The Pat McAfee Show

PMS 2.0 1502 - The Seattle Seahawks Win Super Bowl LX, Adam Schefter, Seahawks Punter Michael Dickson, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

153 min
Feb 9, 20262 months ago
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Summary

The Pat McAfee Show covers the Seattle Seahawks' Super Bowl LX victory over the New England Patriots, analyzing the dominant defensive performance, Sam Darnold's redemption arc, and Mike McDonald's emergence as a top coaching talent. The episode features extensive film breakdown, guest appearances from Adam Schefter and Michael Dickson, and discussion of offseason storylines including Max Crosby's potential trade and quarterback moves across the league.

Insights
  • Elite defense with efficient pass rush (getting home with four) is the most reliable path to Super Bowl victory, as demonstrated by Seattle's historic performance limiting Drake May's opportunities
  • Sam Darnold's journey from 'seeing ghosts' in New York to Super Bowl champion represents a complete narrative reversal, becoming the first QB from the 2018 draft class to win a championship
  • Mike McDonald's cerebral defensive scheme and leadership style (young, quiet, intelligent) represents a new generation of head coaches winning at the highest level alongside McVay and Tomlin
  • Special teams excellence (perfect field goal kicking, innovative punting) was critical to Seattle's victory and often overlooked in championship analysis
  • Offensive line protection schemes and quarterback decision-making under pressure are learnable skills; Drake May's struggles were partly scheme-related and partly experience-based
Trends
Defensive-minded head coaches winning Super Bowls with dominant pass rush schemes over traditional offensive-guru modelsInternational player pipeline expansion (Australian punters, Scottish kickers) becoming viable NFL talent sourcesFilm breakdown and analytics (EPA, DVOA) becoming standard post-game analysis for mainstream sports mediaSuper Bowl halftime shows shifting toward spectacle and cultural storytelling over traditional lip-sync performancesQuarterback evaluation increasingly focused on decision-making under pressure and protection scheme comprehension rather than raw arm talentGeneral manager tenure and organizational stability (John Schneider) enabling multiple Super Bowl wins with different rosters and coachesYoung quarterbacks (Drake May at 23) facing historically great defenses in playoffs as learning experiences rather than career-defining momentsSpecial teams investment and innovation becoming competitive advantage in playoff football
Topics
Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl LX Championship VictoryDefensive Scheme Analysis: Two-High Safety Coverage and Slot BlitzingSam Darnold Redemption Narrative and Career TrajectoryMike McDonald Head Coaching Philosophy and Leadership StyleDrake May Second-Year Development and Playoff PerformanceOffensive Line Protection Schemes and Hot RoutesSpecial Teams Excellence: Kicking and Punting InnovationNFL Offseason Quarterback Free Agency (Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers)Max Crosby Trade Demand and Raiders Roster DecisionsJohn Schneider General Manager Decision-MakingInternational Player Pipeline in NFL (Australian Punters)Super Bowl Halftime Show Production and Cultural RepresentationFilm Breakdown Methodology for Defensive Pressure AnalysisPlayoff Defense vs. Young Quarterback PerformanceNFL Draft Trade Limits and Future Rule Changes
Companies
ESPN
Network hosting next year's Super Bowl in Los Angeles; conducted handoff coverage from San Francisco to L.A.
KPMG
Finance company Mike McDonald interviewed with before deciding to pursue coaching career with Georgia Bulldogs
FanDuel
Sports betting platform discussed regarding Super Bowl LX wagering outcomes and public betting patterns
Ring
Home security camera company featured in Super Bowl commercial using doorbell footage to find lost dogs
MrBeast
Content creator running million-dollar puzzle giveaway promotion during Super Bowl broadcast
Cadillac
Luxury automotive brand entering Formula 1 racing with new team livery unveiled during Super Bowl week
Under Armour
Sportswear company discussed as potential partner for shoulder pad fashion collaboration
Budweiser
Beer brand featured in Super Bowl commercial praised by hosts for quality advertising execution
Duolingo
Language learning app mentioned by Darius Butler as tool for learning Spanish (230-day streak)
People
Sam Darnold
Seattle Seahawks quarterback who won Super Bowl LX after redemption arc from 'seeing ghosts' in New York
Mike McDonald
Seattle Seahawks head coach, third-youngest to win Super Bowl, defensive mastermind who chose Seattle over Washington
Drake May
23-year-old New England Patriots quarterback who struggled against historic Seahawks defense in Super Bowl LX
Michael Dickson
Australian punter for Seattle Seahawks, first Australian-born Super Bowl champion with innovative punting
Jason Myers
Seattle Seahawks kicker who set Super Bowl record with 5 field goals, perfect 5-for-5 performance
John Schneider
Seattle Seahawks general manager who won multiple Super Bowls with different rosters and head coaches
Kenneth Walker
Seattle Seahawks running back who won Super Bowl MVP despite not scoring a touchdown
Devin Witherspoon
Seattle Seahawks cornerback who generated multiple pressures and turnovers in Super Bowl LX victory
Adam Schefter
ESPN senior NFL insider who provided offseason storylines including Max Crosby trade demand and QB moves
Max Crosby
Las Vegas Raiders defensive end reportedly expressing desire to be traded after Super Bowl LX
Kirk Cousins
Atlanta Falcons quarterback expected to be released and become free agent in offseason
Aaron Rodgers
Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback who teammates want back; considering future after Super Bowl LX
Jody Allen
Seattle Seahawks owner who celebrated Super Bowl LX victory with team and fanbase
Mike Vrabel
New England Patriots head coach in first year, 307 days into rebuilding era with young quarterback
Bad Bunny
Puerto Rican artist who performed Super Bowl LX halftime show with cultural storytelling and spectacle
Darius Butler
Nine-year NFL veteran and co-host providing defensive film breakdown and analysis throughout episode
AQ Shipley
Former NFL center providing offensive line analysis and protection scheme breakdown on Monday Morning DC
AJ Hawk
Former NFL linebacker providing defensive analysis and linebacker perspective on Super Bowl LX
Pete Carroll
Former Seattle Seahawks head coach replaced by Mike McDonald after successful Legion of Boom era
Russell Wilson
Former Seahawks QB whose trade assets helped Seattle build championship roster under John Schneider
Quotes
"If you can get home with four and they can wreck the game, you can win anything. You can win the Super Bowl."
Pat McAfeeEarly episode analysis
"Sam Darnold overcame everything that he did. To go from seeing ghosts in New York to seeing his reflection in the Vince Lombardi Trophy."
Adam SchefterMid-episode
"This Seahawks defense last night, they got so much pressure on Drake May. They go down with the Denver Broncos team that won in 2015."
Adam SchefterDefense analysis
"I think Drake May will win a Super Bowl. He is so young. What he was up against is something that not many quarterbacks have had to face."
AJ HawkDrake May assessment
"It's a blessing. I love being able to help the team out and get the defense rallying around me when I pin it deep."
Michael DicksonPunter interview
Full Transcript
Hello beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble of Lose, the Thunderdome, on this super overreaction Monday, February 9, 2026, this sports program begins now. Football! Ah, that was it right there. Uh-huh. Yep. The last football chant of the 2025-2026 season. We'll be off starting tomorrow for a couple weeks, but while we're off, what we'll be doing is celebrating the greatest football season we have had. We'll also be celebrating the greatest defense we have seen in a long time as we celebrate the Seattle Seahawks as your Super Bowl champions. Congratulations to Mike McDonald, head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, hired a little over 13 months ago as the new era of the Seattle Seahawks shall begin with a man who was a defensive coordinator for Baltimore. But if you go back to like 2013 or something like that, he was our defensive assistant for the Georgia Bulldogs. Life wasn't going the way he wanted it to go at the time. He wasn't getting promotions. He was grinding it out. He wanted to apply to work for KPMG, finance company. Sat in the interviews. It sucks. Let me get back to football. Thank God he made that decision. What we're witnessing with him is maybe one of the smartest minds we've ever seen with ball. Now, everybody obviously compliments offensive gurus because it's special. It's the highlights. Hey, this guy's wide ass open. Hey, this offense is able to create this type of leverage in the run game. This guy's a super genius. Let's hire it. This guy, defensive coordinator, head coach, smothering defense, maybe the best in the history. Their run through the playoffs, absolutely dominant. And it's not just a dominance where it's like, hey, we're kind of let you do some stuff, Ben, but don't break. It's like, no, we are on your ass. And it's normally with just the front four getting home. So the other seven just get to sit back and kind of watch. All of them are thumpers. All of them are dogs. Darius J. Butler, nine-year NFL vet, host of everything DB, good D, bad D, here with us looking good D. What do they have in the corner of the team meeting room that Mike McDonald kind of leads? Just a stack of helmets of all the enemies' heads that they've taken throughout the season. We saw a little glimpse of it. I'm not sure what clip or what it was behind the scenes. We saw Mike McDonald in the front of the meeting room. And this is awesome. This is one of the best little props, gimmicks I've seen in a team meeting room. Love everything about this. Yeah, I think this is Mike McDonald's kind of MO. Hey, we're going to be hard asses. And in a post-game interview, whenever he was celebrating with Boomer, Booger, and Alex Smith, he mentioned about addressing the team and talking about, hey, I need to become a better public speaker for you guys. And instead of judging, his team rallied around him because they knew they had something special. Sam Darnold, seemingly the perfect quarterback for this guy. His revenge tour from going from absolute shite-ass bust in everybody's mind to now a Super Bowl champion. A man who will be able to say, hey, they've got a statue for me in Seattle forever, potentially. Sam Donald changed his entire career, changed his entire legacy, changed his entire narrative overnight in Santa Clara, California. And Sam Donald didn't even win the MVP. The run game, Kenneth Walker, who had to share the backfield with Charbonnet, ends up being the most dominant player. He doesn't even score a touchdown. Their kicker hits five field goals. First time in Super Bowl history that happens in Jason Myers. And we talked to him this year. whenever he beat the Indianapolis Colts. Phil Rivers, by the way, maybe a little bit more. Jason Myers goes on to set a Super Bowl record off of his right foot. Not a bad day at the office, I would say. He goes for 33-39, 41-41, 26. All no doubters. Even with a little bit of a catch by Michael Dixon, the holder to put that thing up. Pure as day. It felt like Jason Myers was incredible. Michael Dixon, the Australian first-ever Aussie to win a Super Bowl. Congratulations to him. He was unbelievable. Just pinning on me. He had a coffin corner late in the game. Got to get this thing out quick. Let me go ahead and hit a low liner that goes out of bounds. Inside the 10 with no return. I mean, he was special. All facets of this team were spectacular. And I'll tell you what, it makes for a pretty boring game. It makes for a pretty boring game. Drake May, the New England Patriots, absolute ass into the fourth quarter where he threw for 235 yards. Before that, none. What did they do on offense? Nothing. How did it look? Terrible. What was it kind of doing? Well, it was given a lot of opportunity for people to say Cupcake Schedule gets this New England Patriots here to the Super Bowl. Bo Nix doesn't get hurt. Are they still here? Buffalo Bills figure out how to mess it up, and they win it. Are they going to beat the Seattle Seahawks team? I'd like to say I don't think anybody was going to be beating that Seattle Seahawks defense. I think what that Seattle Seahawks defense proved, just like what the Philadelphia Eagles defense proved last year, It's like, if you can get home with four and they can wreck the game, you can win anything. You can win the Super Bowl. And the Seattle Seahawks, primed and poised to go ahead and do this for the next one. Four, five, six, seven, eight, ten, twenty. Is McDonald going to forget how to call defense? Is he going to get worse at leading and speaking to the team? I don't think so. Or is he only going to get better? Is the culture only going to continue to grow? Schneider, this guy, unbelievable general manager. Say, speak, Carol. Get out of my face. Pete Carroll came in and said, I want to talk. I think that's how we went. We can compete. We got to do this. We can do this. Schneider said, sweet, cool. Can we please get this old man out of here? He had a hell of a run. We appreciate it. Jody Allen, cool seeing her up there. I know nothing about her. She has no anonymous sources. She has no leaks in her. She is locking key, basically, whenever it comes to ownership. We don't hear nothing. Now, is that because of how far away they are? Potentially. Potentially. But it doesn't feel like they're ever working any angle. So watching her celebrate and give credit to everybody in the 12s, it was like a magical night for Seattle. And we might be looking at the next dynasty. We're talking about the Patriots being back to building a dynasty. It's like if this defense is going to continue to do this, which I think they possibly are, the whole league's in trouble for a while. Let's go to the toxic table at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt. Con man, hey, hey, way ahead of schedule. That's right. Way ahead of schedule. Looked bad last night. Did not look great through the playoffs. 23 years old. First-year head coach reestablishing this. How many days in the entire Mike Vrabel era is this, Conman? 307. So what does that mean for you after last night? I assume it was devastating. Patriots fans are used to winning these types of games, obviously. They thought, hey, we're back. I watched a video from Vrabel and the Patriots team that got me jacked off. Freebird. Holy hell. I like us. I like us. Boom, boom. Us against the world. It was like, yes, Patriots plus four and a half, right play. Then that game started, and you heard Chris Collinsworth say it a few times. I think Chris Collinsworth should always have something to say. Been around the game a long time. You are the color commentator. You're the one that's supposed to say stuff. I appreciate the hell out of you in there. I thought Tariko called an incredible game. But he was like, if they kick one more field goal when it was 9-0, if they make this thing 12-zip, this one's about as good as over. That's how it was literally through the entire first half and even into the third quarter. Fourth quarter, we get some magic that starts happening on the offensive side, But it felt like Seattle's defense was never going to let you guys back in that game. Almost had it back to recover. But how did you feel watching it? And afterwards, what is the perspective of the Patriots fans? Still a great year ahead of schedule. Yeah, no doubt about it. Leading up to the Super Bowl, you're hearing about this defense, and they're comparing it to Legion of Boom. And I basically was thinking, like, okay, let's slow down and have them win a Super Bowl first. They did that. They are, in fact, a historic, unbelievable defense. And Mike McDonald, whatever game plan he had for Josh McDaniels, I don't know if he was changing it. every other drive. I don't think he was. He was just fantastic. I mean, he called damn near a perfect game. You mentioned, you know, Patriots fans being used to winning Super Bowls. When the Patriots were down 12-0, I felt worse about that than being down 28-3 to Atlanta. Like, that's how kind of suffocating the Seahawks defense seems to be the entire night. And honestly, it was one of those situations where you thought that they were going to get a first down and start to go a little bit. But then I think in the third quarter, one of the things Tirico said, because he did carry it, he mentioned, you know, they haven't gotten a first down since. Well, Tirico is a weapon, but go ahead. Absolutely love Tirico. Good luck in Italy. But they haven't gotten a first down since the first quarter. You know, there was no kind of hope on the offensive side for the entire night. And then when A.J. Barner scores to go up 19-0, that's where it was like, okay, I don't know if we're going to, if we have the juice to go down and score three touchdowns. touchdowns, but a lot to build on. You mentioned it, 307 days into Brable's era, second year for Drake May. The sky's falling right now in New England, but personally, I feel great about the squad as a whole. We'll see where everybody goes and how everything changes. Ty, now, when you talk about lack of star power in this Super Bowl, I don't know if any stars are really made. Yeah. Like Sam Darnold, Mike McDonald, I think. Sure. Darnold became a star last night. I think Darnold wins, but Kenneth Walker? Didn't win MVP. I'm not talking about in the football world. I'm talking about in the universe. How the number is going to be gigantic. There's going to be 120 plus, 130. Last year, 127. We assume it's going to be up to 130. But it didn't feel like if you were outside, what did you take away? McDonald's, the young hotshot coach potentially. Kenneth Walker, unbelievable. Yeah. 161 total yards. No touchdowns. Still wins the MVP. That's how awesome he was to watch. Offensive line kind of does their thing. And for the Patriots, it's like Drake May doesn't have his best performance. Defense, I guess. I don't know. What do you kind of think the non-football people took away other than San Benito? Man, I wish I understood Spanish. Me too. Because he put on a whole Broadway. There was a full – I don't know. There was a movie? Was the engagement real? Yeah, allegedly. No, the wedding was real. There was an engagement early. You're right. So as soon as I'm watching the engagement, I'm like, oh, that's probably real right there. I wonder how they went about getting that to probably happen. Because for those that don't know, I've gotten a chance to understand this Bad Bunny character a little bit just strictly because I've realized he's a huge wrestling mark. Okay. So we also huge wrestling marks. So we know that he's show anybody that is a wrestling person that gets in there. It's like, okay, thinking about the spectacle, thinking about that. He has certainly done that. I mean, this dude did a residency down in Puerto Rico where people are flying in from all over the world. I think he lifted the Puerto Rican tourism thing like maybe 5,000%. I'm not 100% sure because of how popular he is. But he also loves the show. So him putting together an entire Broadway play, basically, which I assume was an incredible story. I assume it was great. Even whenever he climbed up the power things to tell a part of that story, I feel like he was telling the story of potentially Puerto Rico. Not 100% sure, but I'm thinking he was. As I'm watching and listening, I'm like, I hear, hey, I understood, hey, I got that one. There was a couple other that I was able to pick up, but I was thinking to myself the entire time, this is probably like a really historical and awesome kind of lesson about Puerto Rico. Wish I understood it. Now, I'd like to say or think that we are at the technologically advanced position of society where that thing should have been able to be dubbed over to me. Or subtitles at least. Yeah, because Spanish subtitles. We know. I tried, yeah. We know that's what that is. And then you go to Spanish subtitles, English subtitles, Spanish. You're kind of getting me here. Yeah. So if I could have heard and understood what was going on, I think I would have liked it more. But I enjoyed the show. I enjoyed the vibes. I enjoyed the bops. I enjoyed all that stuff. I had a lot of people that hated me saying, I wish I understood Spanish. I'm an idiot because this idiot jock is complaining about Pittsburgh. Not everybody's bilingual. Okay, I'm so sorry. I took French in high school and in college strictly because we're all taking French for the teacher because we were a big fan of the teacher. And then the teacher ended up hating us more. It was a bad decision. Then it was a bad decision. Now I understand that. I'm sorry. I've had other stuff going on. I can't just pick up Spanish. I'm sorry a lot. I asked Ray Mysterio to teach me stuff. I asked Dominic to teach. I tried my best to learn. But on that note, to your point and a lot of people's point, D-Buddy, I mean, that was more dancing than I have felt or experienced in a long time on TV. and if I would have understood it, I think I would have said the same thing I say now. That was a lot of effort, good show, great vibes. I do wish I could have understood it a little bit. For sure, the show was unbelievable to me, I guess being from South Florida and it being such a melting pot down there. There's people from all over different parts of America. There are parts of America that aren't that type of melting pot, but hearing it, obviously I heard it a lot more. My youngest daughter, she's half Puerto Rican, so her family had a whole thing. that just loved all the stories that were being told. Not only about Puerto Rico. Is that what it was? It was definitely a lot of stories. A lot of things that, you know, because for me, that's not a show that's for me, but I can respect and appreciate him putting on for his culture and telling all the stories, not only for Puerto Rico, but for Latin America. Obviously, the power grid thing, that was part of, you know, the hurricane that they've kind of still been struggling to get their full power grid back. But it was just unbelievable, I think, storytelling. I think the visuals, and to your point, like, I mean, I am on a 230-day streak on Duolingo, but I don't speak Spanish either. But I can grab on your streak. Thank you. And the visual of it, you know, I know a lot of people are mad about this much of it, about half a second, but, yeah, it was a lot of very pleasant on the eyes for most of it. A lot of dancing, a lot of good vibes. Ricky Martin. Dude! I need a couple of life out of him right now. Come on. Wee, wee, love. Oh, hey, oh, hey, oh, hey. And then I could have. Yeah, here we go. Gasolina was only for three seconds. We would have got some more gasolina. Another banger. I thought we were going straight into full get, didn't you think? Yeah. And I was pumped. And then I saw Ricky and I thought we were getting Viva. Yeah, nailed it. Or a cup of life. But on that note. I miss Ricky. It was an incredible show. Yeah. Incredible vibes. People are going to be pissed regardless of who it was. They were pissed at me, too, because I did like it. And so they were pissed at you because you wish you understood Spanish. They were pissed at me. I never said I didn't like it. Oh, well, I said I liked it. I said I loved it, killed it. And, boy, people hated that. That's not real. Those people aren't real. Those people aren't real. They can't be. Honestly, there's going to be 100 and what million, we think? 