his last fight, I mean he's still in fighting shape. You know, he's fought in Pacquiao, he's fought Floyd Mayweather, he's fought, I mean, Oscar Delahoya, you name it. Every champion that you guys all know or grew up with or your parents know and follow, this man has fought them and beat many of them. So it's just an honor to have you on the show today. You know, you grew up with boxing gloves on your hand, like you come from a lineage. Pretty much. Of boxers, was it your father? Well, my father boxed, but not really like the box that I did professionally, whatever. He was more of a, you know, he grew up in Watts. So he had to, you know, do more of the fights in the street. Yeah. You know, he was in gymnastics and other types of sports like that, but very strong, physically very strong. Yeah. Nice. When did you know like boxing wasn't just a sport? This was just, this was going to be your life. I knew when I was like nine years old that boxing was going to be my life. I knew that I wanted to be the world champion. I knew that I want to be great because at that young age, I said to myself, you know, it's a one-on-one sport and I determined if I'm going to win or not. If the kids are my size and my age, there's nowhere they're going to be. So I took to the challenge and, you know, boxing. I just fell in love with boxing right away and actually watching like Sugar Red Leonard and a lot of those guys at that time, Sugar Red Leonard, Time and Horns, the brother ran, you know, those guys actually motivated me to be the top fighter that I was, you know, even then. So is that where the name derived from? Cause I love Sugar Red Leonard too, but did you get it after Sugar Ray? The name was given to me probably because of Sugar Red Leonard. I used to wear Sugar Red Leonard gloves in 1980. I started boxing in 1979. Sugar Red Leonard was like the champion in 1980. So he was a big thing. So it was like, we're going to call you Sugar Shane and just stuck with me all the way through. You know, I remember meeting Sugar Robinson and his wife and telling them my name was Sugar too, you know, and they just like, yeah, they'd be good to be a sugar. And I'm like, well, I'm really good. I'm going to be the best, you know. So yeah, it just took, would be everybody would announce my name when I was fighting. When I was like 12, 11 years old, my name was announced Sugar Shane mostly when they announced me. It wasn't just Shane, most of it was Sugar Shane. So it's been with me forever. You had your professional fight, first professional fight at what age? I think I was 22 or 21, 22 years old. I weighed two after the Olympics in 1992 to fight for professional, I would fight professionally. The reason why, because of Olympics, but I could have probably turned professionally early. I was actually number one when I was 17 years old in the country and representing the United States for dual meets and stuff from 17 to 21. I was the number one guy in the United States. Wow. Yeah. And was that in the Olympics? That was an Olympic spout, it was on the Olympic team, but I didn't go to the Olympics. I lost to Vernon Forest and was an alternate for the Olympics. And yeah, so I was supposed to go, but I did actually beat the guy that was the Supermullus and a dual meet. So I mean, I just felt short, things like that happen. It happens, it happens. So from your early days to the big belts, what did winning mean to you back then? And has that definition of winning changed now? Well, back the day winning for me was everything. It's like I had to win. Before I fought for my first world title, I think it was 22 and 0 with like 21 knockouts or 23 and 0 with 22 knockouts. I knocked out pretty much everybody because I didn't want to go to the judges because you never know, sometimes you never know what's gonna happen with the judges. I'm like, I have to be one of the greats. I have to be a champion. And yeah, I don't even want the judges to even have a hand in this. But winning to me back then, it was more so like, you know, it's like an honor and achievement to be the world champion. It was, it felt like I was part of history because all the great champions, they held the belt with honor. Nowadays, it seems that the honor has changed. It's how the box has changed and it's more of how much money can we get. And even the ones that will fight for honor will turn to fight for the money because the money seems to be, I mean, it's a great tool to have, you know? Money's great, right? Yeah, I mean, now these boxing tickets are insane. Yeah. They're insane tickets. I mean, can you get a fight like against Logan Paul? You know, like, would that be a big ticket? Logan or Jake? Yeah, I mean, it was funny because I actually trained Jake Paul. So I was one of his first trainers. So I don't think that that would ever happen. I mean, he is fighting guys smaller than Jake Paul. I