Nightcap Hour 3: DeMar DeRozan CLAPS BACK at Fan + Rory McIIroy WINS Back 2 Back MASTERS
49 min
•Apr 13, 20265 days agoSummary
The Nightcap Hour 3 episode features hosts discussing DeMar DeRozan's potential to enter the NBA's all-time scoring top 10, Rory McIlroy's back-to-back Masters victories, and various sports comparisons. The hosts engage with fan questions via video submissions and super chats, covering topics ranging from player legacies to personal fitness goals and upcoming birthday celebrations.
Insights
- Modern athletes achieve statistical milestones more frequently due to improved training, nutrition, longer careers, and increased game volume—not necessarily superior talent compared to historical greats
- Record-breaking in sports is inevitable as the game evolves; statistical comparisons across eras require context about rule changes and playing conditions rather than dismissing newer achievements
- Consistency in elite performance (as exemplified by Rory McIlroy's back-to-back Masters wins) requires obsessive dedication—professional athletes invest 4-6+ hours daily in skill development
- Athlete earning potential has fundamentally changed career longevity incentives; modern players prioritize financial security over early retirement, extending careers and inflating career statistics
- Legacy appreciation often requires temporal distance; greatness is frequently undervalued in real-time and only properly recognized after retirement
Trends
Statistical records becoming more accessible due to extended playing careers and increased game frequency in modern sportsLongevity as competitive advantage—athletes staying healthy and motivated longer than predecessors due to sports science advancesNostalgia bias in sports fandom—tendency to undervalue contemporary greatness while overvaluing historical achievementsFinancial incentives driving career extension—multi-year contracts and endorsement deals encouraging athletes to play longerCross-generational player comparisons becoming more complex as rule changes and game evolution make direct statistical comparison problematic
Topics
NBA All-Time Scoring Records and Statistical MilestonesDeMar DeRozan Career Trajectory and Top 10 Scoring PotentialRory McIlroy Masters Championship Performance and Golf ConsistencyBack-to-Back Championship Achievement in Professional SportsModern vs. Historical Athlete Performance ComparisonCareer Longevity and Extended Playing Years in Professional SportsJason Tatum Earnings and Supermax Contract NegotiationsGolf Training Regimen and Skill Development RequirementsBrandon Roy Career and Injury Impact on LegacyPoint Guard Rankings and MVP ConsiderationOne-on-One Basketball Competition and Competitive DynamicsMarch Madness Bracket Predictions and Sports BettingNBA Playoff Predictions and Team Performance AnalysisPersonal Fitness Goals and Strength TrainingSports Legacy and Historical Player Appreciation
Companies
Booking.com
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Netflix
Mentioned as airing a documentary about the Portland Trail Blazers this week
People
DeMar DeRozan
Discussed for potentially entering NBA all-time scoring top 10 with 18 PPG average over 105 games
Rory McIlroy
Won back-to-back Masters championships, becoming fourth golfer to achieve this feat since 1965
Jason Tatum
Discussed as already in top 10 money earners despite not being 30 years old; projected to earn over 1 billion in NBA ...
Tiger Woods
Referenced for back-to-back Masters wins in 2001-2002 and historical dominance in golf
Brandon Roy
Discussed as a 'what if' player whose career was cut short by knee injuries while playing for Portland Trail Blazers
Scotty Pippen
Mentioned as playing for Portland Trail Blazers during host's rookie year
Shaquille O'Neal
Referenced in context of 2000 Western Conference Finals when Portland collapsed against Lakers
Allen Iverson
Mentioned as comparison for playing style and doing things one's own way
Luka Doncic
Referenced as comparison for ability to start and stop in basketball
Jack Nicklaus
Referenced for back-to-back Masters wins in 1965-1966
Nick Faldo
Referenced for back-to-back Masters wins in 1989-1990
Phil Mickelson
Referenced for winning a major championship at age 50
Michael Jordan
Referenced in context of Jordan brand athlete history and career comparisons
Kobe Bryant
Mentioned in competitive comparison discussion with host during prime years
LeBron James
Discussed regarding appreciation of greatness and whether he receives proper recognition during playing career
Serena Williams
Referenced as example of athlete whose dominance is better appreciated after retirement
Michael Phelps
Referenced as example of greatness not fully appreciated in real-time (8 gold medals)
Andre Johnson
Referenced as comparison for playing style and ability
Quotes
"Who in the hell you have an opinion on somebody's career clown? Who is it? Somebody tweeted. Demargin Rosen. If he averaged 100, so basically if he plays two more years, average 18 points a game, he's going to crack the top 10 and score."
Host•Early segment
"The game. Look at all these guys that's passing Marino and passing touchdowns and passing yards. That passed L weight. Game different. What are we doing?"
Host•DeMar DeRozan discussion
"These guys no more. These guys are in better shape. They eat different. They train different. They gain faster. The game and plus the money is so great."
