#607 - We’re Talking About Current Stuff! Ft. Hosts of God's Country

This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey guys, welcome to the episode. And before we get into the current stuff, I want to bring in Dan and Reed Isbell, who have the God's Country podcast, which I'm a fan of. I'm mostly a fan of the episode that you guys did with me. My favorite episode, the one you guys did. I watch it every week. It was our least performing. Didn't matter. All the views are from me. So perfect. Before the guys in here. So you guys check out the God's Country podcast. These guys here are very talented songwriters. Did you guys ever try to do? I'm hoping I'm not insulting you guys, but I'm not saying, but almost I don't care, right? Cause I like, I know you guys, did you guys try hard to the artist thing? Wait, this is a kind of funny story. Okay. I can take a second. So there was a plan. There was a plan. So I had been in town and my buddy Jonathan Singleton. We had this scheme. We were like, dude, my brother, we figured it out. We really great singer. We'll write all the songs, produce all the stuff and he can go do the road stuff that we don't want to do. He's miserable. He don't know who he is. He has no idea. We'll just burn him out. Right. And so he doesn't have an identity yet. We wrote a bunch of songs and started working with scooter, Caruso and really like building this and built a five or six song EP that was like kind of bulletproof, right? So we start mixing and mastering. And in the meantime, we booked some shows. We start playing some shows. He's like, we be in the band. I'm like, I don't really want to do that, but maybe for a few times, you know, so we go do this run, we come back and then he calls and he's like, Hey, we got, I got a couple of acoustic shows next week. You good to go. And I was like, dude, I'm going to deer camp with dad. Like, what are you talking about? We kicked you off. You're started like, he was like, do what? Y'all cooking rib eyes? I was like, yeah. It's a week. It's the bow opener. Like we're going. I was like, I think it's going to be a songwriter. He was like, I'm canceling shows. If y'all think y'all are going to deer camp without me, it's never happening. End. That was into the artist career. Yeah. I mean, like. Reb, a deer, deer camping and rib eyes, man. And dude, I always was like, I was, I was on the fence of like being a being an artist, being a songwriter. And I, and I, and I moved to town, obviously with the plan to be an artist, but fell in love with writing songs, especially when I was writing with Jonathan and him at the gate. And so when you came here, though, you thought it was going to be artist because that's probably what you knew. Yeah. I mean, all I knew how to do was sing. Oh, he used to get those church ladies worked. Oh, I'll be saying the same song two and three times to the end of a service. He, he always had the voice. I can only imagine. Can't sing that. Can't. I'll get fine. Yeah. Necessity kick us off for. What are we? Sorry. I can't only. AI probably shuts that down too. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to catch the mail. I'm not even imagine. That's all right. Yeah. You can speak it out. Yeah. I can't. Even. Well, see, we have, we have full creative control in our podcast, so we can do whatever we want. You still can't sing songs though, because you get sued. We sing songs all the time. But no, it's kind of worse. Yeah. So like every episode of sing songs. I won't say that out loud. We used to do that too. They shut us down. Dang. Okay. Maybe we just cut that part out. Yeah. No, no. Good for you guys. If you want to hear songs saying illegally, God's country podcast. We wrote a bunch of them. It's covers. Does that matter? Uh, even worse. Actually. Yeah. Yeah. There's some blanket lessons out there that covers that stuff. Can we just leave? Can we just get out of here? Can we just start over? Well, what's funny about that story is that's kind of what Brian Wilson did with the Beach Boys. He stayed back and wrote and got everything ready and sent the band out. And so the Beach Boys will be traveling all over touring way back in the day. Brian Wilson's like, I don't want to go tour. I'll let them go do concert. I'll take my cut. And then when they come back, I'll hop in. But I've got everything ready to go. It's kind of the gig, kind of the best gig, truthfully. And then there were no stakes involved in that story. Well, yeah, there's probably some. These are probably not great stakes. I mean, we're talking about big, wiggly type stuff. I love the idea, though, of creating something that can go out and make money. Well, you not having to do it like musical. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. Like five or six years ago, I probably told you guys the story. But me, Nicole Gallion, who's a massive writer and Ross Koperman, I went and I said, Hey, I have this idea for a hologram artist that opens for like five, five tours at once. And I said, let's write songs. And so we created this group called Neon People and we went and we wrote every day and recorded all these songs, mastered them. Nicole was singing it. We were manipulating the voice a little bit. And our idea was we can have somebody be the baby opener on like three or four tours and there were great songs and very cheap. They will split everything that comes up. But yeah, so all the streams, we split all the money of the touring revenue. And then Nicole ended up being a president of record label. And she had to like quit. She's like, I can't because I was like integrity. This kind of goes against what the heck? What? We had Neon People rolling. Neon People was reading, we'll jump it off the fence to be a songwriter. It was. I don't do the artist thing. You guys grew up where? West Tennessee. Right where Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee meet. The county above that's Hardin County. Where was town then? Memphis. Savannah. Georgia. Tennessee. Oh, but Florence is where we took our dates, you know what I'm saying? Or car or car at 30 minutes away. So then where would concerts come that was closest? Well, it's interesting because we're kind of from a melting pot of like a lot of different influences right there. You had Rockabilly from Jackson, Tennessee, Blues from Memphis. You had obviously Swaggy type stuff from it came out of Memphis and also North, Miss, South Mississippi, Delta Blues from South Mississippi. And then you had country music from Nashville and then you had the Swampers and the Funk stuff from Florence. So all of that kind of blended and our dads are Baptist preacher. The obviously Bible Belt. There's a ton of, you know, Christian music going on there, Ham's going on too. So you got that influence. Could you guys have secular music though? Growing up, we could watch TNN. You'd have to go upstairs and turn it down if you watch TRL. Yeah, you had to do a channel search until it. So you didn't get to go to real concerts like big pop culture concerts. I mean, my first concert was Billy Joel Elton John. And it was awesome. How old were you? 18. Dude, our parents weren't like, like I hear stories now, especially talking to people like that's all they did when they were little. It was like their parents took them on the road to go see Alabama or go see, you know, Grateful Dead or whoever it is. And like our parents were never. No, they liked music. They liked music, but they just. We just. A lot of work. It's a lot of work. And it's expensive to take a bunch of kids to go see shows. So like we had, we saw a ton of like quartets come through the church though, man. Like, like all those, all those, all those like traveling bands that we come through and do and doing like the church stuff. We went to all those because they had all come through our church quartets. Hope. Yeah. Like Harmony Gospel Quartets. Yeah. And you two end up in music. I think our mom would have loved if we had been a gospel singing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like doing the thing, but it just for me, I loved the storytelling aspect of country music. And my dad's a killer storyteller too. Like I've seen him hold court at dear camps and churches and pavilions and parking lots with random P McDonald's lines, just captivating these people with stories. And I think that's what I always wanted to be that. And so I kind of wrote poems and things like that. And then I didn't want anybody to know because that was seen as effeminate in my small town stuff. And so then I realized if I get girls, if I put those words and stuff to music, so I learned how to play guitar. And from there, we already knew how to harmonize because of the church and the in the in the singing groups we were in. And it just kind of went ban ban ban ban had a big ban at Mississippi State started getting some looks in Nashville didn't know it, but we were getting the run up here and