the sequel. Yeah. Borat goes to Vegas. Really missed out. Have fast center research. We mentioned a bunch of this stuff. So you mentioned Huey Lewis. Yeah. Played by an adult porn star named Stoney. OK. Who was on the on the gay side of the porn. OK. Sixty movies, nearly 50 box covers nominated for a 2001 Gay Vian Award Best Newcomer. What are you doing the work? Yeah. The AVN. There's a Gay Vian Award. Is that is that what I heard? The Gay Vian. Not televised. I don't know if I don't know if ESPN Plus has been looking at it. I know they love. I'll ask my new coworkers. Yeah. Tell them there's some live content available. I will. I will. After Borat, Stoney becomes a trans porn star named Brittany Cox. And it's called COX Capital Second X Lowercase Third X. I like it. So that's all my research on Huey Lewis. I'm proud of you. You did the work. That's great. DVD includes several deleted scenes. We talked about some of them. One of them was getting a massage at a hotel. Great. Another was visiting an animal shelter to adopt a dog that can protect him from Jews. That sounded funny. Like when we go back to the 10 minutes, there's a couple. And then we mentioned that porn scene one. And then people that sued the movie and lost the two frat brothers. A guy in the subway when the chicken got released on the subway. The Baltimore driving instructor wanted a hundred thousand damages. Didn't get it. The getaway Shragers buddy from Peter Luger steakhouse. Pop you in the fucking balls. Yeah. He didn't get it. Everybody lost who tried to sue them. The guy, Dan Mazer, said that they had somebody who used to be public enemies lawyer who was semi-retired, who was just crushing every suit. Yeah. That was there. Exactly what to do. Yeah. What happened with that driving instructor at the end of the scene in Borat? It's like, are you my friend? He's like, yes, I'm your friend. Do you like me? I said, like, will you be my boyfriend? The guy goes, no, I'm not. Well, yeah. All right. I could be your boyfriend. And then the scene cuts. Like, what was that? Was he trying to take a run at Borat or something? I don't know. Maybe that's why he sued. He didn't like that. I think it might have been. Yeah. Because he was pretty cool the rest of the scene. And then immediately he's like, yeah, I'll be your boyfriend. Holy shit. What are they going to get it on? That's so weird. Did I say that? Yeah. The news producer of the Jackson, Mississippi show claimed afterwards that Borat's appearance led to her losing her job. Well, I hope not. I hate to hear it. And then Todd Phillips leaves. This is just random. Todd Phillips, they shoot for 11 days. Todd Phillips leaves because they created differences. They're trying to figure out how to add some stuff. Sasha Baron Cohen's playing basketball, Gary Shanling's house, has some sort of thing and breaks his foot. And now is out for another eight to 10 weeks. So they filmed the movie and had to stop for like basically three months because the director and then because somehow a Gary Shanling's house, which by all accounts was not the most heated basketball game every week. Yeah. I want to hear what's the run like there. I've never heard of the Gary Shanling game. I mean, I know some of the people that played in that game and I don't think it was exactly super competitive. So somehow he broke his foot anyway and then they found their Charles. Yeah. Back in my day, I used to do some games. I used to play some games with people you know, I used to go to a Mike Toland game. Oh, yeah. I would go to a Brian Robbins game. Yeah. That's why it's great. They had a good game. But I never did the Gary Shanling. Holy shit. That's cool. Lot of lot of comedians going half-shoot. Yeah. Yeah. Apex Mountain. Sasha Baron Cohen is a yes. I think this is the biggest he's ever been after this movie. Huge. He signed whatever he wanted to do after this. Yeah. I said the movie gets shown up in the Sopranos. He's everywhere. He breaks character for the wins the Golden Globe. Definitely. Pussy Magnets. Apex Mountain. I think it has to be. There's not an actual magnet. They just mean the car. Yeah. Oh, that's okay. I still want it. Can you install Pussy? If I give you money? That's such a great bit. Sketch comedy movies. Is it better than Wayne's World? I love Wayne's World, but it's close. I have to think about that. Maybe it's the 2000s version of Wayne's World. Ken Davidian, definitely. Yep. Socks full of shit. I'm going to say yes. Virgin Store book, Autograph Assaults, I'm going to say yes. The Hotel Wellington, yes. Lunel, who played the prostitute and then has bounced around on some other stuff, but this is probably the peak, I'm guessing. I have a knit to pick with Lunel. They should have cast a real prostitute. I don't like that they cast an actor for that. I remember when I saw the movie, I recognized her because she had been in some things. I was like, what the hell? Just get a real prostitute. It takes me out of it. The more real actors they have, the