mean, like Javante Davis. So. He's smaller than you? Yeah, Javante Davis is really small. I mean, that'd be a cool fight. You and Logan, but it'd be probably rigged. Yeah. I mean, they have the $20 million and $30 million and $50 million. I would definitely get in the ring and fight. I mean, that's a no-brainer. Yeah. I mean, I think you fight for less than that. You're just a fighter. Really, I'm just a fighter. I love to fight and I get in the ring all the time with all these young fighters. So they pay that type of money. Then yeah, that's just a no-brainer. Yeah. But, you know, at least I go out there and try, you know? I like to try. What's your opinion about the quality or the metric of these quality of fighters now that we're seeing these YouTube sensational fighters? I think that the fighters, they are good. And they have a lot of great qualities, you know, the speed, power, and, you know, moving around. I guess the physical part of it. But the only thing that's different is the mentality of the fighter back then and now. I think the mentality is changing where they're, they started to really go for it. I mean, Terrence Crawford proved that, you know, he actually showed a great mentality and some old-time, old-school type of fighter, fighting Terrence did. Terrence was, he showed a great variety of different styles where he can stay there and punch at the same time he can move. And like he did a lot of great things in there. So I took my half to him. I think he did a great job. I actually thought Canelo was just too big to win. But he definitely proved me wrong. Well, Terrence is an old-school, he's a traditional fighter. He's more of a traditional fighter. And so is Canelo. And so is Canelo. But Canelo kind of fought them. He didn't change, whereas Crawford had different things in there that he changed and made it hard for Canelo to catch up with him. Yeah, I think you said he knew kind of like, he knew his strategy already. He knew, he knew steps. He knew basically what he was going to do. And Canelo did the same exact thing every time, through one shot to the body or one shot to the head. And Crawford just had to stay away from that and out point him. Now, you fought some of the biggest names in history, from Delahoya to Koto to Mayorga to Mayweather to Pacquiao. But what was your hardest fight mentally? And what was your hardest fight physically? Well, the hardest fight for both was actually Winky Wright. The Winky, Ronald Wright was the hardest fight for me at Southpaw. He was at Southpaw, Jim Middleweight. He was a little bit bigger. And he was very skilled because he can catch and throw, catch and throw. So the shots I was hitting him with didn't hurt. And he was just bigging me where he can just kind of lay on me or just kind of like, you know, smother me. And I couldn't do anything. So that was just a harder fight because I didn't believe his size. And his ability, he had great ability too. It wasn't just size. It was his ability because if he was less than what he was, then I could have out pointed him or something. So he was actually, he was a great fighter. What year was that fight against Winky? Ooh. I'm thinking 2006 or 2007, maybe. I remember that name. I remember that fight. He also after, because I was supposed to fight Trinidad after that. And he fought Trinidad instead. And he beat Trinidad too. Actually beat Trinidad worse. I mean, actually, it was a close fight with me and him. But Trinidad, they kind of like just out pointed him. Did you fight Trinidad? I didn't get a chance to because of lots of Winky. Now, so Winky right was harder. That was harder than Canela. It was harder than Mayweather. Hard all of them. Yeah, because of his style. Like they were more strategic. Mayweather and Canelo and in color rules, they were more strategic where he was, it was just hard to fight him. Like a South Paul, but he was just tough. You didn't fight Canela, did you? Yeah, I fought Canelo as well. You fought Canelo? Yeah, he was like 21. He was a year older than my son. He was 21. I think I was 40, 39 or 40. You fought him at 40? Yeah, I believe I was 40 years old when I fought Canelo. He was 21. Wow. Yeah. I mean, when was your last big fight? How old were you? I don't know, last fight was with Mayorga. I did that promotion myself at the forum. When he was at? Oh, 2016 maybe? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and that was my last fight. You know, that wasn't my last fight. I took it back. My last fight was with David Evanesian, the Russian kid. That was my last fight and that was maybe 2016. So he was probably 2015. But you're still in great shape. You still look like you could get in the ring tomorrow. I could, yeah. I get in the ring at Spar and move around. Like I'm still pretty good. I know my limits. You know, I know where I can go, but. What are your limits? I mean, you seem like you're limited at this still. Yeah, I mean, you know, a limit will be like maybe getting a Crawford, you know, he's younger and, you know. You getting there with Crawford right now? I would, but that's kind of like. Crawford, you hear that? The champ? Yeah, but I'm just saying, but he's too young for me. I wouldn't stop. He's 30. He's 30. He's in the 30s. But yeah, I'm saying like I'll fight somebody different than that, that more, you know, like he's more out of the league. My son Shane Jewel fight him. When will he fight him? Probably pretty soon after my son was the world title, he can fight Crawford at 160. I think Crawford is trying to go to 60 to fight. And your son's fighting the world for the world title pretty soon. Yeah, yeah. And December 6th. It'll be in Vegas in June, Grand. Be fighting against Ramos. Wow. So, yeah, he's getting, he was both, I took it to a fifth, but I think Fondue hurt his hand and they postponed the date. So now he's going to be fighting December 6th. And I'm excited for that because these people work very hard. It's a long time coming. You've been training them. Yeah. Well, I'm not as trained. There's another trainer, Eric. He was last in the air. He's a very, very good trainer out of Canada. And he's been working with them. I give my son all the tools he needs, like all the little different strategies like that. So I'm always there beside him. But yeah. Wait a minute. How old was your son when he started boxing? He started when he was eight, but then he stopped and he came back to boxing when he was 16, or 15 or 16. It's just in his blood. Yeah, it's his blood. Yeah, he wanted to fight, you know. So he picked up a pair of gloves the same age you picked up a pair of gloves? Pretty much, yeah. OK, you know, I'm just blown away by your level of fitness. Like, guys, you don't even understand. He literally looks the same. You know, the dude is ripped. What is your regimen to stay this fit still at 54? So start with the morning. What's your morning regimen? What depends. And you work out regimen. It depends on, I think, if I start working out, when I work out. But I think that the real reason is me going to the gym and carrying the bags, sparring with the kids, staying in shape that way. I think that just being active as a fighter, not on the level that I was when I was fighting for world titles, but just being active. It gives my body that type of, you know, that type of chisel where I could just stay fit. I mean, being active is not like you don't stay that chiseled. I think that and not eating is not overeating over indulging. Yeah. Trying to. I'm more of a snacker anyway. And just, yeah. You eat one meal a day. You mentioned. Well, yeah, one meal a day. I'm a snacker. So I, one good meal and then maybe snack here and there. What kind of snacks? Nuts or something? Nuts, granola or, which is granola is not really good, but the nuts are good. You know, I can pump concies and stuff like that. You know. Yeah, I can't imagine maintaining that body, that BMI at your age is like, I'm sure it gets harder, but. But not really. I mean, once you get used to, you know, eat a certain way, then it's not hard at all. But it's just getting used to it. Now, what about outside the ring? What was the fight the public never saw, but shaped the man you became now? The fight that the public was. Yeah, like what's like one fight you've dealt with, and you know, behind the media? Well, I would say fights. I would say more of when you spar, when you go to the gym and spar. So I spar with two world champions every day before I was world champion. I think that kind of motivated me. Zac Padilla was 140 pound world champion. And Chikunidu Gino Hernandez was a 130 pound champion. I was fighting 135. So I would spar with these guys almost every day. And I think that. Here in LA? In LA, yeah. I think that made me that they kind of transformed me as a young fighter into a world champion. Helped me to understand what a champion, what it took to be a champion. Because I was sparring with two champions. And I had to be good enough, better, or just good enough to be in the ring with them. Because if I wasn't, they would just, you know, they'd dust me out. But they were, by me, sparring with them all the time, they were actually winning all of their fights. So they needed me to spar with them. And I knew, that's how I knew that I was gonna be the next world champion because I'm in the ring with two champions every day. So there's no way that anybody else is gonna be able to mess with me. That's just unreal. So that's what people don't realize. It's like the work that goes into being a champion, people don't see that you're fighting champions before. People don't see that you're like, I mean, when I was born, it all out before. I was 15 years old, I was in the ring with Azuma Nosa and sparring with him. And then after the sparring