Host•Modern athlete discussion
"It's hard to be consistent. Yeah. As difficult as the game is, as great as all the players are, it's very difficult to be consistent."
Host•Golf consistency discussion
"You gotta put some real time in with that golf, boy. Oh, hell yeah. I'm talking about, I ain't talking about no two hours needed. I'm talking about, yeah, four, five, six hours. Yeah. A day."
Host•Golf training discussion
Full Transcript
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I find this deeply disturbing. Disturbing? F you mean? Who in the hell you have an opinion on somebody's career clown? Who is it? Somebody tweeted. Demargin Rosen. If he averaged 100, so basically if he plays two more years, average 18 points a game, he's going to crack the top 10 and score. And the guy says, well, I find that disturbing because this man's going to pass Shat. There are. It's a different game. Very good. And he's still playing. He's still putting the ball in the bucket at an elite level. Yeah. Okay. There are a lot of players that's going to pass some perennial greats. As far as passing touchdowns, receiving touchdowns, rushing touchdowns. That doesn't mean that they're better player. Yeah. The game. Look at all these guys that's passing Marino and passing touchdowns and passing yards. That passed L weight. Game different. What are we doing? Yeah. I mean, you don't say, I mean, did you send the record for perpetuity? Did you think like nobody saw that the words whatever the record was, it's going to be frozen in time so nobody can crack the top 10, but the top 10. Yeah, it's more so the name. Yes. That's all. These guys no more. These guys are in better shape. They eat different. They train different. They gain faster. The game and plus the money is so great. Now is that, bro, I'm going to make, I'm going to try to make this 20 million have a lot of money. Money than making. I'm going to try to make this as long as I possibly can. You hear me? If you're a good player now, Joe and no Joe, if you don't make $6,700 million, you need your ass whip. Boy, that able to have contract and just locking in. Yeah, locking in, bro. Good. Jason Tatum is already in the top 10 of money earned and he ain't even 30. Jason Tatum going to get a crack a billion dollars in NBA salary. Yes. He's going to probably get him another 250. He's going to get another Supermax. Damn. Yeah. Okay. The Marty Rosen 16. He's going to pass a lot of people. Yeah. Hell, he play another three, four years. Hell, he might pass. We'll Chamberlain. What the hell? I would. I would moral this one. Well, Roy McElroy had to wait more than a decade to win the Masters and complete the first Grand Slam. But guess what? He went back to back. He only had a way to wait a year to take his second trophy because he becomes the first back to back champion since Tiger was completed the feet in 2001, 2002. Now he joins Jack Nicklaus in 65, 66, Nick Fowdo 89, 90, Tiger 0102. And now Rory McElroy does it. Rory won his sixth major title, his second or a Masters title in the last 12 months, which has firmly planted himself among the 10 best golfers of all time. The question is, how high can he climb? He just back to back. He's back to back. So he's only the fourth golfer to ever go back to back at the Masters. He already has six major titles and he's already completed the slam. So he's won the British Open, the US Open, the PGA and the Masters. And two of those are Masters. How does Roy? Got to be 30. And then you know, you get, you get four cracks a year. How is Roy? 30, 31, 36, 36. 36. 36. Hell, you know, Phil, Phil won a major damn there at 50. So you can play golf for a long, long, long after. Long time. Damn. You know, the funny thing about golf too, it's hard to be consistent. Yeah. As difficult as the game is, as great as all the players are, it's very difficult to be consistent. You gotta put some... You gotta compete against the other guys. They're playing the course. They're playing the same course. Yeah. Hey, you gotta put some real time in with that golf, boy. Oh, hell yeah. I'm talking about, I ain't talking about no two hours needed. I'm talking about, yeah, four, five, six hours. Yeah. A day. Yes. Puttin', chippin'. You wear just use irons, fair way. Yes, yes. You gotta put some time. You got basically, basically, basically, you become obsessed. Yeah. It's just like anything, a basketball player, football player, tennis. How much time you think Serena and Venus put in? How much you think Alcoraz and Center and Federer and Nadal and Jokovic, how much time you think they put in to get great at that? And listen, hey, I got homies who play golf. They don't put them boys to be out there eight hours, man. Yeah. Yeah. They playing for fun too, huh? They bragging rights, fun, they gambling, they doing all type, everything going on. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I never, you know, my brother loves it. He's addicted to it. You know, he's got a bill back up because he had to take that time off for his eye. He had, you know, three or four eye surgeries. He had to detach retina and, you know, he had to be faced down for 20 plus hours a day. And so he had, he's got a bill back up, but he loves, he's back out there now, but he love it. Man, bro, you need to come out here and join me. Click. Let me hang up on you right quick. I ain't coming out here, man. I'll, I'll grew up in the south, grew up in the sun. I can't take the sun like that. No more. Yeah. Man, I grew up to my, you got to think about it. No, Joe, from the time I can remember until I retired at 35, I've been in the sun. So I was in the sun 30 plus years. I can't do the sun no more. Son beat my ass. Man, it, man, it'd be so hot in the garage like, damn. Hey, I can't get it. I can't Joe. I can't get in the golf until I can't move no more, man. Yeah. I can't, I can't. I go, I, when I, I can't be able to run. I can't be able to do nothing. Okay. I can't, it just ain't no movement for me, Joe. I got to be moving around. I got to be doing something. Man, golf, golf, a patient game, bro. You ain't got no patients. Oh, Joe, you ain't, yeah, you can't do it. No, I just go to top golf and hit the ball, eat. Hey, look, I like doing that too. The way you play. I do that. I can do that. Y'all to mess my leg up, play bowling. I don't even know how to play. I can hit the golf ball. Oh man. Come on. Y'all ruin me. I don't know what I'm going to do, man. Y'all done cost me a couple of days, couple of, I got to get right. I got my birthday coming up. I got to get in shape. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. What you doing with your birthday? Yeah. That's about it. I ain't doing too much. No, I got, look, I'm saying, I got, hold on. What's the day of? What's the day's date? Day to 13. Day to 13. Okay. How many, how many days in this month? 31 to 30. April 30th, April 31st, April 30th. 30. Okay. They got 30. They got 31 in May. So I got no 17. May 31. That's 48. My birthday. So I got about, I got about two. I got about 10 weeks. Okay. I'm going to see what I can do. I'm going to see if I can, I'm going to see if I can peel this on you one more time. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to see if I can peel this on you one more time. Yeah. I'm peeling the eight. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, you peeling the onion, but what you peeling the onion for to do what? You got to be, you got to have, you got to have. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to try to tell you, I'm going to shake the cover for a dog. That's it? That's it. That's all I, oh, oh, that's all like, hey, like you'll say, slow motion better than no motion. Hello. I got some motion though, but it's slow. At least take a nice little trip somewhere, man. I mean, you know, you know, I'm trying to, from the living room to the balcony. That's a trip. I got to build my strength back up. They don't right leg, you know, it feels a little better. Oh, so I got to get back in there and squat. I got to get my, you know, yeah, yeah. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. You know, I ain't, I ain't what I once was, but I'm better than 99% of the more folks that I will be. There you go. There you go. No, no, no, no, ain't nothing. Yeah. Ain't no, ain't no slow by that old shade, but it won't right now. Oh, that boy, that boy, that boy by the turn 58. Oh yeah. He put a cut of rug. Hey, look, I'm about to turn four, five over here, man. I'm about to do a little something too. I'm going to throw this thing over here. You hear me? Throw this thing over here. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, Joe, you in June too, right? 29th. 29th of June. Okay. I'm the 26th. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Hey, let's have a party. I think your birthday the same day as John L. Ways. Joe. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. You got to go to the 26th. He's the 29th. I think I didn't tell you, but you got the same birthday as my best friend, phone. Yeah. Well, I'll be there. I'll be there. You have a little something to crib. I don't have a little something. You know what I mean? I'm going to have a little something to do. I can come, Joe. We are going to have to see. Oh, Joe. You got to see your rap. Your rap sheet ain't that great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see you $200 already. I don't want it. I don't want to take it back. Yeah. I don't want it. I can't. Well, I can't wait to that party on the 26th. I'm going to be there. What? Oh, yeah. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Hey. Before we get to our super chats, we've got four video boards mail from our discord. Make sure you check out our discord and maybe we'll. This one of your videos. Here's the first one. Let's take a listen. What's up? Oh, what's up? Oh, Joe. I saw I got a question for you, man. Oh, I want some of your highlights today, man. One of the greatest players I ever seen. I don't see how you got the name ISO, but I know how you got the name ISO, but they should have called your buzzer be the dog. You use clean at buzz, beating them buzzers. But my question is in your prime, enjoying prime and Kobe prime, best out of five. Do you think you could beat one of them? Best out of five and how many games do you think you could have won? I think you could have won five without love, but I want to know what you think. Yeah, yeah, I kicked the ass. Yeah, yeah, I thought. Hey, talk that talk that shit. Look, I got a chance to compete against Kobe numerous occasions. I had some great battles with him, but I think what people understand from a two guard standpoint, when I first came into league, Uncle Ojo, I was a strictly two guard. I wasn't playing really small for a powerful right. Coming to about 12, 13 years on down the line. So me being a big two guard, I'm by the biggest two guard in the league. Guys couldn't guard me. I post up, shoot the three had a nice handle. I could get to wherever I wanted to. So I never had a problem with guys like that. You know what I mean? Would they give me problems? Yeah, but for the most part, I always feel like a whole my own for sure. Yeah, who am I, Joe? That was a first here that's a let's take a listen. Night cab big three. What's good with y'all, man? Isaiah tapping in again from Northern California. Look, man, I got a bone to pick with Uncle Joe and the chat. I don't think I've seen any of y'all give Ocho any kind of support. Y'all just be thinking this man lying just a lie. And he doesn't mean what he says and he doesn't, you know, he doesn't say what he means. Look, man, hey, Joe, you gonna find out when he gets you on that court. And when he gets you in that ring and I hope Ocho do some work on you because you was hating on my take last week about Kelton Johnson winning six man of the year dog. Like you was naming everybody except Kelton Johnson, man. You rooting against your own cousin winning six man of the year. That's crazy dog. Hey, Ocho, handle this man, Joe, bro. Handle Joe for me. Hey, I support you, Ocho from the Bay Area today. County love. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, Ocho, you better tell your man he might want to stay out this mess. Okay. He might want to he might want to stay out this mess. God, I'm gonna get ugly. Oh, it ain't gonna get ugly. It's gonna get ugly. Get up. No, no, no, no, no, Joe. He right. He right. And listen, all I need is one supporter. That's all I need. I don't need everybody to support me. I enjoy being the bad guy. I enjoy being the villain. You hear me? And you got to look at you. But one thing about it is when we touch that court, when we touch that court and you see them tassels, we see them tassels, you know what time it is. Hey, look. Hey, and this here, Joe, but you don't want none of this, Joe. Hey, that's all I need. All I need is for one person to piss me off. And when I get pissed off, I'm talking about I'm a go berserk. I'm telling you that now. Well, you got to him and Joe. He met a, uh, oh, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So somebody has in trouble. That's all I got to say. All right. Keep that. Keep that same energy now. I'm just letting you know. Yeah. Same energy. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen. Make overnight shifts go by so fast. Laughing at job. My question is Joe, you were a Jordan brand athlete. So I'm sure you've collected a lot of cool kicks over the years. And I'm gonna go on. No sneaker. So I had like a battle. What do you think? I think it's the sneakers. Yeah. I don't really know. I sold a bunch of mine. Yeah. Me too. I sold, I sold 300. I think 313 or 323 pairs. You did. You did. I did an auction. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I just didn't have Jordan. I had like air maxes. I had like air ones. I had 95s, 97. So I had a bunch of stuff. I had bronze. I had some exclusive stuff from a Edison chain, not just a Vesta. I mean, I had a lot of stuff. Yeah. I mean, still a lot of, I mean, like I had the OGs, like the cool graves, like when they came out, not the retro. Yeah. It's reds and C-mits. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of player edition shoes that, you know, they only made for like, for us guys, you know, different, like I play here in Atlanta. So I had like the Atlanta colors, things of that sort. So I had some pretty exclusive stuff. But like, like you said, I had, I didn't got rid of so much, so much of that stuff. I don't nearly have as much as I used to have. You know what I mean? Yeah. I still, I still got, I still got some stuff I need to get rid of. Because I mean, when it comes down to it, oh, Joey, Joe, I just wear the same sneakers. Yeah. I ain't been to go, I ain't been to go through all them boxes. You know, I still, I still got some exclusive stuff. I still like to got the, the Jordan Olympics, the mirror rolls. And I got the, I still got the, the Doren Becker's, the Superman. So I got like, dunk stuff, organ dunk stuff. Yeah. I'm probably going to get up off that too in the next probably year or two. Yeah. Hey, Joe, Uncle Joe, I didn't simplify my closet. My closet is about three different, three different styles. Yeah. Nike Air Force ones, my black trucks and my white trucks, a high top pair and a low top pair. Yeah. You know, a bunch of Adidas Sambas. Man, listen. Literally, that's it. Now you obviously dress shoes and a pair of boots. Hey, look, I'm willing to get rid of a lot more, but I wear a damn size 16 and I ain't many people wear those 16. You know what I mean? So I'm stuck with a lot. I don't got homeboys who wear 16. None of my kids, you know, so a lot of just kind of sitting. Yeah, but not 16, but you're going to be kind of slow trying to stay with me. Hey, hey, yeah. All right. Okay. But size 16, but you're going to be two, you're going to be about two, three steps behind Joe. Yeah. Here's our fourth and final one. Let's take a listen. Uncle, Ocho, Iso, what did do King Iso, my bad. I love y'all. Love y'all to death, especially you, but I got some smoke for you. My boy, I got some smoke. Listen for one, you owe my uncle some money and two, you owe the annoying tick one. Some money too, because you ain't getting away with them tickets, but when I'm off of them tickets, I listen. Yeah. So it's only going to settle this. Not only is he going to get you a one-on-one because you know, child, I love you again. It's from the heart, but you ain't got no chance. But anyways, this is what we're going to do. We're going to tie your left hand behind your back. You got three minutes. Uncle, Joe, we're going to give love to this all piece. She had to say mine. You understand? Love y'all. Keep doing what you're doing. I listen to you guys every day. I drive a truck for Amazon. So yeah, y'all get me through my day. Love. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, stop leaving a package at the front gate. Yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah. You got the cold break that's what we put on the damn porch. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? He just pissed me off. Huh? Hey, people bryson just pissed me off. He done made it worse for you. Huh? Yeah, people bryson made it worse for you, Joe. Yeah, it's all in that. Sam the grand ain't up. If the Lakers managed to win the first round series against Houston, you got to break out the gold mask for night camp. Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you to the cat bird system under the few today. Yeah, we got you. We got something I need to get me a whole man. He went the first round series. I might break out a whole goat costume. I might get a goat. You go to the like I had on the disputed. You go go get you a goat with a little baby goat. Yep. Well, hey, because if they if they pull it out, that mean Brian doesn't have a ship for it for it for sure. Uh, EJ 71. What's up? What's up guys? Love the show. Make a live jar for Ocho $200 per line and split it after the year. First of all, Ocho was supposed to start a swear jar. He started that the first year. Me ain't no money. What a jar. Oh, no, I talked to my therapist. My therapist said I need to express myself in all ways I can. And so part of me expressing myself, even though I have an extensive vocabulary, you know, people think because you curse, you don't you don't have extensive vocabulary. Yes, I do. It just a a a Joe. If I see him say, may you know what Joe, why? Joe, boy, you my dog. Yeah. Sound cool. Yeah. But if I say, man, Joe, why fucking lay your word? See, yeah, yeah. That has meaning that has emphasis on what message I'm trying to get across. Yeah. Yeah. Don't nobody cook no food without no seasoning. Yeah, right. Right. I guess what it is. Huh? Guess what it is. It adds $5 to the square jar. So you add some season it and $5 to it. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Man. Yeah. How much money you think we'd have if Ocho if Ocho would have kept the swear jar that he started our first year and he say go put $5 in every time he swear. How much money you think we have a few grand? Yeah, a few grand. Hey, listen, I've been working on it. It's like it's like it's like alcoholic trying to stop drinking. You know, I'm trying. Yeah, you can. Alcoholic came around alcohol if you want to stop. Well, we I mean, which one we stop talking? I ain't saying that. We're about to cut out nightcap and get him to start cursing, but he gonna cut somewhere else. You know, just he just don't curse over here. Ty real chill. Oh, Joe, if you could compare your careers or play style to an NBA player, who would it be? And I so who you compare yours to an NFL term, it can't it can't it can be past or present. Damn, who? Hey, you'll be better because you know basketball better than I do. Who? Who? Who? AI. Yeah, I just say that. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You talk about artificial intelligence. I know it. You talk about the same. Yeah. Same. Do it. Do it your way. You know, then change then conform. It's hard because for me, my ability to start and stop, that's what I could do. I can start, stop. I have I had shape. I would probably say. Damn. I'll probably say. I say like the Andre Johnson. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. I'll probably you know what? I'll probably say Luca. Luca ability to start and stop. Luca. You be a bad mofo, ain't you? Yeah. That's what I could do. I run around. Oh, hey, Joe, I run around. I said that thing down because you got to realize I came from a wide receiver. I was a wide receiver that moved the tight end. Yeah. So tight end, they clumbered some day. They play a bumper car. They want to bump into the guy and break away. No, I ain't trying to let you touch me because I know you didn't grab me. And I wouldn't that big. I wouldn't like a gromp or a Gonzalez guy that can, you know, that can bumper car bump into you and break away. So now I'm just, oh, no. Yeah. I'm getting skinny. Now you see me. Now you don't. Tony, oh, if she was another MVP title, is he the third best point guard ever? I see him as a shooting guard, but he passes hard and is right behind D. Wade thoughts. Yeah, yeah, if he went, if he went another one, but he a point though. So that means he got to be a what he's a, well, he'll be probably be the third but because, you know, magic and and and and and the staff. And he'll be done. He does have the ball. I mean, no matter what we want to think about, uh, uh, uh, AI and hard. Yeah, there were two guards, but they got listed as point guards. So they go down his point guard, Joe. Yeah, there were two guards masquerading his point. There you go. There you go. You can say, man. It's different breed, bro. Yeah, you know, focus locked in, uh, keep his nose clean. He playing super hard working. Yeah, you get another one. Boy, yeah, he gonna be up in there. He gonna be in that conversation. He gonna pass. He gonna pass him dudes, some, some legends. Yeah. Sir Alexander I sold my Arkansas bro. Rep that far city ran into Brandon Roy. Can you talk about his game? And is he on the what if list? Yeah, oh, of course. Brandon Roy was tough, uh, played in Portland. I competed against him for a number of years. Always was a tough battle. Me and him had some, some great battles, some great one on one battles. Uh, but he had everything. I can't. Oh, Joe, the boy had bounce. He could score. He could shoot the middle. He could shoot the three. He could post up. He could defend. Uh, yeah. If he wanted for those knee injuries he had him and the markers are. Oh my God. That boy was