Earthfiles Podcast with Linda Moulton Howe

Ep 169: Did Red-eyed Humanoids Crash Land in Varginha, Brazil, in 1996?

61 min
Jan 30, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Linda Moulton Howe and Ian Holling discuss the January 1996 Varginha, Brazil UFO crash and alleged non-human entity encounters, featuring testimony from Brazilian medical professionals and witnesses at a January 2026 National Press Club conference. The episode explores documented evidence of a captured living extraterrestrial being, the mysterious death of a military officer from an unusual bacterial infection, and alleged U.S. government retrieval and concealment of crash debris and non-human remains.

Insights
  • Multiple credible witnesses including neurosurgeons, forensic pathologists, and military personnel are publicly testifying about direct contact with non-human entities, representing a shift toward mainstream disclosure
  • The 1996 Varginha incident shows patterns of witness intimidation, visa denials, and alleged financial coercion attempts by unknown parties to suppress testimony
  • Medical evidence including an autopsy documenting an unusual multi-drug-resistant bacterium that killed a healthy officer suggests potential biological hazards from extraterrestrial contact
  • Congressional interest in UAP/UFO disclosure has increased significantly since 2017, with four open hearings and mandated DoD reports, indicating changing political landscape
  • Witness accounts consistently describe telepathic communication and emotional empathy from the entities, suggesting non-hostile intent despite government containment efforts
Trends
Shift from classified government UFO/UAP investigations to public congressional hearings and disclosure pressureIncreasing credibility of eyewitness testimony from medical and military professionals in UFO/UAP casesPattern of alleged government suppression tactics including visa denials, financial incentives, and 30-year delayed official denialsGrowing public demand for transparency on non-human intelligence and potential underground bases on EarthMedia coverage evolution from fringe topics to mainstream documentary and press conference platformsInternational cooperation emerging between U.S. and Brazilian officials regarding historical UFO/UAP incidentsDocumented medical complications from alleged extraterrestrial contact suggesting biological interaction risksWitness empathy and telepathic communication narratives becoming consistent across multiple independent accountsTechnical interference patterns during live broadcasts discussing sensitive UFO/UAP topicsYounger generation engagement with disclosure issues as primary motivation for witness testimony
Topics
Varginha Brazil UFO Crash 1996Non-Human Entity Encounters and CharacteristicsGovernment UFO/UAP Disclosure and Congressional HearingsWitness Testimony and Credibility in UFO CasesExtraterrestrial Biological Evidence and AutopsiesMilitary and Medical Professional UFO EncountersGovernment Suppression and Witness Intimidation TacticsAlleged U.S. Government Retrieval and Reverse EngineeringUnderground Extraterrestrial Bases on EarthTelepathic Communication with Non-Human IntelligenceMulti-Drug-Resistant Bacterial Infections from ET ContactDocumentary Filmmaking on UFO/UAP CasesInternational UFO/UAP Investigation CooperationVisa Denial and Travel Restrictions on UFO WitnessesLive Broadcast Technical Interference Patterns
Companies
National Press Club
Hosted January 20, 2026 televised press conference featuring Brazilian witnesses and medical professionals testifying...
Amazon Prime
Streaming platform distributing James Fox's documentary 'Moment of Contact 2025' with updated UFO/UAP evidence and wi...
Department of Defense
Released congressionally mandated UAP task force reports; published 600-page official investigation refuting Varginha...
U.S. Air Force
Allegedly retrieved crash debris and non-human beings from Varginha, Brazil in 1996 and transported them to classifie...
Regional Hospital (Varginha, Brazil)
Facility where neurosurgeon Dr. Italo Venturelli reportedly examined a live captured non-human entity in January 1996
People
Linda Moulton Howe
Emmy award-winning journalist and host of Earthfiles podcast discussing UFO/UAP disclosure and Varginha case evidence
James Fox
Documentary filmmaker who organized January 2026 National Press Club conference and conducted interviews with Brazili...
Dr. Italo Venturelli
Leading Brazilian neurosurgeon who publicly testified about face-to-face contact with captured non-human entity in ho...
Dr. Armando
Forensic pathologist who conducted autopsy on military officer Marco Cherez, documenting unusual multi-drug-resistant...
Dr. João Batista Janini
Renowned pathologist who analyzed organ samples from Marco Cherez autopsy, describing bacterium behavior as unprecede...
Marco Cherez
23-year-old military police officer who captured non-human entity with bare hands and died weeks later from unusual b...
Eric Lopes
Military police officer who assisted Marco Cherez in capturing one of the live non-human beings in Varginha
Liliana
One of three girls who encountered red-eyed non-human entity on January 20, 1996 and reported telepathic communicatio...