just ended up falling in love with being a songwriter. I also hated the road. I'm just not a road guy at all. In your hometown, Jeff, Pizza Hut. Hell yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We were talking about it recently how I don't see any standalone pizza huts. Like we talked about in the building, the shape building. Yeah. Yeah, like the the Pizza Hut building. Yeah. And you know the shape of a Pizza Hut building to see one because sometimes you'll see a dentist's office in a Pizza Hut building. You're like, that used to be a pizza. It doesn't matter. Yeah. You can dress it up however you want to. There were personal pants cooked in that. Dude, what a great what a great what a great marketing scheme is to make your building one of a kind. Yeah, except when you want to sell it. So when you sell it kind of works. Yeah, then it's well, if you're Pizza Hut, though, I mean, did you guys do bucket ever? Yes, dude. No, he said he didn't do it. We did accelerated reader, which is kind of the same thing. I remember it swapping with when I was in bucket. Let's practice. Pizza Hut didn't want to pay the give away the free pizzas anymore then. I don't I promise you if there was a if there was a program where you got personal pants for free, I would have been in that. Bro, I'm still wearing those personal pants. I read like a song. No, me too. Like in May 1st, it launched back at Pizza Hut this year, where they're doing bucket again. Oh, and for me, can anybody do it? Can I do it? If there was an adult, I'd be doing it right. I'd be reading Johnny Cash, the life in the lyrics right now, Johnny. Get 40 points for two personal pants. It was such a big deal in my school, like socio economically. We were a very poor school. Right. In areas that didn't have money, you could read and actually provide dinner. It was a it was a culture changer for us and I love to read. But I can read two books a week for sure. Yeah. And that was not only dinner for my sister and I. It was. Are you telling you provided for your family by reading? I am saying that I'm not going to laugh at that. I know it's crazy. I think I want to laugh in a good way. But I think it's awesome. It's awesome. When I saw it was coming back, I was like, dang, I don't think people understand for kids that didn't have anything. No, I wouldn't have never understood that. That's crazy. It's because I would you could read a book, take quiz on it back in the day. And then you get your personal pan that what the cost was, though, gas going into town because we didn't have a pizza hut. So we had to go into Hot Springs. Yeah. So we're driving. But two personal pan pizzas would be because it was four pieces, three pieces for dinner, one for breakfast the next day. That that that was two. Come on. Two meals for each of us. Absolutely. Dude, that's awesome. I love that. Never considered. We've never our town never like I've never we've never been in that position, you know, with our with our family or anything like that. And honestly, I really never saw that in our town in that way. But that thinking about it that way is, man, that's awesome. I don't remember you specifically talking about that's one. I mean, that's the part of your foundation is you're very you're very food driven. If you don't have food, how can you learn? My favorite episode of the God's Country podcast. Yeah, one of the worst episodes. But yeah, you're performing the most me. For most most impactful. That's what matters, right? Especially in our industry. Do you when you guys book guess something that I deal with is like I can get a really good guess. But if they're doing like nine things at once, it doesn't do that well. Because what do you mean? Nine things that let's say I'll just pick an artist off my wall. So I'm not picking. Yeah, I'm going to say John Mayer because John Mayer is one of my favorite artists of all time. If I have a man and we do a great hour together. But he's also doing nine other podcasts around the same time like a media tour. It's so watered down that even a great guest is not going to get the numbers that the great guest should get if the great guest is doing so many shows at once. You mean like ours and yours? Well, they're on the same level, but I'm just saying like if they were. What? What? Which direction? What charts are we talking about? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Do you guys ever see that? Like you'll have somebody that you're like, man, this is going to be awesome. And the interview is fantastic, but they're doing so many things at once that it possibly doesn't reflect in the numbers. We kind of have to say from the jump, hey, man, we're not really like your media training guys, like you can be here as free in here as you want to be. I feel like that does that helps open some. Yeah, but you can still see see someone down in this. Well, to see some of them still, they don't know how they don't. It's just so ingrained in them and trained in them that they go straightforward. Like it's the it's the first thing they do is go toward media training. And I get that because like you see the you see the clips and the stories or the videos or whatever that that we clip and put on mostly, honestly, like the ones that hit and pop off are like the kind of the sporadic, like the thing that wasn't planned, the story that wasn't planned or just like the authentic realness, you know, of storytelling. Those usually do the best for us. But I can I think I think that we're probably falling the same boat is like because most of the days when you catch those artists, they're it's media days podcasting. Yeah. So they're doing four after yours. And if it's a fan of theirs, who you'd like to come to your podcast, they're possibly going to go listen to their person, do any of the four. Sure. And so it just tends to be water itself down. If I have somebody in that's doing a bunch of interviews in a bunch of places because they have a TV show coming out or something. Right. I really got to do that for like my own people because they're everywhere. And you got to find a way to do it different, right? Like, like, do you have a do you're like, man, I need a certain I need a specific game I need to play with this, this, this artist or this guest to make it interesting or spur it along or anything like that. Like, do you go into it preparing anything like that way? You could do them in Spanish. If that's the case. Dope. Just hit them with that. Just turn them on, Puerto Rico. I feel. That's what that's a good question. No, I talk a lot in mine. I think sometimes people will be like, Hey, why do you talk so much when you're interviewing people? It's like. It is my show too. Amen. Like, and honestly, I knew an interesting cat. I can bring on the biggest guests. And this is something that we've seen with with so much data. I can bring on the greatest A list guest and still the episodes that perform the best for me or when I have no guests at all. That's the weirdest part is that we'll get so pumped because we have somebody come in, let's say it's John Mayer and John Mayer comes in and crushes it. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do a solo episode the next time. And it's only going to be, you know, fun stuff. Book it. I'm talking about book it and it's and that will perform so much higher. Yeah. And that's a weird thing. So I didn't like, well, I'm just going to talk with them then. Yeah, we get popped a lot with, do you guys sing with every guest that comes on? But you're singers. That's the thing. Yeah. Have they not heard about the band you tried to start with your brother? That's the whole entire point of this. Yeah. And that's like me too. Like I'm not an interviewer. I'm somebody who likes to talk with people. You guys are real life successful songwriters and singers. So of course you're going to be singing with people. I mean, that's kind of our stick too. It's like we don't, it doesn't really feel like an interview to us ever. Like, and that's what I think. Sometimes it feels like. Well, I mean, there's a certain couple that come to mind, but I'm saying like, it's still people ask me like, man, do you enjoy the podcast? And I'm still genuinely saying, yeah, I really do because it feels like I'm having a conversation with somebody for the first time. And it really does. Like it doesn't feel like work when it. And I know that's cliche or whatever, but sitting down and having a conversation and getting to know about somebody is it doesn't feel like work to me still. There are times and days that it does, but ours are not interviews. It doesn't feel like it feels like it's more of a conversation. The two times it feels like work to me is if I'm exhausted and that sucks. And I feel bad for the person who's coming in. I end up doing a better job because I'm aware that I'm exhausted. It's kind of funny how that works because I'm like, I do not feel good. I'm so tired