serious, man. Had plenty of game. A whole lot of. Yeah, he one of them was man. What if. Damn. What if J.D. Acrid I sold you must have missed what Ocho told you to have the Miss Rabbit punch. Uh, you while performing Ocho got to explain that logic. He said what he said, uh, told Ocho you have to have the Miss Miss Rabbit punch while you performing the Miss Rabbit punch. Yeah. Oh, Joe, what? Uh, huh? You told Ocho you need to have the rabbit punch. Oh, Joe, remember I told you. What? What, you know, when she, what, but we'd talked about that on the Show the Other Day, you were like, no, I ain't, I ain't doing that. doing that. Oh, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what about it? Don't get punched. You got to tell it. Don't get punched right in the back of the head. For what? You know, when she, you know, your groceries. No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on, Joe. Hey, I'm cool. So you ain't you ain't living Joe. Hey, look, look, everywhere I done been, I had somebody I did the event with the house. Today, a dude stopped me. A dude stopped me talking about that. Tell my man, okay, oh, you're crazy, man. I said, yeah, they are crazy. Yeah, I know some wrong with it. Don't get old, Joe. If old Joe ain't no old Joe, old Joe be trying to pull me into a shenanigans man. Man, leave me alone. Oh, I ain't got time. So Joe, Sheldon po 51 25 Netflix airing the jail blazes documentary this week. I saw what do you remember from competing against them in the in the 2000 Portland teams? Oh, man, they were very explosive. My rookie year when I played against the Portland team, Scotty Pippen was on the team. I took Scotty Pippen from Arkansas. It's like my first time really getting a chance to see him in person to even meet him in person. So I thought that was pretty cool. But outside of that, you know, they were hell of a team, bro, who really had a great chance to at least get to the finals. So the unfortunate collapse that they had, you know, in that, what was that game seven? Or the was that the 2000 finals or 2000 Western finals or the 2000? Oh, yeah, when they when they when they choked against Shack, they had that lead. Yeah, I think that was 2000. Yeah, 2000. Yeah. Mm hmm. Raha, hey, I think you were at a point where LBJ won't get the love he deserves until five, 10 years after he retired. People don't know what they're watching. They don't. Yeah, I don't. I'm not so sure they don't know. I don't know if they're properly appreciated, because a lot of times we don't a proper properly appreciate greatness when we see it. It's not until it's retired. Yeah, he long gone before everybody really appreciate be like, man, then we really took due for granted. Yep. Yeah. But that happens. I mean, when you like you watching, do you did you really appreciate Michael Phelps when he won eight gold medals? Do you really appreciate you saying when he's running those times, you like you just like, oh, hey, somebody else go come to know. Or Serena. You just take it for granted. Yeah. It's not until they like, damn, man, Serena really dominated. Tiger Woods really dominated. These guys winning. I mean, Tiger Woods winning eight, nine, ten tournaments in a year. It's like now we got a we got a winner every other week. Target showed up. Tiger winning. Yeah. Yeah, that's our greatness is, bro. That's our greatness is. It's a savage. OK, OK, see fan. What's our chance looking running it back, fellas? We looking good. You looking damn good. Got a great great great chance or great opportunity. Damn good. Very. Some guys that's hungry, too. And everybody healthy, too. Yep. Got a great trail. Digging up. Can you hit that love train for the chance? This is Sunday. Who ran so to me. Man, I mean, I was there was telling the story because I love that song. And he was telling the story. I was like, damn. Two members. Same group. See the same woman. Man, what? Wait, love train. L.T.D. No, that's confunction. Saying. Oh, it's a function. Oh, that's what L.T.D. With Jeffrey Osborne, Jeffrey Osborne, the lead singer. Did he went so low on his own? Um. It happens sometimes, but you don't know what you don't know. Well, listen, man, boy, how do you know they were seeing the same woman? No. Cos she kept that thing on the hush. And you know, I like what they am. He was right there. You know, he was talking about it. You know, hey, man, I bet this bad girl, man. Hey, Joe, yeah. Yeah. Man, what you look like? Man, she bought. Love train. Probably about five, eight, five, nine. Light skin, got her natural hair. I mean, body to die for. What's the name? What you mean? Yeah. How long you been talking to her? Uh oh. You a. You know, a. You know, they started after you. How long you been talking to her? Yeah. Yeah, you know, something. Yeah, but a. Maybe straight, man. Hey, you know, somebody girl, they don't leave you. Don't let your boy be out there, man. So, you know, a. You know, the rookie's coming like we've been there. I've been there. I was there since 90. So I kind of know. I don't know everybody, but I kind of know. Yeah. What's up, man? What's up with her girl? Yeah, she used to, you know, talk to such and such. But yeah, I think she cool. But you know, she used to talk to X, Y and Z, but he no longer here. Yeah. Yeah. Why? I ain't been I ain't been to let you be out there just blind. Yeah. But you know, sometimes they. They want what they want. So what you gonna do? All I can do is just give you the information on show. That's it. You do what you want to do with it. Hey, sometimes who I have in that choke hold. What they ain't stood nothing. They want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it's