Valkyria
One of three girls who witnessed non-human entity in Varginha on January 20, 1996 alongside sisters
Luisa Helena da Silva
Mother of two girls who witnessed Varginha entity; reported receiving visits from four men in black attempting financ...
Ian Holling
Guest analyst discussing Varginha case evidence, bacterial pathology, and government suppression patterns during live...
Representative Burleson
U.S. Congressional representative who attended National Press Club conference and advocated for public disclosure of ...
Ronald Reagan
Former U.S. President allegedly briefed at Camp David about non-human entities ranging from dangerous to peaceful
Marcos Vinicio Neve
Fellow neurosurgeon who called Dr. Italo Venturelli to examine captured non-human entity in hospital in 1996
Quotes
"I stand before you with nothing to gain and everything to lose. I am not selling anything or asking for money. I still work as a neurosurgeon and I am here because everyone, especially the younger generations, deserve to know there is much more beyond human existence."
Dr. Italo VenturelliNational Press Club testimony
"The moment I looked at the being, I immediately knew it was not human. Its serenity and powerful presence led me to believe it had a very high level of intelligence and perception higher than human beings."
Dr. Italo VenturelliHospital encounter description
"That bacteria is behaving unlike anything I have ever seen before or since."
Dr. João Batista JaniniAutopsy findings
"Evidence that we are not alone should not be classified. Confirmation of the existence of life beyond earth belongs to every human being."
James FoxNational Press Club conference
"I feel this creature with me every moment, where I go. So I will always tell my truth. In January, the story has been 30 years, and I have never changed any language, and I will never change it, because this is my truth."
LilianaWitness testimony video
Full Transcript
This is Earth Files, the award-winning news site with the latest updates in science, environment, and real X-Files. Podcasting in-depth reports beyond the 6 o'clock news by Emmy award-winning journalist Linda Moulton-Au. Hi everyone, it's good to be back with you live at the Earth Files YouTube channel, where we are about to break through 300,000 subscribers. And there are so many differently described alien beings now in the high strangeness of UFOs, UAPs, ranging from blonde-haired, blue-eyed Nordics that resemble Scandinavian humans, to other types such as the tall whites, tall and small grays, tall and small reptilians, tall insects that include praying mantises. Allegedly, President Ronald Reagan was told in a Camp David classified briefing that there are non-humans that range from dangerous to peaceful. One of the most famous cases is the Varginha, Brazil UFO with strange red-eyed, dark brown humanoids. And last week on January 20, 2026 in Washington, D.C., at the National Press Club, longtime documentary filmmaker James Fox hosted a televised press conference with medical doctors, military experts, and members of Congress before a large digital audience tuned into the National Press Conference. Virginia, Brazil, is in the southeastern region where Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo are on the Atlantic Ocean side of Brazil in the state of Minas Gerais, long known for the high strangeness of UFOs and strange beings in late January of 1996. The press conference focused on the historic January 20, 1996 UFO and ET encounter with non-human entities that suddenly were encountered in Varginha, Brazil. Varginha is an inland city in Minas Gerais, far from the coast, where the nearest ocean, the Atlantic, borders the entire eastern Brazilian coast. And this January 2026, documentary filmmaker James Fox, for the first time ever since the 1996 UFO flap, has interviewed, quote, a leading Brazilian neurosurgeon, Dr. Italo Venturelli, MD, who reveals his own face-to-face contact in a hospital with a live, non-human, intelligent being in 1996. The conference addresses the existence of non-human biologics, defined as biological specimens or bodies of a technologically advanced non-human intelligence. The first-hand witnesses here with us today will describe their personal encounters with live, advanced non-human beings that were discovered in the immediate aftermath of a UFO crash outside Virginia, Brazil in 1996. What happened in Virginia is a part of a larger story, one that has accelerated dramatically here in the United States following the 2017 New York Times article that brought renewed attention to military encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, or UAP. Since then, Congress has held four open hearings on UAP, an unprecedented step, while the Department of Defense has released congressionally mandated reports from its UAP task force. The public's right to know becomes central. Evidence that we are not alone should not be classified. Confirmation of the existence of life beyond earth, I think we all agree, belongs to every human being. Government retrievals and reverse engineering of craft not made by human beings and the recovery of bodies of non-human beings. These reports alleged hidden government activities like those you will hear about today stretching across many decades. So what these folks are going to tell you today in person and remotely are astounding, but they're not the only credible testimony about such events. Thank you. What brings us here together today is what I consider and many others the most compelling case in modern history. In January 1996 in Virginia Brazil numerous witnesses reported a cigar-shaped object in distress which ultimately crashed in a field, Maiolini farm just outside the city of Virginia Brazil. Several days later on January 20th three girls outside the city ages 14 16 and 21 came within a few steps of an otherworldly creature cowering in broad daylight