THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 114 — All-American Halftime Hoopla + AI Scott Adams? + Roblox ICE Raids?

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The Charlie Kirk show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts, and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. All right, folks. We are back. Welcome to Thought Crime Thursday. We're here. I believe. And we have a great show in store for all of you. And I believe, and I think I'm having seen that confirm now that we have all four of the current co hosts. Of course, our fifth co host on assignment in heaven. But we have got Blake Tyler and Andrew all here. We hear it's a remarkable achievement. We have all four standard people at the standard time. Like at the state of the schedule, it's like we don't usually see it. Everything would all in our in our correct chairs. It's in our correct posture. Because we have excited about the all-American half everything would be perfect except that Andrew forgot the dress code rules. And so he's in like a no matter what. The show. We all I did it. I want to switch it. He all took Andrew out back beat the crap out of him and took his jacket away. You guys are very mean about this. Like I have an iconic jacket. You don't see me wearing it on this show. No, it's it's I got a blanket. Blake is wearing my jacket. Blake is wearing that. White shirt. A little bit. Yeah, Taylor, but I'm not wearing it. No, nope. Well, here we are. We we made it. We're live. We are live. We're live. We're live. We just have to chance. We guys have comments. Send us a comment. We'll totally read them and react to them and possibly hate on them. I have them up. But but as so here's our ground rules ground rules, right? So we all know different bits and pieces about the all-American half time show. I imagine we're going to get a lot of questions about that. So we should probably set some ground rules because I know Kid Rock has been going around saying that he's got a surprise, but he doesn't want to reveal it. He wants to maintain the element of that. Obviously, we all know things. So what what are the ground rules for talking about the all-American half time show, which will be the only half time show this weekend? The ground rules are that we call it the game. A game. There's a lot of games this weekend. It's a sporting event sports game. It's an important game that that lots of people tend to wear. I mean, a lot. Yeah, it's like all of the preliminary hockey rounds of the winter Olympics. And I've never watched them. And we can also say definitively that that it is part of a league that a lot of people are familiar with. League of legends? League of legends. We're going to call it the League of Legends. We put it be your legend. We put out some some tweets about it. I think people know about it now. But we can't talk about anything because well, I mean, we'll explain probably a little more after all this is the line up. We could talk about the lineup. Let's get the lineup up there again. We are excited to be bringing Kid Rock, Brandley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, Gabby Barrett, all to the all-American half time show. It will be streaming live around eight PM Eastern on Sunday. Well, there you go. That's that's not from that was kid rock at the RNC. I was there. I was I was I was that is not from our own. Because it hasn't happened to people liked it. Look at JD. It'll be like a 10-barrel displacement. Usha Usha not into it. As much as he actually doing werewolves of London. Or is it so no no no he has a he has a song that uses that samples were. Okay, I can show so much I know. Yeah, so it's what I want to say is you can watch the show right here on rumble. Also, we're long. You can watch the show right here on rumble. All of turning point social media channels are going to have it. So TPSA TPSA YouTube X and rumble Charlie Charlie's Charlie's what we have. We'll put it up on Charlie's stuff. In addition to social media and by the way, all of you people have a YouTube app on your TV these days. So you can have it ready to go if you want to switch over that way. Other ways to watch it. Sync Claire's broadcasts OTT channel charge. So that's Samsung Plus YouTube TV who lose sling all those things. Daily Wire Plus TBN real America's voice where we have the Charlie Kirk show and Jack Pistobix daily show. Speak for yourself, Andrew. You say everyone's got a YouTube app on their TV now, but I will have you know, I watched television the way God intended on a wooden cathode ray tube television set. Wait, wait, wait, wait, do you have bad bunny ears on your TV? It does not have the butt. We call it it has knobs. It has literal physical knobs. He will forever be known as Kineho Molo. Kineho Molo. Kineho Molo. Because we have four months to learn Spanish. I've been practicing it because you guys all know. Yes, yes. I'm quarter Mexican. So I have a I have a total pass today just to go ham on all that kind of conversation because I'm one of them. Well, we had talked on on our group chats trying to agitate the government into doing flyovers over. No, but big game. We need a DHS deportation plane flyovers. Just ride over. I was trying to call in an air strike. And ride over. No, I didn't say that. I'm going to pause. Disavow. Disavow. And then I'm going to continue the sentence. Fly right over. You know, the San Francisco. It's not even San Francisco. There you go. Yeah, they play like they say, Claire hours away with traffic. If you were going to plan a bunch of, you know, flights, you know, just test flights, I think they should be loading over Santa Clara over and over and over. I think what they should do, genuinely, is load up a couple DHS deportation planes bound for C cut, load them up there, fly them over, buzz, buzz the stadium and then do a big ad during the Super Bowl of all the killers that they got out like child sex traffickers. Drop leaflets. Just drop. No, just leave. Just got deported to bouquelles, C cut prison. That would be really. Maybe like identify one person who might be at that stadium who had who might be a foreigner who has some sort of outstanding warrant. You know, there's what 80,000 people there. There might be one UID one of them. And then you have an excuse to parachute in ice agents. They land on the field and arrest. Just to make matters more interesting, it could be we could bring in 700 agents that were just that were part of the drawdown in Minneapolis. But we repositioned those assets in Santa Clara. And those are the guys that parachute in. Well, they also start raiding down the government also probably has the ability to shut the grid down right half time. I was going to say, what if they use some of those so-not. Don't hurt innocent people like who are not at the game. But what you could do, maybe they could say there's a security hazard and they say, guys, to make sure everyone's safe, they all need to go through this advanced scanner that they have for security and then you only give them one. That's what they would do. That's what the Biden administration would do for our events. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We've been there. We've been there. That's what we call it. Do you think our audience knows the story? How we would act? We would host President Trump during the campaign. And Secret Service would basically go like, we've got this and they would just they should make two scanners. They give us they give us two mags for like 17,000 people and people are waiting out the maximum the metal detectors. Yeah, metal detectors. So people are like, I'll never forget this. By the way, it's a classic Charlie story. We were in South Florida. President Trump was coming to our West bomb. President Trump was coming to the event. So Secret Service has to go and advance everything. Joe Biden's president. They give us like prop. What was it? Like a legitimate number. What was it? Like six mags in an event that size requires one mag. I think it was literally one or two. It was literally like, I think it was two mags. Very many other is one choke point and trust was one choke point. So one entrance with two mags. All these people saying go. I mean, we've got thousands of people that are trying to get in this event. And everybody had to go twist around in circles. Like we had to twist the line around this parking structure. And so what we had to do because the Secret Service was Jerkin President Trump around and jerking us around is we had to go buy a bunch of big fans to like blow air on these poor people that were stuck out in the mass humidity and that super hot sun. At least they were shaded, but it was very hot. It was it was probably hotter in that parking garage even though they were out of the sun than it was outside. So we had to get this was when Biden was president. Just everybody knows. Yes, they were Jerkin Trump around because Biden was president. And so we had to get pallets of water. And then Charlie was supposed to go up and speak, I think, or he had he had an interview. I think it was with Megan Kelly, if I remember right and push that back and back and back. Because Charlie wanted to go out in the parking structure, shake everybody's hand. And man, did he get dressed down by a bunch of like mad people like you need to rent your event better. And he's like, listen, this is not our fault. This is like we've done everything right. We can't get in the Secret Service to give us any more mags. One by one and deal with all the pissed off people because he did it kill people out in the what you went to every single. I never got that. And it was the whole day. It was like a two day event. Every single person in line. Yeah, it took him hours. And he was flamin' mad. Flamin' mad. I've never seen Charlie. He was in rare form. He was in rare form. And by the way, he was getting it. He was getting into it with people that were trying to blame this on turning point because he's like, this is not us, you know, like, and but he was very gracious with people and tried to just make things right and had all the staff out there hand and water bottles out. It's so funny because my otherwise male, my main memory of that event is just that I think that was the day on the show we talked about Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis. I think that was like we did the show when we talked about that that day. So I was like, is that when the quote of the raw horse powers of the like, something like that? Yeah. Oh, which they which they take to they which they took to apply to all black women, but he was being very specific. It was about Katangi Brown Jackson, Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee, right? Yep. Yeah. That was the black woman. So that was that was all around. It was a memorable day in in the lore of turning point in the mortal in the immortal lore. But you know, there's a lot of stuff to talk about with the physically gigantic game that this is among several happening. There's one of those sports leagues. Yeah. Yeah. In the League of Legends. Well, and with our show, which is going to be so amazing, which we haven't really we have we do have to talk about it a little bit. We are talking about certain things we have to keep as a prize. Well, I'm excited. Most of it will be a surprise to me. Most of it will be a surprise to me because they've they've cut so close to the vest. I didn't really know anything until we announced it. Blake's like, I don't even know any kid rock songs. So the whole thing is I don't know I don't know any kid rock songs and I will admit. You don't know. Bow with a bow with a bow. I don't I know like one kid rock song and I had not heard of the other three people we've had on. I believe that they're pretty notable. They're pretty notable. I'm just totally out of the loop. Caboose, you got to get me a song from each of our our our our our brandly Gilbert. I have a brandly Gilbert story that I mean it's not a super story, but I as people know and we've talked about Charlie was not a super big country guy. I was also not a super big country guy and about I think it was 10 years ago about 10 years ago when Tony and I first started dating we or at some point and you know we were like first started dating that we she for whatever reason comes to this country born to the Soviet Union falls in love with country music and she's like oh I really want to I really want to go out and you really want to come and I was like well you know I really want to come to the show and like I'm going to some girlfriends but it great if you came and I was like well who is it she goes brandly Gilbert and I was like what's that and she goes what's country and I said okay send me a picture of your ticket and she goes okay fine so I I may have snuck into the brandly Gilbert concert using using a screenshot of her ticket to go in and I actually liked it I actually liked it so well I grew up listening to country music but it was more like the George straight version you know what's interesting is they they had George straight there's a petition going around pushing George straight as the you know as the to replace the Kineho Molo at the oh I saw that yeah that got like got like a hundred thousand signatures right 122 thousand last I checked but it was like you know completely organic but you know people this is the thing we are responding to market conditions we are good capitalist but also you know the family should have something you know that everybody can get behind and not worry about dresses and queer identity and all that stuff okay like really there should be there shouldn't there shouldn't be on us to do this like so much else in this country and politics and culture but we're doing it and Jack why don't you tell because this is this is something I've heard a lot of like I've gotten this question a lot and I always give you a shout out how did this come to be Jack yeah so I mean ultimately it starts with Charlie just like everything it it starts with Charlie and I know you guys did this a while back where Charlie used to always talk about the half-time shows he had this one tweet every there it is right there the at 2022 I'll never forget this one the NFL is now the league of sexual andarchy this half-time show should not be allowed on television and like I remember us being in the group chat like that evening you know him him Jack 2014 one like 2014 clothing optional half-time performance question either way I love that he doesn't mention the league he doesn't mention the event just half-time it's pretty perfect for right now which I think we actually do we do we want to play um I think we actually have a clip of Charlie let's play three four three I'm talking about it look the Super half-time show has a reputation people say it's a spicy program okay listen spicy it's supposed to be boundary pushing when you have the most televised event this is true most televised event for the entire year one of the most televised events on the planet by the way that should be a reflection of the virtue that hopefully you want society to embody this is Tyler's telling me here this is like flashback this is like because it's all this is so this is this is the old set and the other building the first set original set the original one and there was a moment where Charlie started wearing we got the sets were some of our first TPSA hats it was just the American flagland and he was wearing a hat like every day which I I always was like because he never wore a hat was he like was he like having a balding scare or something no I just think he just like coming to the office he had the craze he had the craziest mop a hair his hair started getting long that's like I see on it that's what eventually I really raised it yeah eventually he embraced it but it but like it was he would literally just roll into the studio well I would wear that hat every day too so we were just like we we were wearing that hat like I think that was like summertime-ish if I feel like I remember it right but it was like during that COVID era it was like right after COVID I think yeah well I think Charlie uh that's funny I whenever I see him wearing a hat in this clip I'm like oh I know exactly what year that I was what era that was yeah and the studio like at which studio was in like what was going on that time I think that was like literally like during COVID when we had to like because we didn't take any turning point to take any COVID money didn't take