Summary
Danielle Fishel interviews Harry Jowsey, an Australian reality TV star turned actor, about his unconventional upbringing in rural Queensland, his journey through multiple dating shows, and his transition to scripted acting. The conversation covers his childhood rebelliousness, his father's recent passing, and his new Netflix dating show 'Let's Marry Harry' executive produced by Alex Cooper.
Insights
- Reality TV creates a bubble environment where participants become disconnected from real-world relationships and support systems, as evidenced by lack of support from Dancing with the Stars cast when Jowsey's father passed away
- Scripted acting offers more fulfillment than reality TV due to collaborative goal-setting and clear creative direction, contrasting with the unpredictability and producer-driven chaos of unscripted content
- Parental approach to religion and belief systems significantly impacts children's ability to think critically and form their own worldviews, as demonstrated by Jowsey's family's non-denominational approach
- Personal growth in dating and relationships requires intentional effort and planning rather than passive approaches, as Jowsey evolved from casual dating to thoughtful, pre-planned romantic gestures
- Grief and loss reveal authentic relationships and expose performative friendships, with simple text messages of support being more valuable than elaborate gestures during trauma
Trends
Reality TV talent transitioning to traditional scripted acting and film rolesDating show format evolution from competition-based to redemption/transformation narrativesWellness and biohacking peptides becoming mainstream among younger demographicsPodcast expansion as primary content distribution for entertainment personalitiesMental health and grief processing becoming normalized conversation topics in mainstream mediaReality TV cast dynamics and social hierarchies creating exclusionary bubble culturesExecutive producers from podcast industry (Alex Cooper) expanding into streaming televisionAuthenticity and vulnerability as competitive advantages in entertainment content
Topics
Reality TV to scripted acting transitionDating show format and production dynamicsParental influence on religious belief formationGrief and loss processingReality TV cast relationships and social dynamicsChildhood behavioral issues and school disciplineDating strategy and romantic planningCelebrity culture and parasocial relationshipsWellness peptides and biohackingDancing with the Stars experienceNetflix original content productionPodcast industry expansionAustralian rural upbringingFather-son relationshipsPersonal brand evolution
Companies
Netflix
Jowsey's new dating reality show 'Let's Marry Harry' is being produced for Netflix platform
iHeartRadio
Podcast network hosting Teen Beat show and 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards at South by Southwest
ABC
Network that aired The Bachelor season with Clayton Eckerd, mentioned in podcast advertisements
MTV
Network that aired 'Match Me If You Can' featuring Harry Jowsey
Unwell Network
Podcast network hosting Jowsey's podcast 'Boyfriend Material'
People
Harry Jowsey
Australian reality TV star and actor discussing his career evolution and personal life journey
Danielle Fishel
Host of Teen Beat podcast interviewing Harry Jowsey about his formative years and career
Alex Cooper
Call Her Daddy podcast host and executive producer of Netflix's 'Let's Marry Harry'
John Howard
Former Prime Minister of Australia who commented on Jowsey's family's religious controversy
Tom Cruise
Actor Jowsey met during Mission Impossible press run, known for sending annual cakes to collaborators
Glenn Powell
Actor who did Pilates with Jowsey, mentioned in context of Tom Cruise connection
Hilary Duff
Singer and actress featured in Jay Shetty's On Purpose podcast episode
Jay Shetty
Host of On Purpose podcast, featured in episode advertisements
Amanda Knox
Host of Doubt podcast about Lucy Letby case, featured in episode advertisements
Quotes
"I was a little shit. Growing up in central Queensland Australia in this small town called Yipoon... there was like bull riding class."
Harry Jowsey•Early in interview
"I think now that's when I'm thinking about having a family. It's like, oh, I kind of want to just have like a soft, this is what we believe in."
Harry Jowsey•Religion discussion
"I love acting because everyone has, I guess the main essence of it is it's someone's dream and their idea. And I love being a part of someone's dream."
Harry Jowsey•Acting vs reality TV discussion
"When my dad had passed, no one texted me apart from Sasha. And I was really close to them. No one had texted me."
Harry Jowsey•Dancing with the Stars reflection
"This is the hardest thing I've ever done. I can't be in this room. So I went outside and went and cried in a bush."
