This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human. No gloss, no filter. Just stories. Spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Sources with the Eagles organization believe Jalen Hertz is not the most coachable, says Jeremy Fowler. Yeah. Keynotes, they talking about well, the one big one is the four words of the Eagles last game and the playoff game. What was that? Uh. See, Hertz was the person who called the four verticals on the Eagles last play 2026 playoff, not Kevin. Put too low. Now. I know we talking about they talking about. The. The game with San Francisco, it was like 43 seconds left. They ran four verse. Reading it, it didn't sound like he called it. It sounded like they act. Well, reading the article, they said they asked him. He gave a suggestion and the Eagles went with his suggestion. That's a big difference between him just saying, hey, this is what I'm running. Let's go. And why wouldn't you ask your quarterback, you know, what he would suggest he's the one that's going to be throwing a ball. He has to be the most comfortable person with the play, I would think. And. I don't see that being an issue, but as a head coach, office coordinator, y'all need to do what y'all think is best for the team that played whatever. Obviously, everybody thought that they were in agreement so that because that was the play they ran. But, you know, it just ran that play. I think it was the play right before it. It just ran the same play. So to double back on it, I don't think it was a good idea because if it was open, the first thing we go do as defenders, especially if it wasn't covered well, is we're going to be like, hey, if they do that again, we got to cover, you know, X, Y and Z. So to come back to next play and do that, that's just crazy to me. But that wasn't, you know, the only thing that they stated. They also went with, as he said, they wanted, he wanted to avoid under center play, reluctant to let it rip at times, particularly against on coverages, push back on changes that would diversify the scheme, poor body language, not always brought in, brought in, diverts from the game plan and changes play cause to an excessive degree. I mean, and not the most coachable and his teammates notice. Like, I don't, I don't know, you giving him that option to, if you're giving him that option to make play calls and change play calls, then you have to be comfortable enough with his decision making in that process. When you look at, you know, guys like, you know, Tom Brady, Peyton Manny, hell Ben, Ben even does, I mean, you know, you look at guys' quarterbacks that were able to do that and go out there and convert and change the plays, you know, Aaron, prime example last year, he's the reason why we were able to get as far as we did cause it damn sure wouldn't have been a 500 season if we didn't have him. So I think I need, this is where I need like, like the source, I need a name attached to it, but you know, so I could give it or take away credibility from what is being saying. And then again, they can't because they're still with the team, they worked there. Now I want to have to deal with no, no lash back from it. Where there's smoke, it's usually, usually a little bit of fire, you know, whatever lie, it's a little bit of truth, you know what I'm saying? But again, you know, it kills all this. Winning kills all this. You ain't hear nothing about this until just this year, after then I had a couple, couple down seasons and now all of a sudden the man ain't coachable. He can't make this throw, he changed this, he do that. Like where was all this at before this happened? If you was winning, getting the Super Bowls and all that, in the playoffs, in the Super Bowl, winning Super Bowl, where was it at? Tell me about that then. Tell me when it's going good, when it's going bad through the organization and y'all still doing great, that you got fixed. How much better you could be then? Let's get that, how much better could you be then if you're winning Super Bowls? And you still got so much going on back here, if you change all that, instead of it just being one, now it could be two in a row, maybe it could be three in a row. Like you fix all the back end, even though you're winning on the front. See, nobody want to fix nothing to the records and the whole thing starts to change. Like, hey, I'm just, you know, spit balling off my head, that's what I do. But if I have something that's working good, why wouldn't I want it to work great? If I have something that's working great, why wouldn't I want it to work excellent? The whole goal is perfection, even though we'll never get to the perfection part. The goal is perfection. Coach LeBow would tell us, hey baby, we always strive for perfection. You know what I'm saying? We ain't gonna never get there, we know that. But