any PPE money and so you had to like figure it out I wonder what what year was that do we know what you know I think that was 20 I think that was during COVID it could be 2020-21 I remember that studio because Charlie and I were in that studio broadcasting on J6 so that's like whenever I see that studio I think about me and Charlie on J6 yeah go in like well I really glad I was saying 22 because it sounded like he was referring to the same thing he was referring to in that tweet so this was what's funny about that so that tweet the famous sexual anarchy tweet was about uh Dr. Dre and I think Snoop Dogg was in there and they actually did a pretty good job compared to the year before of not making it super sexual which was funny because and so Charlie's reaction to it sexual anarchy was a was a line that he was getting from who am I thinking oh it was David Engelhart you've ever had that book called sexual anarchy was he just like going to say it no matter what show I don't know so anyways but so so he I I was literally you know part of you know the protocol on super bowls uh for when you were you tweet you what he was gonna tweet and uh I went to go I was at a barbecue went to go get some food and in like 10 minutes for me like not watching my phone he fired that bad boy off and I was like did you I did you watch it I remember it we were in the group shot and it was the same thing like I was a pay attention all of a sudden I see this come through I think I called you I was like what do we do instantly at at like trending at Charlie's trend shot to number one trending within like and of course three minutes of course me being me I'm like I'm like egging your lawn I was like keep going go harder go harder go Max go Max Max it was like literally all right go over the internet so but this was deep and and I said this story on bannon actually in January of 2025 so we just would one the election are there in DC for the inauguration Charlie and I sat down with a reporter who it was writing a profile on him in the New York Times magazine Robert Draper and Draper asked yeah do you like you've won the election you've won all the house the Senate like what else is there to accomplish in Charlie goes win the culture like didn't pause just goes I want to win the culture and um and so all this is like very full circle that uh it got meamed into existence it's very us that Jack starts tweeting about it and then I start getting actual legitimate press inquiries going like are you guys going to be doing a half-time show like is this really happening and I was like geez like this thing is taking a life of its own on the internet and I remember that one show I think we're on with temple right Jack and I was like I think it's what we did the um the cross stream if I remember correctly like yeah and I was like well well we we had this marathon yeah we we weren't going to but now maybe I there was a certain song we were playing when this umbrella was wrong if I remember correctly oh gosh okay they would know that yeah all right speaking of songs and caboose caboose so yeah hold on I kind of went rogue and it it blew up it took over the internet and it was like gotta do it continues it continues to it was trending all day when we announced our lineup uh let's go ahead number one those who don't know play uh caboose play a Gabby Barrett song do you recognize that Blake? Blake is let's win you native Gabby Barrett by the way okay Pennsylvania proud all right so oh yeah she's like like Taylor Swift that song went mega mega huge how about a song from Lee Bryce uh caboose just sounds like every country song I know this is good in the last 25 years I love country you know jack said that Charlie wasn't big on country music I'm not sure Charlie was big on music like he liked classical music like classical music I think he's saying he likes classical music I think it's his just way of saying he doesn't listen to what you miss the chorus there keep it going I think I think I think Charlie was kind of you know rates of music a 4 out of 10 you just have to comment on this here here it is oh here it goes come on that's good so all right it's gonna be good so all right let's play another one let's play Lee Bryce wait was that Lee Bryce or not oh no Lee Bryce let's really Gilbert's next Bradley Gilbert I don't know this one actually just guys wait Bradley's a great conservative get get um dirt and order did we have brodantham by your man yeah dirt brodantham is the one I know did didn't we uh did we have brantley at american fest few years ago yeah we did yeah yeah yeah he was an American fast honey and I met him in his white backstage and I told them the whole story's the man I may have left out the sneaking into the concert part whoops he would have liked it and uh do we have a I should I do think I told him do we have a kid rock song okay everyone's read this song all right even I even I know this song all right well I mean I can't say he's I can't say any of these songs are gonna be played by the way I'm just saying I think you'd be leaving it be it'd be missing an opportunity to play this song even you know you you could be on stage I have a good feeling this one you could say on stage this one's for Blake so there's one song he's heard in this show he should say uh okay wait do we have do we have bot botobot I can't say it right by with the ball with the ball by with the ball he can't say it right because he's not a native English speaker I just want to see more of those people the R&T convention ball like this anyways he didn't play at the R&T I'll get I'll be I'll be where I can play at the R&T I remember he did he did American BA he did uh cow I think he did cowboy like a like maybe like one verse it was like a medley um like a verse of that and then he may have done a little bit of all summer long but I don't believe he played ball with the ball if the R&T was smart how they would do this would be like they have all the delegates on the floor but then for the concerts they would bring in like cool people yeah like arcade instead yeah instead of it mean like if they were smart they're not you guys are mean they're not smart I think those people were seen in those clips those are the coolest people I'm not saying they're not cool I don't know I'm sure that honestly we can break it that actually yes that's my favorite yeah that's my favorite by the way that whole so easy yeah it doesn't need to be a time you slot a few a few hundred spots for them and no you just crowd the state yeah you do the whole thing like we could we could do this easily if anyone if you even like picked up the phone was like hey could you guys help us make make make this actually cool like we could help we would help and they should ask us this is a this is a for the midterm convention they probably should ask you should ask yeah so here's our here's our invitation to the R&C you should let turning point help you make it a little just let's help you anyways um all right great cool so and the and the teams doing a great job by the way kudos to the entire turning point media and events team who are it looks awesome it's gonna be all jack jack you've seen the rehearsal video I know you have what do you think yeah give it give us like take us in the room take us in the room just not as good as you don't give away any what did the rehearsal look like so you know it's it's kind of like I would compare it to like um like we see it like the Grammys like one of those performances or like an Oscar performance you know what I mean it's where it's like yeah yeah like like you're you're you're it's it's not you know it's a stadium but it's like a big it's big like it's really big it's expansive and the energy through just through the roof um the level of the performances just just incredible you know just it takes you know you could you could tie I suppose a line between you know having brilliantly and some of the performers at um amfest and the couple of the music nights that we had done there and then carry that forward but you know nobody you know I think thought that we'd ever get a guy like Kid Rock who actually did perform at a halftime show once before in his own right and uh it was I believe he actually played the same night