EP 46: 2025

Disclaimer. At Two Addicts in the Moron, we discuss personal stories of addiction with the intention of being educational, relatable, and inspirational. The views and experiences shared are those of individuals involved are not meant to glorify or condone any illegal or harmful behavior. This content is for educational purposes only and is not intended as professional advice. If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction, we strongly encourage you seek help from a qualified professional or support service. We are rolling into a New Year's resolution special of Two Addicts in the Moron. Ooh, I should have brought my vision board. No, you shouldn't have. Nobody wants to see that shit, man. That's gonna stay in the closet. Loser. You made it. You made it. Not that big yet where people want to watch a vision board, man. You know, I'll take it out though. I love you. I think I'm gonna put it in here somewhere. Yeah. Well, okay. Yeah, that's good for in here, but for out there. Destiny's like, you should bring it to work. It's like, bro, I'm not bringing that to fucking me. Stop. No, not gonna. Stop. You're trying to say, well, you're supposed to like stop. There's a dude that has one at work and it fucking drives me up the wall. Like, I'm gonna be real honest with you. I look at it every time. I'm like, what a fucking douche. This guy. A doucheer. Yeah. So, well. If you're watching, know he thinks douchey, real douche baggy. I mean, hopefully there's more than one because I officially know exactly who the fuck it is. All right. We're gonna go put some fake ones up just because. Yeah. All right. Maybe I'll bring my vision board up. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. So we've had we wanted to do one just the three of us. We've had guests on now for a long stretch and we wanted to get it back to basics and and it was, I mean, it was a huge year for us. Oh, yeah. It was a giant fucking year of starting not even a whole entire calendar year. Just nine months, really. But it it's humbled me in a way where I never thought that I would have expectations moving into 2025 for this thing. I've said this before, but when we first started doing this, my expectation in my bar was pretty fucking low as far as people who would pay attention. Not from we were doing this for ourselves and we were doing this to help people. Right. But I did. I still thought, honestly, we'd be like, yeah, we just hit a hundred people that know who the hell and it is far bigger than that in such a short period of time. And I'm humbled every fucking day that that I'm associated in a part of this in 2025. We're we're going to pound the pavement and get busy. And now I'm on board and I guess you can say I'm a believer now. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? You you two motherfuckers never wavered and God bless you for that. But I think I told you I was like, man, I'll I'll let these dudes keep their head in the clouds and I'll keep our feet on the ground. Yeah. Right. And but now I'm I guess it's safe to say that I'm going to get up into the clouds with you. Come on up. It's good altitude up here. You can breathe. Yeah, it's pretty fucking cold right now. It's cold. But really. But yeah, in the summertime, in the summertime, but wanted to recap a year, wanted to talk about maybe some. Resolutions, I guess expectations, resolutions, things like that. So vision board. We should have brought the motherfucker on here. No, no, no. Still no. But Dork. But yeah, I wanted to more do kind of a love letter to our fan base and and just I can't say thank you enough. Yeah, for sure. And it sounds weird to say, but we actually have a fucking fan base. Yeah, it's a very strange, humbling thing to have. So for that, I want to thank you two guys and I'm going to skip the introductions here since it's just the three of us today. Yeah, you know, you know, you know, right? And but we'll we'll never almost never skip the other the other tradition that we have. So J. Glyde, go ahead and take it away, brother. Most definitely. Let us get centered. Let us get present. Bow our heads, close our eyes. Let's think about the addict that saw their suffering and struggling right now, especially in these cold climates. The friends and fame members that are struggling with them and the addict that unfortunately could not be with us here in this moment. Take a moment of silence. Thank you. All right. Well, yeah, seeing as it's a new year and it's all about resolutions and you Jim rats out there are seeing how packed it is right now. Yeah, dude, the New Year's my son. He's a big Jim rat and he he called me and he was like, I it's so crowded in here and he's 16. He doesn't fucking quite get it yet. I was like, give it to March, buddy. It'll start clearing out a little bit. You know what's crazy at the gym? I go to it's actually less crowded. I think my brother made a resolution to eat more chicken. God bless him for that too. Yeah, makes you happy, you know. I also made it a point to go at first thing in the morning now. This is a little different. Yeah. Yeah. When I go in the morning, it's it's definitely an older crowd. Yeah. Yeah, they're doing a lot of spin class. A lot of water. There's a lot. There's a lot of cardio going on. A lot of bicycles. A lot of lifting. Yeah. They got that. Yeah. When I go after work, it's fucking packed. Yeah, it's it's there's definitely a lot of new faces. That just means more people that I can say subscribe. Yeah, subscribe to us. Man, one of my resolutions this year is to get out in the community more. Yeah, you know, I kind of we share that one. Yeah, I kind of I need to go to more meetings, be more of a face out there and different meetings to I get I get kind of comfortable in the same meetings that I go to. And I seen it last night, you