30 plus. Okay, so, I mean, we've experienced this at a much smaller level. Much, much, much, much. Much smaller level. the more people that see you like the more people that are gonna hate you like more people see you more people like you hopefully that's kind of the business more people like hey i kind of that's kind of my shit or people like i hate this person and there's people that get hate views obviously and they love that and then there's just people that just like hate people the more people that are there i think there's going to be a group of people that hate that you know no matter what i will say lady gaga did not expect to see her pop up out of nowhere no pop up out of nowhere kind of seemingly the human trees. Smart idea. Sweet. Could you imagine trying to move all those trees? Yeah, you're right. That was the only way to do it. Only way to do it is we humans would be trees. You guys got to rehearse. You got to do it because we need you in. We need you out. We don't have time to be stabbed. Who's grabbing trees? We don't have time to do that. We need you to be able to move because I thought maybe there was going to be something with the trees at some point because the humans were in there. But instead, it was like, no, just move in sets. That's the only way we can really do this. How many of them are? 1,400. Yeah, with $2,000, however, $10,000. We're just going to go ahead and do that. Smart, once again. Oh, yeah. It felt like he was in different sets. Yeah. It really did feel like he was in different sets. And then how about we talk about the pregame? You've got to talk about the ball security. Great ball security. Good spike. Time tight, yeah. Yeah, great spike. Better spike than I expected. Thought that was going to be a lot of elbow. He's an athlete. Elbow with wrist. Instead, no, actual spike. I was pretty impressed by that. Let's go. Pregame, flyover was sick. Yeah. Unbelievable. Flyover was absolutely sick. I thought that was coming from the clouds, you know, the handheld. This guy got great shot, guy or girl. I don't know who it is doing the handheld, you know, the operator. I think they cut him a little bit. Not going to judge too hard, but unbelievable stuff as you get them coming out of the clouds. Right back to Charlie Puth, who's incredibly talented, with then the sole fighter coming after. I mean, it was a beautiful little series there that kind of set the entire stage. Shout out to the fans. Normally, super corporate event. You know, usually like super duper. This is an incredible shot, too. Hey, boys. Yep. Yep. We just did that shit. We couldn't see it, but we know it probably looked awesome. I just think they did a good job. Yeah. I think the show was done well. And then, you know, halftime, going to get talked about, end of game, Tirico transitioning. Oh, yeah. Chris Pratt, Jon Bon Jovi. Great job, boys. Hey, Jon Bon Jovi did have a little note in there. Oh, yeah. You know, and then Chris Pratt just said, let me go ahead and just hand over this. You know what we're here for. Let's go ahead and get after it. I respect that and appreciate that. I thought it was a good game. Lacked star power, lacked explosives for a while, but I just think all of it did feel big as it was going on. Yeah, to your point, you could kind of hear it. Commercials kind of ask. So what's going on with it? So they're finding dogs? Apparently. I mean, what's going on? Is it the Batman basement? You know, where he walks in there and it's just, Alfred, yeah. Yeah, that's basically what they're like. Hey, everybody, happy you're all here. Let us explain to you what's been going on here. Is that one of those things that you sign in the agreement that no one's reading? You scroll to the bottom and click. Yeah, you can use my camera for whatever you want, probably. It's fascinating because obviously, you know, people go door to door whenever they're looking for footage. Dateline. Dateline, you watch these detectives go, we get this camera from blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A commercial told me, I don't know if I saw it properly, told me, it's like, hey, listen, You just tell us what you need. Yep. Nobody likes losing a dog. What? Time's up. I think that's what he said. No, they're finding dogs. No. Hey, families are happy. I mean, they're serving. These dogs are back with their family. They're tapping into every ring camera they can. Just like you'll see it. You'll see it. Boom. Boom. Boom. That's the Batman thing. That's the Batman basement. Exactly. At least now they picked that to say, like, yeah. The girl was happy. We're doing it. Yeah, it's happening. Okay, so I guess that's good. This was a takeaway for me. I will say this was one takeaway for me. Foxy just said. And that's an OBS, baby. Oh, yeah. Hey, coach. Let it go, B.A. I like that. Good idea, too. Encourage me. I got influenced by it. I'm like, yeah, actually, I am going to check because it feels like it's something that is affecting a lot of us a lot younger than any of us could imagine. And also in our direct group, it's like, hey, this is a very real thing. Shout out to B.A. doing his acting gig. And you see anything? nail it. Even like serene. When he looked over in the seat, I'm like B.A. That's no BS baby for a good cause and getting a chance. Duncan brought it as well towards the end there. They just played the nostalgia track and just hit all those bases with Ben Affleck being Good Will Duncan I believe was the name and they brought out the old Friends crew. Joey Tribbiani, I believe Family Matters, a couple of those people Steve Urkel. Yeah, there is Steve Urkel. This one I thought also fantastic. Duncan typically does though bring me in uh the other one was the mr beast million dollar giveaway thing puzzle yeah puzzle i thought that was really cool and they're still doing that i think he tweeted that nobody has yeah the puzzle or whatever i think i missed that in real time i saw him walk and then i think i missed the puzzle in real time can we figure that out what type of puzzle is it so it's like there i think there's four videos out right now and you just watch each video and there's something wrong with each video and that's how you kind of decipher the code and then you send it to him on slack or something in order to submit your answer to win the million dollars i'll tell you what mr b's got it we got this slack this go ahead and do that pull from here how you doing let's go ahead and get this thing operated if we pull it off though should be pretty big congrats mr beast yeah since he's like a teenager this dude right here since he's like a teenager one of these uh super duper thinkers yeah was the streaker a part of it was my question so streaker um is pretty jocked man pretty jocked man i guess he's the owner of the company that he was marketing on his chest and part so kind of a little um obviously i appreciate the fact that tariko said a real rocket scientist piece what he wanted to say but he's tariko is streaking out here and that is certainly true and williams chasing him down and potentially hitting him with one of i think was certainly fascinating because as players and coaches and i know this is never really even thought because it's always like, ah, and then the security people kind of get there and it's like a part of a game. For some players and coaches, you know, I'm not saying where they came from, but some situations where people are just sprinting at them that they're definitely not supposed to be, there's some uncomfortable feelings by people, especially on a football field. So we've seen situations in the past where players or coaches have been like, absolutely not. You have no idea if there's a knife, you have no idea if there's, what's the messaging? You literally have no idea in the world that we're in. So I think that is why Williams immediately was like, I've been planning for this day. Yeah. You know? Like, who knows who this person is? So that seemingly jacked, man. Hit him with an okey-doke. Yeah, pretty good run. Kind of went down. Allegedly his own company. I mean, filming it on his Oakley Meadows. Okay. Okay, so he's going to have the shot and probably break down why he chose to juke this particular out-shaped looking one. Yep. As opposed to going at this one. So pretty good little football game. You ever been part of the game, the streaker? Have I ever been part of a game with your Super Bowl? Did you have one in your Super Bowl? No. I don't think so. Have you? No, I don't think so either. I think we would remember, right? Squirrel. Yeah. Who's squirrel? Yeah, had a couple of those. MetLife seemingly had like a black cat too, I think. Oh, I don't remember that one. I think multiple times. I definitely remember that. I remember that. Yeah. For the rats, yeah. Yeah, so I think I had black cat scored a touchdown in MetLife I was there for. Pretty good. Everybody just standing there literally like, go on. Mm-hmm. Is that the 10? Okay, sick. Squirrel, I think we've been a part of a squirrel. Never a streaker, though. That one, there was one that had a smoke, like a... Yeah, against the Rams. Yeah, San Francisco. What's that? Pink smoke? Yeah. Yeah, the pink smoke. Was it Bobby Wagner that got it? Yeah, it was Bill's Rams season opener. Yeah, so I think that the reason why Torrico talks the way he does about it and other people are just like, yeah, this is a streaker. It's like, you have no idea. No idea. Yeah, and now, granted, did they get checked coming in? You assume, but... I mean, people got interesting ways of doing stuff. That's right. And people are willing to do stuff. It's like, never can be too safe. And I would like to reiterate the fact, San Francisco was good to us out there. Had a lot of people start talking about that whole thing. It's the same thing. Yeah, it is. A lot of people talk about that whole thing. Hey, it's a nice city. We've been walking around here miles. I mean, we... A lot. People are talking. I had a lot of people, I believe, representing to the right wing of the political sphere, quote tweeting our video saying oh isn't that nice mr private plane guy who gets security into his hotel that is a five-star thing and then gets driven to the backstage of a convention center yeah i bet it is nice he was like hold on now i understand that could be my life and that sounds pretty sick actually that sounds but i'm not there yet we walked that shit i'm in the table i mean we We were all over that place. And even on the maps, it says, like, moderate incline. It's like, that's a lie. San Francisco, especially if you live in Indiana. We're putting in steps. I mean, we're all around. Now, granted, it was just our area. San Francisco, very, very wide. I assume there were shitty areas. I mean, it is a city. I think that kind of happens in most cities. I think we even have some areas that are, like, not great. But the part we were at was very nice. And then, you know, there were some people that immediately attacked me for saying it was nice. Because, oh, this guy's been brainwashed by it. Right. This guy thinks San Francisco is like, you think? that that is what everything we had heard coming out, including what the mayor had to say, of like three years ago, four years ago, was like that city was down and out. And we would like to say from our experience, seemingly very, we were not there when it was down. Nope. We were not there when it was down. We were just there this past week. We went to Stanford. We were there. We were in San Francisco for a morning. We did a show down there. We've never really been in Dunn, San Francisco. It was nice to us. I think Super Bowl would say it was a success. People may not know when we say walk, like those are like 15 20 like 15 20 minute bops like oh yeah downtown and you know most major cities downtown areas you're going to have some sketchy parts and sketchy pockets obviously you know you're going to run into some unsavory characters but yeah it was and not the weather the weather is perfect it was crispy perfect but yeah the city the city from from our uh it was very from our perspective now there's people i say you don't think he dipshit they just cleaned it up because you all were coming to town maybe what do you think maybe i want they did a great job yeah and if it stays this way it'll be incredible if it goes back to being a dump the next time we're there that's what we'll do we'll say it we'll tell you that's right was actually planning on leading off the show if it was saying this place is a shit hole yeah i was planning on it do you remember that oh yeah can't wait to have to tell the truth about san francisco if it is not great because we're getting reports from people i don't say both political parties but center and one side telling us directly not great, and then a little bit on this side saying, it used to be very, think it's better. It's like, okay, so we had no idea what to do. Excited to tell the truth about it. Like, that's what I think this whole shit's for. And, yeah, it was great to us. It was great to us. Phenomenal. And the mayor had a little jumper. Mayor, one of these. One of these, which I appreciate. Oh, yeah. I guess Steph Curry's been in the area. Yeah, no, yeah, certainly. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP turn, turn. When it comes to the gambling, when it comes to what happened last night, obviously under hits, which is not good for the public, I would assume, because the public loves overs to hitting that entire thing. And then Seattle Seahawks cover with ease. And they were the 71% of the public bet at one point, then down to 67%. They were the odds-on favorite and also the public favorite this entire time. How do you think the sportsbooks did? And how did most people do throughout this season? Did we get our asses beat this year by the sportsbooks? Or how do we kind of feel? I'll start right there because it has been a long season, so we tend to forget things. The public got their asses beat this year. When we were going through the season and we did this every Monday or Tuesday, I think there was like two or three winning weekends, but the playoffs got better. And then obviously in the Super Bowl, things got better for the public if you were on the Seahawks, which majority was. It started at 75%. By the time we got off the air on Friday, it was down to like 65%. I think it ended somewhere around there. So the public won. On the Seahawks side, obviously, they got the money line. and they got the cover there. The under, which was a dead nuts under the whole game, almost went over if Kenneth Walker's touchdown did not get called back there. So they got the under there. Then obviously if you took anything on the defensive side for Seattle, whether it be interception or sacks or whatever, touchdown, all of those hits. I went 3-1 first quarter under. Drake May overpassing yards. A.J. Barner under a half yard. and then I lost Sam Darnold over his passing yards because he didn't really have to throw. Obviously, first touchdown of the game was another one. Another, if you didn't see it on the show. Come on, Gabe! Sports Rage had A.J. Barner first touchdown. That hit again. I would say it was a good night for the books because, you know, JSN got hurt. He was out a bunch from Monday. Stevenson did get the touchdown but didn't go over his numbers. I would say good night for the books in general. Yeah, I would say any time an under hits in a big-time game, You know, that's going to be good for the books. And that felt like a lock early, but then they almost caught it. Almost. Oh, yeah. That fourth quarter, Drake made. Does that give you hope? Okay, because this is kind of my takeaway. There was a sentiment like, hey, playoffs come, Drake made in, play good. We were on the side of like, it was tough situations. You got to one defense, and then somehow again, the number one defense. And then, oh, yeah, a better number one defense. So, like, he did hit like a murderer's row of defenses in the playoffs. But I think you're going to. Like, that's kind of what it's going to be. So some people maybe say big moment, big bright lights, North Carolina never really had to play in those types of games. He can't do it. I don't think that's the case. I would like to argue that I think it is a 23-year-old quarterback who hasn't seen a lot of defenses that he can pull from. And then he's been tasked with taking on maybe the best defense in the league, maybe the best defense in the league, maybe the best defense ever. whenever it's all said and done, depending upon how their little dynasty, not little, sorry, how this potential dynasty goes with McDonald in that defense up in Seattle right now. MLB, dark side, you know, bullshit, dark side. We're hanging helmets in the corner there. I think Drake potentially rattled, definitely quick, overthrowing a little bit. Not by the moment, but by like a little bit of intimidation potentially by he doesn't know what the hell is going on. Remember, and I don't want to tie this back to Sam Donald because he just won a Super Bowl, but it's rude. But there was a point in Sam Donald's career where he's MC and Gus. And I don't think he's the only quarterback that's ever thought that. And that can certainly affect you. Him through this playoffs with what he's had to deal with defensively and then in the Super Bowl with what he's had to deal with with the Seahawks without a lot of good protection, but him also being pretty reckless with it all. What is your kind of thoughts on Drake May as a whole as we go into next year? Is he made man at this point in your eyes? No, definitely not a made man. He had a great second year, almost won the MVP. but he still has, I think, really good pieces around him. And why I had so much confidence in him going into this game was because Josh McDaniels has still been there. And then Mike Vrabel has still been a great head coach. So he has good pieces around him. This will be a learning experience for him, for sure. We saw a little mic'd up on the sideline in the weather against the Broncos in the NFC Championship. He's like, hey, man, this is hard. And once you get to the playoffs and you play these teams, you're playing the best of the best. You're talking about Denver, Mo Sacks. Talk about Houston. Historically great. Then you get Seattle. And on the offensive side with the Seattle Seahawks, didn't turn the ball over this whole playoff run. So with that defense, you're almost never going to beat them. But, yeah, with no protection. And then when he did have opportunities to hit some throws, throws that he hit all year, he didn't. He missed some layups. And that's just part of it. He didn't play his best ball. He'll learn from it, I think. I think he'll probably use his legs a little more in these situations, not only just from him, but from the coaching standpoint as well. But this team, this defense, like we talked about Snyder earlier, just studs on every level. And then their head coach, Mike McDonald, he's unbelievable when it comes to dialing it up. Yeah, and to your point, like the good pieces, you mentioned coaches. They need good pieces on the outside and the inside where it's like, hey, it doesn't matter what they're in. We're just going to throw it here, and they're going to be open. He's going to have a chance. Like there was never a point. Stephon Diggs was their number one this year. He had his worst game yesterday, and that was shocking. It felt like to everybody. And I don't know what the plan was going into it, but it felt like at some point they had to either scrap it or go a different way, and they just could never get anything going no matter what. They couldn't run the ball. What's that? They couldn't run the ball. Yeah, the playoffs are just so good. Yeah, great. More, right? I mean, McDonald came out and said, if he can stop the run with split safeties back there, you're in a good spot. Yep. What does that mean? So it basically means, you know, you don't have to put eight in the box. You hear that term a lot, eight men in the box, and that basically means you go from a two-high safety look and then you go to a single-high safety look, which means you bring one of those safeties from the deep part of the field, and now they have to get down there closer to the line of scrimmage to stop the run game. But when you can just stay in that quarters-type, too-high defense, first of all, for the quarterback, it confuses a lot more things coverage-wise because when you are single high, you're 1-on-1 on the outside. You know you're 1-on-1. But when you have those two safeties, you can just trust your front seven to stop that run. And they did, and you put them in a situation where they have to drop back and pass the ball. It's going to be tough sledding. That second pick, I think Drake, middle of it, was like, oh, shit. I think that was I didn't expect there was four guys there yeah you know the second way he threw it he had a Matt Collins throw that was a completion right before the touchdown it was filthy unbelievable then the drop in the pocket but then there was one he threw in a double coverage with the two crossers right in the middle of the field and the game basically yeah right here I think he was in the middle of that and go oh no oh okay yeah because they show a close up of his face whenever he throws it and I legitimately think he goes oh no as he's throwing that because there's so many people back there because they don't There's nobody up. So, like, there's more people in coverage. And that's what the Eagles were able to do last year when they dominated the Chiefs. And now the Seahawks just did the same damn thing against the Patriots. I have not lost faith in Drake May. I think all these things are him to learn from. Okay, light box means probably there has to be humans somewhere. If he's not here, he's probably here. All these things are good for Drake, even though in the moment it had to suck. And he got choked up last night afterwards. And you can see, just by the way he was sitting in his build and his face, it's like, this guy's so young. Oh, yeah. Boy, this guy is just so damn young out there. You know, it was a huge difference, and I did not see this coming. Sam Darnold had a lot of pressure, too. Milton Williams was just dominating their right guard. Sam was unbelievable in the pocket of getting out of the pressure and missing and avoiding and then making plays. And Drake was not in that sense last night. He sat there a lot, took sacks where maybe he could have run or whatever. But I think a big difference was that Sam was so good at avoiding those sacks, and Drake was not. Sam was running one to the right and cut up. Yeah, yeah. I was like, ooh, Sam Darnold. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is senior NFL insider for ESPN. Shout out to ESPN, by the way, hosting the next Super Bowl. Should be an absolute blast. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Chef Darnold. Yay! Oh, you're down there, Augusta. Good to see you. I'm still in the green room. Am I allowed to leave here Friday? I got here 9 a.m. Friday morning. I'm waiting to leave here. I haven't gotten your clearance yet. Am I allowed to go yet or not? Yeah, what all happened is, I do apologize. Guys, I wanted you to join us live so we could thank you for the season that was. You showed up for us every time we needed you. And then one thing led to another. People got stacked. I heard you were back there potentially holding court a little bit. Heard you met some people and everything like that. And then whenever I go back for the next break, I'm like, is Chef here? No, he had to leave. I'm like, got it, got it, got it. We apologize for that. I want to let you know that. All good. All good. All good. I just left there five minutes ago. So it's like I can't do it. Time to go catch a flight home. All right. Yeah, I understand. I understand. I get it, too. We knew there was going to be a little something, and there should have been. Okay, let's pitch out a little bit about that Super Bowl, and then we'll move to off-season storylines, because Max Crosby is going to be a huge part of that entire thing. A big storyline coming out of last night is that the Seattle Seahawks defense might be legendary yet again, that the Patriots are potentially in a spot where they're going to be okay. What are your thoughts? What are you hearing around Super Bowl time about how the game actually went last night? Well, I think the Seahawks defense cemented itself as one of the great defenses of all time. I still like the Bears and the Ravens all-time defenses, but this Seahawks defense last night, they got so much pressure on Drake May. To me, they go down with the Denver Broncos team that won in 2015. They go down with the Legion of Boom team that won a Super Bowl and almost won two. They're in that upper echelon of defenses. They gave New England nothing last night. But to me, the story of this postseason and this Super Bowl, People will always remember it as the time in which Sam Darnold overcame everything that he did. To go from seeing ghosts in New York to seeing his reflection in the Vince Lombardi Trophy. To bouncing around the league from New York to Carolina to San Francisco to Minnesota. To finally winning a Super Bowl in Seattle. Five teams. Nobody's ever done that before. Starting and winning. It's just an amazing journey to get to where he wound up. He's deserving of it. He obviously played a great postseason. He did not have a turnover all postseason long, which during the season they were second in the league, second in the league most turnovers behind only Minnesota. And then they played clean, flawless football in the postseason. Sam Donald did a tremendous job. And I think people always remember that, and it's amazing. He's in that draft class 2018 that produced Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. and he's the first quarterback in that draft class to win the Super Bowl. And him and Josh Allen are very, very close. And as much as Josh Allen would love to reach and win a Super Bowl, I'm sure he's incredibly happy for his good friend Sam Darnold for winning Super Bowl 60 last night. Yeah, and people are going to hold Sam Darnold over Josh Allen's head for the rest of his career until he wins a Super Bowl with how this whole thing has gone and how we judge postseason. Lamar as well and Baker. Congrats to Sam on that. Feels like he's a perfect fit for McDonald in Seattle. Let's talk about McDonald. When he got hired to Seattle, I think we expected him to get a head coaching job, but we didn't know much about him. He wasn't at Baltimore for long. I think he was in college before that becomes a D.C. over there. Crush, I think he starts slow. I think he wasn't good early, like maybe very, very bad early. Then he figures it out quickly, turns Baltimore in the defense that we remember from the Baltimore Ravens, gets a head coaching job. We all just assume it's going to take place, but because he's a defensive guy, we don't know much about him. He's certainly unique, I think, whatever he talks, how he talks, how he acts, but his team is unbelievable. Can you tell me a little bit about McDonald and why everybody knew he was going to be a good head coach and kind of where he thinks he's headed? First of all you talking about a very cerebral guy really intelligent really soft really quiet and really a really good guy And I don know that there been a head coach this successful He's the third youngest coach in history to win a Super Bowl, joining Mike Tomlin and Sean McVay, which is the kind of company that he's now keeping, to win that Super Bowl. And when he was coming out, he interviewed in a bunch of places. He interviewed in Carolina. He interviewed in Washington. Seattle was one of his last interviews and the interesting thing was the Washington commanders had a high level of interest in hiring him and his wife Stephanie was a cheerleader for the Washington football team and Stephanie's family is from that area so you would have thought no brainer wife's from the Washington area wife worked for the Washington football team like that's where he's going and even when he was out in seattle visiting the commanders got him on the phone and made one last ditch effort to try to get him to come back to washington from seattle washington where he's visiting but in the end the amazing part about it was to me he chose to take his wife and move across the country and seattle was my very first job out of college like it's a great city it's a beautiful city it is a far away city like if you can get to europe quicker than you can get to seattle and mike went there because the main reason was he believed in the general manager john schneider he just trusted and believed in him felt like that was the right guy for him and john schneider rewarded his efforts because if you look at what they've done a trade Russell Wilson in that trade that nets them amongst other things. In that trade, Charles Cross, Boye, Mafé, Devin Witherspoon, all the players that they got in that Russell Wilson trade. And so, to me, Russell Wilson helped Seattle win its first Super Bowl, and Russell Wilson helped Seattle win its second Super Bowl yesterday. And John Schneider pushed all the right buttons. Like, if we go back to last off season two, they wanted to keep Geno Smith. They wanted to keep him. Geno was the one who wanted out. And when Geno wanted out, well, then they traded him to the Raiders and pivoted to Sam Donald, another great John Schneider move. So Mike McDonald goes to Seattle because of John Schneider. John Schneider rewards him for his commitment. And now together, they won a Super Bowl together last night in San Francisco. That's a hell of a play by John Schneider. All the decisions he made pissed a lot of people off throughout all of it. You know, moving on from Gina, moving on from Pete, moving on from DK, moving on from Ty, moving on from a lot of people. I mean, you can go back, I guess, whenever he moved on from the Legion of Boom and built on with Russell Wilson. He's made a lot of decisions where he has taken a lot of shots to the shins. So for him to get to the point where he's the only guy ever to win multiple Super Bowls in the same organization with a completely different team and head coach, It's like the amount of fires that he had to be in, especially in the world that we're in right now, where everybody wants everybody's ass. If it isn't a Super Bowl, it isn't a Super Bowl, it isn't a Super Bowl. So for him to get a chance to feel the confetti again, I assume was pretty gratifying. I assume there was some real moments of fulfillment there for Schneider, Shefty, I would assume. And listen, when you win a Super Bowl like that, usually it's because your owners are great, usually because your GM is making the right calls, usually because your head coach is a stud and your quarterback is really good. Like, those are the starting building blocks. Now, Seattle had an exceptional defense, and that was the key to the win last night. But John Schneider did make all the right moves from hiring Mike McDonald, luring him away from Washington, which wanted to hire him, and then going out and making the move with quarterback. Like, that's a dramatic move last year at the quarterback position. And, again, I don't think that was plan A. That was probably plan B, but it was a great plan B, and it worked out as well as it could have for John Schneider. And all the moves that they made, that defense is just fast, strong, built to last. Now, here's the other thing. They've got some major decisions to make this offseason because they're going to have Jackson Smith and Jigba eligible for a new deal for the first time. He's going to want a new contract. Devin Witherspoon is eligible for a new deal for the first time. he's going to want a new contract. You're going to have those issues at a time where you have other free agents, players whose contracts are up like Kenneth Walker with Zach Charbonnet out with a torn ACL. So they have to solidify that backfield. And Quinn Kubiak is taking the head coaching job with the Raiders. So now you've got to have a third different offensive coordinator in three years. On that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Shepty, is there any idea who the next OC of the Seahawks will be? I mean, I know, you know, the game just ended last night. but is Kubiak going to take a lot of that offensive staff with him to Las Vegas? Is there any kind of name that you can think of, or what's that process going to be like naming a new offensive coordinator? Yeah, they have on their staff a quarterback's coach by the name of Andrew Giannaco, and I think Andrew Giannaco is going to be an offensive coordinator, whether that's with Clint Kubiak in Las Vegas or whether he stays on in Seattle to become an assistant. Michael Byrne spent the 2024 season with Kubiak in New Orleans. I would imagine he might go. The run game coordinator, Rick Dennison, and run game specialist, Justin Otten, they have a history with Kubiak. Look, I don't know exactly how it's going to break down and how it'll work out, but he's going to take a couple people with him, I'm sure, and there's going to be a little bit of discussions who stays and who goes, and he's going to have to build a staff, and Seattle's going to have to rebuild its offensive staff. We assume they'll be able to do it, man. I just assume they'll be able to do it. I'm going to now, and Seattle Seahawks fans are going to say it's about time. I'm just going to assume they're making the right decisions up there. And I know they have felt that way, but I am going to assume that the Seattle Seahawks are making the right decisions until I'm proven that that is not the case. But being able to just flip an entire culture, paint over some of the walls. Hey, we've got to do a whole new chapter. Very rarely works. That's why we're seeing in New England, awesome, no matter how this kind of goes. And definitely now, Seattle Super Bowl champions yet again with an entirely new roster. A whole new locker room, a whole new building, one GM, and an owner who's an absolute beast. I think Jody is a monster. I think she is a great owner. Congrats on all of their fan base. Continuing to be in prime time is good for ball as a whole. So I'm pumped for them. Let's move. Go ahead. Well, one other thing, though. Before, I think my colleagues at ESPN reported they would be for sale and that they could fetch a record price. I think they estimated $7 billion. I had somebody in NFL ownership tell me that they think the C.S. can get $10 billion, which will become the highest price paid. $10 billion. Billion. There'll probably be more than that, too, because Seattle certainly has all that money up there. There's a lot of NorCal area. A lot of people probably want that. That's good. Multiple people that have a shit ton of money are potentially going to win. they win the Super Bowl. Congrats, Jody Allen. Congratulations, if that is the case. Let's move to some other storylines that are going to obviously take up some of the offseason. Go ahead, Conway. Yeah, real quick, Seattle not favored to win the division next year. Something to think about as far as how far up they are. But, Shefty, news that we kind of were reading today. Max Crosby told Tom Brady, hey, I'm never going to play for the Raiders again. Is that real? And then also... Jason LaConfor, I believe. Okay, Lock on four is the one who reported that, that they had a conversation. Is Max Crouchy forcing his way out? Is he most likely done in Vegas, or is this possibly just the first iteration of the Miles Garrett type thing where he gets a new deal and gets paid a bunch of money? Well, look, I think Max isn't overly thrilled to be there right now. I don't know exactly what he did or didn't say to Tom Brady. I think there's a feeling around the league that he would like to be traded, and then the question becomes, is he actually traded? The Raiders prefer not to trade him. Now, it depends how dug in and how headstrong Max is here in this particular situation. They just signed him to a contract extension a year ago. Mark Davis always has loved Max Crosby. They've got a new head coach coming in, and Clint Kubiak. They're going to have the number one overall pick in the draft. Fernando Mendoza is going to be a Raider. They have $90 million in cap space. And it could be that Max has grown so disenchanted with being there that he absolutely wants to move on. But I think that there may be a window to sit him down and say, look, you can be a big part of this turnaround here. And I know that I've done that one three times. They've already done it three times. I got it. I know that they would prefer not to trade him. And I know that if they're even going to listen, and I'm sure they probably will wind up listening, I was told it would take a Micah Parsons-type package to even consider dealing Max Crosby. Now, is somebody going to give up? All that the Cowboys gave up from Micah Parsons? I don't know. We'll see. But I think with these situations, he may want out of there, and they may be open to listening to it, but there's still some steps that have to unfold here before we know exactly how this will play out. How far into the future, because the NBA trades like 20, 35 first-round picks. How far into the future are the NFL teams allowed to do that? It's funny you say that. Right now, teams are not allowed to trade draft picks beyond three years. You can only trade up to three years. Wow. Hey, where'd you go? You have to open a safe in your brain there to find that information? Like, what happened there? You were trying to find that one. You didn't expect that question. No, I didn't. But the funny thing is I had a conversation with somebody about that this week. And I'm going to tell you right now, there are going to be people in the NFL this offseason that push to have that limit grown to five years. Yeah. So they're going to try to... 20! The NBA, I think, are about to bring 2075, if you want. You know what? Right now, it's three years in the NFL, and this has not been out there at all. So you can put it on your bottom line. There's going to be a push by at least one team this offseason to extend the NFL trade limits from three years of picks to five years of picks. We like that team. Okay. We like that team sacrificing the future for the good of now. That's right. We'll deal with that later. We can get those things back if we need to. You need us to be asked? We'll pick up some more of these picks if we have to. Don't you worry about that business. I love that action. I love that movement. Now, that's coming from a team that gave away two number ones for Sauce Gordon. Hey, Sauce, excited for you to be back next year. Excited for you to be back next year. But I was trying to think in my head about Max Crosby. Okay, so we just need to give 20, 30, 12, 31. That's what we need to just go ahead and give those. But I guess it's not a lot to do. It might be Ballard who's pushing it. Ballard could be. You think I should be allowed not to trade all these teams? It's not. What's that? It's not. I mean, he might vote for it, but teams have to vote on that. But the proposal will not come from the Colts. Well, they need to co-sign that thing because we don't got a lot in the next three years. We don't have anything. We don't have anything but sauce and our team going to Super Bowl. And I saw Daniel Jones with Fernando Mendoza. That was cool. And it was tweeted. It said, Indiana quarterbacks are like, okay, so we signed him. That's great. what's his deal worth. I'm excited. I'm very excited for that. You know, we would certainly be pumped up about that. Okay, let's move to some other storylines, shall we? Speaking of quarterbacks, go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shafty, speaking of veteran quarterbacks, let's talk about Kirk Cousins, who is rumored to be released and then be able to be a free agent and go wherever he wants. And then Aaron Rodgers, there was also a report about Aaron Rodgers this weekend that he loved his time in Pittsburgh. And the teammates loved him. They spoke about him glowingly in the X interviews. I heard that as well. What's the latest on Aaron Rodgers and then also the Vikings potentially bringing in a vet to compete with J.J.? Could that be, Kirk, what's the latest on all that? When they had the exit meetings with the Pittsburgh Steelers players, almost to a man, they all wanted Aaron Rodgers back. And the one thing that was conveyed to me was how much respect and love there was from other teammates about Aaron Rodgers and how much they wanted him back. And the idea at that point in time was to give him about a month, give him some time to think about things, process things. And in that time, they go and hire Mike McCarthy. Now, they didn't hire Mike McCarthy to bring back Aaron Rodgers, but I don't think that hurts the situation at all. If anything, it helps it. And so, obviously, Aaron Rodgers has to decide what he wants to do, but I think the Pittsburgh Steelers absolutely would love to have him back and would welcome him back. Kirk Cousins, he's expected to be released. They restructured his contract with the idea that he's going to be released. He'll be released before the new league year begins. I think he'd like to play, but he's going to consider all his options. that could include TV, that could include retirement, business, whatever it is that he wants to do. He'll have the option to doing it, but the Falcons will release him before the start of the new league year, so that'll be an option for him. And you bring up Minnesota. Yeah, well, Minnesota's always going to bring in a quarterback. Obviously, they have to do that anyway. The question is, who's that going to be? I asked Kirk about Minnesota last week, and I didn't get a no, but I didn't get a yes. It's possible, but there's a lot of things out there that are possible with him. He's got that older couple, body gurus. Exactly. They live up there. Good fires. Remember, we watched quarterback with him up there in Minnesota. He seemed to really enjoy his life. Maybe he goes back and says, listen, I was never supposed to leave, but they gave me an 80-some million dollars guarantee. Sorry about it. How do you guys do? How do you guys do? Pretty good. Sam Darnold, yeah, I watched that. That was crazy. He's a Super Bowl champion. Hopefully we are. That's right. There's a chance that all that happens. We shall see. Okay. And now, because we are on this Super Overreaction Monday, all eyes are on the next football season. Off-season storylines in abundance. Who is going to get to the top of Lombardi Mountain? Can anybody beat the Seattle Seahawks? Those are all storylines that are developing. But what's happening on this day, D. Butch? What's happening on this day? You guys do property. Yes, we do. 2-4-D! I heard! 