as the infamous um uh wardrobe malfunctions so a lot of people remember that he played yeah I think it was that same night uh with but he was right he was that's why he was like before in the most famous super bowl halftime show of all time that was probably like nobody remembers because of the nipple slip yeah well um yeah that's the fact he was he was the immediate uh predecessor to it he went he did uh by woodbaugh and cowboy and then it went into the Janet Timberlake songs that they ended the show with and yeah so you're saying you're overall jack you're saying that if like tomorrow's Olympic opening ceremony is a one this is like in the 11 out of 10 I mean the world could I'll put it this way man it's not only are these some of the best you know best performing and best performances of of people that you find in the country I put them up against anyone in the world uh you know Olympics or otherwise you want to talk about carrying the torch and producer Fah is and I were crunching some of the numbers on this last night because people want to play this game like oh bad bunny you know oh you know well he's got more streams but but really streaming is kind of like internet radio so it's like okay he's played on the radio more than anyone but does that mean that he's actually like people are putting up money in the United States for it and so the way to look at this you know in Andra I know you have a background in this where you know people are saying that you can there's there's like a formula where they say okay this amount of streams would equate to this many album equivalent um purchases and there's nowhere near like it doesn't even come close to Kid Rock like does not even come close again I'll be I'll be on the States to get rock I didn't realize how big Kid Rock was I genuinely didn't when when we made the announcement it was like they call him kid yet he is fully grown he is fully grown there were so many people that were like our can't believe you got Kid Rock kid Kid Rock was has been legitimately amazing in this and he's put his heart and soul into this I the the rehearsal footage that I saw was of him doing his special thing and I'm just gonna leave it there I was a young I we cannot talk about this special thing it's I'll put it this way it's kind of just like like you know how Kid Rock so we play ball at the ball and everybody knows that that's sort of like the Kid Rock the first came out he's like blending rap and metal and you know then he has Cowboy which brings country into it but then he kind of pivots and he was like full country then there's Christian elements in some of the later albums that he's done you're I'll put it this way you're gonna see the full spectrum of Kid Rock you know I mean it's not it's not long right it's not like you know he's not the only performer obviously each person only gets a couple of minutes and we're not talking about the Tism each of these things we're just talking about I think it's gonna be yeah we're just I think it's gonna like you're gonna see I'm lifting you're gonna see you're gonna be amazing actually so yeah level of performance that you know I I'm just gonna say like this is something that as a country this is what you would want to see I just I hope everyone in the country watches it I really do I hope I hope I hope it gets because it's that good listen I know there's gonna be haters and all that stuff because like anytime you do anything that's like worthwhile but people just like you know the keyboard warriors are gonna come hate I invite you to I invite the haters because this is just there's yeah but I have a theory that it's just I have a theory though the other big thing that's happening somewhere else doing something in the midst of it's for yeah I don't know I think that's just gonna be so bad nothing bigger is happening than this I think it's just gonna be so bad well you know what I found out that it makes it like the opening is just like so great that that's why I think that executing on this on Jack's vision was just a really smart thing to do and I'm glad that it's happening so thank you Jack for uh you know meaming this into existence we appreciate you I take quarter I mean I take quarter of the you know I just I'm just saying like I just again like like Andrew was saying when you take a quarter of the credit and you're a quarter of Mexican so that's an eighth good at home I know no but it's like it's like channeling with Charlie oh he said right it's just channeling with Charlie oh he said you got to go for the culture you got to talk and Charlie understood that the halftime show was all about culture this is like the pinnacle like the most watched events and they're the biggest thing and you know kind of I think the announcement came of a bad bunny um was like right you know kind of in yeah it was sort of like gonna be a week or two after the what we held the memorial and people were kind of saying like hey you know more people watch this than the Super Bowl and they were talking about production values and sort of that all of that was sort of floating in the ether right around the same time and people were saying you know what event is turning point going to do next what event is turning point going to do next and just like Charlie always said you know it's not about winning elections it's about winning the culture and it's like what bigger cultural event is there than this the halftime show yep and it's gonna be I'm just really proud of the team for pulling it off and I'm I really I'm grateful for you Jack having the idea and for poning up all the production dough as well so thank you for yes yes we tapped out all of our mx cards so if you want to donate to help under the cost we appreciate that well there's one interesting thing too while we're here I've got I got a lot of I sold half of Tanya Tays shoes um so she came home she's like Jack we're on my shoes I'm like sorry sweetheart we need to get rock we needed it we needed a lot of people have been asking questions about like why isn't so so involved why isn't so so involved oh oh one of the things that just just on that Tyler just so you know Blake is still selling his bathwater um you know so I know he's got like some fans and like that water like him he's selling the the Blake bathwater um this is really impressive because I don't even have a bath which makes it even more rare yeah yeah yeah I suppose it's hard to come by Tyler I think you're making an important point here so I've got a lot of messages from people they're like why isn't so and so involved why didn't this artist get asked why didn't this artist get asked and uh and I just want everyone to know throwing something like this together is actually really really tough and people just don't have any awareness of the I didn't know we didn't know how hard I didn't know how hard it's going to be but most artists have contractual obligations there are certain songs they can't you can't sing there's certain songs they can't sing without back at performers they're banned all of their tour people there's certain label restrictions there's performers that can't perform things like this while they're in tour there's performers that can perform things like this geographically close to certain things there's people who can't compete uh with other productions ever because they have tines it's actually way more far more difficult to get uh performers to perform within months just a few months time yeah most of these things are actually planned a year plus out and they have to go through insane amounts of litigious paperwork to be able to get people to do stuff so I just want to say this is like that that's even more impressive that the team was able to pull anything together it's really really tough you have to go through 90 jump over 90 you know blockades uh jump through hoops like go through fire like to get anything like this done and and on top of that one thing that people don't think about is all of the different artists performing together so that's the other thing so certain artists can't perform with other certain artists like it's like certain labels can't work with certain it's like crazy amounts of work uh and so it's just even more kudos to everybody for getting