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Abducted by Hairy Dwarves in Brazil

8 min
Apr 12, 20267 days ago
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Summary

This episode examines the 1969 abduction case of José Antonio de Silva in Brazil, who claimed to be taken aboard a flying saucer by small hairy beings for approximately 109 hours. The discussion traces the history of UFO research in Brazil and analyzes the case through the lens of interdimensional entities rather than extraterrestrial visitors, drawing on anthroposophical and esoteric interpretations of UFO phenomena.

Insights
  • Brazilian UFO research has a documented history parallel to the United States, with organized civilian investigation dating back to 1954
  • Early UFO abduction accounts often featured consistent details across different cases and countries, suggesting either shared cultural narratives or genuine phenomena
  • Interpretations of UFO encounters shifted from purely extraterrestrial explanations toward interdimensional and esoteric frameworks by the 1970s
  • Military and institutional involvement in UFO investigations was documented in Brazil, including Brazilian Air Force consultation and military hospital evaluations
Trends
Shift from extraterrestrial to interdimensional/ultra-terrestrial interpretation of UFO phenomena in 1970s UFO researchIntegration of esoteric and anthroposophical frameworks into mainstream UFO investigation and analysisCross-national consistency in UFO abduction narratives suggesting either cultural diffusion or shared experiential patternsMilitary institutional engagement with civilian UFO researchers and case documentationEmergence of critical analysis questioning the veracity of abduction accounts within UFO research community
Companies
Flying Saucer Review
Published three issues examining the José Antonio de Silva abduction case in 1971, 1973, and 1975
Amazon
Platform where Charles Lear's book 'Crashed Saucers and Malevolent Aliens' is available for purchase
Catholic University of Minas Gerais
Institution where Júvio Brandt El Ixo was a professor of psychology and conducted UFO research
Brazilian Air Force
Military organization for which Júvio Brandt El Ixo served as a UFO consultant
People
KTown
Host of the Mysterious Radio podcast episode on the Brazilian abduction case
Charles Lear
Author of the episode content and book 'Crashed Saucers and Malevolent Aliens' on UFO phenomena
Júvio Brandt El Ixo
Founded first Brazilian UFO organization in 1954 and investigated the Silva abduction case
José Antonio de Silva
Brazilian soldier who claimed abduction by small hairy beings for 109 hours in May 1969
Bob Pratt
Collaborated with El Ixo on UFO investigations and published findings in 1996 book 'UFO Danger Zone'
Gordon Craton
Wrote early analysis of Silva case for FSR and promoted interdimensional interpretation of UFOs
John Keel
Pioneering researcher whose interdimensional theories influenced UFO analysis in the 1970s
Jacques Vallée
Researcher whose interdimensional and ultra-terrestrial theories influenced UFO interpretation
Rudolph Steiner
Founder of anthroposophy, philosophical framework influencing UFO interpretation by Craton
Dan Lloyd
Assistant editor of FSR from 1965-1974 and leading anthroposophist influencing UFO analysis
Quotes
"It is the little gents themselves who fed this idea into him, as they manipulated and brainwashed his mind. Throughout the centuries, these creatures have always been noted for their penchant for humbug"
Gordon CratonMid-episode analysis
"We'll return in three years from now to look for you again"
Hairy beings (reported by José Antonio de Silva)Abduction account
"The history of civilian UFO slash flying saucer research in Brazil goes back as far as that of the United States"
Charles LearOpening
Full Transcript
Hi there, I'm KTown and on this edition of Mysterious Radio. Ducted by Harry Dwarves in Brazil by Charles Lear The history of civilian UFO slash flying saucer research in Brazil goes back as far as that of the United States. The first organization to be formed there was Civil de Objetos, Aerios, now Identificados, Aerial Investigation Center for Unidentified Aerial Objects, founded by Júvio Brandt El Ixo in Belo Horizonte in 1954. El Ixo was a professor of psychology at the Catholic University of Minas Geres and was an active investigator for much of his life. He was one of the people Bob Pratt worked with when he did his investigations for his 1996 book UFO Danger Zone and according to his biography in a memorial he seems to have passed away on World Ufology Day, June 24, 2005, posted January 9, 2006 on the UFO magazine website. He was a consultant on UFOs for the Brazilian Air Force. Documents describing a case he reported to the Brazilian Ministerio de Aeronáctica in 1974 can be found online. It was the principal investigator of a reported abduction said to have occurred over a period of approximately four and a half days, 109 hours from May 4, 1969 to May 9, 1969 in Bebedoro, not the municipality of São Paulo, an area over 100 miles north of Belo Horizonte, and that is the case we'll be looking at in this blog. The case of José Antonio de Silva is examined in three issues of Flying Saucer Review, November December 1971, November December 1973 and November 1975. The first article, 48 hours in a Flying Saucer by Gordon Cratein, gives an account that, according to him, was taken from a press clipping that came from the May 16, 1969 edition of either the Rio de Janeiro, D'Erio de Notesas or the São Paulo, D'Erio de Noeta. Cratein quotes the report straight from the clipping. So this is an early account close to