Harry Jowsey•Father's death discussion
Full Transcript
Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. You desire in family, like, this picture, and that's not reality. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life, and I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it, all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt, The Case of Lucy Let Be, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? How did this have been made to fit? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. that all right, but that's okay, cause no one here is. Teen Beat! Well, hello, Teeny Beaters. Nope, it's not it. It's still workshopping our names. We will get there at some point, I promise. But more importantly, in the meanwhile, this is Teen Beat with me, Danielle Fischel. It's a podcast where I invite interesting people to sit down and chat about their upbringings, the glorious and the awkward, all in an attempt to pay me back for the years I spent on television as a literal kid. It's an easy concept. I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours. And this week, I'm hanging out with a reality television superstar who's here not only to talk about his formative years, but this session will also double as a conduit between his generation and mine with the goal of making me cooler by the end of this episode. 28 years old, six foot five, this Queensland, Australia native burst onto the scene in 2018 as the standout star of New Zealand's hit reality dating show Heartbreak Island, leaving with a $100,000 prize and a newly recognizable name in branding. He then sidestepped the success onto 2021's British dating game show Too Hot to Handle and MTV's Match Me If You Can. A prime example of celebrity in the always changing media landscape of today, he continued to make the unscripted rounds from Floor is Lava to Amazing Race Australia to Perfect Match, eventually landing on the 32nd season of Dancing with the Stars, where he helped usher in a new era for the show, one that has continued to gain momentum ever since. Then he made the once impossible transition into traditional acting, appearing in last year's The Wrong Paris alongside Miranda Cosgrove and the upcoming Horrified with Ron Perlman, Busy Phillips and Jim Rash. And now he's about to raise the ante with his own reality dating show, Let's Marry Harry on Netflix, executive produced by Alex Cooper of Call Her Daddy fame with the goal of guiding the serial dater toward a committed long term relationship. He has his own podcast on the Unwell Network called Boyfriend Material, but today he's here on Teen Beat because I have to assume somewhere underneath this hot guy facade is an awkward, dorky teenager. You know what? It's probably not. It's probably always been cool. Anyway, welcome to the show, Harry Jowsey. That was the coolest intro I've ever had. Really? Yeah, the thing that sticks the most, reality TV superstar. Superstar. No one's ever said that. Really? It's usually reality TV star. Well. I've got the super now. Superstar. Yeah. Wow. It's like supermodel superstar. Also, you really did your research. Yeah. We're not just a fly-by-night operation here. You're doing it. This is iHeart. Yeah. This is the big thing. This is a serious building, as you called it. Wow. Yeah. That's so cool. I feel really official. You should. I feel cool. And you're very cool. You should. You should feel cool. Wow. What do I do now? It's so fun. Am I right? Have you always been cool? No, no, I was terrible. I was such a little, yeah, little sausage. Okay, I'm going to need some more explanation about that. What's a little sausage? I just feel like sausage is like a universal word and I just say it for everything. Okay. So what does it mean in terms of what you were like as a child, you little sausage? Can I swear? You sure can. Okay, cool. Because I was going to say I was a little shit. Okay, got it. Yeah. That makes sense to me A little sausage I need an explanation You say a little shit I get it Okay cool Yeah no I usually say sausage For like anything bad But yeah I was a little shit Growing up Like I was I grew up in central Queensland Australia In this small town Called Yipoon And the closest city Is Rockhampton Which is the beef capital Of Australia So Some might say The sausage capital The sausage capital Yeah A lot of meat Going around over there The funny thing is Like growing up In a place like that You know, in school, you have like different classes, right? Like New Zealand, when I went to school in New Zealand, there was rugby class. Where I grew up, there was like bull riding class. Wow. I never did it because I'm too tall to ride a bull. I didn't know there was a height requirement. I don't think so. Oh, you're just making that up. Just letting everyone know I'm tall. I love that. Again, I mentioned it in the intro. You did, but we need to lock that in. As many times as possible. Please, guys, 6'5". But yes, it's like bull riding class. And then one of my nephews, he grew up in Byron Bay and there's a surfing class, which is really cool. I don't know if they do that in America. Absolutely not. We should do it. No, there's bowling. I took bowling. Okay. Bowling? Bowling. Yeah, in college. Serious? Yeah, yeah. Seriously. I needed like a one unit class. Why did you do this? I needed a one unit class and I got to admit, I like bowling. I really do. So I thought. Were you good at it? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I can be. i was that semester wow yeah how do you get graded with that like how many you just show up really you just show up and you actually you know look at tell listen to the thing they tell you what all the dots mean and do we know yeah do you remember yeah i kind of remember you know it's like where the pins are and you know you you kind of determine your own so you want to keep your arm really straight and so depending on where the pins are out there you actually want to go the opposite direction like if you've got a pin to your right side you want to go more left than more right god uh yeah so anyway it's just technical yeah it's very technical but i want to i want to get back to being a little shit yeah okay yeah no i grew up uh i was just uh a very naughty kid growing up i think the first time i got suspended was in grade two oh for what i think i threw a desk at a teacher that's not a little thing i think it was that that's not i definitely did that at some point I thought you were going to say throwing a paper airplane. No. And then you said throwing a desk at a teacher. Should you be in jail? For sure. Oh, 100%. And I have been. You have. Oh, wow. I want this story too. No, I think I was, it was either a chair or a desk, but I was very little. It was my first ever memory of school. I didn't like the teacher, clearly. And then me and my friend, I think his name was Cody. We weren't too good together. We were both very naughty. It was Farnborough State School. very rural school and yeah it wasn't really going well at that doesn't seem like it no what had they done the teacher this terrible teacher I'm the worst teacher ever I'm definitely the victim I'm definitely I can see where this is going no I don't remember I just think I was just like a kid I was not very good at following rules but also like yeah we had a big problem with that school anyway so it was about time that