session, Carl Kinga like, oh my God, I'm gonna sign you. I was like, he's only 15 years old. You can't sign right now. He's not even pro yet. So I was, and I was sparring with a lot of work, like head to Lopez and, you know, like all these world champions, I was around. How did you get in front of those people? The gym you went to? I go to different gyms, spar with different people. Yeah, I'll go to the gym. And my father was tempted to the gym and we'll look up for the best, the best person, the champion, the world champion. And we'll get them in with them and work and try to be better. You know, so. I feel like the world of boxing now, it's like to be a good boxer, like I'll give you where I live in Costa Mesa, like there's only one real boxing gym. Everything else is like this like, you know, trendy boxing gym. You got Trump to the hood a little bit now. I did East LA Pomona as well, so you know, Bowman Park, you gotta go to the real, you gotta go to the hood a little bit. They don't have those real boxing gyms. It's all fancy stuff. You know, what the gym is hot and, you know, they got air conditioning. You don't want air conditioning. You know, and they got music and it's like disco lights. Yeah, you need a small ring and hot and people looking at you crazy, you know. That's a real. You don't see those Rocky style boxing gyms. Real boxing gym and all that nice stuff. I've never, I don't think I've ever stepped foot in a boxing gym. You got like all of them are now like Box House or, you know, rumble boxing. They're not real boxing gyms. Have you ever seen these places? I seen rumble boxing. That's not there. That's just for people to go there. It's like for moms. Yeah, yeah. To just work out. Yeah, I mean, I go to gyms all, all the rough gyms. Even now I've got the rough gyms of Puerto Rico or in Mexico or wherever. Like I like to go to the hood and it goes to gyms like that and see what they got. You know. Yeah. Now you're living in Puerto Rico. Yeah. And we describe, you know, you got a lot of fans in Puerto Rico. What is it that drew you to live in Puerto Rico? Actually, the people I actually started, I moved there or went there when I was transient Paul Fernandez. And then from there, I started meeting a lot of people there. I already knew a lot of people anyway, but I realized Puerto Rico's a boxing. Country, yeah. A boxing country or state. Well, it's a territory of the United States. So I realized it was a boxing, you know, I guess you say. Well, territory. Yeah. So and the people love boxing and I love boxing. So it's kind of like I would definitely want to give back and to the kids that really want to learn. And they seem to really want to learn the sport and be the best, you know. So I love it. There's a lot of financial benefits as far as taxes concerns. Well, so that's just a vaccine on the cake. Yeah. I mean, we were talking, we were having this conversation. It's like, you know, Philippines, Puerto Rico. Yeah. These people just adore you, you know, they just adore you. You go to Philippines, you go to Puerto Rico. Yeah. It's like everybody knows sugar shame. Yeah. It's a whole different flavor. And it's like. And every meal, 30 plus. Yeah. 30 plus, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a good thing about Jake Paul is because he's getting a younger generation involved and so they can see who's, you know, who's who, I guess. But yeah. What's your opinion about this new reemergence of boxing amongst the youth? Like Jake Paul has really like reignited a fire for the love of boxing that didn't exist. I would say boxing was a dormant sport for like a decade. Yeah. I mean, he's really getting behind, you know, the fighters out there in Puerto Rico and also the women, women boxing, he's brought women box to another level. I mean, that's what he's promoting it. He's promoting. Yeah. He's promoted women boxing and now in Puerto Rico or whatever, if you want to, you know, be involved with with the fight game, being a woman, because back in the day, you know, women boxing wasn't that big. But now, nowadays, you know, the women box are getting paid. And that's because of Jake Paul. So he's doing a great job. You know, I see that shift in a lot of women sports, like basketball, for instance. You know, and I would have probably attribute Caitlin Clark to that, you know, but like women basketball is like it. I think in like five years, it's going to be neck and neck with the NBA. That's impressive. Yes. You know, so you're starting to see this in boxing. You're seeing in basketball. I mean, you're seeing it in, you know, you might see flag football, you know, women's soccer. Yeah. You know, it's like right around the corner where you'll see a professional flag football. And these women fighters, they're actually pretty, they're actually good. You have a good technique and power and stuff like that, you