the goal is to go and try and attain it. Day in, day out, weekend, week out. And hopefully at some point, we could put up the perfect, the perfect defense. Y'all want to hear with the perfect defense? Chat, y'all want to hear with the perfect defense? You want to hear the numbers of the perfect defense? I know y'all want to hear the numbers of the perfect defense. The numbers of the perfect defense is this. Zero yards, resting zero yards, passing 350 something sacks. The defense don't give up nothing, it's impossible. Perfection is impossible, but you still shoot for it. You don't give up no points, you don't give up no yards. You don't do none of that. As a matter of fact, speaking of Coach LeBow, I might have a surprise for y'all on Monday. Monday, I may have a surprise for y'all on Monday. I'm just saying, it might be, just make sure you hear from Monday. You know what I'm saying? Tell everybody, tell your friends, tell your mama here, your papa, everybody here. Listen, they're great, they're great. Dick LeBow, the court is the defensive coordinator, the inventor of the real, by his own true light. He'll be here on Monday, talking and conversatin'. Matter of fact, if y'all got something y'all want to ask, you know, get it in the chat. He only go be here for one show. You might want to put it in the day to make sure it get in there, because you know how it get going. Thank you. Puka Nakuwa has checked himself into a private facility, his attorney confirmed to focus on health, personal growth and overall development. Puka Chucks this check into the facility on his own, and will remain there until he completes a program of head of the Rams OTAs that start in a few weeks. Chat, what y'all think about this? What was it? So last month, he allegedly had a, what they call a unprovoked, anti-semitic statement on New Year's and I guess better allegedly on her shoulder, which he denied. I believe another incident was in December, or he was on a live stream, and it was another statement of whatever it was, but he ended up apologizing for that. So it was in the same nature of the last statement from last month. He apologized for it. That was a live stream, I guess from December. It was also reported that he had already checked in a substantial time before the allergy, that are currently out, we're public. So I think that's a good thing. He's trying to take accountability, improve himself. He's young and it said that, he likes to have fun, drink a little bit, and y'all know how that go, that message with your judgment. So I'm hoping everything comes out for the best for him, but again, y'all know, I said, I know me. I look at it from both sides, and you also have to be thinking that maybe he got wind of it. It's a contract, it's coming up, and before this goes public, because you already know it could affect the deal, he needs to get ahead of this, and try and do some damage control and show that he's trying to better himself to lessen the blow and get out of it. And as you know, the saying goes, what is it saying? A drunk mind speaks a sober heart. I don't know. I mean, I hope personally that he's there to better himself. He saw the error of his ways and all that, and I'm wishing the best for him. But only time will tell if that's the case or not. Wish the best for all players, especially in growth. If you was to look at me back when I was, what is he, 24, 25? Oh, man, I got so lucky, there wasn't no social media back then. Ooh, a lot of us did. Like, now you say something that, 17, 18, 16 years old, they come back 10, 20 years late, oh, you said this when you were better than that. Yeah, you know, it's, tell my kids this, listen, don't say nothing that you don't wanna be judgeful or that you won't stand behind 100%. Don't put it out nowhere because this stuff don't go away no more, baby. It don't go away. You can't have something be said. Like, you can't have it. Like, it's hard though, you know, especially when you're young, like you spitting vinegar and you really think you know everything, you don't know nothing, you know? You might have some people listening to you and like now, all of a sudden, when they start listening, you get, oh yeah, I'm right. No, it's a lot of stupid people out there and you may be one of the stupid people that's agreeing with stupid people. That's all. I don't understand it. And then you added to the fact that, hey, you might have some paper with you, you might have some money with you. So now you got, you might have a whole bunch of yes men behind you. You know what I'm saying? Hey, yeah, you right, dawg. Yep, you right. Maybe they just there to see if they can get something from you. And then it may not even be getting something from you, it's just being around you, having access to you. You know what I'm saying? I don't, you know, I don't know. I do