we left but so it happened for a reason You were just trying to get your family out of there. Yeah, out of the trenches. No, to be honest, we did have a really bad running with them. So I grew up with my parents not wanting us to believe in any religion. Yep. So they had religion forcing them growing up. So they're like, when you guys are kids, we just want you to believe in whatever you want to believe in. And then when you turn 18, that's what we focus on. So like, you just do whatever you want. So back when I was at school, super young, religion, it was kind of mandatory. uh-huh like part of the curriculum yeah yeah so there was one class and i remember this one class where they're like oh you have to sing hymns and i was like oh my family doesn't want me to do that and i got kicked out of the class and this was i think this was before after i think this was before the desk operation okay so maybe they were trying to do more more desk stuff yeah maybe get me angry but so i i got kicked out of class and it turned into a whole thing in the news because I went outside and I was like, oh, what do I do? So I told my parents, like, how was school? It was terrible. I got kicked out of school because I didn't want to sing these hymns. And obviously my parents were like, well, you shouldn't be forced to do something that we don't believe in. So then, yeah, it ended up my, I think my parents wrote a letter to the headmaster and then it escalated, ended up in the news. We actually had to leave the country because we started getting stalked and we had all these Christmas cards flood our address, flood our address. And then horrible threats on us, like horrible, crazy threats on my mom. I remember this, and I shouldn't have read it, but I remember this one card said they were going to put dead rats in my mom. Like it was obviously a lot more detailed than that. I shouldn't have read it. But we ended up leaving the country, went to Bali, which is a pretty good place to escape to because it's beautiful. And I remember we came back and there's this news network called A Current Affair. And they were on our flight. They're like, yo, my mom was like, oh, I've seen you on TV. And the guy was like, she's like, why are you coming to Yipun? So go to interview the Jowzies. Like we want to get them on the news and tell their side of the story. My mom was like, oh, that's us. That's Harry. And then it turned into a whole thing. And I remember it was the first time I was on TV. Wow. Yeah, but we had the prime minister of Australia, John Howard. I think he spoke on it, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Well, not like good reasons. Like it wasn't easy to be proud of, but it was pretty wild. and then we got doxxed by the local news channel too. They came to our address. They literally just showed up and I remember because I was like, oh, dad, there's all these camera crews in our driveway and my dad just walked outside naked. He's like, f*** off. He's like, get out of here. He's pretty proud of what he's got. Yeah. That's scary. And they left and they said the jazzy's didn't want to be on camera and they panned to our address and the number and where it was. So I think that was before we left. So obviously we left. Obviously now with religion, I've got a way different perspective on it. After losing my dad, I was like, I should probably believe in something. Like it's nice and I'm also 28. So I've started to try and figure out what my path is with religion. So all that to say is that it was all that drama for no reason because now I believe in something. But that is kind of what your parents were fighting for the right for, was for you to become an adult and figure it out on your own. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of nice. It's nice. Yeah, because I just remember being a kid and I was like, I wish I believed in something because I'd always be afraid of death. It would scare me as it scares everyone. And I'd wake up at the middle of the night and like, oh, my God, I don't know what to do. Like, be crying. I just wish, even if they didn't believe it or even if it's a bit of a lie or even if, like, God, it's just so nice to believe in something. To believe in something, yeah. Yeah, so I think now that's when I'm thinking about having a family. It's like, oh, I kind of want to just have like a soft, this is what we believe in. Anyway, so that was the first kind of trouble growing up. I really got to be honest. When I started this questioning and you said you threw a desk at a teacher, I did not expect the story to end up with me actually believing that you were the victim. And I was like, wow, that really, you are a very persuasive storyteller because I actually think that teacher probably deserved it. No, no. I remember that was just the first memory I had of being naughty at school. And then I remember I left that school after all the religion stuff and I went to a different school and Yipun State School. And that was cool. I remember that was a lot of fun. But we were still, me and my brother would get bullied about the religion stuff. It would be so wild. Kids are so mean. But it was like very formative. Did you guys describe yourself as atheist? or just non-denominational? Exactly. So just non-denominational. Yeah. We don't even know. Like that was a thing. Like people would be like, oh, you're this or that. I'm like, I don't even know. I don't know. And that was kind of nice. But yeah, we'd always get bullied about like Christmas. Oh, what are you going to do on Christmas? Because you didn't celebrate any holidays then either. No, we didn't. But my mom was kind of cheeky. So obviously after Christmas is Boxing Day. So she would go get all the sales and she'd be like, we're doing New Year's celebration instead, which was nice. Yeah. So we would, I would, I tell everyone we got more presents, but I don't think we did because my mom just wanted to get the deal. Right. She just wanted the sales. Yeah. Maybe she does believe in religion. And that was the whole thing. That was her thing. Listen, for our kids, because I have a similar feeling in the sense that I really don't want to push my own beliefs onto that of my kids. Yeah. So I tell them that everyone believes something different Yeah No one knows for sure and here what mommy believes but you can decide if you believe the same thing or if you believe something different And that way there's a little bit of a grounding foundation of yes, I believe the same thing, mommy, or at least just putting them, putting the thought in their mind that I want them to be critical thinkers and that they can pick and choose some of the things that ring true for them. And these are the things that I believe, but I don't know either. Like I'm not right. And if this just because I believe something different than what your friend believes doesn't make them wrong. So when you go forward. And it's so nice to ask questions. Yeah. That's what I realized. That's what I'm grateful for with my parents is that it's so open for me to figure it out and ask questions. Yeah. Because I would, and I think you see a lot of that with people that are kind of like, this is how it has to be. They get stuck in that and then they grow older and they're like, a lot of my friends are ex-Mormon. Yeah. they grow older and they're like oh i don't know if that's right