against the wall in a vacant lot over time it was revealed that the Brazilian fire department and military police captured two non-human beings on that same day. According to multiple Brazilian government officials, the crash debris and non-human beings, likely one still living, were flown out of Brazil within days by U.S. Air Force and presumably remain in the possession of a secret U.S. government classified research program. More and more witnesses are coming forward because courage is infectious and their strength in numbers. This investigation is far from over. We are encouraging a coalition between officials from the U.S. and Brazil to acquire additional records, including potential video and photographic evidence of this case. I believe in this case because this could settle the debate once and for all that we're not alone. I'm very grateful to our Brazilian witnesses taking the time to come all this way to be here with us today. So thank you everyone for being here and for all your efforts. I was able to transport this C, but first, before I transport this C, I entered the second door of the hospital where I visited the C. And then, there came reports of that it was simply a extraterrestrial. With that, I took the transport from Varginha to Three Corações, from Three Corações to Campinas, where I left the car and other military took place. And, then, back to Three Corações, there was a report that the Americans would have, after he was transported to a place ignored, a place I don't know. Our next Brazilian witness brings an essential perspective to one of the most difficult and still unresolved aspects of the Virginia case, the sudden and tragic death of a healthy 23-year-old military police officer, Marco Cherez, who, with the help of fellow officer Eric Lopes, captured one of the live beings with his bare hands. Within weeks, he developed a severe bacterial infection that would ultimately prove fatal. Dr. Armando, the forensic specialist who conducted Cherez's autopsy, is a highly respected physician with a law degree, but works primarily in forensic medicine. Over more than three decades with the Minas Gerais civil police, he served as a forensic pathologist, criminal medical examiner and critical medical examiner he also served as the president of the medical association and municipal secretary of health in virginia he is here with us today to discuss his knowledge of the case good day i hereby state that i am telling the truth and that i have no conflict of interest personal or otherwise i was assigned to perform the autopsy on the body of the 23 year old soldier marco elixeresi whose unexpected death led the commander of the military police of the state of minas gerais to request an investigation on suspicion of professional error it was considered unusual that a young healthy soldier would die as a result of what appeared to be a simple abscess in the underarm area I sent organ fragments and blood samples to my colleague, the renowned pathologist Dr. João Batista Janini, for laboratory assessment and further clarification. A recent scar was observed in the left underarm region as a result from a surgical drainage of an infectious lesion. The patient died a few days later, despite having been evaluated and treated by other physicians with high doses of anti-inflammatory medications and antibiotics. As the infection was caused by a highly virulent and multi-drug-resistant bacterium, it progressed rapidly, spreading throughout the body and resulting in septic shock, eventually leading to the death of the young soldier. Final Brazilian witness, Dr. Italo. No, wait, wait, wait. It's a physician specializing in neurology and neurosurgery with nearly five decades of experience in both clinical care and specialized neurological procedures. He is currently the leading neurosurgeon at Regional Hospital. He maintains a private practice and is also involved in healthcare management through his medical services company. For the first time in a public setting, we are honored to hear directly from Dr. Italo, who will describe his face-to-face interaction with a captured living being of advanced non-human intelligence. An apparent survivor of the Virginia crash. His experience represents one of the most significant developments in the history of UAP investigations, Dr. Idolo. In 2023, I revealed to James Fox and his team that had seen a video of a non-human creature in the hospital on January 20th, 1996. After suffering a near fatal heart attack in 2024, I felt compelled to share more details of my experience despite previous concern about consequences for my career. That afternoon in 1996, I was working at Virginia Regional Hospital when my colleague and fellow neurosurgeon Marcos Vinicio Neve urgently called me into an improvised intensive care room. he was carrying a large video camera upon entering he showed me a black and white video on the camera screen that appeared to be a child lying in bed with an extreme case of hydrocephalus i asked what is this he pointed past the makeshift partition where a being was lying I got closer. The moment I looked at the being, I immediately knew it was not human. I first examined it with a medical perspective, breathing well, no apparent pain, conscious, no bleeding. It seemed fine, with a calm and serene expression. It looked like a seven-year-old child with a sheet covering up to its waist. Its eyes were lilac. and teardrop shaped. The cranium was also teardrop shaped. The skin was white, the arms were very thin, and the hand had three fingers and an opposing thumb. It had no nipples and a tiny mouth. He looked at me, then looked at the blue sky through the window as if longing to be there, then looked back at me. After that, I sensed it was fully aware of what was happening around it and our intention to help. Its serenity and powerful presence led me to believe it had a very high level of