and it kind of focuses me. Level. Yeah. So that sucks if I'm not feeling good. And two, man, if people come in so media trained and there are artists in town who I like as people, but they are so trained and big artists. So I can think of, I'm not going to say their name because I'm friends with them. That like they have their stories down to beats and it's not good for an hour long. Yeah. No. A conversation podcast. Let me ask you this. What actually happens in media training? Like we obviously are not famous enough for anybody to care about training. I've never done media training. Okay. So I've led sports athletes in media training because they get interviewed and they have no background in talking to a microphone. Sure. So I've gone to universities and walked people through media training, meaning if you don't know what to say, here's where you go. And you're trying to teach some people, athletes, especially the most cliche things to say that mean nothing. Athletes are just trying to exist. I'm just grateful to be here. And say nothing and get off. My teammate. They will meet. Coach has no eye and team. Coach has prepared. That's it. That's why you hear the same things over and over. Yeah. And those guys know how to ball, dude. Like, and they don't know how to talk and they don't have to. No, they're giants. Because they're so freaking good at their job. And they're giants. Well, yeah. But that's what I'm saying. That's what they're jockeys. And then they're not giants. But there's going to be a microphone in their face and they've got to say something. They got to say something. I've worked with some new artists like New Artist in Town, secretly. Not not. I mean, I'm not hiding from it, but I'll get a call from a friend who's like a manager being like, hey, you just teach this person how to be trained, but not sound trained. And that's just not getting yourself in trouble. Like, that's all media training is now. Boy, there's some that just can't help it. Yeah. But I think some of the people getting in trouble are trained to get in trouble. Like it's it's purposeful, obviously. Oh, for like clickbait kind of stuff. For sure. And they're smart about it. Oh, go viral moments. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah, I just thought they were dumb. Some are that. Well, that's that way, too. Yeah, I think that's true, too. But the hour long interviews are almost impossible with people that come in with an absolute agenda. Yeah, it's pretty easy to pick up to. It's pretty easy to pick up on. We've had a few lately that I'm like, oh, yeah. OK, have it have the floor. It's not really go through. Go through your bullet points and get it over with. And if I feel that on one of ours, we're about to we're going to exhaust what you want. It would almost be like me talking about God's country that airs every Tuesday on what was it? Anywhere? Anywhere you get it. Search your podcast. But that happens. Yeah, like this Tuesday when Avery Anna's coming on. Yeah, she was great. She was awesome. Good. Anyway, back to you. Your thing. Yeah, we don't like two months ago. It was great. People can scroll up and see that. Yeah, she's grown a lot and done a lot of cool things. She's been on yours. Yeah, probably a lot of new stuff. She actually took a hiatus from podcast because she hated you so much. Oh, no. Everybody stops. And now she's back on ours. Dang. Because ours numbers were so big that she had to come back. Well, when she was sitting in here, she was like, this is the last one I want to do because if I have to do freaking God's country, that means I have fallen off. That's true. So. Oh, no. I know. That's really funny. Maybe songwriters go to die there too. Hang tight. The Bobby cast will be right back. And we're back on the Bobby cast. Did you lose any? It's going to follow us from the big purge. Oh, did we read about that? Did we lose any? Jones is on that. Do we lose any? No bots for us, but we're it's authentic over there, bro. And we could try to get lost like 12,000. Did you? Yeah. And these bots have to exist. They have to follow a bunch of people. Yeah. And I was looking at some of the folks. So you don't. So it's not like people are going to pay in for these bots. And then when the bots get gone, they're gone. These bots are actually just just fake accounts that are following people. Both. So there are ways to buy. The reason I would never buy is because you're going to spend money and they're going to wipe it away at some point. Eventually, they're going to wipe it anyway. That's right. I feel sad too to buy followers. It feels real sad. I was telling him, do you remember when they did this? They had the big thing on TikTok where people were losing their stuff. And there were some people literally committing suicide. That's their job. Oh, that's their living followers, dude. That was crazy to me, man. That was crazy. Is that real? Yeah, man. When they had the big TikTok, I remember they were going to cancel TikTok. The big TikTok thing. When you say the big TikTok thing, I don't know. I'm not very versed in this. Yes. Keep passing. Keep passing. Please drill with these questions. I'm telling you, I remember seeing a video of a dude crying saying, I have X amount of followers and now I have this because of this, I've lost all my sponsorships. I don't know how I'm going to feed my family. I'm not saying that guy did it. But I'm just saying there, there are some people that have built legit businesses. Gosh, man. Out of those media. That's terrifying. And then you lose them. You can buy. I would never because that's just throwing away money. It's temper, it's a temporary investment. Hopefully people see you have these followers, get your clout. You get to be on other things. Inflated. Yeah. But there are bots that just follow big accounts as well because they have to prove they're a real person and you can find a bot real easy if they're fall, if they have, they're not following anybody and they're just posting like crazy. So there are strategies to create bots as well where you don't have to buy them. So in the biggest accounts, get the most bot follows. Not even purchased. Oh, wow. So that's why like Taylor lost five million. Five million. How many she have? 300 million million. Is that more people than are in the world? I just pulled the one. I'm just kidding. That will be funny. If there were. That's how you know they're. That's 10 billion. There are 50 billion people following. Kendall Jenner lost 3.7 million. Selena Gomez lost 6 million. Beyonce lost 5 million. Bieber lost 4 million. Are these like, yeah. Like water weight, right? If I can even say I dropped 18 pounds. That's funny. Go to that's it. You'd be like, hell yeah, man. Congratulations. But if I said, well, it's I actually just took this hydroxy cut sponsorous. And I and and because of that, it's just a bunch of water. What you'd be like, well, that these bots are water weight. So yeah, I didn't know if you guys lost any with your wildly successful podcast. I mean, I honestly, bro, if we did, I wouldn't even know. We're barely treading water here, buddy. You know, I mean, I mean, like in life, general, not just the podcast. It's doing great. We have a zero time. I was like, wait, it is to check up on the follows. But yeah, we did research it just so we would kind of do what you're talking about. Yeah, I lost between 10 and 15,000. But do you do right sitting here today? Is that going to affect you? No, I don't care. Do I care? Do you care? I expect those bot. I expect that to happen. Those flushes. Because they happen about every year. Oh, a year. They happen once a year. Yeah, about every year. One of those that happens. This one wasn't that bad for me. So and I have like on my personal account, I was getting real close to 1.3 million. I was at 1.2 and I was like, oh, I'm about to hit 1.3. They flushed me right before 1.3. So that was a little frustrating. But I don't. Social media is not social as much anymore, meaning. It's not who you follow as much as it's more of what you're interested in. So algorithms feed us the stuff all the time. More so what we're interested in, what we're looking at, more than who we follow. It used to be back in the day. You follow a bunch of people. You're just going to see what all your friends are doing. Yeah, you can follow everybody. And that's fine. But if your friends aren't posting things that you would generally be interested in, you're going to see it very little. And your algorithm is going to feed you things that you like that you don't even follow. Very true. So it's more like a follower media than a social media. Yeah, yeah. That's nice. Was I hurt? No, was I a little frustrated? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, something about buying them back. That's how I buy them. I buy them back to get even. I've got you. I got you bots. Bot people. Is it the bots you're getting? I don't know who it is. There are these services and I don't know if they're true that they say they can get you organic followers. That just feels like bots, though. I mean, you can buy streams. I mean, people know that. Like there's this guy. See, I don't know how to do that. I could show you how to buy bots. Well, let's just say I know a guy that knows a guy. And it is literally, I can't tell you the exact number, but from the judging by the video, I was shown thousands of phones plugged into chargers. Oh, I see those on TikTok. And he goes to a computer and do, do, do, boop and all of those things just to me. Playing the same song. Playing the same song. And they run that Joker for... So you can pay the week. You can pay this guy X amount of money to run your... $100,000. I can guarantee you 100,000 streams or whatever, a million, whatever the exponential, you know, factor is. But yeah, ultimately, you just send a check and they, whatever you pay is what they want. Is that going on with PDs anymore still? I have no idea. I don't do music. I have nothing to do with music. And I would say no. Like a pay-all thing? Is that still happening? Oh, no, God, no. For radio? They want, no. They watch that stuff. And I'm not involved in doing nothing with music and radio, except if I want to have somebody up and play or if I want to like... But my career is not based off of music anymore. It's just the content that I'm creating for the most part. So you're not doing the radio the morning show? Yeah. But I just talk about me. Like I was talking about earlier, I was talking about me the whole time, or bringing artists to guests and... Sure. Let them talk about you. I don't play music. Music's played. I don't pick it. If I want to like play a song, I can. But if I was to kick you like 10K, would you play... Oh, God, no, it'd be worth it. 100K? No, literally. I can play this game. How much can I make on a ghetto-like stuff? I love the how much game. The how much game. Like what would it take you to do this? No shit. They are, they crack down on that stuff so hard. But I saw the FCC was investigating the streaming services because of all of the manipulation of streams. The difference is though, the streaming services aren't public. Correct. Broadcast is public. They got to crack down on that because they own that. That's the government. Got to. But you're right. You can buy so many streams. You can buy looks, but what they do is they feed it in there for you. So it's not really, they're not forcing anybody to watch it. Streams, they can fake streams, but it works because if there's an artist and somebody's pitching them for, you know, to open or... Sure. They're like, yeah, they've got four, they had four million streams last month. You're like, what the... really? Does not matter if they were real or not. You're not gonna investigate it? You're not gonna absolutely throw no out to it. So it's an investment. That's the game, man. It's an investment to buy streams. And I'm not saying you should do this, but it's an investment to buy streams. Then you get streams, then you get work, and hopefully that work that you're getting pays off the investment that you just did to get the streams. And picks up the streams. Which then picks up the streams. That's right. You don't have to have fake streams anymore. And in the end, it's if you believe the artist is good enough to actually get streams, if you run the process, you invest in that. Yikes. If you don't have integrity. I'd like to say that. At the end. Yeah, yeah, because like I get the game. For sure I get the game. That is the game, right? That's the game. That's bottom of the seventh. You're down one the game right there. The inside ball of all these things is what kind of blows my mind. Like we had a best, we have a best buddy that pitched in the majors for a long time. And for a long time, I thought baseball. Don't just say pitch. He won a side young. Okay. You think he's a man. He's a man. J.P.P.P. He's a great guy. He plays music too, doesn't he? He does. Yeah. Yeah. But he, when we really became buddies with him and he explained to us what's really going on in baseball, it isn't even what you think baseball is. It's not what you're watching. Like I assumed, and I was a player. I played my entire, like, you know, high school, middle school, whatever little league. The game to me was seeing the ball come out of the hand, deciding on what that pitch was, and doing my best to hit the ball. That is not the game in the major leagues. The ball's moving so fast that these cats are choosing how they're going to swing before he ever even winds up. Yeah. Based on, based on, based on, based on, tons of information of previous pitches. They're sitting on pitches based on. I have to count any habits down, up, absolutely. Last pitch? Yeah. Last time we faced them. No base runners, how many outs are in? It's wild. Yeah, absolutely. There's always, I feel like the older I get, the more I realize there's like inside ball on everything. And the more knowledge there is about everything, the more inside ball is created. 100%. Yeah. It's happened with music now, but it has been happening at every level and every generation, there's a group of guys like us or women sitting around going, can you believe how crazy it is now? Oh, dude. That has never stopped. Absolutely, man. And there's going to be people in 20 years doing the same thing with low holograms, doing little hologram podcasts. Yeah, yeah, I'll be old news, dude. Can you believe how crazy it is now? People do. It was so good. Back in 2026, it was so easy. All you had to do is buy streams. And now it's like, well, you got to call your psychic. So it's an odd, it's odd because you would just think artist is good. Yes. Artist plays and gets discovered because they are good. People then follow. Come on. There are great artists now that were discovered because of people running the schemes. There were great artists now. There are great artists that only have been broken because of people doing what we're talking about. Ain't no doubt. Ain't no doubt. Ain't no doubt. And that doesn't mean they're any less. That was just a financial strategy. That was their road. Yep. Yeah, man. And so, and if it were me, I'd do it for me. Like if I were an artist and I had the money, I'd buy streams. Oh, if you were an artist and you could pump your stuff up to get to another level, you would. Yeah, because if I felt like I was really that good, I would. Right. Oh, yeah. And that's your lifelong dream. If it's really your passion and really you believe you can really do it, absolutely, you're going to go to all cost to make it work. And if that's a viable option, then that's a viable option. Most of the time it's not an option though, right? Like most of the guys come in here and I can go drop 250 grand to get my song. Is it that much? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. You're the expert. You're the one that has the data factory. It turns out it's running the phone. I don't pay for anything. You're told on yourself, you're the one running the scheme. Check my text. I'm clean. I swear. It is very much a game inside a game though. And A&R is a whole different world. And, you know, they're like put out a song 72 times and only play a clip of it. And if one of them catches, that's good. But now you can hire these companies. I think Goose, the band, was, they were just in a story and I can look this up where people are like, oh, they're industry plants because they had paid all this money to this company to clip feed them. And that's not industry plant. That's them just choosing a strategy. That's paying. Don't we do that? That's paying. Can we pay somebody to clip our stuff? Different. Oh. There's a, there's something. I mean, I can't do it again. That would be your paying one person to do the editing and the clipping. I'm going to give you an example of something here. Tuesday, every Annapist. Oh my God. There is a service. Don't take that money off my account. They're following us. Different companies that you can hire. Yeah. Yeah. And let's say if I wanted to do it. It costs. Are we doing something legal here? Oh, for sure. This is legal. That's why I don't feel like the Goose industry plant story is fair to them. They just chose a strategy. Absolutely. I heard that as the Goose industry comma plant and I was like, there's a Goose in. You hunt too much. Yeah. Remove. Sorry. Get out of the woods. Come back to music. Comma industry plant. Goose is a rock band. Got it. Great name. There are companies that you can pay 10 grand a month to. They will take your stuff and in that 10 grand a month, not only will they send it to be to these influencer accounts to put on and organically talk about it. Yeah. They they create all of these basically bot accounts and they start loading up all your clips all over the place. Now, because it's not social media, it's interest media. You start to