i don't know if i believe in that fully or maybe i somewhat believe in it but i don't and because they were kind of stuck in that way they kind of once it unravels it really unravels yeah so that's what i get a bit worried about and i'm again grateful with my parents so that i can question everything yeah but yeah anyway got kicked out of those schools i think i kicked out another school and wow i you don't seem like a troublemaker me come on no i remember the first time i got suspended my dad said to me because we grew up in the country he said you're never going to do this again uh you have to go and pick up every rock and every stick on our property and that was the worst thing ever because we lived on a farm right so it was just rocks and sticks everywhere it was all rocks and sticks right yeah so that was and that was for the whole weekend yeah i feel like that was your dad's version of like wax on wax off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? It didn't work because I got suspended again. Yeah. Was that for a fight club? I know you've been pretty vocal about your teenage fight clubs. Yeah. Were they like official? Did someone, was someone keeping minutes or anything? No, no. You know how we call them towel fights. So you wrap your hands in towels and you punch the shit out of each other until the towels fall off. Oh. And that's a round done or until you like want to stop. Okay. And I wasn't, I thought I was good at it. I wasn't very good. Did you always win? this one time I most of the times I was pretty good this one time wasn't that good this big this big guy bigger than you you're 6'5". He was pretty large he was larger than in charge he bounced my head off a wall and it was the first time I was like oh god I got pretty dizzy and I ripped the towels off I said f*** this I'm gonna get him and then everyone held me back but then I dated his sister so I was the real winner so you're the real winner yeah shout out Bonnie our teenagers it's crazy how much we have in common I also You also had a fight class? Yeah, towel fights I, of course Yeah Is that the worst injury You had as a kid Or did you ever get hurt worse? I got a knee reconstruction At 17 Because I was playing rugby Okay Yeah, and I had that popped out I thought I was pretty good Not very good But Yeah, I played So I played rugby In Australia And I got tackled from behind And the guy like Pulled my Pulled my shin And then my knee kind of Oh gosh Fell off my leg And that was kind of cool because when you stand up and you're full of adrenaline, my knee kept slipping off my leg and I was like, what's wrong with me? But it was still together. And then my dad was like, you're being a pussy. Get back out there. Your dad has some... I mean, he was a funny guy. He was a funny guy. Coming out naked, telling you to go back out there with your knee falling off your leg. Yeah, I think because it wasn't like a crazy hit. It wasn't like a ooh moment. It was just like... And also, I was built like an asparagus like i was so skinny and long for no reason and like my like my legs should have broken a lot sooner um so it wasn't very good but yeah so i went to school in australia got kicked out of school in australia then my parents were like we're just gonna send you to a different country and then i went to school in new zealand rugby there and i was the worst i was on the worst team at school and on the bench for them okay like they would just put me on for 10 minutes at the end of the game, he'd be like, oh, Harry should probably run. How old is your brother? I think he's 31. Okay, so he's three years older than you. Two and a half. Two and a half. Two and a half years older. Did he also have to go to New Zealand? No, no, he was perfect at school. Okay. Now he's a sausage. Did they send you a loan to another country? Yep. Cool. And you know what? I got kicked out of that school too. I delivered a tent for two weeks. You what? You delivered a tent? Yep, for two weeks at school. Was that your punishment? no my parents like we spent so much money on you for boarding school like since I was 14 I was in boarding school and so they're like oh yeah we spent so much money in boarding school for you and this was your final year at school we give up and there's only two weeks left there were two weeks left two weeks left like you didn't have to go to the sister college and streak I didn't have to do it but it was funny and if one of our friends didn't get caught by the police and snitch on everyone we would have gotten away with it if not for those meddling kids that's what we're saying. Yeah. You know, so it's kind of not really my fault. I see. Gosh, I really feel very bad for you. It's horrible. Honestly, troubled upbringing. Were you always tall? Did you like sprout overnight or? Yeah. I, I, my family's quite tall. Like my mom's six foot. Yeah. Like me. Exactly. You walked in and you were like, Oh my gosh, you're so tall. What's my mom doing here? This is so tall. No, yeah. I think my brother's six. Two, and then my dad was 6'3", and then he started shrinking. You're the tallest in the family. I have to be. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah. And then I got four sisters, and they're quite little. Yeah, they're little and fun. Great. Yeah. Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. 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Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hilary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing her first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry and stay grounded through every chapter. It's a raw and honest conversation about identity, evolution, and building a life that truly matters. You desire in family, like, this picture. and that's not reality a lot of the time. It's for people. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life and I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict? A villain. A nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast Doubt the case of Lucy Letby we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was no voicing of any skepticism or doubt it'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong listen to Doubt the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage. But it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. You're a predator, Michael Ebengood. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When did you first notice girls and when did they first start noticing you? Jenny. I was 14 and that was her. I lost my virginity too. Love her so much. At 14? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. because all my friends were doing it. Okay. That's why, yeah, that's a common reason. That's usually how it happens. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, God, is it fun? What am I doing? It's kind of weird. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, actually, the first girl I noticed, I think I was 10. I'm like, oh, this is. There was, because there was, her name was Imogen. Remember that? Really good with names. You are good with names. Yeah, Imogen. I remember because her parents were from a different town, and my dad was, I think, helping build their shed. And they're like, oh, we're going to come stay on the farm for a little bit, whatever else. And I was like, oh, this is, is this my first girlfriend? Maybe not. But then as, I remember when I turned 14, all my friends were like telling me about like losing their virginities for the first time with their girlfriends. And I was like, God, what do we do? Who do I go for? And then Jenny, who's my friend's cousin, she's like I'll do it be your girlfriend or have sex have sex yeah and she had a boyfriend of two years so she knew what was going on okay she knew the laser she knew the ropes yeah and so that was the first time and I remember I was like this is weird yeah this is interesting I was like I didn't expect it to feel like this and then she was like go out there and then come back to me after you get a few more girls and I'll tell you if you got better I was like it was not that bad She was so like a woman of the world. Yeah, she was cool. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I was like obsessed with her too at school. Like everyone would always yell at me. Like when I'm in Forrest Gump, I'm like, I love you, Jenny. Right. They would always yell that at me. Oh, it was obvious that you loved her. She's my queen. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where she's at now. She's probably happily. Who knows? Love her so much. You've never bothered to look her up? See if you can find her on social media? No way. No. I just keep name dropping her in every podcast Just everywhere you go You ever been tattooed on you? I actually do I was like wow No I don't Let me see it No I don't I'm not that crazy Where do you go on dates in New Zealand? What's the dating scene like? Oh it was pretty bad That's why I ended up on these dating shows What do we do? We're running out of options To be honest Until recently I wasn't very good at being a dater Okay Is that kind of silly to say? No I realized that if you want something you have to put in effort. If you want something good, you got to put in extra effort. Yeah. So when I was younger, I would be like, dinner, park, go for a walk, like whatever. But when I was at school in New Zealand, pretty much just like, I love doing stuff in the daytime. I love daytime activities or going and doing something together. Yeah. But now I'm being more active with trying to plan better dates and be a better dater. What's a good date for you now? Like if you were going to plan a great date. You want to hear the craziest one? Yeah. fly to Catalina Island on a helicopter, get dinner and then fly back. Wow. Because I thought that was like pretty intense. That is pretty intense. What if it's a bad first date and then you've got like a helicopter ride and a like totally romantic scene? Pretty good Instagram stories. Yeah, true. Okay, so that's good. That I went on, I, throughout the whole date, I had written, pre-written compliments for her. I was really excited to see this person. Okay. And every, like, I think like every 30 minutes or so or 20 minutes, I would give her a piece of paper and I'd be like, I think you're so amazing. And then at the end of it, I was like, I think you should be my girlfriend. Yes. I had like 10, 10 or so written out and I kept giving it to her. I was like, oh, I should, this isn't, this makes you feel good because it's intentional. Yeah. It's nice. Yeah. And you got to think about really what you wanted to say instead of just trying to come up with them on the spot. And it makes her feel special. Yeah. And that's the main part. That's the most important part. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So let's go back to, let's say you're 16, and you start looking for brand deals. Not that that was a thing when you were 16, but let's say that it was. What are some of the products you hope reach out to you when you were 16? Lynx deodorant, which is like our axe. You guys have axe over here? Yeah, we should do. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, so it's rebranded, Lynx in Australia, I think. Okay. L-Y-N-X, and love them. and Colgate toothpaste. Ooh, you've always been a Colgate guy. No, I hate them so much now. But back then- Back then you loved it. Yeah, and I used to have the yellowest teeth. But I just, yeah. And mouthwash. I was a big Listerine mouthwash guy. Okay. Yeah, but then apparently that's also not good for you. I know. You know what, is anything good for us? No. Yeah, whatever you currently are using, it's bad for you. Whatever you used to use is now better for you. Whatever. And then five years it'll change again. Yeah actually back then I had braces and blocks and rubber bands So yeah maybe teeth stuff would have been cool Okay Yeah Did you have a favorite food or snack No I was like the size of a horse So I just eat everything And when I was 16, I was just, I couldn't eat enough food. It was wild. But you said you were built like an asparagus, which is the opposite of a horse. So when did you go from asparagus to horse? I think when I was like 22. Okay. When I started to fill out. But yeah, back then I was more like a flamingo, I think. Okay. Skinny legs and just a pot belly. Hot. It was a unique look. Do you have a favorite reality TV show you have not appeared on? Oh, I just finished Traitors. Have you been watching Traitors? I have seen Traitors, yes. Would you do it? Have you done it? No, I've not done it, and I think I would be terrible at it. Would you want to be a faithful or a traitor? Traitor for sure. A traitor. I would get caught out right away. You think so? For sure. I'm so bad at lying. No, it's okay. All the other shows where I kiss a girl and I lie about it. Yeah, they always know. I'm like watching it. I'm like, this guy's stupid. You can see what I'm lying. I'm like, no way. No, what, me? Me, I would never kiss that girl. What? Yeah. No. And then I'm like, I'm exaggerating. Like, tell them to pull up the replay. This is a TV show, right? And I'm like, this guy's a f***ing idiot. Like, no way. So me, as a traitor, go, we didn't kill that person. Who? We? I didn't mean we. I meant they. Who? Literally. I would just, but I've been obsessed with that because I've had a few of them on my podcast. and I just think like the whole experience would be cool. Yeah. No one dating shows me. Let's Marry Harry was my retirement one. Okay. I want to get to that in a second, but before I do, I do want to talk about your crossover into traditional movies, real acting you're doing now. Yeah. What do you like more? Do you like being yourself on reality TV or a heightened version of yourself on reality TV? Or do you prefer something that's scripted where you get to play a character? I love acting because everyone has, I guess the main essence of it is it's someone's dream and their idea. And I love being a part of someone's dream. Like I love being like, oh my God, I get to be an accessory. Like, because you know how it is. It takes forever to get a thought to film. Oh, yes. Like a thought in front of the consumer. And like so many corporate meetings and then who's the right person for this position and then rewrites the script. Like there's just so much stuff that goes into it. And just like, I'm not saying reality TV isn't like that, but when everyone's on set, everyone knows the game plan. Everyone's read the script. Everyone's so excited about it. Everyone knows what they need in the scene. And I just love that. Like I love that idea. And I love that like, think reality TV is a little bit more like unraveled. Like it's just, you could be