know. So it is getting more exciting before what probably wasn't exciting because there wasn't maybe as good. But the women box is really taken off and they're really fighting a lot better now. Yeah. I mean, obviously, we know this happens in the UFC. Women's UFC is obviously insane. So now that you've lived through multiple errors of the boxing sport, what stands out to you the most about how the fight game has evolved? I mean, that's kind of easier. What stands out to me is the money that they're making is crazy. If I was fighting that era, you know, I would. But Mike Tyson was making insane money, right? Not really. I mean, he made 20 million, but he made 20 million. Yeah. He was making some good money. But only Mike Tyson was making like that. You know, and this year. In Delaware. Delaware was making 10 million, but not 50 million, 100 million dollars. This is a different like. What's your highest paid fight? 7 million. And that's Gis Pacquiao. Yeah. So they're making like Crawford and Canelo 150 million. 150 million. 150 million. Yes. Crawford made 50 million or a hundred million or something like that. Like they're making money like that. That's the difference. That's and he's not like, then what did Logan Paul make? I have Jake Paul make maybe 20, 40 million. But see, but he brought boxing to Netflix. So, you know, he's doing something with all his fans and people that they're supporting him. So that's why he's making that type of money. You know, I think Tyson made 20 million, you know, something like that. So he just gave him that fight. This type of stuff is like that. That's the difference. And back then, I mean, you go back to Sugar and Linden and all of them back there was that type of money that we've made more money and now they're making way more money. So we doubled their money that they were making back in the 80s. But does your son get to make that kind of money now? Not yet, but hopefully he'll be in there. You know. Yeah. He's still only making six figures a fight, not seven, huh? Yeah. I think that after this, you know, if he fights, but that that could be eight figures, you know? Yeah. I mean, he'd be like, it's just a pistol. You fight, you know, I didn't need to be a seven time world champion like you and I already made more than you. Exactly. It's like funny money. Yeah. They say it's different. Now, today's boxing world looks a lot different. What do you think today's fighters are missing that your era had in, you know, the only the real the real thing that they're missing and not every fighter, but I'm just the majority is the mentality of going out there and getting the knockout going out there and really going for the win and making the fans enjoy letting the fans enjoy the actual fight like actually fighting. Now they was they'll say, well, we're boxers. We're going to hit and not get hit. We're going to hit and not get hit. And they're going to stay away and they're going to box. That's that's kind of the difference that they don't really engage even the boxers back in the day. Like separate no Whitaker with that doesn't get hit or whatever. He's going to stay in the pocket and try not to guy out. He's going to not get hit, but at the same time, he's going to actually go for it and make the guy, you know, like go for the knockout, whereas these guys will not go for the knockout and not get hit either, but just not not try that that put themselves in danger. They would they say, why put myself in danger? Why risk? You know, like they're too afraid to to to go for the knockout. And that's what the fans like. That's what you train. You work out for, you know, they're too afraid of it, but so you know, to do his own, you know, they still I think they're great fighters, though. There's a lot of there's a lot like Kura Stevenson and a few others take Davis will go for the knockout. That's why people like to see him, you know, and and Crawford will go for a knockout when he when he can. So they want to see those type of fights. But other than that, I mean, there's a lot of in a way is actually a fighter that will go for the knockout, you know, the Chinese guy. And he's exciting and people want to see him. So it's the mentality has to change. If they have them entirely like those fires I named, then I think that the sport would change around. Are you instilling that mentality and sugar and Shane Moseley, Jr. Of course, he has them as well. You know, like he's a good boxer and but he's also a fighter too. But he also has told me also the dog, you know, sometimes he has to do more boxing than try to sit there and fight because he will get too much of each system fights too long. So how do you get that dog in you? What is it that makes you? You it's a mentality. That's some I said, you know, like I will win. I'm going to get you. I'm going to win. I'm going to beat you a certain way, you know, and