the time of the event. As Silva is said to have reported that he was picked up by a Flying Saucer near the town of Pedro Leopoldo and then sat down in Coletina, which is 350 kilometers away. He then took a train back to Belo Horizonte where he was picked up by a railway policeman who saw him standing in a peculiar manner beside the track. He reportedly told his story to the policeman and then told it again to a group of curious listeners at the station, which we assume was the police station. De Silva is described as being a soldier in the Brazilian Guards Battalion and of little education. According to the report, he was fishing at a lake near Pedro Leopoldo when a noise behind him caused him to turn around. He is said to have seen a disc-shaped craft come down and land on a tripod that came out of the bottom. A bright yellow light that came from it changed to red and then faded out until he was able to see the shape of the craft. A hatch that had a staircase on its inside is described as opening and coming down, and three small yellowish hairy men with high cheekbones are said to have descended. According to the article, they all carried a weapon, and one of them shot a beam of light out of the one he had that struck De Silva's legs and paralyzed them. The men are described as coming over to De Silva and examining him quickly. They are said to have then put a helmet on his head that seemed to be made of plastic. According to the report, they spoke to him in a language he couldn't understand, but he gathered that they wanted to take him for a trip around the other worlds. The little men are said to have taken De Silva into the saucer and the inside is described as having a shaft that went from floor to ceiling that had four seats attached to it, into which they all sat and then secured themselves with seatbelts. According to the article, the saucer rose up and turned upside down, but De Silva did not feel he was in this position. De Silva is said to have produced the policeman, Geraldo López De Silva, no relation, and the assistant to the station master, Emilio De Silva, again no relation, as witnesses who said they believed his story and to have claimed that the watchman at the Colatina railway station had seen the saucer land. More details are included that reportedly came from De Silva telling his story at the station. He said he took the train from Colatina, where the little men had left him, and that they told him, we'll return in three years from now to look for you again. According to him, even though he spent 48 hours in the saucer, he wasn't hungry or tired. He said they passed, in the reporter's words, an extremely powerful source of light, that he thought might have been the sun, and that they eventually landed somewhere. From the article, when the door descended, he saw that he was in a bright, ashen colored, and here the text ends, described as defective, by Gordon Craton. He is said to have seen bodies of earth beings and drawings of animals on the walls, and to have been given a bitter greenish sort of water to drink. According to the article, he was asked questions about earth, and he answered them. In the saucer is described as returning to earth at great speed, and then landing at Colatina, where De Silva was dropped off. De Silva is said to have been quite stunned during his train ride to Beloharresante, and to have had entries to his back. His legs are described as having been asleep. The article describes De Silva being taken to the guards brigade barracks, where a great multitude gathered around the gate. The reporter says it was understood that he was taken to a military hospital for mental evaluation, but explains, nobody will confirm this. After the quoted newspaper account, Craton gives his thoughts. He starts off by noting that, in De Silva's story, there is not a shred of evidence in it to point to outer space. Considering that the craft is referred to in the article as a flying saucer, and it is said to have flown through space, this is a curious statement. He goes further after comparing De Silva's story to that of Georgia Damsky, Antonio Vias Boas, and Felipe Martinez, who claimed to have contacts with small men in helmets in Argentina who tried to put one on him by saying, It is the little gents themselves who fed this idea into him, as they manipulated and brainwashed his mind. Throughout the centuries, these creatures have always been noted for their penchant for humbug, and this time, as so often in the past, they picked a simple sort of fellow with whom to play their tricks, and to whom to give their current line in cock and bull stories, which is space travel. Craton was one of the earliest people to have accepted the ideas of John Keel and Jacques Fillet that we might be dealing with interdimensional, ultra-terrestrial, fae folk type tricksters, but he had his own ideas at the time he wrote this that put it into context. According to Hockham Blunkfist, in his January 3, 2014 posting on his site at Blogspot.com had lined Gordon Craton and the FSR archives, Gordon Craton derived much of his basic ideas on UFOs from Rudolph Steiner, founder of the anthroposophical movement. According to anthroposophists, UFOs are manifestations of the demonic potterman. Blunkfist explains that from 1965 to 1974, the assistant editor of FSR was Dan Lloyd, and that he and his wife Eileen were leading anthroposophists in Britain. Next week, the Silvus story is reported by Juvio Prant Alixo. Charles Lear is the author of Crasht Saucers and Malevolent Aliens, available at amazon.com. About our guests and all others, please visit our website at mysteriousradio.com.