know, or I can assume I should say, but you gotta keep an eye on all that. You don't wanna be on the internet, you know, out here like looking like Tiger Woods, man. Like check this out, put it up, put it where, where is it? We got this, we got this right here. Listen, man, come on. Like Tiger going to get some help too. He needs it. He understood, I don't know if he understands it fully, but like, listen, go, go, go to the, go to the next one. My dude is in that, is he yawning or is he screaming? I can't tell. Bruh, I need you on here. Like this golf thing, Tiger Woods, but this one right here, that's the coldest. Chad, that's the coldest right there. Where you all, any Dallas fans in here, man? Where, where, where, where, where, where the Dallas fans at? You got any Dallas fans in there? Is this, this is a true false statement, please tell me. Tiger Woods has as many DUIs and car crashes, has as many DUI and car crashes than the Dallas Cowboys have playoff wins in the last three decades. Hey, last three decades. That's crazy. That's crazy. We them boys though, that's what they say. They say we them boys, I can't, I can't tell. I can't tell you them boys, but I think the best one is the next one. Yo, still better at finishing drives than the Cleveland Bronx. This, hey, this is facts people. This is facts. Hey, he still car sideways still better. You can't, you can't knock it. It's a true statement. You can't deny man this man. I ain't, I'm just a messier. I didn't make these up. I did not make these up. I'm just, I'm just showing what's out there. I'm reporting, reporting the news, so to speak, you know, like, I'm not sure what's going on. I'm just sort of speaking, you know, like, and see this is why I really needed Joe here. He would, he would have a greater appreciation or hate, dislike, maybe a rebuttal, maybe some discussion, you know, like, like your boy needs a drop. That's all, that's all that's to it. You know, I don't understand. Like, I think he's a little concerned about privacy issues and all that other stuff and blah, blah, blah, but man, have him sign a, a NDA or some sort or get you a car, bruh, that got a whole silt off area. They can't hear or see nothing unless you call them. Like they can't do nothing back there. Like it don't matter or like, I don't know. It gotta be some way shape or form. And you ain't gotta worry about nothing no more. Is Tiger even married anymore? He ain't married? Man, you can do what you want to do. Like, you got a girlfriend or something? Maybe, I don't know. Let's go to this next one, man. See Joe, this is where I need you, man. Your boy's just, your boy just teed off without me. Yo, Joe, this what you said is what you said. Hey, yo, just tee off without me. I'll meet you at the fourth hole. Nope, not this time, baby. Why look like my boy hiding in the bushes? Like ain't nobody saying. He peeking out like did anybody see me flip this whip? Like come on, man. You know they don't see you flip that whip. He trying to call somebody to come get him before anybody else, no, it's over with, bro. You got to, what is that, a rover? They done called the medical emergency already as soon as the car went sideways. On Star, maybe even your phone done called them too. Like, you, like, I don't even know, bro. Like, I know you limited on your privacy and all that, but you know, one car, two car, then you, oh no, that was just, that was just why it went, put that club on it. I was thinking of something else. Yeah, look here, man, this was me. This was me, man. When your mom, when you ask your mom to go to McDonald's, she says it's food at home, that was me. That was when I liked to go to McDonald's. Bro. I couldn't even say nothing, I'd have to look straight ahead too, because you know, if you eyeball, you go get popped. No, if you eyeball, you go get popped. Don't, don't, don't, don't get no size. Or, no, what you say? Don't do none of that. You looking, you looking for trouble. Damn, Joe. It's a shame, man. Like, Tiger, you and, what is it? Second, third, second, third time he's in. Where you at? I don't know. Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, yeah, I'm a hope and pray that, you know, he's able to figure out what he need to do, how he can get back to where he needs to be, to be able to. Another initial cause was, you know, the surgeries and all that and pain management and all that and getting, getting the wrong people around you that's allowing certain things and then, you know, them allowing it in the process, you know, possibly trying to keep where they're at. I could have swore he just did a, a thing where he said he wasn't taking no more of anything. He was using some, was it CBD or some type of treatment or something? Am I right? I don't remember. Maybe it was. I don't know. Big game. So, Floyd Mayweather is accused of