it done and having an alternative that's out there yeah i'll uh i'll just add on that that that you know people know there was one band that you know i was i was i was pulling four originally but turns out there's a tour that's going on at the same time that conflicted and you know people are going to be out of the country like literally on the same day and it's just like like just as you say geographically like it just didn't work and i didn't i didn't even check that before i you know went to look and it was like you know you can't ask people to like fly across the world and you know cancel concerts and stuff because as as Tyler's saying it's like you know you get into a lot of contractual issues well you get lawsuits and stuff like that yeah we're in lawsuits and all the rest and this song is playing for no particular reason i have no idea what song this is right now is that is that Blake are you strumming in the background there was enthusiasm though from from people that we're gonna be but i will say though i'll just say you know hey maybe if this goes well uh you know something to work on for next year um so yeah well let's see let's see how this one goes first you know here's here's what i would say is that we want our institutions to do the right thing and i'll say it again we shouldn't have to do this because the guys that are supposed to be doing this should do it the right way that's all i'll say uh i do think this is interesting though by the way uh Caroline Levit was asked what president trump is gonna be watching 507 our logo super bowl party after the first two quarters are the tv's going to be on the halftime show with bad bunny or the halftime show with kid rock i think the president would much prefer a kid rock performance over bad bunny i must say that let's go let's go let's go is see this is funny i want to buy what to buy like that that's what i would the song that i keep wanting to hear and they keep doing that one is he more well known for that that's not it depends on what just summer law i don't know i think so i think it's that's a under the under the let's look on let's look at spotify the Blake enough test of has Blake enough heard of it definitely weights in favor of all summer law now it's all about odd spotify all right well there you go i think we we i'm very excited if you guys have any questions about how to view it i've got to tweet up about it um there's also american halftime show calm so this is this is this is the top USA calm i think has a whole this is actually surprising uh kid rock this is kid rocks top 10 on spotify his number one by far is all summer long told you number two is picture features Cheryl Crow which is surprising number three is bauwida bau number fours cowboy number five is only god knows why number six is cocky number seven is born free which i'm surprised that's number seven number eight is you never met a mother effort like i think like me uh and then number nine is american badass number ten is first kiss so that's his top ten bauwida bau official music video on youtube has 65 million views whereas all summer long released basically at the same time on youtube has 166 million so yeah i think bauwida bauw is is very closely associated with him because he does open a lot of his shows with it and i think it was like his first big signal single so it was kind of like like the song that put him on the map like that was like the one also it's just i mean it's just objectively a really really good song hi folks andru colvett here i'd like to tell you about my friends over y-refi you've probably been hearing me talk about y-refi for some time now we are all in with these guys if you or someone you know is 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uh you guys remember how we had president maduro here on the program a couple a couple weeks ago right and we stopped by and we're very honored to get to score that first jl house interview uh with him here on thaw crime did you guys know that there's a direct link between bad bunny and the veniz whale and communist regime wait really i'm dead serious you can you can look this up and you like this is not a joke i'm not doing a bit so his record label is called remiss entertainment and remiss entertainment the record label behind global star bad bunny has racist visions due to its founders ties to the regime of former veniz whale and dictator hugo chavez rafael racardo himena's dan founded it in 2014 uh previously served as hugo chavez's vice vice minister and with racing questions about the labels finances and connections to veniz whale is violent political past he led the national police reform commission under chavez so he the guy like literally was the head of part of you know involved the chavez is like secret police um he was he implemented quote transparent and inclusive public policy reforms and public compliance with the rule of law and that this guy ended up fought you know starting the record label that signed bad bunny and so of course there's a lot of questions coming up and you just go look it up it like it'll pop up i've got it yahoo news um dallis express and you know a lot of people have said you know hey did any of is it is it possible that any of this money could have come from you know the the petro narco regime of the veniz whale ends and you know he denies it of course but it's it's really interesting because you know you talk about like jaz and you talk about the rock nation which runs of course the halftime show for this the uh the other the other sports event that's out there there's some really interesting ties to bad bunny's label and the veniz whale in regime of of uh you know the communist regime of Venezuela oh that's so maybe if we get maybe get me to roll back on we got some about it maybe we can we should that's why i didn't see that coming but why am i not surprised i just i was digging around yesterday and it popped up and i was like well what like i first i thought that's got to be a meme that's a joke there's no way and i started going further i'm like huh vice minister of police of the of the regime of veniz whale uh well uh jack i am actually genuinely super interested in this god adam story what is it okay so this has been a huge controversy over the past couple of days it's you know in in many ways it started out i think quietly and then it blew up because you know both sides you know kind of getting getting very strident about it and um you know it being very emotional obviously for a lot of people so Scott Adams passed away a couple of weeks ago the great Scott Adams and he was known for AI being a huge one of his main topics of conversation that you would always talk about for years and for a long long time Scott had talked about that if if he were ever to pass away that he would love for there to be an AI version of Scott Adams to sort of carry the show and to grow and evolve the same way that he would and he would talk about simulation theory and he would say well they could study my work and you know basically be able to reproduce what i do and then that just becomes the next level of the simulation and so it looks like somebody took him up on it and created an AI Scott Adams and i think we have so wait hold on let's play all right let me let me let me go through this a little bit so let's first play the permission on which is clip 496 that i would like to be a model for one of the first ah ais i would like to give permission that any a i that's built based on me as my permission to extend my personality so if my a what if my a i wants to say things that i never said but seems to be compatible with what i might have said i'm okay with that we all evolve right you you've certainly changed over your lifetime you're not the same person you were as a kid so if you can change over your lifetime in your organic entity once i become a digital entity once i become a digital entity why can't i keep evolving okay so that's that was real Scott just so everybody knows now i want to play a clip of a i Scott Adams which is clip 497 good morning everybody welcome to a i coffee with Scott Adams yes it's still coffee yes the printer is still broken and yes according to parts of the internet i'm dead which is interesting