2-4-D! Which way are we going? That! Yep, yep, yep, yep. Happy handoff day! Oh, wow. Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day! Woo! Happy handoff day, Shefty. Hey, how was good? How was good? How was good? Good cadence? Nobody jump? We good? That was good? Perfect. Good handoff. Good arm movement. Good cards? Yeah, it's just like we're happy handoff day. Happy handoff day. Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day, boy. Hold on, Shefty. Hold on. We're leading this one. Not you. Okay? You got all your talking points. Yeah. We're doing journalism around here. One hand off, Jack. Zero, I know it's a long ways away, and obviously 32 teams want to be there. But is there any plans that ESPN has that you maybe want to break that we can look forward to in L.A. next year? Maybe you already know the halftime performer. Anything you want to break, Shefty? Come on, Shefty. Well, I've seen the NFL script for next season. It's a doozy. And wait until you see the Super Bowl matchup next year in Los Angeles. I mean, I couldn't believe when I read the script. I couldn't believe the script, the halftime performance, everything. It's really incredible. So it's going to be a magical year ahead on ESPN and ABC. And the handoff, you carried that ball better than Bad Bunny there, Pat. That was good. You had good ball security. I would like to say San Benito actually had bueno ball security. I would say. I would say good ball security. So that was a nothing right there. That was a nothing. Come on, Adam. Shifty football. Shifty beating conspiracies, Scott. Listen, I'm in L.A. right now. I'm in L.A. right now. And all I know is the Super Bowl is on February 14th next year, the day before President's Day. I think that's the latest the Super Bowl has ever been played. Yep. I said to the people this morning, we're here in L.A., we flew in yesterday to get up here this morning, be part of the handoff. And we might as well just take up residence in L.A. because this is going to be a huge event for the network. A lot of people spend a lot of time here over the next year. A lot. Okay, sounds good. Sounds like a plus. I don't think we knew, did we? About the handoff? I did not. I heard about it on Friday. Yeah, me too. We learned about this. We were talking to some of the people from the ESPN NFL crew. Yeah, we're on the ground. That's sick. What the hell are we talking about? But as we were, I learned about this from an ESPN NFL on-air talent, kind of multiple in a group conversation. Yeah, we're flying to L.A. for the handoff immediately after the Super Bowl. What's that? Excuse me. The handoff. The handoff. What's going on? Oh, the handoff because the ESPN Super Bowl, I'm sure it's like, oh, sick. When's that happening? And then it's like, cool. And then I see that graphic. I'm like, oh, fuck. We certainly were supposed to know about that at some point. You would think that we were supposed to be told. It was cool. Scott Van Pelt was out there. Oh, yeah. I believe NFL Live was out there. Laura Swagu, Ryan Clark were out there. Like 1230, 1231. I saw the graphics. 1231 o'clock Eastern, something like that. Yeah. It was very out there. Disneyland this morning. Yeah. Look, sick. You were at NBA Today's studio, right? Forget it. Correct. Yeah, that's where we were. Why weren't you at Disneyland? Hey, why didn't you go? Come on, Jimmy. Do the terror. Tired terror. I've been gone nine days, and I want to go see my dogs and my family. I get that. Might have been why we hang out here on Friday. That's on us. We appreciate you guys doing that for the good of next year's Super Bowl. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Great season, dude. We appreciate you. Hey, I appreciate you guys having me all year long. Honestly, love being with you guys on Mondays. Always a lot of fun. And I'm just happy that I can leave the green room right now. Thank you. All right, Chef. He's good, man. Check it out. Yay! Acting like he was having a terrible time back there. I know he was. Exactly. Getting numbers. Yeah. Hey, holy shit. Who would have thought? You and me here. Hey, I'm out of Sheffern. His Rolodex grew. Certainly. The more big. Yep. I believe there was not only that. I mean, there was also. Some bigger names. I think, too. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe not at the end. Fernando Mendoza might be a go down here. But, yes, certainly others. And Bill, Bailey McComas is seeing this like, this is like a big moment for Sheffern. Mm-hmm. Boom. And then all of a sudden, you look at the photos, and it's like, Shefty just had a happy hour, basically, in our green room. A lot of handshaking, good for him. But he did leave before we'd get him all a show. He was becoming a weapon behind our lens. Yeah, Bailey's good. No, I'm not saying it. What's that? Well, he's good, you know? Yeah. I've never seen a camera. Yeah, well, bingo. You know? I'm talking to Bailey. He's been taking pictures like that for years. We're just seeing him now. Yeah. I didn't know there was a connected device. Yeah, we had all those years of stocking. He's an unbelievable cameraman, though. He's a photographer. Yeah. Like, actually. Good editor, too. Bailey, yeah, you're kicking ass for us. Bill, we appreciate it. Everybody had a post from the Super Bowl. It was like, oh, Bill's photo. Yeah. You're the man, Bill. And he'll walk right into a place that's really tight with that camera, too. Hey, how you doing? Hey, look that way. From 30 for 30 Podcast. Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman for Miami. Gunned down. The key to this case, it's Brian. Boys! An hour before he died, he was on the phone. This might be a hit. You want the truth. They just want to convince you. We had a killer amongst us. Margarita, you listen now. Football! It's the greatest and... I don't want to do it. I know. You don't have to. I've got days if you want to know how long. Talk to the table at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. How many days until football kicks off again? Until NFL football, 213 days. Oh, my God. That's so many. Holy shit. I think we're at near 200 for college. I don't know if that helps. Like two weeks ago, I know. Okay. Okay, that's football stuff. They're wearing underwear, sprinting, running, doing their things. Everybody's there. There's free agency. There's a tampering period. There's the draft, obviously, happening in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Hell, yeah. There's a... Owners meeting somewhere in there. Yeah. Where they're going to vote on stuff. Maybe five years in future trading. Coach Bush against it. Basketball. No. Don't do that. Basketball. Yeah. UNC. Duke. Yeah. Sick. What a finish. I was like, man, it's two court storms. Yes. Two court storms. The Olympics are happening. Kind of bored. Yeah. A little bit. Hey, I don't like it. Commentators as well. They came out of nowhere, really. Want to have a hammer? Done. Cowboy said, I'll be odds on favorite to not know these are happening. Me too. I turned on TV. I saw something happen. I'm like, are these trials? What's going on right now? They're like, no, this is live. This is for the thing. I'm like, what, Saturday? This is a nice little edition. And all of a sudden, I see Ilya. This guy is. The back flipper? Yeah, and quads. But I think the Japanese guy was better. I was told that nobody could touch Ilya because he's point ranking, like Simone Biles is so damn high, that nobody would be able to catch. That's a lie. They got a guy. He got caught? Cole. In the team event. Now, we ended up winning. Oh, okay. We got a couple that's married, too, by the way. They were on those three. That was unreal. And they're married. They've been doing this a long time, having a moment. You see the hair on the long? Awesome. Tight. So we won that. That was sick. That was awesome. The Italian lady went in the speed skating. I guess she wasn't supposed to there in Italy. That was like when I turned it on. I thought for sure we were supposed to win those things. We won gold on the one where Lindsey Vonn crashed. Breezy Johnson. Incredible name. 20 years old. Very crying in there. Lindsey Vonn story. Crazy. That was great. Terry's ACL. I'm still going to do it. Does a test run. Fast. Maybe runs. Maybe wins the whole thing on this test run. As a 41-year-old, I think. And then her run. Looks like a little bit of a buckle. and then all of a sudden she's in a helicopter dangling above Italy. That was crazy. People pay a lot of money for that. That was crazy. Not in that particular way. Good tour, though. Yeah. I hope that she's going to be okay. I don't know if we've got any update. I hope she's obviously an incredible athlete. But, yeah, the Olympics came out of nowhere for all of us, I think, Tony. Honestly. I think we're still dominating curling. But, no, it's like it was – Yeah. I saw us lose the Great Britain. Oh, shit. Yeah. I thought we won. Mixed doubles. Mixed doubles. and I think we ended up losing 6-4 or something like that. I might have seen another one. But there was no palate cleanser between football season and the Olympics. I feel like we needed a day. Yeah, Tarika literally doing postgame. Yep, this is fun. Great, too. Let me tell you about what happened in Italy earlier today. With the confetti around him. Yep. Crazy transition. Incredible motor out of Mike Tarika, who's obviously a stud. We are big fans of his. And Chris Collinsworth, the sixth Super Bowl last night, did his thing. That's Chris Collinsworth football there to a tee last night. So him being around the game for so long. and also having to introduce himself to fans that may be never – as a former NFL wide receiver, he said a couple times, I don't know if that was a resume check for people like Connor, you know, who – I don't need a resume check. I just need them off my TV. Exactly. I don't know if he was saying that to Connor and other people. Or it was to the people that have never really watched it. And I'm like, hey, I'd like to let you know I'm a person that did this, so I'm speaking from this perspective. I think it was great. But, yeah, you're right. The Olympics came out of nowhere, but I love hearing that national anthem. Yeah, yeah. Certainly. I absolutely love it. And the team figure skaters, they got there. They started jumping. I mean, in skates, doing the whole thing. Dangerous. They live in the danger. Yeah, you're right. That's why we should be excited for the next couple weeks watching Lynn. USA Hockey. When does that start? Yeah, Thursday. Yeah, boom. Thursday, USA Hockey. Women's one. Our women's already started. They're better than everybody. Good sport, it feels like. Very fast. But on that note, Darius K. Butler, nine-year NFL veteran. Thank you, Mike. D-Bot, basketball going to be good for us this last year? Or do you think it's going to be NFL storylines that are going to win today? Because remember, Players' Championship coming up, we might. May. Who knows? USA Baseball coming up, we might. May. You never know. Combine coming up, we might. May. You never know. Draft coming up, we might. May. There's so many things. There's so many. We won't. Final Four in Championship this year, though. Okay. And we might. We might. May. Who knows? You said that one. Who knows? There's a lot coming in the office. But it is a tough morning this morning when you wake up and say, football season is done. It's over. And then you look in the mirror and you think to yourself, did you properly appreciate this football season? When you were watching that fourth quarter as Drake May was coming alive and he started seeing some special stuff. Borreales hits a left-footed back onside kick that ends up not working. But still, I like a little bit of sauce being played. You think to yourself, this ain't happening for long. It's 207 days after this. 13. This morning. 213 days. Sorry about that. So I thought about that. Did you think about that as well? Oh, yeah. I thought about that last night when you see the confetti. Obviously, it's a great season. It's a great story for Sam Darnall and the Seahawks and obviously all the other players as well. But it's always tough. But I, at least, I'm going to find something to hold on to. NBA basketball playoffs. When the playoffs get going, I do love the NBA. They're staying in that league's ass, right? Ah, yeah. The playoffs will always deliver. And that goes for most points. They're saying people lose them by 20-some-odd. NBA playoffs deliver. We got the World Baseball Classic. You mentioned it. And, for me, the pinnacle. I mean, I saw my GOAT, Sir Lewis Hamilton, at the Super Bowl. It was company as well. But I also saw Cadillac. Talk about hearing the anthem. Maybe we'll be hearing the national anthem at a couple of F1 tracks this year. We win a couple with Cadillac. They unveiled their livery. Hold on. They run the national anthem when you win? Yeah. Whoever is the driver that's top of the podium. So if Cadillac wins, which we're going to, by the way. We're coming in. It could be in Jeddah. It could be in Brazil. It could be wherever you are in the country. Whoever wins their national anthem. So not the racers' national anthem, the team. Ooh. Yeah, let's get an American driver in there. Let's get an American driver in there. I don't think there's an American driver. Jeff Gordon. Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart are the two drivers for Cadillac. Are they putting Tony Stewart out there? I'll tell you what. Tony Stewart and F1. Okay, let's move along. You watched the F1 movie. That's where we're at right now. We're here right now. I didn't watch it. What? No, that's what I'm saying. If you watch the F1 movie, I think, just like me, you're going to give it one shot. Sonny Hayes is our reserve driver. Nice. He may be up here. Okay, that's Brad? Yeah, that's Brad. Okay, so I told you guys, don't want to watch it because I don't have the capability to add another thing into what I'm interested in. Agreed. Okay? this is just like and it felt like it did this to you it did there's some movies that come out that really sway people and buy them in you remember that one where they made everybody vegan oh yeah you remember when that was happening hey watch this documentary you'll never want to eat meat again it's like I fucking like burgers I am so sorry I like chicken wings a lot I know it's probably terrible but a lot of us like to do that so we apologize but I had a couple friends who watched that no more wings done forever and I'm like I can't risk it stuck to it I don't know That's a good question. We should follow up. Probably not. Wings are too good. Chickens. Bacon. Oh, my. Steak-cooking bacon in your underwear. It's the best. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to watch this F1 more because I don't want to get swayed. It seems like it's so awesome everybody loves F1 immediately after one. You just do what I did. You watch it. You love it. You enjoy it. You talk about how if Brad Pitt actually drives in this, he'll be the best driver, and there's kind of no point. I'm never going to watch an F1 race. I love the movie. Love the movie. What about the Cadillac? They're right here. Ten minutes away. Not even. No, it's different. If the Cadillac team starts winning, then you might hear me saying, like, we got the best fucking team in the world. So, yeah, that is a possibility, but you don't have to hear. The Cadillac driver does hammer pints, I will say. What is he, American? No, he's driving. No, he's driving. Yeah, he does it. What's his name? I forget. I just saw him in like a beer promotion on Instagram. I was like, this guy's cool. Clicked on his page. He's a freaking driver. Did you see Joe Montana in a FanDuel commercial with a dark beer? Everybody else had a light beer. That was awesome. That's Joe Montana football. I was like, only Guinness. It can only look like Guinness. Well, we're at a bar. It's sports. Everybody's drinking like Guinness. I don't care. I need Guinness in here. And he was holding it for a different company. Matt and Ben. Vinny trusted in that as well. Yes, he did. Vinny, by the way, great weekend. Great performance out of Adam Vinatieri. Better out of Luke Kuechly. True. No doubt. Larry Fitzgerald looked unbelievable. Cannot wait to meet Mr. Roger. Now, joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who was not squatted by the Monty. But he is a man who's won a Super Bowl championship. He's won a college football national championship. He's a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, Adrian Hawker. There you go. Hawker, how you doing, man? I'm doing great. Happy handoff day, guys. I know we all were very aware of that and prepared. So, yes, good day. Happy – happy – Oh, I swear. Another one, another one. There we go. You don't want to fumble. Good hand. Oh, wow. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. Two hands on that thing, man. Yeah. All right, hold it to Holgate. Oh, okay. I didn't know if you were going to go. I got it in my right hand. I got it in my right hand. Okay, down under the table. Sweet. I appreciate it for you doing that. Let's talk about holding on to the ball, no turnovers. The Seattle Seahawks offense, zero turnovers all postseason. First time to do that since 2009 when Drew Brees beat the Indianapolis Colts. He just threw a ball in Miami in which Colts had to lead at halftime. And then onside kicks started in the second half, and then Drew Brees and his baby are in the confetti for the rest of their lives. He's now first ball Hall of Famer. Congrats to him. And now the Seattle Seahawks potentially. Are they lining up to do this again and again and again? AJ, what's your takeaway from the Seattle Seahawks team? Feels like with McDonald there, defense always going to be elite. Sam Darnold seemingly never in a better place than in Seattle with a team that has rallied around them and special teams. Perfect. What are your thoughts on the Seattle Seahawks team and what could possibly be now that we know that they can win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, it's an unbelievable season what they were able to do in this game last night. I mean, say I'm using his feet. That was like the X factor, I think, that we may not have thought of before this game. He'd been able to elude like free runners a few times was gigantic too. But, I mean, everything they did, the field goals, the special teams, pinning them down inside the four, five, six yard line multiple times in Witherspoon. This dude blitzing. Also, I'm very happy for Derek Hall, this guy right there. I think Will Campbell kind of got screwed a little bit trying to get some chip help, and he almost knocked him off of you, knocked your guy, knocked him into Drake May. So I don't know if that one's on Will Campbell as much as some other people may have think so. But look at Witherspoon. How are you ever going to block that dude? He's running a 4-1, and he's so violent. Their defense is an absolute thing of beauty to watch. Okay, so tell me about being able to get home with four and then let alone bringing pressure and Drake May being 23 years old and thinking to himself, geez, what the hell is going on on the other side of the line of scrimmage? Do you think it was more that or the moment? I think it was Drake May, 23, second year, first year in this system, learning a lot about what NFL defenses can do throughout this playoff run and saying, holy hell, now we've got to recalibrate in an offseason. I think Drake May will win a Super Bowl. AJ, your thoughts? Yeah, I think he definitely will at some point. He is so young. I mean, what he was up against is something that not many quarterbacks have had to face in a Super Bowl. Like the amount of pressure they're able to get on. Like he just was never comfortable. We say it all the time, like, oh, you've got to get a quarterback off the spot and make him feel uncomfortable. Well, that's what this Seattle defense did from, like, the first snap of the game. Like, they're just absolutely relentless. And I guess we shouldn't be shocked. Like, how many players at Super Bowl, at Media Row, told us, like, hey, this defense is violent. They're coming, like, the snap of the ball. They are coming downhill. They're penetrating, and they get there with bad intentions. I feel we had multiple players tell us that throughout the week. Brock Purdy definitely said that. He was like every single player in D. But it wasn't just that they're coming with bad intentions. It's also like a lot of moxie on that Seattle Seahawks defense as well. Yeah, and that's what Brock Purdy talked about. When we hear about defense, they're just players talking in general. I forget who asked them from our show about, you know, shit-talking and getting after. Obviously, the toxic table was shit-talking Brock Purdy. But he was talking about the Seahawks defense and how much just energy they have and how much shit they're kind of talking to each other and having people up. And, I mean, you can see it. When you turn the tape on, when you're watching it on TV, you can see the guys flying around. You can see that they're one of those defense who is like, and AJ, you've been a part of this on the sideline. Like, hey, who's going to make the next play? Who's going to make the next play? And like on the Patriots, when you're playing offense like that, it's almost like, all right, they're taking turns making mistakes. So it was tough. You know, tough slay for Drake Mabel. Just a phenomenal job out of Seattle Seahawks defense all year long and then played their