catch all these bot accounts that are playing. You're seeing it because if you ever see like something cool and you're like the accounts 422, 68, 3 red, red, red, you're like, oh, that's not a real account, but it does have 90s wrestling. I love 90s wrestling. Yeah, I've seen that. Mine's always cop cams. What? Cam? Cop cam. Cop. Puh. You know where a cop goes into like. Yeah, puh. Chicken husband. What's funny about cop? Cop. Cop. Puh. With a P. Cop cam. Puh. Puh. How other way would I say cop? Just keep talking. Anyway, so what when Tennessee vids 3463443 says send me this in a DM, it's not a real person. Not a real person. Isn't that weird when they're like, can I share this? Yeah. Because that's just a bot. Just bot. Doing that. At the very bottom. The other interesting. This is why I don't even mess with any of that. Oh, yeah. You have to let this totally be dedicated to that. This is awful, bro. Because me and Jumps carry the weight of what you don't do. Thank you, because this sounds terrible. It is. You don't do it? Hell no. He don't do nothing. Yeah, right. I don't do social media. Like, I hate it. I hate it. I don't. And it stresses me out and she'll fill me in if I need to be filled in. But I don't. Oh, so do we. I don't get it too. I don't get it there. You gotta do it. You don't do it. You do it because you're addicted to it. I do it because if I don't do it, then Jumps has to post all her stuff by herself. How much you posting, bro? Maybe once a year. Slow. But the captions, I have real notes. Those are, there are people that you can hire because the captions are so important. The captions and the hooks of the video that are so important that that is their specific job. And I will say there is absolute value to it. Sure. Just captioning videos. That's crazy. And making sure the first three seconds has a hook to it. And if you, it can be the greatest video ever. And if there's not something that creates engagement that makes people want to comment on it, it won't be seen because the Instagrams, TikToks of the world, they are basing what they're sharing on the engagement, the comments, the shares, to share to other people. So that's an art. It's an absolute art for people to do captions and clips. I also think it's an art to maintain the integrity and sound like the voice of whoever is featured in the clips. Like that's the thing that me and jump from between each other so much because yes, she's doing all that, right? But like if it doesn't sound like a post from us, our voice, it doesn't do as well. What about a post that doesn't sound like your voice that does great or a post that sounds like your voice that does terrible? Which would you rather have? The great one. Yeah. But it's a tough thing to, it for sure is tough. But yeah, I realize that sometimes it doesn't need to sound like it's from my voice. Depending on who I'm talking to. Like I had a labor and delivery nurse on, my wife just had a baby and I'm so interested in that world now. Congrats by the way. It's awesome. Thanks. It was a big gift, guess-wise. Thank you. Yeah. No with the baby. I got it. Yeah. Wait, what just happened? Nothing. But I have to trust my people. Yeah, you have to. You have to. There was a rocky road there for a little bit of the man and then you hone it in, you know? And now it's, we completely trust our people. The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast. What about the, it's called Blue Dot Fever. Have you guys been seeing this? Where, so Blue Dot Fever is, if you go to the map, let's say if it's Ticketmaster or wherever it is, all the Blue Dots are seats that haven't been sold. Do you ever go to that? You ever see, I'm familiar? I'm familiar. Co-cause like when I would, when I was doing a lot of stand-up, I would look at the freaking dots. On your shows. On your shows. Oh my God. Interesting. As soon as Tickets 1 on sale. Interesting. I'm online watching going, I wonder if today's the day that nobody likes me anymore. Like I was putting so much of my worth into that. It's kind of like reading the comments a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. These people aren't choosing not to spend, that's money. No doubt. It's more expected. Yeah, no doubt. That's the way I feel. A lot of these shows are getting canceled. Pussycat Dolls get canceled. Their tour get canceled. Megan Trainor's tour canceled. We saw some early post-molonjelly roll stadium shows get canceled. And they're calling it Blue Dot Fever because you go and look at the map and there's so many Blue Dots that you're like, oh, this is not going to sell enough for them to make their money back. They can't, bro. Not in today's day. Why do you think it's weird because the Wallens and the Combs is, are still doing freaking stadiums. And that's where I think I'm at with it is like, I think stadiums could still, like, I think stadiums are still, if you're an act that can fill up a stadium. But there's not, there's not many. I think people think they are that act. Yeah, well, look, man, we got to be honest about the factors that determine that, right? Like availability of, I mean, look, man, my best, our best buddies, Luke Combs, everybody in the world knows that by now. He played in Knoxville last weekend. My wife was like, we should go. I'm like, yeah, let's check out the prices. And everybody gets crazy. Well, it wasn't the ticket. It's the Airbnb's and the hotels. And you ruined my, my story here. So, so I appreciate you. It's the God's country pocket. I appreciate you cut mine off. So I was talking to, she's, she goes, oh, yes, this hotel room's $1,100. And I was like, forget that. It was, it comes at his barn, making player a few songs for our kids and go to the house. Like it's, it's cheaper to do that than to pay three nights for that. So we completely wrote it off, which in turn had me had a conversation. My best friend in life is Luke Combs guitar player. And he said that even some of the, so they get the dates, right? They get the dates like a year in advance. Some of the band's family was booking Airbnb's in Knoxville because they knew that was, that the show was coming. And then Airbnb or whatever the thing was, was canceling their stuff and rebooking, putting it available for four times as much. And his argument was everybody's whining about ticket master and how they got price gouges. He said, they ought to check some of these hotels and Airbnb's doing that same thing. Cause everybody in those towns are doing that. And I think that contributes to, to lack of, it's a fortune to go to these shows. We'll get into a plane, plane ticket, gas, if you're driving the ticket to the concerts going up. I mean, and problem is, yeah, it was these, some of these acts can't, it's not justifiable to, to do some of the venues that they're doing. And I don't know that, I don't know that most of them will go down and venue size to make it work. I think too, it's a bit of, you, Mike and I would always say your eyes are bigger than your belly is. And I think that's with management and agents more than it is the artist. Where you have managers and agents going, we're, we're going to try to do a stadium. We're going to try to do arena. It's a million percent. We're going to risk it. We think it's close, but we think you can do it. And then when it doesn't, it doesn't look bad on the manager or the agent. No. It is kind of embarrassing for the artist. 100%. And the artist just wants to do shows. Don't care. I think what it does get, I think it gives an opportunity to be creative and figure out a way to do it a new way and, and more intimate and like really connect with fans instead of just going up there and standing on the stage and playing in front of 40,000 people and never, never engaging with them. I think it's got to, I think there's a real, real opportunity for somebody to engage in a way that, they can do to make money as well as in a different way. You may do the opportunity there is what you're saying. Right. Tickets are so expensive. Dude. Yeah, they're so expensive. It's, it ain't the ticket dude. It's, it's, it's, it's the trip. It's the weekend. It's also the ticket. I agree with you fully and, but like dynamic ticket pricing. I get, I get it. Grocery stores are doing that now too a little bit where it's like, well, yeah, some of them are starting to do that where it's like the less that there are because it's higher in demand. We're going to make it more expensive. Right. Perfect bars. God, leave them so much 280 a piece. I just looked at $11 now piece because they're out. Dynamic ticket pricing on perfect bars. Now when I see my kids eating half of them things and throwing them down the mud, I just want to. I just pick it up and eat it. Hug my kid. I'm a trash can dude at my house. Nothing good. If I pay for it, it's getting eaten by somebody. Well, let's just say this. In the world, dude. In the world, if you're not balling out now, how do