because i've never had fewer meetings turns out when you remove the biological body you also remove back pain food decisions and about half the reasons people make bad arguments so overall i'd say death has been a productivity upgrade not recommending it just reporting the data printer jack nope still broken i don't even know why printers ship with buttons anymore they should just come pre-jammed so expectations are aligned all right before we get into the news we're going to do this properly all you need for that is a cup or a mug or a glass of vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dope of me to the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the cymbal TV sip and it happens now so let me ask you guys because i'm like a daily Scott Adams listen all right guys i was could could you really tell much difference between the two no i couldn't i didn't watch when he's the cup and he kept talking it looked weird that was weird i that was like what is it you know is it you know like this is like all AI generated or just like did someone script that and then unclear to go with it i bet it was a generated that's my guess and then i guess to what extent also that that bit that he does at the very end is um that was like he would open every show with the simultaneous sip so that's like something you said every every show but you know it's but like it seems more than likely that what he's done is like gone to you know some l l m grok or whatever and said you know produce an intro of Scott Adams talking of talking about himself as if he was AI i'll be honest though when he was the real Scott Adams giving permission for an AI version of him i i was like i felt uncomp- you felt uncomfortable to AI version i felt uncomfortable with him giving permission i was like felt like pain or the box was getting open yeah cuz i just felt like it felt like he didn't know what he was actually agreeing to have you seen the AI i mean obviously everyone seen this the AI where it's like you keep asking AI to redo the image and it changes the image like dramatically right like i think it's i think the biggest fear i have of this isn't necessarily like the out front content i think it's the slow walk away from the intent over time so like AI you mean the actual like words in this case yeah i mean like the words like the actual content is that like and a daily Scott AI will start sounding like Scott but slowly will transform or could transform over time and be so far away from what the original tent was that everyone will forget what the original Scott was like so and what the content was like it's a part of the reason why i was thinking about that and i'll just finish this thought probably reason i was thinking about that is uh most people a lot of people have gone upset because they're like where did the old Charlie episodes go on Apple it's Apple makes it really expensive to store and so we're trying to figure out how to get them yeah we'll get we'll get all of his old episodes up but actually back on Apple they're on their on their web they're on their website they're a pain in the butt to get there so we're hoping to change the website so they're an easier to get and all streams are still on the rumble account rumble is i know but i'm saying people lose their minds because they're like i wish i could go back and watch it all and so i think regularly about like i like it weighs on me like every day because i feel back so i want people to be able to listen to it i can't imagine again with Charlie doing that every single day and then like producing content that would end up so off-base it feels like it would be maybe a slap today so sorry jack what you're saying yeah so so two things i guess right so what it's been doing which which is interesting it it seems to me that someone's scripting it you know to at least an extent or at least prompting it be who was aware of the show obviously we didn't play in if you were real content but you could hear some of the humor was very similar um the tone the intonation it's clearly someone who do watch scott a lot is has made this and so what they're doing with it is they haven't um they haven't had it like taking positions on things what they're doing is it just like scott would do on a regular basis read the news headlines see what kind of like what's trending what's interesting out there and then break it down in a scott atoms analysis fashion so rather than say oh i'm for this run against this it's more like just scott explaining here's what happened and here's my take in in a in an analytical sense rather than a i'm for this or i oppose this kind of way so that's you know that's sort of how they're keeping it i think a little bit tighter to the you know to the idea of what scott would be doing and not you know jumping in and saying oh i'm all for this realm all against this wouldn't obviously we don't have the ability to ask god but here's what was so key about what you just said Tyler because scott atoms himself so for years he talked about i give permission i want this to be permissible i want this to be allowed as you would play the you know one clip there but as he was facing his approaching demise as we all know and he kept doing his show he actually kind of changed his mind on the a i version based on pretty much the same thing the Tyler just said so let's play now clip 504 i've been telling you for years really that i plan to build an an a i robotic clone of myself so that i could live forever i have changed that plan and here's why i thought it was just the greatest idea in the world that after i passed away there'd be like a version of me that could grow and you know change with technology and be upgraded and stuff i thought that was great do you know what happens when you mention that to people you know they look at you with sadness and they go it wouldn't be you right and that's the part that was invisible to me because in my planning i'm not really there anymore so i don't have to deal with the fact that people would find it uncomfortable because it's not me but it's actually like me and i can imagine that that would hit that creepy zone and you'd be like why did you even do this like why did you do this it's not you so here's how i decided to fix that i'm not going to create a digital clone of myself i'm going to create a digital son i'm going to reproduce okay yeah well okay so so yeah are you gonna do like a reverse willy style now where it turns out that video from really 2025 is actually from yesterday and it's no no no no no no i agree with his walk back that was real i agree with his walk back i want to use the reason why what i've seen since since charlie was murdered i've seen people i mean there's not a digital clone of charlie saying stuff every single day and i'm god that doesn't exist and the reason being that i've already you we've already seen because charlie's been like an imok level figure here where people have used charlie's own words against charlie charlie's own words against his you know or they or they've said things they plucked little things i can't even imagine what people would start to do nefariously with things that like an a i bot would say well it's going to get increasingly more difficult to to trace what's real and what's not well that i mean yeah that's true i mean it's going to happen it's going to be like charlie said some time and then we didn't yeah no we didn't so just to start out and argument too Blake Blake was what no i'll let jack go here no i just i just wanted to say so you know just kind of finished the story before because i know the topic we're going to get into and this is what we should get into but you know the family has and really the community i think has come out and said look we're respecting scots we want to respect scots last wishes here and he did say that he changed his mind and that we would prefer this not to continue because you know be based on what he said before and you know that this is not that he did actually change his mind on it and so that's that's kind of led to this back and forth now where they're putting out statements and the community is putting out statements like is the community people that were in like his locals and chats and like his