know, I went to Destiny Works in recovery and she called me and she's like, Hey, we're going to a meeting tonight. You should come because the people at her rehab like to see me there. Yeah. And I was like, what if I didn't like to see me there? Right. And it's because of what we've built, you know, it's definitely they like to hear some of my words that I say and just just get to chop it up and just bullshit with me, you know. Right. And the good thing about that is I get to like last night whenever I showed up, I did an okay share. I got my three year chip last night. I'm gonna get one Friday too. Yeah, I'll be there. Let's go. And but afterwards, like I know whenever I was in rehab, it was hard for me to introduce myself to people. So being that I know a lot of people at that meeting, I can help introduce some of the people to different people there so they can get connected. Yeah. Because I think that that's one of the biggest things for my sobriety is the fellow shipping. Yeah. Yeah. If I just go to meetings and come home and I don't have people to reach out to and call. That's not I'm not going to be in a good place. Right. So so that's what I got to, you know, and I committed to some of them last night. Like next time I see you in a meeting, I'll introduce you to more people that I know. Yeah. And get you more phone numbers. And then I got to introduce myself to a couple of people that I didn't know last night and got some phone numbers. Yeah. So that's something that that I'm committing to this year. Something that you do way more than I do is you show up to these different events and I need to make more time for that. You know, I think we need to make my mind was a hang up. I had already kind of told you guys, you know, I didn't I don't want to say that I felt awkward. You know, nobody in this community has ever made me feel that way. Yeah. It's a me making me feel that way because I just don't want to, I guess, intrude upon something that I'm technically not a part of, you know what I mean? And so I always kind of was the moron in the cut, right? Like, I'll just stay back and let them do it. It's kind of a bullshit way to think and a way to live. I need to be a lot more present and a lot more a lot more social in in the in the rooms and rehabs, the events. And that's something that I'm going to commit to. Yeah. A lot more this year. And nobody, I mean, we have a great leader in that with this guy. I mean, there's probably nobody that's out there and does more certainly does more than the two of us. And yeah, for sure. We just need to follow suit and hang out a little bit more. It's ridiculous that we don't really. Yeah. I make excuses for it too. Like, I don't have time. I have this or that. I can make time for it. Yeah. Me too. Mine was a little bit more of a personal hang up, but I got over it. I'm over it. I'm done thinking that way. So people want to see you. Yeah. They want to see more on. Yeah. You are the most popular. I want like a little jelly when they're like, where's more on? I'm like, what about Mike stew? What about Mike stew, boy? Yeah. Well, you know what? He's coming. He's coming. He's coming to a meeting near you. I'm going to make myself a lot more envisioned. The physical presence of me will be there for sure. And I can't help but feel the next resolution of mine was I kind of fucked up a little bit. So we just had Sean Livingston on great episodes. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Sean. And I told him, I was like, man, you're movie inspired me in a way where it made me want to like you're over there running 100 miles and shit. Like I have no reason not to get my act together and get myself in shape and not 10 minutes after I fucking walk out of this place. That dude hits me up and he's like, what's your number? Give him my number. Gladly. And it's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, and then ensues like, so when are we going running? And I'm like, dude, like here we go. Like, I guess I have zero fucking excuses now. But again, like this will be our leader and getting us a little bit more out there. I can't think of a better dude to motivate me and keep me accountable in that way. So I'm going to do it with you. I'm excited and scared all at the same time to be doing that with with that complete psychopath of a runner. But but that's something I'm going to do with myself up into these slow joggers. Power walkers like the ladies and that text him and said, what kind of shoe do I need? He said, not the ones that you wear. Yeah. And I'm like, what's wrong with Nike's? And he said, that's just like, we're going to. Apparently there's a place called Fleetfoot. Yeah, we are looking for a sponsor. Yeah. And we're actually we're going to come to you. Yeah, we're going to come by shoes pretty soon. Hopefully at a discount. Yeah. But apparently they put your they let you run on their machine. Are you barefooted? No. You mean flatfooted? Are you flatfooted? I don't think so. I think you're just there in your in your shoes. But I've talked to people who've done it before. And they said that they put you on a slow motion camera on your feet while you're running so they can see how your feet are planning and you know, what kind of shoes that you need. Yeah. You know, when you watch this, is it called soap operas? Yeah. So poppers. Yeah. Do the slow mo like that. That's what I feel like we're going to be like on this fucking thing. But apparently it tells you like what your pressure points are. Yeah. And then this shoe is this is the best shoe for your feet. Yeah. So and I'm probably going to qualify for the fucking non design for the fucking Velcro ones at Walmart. They're going to be like, you just go to Walmart and get the fucking Velcro ease over there. And you know, so fleetfoot we're coming. We're going to start running. We're going to start jogging for it. I'm a jogger. Yeah, dude. I'm not sprinting anywhere. Fuck that. So what's crazy is when we did that episode with him, when you were talking about 100 miles, I thought you meant 100 K. No, I didn't know it was 100 miles. It was 100 fucking miles. Because I'm thinking like, what's that like 62 miles? If it's 100 K. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that's also completely psychopath type running like 62 mile. That's a long fucking way. Bro, five miles in my opinion is your foot. There's something wrong with you. Yeah. I mean, my fat ass sitting here right now with this camera on me one mile is going to probably fucking kill me right out of the gate. You know, that's why I asked him. I was like, I'm fascinated with 100 miles. How do you prepare for that? And Sean and his perfect style. Like you gotta run a lot. Thanks, dude. Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. I get on the bicycle. I've been doing cardio. No, you haven't. Bro, listen, the last three days in the gym, because it's New Year's, I've been getting on the fucking bicycle, but I've been getting on the bicycle and dude, that's like a lot for me. Yeah, it's uncomfortable. It sucks, man. It sucks. It sucks really fucking bad. And I don't even put it on the I just do the quick start and I just go with it. I don't try to elevate the levels and all that shit. I don't do none of that. Yeah. So it's going to be fun. Yeah. Like I need a six pack. Yeah. Okay. Not a beer. Back here. So we're trying. Well, Jay Klein, you know, what's a what's a resolution or two of yours? Well, I'm going to be real guys. I don't make resolutions. Okay. I claim it. I claim it. There you go. Last year, everything that I've done and we're doing now, I've spoken to existence. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, shit, like the power of manifestation, the law of attraction. And when you ingrain that in your in your in your brain and then you just you fucking go for it. Yeah. And then you just you put in genuine, real pure intention into everything that you do and then life will just begin to form around you. Like I said, I told you I was going to start my own podcast. I didn't know exactly how, but that was my original plan. And then God put me in your life or you're us in each other's lives and then hockey game and then that's how you know, like shit is real and natural and meant to be is when it just forms around you organically. And you know, I did the music thing and fucking that sometimes but sometimes things go like and I also don't really try to put too much expectations on it because like the music thing I thought I was going to rebrand it and I thought I was still going to be able to get out and you know, do the regular shows like and then I found out that because I didn't want to be like a recovery rapper. I still kind of don't but like I'm a recovery based hip hop artist. But that ended up taking me to you know, out of town and got me on fucking billboards like what? Yeah. Yeah. You know, and it got me and I was like, wait, this is what I was supposed to be doing the whole time. Using platforms as vehicles to carry a message of experience, strength and hope. We do this here. I do it with music with my other engagements. We do that on a regular just outside of our lives. That's what it's about. So what am I going to do this year? Well, we're going to continue to build this fucking 2x and more and up. Yeah. We're going to continue to reach people in mass around the world like we have. We're going to continue to build on that. And then my ultimate goal is I want to take this on the road. Take it on the road. I would. I'm down for that. Yeah, I would love to do that. And I'm already starting it off January 18th in San Antonio. So let's you know, anything that I do, y'all are always welcome in included as well. Yeah. So if you want to go to San Antonio, Mike's got Kailin but or the daughter. Excuse me. That's all you get. You know, if you want to come, you know, hell yeah, because what's happening in San Antonio, I'm speaking in front of like a hundred people. Oh, give him your story. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to do like I want to do a lot of my motivational speaking and speaking engagements. I want to build up. I'm going to build up my coaching program. And I just want to continue to change and transform lives any way that I can. Cool. Well, because I've pretty much really have reached all my goals. Yeah. But they say the hardest part is now to sustain those and build those up. So that's what that's the territory. Move them a little higher up, you know, yeah, like if you're coaching five people, I want to coach 10 people. Yeah. I'm going to coach 10 people. Yeah. You know, just move them a little further, a little further, a little further like this podcast, like more subscribers, more people, yeah, or reaching. And I'm definitely, yeah, I will see on the 18th. If what time is it? 730pm. I will see if my daughter's mother, who's an amazing person will, uh, will watch, will swap with me that night. Maybe I can swap a Saturday with her so I can show up. Yeah, it'd be cool, man. We can road trip it. Um, get on. Yeah. Get on the road for the first time. Road trip with some homies with no drugs. I've never done that. Yeah. It's fine, dude. Never done that. I've done it a couple times, but it's fun. Yo, ironically enough, my normie ass, I probably never done it either. You know what I mean? Right. He's like a couple of beers popping or something. You know, you know, I won't lie. Last year was, um, I started doing a vision board when I got out of rehab. Yeah. And my vision board is always pretty filled up and I've been able to accomplish a lot of them. Last year I had somebody on my vision board that was a big part