been that way. Wars have been started. Man. I mean, why did why did Samson tell the Lolliwara strength a lot? David, why do that? Adam Adam took a bite of that apple. So, hey, you know, you know, all these trees, you where we want to. Oh, he started talking to it. There you go. Yeah. For that, you're gonna like my gruff. Took a big bite out of the crime. Yeah. Yeah. Cold game, boy. It is Sir Alexander. Oh, are y'all gonna ask someone to talk baseball like CC Barnes or maybe Jeter? No, man. They're they're honestly Sir Alexander. There's not a really enough interest from our people in our chat to justify it. Triple X Saturday, Ocho picked the Lakers, man. Lakers about to get swept. They know he janky. Hey, funny thing about it is when it comes to teams, I pick, I don't lose. Y'all see, y'all let y'all laugh at my bracket for March Madness. Now, even though my team. Oh, man, you pick Mads Goss. Even though I still came out better than y'all too. You ain't win. You ain't win, man. I still came out better than y'all too, as long as I beat y'all. That's all I care about. Okay. I tell you what, next year we gonna pick and we gonna put some money on the line. Uh-oh. That's what I'm talking about. See here, now I got to lock in now. I got to lock in. That's what we gonna do. Yeah. Each of us put a thousand dollars up. There we go. Wait, how much? A thousand. Yeah. That's what I thought. I got it. Now pick Mads Goss again. Dubs, King Iso, did your son finally learn how to make those sandwiches? Still laughing at that story, man. Self-natured. Yeah, he learned how to make those damn sandwiches. Yeah. You go hungry enough, boy. You whatever in there, you'll find a way to make something. Yeah. Sam the Grand 89, I saw a cowboy fan. So it's only natural that he bring delusion into his basketball fandom. All right now. All right. Yeah, with them hawks, about the hawks finna be. Nah, chill, chill, chill. I'm just saying. What? Who you got? Ocho and Iso in the Oklahoma drill. Ocho got the ball. Mama, come on. Clean his rat. Oh. You clean your rat. I'ma clean him up. Joe, I run through. Hey, what are you crazy? Joe, you ain't got enough bricks in your pocket, boy. What? You hear me? But, hey, Joe, you see the animals I had to deal with, man, doing my career, Joe, man, I would have ran through you, Joe. You ain't going through no contact, Ocho. You trying to get around somebody. I'm running through people, Joe. Joe, say he ain't even never did Oklahoma drill. I want you to know, Ocho. Joe. Joe, I'm going right through you, Joe. You know that boy. You know that boy. No contact. Hey, matter of fact, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you when I get the ball, when we play one on one, I'm going in the post. All right. All right. And I'm going to back you down like Shaq back when he was with the Lakers. Ha ha ha. Uh huh. What we talking about, man? Yo, I got some, I got some, you can't measure, Joe. What's that in your heart? You can't measure that, Joe. Right, burning fellas, I turned the big two five on Saturday and I'm drawing a blank on plans. What did y'all get until y'all 25th? Straight out five, oh, one love, Isil. Home team. I'm the wrong one to ask, boy. My every birthday. What we give for our 25th birthday? Yeah, man, you're not alone with that. Hold on, hold on. You know, my 25th birthday, I had a party back home in Little Rock and Jagged Ears came and performed. Told that thing, something like, told that thing down. You hear me? Yeah, oh, oh, it's over. Told that thing down. So who you getting to perform in 45? Hey, Joe, hey, how you boy, Joe? You know I got a little band now. No, no, no, I'm cool on you. I got a little mariachi band. I don't know. That's a good question. That's a good question. Right now, I bought up cool on you. Yeah. Damn, Joe, support Black business, man. I do, bro. I do. Baby Ray, oh, Joe, you and I so play 1v1. You got to go at the knee. If I so can't finish the game, that means you win, right? Yeah. And you going to cheap shot me? Nah, that was his idea. I don't want to cheap shot you. I don't want to cheap shot you. You wanted to finish. You wanted to stay. So you want to be in fast square. I want him there. I want him to get back on the show and say, you know what? Oh, Joe, I underestimated you. I underestimated everything. I take back everything I said about you. You the real deal. As a matter of fact, he probably going to say, you know what? You should have hooped. See, the thing is, when I kick your butt, I don't really get no strikes for that, because I'm supposed to do that. You feel me? Hey, Joe, you get strikes because I'm talking trash. I mean, you're grill, Joe. I'm telling you. Yeah, but I mean, the chat I already know that I'm going to dismount to you. They already know. The chat is basically off what they see you do in the NBA. Now, this ain't NBA rules. Deep jailhouse rule, Joe. And based off how they been seeing you hooped before, that's what they going out for. You think, yeah, it ain't just me. Joe, just word by the elbow, Joe. Just word by the elbow, Joe. That's all I got to say. Matter of fact, you know what? I don't want to do too much tongue wrestling. Yes, you know what it is. Hey, Joe, I saw Bees on Friday, and he said he going to let you heal up, but he looking for that. Oh, yeah, he wanted to smoke. He wanted to zap. Yeah, yeah. The nigga right. He can get it. He can get it to here. Ain't nobody zip. Oh, shit. Rocky Handley. Today is my 49th birthday. The biggest fan. Rocky, I appreciate that man. Happy birthday, bro. 49. Man. One more year round the sun. Five, zero. Kevin Boat Night. What's up, Boat Joe? No, it's