intelligence and perception higher than human beings. beings it seemed like an angel with understanding and compassion in its gaze aware that despite our limitations we were doing the best we could for it i stand before you with nothing to gain and everything to lose i am not selling anything or asking for money i still work as a neurosurgeon and I am here because everyone, especially the younger generations, deserve to know there is much more beyond human existence, and I am eyewitness to the proof. Thank you. One attendee at the press conference was Representative Burleson a congressional presence who said quote this government belongs to you People need to demand truth from congressional legislative efforts. Push on Congress, he said, close quote. And I would like to go to my colleague and friend, Ian Holling, who is with us tonight in this Earth Files YouTube channel, and give a quote in which it said, Ian, that bacteria that killed healthy 20-year-old officer Marco Chariz was called by those doctors in Brazil, weaponized bacteria. And forensic pathologist Dr. Janini said, quote, that bacteria is behaving unlike anything I have ever seen before or since, close quote. And so, Ian, eight people in Varangia were denied U.S. visas to prevent them from testifying in the James Fox press conference that we have just seen some segments from. And the weaponized bacteria killed Officer Cherez. And highly respected head neurosurgeon Dr. Italo Venturelli said, quote, the truth, I saw the beam, it was not a beam from our planet, close quote. And so, Ian, what is your reaction to all that we've heard so far tonight in the context of the huge UFO, UAP drama in our solar system and our planet? And a case like this, in which we didn't know back in 1996, that outstanding surgeons, patrol, police officers, that people were seeing these entities. and now it's come back today at a time where we are struggling in the United States to have congressional hearings that will open up the truth for the past 50 years, 100 years, World War II to today and we still, we are struggling to get truth here. Well Linda, it's great to be back and great to be back on a live with you here tonight and on such an exciting subject as this. James Fox has been doing sterling work for the last 30 years visiting Brazil numerous times, gathering the evidence, and this last week he presented the evidence. And I think it's an overwhelming amount of evidence that is still coming forward. There's still work to be done, but people coming forward with witness testimonies, and you addressed specifically that autopsy that was carried out. Eric, if you can just post that. I've posted the autopsy. If we can do the page five in a moment as we talk. Page five actually lists the bacteria. I've been doing some research into this myself. Now, this bacteria is named as Deflococcus schleffereri. I believe it represents an uncommon pathogen in human infections. It is known, but it's uncommon in humans. It's more known in animals such as canines. This organism has the ability to create several invasive infections among adults, such as wound infection, etc. It's an increasingly encountered zoo on my pathogen. Yes, it did. And that's what everyone was surprised about, that it killed him within days, I believe. And he was the one who had the direct contact with the extraterrestrial when he caught it with his bare hands. and it was not the only one. It's very clear. There were other beings around. It was not a singular inaction. And I wonder, can we ask Eric to put up three, at least two poll questions to our audience tonight? I think Eric is there standing back to do this. And here are the questions that came up in some discussions that I had with some people about Virginia. And this is, will you in the Earth Files audience, the YouTube audience, would you be interested in, willing, wanting to contact your local congressional representative in the United States to find out more about UFOs and ETs by demanding disclosure as a representative to the public. And that we humans, he said, this is congressional Rep. Burleson. He said, we humans are not alone in this universe, as if he has accepted this now as a change in the whole political landscape, used to resist having any discussion. And now there seems to be a great interest in this. And he said, and people in Virginia, Brazil, have medical evidence of non-humans. And that is what we have just been talking about, that was never reported like this before now. And I have one more poll question. First, will you, of the viewers to the Earth Files YouTube channel, would each of you like to reach out to come up with letters, telephone calls in which you reach out to your congressional representative and you say that there is too much medical evidence that something highly strange occurred and that you would like to see the congressional rep on the Senate or the House side in your state stress in their political statements that we humans are not alone in this universe and that people in Virginia have medical evidence of non-humans and that there was one more suggested question. And I think this is a good question tonight and going forward. In the Earth Files YouTube channel audience, have any of you been close to an extraterrestrial being in the physical world? as we have had the photographs indicating that the Varginia beings were out on a sidewalk in a field. Has anybody in the audience tonight been close to an extraterrestrial and a camping trip, anything where you knew that you were seeing something that was not human and it was close? And the corollary to that is, are there some of you who may have been on a trip or out in a forest or deliberately following up where you have seen lights in the sky and then encountered close up something that was not homo sapien? I'm asking this now tonight in this particular program because I feel like that we're moving