filming 20 hours a day. You could be all over the place. You don't know what the scene is going to give. You don't know if you've got a hit or a non-hit. But like when you're on set, like you can feel. yeah the vibe when on a scripted set um so i the the movies i have done like i've i just really loved that and i just love seeing people like really nail it like in a scene like oh my god wow and you love obviously like you just said that collaborative we're all it we're all on the same team we're all going for the same goal and now we're just going to talk out what the best avenue is to get there so cool yeah what is that reality tv it's like you don't even know what the storyline is. Get drunk and kiss that girl and then lie about it. Right. And are they that direct? No, it's my brain. Okay, got it. Right. But they are thinking like, let's see if he'll get drunk and kiss that girl and then lie about it. And then we'll have a show. And he'll do it. Every time. Every time. You gotta get that guy. The worst thing is, whenever I bought a show and I hear a producer or someone say, this is getting boring, I'm back. One second. Hold on. Let me get a fireball shot. What are we gonna do? no that's the because I'm I'm just like I remember like earlier shows like I would just be a menace like I would go into something like because obviously there's different couples right I'd take something out of someone's bag and put it in someone else's bag like they're gonna fight and then I go like dude because everyone's overanalyzing you're a producer's dream you just take away all the bad producer responsibility from them and you do it for them for free it's so stupid I remember Perfect Match it was like one night no one was doing anything and I was so drunk so I just like got all the mayonnaise and walk around. I'm like feeding everyone mayonnaise. You have to eat it. It's so good. Never made the cut. It was just so weird. Right. But you know it. It was an experience that you'll have. And everyone there. Everyone now had a tummy full of mayonnaise. Yeah. And they will get to tell everyone. Harry loves mayonnaise. Harry loves feeding people mayonnaise when he gets drunk. Yeah. Very no good. I'd like to pitch you a movie. Okay. Let's go. This is pretty earnest. I'm serious here. I want you to do a three amigos reboot with Rob Rauch and Dylan Efron. Wow. That would be cool. But they're really nice guys. They're so sweet. Yeah. So are Steve Martin and Martin Short. And then you can be a Chevy Chase. Perfect. Okay. Yeah. I love, I really love Dylan. I haven't met Rob. Maybe I have. I'm not sure. But Dylan is the best guy ever. I know. He's so sweet. I know. couldn't love him more just the nicest true salt of the earth it's like no surprise too that then he and Robert Irwin connected because it's again another guy you're just like is there a single bad bone or even just a bit of a bone I don't think so no bones they're made of mayonnaise it's just incredible let's go how do we get that movie up and running now that I've said it I will manifest it for you I know you got to meet Tom Cruise during his Mission Impossible press run. Wow. Was he your guy? Like, who were your celebrities growing up? Justin Bieber, always, number one. Okay, number one. Yeah. The Biebs. He's just the coolest guy ever. Tom Cruise, obviously, wow. Like, I think, and Brad Pitt too. Oh, yeah. If I ever met Brad Pitt, I'm probably, I gotta. I know. The thing is, like, it's, when you meet people like that, like, maybe it's different, but I'm like, I don't know what to do with my hands. Like, I don't know what to look. Like, I met Tom and I was like, we've got a mutual friend. And he was like, okay. I was like, I've done Pilates with Glenn Powell one time. And he was like, he's done Pilates with Glenn. And then I'm like, okay. Who did he say that to? There was so many people and I looked at the crowd and I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, Mr. Cruz. Can I take a picture with you? Can we just take the photo? Could you send me your cake? Yeah. Your yearly cake? I want to be on the cake list. Please. Yeah. Wait, what's the cake list? What is this? Tom Cruise, everybody he works with, he then the following year sends them a cake. Everyone. He remembers everybody's names. He sends them like a person. It's a Christmas gift. He sends them, I think it's a sweet lady. No, it's not a sweet lady, Jane. It's a Woodland Hills cake. Don't's Bakery. It's famous. And people who get it now, it's like, you know, Hollywood lore. Oh, are you on the Tom Cruise list to get the cake? And now with social media, people who get them will open them up and cut into them and take bites. I'm going to lie. I'm going to buy one from this place. Thanks, Tom. Okay. Thanks, Tom. Do it. Great. Perfect. We'll put him on the list. This guy dressed in Pilates with Glenn Powell once. Not sure how he got a cake. Imagine. I'm just going to lie. I'm like, yeah, guys. Thanks so much, Tom. Thank you. I really appreciate it. You've got to make Mission Impossible the next one. I'm in it. I'm the lead. I'm the lead. Yeah, I'm the lead. Not Tom. Not Tom, yeah. I'm stepping in. I'm his replacement now. He sees the potential after this one really awkward interaction. Did you have any celebrity crushes growing up? God, yeah. Obviously Angelina Jolie. I mean, come on. Come on. Who didn't have a crush on Angelina Jolie? Yeah, Mr. and Mrs. Smith. I think that was, I'm like, I need a love where we try to kill each other. that I go on reality dating shows. Maybe it's them two. They f***ed me up. That's, we can blame them. Yeah. We can totally blame the two of them. Yeah, Mr. Smith and Smith, if it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be on reality TV. It would never have happened. And my love life would have been perfect. Yeah, I think, yeah, that's crazy. Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A sun and Venus and Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. 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Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hilary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing her first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry and stay grounded through every chapter. It's a raw and honest conversation About identity, evolution And building a life that truly matters You desire in family Like this picture And that's not reality A lot of the time It's for people My sister and I don't speak It's definitely a very painful part of my life And I hope it's not forever But it's for right now Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty On the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. A nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. you're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. To keep this secret, for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. You're a predator, Michael Levengood. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you have any cool, young suggestions for me? Before we started this podcast, we talked about your pants that are dirty on purpose. You paid extra money for this dirt. That could be something. what could I do as a mid-40s mom of two how did what could I do to be cooler so you don't strike me as someone who's dirty so thank you let's cut out the dirty pants okay not for me you don't need to do that okay I think you're crushing it you've got a podcast okay yeah it's very cool the coolest thing you could have ever done okay okay uh iHeart we love hearts and we love them um I know how to do the I know how to do the the young Gen Z version of it. Isn't it? It's a heart. You can do it with all of them. Okay. Or like this. I don't think that's right. This? Yeah, I think there's something with the pinkies. This one. Am I getting old? What's going on? Yeah, exactly. That one. But I'm matching it with yours. So we do it together. See? Am I? Did I just age myself? I don't know. I'm so happy you're old. Yeah, I am. I'm the oldest person in life. I don't know. I feel like health and wellness is really in two. so okay peptides oh what do you take BP157 I'm taking the Glomix oh have you heard of this one no the Glomix and NAD so Glomix I know about all about NAD I had an NAD shot not that long ago and it bruised the back of my arm okay no I didn't even feel it but I yeah I don't know I think I bruise like a peach oh you do yeah yeah it's nice and sensitive and sweet I'm just little you know yeah you are I think Glomix is GHKCU in it BP157 and then there's something else, but it's meant to be really good for your skin. Yes. I just want people to know, not that I'm anti your health and wellness thing, but for people who I had cancer in 2024 and peptides, one of the reasons they're so good for your skin is that they promote cell turnover. One of the things you don't want if you have cancer is those cells to turn over and multiply. I've had it three times. You had what three times? Skin cancer. Okay. So what I'm saying is peptides right now are kind of all the rage, but they're not for everyone. So worth possibly talking to your dermatologist to say is there a potential for my skin cancer cells to be regenerating Because I love lying to her though You just love Oh God It makes you feel better Yeah You know, I lie to my therapist. I don't lie to my oncologist. Okay. You know, pick and choose the doctors you lie to, friend. Okay, that's a good point. Who? You don't even have to tell me the name. just what's the oldest person you've ever had slide into your dms oh uh i don't know like eight 70s or 80s i think after dancing with the stars has got like the average the average audience age is 60 i believe maybe it's changed now but when i was on the show there was 60 and after that i had some some freaky older ladies in your dm want to get a taste of the sausage, you know? Yeah. I was going to say apple pie, but I don't know why it turned freaky. Anyway, I'm going to shut up. I am about ready to wrap up my ballroom career with a few final dates on the Dancing with the Stars live tour, and you competed and also hit the road. Did you have as much fun on the show as I have been having, which is immeasurable amounts of fun in case you were having the best time ever? The time of my life. I wanted to die. Did you? No, it was the best experience ever. So rewarding and amazing. I just never danced in my life. Same. And I'm like, well, you're little and easy to move, no? Yeah, yeah. You just fling me around. You're good. Yeah. I'm a tree. And one of the judges, like one of the extra judges one day, he was like, oh, you're like a tree trunk. You don't know what's going on. I'm like, ow. I'm trying. Second off, you're correct. So when I was on tour, I came out as a tree. And it was really fun. But no, I had the best time. Everyone was really lovely. and then they weren't. And then they weren't. Yeah, because you know what's cool when the next season comes around so everyone stops talking to you. Well, yeah. I mean, also, you know what that schedule's like. When the next season comes around. Oh, they're locked in. Boy, you have no time for anything. I was a little surprised by how much of my life it absorbed. Yeah, it deletes every plan and everything that you have. Yeah, the next season came around of the show and I realized a lot of the people were not texting me back or unfollowing me. And actually the biggest thing that upset me the most, biggest thing that upset me the most is when my dad had passed. No one texted me. And I was really close to them. No one had texted me apart from Sasha. And I was like, okay. I love Sasha. So I was like, oh, I don't know if you guys are really my friends. Or just it was horrible. Right. That was a very telling moment for you. Yeah. And also I think the hardest thing was like I was trying my best with all the noise and everything. but I just think I'm I'm kind of glad that I'm not friends with any of them because of when my dad had passed there was one of them, I was training in the gym with him like every day and I told him that my dad was sick and there was a lot of them and I knew that they knew that something was going on I think that was the thing that f***ed up the most there's no denying he knew yeah, no denying that and you could have texted or anything like that but when I posted the photo and my dad's passed they just like it and I'm like yeah I would I would have moved mountains like I if it was you I would have been there so I think that's why I'm like I'm kind of glad that that chapter is behind you yeah because I don't know if you're really real people but it's all good because I think when you're in that show and I've spoken to other people that want to show too like it's just such a bubble and you see like it's it's such a bubble and nothing else matters and I think like when you when you're a dancer and you're on that show that's like you made the NFL yeah because like a lot of the other pros that like leave the show that kind of like they're outcasts and don't really talk to them so it's a bit weird anyway i'm probably gonna get in trouble for that no i don't really care you've mentioned a couple of times about your dad passing so it's obviously something that still deeply affects you when you were close to your dad you've had great stories in this podcast about your dad do you want to talk a little more about your dad is there anything in particular you want to say or just it's like grief is so fun and i love i love thinking about my dad i love getting opportunity to talk about like lost one like lost loved ones because it's really like that was the hard the hardest thing i've ever experienced is watching him take his last breath but that was such a beautiful thing to be a part of and i think you learn a lot about your environment and your people and who really cares and who's really there when you're going through something so humanizing and something so traumatic. And I was just so grateful that I was there to be there and experience that. But there's so much drama around death too. Family is so silly and sassy. Yes. Isn't it kind of funny how people get when someone goes? But I just love being able to talk about him because he's my whole personality. You know, like my dad was, when we were growing up, he's the biggest flirt in front of mom. He's flirting with the waitress. He's teaching me how to tip. I remember we would be, first time I ever tip because tipping is not a thing in Australia. But if someone's really good, my dad would be like, here's some cash. You go to shake their hand and you hide the cash in there. And I'm like, okay, that's cool. Because he's like, you don't want other people to see it because then they'll think that they get some. I'm like, okay. It's