a happy birthday. OK. Your 12 and 214 was achieved. Was a God tier. What was your first thought when the clock reached zero? Well, we went over time in that game. I didn't know I had the record. I know I had some yards, but I didn't know I had the record until, I think it was Jim Sacramento. I think Jim Sacramento came after the game and told me you said it in a failed record. I say for what? Say the most receiving yards in the game by tight end. I had no idea. I didn't even know what the record was. How many yards was it? I had 214. I wrote the record was 212. Yeah. Yeah. And I have I had 31 yards at the half, Boat Joe. Had 183 183 and two touchdowns in the second half. I'm saying the second half. What was the difference? They got me. But we were down and we were down and you had to throw. We have we had to throw and. They were playing. You had you had that look on you. You getting out getting up through that. First play out the second half. Go 82 on them. Hmm. Pick them up put them down. Oh yeah. But I probably should have had. I probably should have had. 250. DJ might 21 up. How good was Albany State back in your day? I'm from Camilla, Georgia, where Grover Stewart, the DT on the coast from is from ISO. And still love y'all. Albany was good. But we cooked them. I lost hello. I lost the Albany State once. I lost the Fort Valley once. I never lost the Clark. Lost the Morehouse once. But Albany was good. Albany had a nice squad. But when it ain't with number two coming to town, you already know. The Deuce is loose. What? Why we did a number on a. Well, we a. I lost the Fort Valley my first year. But that's when they had Greg Lord and L.A. and Andy Anderson. They called it defense blue death. Oh, they were they were loaded. But after that. No more. No more. Oh, Joe went out there. They'd be this that I placed my freshman year. Did I go back to them? Hit them for eight for one twenty two. Then they come back to us my junior year. I hit them for seven for one ninety seven. Yeah, get it like that. Oh, yeah. Cookin. He was for that. Just mixed the stuff in the pot. And then. Caleb Robinson. I'm sorry. As much as I love old goat, the brawn, James, Brian and James, Bryce, James, Rick, James. Hey, y'all bulljibbing. Ronnie getting better and better. Yes, he is. He's a little good out there. He's starting to live more comfortable. I think had a double double digit quarter. Yeah, the third quarter. Hey, couple of three got to the right. Got to the right. Yeah. You know what? Because it's like when I watch him in the G League, he'd be down there dominating. Yes, you got to bring. He just got to bring that attitude, that confidence. He got to bring it with him when he played with the Lakers, bro. Yep. That's all he got to do. Richie shoots all. If you guys can make a starting lineup with the players that surprise you the most this season, what would it be? We might have to get a close up to that old show for that 5,900. Love the show. Nightcap for life. Most surprising. Uh, are you talking basketball? I'm thinking basketball. Yes, most surprising. I mean, the kid Alexander Walker here for the Hawks. For sure. He he on there. Yeah, he probably he's number one on my list. I'm surprised. I did not see Jaylen Brown average in 28. No, who had that on the bingo card? I thought he would put up some good numbers. I just didn't think they were resulting the winner. Yes, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't I didn't really see that because they had lost so much. I was like, I think JB he could potentially probably lead the league and score, but I just didn't know they would be number two in the East still. I ain't know that. OK. Canipple. I did not see him playing like this in the rookie season. Me neither. That Keontay George kid from Utah. Yeah. From Bailey, he went to Bailey. He nice. He be getting money out there. Yeah, yeah. Who was like that? I thought Cooper Flag would be good, but I didn't think he'd be this good this early. Now, he picked it up. He started off a little slow, but yeah, I mean, back to back 40 pieces. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's impressive. That's impressive. Daniel Wells, oh, Joe, the only man on earth who can get away with turning money old into a bent emergency for a couple of get your money. You write about that, man. That takes a special skill for Ocho because he found a way to get out of it and a. And it's here if you need it. I need it. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Night Cat. We greatly, greatly appreciate you guys tuning in. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite. And there is my partner, a former pro bowler and an all pro and a ring of fame honoree for the Cincinnati Bengals. That is Ocho Cinco and the seven time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks and Arkansas Little Rock native. He's ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the NightCat Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for your continued support because you make this happen. You make it worthwhile. So thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier, head over to LaPortierConyac.com to order you a bottle. It is a premium VSOP. Best tasting, smoothest VSOP on the market. It is a VSOP, but it drinks like an SO. Exo, excuse me. An exo. So I'm telling you, you know, Joe, we could know what we have that, we could have that, that Shea Floyd at the party. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Man, that thing will be lit. Super. Hey, which I want me to wear. Joe, we talk about, I hit you. I got you. I got you. 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