into such an unstable time on our planet Earth. and that if there are multiple types of other intelligences here, such as the tall whites, the grays, and the many that are depicted by people who have had encounters or they see them in dreams or whatever it is, that we also are on a whole planet in which there might be different civilizations with bases below And that that might be why some parts of our planet, there are more cases of human abductions, animal mutilations, lights in the sky, beams of light. And it may be because we are definitely not alone in the universe. And I don't think we are alone on our planet Earth. Back to you, Ian. Yeah. okay and another thing is email us if you have for you for details of your encounters we always like to see the emails from you hold on could you hear me can you hear me Linda we've got a new set new equipment we're trying stream yard so that we can bring Ian in from England, a guest from someplace else, and I'm in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and planet Earth is our big field. So that's tonight. This is the very first time that we have been trying these different ingredients. So I would appreciate your kindness and bearing with us. And Ian, could you hear me? I could not hear you. Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me okay now? It's beautiful. Are you hearing me okay? No, am I? Are you hearing me? Okay. We're still not hearing anything. It's all silent. Okay, let me just see what's happening here. Hopefully then we'll get this settled here in a minute. Okay, how am I coming through now? Ian, can you continue? I haven't done anything with a microphone. Thank you for your understanding. We're just talking about how we have this new equipment we're trying so we can enlarge our interactions at Earth Files with Ian and others. Okay, just bear with me a moment. Okay. Okay. Apparently, Eric is hearing both of us. We're okay. I'm showing green lights here. He's there. I just can't hear him here. Okay. Let's go into live. See what's happening in the live. And we've got 30 minutes in. Yeah, people can hear me okay. We can pick this up in an upcoming Earth Files program and keep going forward. But this would be a good time to ask Brad, and is there any difference if we go into the chat to see what questions and could we have any discussion with the chat now, even if audio is gone? The world is hearing Ian, but you're not. I don't know why. The world is hearing Ian. Yeah, I can hear him. Okay, have you got another device that you can just put the YouTube? We don't know what is happening. And we're not certain what to do. And Ian, are you able to hear Ian? At all? I can hear him on YouTube. Yeah, can you ask him what he thinks we should do? You can ask him. Yeah. Okay. And you can report the answer. The only other thing we can do is make a phone call. Do you think that we should stop, make a phone call? Because if Brad can do that, we can continue. I think that's, let's do that. If that's feasible with you, Ian. Okay. Just a moment. Brad is now calling a phone number that hopefully will restore the audio. Well, it's not going to restore it. You're going to hear it. You'll be here. You'll be able to hear it. I don't know what's going to happen. Well, we'll try another two minutes. Okay. I've taken your call. But we're going to get a lot of echo this way. A lot of what? Echoing. Oh, I'm not hearing echoing much. Well, a little bit here. You're going to hear a lot of echo. And I just wanted to, you couldn't hear me or I couldn't hear you, so I just wondered what the consensus was between you and Brad and Eric. Should I go ahead and try, like, this is real dress rehearsal? Or what do you think? Yeah, I'm just going to get along. I'm... I'm trying to move my mic while I talk to you with this to try to limit the echo Linda. All right. We're going to have to cancel this phone call, and I can do it in the segment if you like. Eric is going to have to reconnect, I think. He says, can you reconnect? Ralph, can you reconnect Linda and I'll do the next inspection? Can you reconnect and I can talk with Ian in the next segment? And this is part of the rehearsal in a world. Eric suggests that Brad reconnects Linda, and I'll take the audience questions and things right now while you're being reconnected and hopefully come back with full audio. You'll try one more question. Okay, he's going to go on, and I'm going to reconnect here much of what that means exactly but um well i think it's wonderful ian to have you be a part of this broadcast and that we can do this periodically you're gonna go away yeah okay okay while brad reconnects linda i guess we'll go on to the next thing eric i'd like you to play the trailer for moment of contact this is what it all about james fox uh movie came out in 2022 This was Moment of Contact and it been updated as Moment of Contact 2025 came out in December New Revelations And this is the one that's available now, live streaming from Amazon Prime, etc. But it is a must watch with all the updated information and all these interviews etc so eric can you roll that trailer for the show well-documented ufo crash retrieval cases involving live aliens took place in virginia brazil It was a crash vehicle. Now, for the first time in history, we have the most compelling first-hand testimony. Everyone was surprised. Yes, anyone who was suffering a very serious attack. ...of communication with a live alien in captivity. Here, look. It was here. The eyes were like a bottle of water. How much time did he spend with the alien in the room? Three, four days. from James Sparks right we're back and Linda can you hear me oh can you hear me Linda we still can't hear Ian well everybody we've tried I think this is going to work it'll be a new evolutionary step for Earth Files YouTube channel and And we'll try to find out as soon as possible. And next week, we will hopefully