like only the good ones. Only the good ones. Yeah, yeah. But I love, like, I just love thinking about that stuff because this is all fleeting, right? And I guess that's where my journey with religion is going now because I remember sitting down with him because he went through with his sister dying and that was the scariest thing but the most beautiful thing on the planet because you get to know that he's, this is the day, like, he gets to choose. And you get to be there. You get to spend every day with him. And that was really cool. But yeah, it was just like, obviously every relationship and every relationship with your parents is up and down. And I had so many, like two or three years where I didn't talk to him because he struggled with alcohol. And we had just a very rocky relationship. But as anyone does, like no relationship is perfect. But I just, I'm so grateful that we got to know and I got to look back and just all those hard days and all those happy days. Just be grateful because it's my dad. Yeah. It's really nice that you were there too for those last moments. I really think are like just one of the like points of life. Yeah. It's so like, it's so wild. I remember Alex Warren was talking about it when his parents had passed that like he was in the hospital and his whole world is just like flipped on its head like it's the hardest thing he's ever gone through and he walks outside and the world is all just moving yeah people are driving past no one cares and that's why I felt like I remember because he had a drink and he went to sleep and I remember sitting there I was like because my sister Sarah she said hold his feet you'll get all his magic powers when he goes over so I'm sitting there holding his feet and he takes his last breath and I remember I was like wow this is really up. This is the hardest thing I've ever done. I can't be in this room. So I went outside and went and cried in a bush. I'm like looking, I'm like, no one, no one knows. No one cares about what just happened. Like this is. It's a very isolating feeling. Yeah. But then, yeah, same thing. Like I just look at all the people that reached out. Like there was friends that were like, I'll fly to New Zealand right now. Yeah. There was friends that were like, oh, I'll literally do anything that you need. I'll be there, whatever else. And then there was a lot of friends that didn't, couldn't even text or call or whatever else. And it's not like I needed it. Like I'm good and I had my sisters. But God, it's nice to just know who's there. It's like a birthday text, but it's a little bit. You can let that slide. Yeah. You can let that one go. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with you. Grief and death though does, everybody responds very, very differently. Some people really like, I, I don't know what to say. And that not knowing what to say paralyzes you. And certainly there are other people who are just assholes and are just like going to be callous and not care. But also for other people, it, it can, I don't know what to say. I don't want to, do I call? And if I call, am I interrupting? Am I, you know, everyone can make people weird. And, and death is so scary. Yeah. And I think the only thing because now i guess i'm the spokesperson for the dead dad club with all my friends so when i've had a few friends now who've lost parents um and i my best advice to anyone if they have a friend that's lost someone whatever else is just them knowing that you're there yeah is super important so like the greatest thing the greatest gift that i learned was that um like i don't want people calling me all the time i don't like on a good day like if someone's blowing my phone up it's horrible but on those moments i just if you text your friend like hey thinking about you thinking about you whatever you need i'm here love you so much like that wow if i had that from half the people that i'm angry at like it would have been a different story right and i still would have tried to help yeah and yeah so anyway thank you for sharing all that with me that was Very special. So let's talk very briefly about Let's Marry Harry. Yeah. Executive produced by Alex Cooper for Netflix. Outside of assuming you just pick Sia at the end, we don't know anything about it. What can you tell us? So Sia does get picked at the end. Surprise! Surprise. No, you know what's funny is she texts me and she won't mind me saying this. She texts me. She goes, if they're all done, Terry, just let me know. I'll come save the day. Like, she's awesome. She's so funny. Like, we have such a good relationship. She's like, just let me know if you're not having a good time and I'll come save the day. And I'm like, okay, cool. But it is, that was one of the hardest things I've ever done. A lot of stuff with my dad is going to be in there, which was really, like, I guess, vulnerable and opens me up more than I've ever been opened up on a show before. And I think also it's different this time because I don't have to be anyone but myself. Yeah. I don't have to compete with other guys for screen time or I don't have to hide stuff in people's rooms. But there's obviously a lot of drama, way too much drama, a lot of sleepless nights. Pretty, pretty chaotic show. Amazing cast. Like the most beautiful cast on the planet ever to exist. most incredible stories most incredible people and i just think that it's going to be such a wild ride for everyone to come on um and there's a lot of cringe moments i'm sure that i've done um a lot of embarrassing things that i've done and i just yeah i think i'm going to be watching through my fingers yeah now that you're at this phase of life where you are ready to settle down. Do you hate watching old reality clips of young F boy Harry? Can't do it. Like it's nice to look back and be like, Oh, I don't want to be like that anymore. Right. But also like my whole dating life has been on TV since I was 19. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of, yeah, a lot of silly decisions. Of course. Um, but yeah, now I'm glad it's wrapped up. Okay, good. When you get Harry Jowzy, you don't just let him leave that easy. He's gonna stick around for a bonus episode where we will listen to one of your voicemails. It'll premiere this Friday on the dedicated Teen Beat feed. Just search Teen Beat wherever you get your podcasts. That way, every new episode just shows up when they're released. Plus, I want you to share your own tales of childhood cringe with the podcast. Record a voice memo recalling the most embarrassing story from your teens and then email it to teenbeatpod at gmail.com. And the next thing you know, Harry Jousey will be commenting on it. It's that easy. Teen Beat is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel. Executive producers, Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo. Producer and editor, Tara Subox. The theme song is by Mark Hoppus. Yes, that Mark Hoppus. Follow us on Instagram at Teen Beat Pod. Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. You desire in family, like, this picture, and that's not reality. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life, and I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. you're supposed to be safe that's your home that's your husband listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is an iHeart Podcast Guaranteed Human