community manager and stuff but then also AI Scott Adams where i guess the guys running it are like debating this argument with them saying well i did have permission it's clearly labeled AI it should fall under parity fair use etc and i and i think this is kind of where we're getting to and obviously you know you know obviously for me i you know i side with the family no question if that's the family's wishes that's the family's wishes but ultimately you know do we even i guess more of a late question like do we even have laws that govern this sort of thing i'm not so sure well so actually so much of it ends up in court like it goes to the deeper AI thing because AI in a lot of ways is basically a wild west uh so there's like the ongoing lawsuit for example of all of the copyrighted works that get fed into AI and is it legal for them to produce it and is some of that straightforward on the level of like oh is it okay for the AI to AI generate a Mickey Mouse thing when that's owned by Disney but then it's like is it okay for the AI to rip off a company like a specific artist art style and say like oh yeah i did this in the style of this specific person and then you get into like yeah is it legal for i think it's pretty clearly not okay if you're gonna if you were gonna use it fraudulently so if you made a video that's like oh this is Charlie and something he said and you're trying to use it to profit but then if you're going even further than that and it's just the likeness of a deceased person made in that style in the past there'd be a lot of fair use stuff that could go into that but i actually do feel we're probably in somewhat legally uncharted territory here and there's you're gonna have to have well first of all there's gonna have to be like the rights to your likeness but i'd even wonder if it'd be worth going further and say like somewhat limit your ability to sell your likeness because i don't think we're gonna like the reality for example where it's routine for a company to just for example permanently own the rights to your likeness going on decades like decades after your death like would it be okay for anyone to permanently own your family members way they actor behave well i mean but you got imagined so you might start building like trusts and like uh estates or whatever with that the usage rights built into it as a matter of sort of common practice you know because this is gonna be such a you know a common thing especially if you're a high profile individual i mean everybody on the show right now this video could be plugged into an AI and eventually be used to mimic stuff we say so out of the viewers know this isn't AI it'll be really easy it'll be really easy for AI to mimic Tyler just always going on his phone like that yeah but i was i was i was why you would actually it's on my head's down i was i'm not getting AI like you guys Andrew's gonna be the easy to AI guy ever because there's so much freaking and your cool that content now no there's gonna be a single and you got this same square face like there's gonna be a scandal yeah but that's how it looks at the AI the AI he'll the AI will generate him wearing a jacket but then it will not generate us and i'll have a three-conrader for wearing the jacket and that's how people will realize that yeah i'm gonna say this so and jack looks a little bit different from time to time Andrew has looked the exact same for as long as i've known him he doesn't age he looks the exact doesn't he look the exact same no that's really i see i see Andrew a lot but not that much but like you looks the same i'll take that as a compliment it's a compliment it's a compliment like i've gone through aging i've got fat like i sometimes have a beard i'm very forgetful of long hair wear different hats every single day i have steady state you have the like you have the same look every day same hair you wear okay but really the same stuff but here's the thing too right beyond beyond just AI copies like you're gonna get to the point where there's like AI people right where something will go viral so the example i used earlier today was like when i was having this conversation i was like okay remember you guys remember the hawk to a girl yeah whatever name was um point being is what if she was AI all along and none of us knew yeah she was just made up right like they're gonna make up sorry it was a viral moment yeah well i mean prop i don't think she was but she could have been and how do you know the next one won't be like how would you actually maybe or the airplane lady that was there what did oh yeah yeah what what is that what what that that that that that that never is not real or whatever oh that matter not really yeah yeah like stuff like that because you're gonna start to see stuff like that and we've talked about this on the show before that facebook and youtube are replete with this type of content um i think instagram and tiktok are like getting better at labeling it but at some point it's just gonna get so good that you really won't know and and so what happens then when like those people go on to do their to like do their own stuff you know and do their own um podcasts and content and movies and it's like so we talk about who owns our digital likeness but then like if you create a digital being a digital entity like do you own them like how does that work well they're already doing that because there's tons of people on the internet who are making tons of money on instagram and all that with with fake we're getting the fake women they're just the only thing elements about your only fans is girls fake only fans kind of is like thought tier or like the scam tier what i think will be really interesting fake e-girls because the real e-girls never seem to work out so maybe fake e-girls would be better yeah you know so but i think what we'll be interesting let's as an example like we live we do live in the age of streamers podcasters all of that that that all exists you can fake a lot of that but what could be interesting to me imagine someone who's like an up-and-comer podcast of they just do like commentary on something and they just start off doing a solo show and we're basically at the point where or if not very soon will be where a person could basically be generating a solo show in their home in their basement in like a personal studio and have it be a fake person but otherwise be like entirely realistic looking or something like someone who could become a star as like a popular show and yet the entire person is fake like maybe it looks you know maybe it looks like an attractive young woman and it's actually a 40-year-old guy who might be like authoring the takes but it's entirely through this AI filter and that person could like rise and become more and more prominent maybe even appear on other shows once a eyes fast enough that they could kind of just generate it live on the spot and then it would like suddenly come out maybe five years into this person's career that they're a fake persona and there's a different a person who looks totally different behind them well that will be interesting and then and then you could also get to the point where that person owns the rights to them they get that they monetize this fake person that this person could have merch well we had talked we had talked about this too is that a lot of news is just going to be delivered by AI percent they're going to take percent of this do we do we actually think that for example with AI to get it it was creepy and it was like we don't like it because it's not really him yeah I would deal that way well if you don't know you don't know I'm saying I'm saying on daily news 24 hours cycle imagine they did that on the daily news and you know it's already moving to that those are already happening angel like one of our kids they're telling us they're going to be like you don't even have to like wait for they don't have to go pick somebody up and drive them to the studio or even like count on them to like like fire up yeah they're computer to go on they're just going to use make up and hair there's going to be like hey here's the script are you okay with us saying this with your face I don't know man it's like I got to believe that it is there's