taking an advanced payment from many Pacquiao rematch. Pacquiao's camp says Mayweather took upfront money signed for a pro fight and is now trying to change the terms. I don't know what's going on with, with Floyd, but something's going on, man. It's too much smoke going on around there. Like this is the same cat that I guess he, uh, he spins like crazy. Like extravagant amounts of money. Like he only wears shoes, they say like one time and then he, you know, he gets rid of them buying three and four of the same watch, just different color or something different. Like spending millions of dollars. Like how you don't wear your clothes and shoes more than one time? That don't make no sense. Like you got to run out of money and you spending big money for stuff. It's like, it's no way that you can keep that up and not be bringing in like hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars a hell of a month. Probably how many cars is dude guy? What? Two and three of the same car, like four or five, six hundred. Four or five, six hundred. He got a million dollar cars. Like what's the, what's the one car that he got? That's like four or five, six million dollars or something. Don't he got like two of them or something? And he ain't getting rid of nothing or he just giving it away. Who knows, man? You ain't wearing shoes for one time. You ain't wearing clothes for one time. As I say, this man got five Bugatti's. He got 16 world Royces. Okay. 33 Mercedes from the same dealership, bro. All that from the same dealership. How in the world? And probably paying cash for it straight off the line. I might need to go to car dealership where he, I can't afford that car dealership. Joe, this is something, this is something. I ain't gonna say Joe would do, but this is like, you know, this is something Joe wouldn't even, he wouldn't even blink at all. You got, oh, you got five Bugatti's. That ain't nothing, bro. You got to, you know, you got to get it. You got to get it. You got to get it. You got to get it. You got to get it. That ain't nothing, bro. You got to, you know, which color you don't know if you want to dry the same color every day, you know, he just bought a $4.8 million car with a body that simmers like the $4.8 million for a car. What are we doing? $4.8 million for a car? And they talking about back taxes and everything else. You taking advancements? Bro, you spending, I don't even know. I need an advance on something. I don't, $4.8 million. You don't need no advancements. You got a $4.8 million car, bro. Sell all that. Sell it all. I got, I know somebody you can sell it to. I know name, the initials is, nope, I ain't going to say that because I got the same initials. That's crazy. Their name is Joe Hayden. Their name is Joe Hayden. I was going to say that this was a J-H, but I ain't going to think it was me, bro. I ain't got that kind of paper, bro. I ain't got nothing close to it, man. Like, like, no, I can't, I can't afford it. I don't even know how to afford it, man. I'm just trying to keep the lights on, man. Did the lights on? Did they go lights on? The power on. I think my power's still on. Internet's still on. Internet's still working. I'm doing good. Chad, I'm still on here. The internet's still working? Yeah, it's still on here? Hell yeah, listen. That's what we got to do. That's it. That's it. That's it. 4.8 million. I ain't going to lie to you. I saw a card. I did see a card one time and it was recent. And like, I could never buy it. Maybe I could. I would have to have stupid money, though. And then it would just be so wasteful. I could do other good things with that money. You know what I'm saying? You know, I can afford to do something stupid here and there, but I can't live stupid. I think, you know, when you live stupid and you spend too much, that's when you get in trouble. But the car was like 12 million dollars. Now, the only way I think I would contemplate buying that car is if by some wild stretch of the imagination, I can't maybe a billionaire, but I can't just become a billionaire. I got to be bringing in. I got to be bringing in like maybe 150, 200 million years. Because the money go away fast. OK, it will go away fast when you spend it like that. OK. Now, I need. I don't know what kind of car was. And why have been some kind of Bugatti of some sort or some other kind? It was like a race. When the race car, but it looked nice. I got to ask my son, he the car dude. He showed me it. He's like, dad, you can get it. I'm like, no, I can't. Yeah, you can. No, I can't. I can't unless you want to be living up under a bridge somewhere. So I can't for that. Never could never will. But maybe, maybe. And never know. Never know. Hopefully, hopefully. Look here, man, I'm going to jump on into the chat. Covered like she bag. She got. So you asked five dollars coming to