even if you do whatever you do, there's nothing you can do that can stop it, you know, just you just bite down. It's that. Yeah, rociousness. Is that is that that being that predator, like you just you coming for you. I'm coming for you, you know. Now, social media, big promos, influencers in the ring. What's your honest take on where this sport is headed right now? Oh, it looks like it's headed to a right position. I think that maybe maybe these guys are getting paid a lot, maybe too much money and sometimes it kind of like makes them more lackadaisical, but I'm all for them getting paid. That's about me. I would definitely love to get paid a hundred million dollars or whatever it is. Yeah, I mean, you got family in it now. So it's like, yeah, I mean, but I, you know, but it takes away. It seems like it's taking away the fight out of some of these big fights because they're like, oh, God, you're a tire after this, you know, I don't do nothing else. I don't know. But I think the sport is is going back to the old, the old school, the old way, I think the mentality of it, you know, hopefully it gets there. Hopefully it goes to where we where we watched all these fights and want to, you know, go home and I'm going to watch this fight and watch that fight. You know, and I knew it's going to be a great fight, you know, except like, I wonder if it's going to make I wonder if it's going to run. I wonder if it's going to like, if it's going to be a boring fight. And I like, you have to wonder if it's going to be a good fight or not. Back in the day, it's like, we know, like, you know, my Tyson's going there, it's going to be a great fight. You know, like, like myself or let's say Trinidad or anybody in Chavez, you know, like these guys, all these guys, she were letting, you know, Tommy Hearns, it's going to be some fireworks. Mark Rehaigland, something's going to happen. Every, like you talk about Tyson, every fight of his was so damn fun. It was fun. Like, you know, like, it's a thing like all your fights were amazing. What's going to happen? Like, what's going to happen? That was that was the thing. Nowadays, like, you're not like what's going to happen as far as excite me, but it's going to run. It's going to be a boring fight. Like, what's going to happen? Back then it's like, yeah, what's going to happen, but what's going to happen? Like, who's going to get knocked out? Like, what's going to, you know, what's going to happen that way? Yeah. Not who's going to run the most. So I'm making a boring fight. Yeah, I'll be real with you. I think boxing was tougher and better back when you were boxing. I just do. I think the era of boxing has gotten a little softer. I know that Jake Paul is trying to make it more ferocious, but it's there's a lot of glitz and glamour and hokey pokey social media, you know, narrative behind it, right? So, but you pause actually, he's actually a real fighter, though. Yeah, I trained him and I know his mentality. I know his mindset. So that's a good fight. Yeah. So he's a good fighter. He's actually a fighter. Yeah. He's a, you know, for seven or eight years now, like he's a real fighter. So you think you see it the same, you don't see it the same way. Do you think the air is a little softer? You don't think it's. No, no, I mean, the air might be a little bit more softer and everything. Like, not just boxing, but basketball, football. Like you go to all the sports and it's all as softer than it was back in the day. Yeah. All the sports, all probably because of hyper regulation. Yeah. You know, don't hit him there. Don't don't. Can't do that. You can't do this. And yeah, back in the day, you, I thought your eyeball fall out. They still, you're still fighting. Yeah. I mean, now everyone's concerned about this legal issue and that legal issue. Yeah. Um, now, if you could train one up and come one coming up one up and coming up and fighting, what qualities would you look for first in that fighter? For me, I look for the, the mindset of the heart because you can train all the other stuff, but train the mindset and train the heart is something that's hard to train. Like you have to really be like a psychiatrist when you're coaching for that. And that's the main ingredient. You know, you have the Fires like Majorca and in my down or whatever they just throw in punch for mark, wherever, but they have the mindset that I'm going to beat you. I'm coming to get you. And they became world champion with that, which is not having skills. Like really that type of skills at all. So you have that mindset and we'll call the dog or whatever. Then that's what I will want to see is what kind of how fast you see that. How well you put them in the ring with certain people and see what happens. I mean, I seen that with Jay Paul. They had a little dog at the one, you know, I took him down the street to able Sanchez gym and