of my life that I had a falling out with and it made me kind of not say fuck the vision board for last year, but because there was a lot of that person on that board and things to do for that person, it made me not really pay that much attention to it. So I changed that this year where I didn't put any specific people on my vision board and just specific goals. Yeah. That I want to, because really like I shouldn't have even fallen off with some of the shit that I was doing just because someone, you know, hurt me in my life. Right. And, but I did like that's, that's, that's some growth that I need to have. Yeah, man. If that's affecting your vision, then. It's not being a little bitch. Yeah. But yeah, I need to, I need to, you know, remember that I'm not doing this for, I need to do it for the right reasons. Yeah. So yeah, something I need to grow on. A lot of growth. I'm four, I mean, I'm a four year old toddler. Yeah. Really, really three year old toddler. You're 44. Stop it. Thank you. Yeah. You're just said 40 fucking liar. Look, someone asked me the other day, how old are you? And sometimes I forget because I mean, look, when you have 44 birthdays, you know, yeah, it's like, I don't fucking know. Like. Start counting shit up. Like, I don't really know. Yeah, man. Sometimes. Yeah, after 30, I even kind of know. Fuck, dude, am I already 34? Yeah. Yeah. Like when you turn 18 or when you turn 21, like you're looking for things to go do. Yeah, dude, it's like when you're like, my birthday is in two months and I'm like, cool, I'll be 45. Dude, there's three birthdays that matter. There's fucking 16 because you can drive. Yeah. Or let's add a fourth. 18 because in our day, that was the day where you go by pouring. Yeah. Porn and like cigarettes and you know, shit like that. There's 21 because now you can go booze it up without getting in trouble. And then there's 55 because then you get the senior citizens discounted. I'm almost there. Denny's getting close. You know, like, dude, that's that's a big deal. Yeah, man. And it is when you pull out the AARP card. Bro. Oh, yeah. My dad fucking flashes that like a goddamn FBI badge, dude. He fucking he's so bright. He doesn't give two shits. Like, I'm like, what are you doing, man? He's like, no, we get 10% off. And I'm like, God, dad, like what are you and then I have to like check myself. I'm like, he earned that shit. Like you. My mom does it through shit to earn that 10% and they will fight for that fucking 10%. Like my mom's embarrassed us before. And it's harder to embarrass me. Look, I'm shit my pants in front of people. Yeah, bother me. But you let my mom start arguing with the fucking waitress about that fucking 10% off. Yeah. Like, no, I fucking deserve it. And she does. That's the thing. The 10% she's like, no, that's not the fucking point. I'm a senior. Yeah, I'm a senior. It's yeah, man. I mean, it is what it is. It's a huge deal. What about the first birthday? The first birthday. Hmm. I mean, out the womb. You don't fucking know. I mean, do you remember when you were born? Absolutely do. No, you don't. No, you don't remember anything like before five years old. Yeah, I think about five was once I remember six. Yeah, I mean, my daughter swears she remembers shit when she was like two. Yeah, I'm like, funny, but sad story. This is sad. Funny, funny, too. All right, cool. Uh, so I'll take y'all the trip down memory lane into J. Klein's family dynamic. So I've shared on this on this podcast before that my dad was is no longer living, but when he was, he was an active heroin addict. Yeah. It's not that's not funny, but yeah, it was brought to my attention years later. Right. Uh, so I had a sixth birthday and it was Batman theme, right? Well, guess who made it up? Guess who made an appearance? Oh, pops. Batman. Motherfucking Batman. Batman was there, dude. Yeah. Mask and all. And, uh, I thought it was the greatest thing at the time until like a few years later, like maybe like when I was 14 and my mom told me, she said, yeah, your father only came dressed up as Batman and wore the mask because he was on heroin and knocking out. He didn't want anyone, he didn't want anyone to know. Hey, let's see. Play the part. Hey. At least that dude, you know, heroin Batman, dude. Heroin Batman. Whole heroin Batman. Yeah, dude. God, he was a big hit with the kids. I bet. And all the parents there were like going up to my mom, I guess, like is wrong with him. Why is he? Yeah. What's wrong with Batman? Dude. Too much. He's been spending a little too much time in Gotham last night. He's pretending to hibernate. I mean, let me acknowledge something too, because we haven't acknowledged it. I think we just got a little caught up. But our boys do had a third birthday. Yeah, you know, three years of sobriety, man. Major. It is major. It's so fucking major. And and I got to witness that, you know, through a tough through the tough times and all the way to where you are now. And it's a big deal. And congratulations, brother. And I know we're going to pick up a chip and I'll cry. Yeah, yeah, me too. I will be mentioned. Yeah. Yeah, it was a. I got to pick up a chip yesterday at the group that I started at. Yeah. And a lot of the people that started with me there. Are that were there were still there. Matter of fact, the person that gave me my chip last night, her three years is tomorrow, Sarah, thank you so much. I love you so much. Little Sarah, what we call it. She asked if I was going, I said yes. And then she asked. Everybody that was running the meeting Christian, if she could hand chips out. And she gave a little speech about. Now, how much. How she remember seeing me the first day where I was and the growth that she's seen in me. And then she talked about how we've, this podcast has done a lot for the community. And it was awesome. You