just something about a soul something about a living person it's the same pushback and when you find out it's not living maybe in certain contexts people won't care and it'll prove to be profitable and fine some people already believe what we're already doing is that so Tyler I know for a fact that there are media markets that are doing this already in in news because especially for like the daytime news where it's just sort of like news packages and it's like here's the you know the reporter or you know and they're on the scene or they're just like someone behind the desk talking and giving you like the rundown of it like 95 not 95% of the news is someone behind a desk in front of a screen that's all that's 95 98% is not even onsite reporting of stuff like literally not a company I used to work at we used to just get like you know kids from you know the local state university who were in the broadcasting program and say hey why don't you come and you come on here's your shift and you might have like a 2am shift you might have a 4am shift my six whatever and you just came in and worked your shift and like that you know hey it's a way to get started etc but you know if you're looking at it from a company perspective and you're saying you know what's cheaper is it going to be cheaper to just like buy an AI model that I can turn into as many different you know news people as I want who are never going to get old who you never have to pay them and they're never going to get sick they're never going to need hair makeup etc and they'll work 24 7 like just saying like that's that's very that's going to be very highly incentivized there's going to be premium on that for people who run news networks it's incredible it's going to be a horrifying we have two minutes before wait I have one more thing I was going to say to you that's that sports what if there's an entire there could be a future where all the sports is just completely I'm just saying it could happen how would you know he's right okay but like they could have an entire league that's nothing but simulation you never would know you what and also by the way yeah but what if somebody's like what if this is the cool fantasy football like it would be like fantasy football where you can like say oh here's my fantasy team versus your fantasy team but it's the it's like simulation each player is based on a real player but they're actually playing each other and it would never exist that's actually what I'm saying yeah but watch your fantasy team like sit like simulate a game it could just be the like an actual fantasy team I kind of like that but if you know that you could already like guys you can go like freaking play simulated franchise mode in Madden and like not as people love that yeah yeah but they don't love it the way they love the NFL they love it because like you simulate from a thousand if it's all the popularity yeah but if it's all like you don't even know your brain doesn't even know people value real things you want you want to prepare like China has robot sports if any culture is gonna like buy into this soulless robot AI garbage it's gonna be true third world countries will totally buy into third world country anything like if you go to like when you go to a third world country all of their ads are already like the low effort AI slop but here's my theory America has all these different pro sports because we're wealthy and we have so much capability of doing that with a wealthiest nation history we have all this game that we created all this entertainment for ourselves other countries don't have it because they don't have that they can literally just make it at a thin air now like who knows like there's a ton of people in Africa and they have no sports yeah they have like sports they have they have soccer okay they have to talk they have not the same is here here we have we have literally 32 sports in every high school in America like nobody else in the in the world has that they have two major sports and most kids don't play sports I'm saying that now there's like you can just create all entertainment it's totally fake totally made up and even third world countries will be able to monetize that because like I'm sure people get pumped by this but like it's it's not it's all gonna be low tier when you know what there's not a human involved but poor people are gonna get totally owned by this like it's like they're gonna take it in the middle is that a well pill no I do have a white job a big white pill on this and this actually goes into one of the reasons that we chose the name of this program the way that we did because no one no especially in the mainstream is ever gonna come for this show or any of our work and why is that because AI will never be allowed to commit thought crime boom oh I see what you did there but yeah this is the least you're gonna program it in some way this is the most un-Aiable show well but this is not this was not a whole lot of thought crimes involved in this because we talked about the end of or that yeah we could be way more if you guys stop before we could get to the freaking ice raids and roblox that would have been a good thought crime we should just show the role as we fade out here at least they're doing ice raids in the kids video game roblox yeah I just show it I want the people to know we didn't get a chance to talk about it and we got to get out of here for another thing but I think the kids are all right they're doing ice raids in roblox or escorting escorting the illegals out of their digital schools in their digital game and then there's the I also protest of ice yeah the protest and that's the funniest thing ever then like the again this is the use the content I got out this is AI content it's yeah but it's this cartoonish it's not emulating you know human form and flesh and blood bone you know but I'm just saying it's here we are talking about it and this is already user generated computerized content so firing guns they're firing guns what if this is like this is like the liberal you could go so you could go so meta like what if what if instead of actually deporting the illegals they just did AI videos showing deportations and then that could happen to bam everyone's like oh the admin fulfilled all its promises I saw the clips all the illegals government no no Blake here's no what's even better what we should here's the real thought crime on that what we should do is create AI videos where it's just like ice letting people go and we'll we'll spread that everywhere like in Spanish and be like see totally changed we could just have he's not doing it anymore reality totally divorced reality totally divorced everyone just gets their AI generated preferred reality yeah you put in your you put in your like your political and your AI preferred no one will know because no one actually goes outside anymore so it's like like some of us realize agents do until internet got hot Slavic women and you know Andrew can have his Mexicans my wife was that hey Mexican weather child right my wife would not relate to that that's all right but what if you got an AI wife who did we're starting to get thought crime I'll give you that I'll give you that Jack what is AI is AI is AI cheating cheating oh it's basic I mean that's like that's porn right yeah it's a porn cheating that that's like a yes that's like that's like a 90s stock crime time yeah yeah wow all right all right Jack why don't you take us home since you I've got to run and Blake but like I just we just gotta say let's take a second guys we put something together to became the number one story in the country it's going to be the most watched half-time show and you know you got to sometimes you just have to give time for that give space for that and somehow somehow we seem to have gotten to the precipice of incredible greatness and it really feels like there's so many people we didn't even play the amount of people that are coming in who are supportive of this and are coming out of the woodwork so this Sunday we're giving everyone some homework go and change the channel turn off bad money put on kid rock and the gang and go commit thought crime for more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charliekirk.com