be back on track with everything working. What's puzzling especially is that Brad and Ian and Eric are great people with technicians and technical problems. And that they can't solve this. That is fascinating. Maybe it's somebody in one of these crevices around us with consciousness who is playing around with what we're trying to do. meanwhile for those of you that i was going to transfer to ian to go into the chat i would love to hear as from many of you as possible is if we then resolve and evolve and everything will be working with this new digital aspect for you guys out there who are very interested in ufos and ets to let us know through chat. And my email address is earthfiles at earthfiles.com. And I'm always very interested in those of you who may have firsthand encounters with beams of light, strange reflections, something in a room that haunts you, because that's where I think the doorway is from so many mysteries generally and then finding out the truth about exactly what is the intelligence or intelligences that interact with planet Earth and have for thousands, millions of years. and what is happening now as we move out further to Mars, perhaps a permanent base, and Brad is showing me. Ian says he wants to continue. He has some content. Oh, and now. But you're not going to be able to hear him. I don't know why. Okay, now Ian has a very interesting proposal. I can't hear. Brad cannot hear Ian talk. talk we can't hear any sound coming from his channel but ian would like to contribute and says that he you all might be able to hear some of you might be able to hear and you could let us know because ian you would be able to know right from the chat anyway about whether people could in some cases could hear what you are saying even if the rest of us are not okay ian Take it away. Okay, it's back to me. So here we go. And I've messaged Brad and I've suggested they open up YouTube on another device so they could hear me that way. In any case, I'll press on with what we've got. And we've also got some questions. So I might put the questions up and see if Linda can respond to those questions. However, going forward, Eric, I think we'd like to play the videos that we'd got lined up. Can we play perhaps the one of the girls, let's say, who were the original witnesses to the event on the 20th? Now, it's important to note that this event was split from the 13th of January, which was when the craft was first seen coming down, and the girls first encountered the ET that they saw with their own eyes. three girls, two sisters and a colleague on their way home from their work as housemaidens and they encountered this being on their way home. So can we run those videos? I don't see them lined up here Eric, but I think you've got them ready. If you can just do the let's see now, I do have them here. I was a 2m of a creature, it was on January 20th of 1996. I, Liliana and Valkyria were together, passing on this terrain, and we were almost like a face, with something strange, a extraterrestrial. And so, he was scared. He was red, with red eyes, with a hair oleosa, with a big head, with three fingers on my hand, a big leg. And that changed my life, transformed my life. It was a place I was suffering in that place, that he was asking for help for me. I couldn't move on to him, looking at him and trying to get something else. So I was going to the direction of him, I was going to help him, I didn't think of consequences, I was going to help him, When I went to take this attitude, she got back, took me back and pulled me. It was where I completely lost me, but then it was not that kind. It was totally different. Why? Because it turned me into a transformation. It made me feel like, why did I not do something? Why did I take him? Why did I take him? Why did I take him? So, it was marked in me. because I feel this creature with me every moment, where I go. So I will always tell my truth. In January, the story has been 30 years, and I have never changed any language, and I will never change it, because this is my truth. So I think what's interesting there is that Liliana picked up on the empathy, and she felt the suffering of the creature. the creature i suggest there was a telepathic communication going on there she said it's never left her i believe there's some connection that was made and maybe continues to this day i think this is the the what many of these witnesses have conveyed that there's a almost like a telepathic communication from the beings that they meant no harm that they were suffering that they were injured. Let's roll video too. Thanks, Eric. We didn't know what it was, but it was very embarrassing. When I looked at her eyes, I felt that she was very afraid. The same way that we were afraid, she also was afraid. It was what she looked at us. And red, brown eyes, had a bright light on the body, as if it had passed oil. And that day marked our life for forever. And there we go again. She sensed it's suffering as well. Let's roll Liliana's testimony now, the third sister. I swear to tell the truth, nothing more than the truth. My name is Luisa Helena da Silva. I'm the mother of the two girls who saw the being. After half an hour, I went to the place, Katia was crying a lot. I got there and saw the pegs, there was a piece of his fingers and the legs of his fingers. Just three fingers, very long, like. And only thing I could have already had there been there. It was the smell of that place that stayed for a long time, for about 20, 25 days, if I don't forget, on my nose. So, after the incident, when the girls saw this person there, I received at my house four men that I never had seen in my life. There were four men, dressed in black, and they were just entering and was making a proposal for me. If I accept that money, open the wallet in my front, say that we would be a millionaire for the rest of my life. It's an insane money. I