life. What do you think about the franchise tag with Pickens and Jerry's comments about his agent? What was the comments about Jerry's agent? Is it the same agent that was? My position. What were the comments? I'm trying to. What were the comments? I didn't see him. Tell me in the chat. What was it? What was the comments? We'll get back today. Once y'all get to me, it's a little delay on this though. Back to Covenant Live. Five dollars. Resurrection Sunday testimony. On the third day, he rose. Meaningful Cleveland still. Meanwhile. Cleveland still waiting. Cleveland still waiting on a season to rise. Hey, man. Cleveland. Listen, I love this. Hey, listen. Listen, y'all. Y'all need to do something, right? Y'all need it. Hey, y'all need to do something. Y'all can't. 89. He still ain't winning. He got the North. That was it. That was it. He got the ASC North. That was it. Y'all can't even get the North one more. Y'all can't even beat three other teams consistently. The year Joe was born. That was it. Man. Listen here, man. Oh, my. Oh, my. I'm going to be a little bit more aggressive. I'm going to be a little bit more aggressive. Oh, my. Oh, my. Good Lord. Cutting the light back. She be flooding the chat. She be flooding the chat. We love you. Appreciate you for it. No question. $3. She said, D-Boy, I could have co-hosted with you and pretended to be Joe and responded just as he would. Joe, you messed up my. Joe, you messed up my. How well do you know your co-host Jeopardy Edition? I will ask the chat. You know the 100 yard return before James was a stiller. You know the 100 yard return, but before James was a stiller, he played in NFL Europe. Which team did he play for? Oh, chat. NFL Europe. Which team did I play for? It was $300. This is a question we need to be asked. Covenant Life said, hey, chat. This is for the chat, though. Which team did I play for in NFL Europe? Which team? Don't be going and looking and going on chat GPT and all that. Cheating. Let's see. Let's hop back to the franchise. Y'all give me that franchise. Tell me what, Jay. We probably ain't got no cowboy fans here. We kind of talk crazy to them. Yes. Somebody was right. Ryan Fire. Ryan Fire. You meet you. Listen. Y'all can go to Germany if y'all want to. I'm cool with it. It was cool. It got done what I needed to get done, but the NFL Europe experience, that wasn't that wasn't for me. Period. Like the NFL Europe experience wasn't for me. I like doing what I was doing over there playing the game, but it was worse than playing on practice squad. Like it was worse than that. Like you at least on practice squad, you got paid some good money. I think I was getting like 100 dollars a week. Like this. And then they get your housing and whatever you stay in the hotel and all that. But you can't what they do for you. You still got to do other things for yourself. And then you had guys over there to help whole families, dude. They were over there playing. I'm like, ooh, it was you had to want it. That's for sure. Like you had to want it for sure. But I did not like the experience. What we got here. Oh, my goodness. They said Jerry said Pickens will save a lot of money if he did the deals directly without an agent. Same BS. He tried with Micah. That's purple yet I pack. Wow. Purple Yeti pack. Purple. Yeah. Purple Yeti pack. I don't even know if you can do that. Can you can you do your contract without an agent? I think you can. But it don't never work that way. You use your agent as the in between. To say the things that you shouldn't directly say. Or be upset about because of the process of how you got to work that out once you actually do do the deal or you don't do the deal. So all this stuff that Jerry is talking about is nothing but stuff to benefit him. It has nothing to do with the player. It's to benefit him and his team and to get a player at a cheaper price or a better price than what the value is of what they should be paid. Period. Like yeah, go without represented or go without representation. Yeah. Don't know of the wording that I'm putting in here where I changed two or three words and now you're screwed and you got to give me all your money back because you said it. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to me. Y'all cry. Y'all out of control out of control. He has this and you can't you can't do that man. Get your money. Get your money pickings. Use your agent. Use your lawyer. Use your turn. Use everything. Pay. Tell you need to pay top dollar man. You gave top performance. You need to pay top dollar. Period. End of discussion. Look here man. Thank you guys for joining us. Oh, thank you for joining me on this episode of Debo. Please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you get to show. We, Debo and Joe, will be back here on Monday with Dick LaBeau. And we out. We'll be back.