worse it gets. I don't think they should have done that. It's good to know. Potassium exporters. The best in the world, Kazakhstan, yes. Shapeshifting cockroaches. I'm going to say they apex that one. Pamela Anderson, no. And then Naked Brawls, 100%. I have male nudity in movies. Is that it? And I will give you Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Jason Segal, Full Frontal. They brought it back in that too. Eastern Promises, Vigo Mortensen in the Bath House. Jackass had a lot of nudities, but that's not the same. And then the Boogie Nights male nudity was fake at the end. I think it's apex for male nudity in a non-porn movie. Interesting. I can't think of a better one unless it's just Jason Segal just standing there with his big penis. Trying to think of what else. I didn't prep. And thank God I didn't because Google search should be. You were doing the capital X, lower X, whatever the hell. I'm already getting in trouble for Stoney. My research on his 2001 gave you a cruise or a Hanks. I think Hanks probably has a better chance of pulling up Borat, but I think cruises would be funnier. What if he was in the Les Grossman fat suit as a mat? He probably could have done that. I think to be cruised, you would have to take some of that Frank T.J. Mackie sexual or energy. And you'd be like, respect the cock high five. And then he does his dumb accent from far and away. Like he would take a lot of work to get cruise there. And Hanks kind of has the hair and the mustache and the suit. Yeah. He's basically doing the kid from big with an accent. Yeah. Scorsese or Spielberg. What do you think, bud? Tough one. I'm going to probably say Scorsese for this one. Yeah. And you would get to see Borat on cocaine, which I'm always into. Yeah, Borat Trice Trice. And they could have done it in Vegas. Yeah. Picket knits. Who was the cameraman the whole time? At one point, the cameraman gets nailed in the naked fight. He takes, Osamod runs the camera guy into him. So somebody's holding the camera. Who was it? I don't know. The time I'm in the road trip, we're in DC. We go to Mississippi for the 2016 thing. And then we go backwards to Virginia for the rodeo. Mm-hmm. It's at a sequence. It should have gone DC, Virginia, Mississippi. Remember also when they leave Kazakhstan, they do the Indiana Jones map thing, and they do like six loops throughout Europe. Yeah. I'm not sure their navigation is pristine. Yeah. That's a good point. And then I think the bear is kind of ridiculous. That would be my one. It's not a weakest link, but it just does. It's just weird. I don't care. I don't bet the bear. I don't care. I don't bet the bear. They got a big laugh in the theater when the bear growls at the kids and they scream. I'm just here for awkward moments with Bora. I don't care about the bear and the ice cream truck that much. They had to make a movie, I get it, but that's not my favorite part. Any other pick and nits? I just said, don't these handlers have any kind of better awareness that they're being absolutely hoodwinked when they agree to have Alan Keyes sit down for an interview or they agree to- I know. A pop bar. Any of those people, those are major politicians. And I know that they're really slick with how they pitch it and they have fake production companies and stuff, but at one point when you're sitting with Alan Keyes and you talk about like a rubber fist going up your anus from- Like at one point it was like, holy shit, stop this. How does it get to that? Yeah. I mean, that's probably what happens. We just- And are they so mad? Like is Alan Keyes fucking firing somebody about that? Probably. Yeah, I'd be mad. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TV, all black cast are untouchable. They did a sequel. So we have our answer for that. Okay. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flora, Zane Lowe, Robert Evans, or somebody else? What do you think, Kyle Brant? You know what I'd really like to do? I'd like to take the guy at the church to let that tongue go guy who puts the hands- And I'd like him to just do a rundown on all the rewatchables hosts and just get the shit out of them and just say, Sean Fantasy, do you really need all that physical media bullshit? Let that tongue go. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, do you really need K-19, the Widowmaker, and 4K? Craig Horbeck, do you not need a four-hour version of the Dark Knight? Let that tongue go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Bill Symmons, you watch Lord of the Rings every Christmas, blah, blah, blah, blah, tongue go. That's about what? We gotta add that guy to the list with Zane and everybody. What was that guy saying? Let that tongue go guy. I don't know what his name is. Let that tongue go guy from Borat. Ben Lathen, do you really not attract it to white women? Let that tongue go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, That guy steals the show. I want him to do all of you. That sounds great. I actually had one for