you afford anything dude? I mean, it is the craziest thing to me that, that, that people are paying what they're paying to. I mean, even to the column shows, I love them to death and I'm like, man, these guys are spending five to eight Gs to be here tonight and they're going to four shows a year. Like just to get really high tickets, you're going to spend, you and your wife or you, you're going to spend five, six hundred bucks to get the worst, to get the worst height. Yeah. If you take a family of four to a show, you're out two Gs just on tickets. And bro, a T-shirts, $89, the hats, 60 bucks. Everything's getting more expensive and people aren't making the money. Right. No. Yeah. They are not making the money. But it's also becoming easier and it's also becoming easier to view it in different mediums as well. And I think that's what people are doing it too. I think people are. Oh, bro. You don't have to pay for a ticket to go see them anymore. Dude, I can watch them sit on my couch and watch the Titans lose. That's what I'm saying. And used to you could, used to is the only way to do it was to pay a ticket. You go see who you love. Now you can see them on YouTube, you can see them on Instagram, you can see them on your. It's not the same. I get it. I know I get it. But I know. But it's easier. Who's your first concert? It's a something to think of. Oh man, well, I can just sit back on this one. What do you think you had in on your first concert you ever went to? I don't know. Church paid for it. I went to Diamond Rio. Church paid for that one. Church paid for Diamond Rio? At Magic Springs Theme Park. It was awesome. What a cool church. Yeah. Diamond Rio, man. The first concert that ever bought tickets to. Oh yeah, you can't sing on this show. Sorry. One more day. There you go. You got a guitar sitting there. You can't even sing on the show. But people will play it and go like, let me show you how I did, wrote this part of this song. They can do that. Like the lead singer of Switchfoot was in and I was like, hey, stars kind of sound. He's like, yeah, this is how it went from the bridge here. That's all fine. You don't get to pay for that. First ticket ever bought at a concert was probably John Fogarty. And that was like, but also you're talking like 25 years ago. I was like 18 bucks. Yeah, dude. That's yeah. It used to be just a concert fee would be like three bucks. But now the fees are almost double the ticket price. I just think in life people are getting it coming to the edge, dude. People are coming. I think the bubble's about, I think the bubble's about to pop. I think people are just like, you know what? We're not doing it anymore. Like we're just not going to pay for it anymore. And but there are a few artists that can do stadiums and those artists that are right below them are being encouraged to do state and then it's not working out and it's kind of embarrassing for them because then the news runs with it. They love it. They love it. Oh, dude, absolutely. The the stadium acts now. Wallin, Combs, Zach Bryan, those three because they do them currently. Sure. Kenny and country music. Garth for sure. I think Eric could do it. I think he could strategically do it. Yeah. I don't know that he wants to do it. I don't either. And I don't think he invests enough in keeping him. I'm afraid. Like he he does his own thing. He's not trying to stay extremely relevant and do a massive press tour and get new people to fall in love with him. I think those five. I think if you were to team some people up, you could do it. But even that's hard. Like George Strait with Stapleton does it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. George Strait doing three shows a year can do it. Sure. But to do like Wallin and Combs and. Every weekend. Just go pop around, do freaking stadium. Bro, he's doing two shows at Lambo. Yeah, man. He's doing Wimbly. Yeah, three nights. But to see that encourages you to go, man, maybe I can do that if he can do that. And that is a hard jump from an arena to a stadium. Oh, it's huge, man. It's a big jump. That is a hard. That's a jump from a big stadium, 22,000 to 80 or 90,000. You're like four, four Xing it. And let me just, let me just say this for my boy too, man. What does he got 40? It's a 47. It's like 47. But here's the other thing. Here's the other sneaky. He's got 47 trucks. It's do. It might be 147. I mean, there are. Let me just say this to you. Stadium shows are different when you're blocking off an end zone and doing a stadium show. Yeah. Yeah. 360 is crazy. There is nothing blocked off to that is a complete 360. Every seat you can sit in is open. Yeah. I mean, what do you do at Knoxville? 92. He did 97 in Ohio, bro. Dude, you're talking. It looks like it feels like. We went to Notre Dame. It feels like Elon Musk is about to send a space ship off the center of that thing. It does, but like they're gonna just go. Get in and just lift off. It's intense, man. It's intense. It's the wildest. It's wild. This is my coolest stadium story. It's a minor flex that I've told it before. It was April Fool's Day a few years ago, and I got a call from finger quote Garth Brooks on April Fool's Day. And Garth Brooks was like, hey, it's Garth. I didn't recognize the number. And I know Garth a little bit. I have Garth's number on my phone. It was from a number that wasn't. It sounds like Garth. Yeah, a little bit. I had my wife come over and I was like, I put it on mute. I was like, this guy says he's Garth. Listen, especially comes over and I put it back on speaker. And he's like, hey, man, it's Garth. I'm going to play. Raise it back stadium. We're about to announce it in Arkansas. I would love for you to be the main support for me and Trisha. And I'm like, I'll call you. Yeah, I'm in. Hey, I'm in. I'll come play the stadium. Garth. Yeah, April Fool's April Fool's Day. And I was like, yeah, come in. And so he's like, cool. Hangs up and he hung up so quickly. I was like, was that actually Garth? And my wife goes, I don't. It's April Fool's Day. Like, why would you believe anything on April Fool's Day? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, OK, next day, Garth's manager called and said, hey, you're going to open. You're going to be made support for Garth and Raise it Back Stadium. I was like, was that real? And he was like, that's a great story. He was like, yes. So it was Garth. I played for 102,000 people. Biggest. That's amazing. Biggest show ever in Arkansas history. It was a Garth headline show in the round, full stadium around. And before the show, because he had an opener and Mitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so Buddy, man. And he was great. He's great. And Garth was like, hey, I don't want you to go on till it's dark. He came before I went on. And I was like, that's so cool. Like, who would even think of that? And he said, because I want you to like experience this with the lights. Pretty sick, dude. It's pretty sick. And then he said, then Garth said, also, if you want to go over your time, because he gave us 40 minutes, he said, if you want to go over your time, get yourself. Go over. And Trisha was right next to him and she goes, don't go over. And I was like, don't worry. I ain't going to. I wasn't going to. I wasn't going to in the first place. No part of me was even thinking, I'm going to do 39 and 50. Dang right, dude. Actually, tell me to go 30. Yes. Please. And then what was cool, though, he's like, hey, this is around like you're talking about. It's exhausting to play that because you have to pay attention to everybody. He said, I want you to use the whole stage because people will feel like that you're not giving it to them because they're all around. Yeah. You got to keep moving. And nobody was there to see me. They were there to see Garth. But to see that, like how much energy has to be done all the way around. There are people. It's such shining sea in that stadium. And for Combs to do that constantly and to not be 40 years old, that's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. It's crazy experience. As far as like what all goes into it, it's just the logistics are insane. They don't make sense. The night we're there, we're on the bus. I mean, I kind of bust and combs out on this. But he's like, y'all stand, we're standing, they all stand on the bus. And we're like, all right. So we hang out, we warm up some pizza and microwave, we eat that, we go to bed. And all of a sudden we hear like 13 alarms go off. This is in South Bend. From his room. It's like, man, man. Please take shelter. Please take shelter. He comes flying. You were in the direct line of a tornado. There's a tornado coming right for us. Everybody get off this bus and get inside the stadium right now. And we're like, hey man, maybe we can just chill and see if it like comes. He's like, no, off the bus. And harp, his best, his best lifetime buddy is like, I don't want to do this, I