know, it's a, those are the kind of people that you meet in recovery. You know, it's the, there's, there's reasons that we go through what we go through and look, I put myself. But there's, there's a, you, you meet, you really meet some of the best people in recovery that I've ever met in my life. And, you know, people, it's crazy. Like when you pick up a chip, like if I made phone calls and told people I'm picking up a chip, so many people just show up, even if they haven't been a meeting in months, they'll show up just because you're picking up a chip. Um, Miss Karen, she's going to come on the podcast either at the end of this month or next month. Um, she runs a facility and I haven't seen her in almost a year. And she found out I was picking up my chip. I didn't even tell her and she showed up. So, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's a, you know, it's like a chip's nice. And you, I always say when I pick a chip up, that I'm going to indulge in it for tonight, but then tomorrow it's on to the next one. Yeah. And, um, I don't really, you know, I feel like I'm breaking a record. And, um, you know, I got to share that with some people. Gary picked up a chip last night. Fucking real good dude. Once he's going to, he's going to come on here one day. And, um, you know, that's, you get to share those moments with other people. That's a big deal. And then, you know, I always like picking up chips and beginners meetings because those are the people that probably need to hear us more than anybody. You know, um, because that's where we were at one time. And, uh, but yeah, Friday night, I'm going to pick another one up. The little heroine's anonymous meeting. And, uh, you guys will be there. Ramon's going to show up. Our buddy Ramon, man. Ramon, man. He's only fired me four times from work, but it was all with love. He's a mentor, dude. He's a mentor. He's a mentor of ours. He's a fucking phenomenal guy. Phenomenal dude. And, and really man is, as loyal of a, of a watcher and also feedbacker, uh, of, of anyone that. As honest as anybody you'll ever meet. I mean, I'm fucking artistically honest. Like just, he'll fucking just let you have it. You know what I respect? I respect a lot of things about him, but during my addiction, he didn't understand it. Yeah. Right. I mean, most people like just fucking quit, but he tried to understand it. Yeah. And I remember like he used to try to get me to come work out with him and he paid for a membership for me to do a CrossFit. Terrible. Yeah. And I went with him a few times at five in the morning where I hadn't slept. Yeah. And I was on meth and dude, try going to CrossFit on meth after fucking being at the strip club all night. It's terrible. Yeah. And I threw up in the park a lot of few times with him or not with him, but. When, you know, when he had me at Orange Theory, I was throwing up and CrossFit, but he really tried to understand and he just didn't understand. And I think he has a better understanding now. And I, you know, he watches his podcast and I think he gets it more now. I think he just, it might just be a higher level of compassion. Maybe. Yeah, probably. I don't think it's an empathy. Yeah. I don't know that. More empathy. I don't know. I mean, I don't know that guys like me or him will ever understand. Yeah. Like we just never will, but, um, but we can always ask questions. We can always try and at least discuss our way through something. And maybe on the other end help someone out. But yeah, dude, he's the, he's the goat of goats. So for, for me, he's done a lot for me and my family. And, um, in this podcast and outside of this podcast, a guy's a champion for me for sure. So Ramon, thank you very much. Um, I also would be remissed if I didn't bring up, you know, when we started doing this very shortly after we got signed by a production company. And then very shortly after that, lost that production company. It was a couple months. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was good. We did look, uh, I Joe Joseph Vanoy, another champion of our life. Oh, JV back there. Try to get him on this episode. He's not ready. He makes us look so good and he makes us look like we know what the fuck we're doing. But I promise you to all of our viewers out there at two addicts in the more on land, we don't. And, um, we really didn't. When we first started doing this, we really didn't. So there was like a production company saying, yeah, we can help you and do this and do that. We're like, okay, well, you don't know. And me and Mike would be like, so what do you think this is? And I'm like, dude, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Well, we figured it out and they figured it out. And, you know, we, that's, uh, it's for the better. We're free agents. We're free agents. That was a very long winded way of saying that we are in the free agent market now. And, um, and we are, uh, uh, back to just freelancing two addicts in a moron. I mean, yeah, that was, uh, that was interesting. Yeah. It was, um, it was interesting. How they let us go. They let us go through email. Yeah. Hey, we really don't know what we're doing pretty much. And we're going to go ahead and cancel the contract that we have with y'all. Yeah. And good luck to, to, um, to be fair to them and all the podcasts at, or I don't know how many podcasts they had. Yeah. Um, they all got let go. Yeah. They got rid of their podcasting area. I see they even had the Jacksonville Jaguars on there. Not anymore. They did. I'm sure they'll, they won't have a problem finding another home. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, thank God we have JV because it took, like that's the reason we was off of Spotify for four months, which we're back on now. We're back on now. Thank God for him. Yeah. Because we still wouldn't be back on, but we had to separate their name from our name and, um, and we don't know what we're doing. So, um, like it took, it took some doing, but we're all uploaded back there now. It took a lot of work. Um, I'm glad you brought that one. And that was our first, uh, should we say that a failure that we went through? Well, yeah, it was like a turn in the punch bowl. I mean, it's still punch. I mean, it's like a turd in the punch. Or shit sandwich that we made it through. Yeah. But it, I mean, can't really be a shit sandwich. Nothing really happened as a result of it. It didn't hurt us. Yeah. But it didn't help us. Yeah. So, um, made us strong. Growing pains. Made us stronger. Little growing pains. It's a good way. Kurt Cameron's been around. Well, you know what it did do is next time someone says, Hey, we're going to do this for you. We're going to be a little bit more hesitant. Yeah. And, uh, you know, so that, or be like, are you really? Yeah. Are you guys that reach out to us on Instagram and YouTube and say, we're going to grow your channel. That's why we're so like, sure, buddy. Yeah. Send us the check. Yes. Yes. Make it out to show you first and then we might sign on. Yeah. But, uh, but yeah, that was a interesting limp in the radar, but, um, yeah, it's good times, but here we are, man, back at, back at, uh, phase, whatever we're at. I don't, you know, it's crazy. It's like, when you look at our wall, right? And there's some names over there too. Like how many people have came on? It's insane. It really is. And the kudos to J. Klein, because J. Klein gets most of our guests on here. Mm hmm. Like we all do our own little part in this. Yeah. And that's something that you do really well is you, you do a lot of things really well, but you reach out like, I don't, I didn't know half the people. And that, that's not because they're not big people. It's just because like you're engraved in this recovery community in a way that I'm not, and that's something that I inspire to be more in. And, um, like you've gotten us on some amazing guests and some amazing people and people that when they came on, like, we're like, how the fuck did they come? How are they coming on? Yeah. Right. And, um, like we owe, we owe a lot to them as well. You know, no man, like, I mean, all the, all the guests, I say it every time that we have one, but I really mean it, man. Like, uh, once you're on here and you're sitting on that chair, you, you're part of our world, you know, you're here. And that's why we, I mean, we literally and figuratively keep you here forever with us because, um, we owe each and every one of you. There's so many names that, um, that are up there that I don't want to go by reading them all because I will forget one inevitably because it's a disorganized mess of those. Well, I was going to say it's a disorganized mess of signatures up there, but it's a very literal representation of what we are as a podcast. It's just a kind of a disorganized hodgepodge. But it fucking works, man. Like it's a, it's a beautiful thing. And, um, so all of our guests, too many of you to name by name. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. For, for coming on and, um, we, we couldn't have, we, we, we couldn't have grown the way that we have if we didn't have you, um, coming on here. And for a while there, I always say it, man, I listened to you guys be very vulnerable and we talked a lot about that in the early days. And then we have these other people who start to come and sit in that chair and maybe not know us. You know, some of them know maybe you or you, they don't know me and I'm the fucking dickhead that's going to be peppering them with questions for the next hour, but, uh, it's not easy sitting there and telling your story of addiction and recovery. It's, it's not. And every single one of them has come in here and made it look really easy. And you guys included. And, um, I just, I can't, I can't think all of them enough. Um, you know, some of them were really big personalities. Some of them, you know, weren't, but just as impactful the same, no matter what it was. And, um, so we'd be remissed if we didn't think every single one of them. And, uh, to the future guests too. I think I cracked the joke. I made it, they, everybody laughed, but I started an episode. I was like, well, one thing I've learned about Austin, Texas, there's no shortage of fucking addicts around here. So, uh, ladies and gentlemen who, you know, I forget which, which guest it was. Yeah. Um, uh, and that's, um, that's a cold hard truth and a sad truth, but it is the truth and, um, and we, we don't care if you have a good story, you have a good story and if, but your story is yours. Talk to a young lady. She's a friend of ours, um, a friend of ours. And, um, uh, she had apprehensions of coming on because she feels like her story's not like, she's like, you guys talk to people that are living under bridges and like shooting heroin in their eyeballs and cutting off their toes. And like shit like that. Like, I was pretty, I was like working in stuff through mine. And my response to that was, well, that's way more relatable in this disease. Yeah. Then it is to be a person that's cutting off your toe and slashing your face open. Digging in dumpsters, living under bridges. You know, though, that's why it's more important for you to come on than your, not just as important as we all have a story. We all have a voice. Yeah. Just as important as a guy living under the bridge. It's, so if your story can help one person, that's what it is. Like, if you're, you know, and you know, thank you. Yeah. I've never heard of anybody cutting their toe off. Bro, still the wildest fucking thing I've ever heard. And, um, if you read his book, there's, he touched on it very, very briefly on here. But like, yeah, he got, he got like