this. What do you got? I mean, this is really going to appeal to all of your bones. Oh, let's go. What if naked Borat and naked Azamat crashed the 1993 International Association of Cardiologist Conference in Chicago as Dr. Charles Nichols was speaking? And Dr. Charles Nichols said, Ladies and gentlemen, my friend Borat Sagadav doesn't feel well. We just kind of worked that in. There he goes. I'm sorry Azamat, I'm in the middle of this speech. Oh my gosh. And then Borat. Did you kill my wife too? Huh? Did you? You falsified the research. So you could give them pro-vastic. You switch to the samples. Very nice. Oh my God, that's awesome. I remember when you guys, a couple of years ago, you guys did Fugitive in Chicago and you had invited me to attend it. I was so excited. You couldn't do it. I couldn't. My whole thing is I'm like, Bill, I just want to walk in from the back of the audience at the end of the pod and just do a full Kimball and walk up on stage and just do the whole thing about did you kill Shay Serrano too? Huh? Did you? And I just couldn't get there in time. Fuck, but that is a great inclusion of Dr. Charles Nichols. God, that's awesome. Just one Oscar who gets it, Screenplay? Or would you go Sasha Baron Cohen? No, fucking Sasha Baron Cohen. Best lead actor. Let's fuck it. Let's do it. Unanswerable questions. We actually did the ones I had for this about whether it was Sasha Baron Cohen's poop in a bag. Did you have any other ones? I did Azamat Wash's ballsack before the fight scene. I already asked it. Let's ask Ken Davidean right now. Ken? Ken. Ken. The secret handshake club memorabilia you'd want from this movie. What do you got? I was going to say the Mankini and I know that like I used to go to the beach in Santa Monica after this movie came out and there'd be guys wearing that thing just for laughs. But now, since we've been through the pod, I want the Polaroid of his son, Huey Lewis, and I want the one holding him up with his barrel of penis down there. Just spraining him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would want that whole package. With a red water panties. That's a great book. I like it. Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi word for best, worst life lesson. It's got to be that frack kid, right? What does he say? Don't let a woman define you. Yeah. Don't do not let a woman ever, ever make who you are. Yeah. I'm going to go with that. I have written down, I like you. I like sex. It's nice. That's all I got. Best double featured choice. I have best in show and then Borat in that order. Christopher guest first, then I go Borat. I think that's how it would have to go. I got Bruno. We haven't talked a lot about the Bruno movie. Yeah. Really liked it. Some amazing scenes. At one point Bruno visits like a psychic medium and he makes his Bruno's ex boyfriend who died appear and then Bruno does a full fallatio sequence with finish. Like it's really, really graphic and you're screaming again in the theater. I watched Bruno, which I thought it was not as good as Borat, but was still funny. Who won the movie Sasha Brancone? Sasha. Well, that was easy. Borat. It's so easy. By the way, we did this probably in almost exactly the amount of time of the movie. Yeah. And we have no Craig, right? No Craig. All right, Kyle, Brent, what do you got going on as we head into the summer here? Oh, well, I made my main voyage to Bristol, Connecticut last night. Bill, I'd never been there before, but I did these schedule release. I went to Bristol and it's by the way, it's bullshit. There's no mascots in the hallway. There's no, nobody's saying follow me to freedom. There's none of that shit. I thought that was going to be like, this is sports center. It's not like that at all. There's no Peyton, given Eli, Wett Willis, Charlie Steiner wasn't to be seen. But I'm now squarely in the ESPNFL network world and it's really fun. They got some games, right? And it felt like I work on a couple. Yeah. Yeah. They kept a couple and ESPN is a Super Bowl this year. And like, I'm doing all kinds of crazy shit, man. I'm running into people I've watched my whole life, Joe Buck and everybody on the daytime schedule. It's been awesome. And I really mean this. This sounds like I'm doing, everyone has been really nice, Bill. Everyone has been really nice. To which you say what? Just wait? No, I wouldn't say that. Good. Good. Everyone's been very nice. I'm glad. They have. The setup's great. Your earpiece only fell out 10 times, but now it's locked in. I showed that earpiece to his boss. I figured it out like 20 minutes in. The setup is good. We got Tony Kukos. How do you beat that? He looks great. All right. Thanks to Craig. Thanks to Gahal. Thanks to Eduardo. Thanks, Kyle Brandt. Great to see you. I will see you next month because I know we're going to do something for next month's from Hell month. Let's go. We got some ideas. So I know there's a couple of your favorites. All right. Good to see you, Kyle Brandt. Thank you. Thank you.