don't want to get on this false alarm. He's like, get your ass off. He's like going. So we're running, we run through a torrential downpour. How do you have my contacts in? Into the stadium. I don't even know how to share it on. Into the stadium, in the locker room. No, remember trying to get in, we were like, oh yeah. It's like two o'clock in the morning, there's nobody in the stadium. Did the tornado hit anywhere close? Yeah. Oh, it did. Yeah. It came right through there. It came right, just like south, I think just south of South Bend. So he was kind of right then. I mean, the bus didn't get picked up and thrown away. Oh dude, I mean, like there's a guy on YouTube that we all watch now, that I've kind of put everybody on and it's a weather guy. And he's like, Ryan Hall is saying to get into cover. So we got to get in that store right now. Put a helmet on. He's like Ryan saying South Bend. It was, yeah. Did you guys have tornadoes growing up? Oh yeah. I feel like it's more now though, dude. Yeah, I feel like it is too more. I do feel like though, and I tell people this, and I hope my, I hope, I've got a little, I like a little boy, I got a little girl too, but like, when I was little and there was a tornado coming through, this is how much I trusted my dad, dude. I would, I would go to him and I'd go, hey dad, I was like, are we going to be all right? And he'd be like, yeah man, we're going to be fine. And dude, I would have gone out there and played basketball in it. Just because the way I, like I didn't know, but like I remember being going to our neighbors over there that we used to go to the morises and going downstairs and, in their basement. Yeah. And just playing video games and not being scared because dad said to not be scared when it could have been, we could have been absolutely direct hitting. But when Luke Holmes says be scared, you also were scared. I was not scared. You were not scared. I was completely fine. I was with, I was team heart. We were going to stay on the bus, but like he was going to drag us out. You ain't nobody staying on that bus. He was going to drag us out by our hands. Yeah, there wasn't no way you were staying on the bus. To get in that, if we had to. We, we don't have basements here, which is odd because we have, like you said, a lot of tornadoes living in Nashville. And half, I was reading our nocturnal tornadoes, which means we got a freaking be butt puckered all night long. One of us has stay awake and watch. Because they hit at night here in Nashville. Why is that? It's very true. It does feel like you called him nocturnal. I didn't. I read about it. It's kind of cool. Yeah. Half of the tornadoes that hit where we live are nocturnal tornadoes. Like nightnados. So we need nades. Nightnaders. Tornadoes. Growing up, we had a bunch in Arkansas. Yeah. Yeah. That's because Arkansas is not quite Oklahoma and Kansas. But it's close. So we would not have the worst version of it, but we had a bunch. And for like significant parts of my life at different times, I lived in different trailer parks. And what I remember most is when tornadoes would come, everybody, this is, it sounds, you know, counterintuitive to what you do. Everybody gets out and they go to a ditch. You're outside and you go to a ditch and you cover yourself. Because if you're in the tornado and not even the tornado hits, if the heavy winds hit. Yeah, the trailer is fine. So one of the memories that's like embedded into my mind is when tornadoes were coming, everybody would be coming out of the trailers, walking down to the ditch. Yep. And just getting down. Sheesh. Crazy. That's pretty nuts. You do hear the stories of like, like that's like, it hit the trailer park and then there was one guy holding onto the toilet, you know, because it was like, like the house was gone, but he was sitting there, you know, strapped in. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. This is the Bobby cast. Who have you had on your show recently that you did not expect to really like? Not that you didn't think you'd dislike them, but maybe you didn't know. Didn't know. But they came in and they left and you're like, legit. Zach taught for me. I didn't know. I didn't know. We didn't know him from Adam. I loved his stuff. I loved the two records he did. And obviously he's a monster, you know, playing the guitar, musician, and he can sing, you know, phone book. But like really, you know, not knowing anything about him, what he's like, what he likes, his interest, that that in or that conversation and interview was, I left going, man, I'm a, I'm an even bigger fan of Zach Topp than I was originally. I like Morgan Evans, dude. I thought he was such a nice guy. I've known Morgan for a while. Same. He's the greatest. And he's just a great dude. Yeah. He's a great dude. Like man's man. Like just like it. I feel like I could call him if somebody was going to beat me up. I could call him if I needed some money. I could call. He would just be there. And like we have that relationship though. That's awesome. I know you guys had some viral stuff with, I mean, I had some like crazy stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy stuff. Well, because. We piggybacked off that a little bit. Yeah, thanks. Oh great. I just, I, the Garth, Morgan, Nevin stuff for you guys. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. But we talked about, yeah. Oh yeah. We're talking about the guy that called, that we really went nuts on the guy that got on. Yeah, the girl guy that called him a girl. Oh yeah. Yeah, you know the guy that wears V-next with those shirts under on. That's got blonde strips in his hair. I tell you what, if I could pull it off, I would though. That's the thing. Oh, you would? I think so. You're just cool for that though. I'm not. I'm too old. Yes. No, cool. You're a cool guy. I'm not. Well, you're a cool guy. I can see you going streaks. I wear, yeah, I wear cardigans every day of my life. I think I'm cool because I don't chase it anymore. I chased it for a while. You did? That car's kind of screaming Chasey. My car? Yeah. What's this car? I was thinking about the shoes. I'm guessing it's probably the blue Porsche that's sitting right here. No, it's a Lamborghini. Chasey. Nothing says I want to blend like a blue Lamborghini. Hey, so get it right. Get her, get her right. I'm not a car guy, so I don't know. I'm not a car guy either. I know nothing, no, know nothing about cars. My dream, my whole life, was to have a Bentley. And when I- Your whole life? Well, as soon as I saw like rich people on TV- Bentley. Yeah, I want a Bentley. Yeah, I was like, I want a Bentley. That's the B with the wings on it. And you know what? It also was a B. That makes sense because also my name's B. Yeah, it is. Twice. I just connected. Well, and I'm a real name. How sick would it be to have a Bentley that had the BB on it, dude? That's dirty. What is coming, dude? I told him- He'll probably have one tomorrow. I'm gonna try to get in for that. Car guys. Yeah. Yeah, but I did, I got it and it was cool. And I was like, man, this is all, but it was so low to the ground. And it was like, I should have been dry. I should have been chauffeur and somebody I felt like. If you really got a Bentley, you're riding in the back of it. Yeah, that's a good point too. I didn't have a driver. I didn't think about that. And it was a cool car, but I don't see very well. And I kept hitting potholes because this town sucks for potholes. And my wife's like, you have to have an SUV. This is God's honest story, truth. And I said, okay. So I finally had my dream car to which my, when I first moved to town, I got a business manager, which was weird to me to pay somebody money to watch money. But then I was having to like pay percentages and I felt like I was going to go to jail for doing wrong. So I was like, I gotta have a business manager. Yeah. Yeah. And I said, my, That's that broke boy mindset though. Very much. I had the same thing. Sure. Absolutely. Very much. And I said, I want to, I really wanted to get to the point where I made it, make enough money to get a Bentley. And so for Christmas that next year, she gave me a remote control Bentley. She was like, this will do for now. I still have that remote control Bentley from when I first moved to town. But I bought that car. It was a big deal for me. And I kept having flat tires and those rims are not cheap. So my wife said, you got to get an SUV. So I was like, let's go practical and about the Lamborghini SUV. Well, if it makes you feel any better, there's a screw in my tire right now, letting air out in your parking lot. And I have a big truck. So regardless of what you have, there's screws all over this town. Lot of screws. Why? What? Why? When did that happen? Well, we hopped in the truck today to pick read up and he goes, hey man, your tires are a little bit. I was like, dude, I was like, you're left, your back left tires