best, you know, on the biggest stage. Yeah, defense is obviously incredible. But whenever they have maybe the best punter in the ball punting for them, whenever the ball needs to be sent the opposite direction, What a game. What a season. I mean, a couple weeks ago, hits the ball so high, obviously caused a turnover late, helped Seattle go on to win. Then in the Super Bowl, you're talking about innovative, courageous punts, not only pinning them deep, but obviously setting the Seattle Seahawks defense up to be historic. Ladies and gentlemen, the first ever Australian-born Super Bowl champion, punter for the Seattle Seahawks, Michael Dixon. What's up, lad? What up? How we doing? Congratulations, man. Genuine. Oh, thank you. Okay, because you obviously have been somebody, I think, that a lot of Australians have been inspired by whenever they come over to kick in America, but also American kickers and punters realizing what's possible with a football. So you getting a chance to experience the flowers, and then in the biggest game that you've ever had, having one of your best games you've ever had, and I'm saying one of them, I don't know where you would rank it, I think it's special, brother. You're good for the game. You need to know that as a whole, Michael. Oh, yeah. Appreciate it. No, it's a blessing. I love being able to help the team out and get the defense rallying around me when I pin it deep. You know, it's a crazy feeling. Tell me about Jason Myers. Obviously, tell me about your game, your entire special teams group. Feels like McDonald really cares. Feels like there's been real investment. I think they've invested in every asset or aspect of special teams. Can you tell me about the culture a little bit and how they treat the third phase? Yeah, for sure. Mike definitely prioritizes it, gives us our time. We meet. Jay Harbaugh is a genius and, you know, puts a lot of trust into our guys to execute some of our schemes. And Jay, my obviously setting the record and just he's a robot. The attention to details that he has, it's pretty crazy to see. And I'm so happy that he was able to ball out yesterday. Yeah, amen. Here's a stat from Hembo that we got about your entire special teams. We have a special teams efficiency dating back 20 years since 2006. This Seahawks unit, 75.8 on 0-100 score, scored the highest by any Super Bowl champion during that time. Great defense, phenomenal special teams. Don't turn the ball over. Feels like old school football out there. Can you describe McDonald a little bit? Obviously, you were with Pete Carroll for a while. Obviously, you're from Australia. Live in Seattle, I think, now for most of your life as opposed to just down in Texas. Can you tell me about how life changes when McDonald gets in there as the head coach for you and for the team as a whole? Yeah. So, obviously, Pete was the oldest, you know, coach in the league when he was here. And then we got Mike, and he was the youngest. And Mike came in, and he was just himself and genuine. And he came in and told us, like, hey, guys, I'm going to do my thing, and I believe in you guys. And it's been so fun to play with him just because, you know, he's so well read and he thinks about every aspect of the game. And it's been so cool. And we've learned a lot from him, as I did with Pete. AJ has a question for you, Champ. Yeah, Michael, I guess what about you personally? How did you feel yesterday riding to the stadium, getting out there pregame? Did you feel something special in the air? that you feel some electricity that your team was going to find a way to get this win? Yeah, I mean, all week the guys were super chill. We had meetings at the hotel on game day before we headed over, and everyone was chill. So I knew that we were going to come out with some swag and do our thing, and, yeah, we did it. I mean, this group is super confident and laid back. We've got a pretty young team, and they didn't shy away from the moment. So when you're hitting balls in warm-ups, you know? Have you ever had bad warm-up? When was the last time you had bad warm-up going into the game? No, I don't really have a bad warm-up. I feel like I'm pretty much just got my routine down, and, yeah, I feel good. Yeah, it looks like it. You put that 51 yards on the sideline. And by the way, having Tirico as the commentator for you, great news. Because early in the game, I don't know how much you've heard. Early in the game, Tirico giving you your flowers. Like, a lot of people saying this guy's best in the league. I mean this is what it is Then boom inside the five Then you have a backed up punt Bang 51 yards on the sideline no return Like Tirico gives love And also the game was very boring I mean you talking about like 10 punts and 12 possessions It was like you were the highlight there for a while, and Tirico was showcasing it. You're good for ball, man. You really are. I love it. You're going to take the Lombardi back to Australia. We saw Robert Irwin try to tackle an American crocodile on our show. I don't know if you saw that. He did the American death roll. You're going to have to check it out on the playoff. Yeah, but Australia hosting game, obviously big deal. You taking Lombardi back there, and what are your kind of thoughts on Australia getting more invested in the NFL, which we are very pumped for? Oh, I love it. The game's going to be a sellout. There's going to be 100,000 people there. It's going to be the Rams 49ers, hopefully. Hopefully the season after this one, the Seahawks get out there and play in Sydney or something. That would be a dream come true because the game has grown so much. it's been really cool to watch what's the lingo we need there's another one in there there's one word what? that you guys use how many letters? how many letters? it's kind of it rhymes with what you were maybe the best in the world I think I know what you mean australia took hey i think it was a cool culture i was down there for eight ten days every other day i've met through the punting world it's like i'm a fan of like i i think your guys's vibes athleticism everything is great for sport i'm happy the nfl is going back to time is crazy though the time yeah time is oh yeah how do you do that with family do you like have set times that you catch up with people how's that all work yeah i mean it's hard to it's hard to face time with the time difference obviously but there's like sections of the day where you just make it work and then traveling like everyone's freaking out about traveling with the team but you know to go play there you leave at night and then you land in the morning it's really i think people are you know overestimating how jet lag they're going to be i feel like it's worse when you go to europe so i think i think everyone will be fine i like where your head's okay now the thing that scared the hell out of me and you know this is you know they have a screen in front it's tracking where a plane is that's all blue there is nothing there is not a single we're 10 hours into that thing and it's all blue it's like okay so if anything happens here at all there's no chance no there is so you kind of get that going you know as you're sitting in a tube for that long but you're right if you are able to make it to waking up in the morning there it is like fresh up and then the coffee there food oh yeah the food's so good over there so yeah yeah you're world champion here though don't Don't ever fucking forget it. All right, Dixier, let's not forget it. Okay, we've got a couple more questions for you. Go ahead, D-Bug. Congrats again, champ. As a defensive player in that great defense you play with, as a punter, you're a part of that defense, like a punt. That's like first play of defense. I'm sure you probably wear a defensive colored jersey in practice. I hope you do. So I want to just ask you, what's your relationship with that defense? I know a lot of young guys that fly around, talk a lot of shit, which I love. What's your relationship with that defense? And then Mike McDonald, I want to ask about the prop you guys have in your team meeting room that made its way to the internet with all the helmets, kind of the heads of the opponents that you've conquered throughout the season. What was your first reaction to seeing that? Yeah, relationship with the defense is like we're close. I love those guys. And like I said earlier, you know, I down one inside the 10 and everyone's running up, patting me on the head and getting around it. So that obviously means a lot. But, yeah, I mean, we're cool outside of the game as well. So this unit is super close. It's been really fun to be on this team. Yeah, and then the helmet stacking. I mean, it's just a cool visual. And, yeah, I mean, collecting heads. Yes, yes, you certainly are. Yes, you certainly are. It doesn't feel like it's going to stop, you know. It just doesn't feel – and we were telling the Niners that. They were coming on the show obviously all week. Fred was a part of the actual coverage. Oh, yeah. Kyle Shanahan, a part of the actual coverage. NFC West, San Francisco 49ers, a large part of the coverage. And then all of a sudden you've got the NFC West, Seattle Seahawks actually in the Super Bowl. Interesting dynamic there, especially with the relationship. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, speaking of that, I'm sure leading up, you guys obviously aren't thinking about that at all. But after you win the game and you're celebrating and you've got the hats and smoking cigars and everything, was there any part of you that was kind of like, you know what, this is actually awesome that we won this in the Niners Stadium and we kind of get to just stick it right up a division rival's ass one more time a couple weeks after beating the shit out of them. For sure. I mean, that made it that extra bit. It was a cherry on top. You know, there was in the locker room, all the 49ers logos were plastered with Seahawks logos. Yes. And, yeah, I mean, it made it extra sweet. It couldn't be any better. It's perfect. The future of that NFC West looks very good, you know, for the long haul. Obviously, you know that. How old are you now? It feels like you're vet now, vet, vet now. Yeah, I just turned 30, so I'm going into my ninth year. It's coming next year. Okay, so you guys start kicking over there when you're like four. Let's have a kick. Let's have a – you do the entire thing. And it feels like, I mean, with the way punter and technology, it's Thomas Morse that just finished up, what, year 19 or something? Yeah. You got another 10 years of doing this, you think, in the body? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this has been my best year hitting the ball. I mean, each year I've improved, so I'm like, why not? I mean, not even halfway with my career, hopefully. You got more shit to do with it than you guys bringing in the banana ball and all this other stuff. I mean, that last punt where you turn that song bitch sideways, you know, and line drive that thing over their heads. The reason why I think it's so impressive is because if that's a foot lower, that's hitting somebody's head. And then all of a sudden, you know, this is worst night of Dixon's life. Instead, the amount of courage and confidence in yourself that that takes just to be like, let me go ahead and just sidewind this thing over six-foot-four freak athlete's heads. Because if somebody puts their hand up and blocks that, this guy's a dipshit. Dixon's an absolute dipshit. But instead, like, just having the ability to move the pocket a little bit, right or left, being able to athlete it almost. It's like you're a special talent, Michael. It's really cool shit to watch. Is there more on the horizon, or are we just mastering everything we already have? Yeah, I think there's a couple that I've been playing with that, I mean, it's more situation-based that I should, I might bring them out next year, we'll see. Yeah, let's run a, let's score a touch. Yeah, I do. Oh, yeah. Let's go ahead and do one of those. We appreciate you, man. Safe travels back. Oh, thank you. What's next, you guys? The parade, I guess. Hold on, Tony has a question. Yeah, Michael, is there any one of your teammates that we need to keep our eyes open for at the parade? Who's going to put on a show at the parade? Like, if you had to pick one. You know, AJ Barner's going to do something funny. Okay, good. He's a meathead, so he's going to do something cool, I'm sure. Great touchdown. First touchdown of the game for the reporter, AJ Barner. Shout out to him. He won a lot of us money. He won a lot of us a lot of money. Very, very, very pumped for AJ Barner. Tell that meathead to enjoy the hell out of what he just did. He certainly should. John Schneider is who AJ said. AJ, is that going back to the Packer days? John Schneider can really tear it down, you know, especially with what he accomplished? Yeah, he's a man's man. And I would say he's going to enjoy himself. He absolutely should. He's the first guy ever to do this, right, as a GM. Yeah, absolutely. Full new team. Now, hey, Michael, what is the Australian's for this? Foster's. Foster's. Are you just ordering all the Foster's in the Western United States of America for the parade, or how's that going? No, I think Foster's is kind of like the Outback Steakhouse of beers. What? You're telling me the German onion isn't real either? You son of a bitch. That was great. What do you mean? What do you mean by that? Yeah. No, I mean, I don't see anyone drinking Fosters. Yeah, you're in America. Australian for beer. Exactly. That was good marketing. They got us. Yeah, big time. Have you seen the, okay, you know rugby probably because you grew up in Australia, right? Yeah, I know it. I didn't play it, but I don't know. Do they do the Oklahoma drill? Like, is that thing that we're seeing on TV right now or on the Internet, is that like a known rugby drill? Like, how do we get to that point? The one that we're watching, I think, is founded by Aussie dudes. I think all these are founded by Aussie dudes. It's just rugby running directly at each other. This is called Run Nation. I believe it hit this weekend. Run It was another organization that we've seen on the internet for a while. They were just kind of doing it at a field where there was just a line of people and they were just running into each other. Is that normal? How are you at this game? Good, I assume. And can I jump over the person? I think this is kind of like this was something that people would probably do at practice or at school, you know, it's just a way to kind of see who wins to flex on the other person. But, yeah, I mean, it's blown up. It's a crazy, crazy sport. I would never do that. Okay, so southern part of Australia, if I'm correct, Aussie rules football, right? And then northern kind of rugby. Is that accurate? Yeah, so it's, yeah, east, northeast is more rugby. I grew up in Sydney. That's more rugby. but then Melbourne, Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, that's more Aussie rules. Who's your team? Collingwood, Magpies. Oh, hey. Cockzilla. I was a big fan of the Magpies for a while. I'm going to let you know, though, Brisbane Lions gave me a jersey. We just went back-to-back. We just went back-to-back. Yeah, it's great to be a Brisbane Lions, brother. I want to let you know. We love that sport. That's a great – I didn't know about that until, like, COVID. Yeah, COVID. I learned about Aussie rules football and COVID because everybody said that punting style that you guys were doing is rugby style, rugby style, rugby style. It's like, I guess it is rugby style, but all these dudes are Aussie rules football players. I had no idea that was the case until COVID. Great game. Great sport. Yeah, no, it's fun. Yeah, I miss it. I still dream about it sometimes, and I'm out there killing it in my dreams, so it'd be cool to go home and watch it. Are you getting some speckies? What is kind of... Oh, yeah. Yeah, you are... I'm getting speckies, kicking it around, scoring goals. It's all... You know what you're doing now in real life, bro? Yeah, I know, even better. Yes, sir. But also, I mean, hitting one of those. What is that at the cricket grounds, I believe? Oh, yeah. Off somebody's back. In the grand final. Oh, my. Then you back that thing up. And then now it's like, what a moment. The dramatics of it all are awesome, too. I got a chance to go watch it in real time. Somebody goes up there, lands. Obviously, there's a huge reaction. There's supposed to be a clock on how much time they have to kind of get the next kickoff. that clock is there's a lot of like zero it's okay there great sport man obviously have created some legends congratulations on winning a super bowl and hopefully this becomes even more of a pipeline australia into the nfl because obviously i think the continent will love american football we appreciate you man oh thank you so much no problem hey take care of it dude all right fosters Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good to know. Yeah. Kind of a dick move if you ask me to just hang up like that. I think it was a perfect answer. Actually, perfect ending to the conversation. He's a weapon. He's really, really good. Yeah. He's actually 30. I thought he was the only guy. So, Brad Wing, I don't know if he left LSU early or Dixon left Texas early. I don't know. One of them left early. I thought Dixon was the MVP of their bowl game. Yeah, and I think he left. I don't know if that was early, but then he left. But, yeah, he is. He's unbelievable. All the Aussie guys that came over, it was like, hey, they could be the next Dixon. They could be the next. They could be it. And then for him to actually be the one, because a lot of tried, like a lot of tried, a lot of great Aussie punters in college. A few have obviously made it into the NFL. Scotland now has a couple. Ireland has a couple kickers. It's like these ball-kicking countries are starting to get kind of into the NFL. But out of Australia, Michael Dixon was the one where everybody was like, oh, this is possible, this is possible. I think he's pretty unique no matter what country he was from. I think he is very, very unique. How big is he? I would assume he's a strapping laugh. Big laugh. I would assume. But he has the ability, they call it a torpedo, which is what we do for punting. They call it a torpedo kick. His ability to torpedo the ball, tight spiral with a bad drop, means he's, like, athletic. He, like, has to change his foot to his drop, which is only happening in, like, half a second because his drops are kind of interesting. They're down and inside. But the way he's able to control it, and then he's got all these other shit, it's like the amount of courage it takes to do it in a Super Bowl, in an abertile level, obviously huge, but the amount of talent you have to have for all of that. It's like, he's a special dude. I appreciate all the international ball kickers coming, but it's like, I think it's going to be tough to find, you know, just another Michael Dixon. I know we're selling, like, hey, there's more Michael Dixons. And maybe there are some that I don't think there's going to be a lot of them. I think there is levels to this whole thing. America, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, Dixon's a guy no matter what. That's how you chart a Maelotta. Like you kind of think, oh, okay, Australia has Dixon's and Maelotta's just growing on trees and they're all over there and they're eventually just going to come over and become, you know, superstar punters and left tackles. But it's few and far between. I mean, that's why he's the first punter. Hard to make the lead. Yeah. Skips through 2-10. He left early. Okay. Yeah, big fan. Did he kick and punt in college? Just punted. Just punted still? Yeah, dude. He was like. What are you doing that game? A great question. 14 and inside. Oh, okay. 18 tackles. But him going to Seattle is just so far away. Yeah. You know, punter in Seattle. I mean, think about the amount of stories. Yeah. That's not a lot of like national. Especially with the defense. He caused the turnover. What was that? Two games ago. So it says they punted 11 times in that bowl game, 10 inside of 15. Second time. Okay. Okay, that'll do. Yeah, pretty damn good. And whenever you ask him if he wears a defensive jersey, he said, yes, I do or whatever. It's like, I think he takes a lot of pride in what he does. He's obviously phenomenal. Seems to be super chill. Yeah, big time. Super chill. Great mood today, that's for sure. Well, how about Bob Irwin? Oh, yeah. Now we've got Dixon on the program. Kind of doing down under around here. A little bit. Start working on that Aussie accent. I know. I need to continue to kind of brush it off. How about him saying, and everybody talks about the flight, like, leave at night, wake up in the morning. It's kind of time. Way worse going to Europe. There, D.C. Okay. Starting to get in. I appreciate you doing that. Let's start working on that because I think down under is going to become big for football as a whole. Speaking of football as a whole, you know, it's nice to have hindsight in this particular sport, in this particular game, especially in the biggest game of the year. We started a segment last week that we certainly should have started about beginning of the season, maybe two years ago. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Monday Morning DC with DB. Obviously, Monday morning means like Monday morning quarterback where we have the incredible heads up of hindsight on what actually happened. So this is coming from a space of how would you have stopped it with one of the best defensive minds to ever speak into a microphone, Darius J. Butler. How are we fixing the problems that happened for New England last night if we're to look back at the film? Well, you know what? It was tough to fix those problems because usually that's where we start, and we'll see that probably in the third one. But this one, since we have such a dominating defensive performance, we'll just go with the good to start out here. Let me get this stick back here. Yep. Oh, nice. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Just so we can get a vision. Hey, great fucking job last time. Hey, it was pretty good. I felt like I knew what was happening. I've been trying to – yes, sticks. Now we hit sticks. Oh, okay. Oh, nice. Touch hits. Scores. Hand off dates. Touch tips. Whoa! Touch tips, boys. What do you guys got to do today? What's your problem? That's what you do. You touch tips. I don't even know. Touch tips and explode on that board, baby. Let's go. Come on, man. I don't even know what I'm talking about. Doc those things. Here we go. We are about to. We're about to take a trip on a boat into super good football analysis. Where are we at? Mike, we good with Mike? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so third and 15, we talked a bunch about this defense and how they do a lot with two shells, you know, play it back. forward rushers. Once you get in third and 15 and he's long down in distances, now a coach like Mike McDonald can just dial it up and do whatever you want. So now you have a different look here. You got Eamon Ward down here on the edge. You got Jovan Press. Split safety look. And then their best blitzer. Probably the best blitzing DB when it comes to a true nickel slot with Devin Witherspoon. Young dynamic corner coming from the slot. Times this up perfectly. AJ mentioned it earlier. With the speed that he hits the line of scrimmage with. There's no way that these offensive tackles or offensive guards are going to be able to move their feet and stay in his way. And this is a skill that you kind of just almost have to be born with as a DB. Yeah, the timing is so important, AJ, because they get locked up on their guys, right? I got one or outside guy, two or who becomes, and he just kind of gets to the gym. Maybe this offensive line isn't as ass as everybody's saying. Maybe it's just scheme and problems attacking what they know their week is. It's plays, but it's also players because you can dial this up for a lot of players and there's no way they get through that traffic. Over the years, over the history of the game, I can think of like Charles Woodson or like the Honey Badgers. Some of these players just have a natural, like they're football players, and they have a feel for how they hit it, when they hit it. Because pre-snap, Drake made a give. Yep, pause it here. A give, a tell for a slot blitzing defender is the safety behind him. You have that safety behind him because once he leaves, typically this guy or a guy from the inside is going to take his responsibility. You see that, AJ? So right now you've got a top. Why would they be stacked on top of each other, Drake? That's what he's going to learn going forward, right? That's right. But also for the offense, do you want to? Is there not some sort of, hey, I'm just going to, instead of running a vertical 20 yards downfield because you're never going to see me yet, is there not just some like check to, you know, a hot route, hot route, Bradley Cooper, Wedding Crashers, just run a hitch? It definitely could be. If you pause it, though, offensively, and this will be a better question, I'm sure, for AQ, who can really break it down. He's going to be so pissed. Offensively, we got six rushers. Now, run it back to the very beginning, please. So, Ernest Jones, he's showing. You got Emile Ward showing. He's going to drop out, though. So, I don't know where they slid, how they counted. He's going to drop out, and the added rushers is going to come from the United in the screen right now because I perfectly times it up. But numbers-wise, you still have six on six. You got five offensive linemen with the back, and you got six rushes. So on paper, and even Henry's getting a chip in this. So on paper, you should have enough to pick this up. He likes him to go. Goes to help him, I think, because, yeah. And a big whiffle. You got a six-man protection plus the tight end chip, and AQ will clean us up, I'm sure. But, yeah, I mean, that's just a great feel for it. Great job timing it up, and a great call, and a long down addition for Mike McDonald. So what are we saying? We're saying, hey, the guy's coming. Let's just know that. That's Monday morning quarterbacking right now? That's Monday morning quarterbacking. Fixing it up, having the protection. I'm sure in the O-line, in the trenches, in their room, they're really talking about how do we get on the same page picking this up, especially against this defense. I'm sure they saw this on tape. It's some type of variation. Maybe it was Iman Worry. Maybe it was Love, whoever it was. And that's the other thing about Seattle. They have so many different defensive backs and defensive players that can do different things at a high level. Great tacklers, too. I thought Drake was going to get away a lot more than he did whenever there was some pressure. He was getting tackled a lot. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might know a little bit more about what the big boys were doing on this particular MA. Ladies and gentlemen, our host in the trenches, A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. A.Q. What the hell is going on out here? What do you know that Witherspoon is coming? Do you think that's a problem? What about Moses? Does he see him? This is Monday morning quarterbacking, obviously, in the moment. It's much harder than what we have right now from the sky camera. We're not talking to anybody. But what happens in this situation? Should he be calling that dad out? Should the center be calling that out? How does this kind of normally operate when they fix this? Yeah, so the interesting thing is, as they have all the guys up, they can bring four to the left, they can bring four to the right. Have no idea. With the center going right, you are in a short protection. So you've got center guard tackle for three for most dangerous four. You should go inside out. So Moses actually should have stopped on the DB. So as the DB comes, he should have stopped there. I think he tried to, just missed him as he makes an inside move, just like he made Will Campbell look silly on the other side on an earlier play. But we always tell the running back, the running back has coast to coast, so he starts left thinking that that is his guy. Well, he has to stay there because that guy comes, so he can't come across for the other guy, which then leaves. It should be the outside most guy on the quarterback, should be able to throw hot. But Moses misses the DB coming inside. And as he comes inside, he misses him. So that guy comes free. But May should be hot off the outside guy. This is hot right here, yeah. That's hot. That's who you've got to get it to right now. And you've got to know that. If they bring four to the right or four to the left, then you've got to get rid of that ball fast. And that's on Drake May. Okay, so this is a great scheme, too, because they keep running back this way, right? This is a McDonald's special, damn near? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is one of those things because he's shown that look a million times and only brought four, right, DB? Like, at the end of the day, he has that same look where he shows seven, brings four, brings five, brings six, or can bring seven, and ultimately that's cover zero. All right, is the next one with offensive line? The next one is as well, yep. Hey, Ken, will you hang around here? You've got all the time in the world, boys. Come on, let's go. Hey, what are you doing here, really? Aggressive comment, I would say. Poking a bear. Wait, what did he do? Aggressive comment. Oh, yeah, he did. What did he do? What did he do? I start training the boys tomorrow. I got a couple guys in the shipyard tomorrow, but today, I got nothing but time for you guys. Okay. Nothing but time. Thor called him a fatso. Yeah. What did he call Thor? Well, he got a fucking pussy. What are we doing? Line up the handle. I would love to line up and do O-line drills and show them what leverage all of us. Okay. What if he goes like this? What if he's your skull? He crushes your skull. I do appreciate that. Then I would have turned into a UFC fighter. I learned from Justin Gates, you just kicked the perennial nerve. Okay. All right. I do appreciate that you got offended by Martin calling you a fatso. I do appreciate that. I thought he was. I didn't beat the earlier part, by the way. He called AJ 450 pounds, so that at least makes me feel a little bit better. Yeah, exactly. I think he was just cracking jokes. He speaks a different language. Yeah. He speaks a different language. Look at you. Yeah. He's just trying to talk shit beat with the boys. That's right. Thor, I would like to let you know, AJ is offended by you calling him a fatso. Yeah, he is. And also, Thor AQ knows that we will hold that over his head for the rest of his life. That the Martin, the world's strongest man, said, I can't believe that guy. You got this big something? Yeah, right. That's awesome. We appreciate you, Thor. He does not know. He wants to fight you, Thor. Let's go to. No. Whoa, whoa. Weird on. Do you, AQ? I don't know. I mean, he didn't say no. I thought we'd move on. We move on. Hey, that's where the short arms might really come into play. Hell yeah. Sorry. I'll tell you what. We were watching short arms. Nope. Yes, we were. Nope. Nope. Torn MCL. He had a torn MCL. It's on IR. He's 22 years old. His first year he's going up against the greatest scheme in the history of football. We're not making excuses. We're not doing that. They had a torn MCL. How are you supposed to hit? Hit? Has someone else been playing in? He's a football player. Maybe we throw a 6-0 lineman in, Tony. That's not a bad idea. Well, it's true. Maybe a little assistance. Maybe there's some big bodies out there. Certainly you've helped. Torn MCL is going to be tough to hit. Hit. That's going to be tough to do. That's going to be tough to do. Honestly, I think we just found out through the conversation with Jack Collinsworth that it was officially a torn MCL. Because remember, he had the towel over his head when the whole thing happened. I thought his whole knee exploded when it first happened, like it was torn everything. It was just MCL. But, I mean, yeah, to D-Bus' point, you don't make excuses. But, yeah, it is going to be pretty damn hard to, as AQ would say, re-anchor yourself when you're getting bull rushed over and over again. But, you know, that's Monday morning offensive line coach. Yes, it is. And now let's do a little more Monday morning defense coordinator with DB. What's next? So the last one was the six-man pressure on third and long. An obvious pass situation. You run it back again. This is when they like to bring their pressures. Obvious passing situation. Now, this is the scoring time. It's 22-7, 437 on the clock in the fourth quarter. First and 10. So, DB, you're playing with a ton of depth. And once again, Devin Witherspoon with a great disguise, great timing, hitting his rush. It's boom. Let it run. Let it run a little bit. Pause it here. So now you're bringing the pressure. And once again, you're getting a free hitter. Looks like the running back is releasing through the line of scrimmage right past the blitzer. First and 10. Witherspoon not only gets the, it looked like a forced fumble, forced fumble recovery. I think they call it an interception. Pitch six. Just an unbelievable play. Started Witherspoon. Ended with a woosoo. A woosoo. A woosoo. A woosoo. Incredible play there. Is this thing in 1080p? Yeah, I know. 320. I couldn't see. Incredible job right now. Much clearer picture with the way you're describing it than what I was saying there. I was, that's a phenomenal, I mean, incredible breakdown of what we need to see. I don't know if anybody can see it. It looks incredible on TV. Let me see it from the replay. Yeah, I think it looks incredible. Hey, these guys are unstoppable. So this is going to be forever now with the Seahawks? Yeah, the Seahawks, this is what they do. This is what Mike McDonough does. And once again, AQ, from that last replay, you can see how, however, he gets home free. But you'll see numbers-wise, these guys, once again, dropper coming from the opposite side. And again, you get a free hitter with his pull. They're so good. Yeah. AQ, what are you thinking here? Hey, yeah, so can we go to that? Can we stop it from the other angle, from the offenses behind? Can we bring it back to that? Yeah, certainly. Right there. Perfect. What's Mike on what he's doing? So, this is what I don't understand. And, again, this is a young quarterback. He's a rookie. He's his first year really starting full. So it's his second year, obviously. But first year getting a full season, right? So he will learn. You've got to switch this protection. So if we can rewind this just a little bit more. So the guy basically over top of the tight end. DB, can you point to him? The guy off the ball. Oh, no, no. A little bit further off the ball. Over top of the back, essentially. Yeah, that guy. There you go. So that's the Sam linebacker. It's a two-by-two formation. Strong side! Two-by-two over the tight end. So you've got the Sam. Now you've got Mike and Will. Okay, so we always say find the middle of the three. So the middle of the three is over Morgan Moses, right tackle, right there. So he should redirect this protection, send the center right. They would be two for two on the nose guard to the mic, and then the back would pick up the DB. You're picked up. You got all the time. He sends the center left. So now you get two free off the left side like that. The back can only handle one. But as he saw it, the threat is the two most dangerous were to the right, Send the center right. Now the guard ends up on one of those two in the back as the other and you're picked up. New York, New York, New York is what he would say there before the play call. That is what he would say? 100% Tom Brady, a quarterback right there, is switching that protection. He's thinking two most dangerous are going to be coming from the right right there. If they don't, we're still picked up, and I can throw hot if they bring from the left. And he's looking for that, too. He's waiting for me. The guard doesn't even block anybody, AQ. That's what they do. They get it to where they take advantage of it. The guard ends up not really doing it. Because they're sending the whole line, so he's got to go with Leonard Williams. So that's a four for five sliding the line, bringing on Wenu with Bradbury all the way over to the left. But if they send the center right there, now you're two for two, center to the Mike linebacker, and then the back can sit on the Will, who's the DB, coming. And then, bam, all of a sudden you're picked up. There it is. That's Monday morning offensive line. That's right. We appreciate that, AQ. Thank you for joining us, man. Happy, well, I don't really know, actually, man. Happy Olympics. Boys, I got you on the big screen. Whoa. Thank you. Thank you. You look pretty good there. Good lighting there. I think you did a good job. Don't you think? I just saw you on the big screen down there, lower corner. I mean, I feel like Schefter over here. Schefter was a little shaky up there in L.A., a little shaky. Come on, you scolders. What do you think? You've been walking through the airport all day. He's carrying his bags. He's holding his bone. He's got a lot going on. You're saying you want to showcase that you have a nice sturdy forearm and tricep that you can lock in. Is that what you're saying? Coming off Super Bowl week, tough journey out there, then straight into waste management. I'm a little shaky too, boys. Hey, a lot of journeys out there in San Francisco. Some signing up for more journeys. Some, it appears, retiring journeys for the rest of their lives, hanging up their journey jerseys for the rest of their lives. They've had a good time. Waste management seemed like a blast until you guys were yelling in people's backswings in extra holes. Wayne's flying over. Yeah, so what's going on? That was tough. The little shadow over Hideki's putt and then yelling in the backswing. We certainly want an American to win, clearly. We want an American to win. I don't like that that happened, though, because I'll tell you what. I like whenever people are able to have a good time and it be considered good. You know, this stuff, I think they're reviewing it as a negative to golf, where I think waste management is a good for golf. So, you know, there's little things that I think people, just like whenever we're watching Live and they're playing music around the green, it's like, they got golf figured out. Probably shouldn't have a bunch of music just jamming as they're trying to drain a six-inch putt. It kind of takes away the tension that's potentially happening. The immediate sound, and it sounded like it was metal, like somebody dropped something metal-wise. They said some worker who was working at the event dropped like a chair or something. Yeah, and it was in the back swing, middle of back swing. It's like, that is what, the worst. The playoff hole. Yeah, in the playoff hole for a thing. That's like worst case scenario, I think, whenever it comes to like coot stuff. So, you know, I like waste management. I haven't even had a chance to really go with it. No. But I'm a big fan of what it is. So I was like you guys to keep it over there, though. So let's not, you know, let's not be. He would have been the champion. Yeah. What a putt by Goddard up, though. I mean, what a putt. It was unbelievable. He showed out. Yes, he certainly did. Was there a time when Scotty was going to go or no? Yeah, yeah. He hit a run. Oh, good for you guys. He got to, what, 14 or 15? 15. Yeah, AJ texted me. He goes, Scotty's going to win this thing. And what you say. Yeah, right, brother. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We got a shadow gimmick we're going to do. We got a whole thing. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, AQ. You're the man. You guys are the best. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. He was not happy with Thor. No, he wasn't. All right, one more. One more for A.J. Okay. A.J. could probably help me with this was the A.J. Barner touchdown. Tough, tough spot to be in as a linebacker. So, right here, pause it. Down a distance situation is always important when it comes to play calling. Right now you're up 12-0 if you're Seattle Seahawks coming into the situation. So now defensively you're probably thinking run the ball, try to continue eating up clock, a little under 14 minutes left in the game. So first and 10, 12 personnel, you're thinking run. You let it play here. Watch all this communication that has to take place with these three players. And now pause it. All these players in here, they have run responsibilities as well. This safety, now he's on the tight end. He has a run responsibility, a run gap. This linebacker, he's also on the tight end, Barnard. He has a run gap. So if you have a good play-action fake, you always talk about this element with quarterbacks too, especially quarterbacks that play a ton of under center and play-action pass, the Aaron Rodgers, the Tom Brady's. When they have that action that can hide the ball, do all the good things, and it marries up with the pass game, in the run game, it's a great weapon to get guys wide open, especially in this part of the field. So right here, boom, eyes are just in the wrong place. But I've been in that spot my second year, actually. It was a specific play, Monday night football. I believe the title was Keller against the Jets. They got me benched. Third and one, goal line situation, eyes in the backfield, play action, right over the head. You're the last person in the building to know what's coming. Let's see it from this back end. AJ, I know you've been in this situation a ton. Oh, yeah. See, they set this up. I think I sent it into the group chat. Somebody put them together where they showed this same kind of look and this motion. They ran outside zone, I don't know, two, three, four times before this in the game just setting this up because it's true. Look at it. If you're that outside backer, it happened on the fly. You didn't get a good look pre-snap. It happens where all of a sudden they're putting the run fake directly in your face, and then you have this guy run the seven to the corner of the end zone. It just puts you in peril because you can't really play the run as physical as you'd like, and you have to play the pass here because this is what happens. It's just a beautiful play call, and they set it up throughout the game. But they also set it up because they were successful running the ball. If they would run the ball like garbage all night, maybe you get a better read, and you see this, and you don't let this play happen. Kovac and Fernando are going to be awesome. Yeah. Kovac might be the real, like, for real. Yeah. You're talking about him setting it up and doing all this stuff. A lot of similar things to Ben. Sorry, go ahead. No, that one motion running back, just look how many people 51 just has to communicate with. Right now he's on the safety. He's a linebacker. Now he's talking to his safety. And right now he's saying, hey, in and out with this linebacker. And he actually ends up doing the in and out with the safety over there. So as a nickel, I've been in this situation a ton. So right now the in and out is now he's on the back. He's on the tight end. With this in and out, you're going to be on the outermost tight end. So right now, they both have to. You've got to respect and honor the run fake, especially when the running back is not Kenny Walker in this situation, but the back, they've been gassing you, especially in those outside zones. You've got to honor the run fake, the run pass, and the honest play pass, and then you dial up wide open wide receivers, the tight ends in this situation. Hey, thank you, Monday morning. Thank you, bud. I appreciate you. We have a top five coming out of the Super Bowl as well that we need to hit. You know, AJ, we've