threw him in there with some undefeated professionals. And, you know, they got him in the body and, you know, got the best of him a little bit, blade nose, and he just kept going. I saw, okay, he got some dog in him. Like he, you know, he not only can he, you know, this shit, he can take it a little bit too. So he's not, but he does mind taking it. He don't mind taking and giving. So that's why I say, you know, Jake Paul, you know, he does thing. He's a great fight. That's why he's doing what he did. It could be, I wouldn't say set up or it could be a little different, whatever. I don't know what they're doing, but I do know that he is a real fighter and he can't fight. Yeah. Whatever it is he's doing, they continue. You know, he's making money. He's bringing glory back to the game. He's bringing glory back to the fight game. So whatever it is he's doing continue. Yeah. Couple last questions. Now, when people talk about legacy, which, you know, there's so much legacy discussion in boxing, what do you hope your name stands for when they tell the story of the sugar shame Mosley era? Oh man. I mean, I just hope that they look at me as an, you know, honorable fighter and that a fighter that was really passionate about the sport of boxing. I really love the sport of boxing. I'm really passionate about it. And everybody knows I'm a nice guy that, you know, I, I'm the type of person that want the best for the next person or whatever. I'm not even if he, even if he beats me or he's whatever, I want to see him do well. I'm, I guess you could say I'm the type of guy that wants to see the next person well and I feel happy about that. Yeah. Love that mentality. Got a couple last questions. One is about your family. You know, you've raised, raised four beautiful children. One of them up, up and coming champion. Yeah. Now you've instilled a level of grit, a level of ferociousness, a winning mentality in your children, despite the fact that they grew up with a silver spoon, you know, compared to you. How did you instill that, that, that mindset into your kids, given all the, you know, this worldly tribulation, all, all the, all the things that's, this world just sways you when you got money. Your kids are gonna grow up poor. Right. I mean, I didn't necessarily grow up poor either. I was a middle class, middle class kid as well. Um, my father worked and my mother worked during dynamics, my father worked for the DPS office. So, uh, I had a car when I was like 14 years old driving, you know, uh, green BMW, I mean, uh, a green bug. So I wasn't necessarily in the ghetto. I was middle class. But the thing that change and that to my kids, my son, whatever is that it to be the, it's not because you have the money or we have whatever you have to really want to be the best at whatever it is. I was very competitive. And like my son Shane, he's very competitive and he wants to win. That's a matter of who you are. So he wants to win. And that's the key ingredient. You know, you can, yeah, you want to win because you need money or you need, you know, food on the table, whatever. Yeah, that's one way. But the other way is, you know, like I want to be the best. I want to be the great. And I want to be able to take care of my family or whatever. So they don't have to struggle. My son kind of adapted that mentality. Take care of his family and want to be the best and what, and it set the goal for himself and not wavering from that goal. So that type of mentality, that type of, I guess that, that type of, you know, thing that I gave him that I installed him, that was the type of mentality I started him that he's seen. He grew up watching me do it. So now he's going to do the same thing that I did. He wants to be worth, he wants to be great. He wants to be better. And I'm happy for God bless God bless. I'm better. I'm happy about that. One last question. And I'll ask this to everybody. When you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you? Oh man, I don't know. I, if I learned all my lessons, um, I believe that God knows my heart and knows that my light and that I am a helper. I'm not, I'm not a taker. I'm a helper of, uh, of everybody. Like I'm a helper of the, of earth, of people mankind. And I'm only going to, I'm only enhancing. And, um, yeah, I'm going to get, I believe, give rewards for that. You know, you will, you will hear it. You're one of the sweetest dudes ever. And guys, sugar shame, Mosley, the legend of people want to connect with you. Or chat with you. How did they find you? Yeah, you can find me on Instagram. Shane Mosley, uh, I think it's with the blue check and, um, yeah, I'm coming up the, my different websites, maybe pretty soon. Um, and now I'll put that on my Instagram. So that's how you can find me is from the Instagram. Perfect guys. Sugar shame, Mosley, seven time world champion. Thank you guys for tuning in. God bless.