never saw it in my life. It was a wallet like this. At that time, and one that opened the other just looked at it. I had the impression that they didn't speak our language. only one spoke. He said that it was a lot of money, that we would be rich, that I had to go from here. But they wanted me to... If I was going to a TV show, I would like to go to a TV show, reunir as men and mentir. For example, a example he gave, that as men saw a bezerro, a sick dog, a sick human, I was very scared with this I thought that it was not right And then I asked for them to go there I was very scared of them So I think I could not make a mistake If I didn't see it Now I'm going to make a mistake Because I didn't see anything This is also a lot It's just this I have to say Thank you, Eric. That was the mother of the two girls who taught us about how they were almost, well, the attempts to silence them. And to their credit, they've maintained their story over the 30 years. I think we still have one more to play, and that is the one which is Liliana, I think it's video 5. Do we have that one, Eric? this fiching of a football trap, I caught a creature with low-dial eyes, a black skin, as if it had passed a lot of oil, some veins that would go from the waist to the waist. And when I caught it, I had a terrible feeling, as if the world had stopped. It were more minutes, so many minutes, that I had a film in my life. When I cried to the girls, look at them! I looked at them, I looked at them, and I felt like they were suffering, they were hiding from someone there. And those moments that I fixed them, I was in panic, I didn't know what I was doing, I said, people, let's go. And I started running ahead of them, in the sense of my house. The girls looked at her. It was the same impression, each one saw something, but, scared, I ran away in the sense of my house. Thank you Eric I think what important is that we now been able to thanks to James Fox bring the testimony of all of these people to a wider audience, to the world. And it's worth noting, as Linda mentioned, that eight of those Brazilians were denied visa entry to the United States to present their evidence, whether or not that's part of a geopolitical manoeuvring or whether that is part of the silencing, I don't know, but at least we've been able to give them a voice tonight for our audience. I think that we'd like to really, if we can, Eric, try and link up with Linda. She's back here now and see if we can bring her back in and see if she's able to hear me. And perhaps we could put the questions to her on the screen and then she can answer the questions. So should we bring Linda in? Linda, can you hear me? And see if she's able to hear me. And we could put the questions to her on the screen. And then she can answer the questions. Great, we've got Linda, can you hear me now? I can hear a bit of an echo, so it sounds like I'm on another device there. But I've got some questions for you from the audience. If you're ready to take questions. Ian, what an irony. that historically there were these efforts to close off the truth coming out of that Brazil phenomena. And we now are being subjected to trying to, I guess, close us off from speaking, which is now 30 years later. That's right. And that we are at a, I think, we are getting very close to when this planet has to be told the whole truth. We have never been alone on this planet. There are huge underground bases under many parts of this planet. Humans don't relate to the fact that there can be extraterrestrials out 50,000, 100,000 light years, and they can still have a base on the earth and it's complicated but it is also part of the excitement and what drives me going forward is that this whole planet deserves the truth about who we are and where we came from and why for example if you can hear me it is a fundamental question that I asked the first time I heard about this being. Why is it a brown skin on the outside, but the surgeon reported that the interior skin was white? Yeah, that's a good point. Can you hear that? And do you have any input in this, Ian? And think of the irony of how we are now struggling to just get words out. Yeah, and it was addressed in our comments this evening, and it's a good point. And I'll address that. Now, the three women saw a dark skinned ET and this neurosurgeon describes this as white skin. Apparently, it was dying. And as it was dying, its skin was fading. That's one of the factors that I've heard in all of this, that it was actually losing the pigment of its skin as it deteriorated. How true that is, I don't know, but that's one of the theories that's been postulated and put forward. So that's what they're saying. Also, there were claims, it went on after this. Someone even reported seeing, I think there were two sightings of being in April of that year, of the same type of being. So some may have survived. Now, even one of the Brazilian investigators claims that there were perhaps up to five of them captured at one time. Anyway, I'm going to put these questions up for you, Linda, if that's OK. So here's another question for you, Linda. Do you see that question? Does Linda have any idea what happened to that extraterrestrial once the Air Force took possession of it? I'm right here. Do you want me to ask? Do you see the question on the screen? Can you tell me, read that white band? Does Linda have any idea what happened to the extraterrestrial once the Air Force took possession of it? So, ask me again. What happened to the extraterrestrial? What happened? What happened to the ET? What's the airport ticket? Oh, that is a very good question. And it is what we struggle to understand in the United States, going back to World War II at least, that our government has had interactions with extraterrestrials for a very long time. and what yeah I'm competing with my own voice well take it out while you're speaking alright