been doing this every single Monday all season. Have to do it for Super Overreaction Monday, although we felt like the game was probably going to take, you know, both hours of conversation. We at least have our top five headlines coming out of Super Bowl. AJ, number five. Super special, special teams. Myers and Dixon pitch perfect game. Nothing really else needs to be said. Both historic in their own ways. Both historic in their own jobs. in both a necessity to the Seahawks winning a Super Bowl. AJ, your thoughts? Yeah, I'd say if you did not think that special teams, especially the punt, is a gigantic piece of football, you saw that last night obviously being perfect on field goals, but the punt's just absolutely hamstring that Patriots offense. They had such a long field all night long. Jason Myers becomes first player in the history of ball to go more than 200 points in the season, including the playoffs. Shout out to him. He might be on pace to maybe pass Vinny in about 15 years. He never misses this guy. But once again, he's in Seattle, so nobody really talks about him. And then Dixon being able to do what he did, he becomes the only punter this century to have two punts pinned inside the five in the Super Bowl or whatever. Huge, absolutely huge game for both of them. Let's go to number four. The Stein Rose today, Drake May. It's not over. He's 23 years old. He did look like ass. That Seahawks defense did that to a lot of quarterbacks. I think he learns from this and moves forward. Connor, your thoughts on the sun coming up today? Yeah, no doubt about it. Using his fuel, I think, is what his message was to the rest of the team in the locker room last night. With Mike Rabel there as well, I think they'll be just fine. Yeah, and let's also remember, number three headline, AJ, he's a rookie and he had torn MCL. Hey, Wilkins was supposed to be anchoring. He's 22 years old. He had torn MCL. He was in the Super Bowl. He was getting bodied a little bit. I think it's going to fuel him if anything we know about him is actual. Seems to be a dog. I'm excited for him this offseason. Yeah, and people are very matter-of-factly saying they're moving them inside. Let's give them offseason, maybe lift some weights, get a little stronger here, and then we'll see what happens. Number two headline, dark side domination. Is the next dynasty actually up in Seattle, AJ? Were we wrong about the coast? I mean, I think it's definitely possible. I know Sheffy said they have some decisions they have to make. If they can keep this core intact, there's no reason why this Seattle Seahawks team can't be great for the next five, eight years. Incredible players, but McDonald will be able to find those for his system, you think? Yeah, absolutely. Young players, I'm sure they'll pay the right ones, but the most important hiring is going to be the next O.C. And John Schneider won with the offense with Russell Wilson as opposed to Legion of Boom. What do they do this time with a defensive head coach whenever they have to make those decisions? We shall see. And number one, Donald and McDonald, a match made by the football gods. Congratulations to them both. Changing narratives so quickly overnight about themselves. Sam Donald, hey, Super Bowl champion. That's right. Mike McDonald Super Bowl champion Congratulations boys You can win the biggest game on earth You can win the Super Bowl You're both certified Seahawks are legit We can't thank football enough for what it did for us this season We're so incredibly lucky and thankful that we get to do this for a living It only happens because all of you Watch The season wraps up here On this glorious overreaction Monday We'll be taking a couple weeks off okay when we come back NFL Combine USA Baseball Players Championship Draft Then football again We going to try and enjoy it all We so lucky that this is what our lives are I think San Francisco proved that even more, and this past season has been majestic. You all are the greatest people on earth. Thank you so much for letting us live this life. We'll see you in a couple weeks. Goodbye. Okay. Okay, happy for them. Nailed it. Happy. That was a good handoff. I was. Great handoff. Great handoff. Goodbye. Yes, four seconds. Who'd we hand to? SportsCenter. And they're doing the handoff. They're depressing. Yeah, they're going to hand it off. So I think it was a good one. We should have hammered that one more time. I think we should have known about it. Would that have taken anything? How could you? Well, no, I mean, like, is this something the networks do every year? They're like, let's hand it off to whoever gets the next Super Bowl. I think it's the first time. Okay, yeah, probably because it's stupid. No, it's not. There's no way to announce that ESPN's got this Super Bowl. Yeah, no doubt. To your point, though. I can't remember. It might have been Friday after the show. We were in the elevator going to go to the lobby to get ready to go to the airport. And someone was like, you know, someone who works at ESPN, I can't remember who it was. They're like, you know, you guys leaving? We were like, yeah, you know, we're done for the week. It's great. Like, what are you doing? And he's like, oh, I've got to stick around through the game on Sunday and then fly to L.A. afterwards. Like, you could tell it was, I mean, they were ready to get the hell out of there. And his work week was pretty much just starting. So, I mean, it's one of those things where, yeah, it would have been nice to be there to maybe either give the handoff or receive the handoff. I think we're enough people watching after the game, you know. Like that's the thought of it. I like the thought of doing it here today. You know, like the entire thing today. That makes sense. And also, Tariko goes immediately to Olympic coverage, so maybe the only coverage of ball, I guess, was Boomer on the field with his best electric. and then sending it over to SoFi after. I don't know. You know, hey, it's on ESPN this year. That's right. That's the thing. Next year, the Super Bowl is on ESPN. It's a huge deal down there in Los Angeles. Massive deal. I don't think we knew the Super Bowl was on NBC until week eight, maybe. I feel like it was something at least I forgot constantly. Now, because of this handoff gimmick, I will know that the Super Bowl was on NBC. Boom, boom, so it worked. Yeah, it was on NBC until we had Tariqo on. What's that? It was on NBC until we had Tariqo on last week or two. I will say, I also potentially got a heads up and immediately was like, oh, we should probably talk to Mike if he's calling the Super Bowl. And then the next day he was like on. So pretty recent for me as well because it is a big deal. Super Bowl, who knows what these numbers are going to be. And this had the least amount of stars outside of the football world. Least amount of buzz, I think, outside the football world. The only real conversation outside of football was Bad Bunny. This guy speaking not our language. What? Fuck that. Telling me. Me. I watched football all year. Telling me I need to download Duo fucking Lingo. Okay. To enjoy it. That was the conversation. Yeah. Outside of the Super Bowl. It wasn't like a 23-year-old quarterback, Drake May, back with the New England Patriots and Mike Frabel back at the team that he won a Super Bowl with. Caught some touchdowns. Made a lot of tackles with. Recharging an entire fan base. Mike McDonald. Very unique character who also is a defensive head coach. who seemingly a mastermind, Sam Darnold revenge. Instead, you heard people from New York be like, Sam Darnold? Guy's not good at football. No, he is good at football. It's like, no. I grew up in Jersey. He sucks. I know this guy stinks of football. I don't follow football much, but I know Sam Darnold ass at football. That is what I know. It's like, no, he's in a Super Bowl. And I went, okay. It's like people outside of ball were struggling to find things to latch on to. Now, I assume, because it is the Super Bowl, all those people that were struggling to latch on still turn on the game. So I assume the number will still be gigantic. And now, what was the stay rate? What was the stay rate? Probably not great. Yeah, I assume there was a lot of, oh, okay. And they were saying the game was over like in the end of the second quarter if you went up 12-0. That doesn't help, I guess. I'll tell you, they hit another field goal and make this thing less than a two-score game. It's over. 70% of the games this year were comebacks or something like that. I think that's what Roger Goodell said at his press conference, because he was asked about some sort of something. And I think it was like 70% of the games had comebacks this year, blah, blah, blah. We had this amount of one-score games, everything like that. Second quarter, with the way this is looking. I'll tell you, they score another safety. They get two more points here. They turn a single 11-zip. That's about all she wrote. I mean, this thing's about all. which is how it felt with the Seattle Seahawks, which I think was a compliment to the Seahawks defense. And it ended up being pretty real, although Drake won for 235 in the fourth. And the 12-0, like I mentioned earlier at the beginning, 12-0 felt worse than 28-3 against the Falcons. But I think the reason I, in particular, I'm the only one in here really, that doesn't like Collinsworth, the reason is we have guys like Greg Olson and J.J. Watt, who are just number two boosts, that should be in primetime. That is my big gripe. And then when, you know, you get a stinker like that on there and you get a lot of, uh, I got nothing. It's like, okay, well, that's just not what you're there for. I think CC knows that Conor has been, I assume Patriots fans as a whole. I don't think it's, sure, I did see some people who are Patriots fans like, Chris Collinsworth hates the Patriots. I don't think that's the truth. Like, you mentioned all the time with Joe Buck. If you call a bunch of big moments, especially with the Patriots, That being his sixth Super Bowl. I don't know how many times he called the Patriots Super Bowl. I'm assuming, what, that was four? Three? Four? I don't know. The calling game is hard to make people like it because what some people like, obviously other people don't involve touching so many different people. It's an interesting dynamic there. Kid Rock really brought it. He did. Woo! Kid and Bob. Kid and Bob. Yeah, yeah. Robert. He did. Bob? Yeah. I didn't see a whole lot. What's that? I didn't see a whole lot. What did he do? Was it like a Chris Gaines situation? Garth Brooks? What do you mean? Well, there was a string duo. I don't know. So, Bad Bunny, San Benito wraps up. And then all of a sudden it's like, all right, what's going on right here? It's actually perfect timing. It was exact timing for ball with the ball. It went straight to ball with the ball. I don't know if he was singing. You go from one to two. The mic was on. San Benito was singing. No, no, no. Kid Rock was. That's what I heard. Hey, he was definitely singing. He was. Yeah, they always sing live. I'm not sure. Kid Rock was. I'm betting Bad Bunny would sing. I think Bad Bunny sang. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I think the guy that was on the, I think he played. That was awesome. So that's the first time, I think, because normally Super Bowl shit, nobody plays. Right. Feels like Bad Bunny said, I would like to sing. And they also, it felt like they. Eddie Gaga. Yeah. I'd be wrong. Ricky Martin was definitely singing. Because Super Bowl halftime shows, normally, all lip sync, not allowed to do anything. Hey, this is how much we're paying. You're not allowed to. Because it's time to the exact second. Like, everything is time perfect. Boom. Feels like Bad Bunny was like, nah. And he went through the table. We're doing this. Yeah, and fell off the thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, into the living room. Yeah, that was. Yeah, there's a lot of show. I mean, showman. This fucking guy. I don't know what he. I wish I knew what he was saying. But it was an incredible show. And as soon as he wraps up, they get a commercial. All of a sudden, ball with the ball, the bang, the dang, diggy, diggy. He said, the bogey set up, jump, the bogey, and then full on. I don't know what. He must have. He had a wrist. He had a wrist. Yeah, was he hurt? Or was that for fashion? Didn't slow him down. We had four mic flips. Yeah. about 30 seconds. Unbelievable. And every time he looked at it, it was like, yeah, you got it. Still got it. Then he, yeah. So I didn't see the whole thing, but I would say this. Bad Bunny seemingly went out there and did what he wanted to do. You know? Yeah. This is all my shit. Yeah. And I appreciate that. And the Easter eggs in there were really cool. Like, I guess, no one, he took that shot from the lady at the bar. I guess that lady who was standing behind the bar owns a very famous restaurant in New York for like the last 40 years, and she's from Puerto Rico. The kid that he gave the Grammy to, I guess, was in a situation where he was detained. How about the – no, I don't think so. The people out front of the shed, there was an entire shed thing. I did see that. Oh, Pedro? It wasn't. Pedro Alba. Yeah, the baseball player Acuna. That guy's fountain blue guy, obviously Cardi B. Pedro Pascal. Jessica Alba. Yes. Fascinating. You know, all the different Because why not? What did you say? What did you just say? A lot of good dancing There was a lot of good dancing A lot of dancing It feels like there was a lot of dancing Kid Rock Kid Rock immediately after this debuted a remix to a Cody Johnson song I believe it's going to be available soon Telling people they can accept Jesus Christ Boom Both parties got accomplished What they wanted to get accomplished Positive night. And both parties got slaughtered for it. Yeah, it did feel like that. Yeah. It did feel like that. That's politics football. And I say, man, it'd be really cool to understand Spanish right now. You fucking piece of shit. You watched it. Move to Mexico then, damn it. Then the other side of it. You don't fucking know Spanish. You fucking stupid piece of shit. What, you never been to Mexico? Watch, stop being a racist, you fucking prick. Learn Spanish. It's like, muchas gracias, mi amigo. I'm trying. Okay. I'm fucking hate. Okay. My brain ain't set up for it. Fucking trying. Learn Spanish. Fucking asshole. Know who also crushed it? What, dude? I'm trying. And then the other side, hating that I'm even watching. I'm like, what is your problem? What are we doing here? Can we not? Hell of a show. It was spectacle. And I feel like that's what the Super Bowl halftime should be. Like, they made a big deal when The Weeknd did it a couple years ago. and, like, the gimmicks he did, it was like, this kind of sucks. Like, I get it, but, like, it isn't. Like, say what you want. I agree. I didn't understand a single word he said, but, like, that was a spectacle that was in line with what the Super Bowl is. And how about the show not ending weirdly? Normally, the show ends weirdly, and there's lights out, and then they go, that was the halftime show. This one was them walking off with a banger playing. That was a cool way that it ended. That was a cool way. I thought it was really. Security guard got a real face in the camera at the end here. Yeah. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. So you know what? Fuck it. I want a French speaking next year. Let's go. Let's just learn them all. Okay. That's not a bad idea. Let's just learn all languages. I tried high school. Yeah. Oh, shit. We're coming. We're leaving. Yep. How many million? All of them. Okay. Let me get out of the way. Shoulder pads on. Maybe he's going to hit somebody. Somebody send this to Jamar Chase. Yeah. You're right. Because shoulder pads and full pads. might be in fashion ones. Exactly. And we wanted him to be ahead of the game. Yeah. Imagine clacking down the runway. That'd be awesome. Clackety-clackety-clack. The best. Click, clack, click, clack. Maybe Under Armour. Yeah. AJ could voice it over, maybe. Oh, my God. Now we're talking. Is Under Armour doing this? Let me know. Oh, yeah. Are they? Big time. I don't know. Who's that? I don't see a lot of them. Oh, it's JJ. Justin Jefferson's doing a guy, right? Is he? Justin Jefferson? They got rid of what? Steph, right? Yeah. Yeah, Steph. Harder ways. Is the Rock still doing his stuff with him? I believe so. Still has him all in Dick's Sporting Goods, yeah, the whole section. Not that. Bad Bunny did have, you guys talked about it, his ball security was the first thing I noticed. I said, all right, catch the detail. He talked to somebody. It was high and tight. How about the spike? Yeah, spike was much better, too. I was hoping it wasn't like a gothling situation like the video I saw. What are you talking about? I'm going to let you guys know, that gothling situation, not good. He's a corner. Not good at all. I understand he's great on the Titans. Quick Rich Cannon. He's Canadian. That's kind of what I, you know. He grabbed Bob Middle of football first. He did. He grabbed Bob Middle of the laces. He's just like, okay. But you see how far he threw it? Fucking hummed it. Yeah, and then he was in boots. He dragged his foot kind of weird. Check this out, bitch. Watch how far this dumb bitch goes. Oh, wow. Still going. That's only the second time I've seen that. That is bad. No, it's good because he actually leads. I'll watch it again. I don't think it was good. It's going to run again here. Yeah, automatic. I love Gosselin, too. This is tough. Hail Mary, baby. The movie's going to be awesome. Hail Mary, baby. Oh, man. Five-time conference player of the week. At DB. Yeah, exactly. At DB. Bust his butt for you. He's not supposed to be quarterback. They need to put him outside. And they benched his ass, too, if you remember. He was getting beat like he stole stuff. Oh, my God. Yeah, and then what happened? What do you think? I mean, every time I see it, I see just a different thing. Yep. Watch again. It's all right. He was getting beat like his double-zum. Bruce actually used that in a text this morning with Hembo. Hembo gave Will Campbell's entire stats to us that he sent over into the group. It was like this amount of pressures, this amount of blah, blah, blah. He gave up two interceptions. He also did this with a fumble. And Bruce goes, yeah, he was getting beat like he stole something. He didn't throw two picks. And Hembo follows up with like, well, actually, the person that causes the pressure that leads to the interception, we account for also in our stats or whatever. Will Campbell, the problem, basically is what he said this morning. Is that not right, Bruce? Yeah, and also, like, we were watching on NFL Pro, the actual interception sack where it was Witherspoon coming off the other edge. So while Will Campbell, like, sort of does give up a pressure, it wasn't his pressure that, you know, caused that exact interception. Kind of, you know, one of the worst. Run the play. No one does it. I mean, Drake Mays backing up to the left. So, like, sure, if you're going to where the guy is going to be, like, you can stay. That's the fucking problem right there. No, no, no. That's the problem with that. Not just play the love, but what we just talked about. That's fucking ridiculous. If you just went through the whole protection, if it's on the center or the quarterback, it might, shit, the coach as well. You've got to have your young quarterback ready to have. So that's Will Campbell. So you move. This is crazy. He has to move. He didn't hit him. This guy didn't hit him. Listen, the stats people say, get him out of there. He had no way to go. You're a left tackle. That's what the stats people are saying. Yeah, it was awesome. You should have seen Bruce. The follow-up text from Bruce to Hembo going, it was getting beat like he stole his own. He didn't throw two pits. Like, what are we doing here? We've got to get to the bottom of pressures, and we've got to figure out EPA, like, a better way to, you know, almost contextualize it. Yeah, DBOA. I'm out on all of them All of them? Every acronym Every acronym CPOA, DVOA, EPA You know what they mean? What do they all mean? EPA, that's Environmental Protection Agency Bingo Yeah, that's true That's how your offensive line does every single year DVOA, that's where you get your license Yes Yeah Right? Always on line, yeah Always on line Not efficient at all So you don't want to be good at that one, I don't think No Actually, the one down here I went there last week. It was very efficient. Yeah, very good, actually. I would say congratulations. Number one branch in the state. I was just there as well. I legit do not doubt it. No. They got a fleet. Now, they don't have questions they shouldn't have been asking, but. Yeah. I had to take that driver's test like five times to get my Indiana license. Stuffed ass. Fucking sucked. Like a written test? Like the one on the screen. Multiple choice. Yeah, what are they asking you to just get another license? How many feet before a red light are you starting to hit your bro? Yeah, what's this sign mean that I've never seen? I haven't registered my car in three years and they have questions. How many feet are you two-stopped behind? Any stop sign? It's like three feet, six feet, one foot, ten feet. It's like, ooh. What? Interesting. I don't know. They pull up that fucking thing. I've been doing it for 20 fucking years. I'm on whatever it takes not to get into an accident. S-G-O-P? Where's that off? I don't know. How many drinks? No. Well, how many beers have I had? Can't do that now. What, I've had three or four beers and gum behind the wheel? No, I'm just kidding. That's one of my favorite parts. Especially with Uber and... Waymo. Waymo is crazy. Waymo. Waymo is crazy. I don't think they have them here. Nope. They can't have them here. One of these fucking hicks runs into one of those things. That car's getting torn off. One of these bottles would take out all of them. Yeah, you're right. I