kind of trafficked or had an attempt to be trafficked in a suitcase. Yeah. Like somebody tried to pack him in a suitcase and fucking sell them or something. I bring him back on so we can talk about the book now that we've read the book. Yeah, dude. It's so good. Cricket's vile. Um, all the books, uh, last call, stupid. Everybody's book that we've had come on. If they have a book, it's over there. Frank. Yeah. Frank Parisi. Fucking. Oh, geez. Embrace abundance. Holy shit. Do we ever. Frank Parisi is getting a beer. He's going to become very, very, he's already big. He's going to become another David Goggins. Dude, I texted him when I saw him doing shit with Redman. Yeah. It's like, dude, Redman's like one of my childhood heroes of hip hop. Yeah. And you're like hanging out with the guy. That's fucking awesome. Like good for you. You know what's crazy is everybody that's came on this podcast. No matter who it is, right? No matter how big of a platform they have, if we text them, they always respond back so quickly. Yeah, dude. It's like, like, dude, I'd fuck with Bradley Sparks all the time with Nemo. Dude, he responds back fucking immediately. Yeah. I love that dude. That dude. He's fucking so funny. Yeah. The guy is hilarious, dude. He's, uh, he was, he was the one like, I don't have any favorite. Everybody always says, who's your favorite guest and who's the best story? I would never say that. I would never, I don't have one because everybody's story is like, everybody's story has touched me in a different way. Yeah. For sure. Um, especially like some of the women that's come on. Yeah. Like, uh, Ashley Horton, right? Mm hmm. When the, the, when she was checking in this over living and she got a call from CPS that she was losing her kids. Yeah. And she didn't just drop her shit and go get high because that's what I would have done and she stuck it out and she made the comment that she had to get clean and sober for her children. So if they ever come and find her, they're not going to find a, a, a drug addict mom. Yeah, dude. That was one of the, like, I will remember that forever because if I was like, how strong do you have to be to lose your children and not say, fuck this, I'm done. Yeah. I mean, that is a powerful woman. You talk about like Sean Livingston running a hundred miles, dude. That's a hundred miles mentally. I mean, with, without a doubt, like, I mean, and how lively she was. Just, you know, cutting it up and chopping it up with us. And, yeah, it is an incredible person. Yeah. Really, every one of them really was like, we should, we, like we, we should do everybody justice and mention everybody. I know we can't, but just everybody that's came on, your stories are amazing. You're amazing people. And I, I could be wrong. I think that everybody that has came on is still in sobriety. I could be wrong. But as far as I know, we haven't had one person and we've had people that's come on that are only like 90 days or 120 days. Yeah. But as far as I know, everybody is still fucking going. Tell you what, Austin has a lot of addicts here, but I'll put the dis-recovery community up against any community in the world. Yeah. I mean, Sean said it last episode too. He was like, I mean, and he's, he's out there. He's traveling around and shit. He, I mean, he said it. He was like, I'll hold this one up against any one of them. And, um, but you know, the sad reality of that is that in order to have that recovery community, you've got to have a lot of addicts. You got to have a lot of addiction. And that's what we're bringing in 2025. And I think what we're going to feel like is, is we're going to keep pressing forward with this thing and, um, awareness, conversation, yeah, compassion, um, conversation more than anything. I think being aware, you know, we're going to get on some other people's podcast. Yeah. That's definitely that's how Jake Klein, he was on Sean's podcast. We're all going to go. Yeah. How'd that fit? How was that? It was awesome. Was it? Yeah. He's got a nice setup. I mean, the difference that's in this, but both, both, you know, both are good. You know, the thing that I like about what we do and what other people do in recovery is we're so willing to help and share with each other. Like Rachel coming on and then their whole podcast coming on. That was fucking dope. Fucking dope as fuck. It was awesome. That was the first time I was asked questions. I'd install odds. Yeah. I mean, that's phenomenal podcast. Yeah. Hope of Hollicks is a good podcast. We need to get on there. It's great. They need to come on ours. A shit face sober. Yeah. I had a little hate on them in the very. Yeah. You know, I had to imagine a little Jim beef. A little Jim beef. Yeah. But you know, that's the crazy thing is in recovery, people are so willing to help you and reach out. And that's one thing that we're going to definitely pay that for as well. For sure. For sure. For sure. But yeah, definitely going to get on some podcasts. I'm going to reach out to us from Pittsburgh in New York to come on their podcast, Pittsburgh. We're going to take a road trip. Yeah. So here's the thing is I. I'm. I. You reminding me now I need to text him. I think he's going to be here sometime in January and. Oh, we need to get him on. Yeah. We need to get him get him on and then we need to hit the road and go to Pittsburgh, I guess who's driving. Nobody. I'm flying flying that one. No fucking way. You coming? Nice. Jamie's coming. Jamie, what's your new year's resolutions, man? You got to come out here. You got to get on. Yeah, get on. Why not? Yeah. Yeah, man, behind the scenes. This is the rare. This is rare. Everything that we do. Um, I would actually, well, last year, I think it was a great year for me starting off as a full-time filmmaker. And now I feel like I'm growing and progressing. So, uh, definitely