flat. We were coming to this place. You just sensed it. You're like the princess and the P. You just get in a truck and no one attires low. No, I looked at it. It's something's off. It was pancaked in my driveway. He sits in his like left. No, right rear tire. It's a flat top. It's a I'm a dude. I know what a flat tire looks like. He goes, you're back tire flat. I was like, no, dude, everybody's like, get in. We're late. Come on. I was like, we got to go. All right. I whip it out. I'm like, let me just check. It's like 31, 31, 31, 13. I was like, oh, man, we're rolling. We're already rolling down the road. And I'm like, he's like, oh, you weren't lying. My tires flat. I know what a flat tire looks like. No shit. What did you tell me? He's like, I did. We rip it around. That's a story. That's a story of my life. He's like, I can plug it real quick. I was like, no, dude, we're going to be late. Just guess that thing up. We'll fill it up at the BP. It's going to be flat. It's going to be flat. I'm all right. We're going to have to stop at the BP and do the whole tire thing. It's all good. Well, you are. That sucks. No, it's fine. Back in the day, you filled up with Fix-a-Flat. Back in the day, I'd be really concerned about it. Today, I haven't thought about it until right now. Because you got Song Right and Rich. You can't call me out for having a Lamborghini and not admit you're Song Right and Rich. I didn't say anything about you. You laughed, though. That me up, bro. That me up. What song have you written that you made the most money from? Reed? Kind of love. We make. Luke Combs. Kind of love we make. I'm not asking you how much. I would never do that to you. Call me out for a Porsche and not even a Porsche. Dan? Not a car guy. What song have you written that you made the most money from? Oh, man. His is kind of love, too. Probably better together. But it was a five-week number. It was in the heat, heat of the Combs. He's got a four-week right now, bro. I'm not saying he's not still on the Rockets yet. I'm just saying this was the incline of the... I think I had one of the... Well, I had the first big piano ballad, you know, and it just happened to really do good. Do you guys get paper checks in the mail or do they just go to your bank now? We did for a long time. BMI would just send us... You'd get a check by annually, I think, but now it's direct deposit. And there's still some... Like, there's still some publishing checks you can get in the mail if you don't have it set up to go direct deposit. It just makes sense to get direct deposit, though. Then get a lost. Yeah, you're going to convince me. I'm familiar with how the direct deposit works. I just wondered if it actually just mailed it to you. I'll tell you this, though. My wife knew what that was. She'd be waiting, but she'd be standing by that. Oh, yeah, they know. They know when that thing was coming, baby. I have nothing to say about that. I'm not jumping in the they know in case everybody's... Bro, that's just them. He knows they know. I'm looking at your camera, too. We know you. We know you. We know you. I'm looking at your camera for you and saying they know. Okay, look, God's Country podcast, you guys do a great job. Is this over already? We've done over an hour and your tire's flat. Now I'm starting to feel guilty. It's crazy. But your tire's flat out there. It's really no big deal. Because that's all I could think about. If I were in here in your position and had a flat tire, all I would be thinking about is, oh, my God, I'm going to walk out and I'm going to be just on a nub. Bro, we literally filled it up with air and we got like, I was like, all right, it's good. And it was like, let's get it. Oh, you can get it. I was like, you can literally hear it. Well, I couldn't be late because last time I was late, the half of the... We started, we did the whole half of the interview we got there. Yeah. No, it wasn't high. It wasn't, I wasn't that late. You just can't ever tell with Nashville traffic, man. They'll be fixing potholes at two o'clock on. Nashville traffic. Are you talking about the last baby we did? They need to be. You still apologizing for that one? Yeah. That wasn't the latest anybody has ever been in the history, though, honest to God, in the history of me doing, that's the latest anybody's ever been. 10 minutes? Yeah. Because once they hit about seven, I cancel it. You didn't cancel it because he was already there. He was already started. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I get that. I understand that actually. Unless... It was out of my control, but I get it. Yeah. Thank you. It's all good. Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's going to have to be. Everybody check out the God's Country podcast. I'm a fan of it. Come back on. We just did the thing. I'm happy to come back on. I'd love to do this thing. Oh, yeah. The thing. Well, it's like, what am I going to talk about? Unless we're talking about... Talk about fishing or go fishing? Unless we're... Let's go. Let's do a let's go fishing podcast. Yeah, I would do that with you guys. That'd be fun. Sick. Okay. I would do that. Let's do it. That would be fun. Yeah. Still running it all the way. Well, I'm just going through my calendar. I'm a little busy that day. Like every day for a... Yeah. Yeah. So I wanted you heard me want to do it. You know, actually just going fishing without... Podcasts would be way more fun. So I think what you're going to do is... I just watched Anxiety Wind. I just watched Anxiety Wind. Anxiety Wind. That's exactly right. Listen, you got to beat that devil down. I know. You got to go, man, that sounds fun right now. And it'll be fun the day I do it. How are you guys juggling your time, though, to make sure you do a quality show whenever you guys are writing songs all the time? We just go over the sheet and that before. We just go. Like there's honestly like Jordan gives us a little prep sheet before the show and the night before and we kind of research it. But like I know without a shadow of a doubt that when we walk into a room, it doesn't matter who we're with. Whatever show it is, it's going to be a good show. Like I just... I've got complete 100% confidence in us. They're not going to bomb at least. Yeah. Nothing's going to fail. If we do bomb, it'll at least be funny. That's awesome. I feel the opposite. It's going to suck. I feel that every time driving into town, but then I also know at the end of it like... Get that anxiety devil off your back. Do you got to beat him down, dude? Yeah, yeah. But it's also my superpower, honestly, God. Like me being so... It pushes you into it. Very much so. I have to super focus. Is that exhaustion thing we're talking about? Dial it in. Very much so. I wasn't worried about with you guys. It's like I like talking with you guys. Did you wonder if we were going to be on time? No. No, not at all. I didn't even remember that. We were real close to being late. Yeah. But it was legit this time too. We're going to be late to whatever we got to go to next because we got to fix that tire. What's next? Are you writing? No. It's Friday, dude. Yeah, man, I got a kids birthday... One of my kids' birthday parties tomorrow, and then the next day we're hosting like... Mother's Day. Mother's Day. It's... Why? Why? A lot coming down the chute. Is it like a work thing? Or just like eight mothers, like family, friends? There's plenty of work involved, but it's a marriage thing. Got it. They know. We don't need to go there, dude. You guys speak so negatively. Like the tone is just always so negative. They know. We don't got to go there. We mean always. Always? It was bought twice. It was just so negative. Okay, twice is a long way from always. Yeah. All right. We'll go. Twice is a long way from... You know what I'm saying? Oh, do it. Yeah. Twice is a long way from always. Now, has that song been published? What, just got published? Because we co-wrote it. Three of us. That's not how it works. It's not published just because you sing it. That's like I declare bankruptcy and then going... We just... We just... We got to turn it around. Yeah, we just... Yeah. Yeah, we just trademarked it by singing it, recorded it. Also, that's not how that works. I thought that's how that worked. Mm-hmm. Got to be a brand. We don't do anything wrong. We should do some legal. I'll get you a legal Zoom. Subscribe to... Nah, we're good. Nah, I'm good. All right. God's Country Podcast. I think I'd rather go to jail, actually, than do that one. Subscribe. Check them out. They know country music. They live country music. They write country music. They bring on the greatest artist in country music to come on. And you guys do a great job, seriously. Thank you, guys. I told you this for a long time. So, yeah, you guys check out God's Country Podcast, and we will see you guys later on this week. All right, bye, everybody. This has been a BobbyCast production.