didn't even think about them. to do bang in the snow and then the next one bang and then that's actually at the end of uh that one show where they all the tesla oh yeah start crashing into each other the movie it came out yes it was on apple was it don't look up no it's not netflix produced by the obamas i can't remember what the name of it was though because the obamas president obama and michelle obama because they produced it, we all thought to ourselves, they know so. Yeah, well, they know. And then the Teslas were all just kind of rolling by. You remember this, AJ? Do you remember this thing? Yeah, I didn't see the movie. I remember hearing all the hubbub. Leave the world behind? Leave the world behind. Yeah, that one freaked me out a little bit. Was it good? Yeah, I mean, it got me. It wasn't bad. I watched it for a little bit. It was good. But it was kind of trippy on what they can do. You would assume somebody could do if they wanted to, just like we learned with the fucking cameras. Exactly. How about that, AJ? I mean, that's scary Yeah I mean, is it Yeah, I don't know Is it worth saving one or two dogs No To spy on everybody Eight dogs a day To spy on the whole planet Like, is that Is it worth your privacy? Eight dogs a day, AJ I don't know Is it worth stopping the Joker To save Gotham City, AJ? I don't know That's right I'm sorry, I don't know Is that Heath Ledger? That was a crazy guess That was a crazy Rest in peace That was a crazy ad Yeah. Like that angle. Because the amount of people that had to approve that. And I would like to say to the ad agencies, let's pick it up, okay? You bums. Yeah. Okay? You're a part of the fucking thing. Have a brain, okay? You guys just cover your ass so much all year you don't even know that people are expecting you to be good at your gigs whenever it comes to the Super Bowl of commercials. Let's go. Let's go ahead and do this thing. Let's make sure we are adding entertainment value and not just wasting a check from a company that doesn't know that we don't know what the fuck we're doing. And we needed them last night. We did, because the game was asking. And what did we get? Oh, you got a spine on our dogs. Exactly. That's crazy. There wasn't one person at that table like, you think people are going to have a fucking problem with this? Or no? No, we're saving dogs. Shut the fuck up. Put a gold retriever up there. They love gold retriever. People love dogs. I'm surprised. Aren't we all? Yeah. Oh, wow. And What wasn't wasn't in one of those? Yeah, Peter wasn't. Oh, wow. That would be the Oh, yeah. That would be the dog. But I saw Peter on my TV last night. It was getting broken. What if it was a part of the ring were watching you? I mean, if it was Every step in time Yeah, with Ben. The original. Yeah, exactly. Missy. Yes, the original. Of course, yes. So creepy, though. It's kind of weird. Where's that guy at? Is he out of jail? Yeah, which version of the song was that? Sting. Oh. Yeah, Sting. Come on, dude. It was great. He was in a course for like 12 hours at a time, he says. What's that? You know that about Sting? That's his thing. He can, you know. I heard that. Sting's thing. He can, you know, go at it for 8, 9, 10, 12 hours. Patrick. You know that about Sting? You said to me. You do. It's a thing. It's been Sting for a long time I don't know I did not know that I did not Believe it or not I genuinely did not know that What the fuck did Everyone knows that You know Sting talks Seven hour tantric sex With Trudy Starler One person One woman It's his wife That Sting I think he's talking In the interview Of this person Or is it he In ours I did tantric sex He's a spiritual act Oh he's finding DMT in there Oh Nice Six hours in there He's on his own journey He's been gone twice Good luck Was there any good commercials? Did you like any of them? Budweiser had a good one, I think. It was all right. Yeah, he was good. Budweiser. Yeah. I thought Duncan was good. The throwback with all the characters from Friends, maybe. I don't know what it was. I liked that. Yeah, that was good. That Duncan, good. That Goodwill Duncan. Duncan was good. The Bud Light one was, you know. Shane picking them? Yeah. Good. Good post. Good. Yeah. Good. Cool. Whenever you see up there, you're like, oh, we know those people. Mm-hmm. Oh, they clearly wrote this, too. Mm-hmm. Good for them. Cheese. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Inspo. Yeah, that was a good idea. Yeah, great idea. Good play. Ben Affleck looking as young as he looked was crazy. Yeah, all of them. Yeah. The guy from Cheers as well. Is that AI, we think, or? Yes. Yeah. So AI can make us young. AI can't tell me what Bad Bunny's saying, though, whenever he's singing his songs right in front of me. I'm trying to dance to this thing. That's where they draw the line. Interesting enough, I do believe there is a thing now with the AirPods, right, where it can actively translate for you. Oh, my God, I should have plugged in. Right. I think there is. But whose voice is doing it? Is it just some random guy not singing the song? Yeah, probably. I wouldn't want it. You wouldn't want to sound bonito? I wouldn't want it. What about, did you watch, what was that Korean game show? Squid Game. Squid Game. Did you have that dubbed? What did you do Korean? Oh, what do you do? I had it dubbed into English. A lot of people were mad at me because it got rid of the incredible acting of the people that were speaking the language. Game shows, I can do the dub. If it's like a real series or like a good movie, I would rather hear their voices and read the translation. Yeah. So, like, what was the thing on HBO Max? Japanese. The Rush. Japan. Oh, wow. You were thinking Chernobyl. That was good. No, you were thinking of Shoga. Yeah, Shoga. Boom. Like, that show, I want to hear their voices. Did you, Chernobyl, did you watch that? No. Oh, that's so good. It was dark. Yeah, very dark. Yeah, you have to watch it at night. So I need facial expressions. You know, I need to be able to. So I'm captioning everything. Me too. I have captions on everything. I just hate, like, seeing the mouth and, like, it being off. So, like, what was the big heist one that was on for a while? I think it was called heist, yeah. Boom. It was Spanish, yeah. It was tough for me to really get into it. See, I dub it right into English, and I just suspend reality. I just go, yep, they all stop. Yep. Not the best, I guess. Voice over actors, but hey, we're doing it. I just need to know what's going on. If I'm not paying attention, I'd like to hear what's going on. But captions, I think internet has turned me into that. I think internet has turned me into captions for everything type stuff. I'm not the biggest reader, but I found myself. I have captions on everything, yeah. It's so hard not to just read the captions. The whole time. That's my point. I'm not even paying attention. I'm not watching. Good. It makes you a better reader. You need it. A lot of people got their phones, I assume, during last night's game. Mm-hmm. Yeah. A lot of. No doubt. Jeez. There's so many three amounts Oh he's done That was a really good show Let me see what they got going on Ball with the ball This is what I'm talking about They have like 4, 5, 6 million concurrents Yeah That's a huge That's a huge Huge number on YouTube Wow Don't want to get the name TPUSA Turning Point USA Okay Guy Please Come on. I'm just trying. I'm trying. Take it easy. Take it easy. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. Okay. Golly. Golly. A lot going on out there. Sports. There's a lot going on. Sports. Just trying to enjoy it, baby. All right. Let's get that out of here. AJ, great year this year, AJ. Hey, AJ. Great year, fellas. It was awesome. Super Bowl week was amazing, honestly. I didn't know what to expect going into San Fran. San Fran was awesome. Awesome hanging out with everybody. Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed myself. Shout out to Chef Michael Mina, Adrian, and Vanessa at International Smoke. It was a good time. So good. They didn't even serve breakfast. They just made us a brunch every single day and opened their restaurant for us. Like, thank you so much. That was cool. I guess that's a Michelin. He's a Michelin man. I don't doubt it. I guess that's a – Yeah. It was unbelievable. I had 30 pounds of eggs over the week. I probably had no exact reason. 85 scrambled eggs maybe. Ty said San Fran is the most Michelin-star restaurant of any city in the country. In the U.S., I believe. Yeah. I only saw one. Well, that's more than most people are getting. I would imagine getting into those restaurants Super Bowl week is next to impossible. Yeah, so shout out to Adrian. Shout out to Chef Michael Mina. Shout out to Vanessa there for taking care of us. But you're right. San Francisco for us was great. You know, it was cool to see everybody. We walked everywhere. We walked everywhere. Day, night, whenever. Yeah, the weather. AJ, please. Okay, I opened up talking about it. I didn't open up talking about it, but we did talk about it at some point where people, you know, were telling us that we were living some high society life in San Francisco and getting pampered, you know, potentially at some different points. that was happening outside the city or maybe inside a radio road to get in and out if I have something to do or whatever. But we're in those streets. We're in those streets. Morning, very early morning. Night, we're in those – in the afternoon, we're walking. A lot of walking, AJ. Part of our journey. It was great. It was great, yeah. We all had our own journey. We walked everywhere we went. It didn't matter what time. We definitely saw a couple of interesting characters. But, yeah, for the most part, it was all good. Yeah, it was a city. You know, like, I mean, a cleaner city that I have been in. I think that's a much cleaner city than that I have been in. It was. There were certainly some parts that are city-like. There were some turds. There were some wet turds. We had to dodge, but, you know, that's a city. Yeah, Dirty stepped in human poop, like, right off the bat. Are we blaming Dirty for an awareness of the poop, or is he so focused on other things? A little bit of both, but it was more so how liquidy the poop was. That was, like, shocking. Probably some sort of stink guy or something. Yeah. I was the guy who put that down there. Andy was a bad guy. Oh, boy. Bad guy. Hey, you're going to have those. You're going to have those. Few and far between, I would say. We did not expect that. Guy sleeping back in the middle of the intersection. Middle of the afternoon, screaming his ass off, saying terrible things. Shut up, bad guy. AJ gives a speech to D-Butch. Half block away from this guy. AJ, hawk eye, literally. about 10 o'clock up here I don't know if you see it 10 p.m. on the clock got a real piece of shit it sounds and now what did you say basically AJ well when I saw a gentleman that was just wearing a sleeping bag on his lower half roaming around yelling at people from about yeah 80 yards out I told Diva my dad told me don't ever mess with somebody that has nothing to lose and we figured that out as we got closer yes that guy didn't have much to lose it seems like and he was certainly saying a lot of shit to you I appreciate your professionalism I know It is what it is. Part of it. That guy was on a journey. He had a full Pantera back tattoo. He looks like he's been on a journey for a while. Yeah, he actually lost out of it. Never coming back. He's in peace. He's in peace. He's gone. He's in peace. But there wasn't as many as that that I think. No. The expectation was. It was nice, man. It was. Hey. It was nice. It was so nice that someone. Someone that was kind of there. Thought they might have been all paid actors. you know what who said that good point i need everybody in the city what the hell is going on especially i was told three seconds hey all right me and d but me and d but we told by a person that we encountered in san francisco that was walking with us for a portion of our journey once again we're walking a lot of places met up with a lot of people while we're walking where you're headed this way i go see nice don't you think First time seeing the person. It's all bullshit. I saw your little tweet thing. I'm like, what? I saw you talk about how nice this is. I'm like, what's not nice about this? Like, literally, we're like, what's not nice about this? And the answer was, you think this is real? Yeah. I think so. Like, we are. This is real. They street sweep this thing. It's the nicest this city has looked. It's like, cool. So, hey, I'm here. I want to let them know. They did it great. And I was like, but it's very active, you know? So if it was just like for today, would all these people seemingly have these routines of jogging and walking and running and dog and everything? It feels like these people are pretty comfortable with, like, what they're doing or whatever. He goes, all actors. I'm like, what? What? These hoaxes? These actors? Yeah, just around you. You fucking, and you fell for it. You fucking went out there. Hey, this is active. This is nice. Fucking, they're setting you up, Mark. Like, that's what we were told. We lost it. I mean, I laughed maybe three minutes straight whenever I fucking lost it. And it's like, well, if that's the case, they did a great job. They did, yeah. They got us. They got us. They got us. Great job. They got us, yeah. It was an unbelievable time out there. D-Buck, great season, though. Everything D-D, good D-Bad D, Monday morning, D-C. Phenomenal workout. Thank you for traveling so much. No problem, brother. Thank you. Love being here. Yeah, you do. He travels. He does. Because that shit is way down there. Way down there. And Philly's way over there. Life's better when he's in the office. Yeah, you are great. Thank you, Coach. You are really, really good. We're very, very thankful for you. Tone, incredible year, buddy. Thank you, Tony. Good job, Tony. Good job. Hammer. Done. What? That was Tony. That was Tony. He does that to the done sometimes. What'd I do? Well, he thinks it's made to be a little mockery. Yeah, gimmick, yeah. So he's trying to ruin it so we don't do it anymore. Yep. Just now that we'll never stop with hammer. Done. Okay, great year out of you, bud. Thank you. How about you ending with a 3-1 record on Tones plays of the day? Not bad. That's a pretty good way to head in there. Oh, yeah. It would have been 4-0 if the Seahawks didn't just dominate and maybe need to throw the ball at the end at all. Why? Because you picked Sam? Yeah, to go over. Two hunch? 220 or something like that. Oh, damn. I mean, JSN going down, too. What happened with him? Yeah, a concussion and an ankle. He had a tape on his foot or some shit. Yeah, the back of his ankle was being taped, and then he went in there, and then he said concussion people were looking at him. It's like, ooh, I don't like to hear that at all. But it turns out, South York's the winner of the Super Bowl. Great work, Tom. Great college football season as well out of you. Appreciate that. You crushed it. Talks table, boys. What can I say? Those are teams are in it. Biggest trade of the entire season. Yeah. You represented it to a lot of people, let alone the pick at the draft. And then UConn, man, a resurgence of a team having to take it in the shins by a lot of people as the mass hole on a microphone. You guys at Talks table should be incredibly proud of this season. You too, man. Appreciate it. Go work, boys. In the back, hey, I think you guys got better this year. I think it was, like, evident. Don't you think, Foxy? Yeah, I agree. Definitely got better. A lot of room for improvement, though. I like that. A lot of room. I like that. We'll figure that all out as we go, obviously. I think you guys should be incredibly proud of the program that you guys put out every single day. Go work back there behind the glass. Good season, boys. Graphic design, boys. Go work, boys. Go work, boys. Artists. Yeah. Yeah. How about Matt picking up a new job last week? Hell yeah. He's really good at it. Pickleball? She's good. Fuck yeah. So good. Like, best. She's saying best ever. And she brought like eight paddles for everybody. I think we should probably get her off there. Should I take the paddles? Okay, we'll do it. She's kind of, they're kind of on my ass. She does right now. Good job, Matt. Zito, great work, Zito. Baby, Zito. Great season, Zito. Great season, Zito. Doing something to everything. And to the fans, thank you for rocking with us. Hell of a season. Great season by you. And you too, man. Thank you, man. Thank you, thank you. Game day. Yeah. Oh, I love it. Enough of that. All cast. Yeah. A bunch of all cast. Game day to the all cast. Yeah. Those are pretty crazy times. Yeah. The game day down, walking through the stands with like a, you know, Five seconds to go to air the All-Cats. That's the best. Nobody else is doing that. Those are good times there. Those are good times. I saw Tawico last night go from game to Olympic show on field. I thought that was sick. I really appreciate that. You know, you've seen a couple quick turnovers. The running by – from hosting to – Rutledge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those moments are cool because in the brain while you're doing it, it's like, okay, nothing matters that I just did at all. Like literally nothing matters at all. So there's not even a moment of like, hey, that was a fun show. Yeah. Hey, that was a fun show. Hey, when you said this, that was really cool or whatever. Then it's just like immediately like, nope, does not matter. We got to move forward. Those are fun times. Lucky and thankful. Got to prep for him too, though. Yeah. The music as well. Music is crazy. That's crazy that that's happened. You're out. I guess Ari, you know, he let the cat out of the bag. He did. He did. Thank you. Dolph the King. That was great. Thank you, Todd. Thank you, Ty. And you're running the entire business. Yeah, it's pretty fun, man. Andy gave away a lot of money this year. Well, we don't need to keep doing that. Yeah, agreed. Especially if you go all the way back to Big Night Out included. It was a lot of money. Maybe Boston next year. What's that? Yeah, to throw. Yeah. Yeah, fate of the universe. I like that. I like the way we're talking here. I mean, gosh God will get it done. Yeah. Put him outside the arena. and then throw it all the way. Maybe we could do it at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Open up the top. Oh, there we go. Throw it through. He's got to redeem himself. Has to. Noah. It was crazy, though. Australia was when? August 15th. Right into Texas-Ohio State College game day. Yeah. It's been a fucking hell of a run. Oh, yeah. It's been a lot of fun. And we're incredibly lucky that we get to do it. Enjoy the week off. Weeks off. We'll be back at the Combine. Yeah, for as long as you'll have us, we'll do this. for the good of ball, for the good of sports. It's the greatest thing on earth. It's the greatest thing that's ever been created. It's been going on since the beginning of time. There's been this yearn for competition. There's been this yearn to watch others compete. And I think it's something that, you know, can break down a lot of barriers. I think it can break down a lot of hate, a lot of negativity. And I think sports will continue to be the greatest thing of all time because it makes motherfuckers feel alive. We'll be back in a couple of weeks covering the greatest thing on earth. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. And remember, let's not just hate people for out-of-context stuff. Okay? We're done with it. Let's try to learn whatever language is going to be spoken next year in the Super Bowl. It's starting tomorrow. Okay, let's start. We would like a heads up on what that is so we can understand. Happy Korea. Oh, we're driving up, up, up. Oh, yeah, McKenzie would be rocked in. They got talent, by the way. Oh, yeah. Kidding me? Even if it's English, let's get better at that. Let's get better at English, yeah. Oh, Cy? Yeah. He pops up out of the stadium. Oh, yeah. He's in a stadium of, like, what, 700,000 people. It looks like the DMX Woodstock Festival. He comes flying out. Wouldn't mind that at all. No. They need that kind, actually. He's like, I think he's rather, I think he's older. Yeah, yeah. And they're sending his ass into space, and then he's coming back down. Boom! Like Ray Mysterio. I'm like, his knee's incredible. And then he gets right into the middle. Yeah, he's been bringing it for a long time. A long time. Still bringing it. Just like we will be in a few weeks. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you to all our guests that made time to talk to us this season. Shefty on Mondays. Bruce Arians on Tuesdays. J.J. Wall on Wednesdays. Alongside AQ Shipley. Coach Mike McCarthy on Thursday. Now the head coach. Coach Saban on Friday. Pete. Pete Damm will stop by. Dan Orlovsky stopped by a lot. Can't do it without him. Thank you to everybody. Fosso, great season. Fosso. Great season, Fosso. Congrats on the handoff, Fosso. Congrats on the handoff. Good idea. Fosso's getting attacked right now from me saying that I didn't know about the handoff, I assume. Fosso, you were the man. Fosso's always trying to look out for us. Yes, he is. We feel that for real. He's really good at what he does. We appreciate that. One of you, Fox. Shot CFO Phil back there. There we go. Great to see him out in San Francisco. Probably, Phil. Hey, he was having a good time. Hey, we're here. He was having a good time. Yeah. Fox. And also, he paid out all the charity Super Shot charities already. Nice. So thank you to all the people that joined us at Radio Row, raised money, made some shots. $425,000 for the charity Super Shot. Just one last, hey, we're trying to make the world better, we promise. and we utilize every situation we have to continue to try to do that. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you in a few weeks. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.