want to make my short film and have you guys. I'll be great. And then, um, it feels weird. Have like, I have like, uh, yeah, it's not as easy as it looks, right, motherfucker? Yeah, just, I mean, just keep filming, keep creating, keep growing, uh, keep creating with you guys. Uh, yeah, I mean, hopefully by a house, maybe by the end of the year. I don't mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm 24, but, uh, yeah, I mean, I feel like I have a list and I don't know. I just like working for it. So yeah. Uh, it's about a mother who's at the, like at the edge of her, like, um, like her son is growing and he's becoming an adult from being 19 to 20, kind of like adulthood and it kind of like talks about how a mother feels during that time and how she transitions to, you know, still being a mom, but who she is after that. And that's what I'm focusing on this film. And, um, It's a hell of a script. Yeah. I mean, it's a hell of a script. Uh, and it was, uh, I'm gonna, I'll brag on this young man, any chance I get, but reading that script was like, dude, this is so deep and complex for this to be your first film that you're going to do right out of the gate is a, is a crazy undertaking. And, um, and, uh, the, the soul in it is, is really big, man. I, I can't, I can't tell you this enough, but we look the way that we look because of you and, um, and, and you, you deserve to be doing so much bigger and better things than, uh, then fucking around with, um, with, uh, with us. Sometimes I feel like, so, um, I don't believe that. I believe that you're where you're supposed to be. You're also going to be bigger. This is how quick he does it. This is why he will be the next Steve Spielberg. He is Spielberg's, Corsese, the Coen brothers all wrapped into one. What's the dude in Austin that does the crazy films? Uh, Arius? No, uh, Richard, Richard Linklater. Yeah. Somebody else. No, it's Richard Linklater. Is it? Yeah. Linklater, he, he did days in confused and we got the next ones that we were graced with and, and, um, filming two addicts and a moron. And, um, and, uh, I couldn't, you deserve so much more shine than what you get. And I know you hate being on camera and your fucking heart's beating out of your chest right now. And this is nothing that you're behind the camera guy, not an in front of the camera guy, but you, uh, you definitely deserve to be, uh, to be seen and be acknowledged by brother. Um, so, um, heading into 2025 guys, it's going to be a big year. I think I know, I know it will be. Yeah. Uh, it's going to be a big year for us as a, as a team and as a crew. And, um, couldn't be a happier to have three other guys sitting next to me than you, all three of you. Like what? So, um, you know, it takes a village and, and where one hell of a fucking village right here, man, you're starting to use a terms. I didn't know that. Okay. Recovery term recovery. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know that. Yeah. I'm sure it's other terms too. But yes, I hear that a lot. Takes a village. Yeah. Well, it does. And it takes one for this and, uh, and you're looking at it right here. And, um, you're also looking at it pressed upon our walls. And, um, this is our village and it's going to continue to grow, um, much like the Wu Tang clan. And, you know, we're just going to keep getting stronger and stronger. And before you know it, the killer bees are coming to the track. Wu Tang clan style. We're going to bring the motherfucking ruckus. Yeah. Real shit. Yeah. All right. Well, uh, I think we got this one in the bag fellas. Um, JV, you are getting ready to leave the country. Yeah. Yeah. Where are you going buddy? Going to Europe, going to, uh, Turkey and, uh, Turkey. Yeah. And Florence. Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, you know, if you see him out there, please stop him and say, Hey, Yeah, you better do it. Hey, would you shit if someone said, only shit, I seen you on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah. I would shit myself in Turkey. Dude. Yeah. That would be crazy. So here's what you need to do. We're going to put you to work out there. We're going to send you with the stack of cards to Turkey. Get, get some subscribers in Turkey, bro. And, um, but enjoy yourself. Have fun. Fellas, um, please, please come back. Say, yeah, please don't, don't not come back. That would suck. Um, and, uh, let's, uh, let's continue rolling this thing until next week. To Addix and Amoron and a maestro, a genius. If you're looking for a short filmmaker, long filmmaker, any filmmaker, how do they find you? Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta tell them. Yeah. Uh, just follow me through Instagram. That's actually funny. I'm actually doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, follow me on Instagram. Joseph Anoya. V.A. N.O. Y.E. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, if you need any commercial work, podcast, I do everything, if anything. So. Hey man, everybody needs to be watching you. Anytime you get in front of a camera, we're going to make that happen a little bit more during, uh, 2025. 2025. But, um, bro, you should sign the wall. Oh, wow. Yeah. We probably should have put them. You know what? We're going to add you. Yeah, we need to add you. We're going to get you added on there. I mean, I can try it. I can try it. I mean, I know how to draw too. I do? Yeah. Why don't you tell me that before I spend all this money? Yeah. You never ask. Fuck. No. No. I know that. Yeah. Well, uh, now we know. Now we know. Man of many talents and we're a podcast of many talents. Not so much. But, uh, but, uh, another one in the books. We'll see you guys next time. Like, subscribe, all of the things Spotify now everywhere. Um, Apple, Apple, all of them. Two addicts and a moron over and out. Love y'all.