Ian I think it is almost 25 minutes after 8 and this has been fascinating because look at how hard it has been just to deliver a report with good audio that everybody else said that the equipment and the software should work perfectly and everything would be fine and it hasn't and it may be outside effort to interfere i've had that before but any way you slice it in 2026 this is like the perfect metaphor for an entire species of homo sapien on this huge planet that has never ever been given the truth by intelligences that can put static and divert us being able to know about them. And in a strange way, that same thing happened in Brazil. And I say to people right now that I can't hear any voice. I'm a one-sided communicator. It is extremely odd. But if there are you out there in our Earth Files YouTube channel, do you work for an agency, JSOC, CIA, NSA, DIA? Do you have answers to any of these questions posed tonight by this difficult technology problem. And people, honestly, speaking from Brazil, the parts that they know, which includes that the government, medical people, knew that there were at least more than two or three of these beings in Brazil at the same time of other events occurring. I've heard that. What was it that was happening? If anybody in our audience has more information, even if they need to talk with me secretly or sensitively, I would like to continue to hear from you all who might have information, not specifically about Brazil, but maybe the whole world, of what would be the reason that there would be non-humans coming and building bases deep under the ground instead of facing us and introducing themselves, as I have been told by people who have been with the tall whites, that they actually do have some care about what happens to humans, but that there are some strict banning laws. Well, maybe in the audience tonight, maybe there is somebody who understands more about why we may have been attacked tonight just reporting fundamentally what has been coming from the country and from the people themselves and from medical doctors. why in 2026 would this still be attacked or interfered with? And I throw this back to my colleague Ian before we will fade out all of the fade outs that somebody is superimposing on us. What do you think about this issue, Ian, of straightforward interaction with highly qualified doctors? there were people who were doing a lot of work on this case a long time ago why do you think it could still be sensitive today and that there are still government efforts to keep all of us from knowing well i will address that as well and again although you have to listen to me via a link via youtube you can hear me live now it all worked fine in our rehearsals everything's worked right up until we went live. So I can explain what's happened. I can say that on the eve of the 30th anniversary of this event, the US military official army investigation published two volumes, 600 pages, that concluded the story was fictitious. The military personnel cited by the press did not participate in any operation, transforming any type of cargo, etc., etc. They went to the trouble of creating a 600-page report refuting everything on the 30th anniversary. So it shows that there was a tremendous effort to put forward an official point of view, despite all of this overwhelming evidence that James Fox and his team have brought us and continue to bring us. I've put a question in here for Linda I don't know if you can take that but also Linda are you ready to take this question has Linda ever heard of this type of alien before I will try I've got an earphone I can hear you clearly can you hear me Eric can you hear me we can hear you Linda i guess where we are that it is so difficult when we are not having the two sides of the issues that are being yeah okay uh brought up anyway linda in eric and brad let's promise let's promise let's promise to our Earth Files YouTube audience that we will try to come back at some point when everything is guaranteed but that we're not stopping we will continue to do Earth Files programs and we will continue so yes of course But Linda, let's just remind our audience that you're at Conscious Life Expo in February. And Eric, if you can just put up the and also the link of where our audience can get tickets. So Linda and I will be at Conscious Life Expo. We look forward to seeing any of you who can make it there and who want to come and join us. Come and say hi to us and do come and talk to us and share your experiences. Also share your experiences with us at ian at earthfiles.com and earthfiles at earthfiles.com. Okay. Can you hear me, Linda, if I go back to you for perhaps final words? Great. Yeah. Okay. I can hear you, but you can't hear anything from me. we can hear you Linda we can hear you I understand we've just got a delay at the moment oh okay well yeah and I ask you and Eric before we go off what technically is capable of doing this could this have been done on purpose we don't know I'm also going to remind our audience that we are almost at 300,000 subscribers so if our audience can please like us and subscribe us tonight it all helps thank you very much thank you everyone See you hopefully next week. Yeah, thank you everyone. Okay. Thank you everyone for bearing with us. Sorry about the problems that we've had with the audio. Hopefully we'll be back for another live and we'll continue to work to get our audio right and everything working as it is. So we're going to end the stream now and join us again for more High Strangeness next week. Thank you. Good night. Thanks for listening to this Earth Files podcast from the edges of science, environment and real X-Files. Go to www.earthfiles.com to see more than a thousand Earth Files reports with photographs, drawings, and documents. And visit Earth Files every day, every week, for new reports and new podcasts. That's www.earthfiles.com.