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The Power of Sound Healing with Jeralyn Glass

53 min
Jul 1, 2025about 1 year ago
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Summary

Geraldine Glass, an internationally acclaimed singer and sound healing pioneer, discusses how crystal singing bowls and sound vibrations can heal physical and emotional trauma. The episode explores the science behind sound therapy, its applications for depression, anxiety, and chronic pain, and how anyone can access these healing modalities through apps, retreats, and online resources.

Insights
  • Crystal singing bowls work because human bodies have crystalline structures in blood and bones that resonate with crystalline sound frequencies more effectively than other instruments
  • Sound healing is not one-size-fits-all; individual vibrational signatures mean different frequencies and notes work for different people based on personal resonance
  • Sound creates a safe container for accessing and releasing trapped emotions and trauma that talk therapy alone may not reach, as demonstrated through voice blockages and grief processing
  • The depression and anxiety pharmaceutical industry generates $680 billion annually but only helps 50% of users, creating demand for alternative modalities like sound therapy
  • Grounding sounds (lower frequencies) are more therapeutic than high-pitched sounds for most people, and humming/toning can activate the nervous system's calming response
Trends
Integration of sound healing into hospital settings and pre-operative care protocolsGrowing scientific validation of crystal singing bowls through NIH and Kennedy Center research presentationsShift toward accessible, remote sound healing through apps, YouTube libraries, and virtual classes rather than in-person sessions onlyEmergence of hybrid wellness platforms combining science, spirituality, and music therapy (Source app model)Rising consumer interest in non-pharmaceutical interventions for mental health and chronic pain managementDevelopment of sound healing for specific populations: cancer patients, hospice care, PTSD, veterans, and neurodegenerative diseasesPersonalization of sound therapy based on individual frequency preferences and chakra alignment rather than standardized protocolsOracle decks and gamified wellness tools incorporating QR codes linking to sound healing meditations
Topics
Crystal singing bowls and sound healing modalitiesVibrational frequency and human resonanceTrauma release through sound therapyDepression and anxiety treatment alternativesChakra alignment and sound frequenciesMeditation accessibility through soundNervous system regulation and cortisol reductionVoice training and vocal healthGrief processing and emotional healingBrainwave states and sound-induced meditationCrystalline structure in human biologyPharmaceutical industry limitations in mental healthNature sounds and grounding frequenciesSound healing for neurodegenerative diseasesPersonalized wellness and individual vibrational signatures
Companies
Crystal Cadence
Sound healing studio founded by Geraldine Glass offering private sessions, classes, retreats, and training programs
Hay House Publishing
Published Geraldine Glass's book 'Sacred Vibrations' and Oracle deck with QR codes linking to sound meditations
University of Wisconsin
Health psychologists cited for research on music's healing qualities for depression, dementia, and post-surgery recovery
National Institutes of Health
Hosted presentation by Geraldine Glass in 2023 at Kennedy Center on crystal singing bowls research
Kennedy Center
Venue where Geraldine Glass presented crystal singing bowl research to NIH scientists and music therapists in 2023
People
Geraldine Glass
Internationally acclaimed Broadway and opera singer who pioneered crystal singing bowl sound healing therapy
Shelley Johnson
Co-host of Women Road Warriors podcast interviewing Geraldine Glass about sound healing
Cassie Ticcaro
Co-host of Women Road Warriors podcast, attended sound healing session in Cochrane, Alberta
Dylan Glass
Geraldine Glass's son who used crystal bowls for voice change support and passed away at age 19
Marianne Williamson
Shared stage with Geraldine Glass at science and spirituality conferences
Greg Braden
Shared stage with Geraldine Glass at science and spirituality conferences
Dr. Bruce Lipton
Shared stage with Geraldine Glass at science and spirituality conferences
Maria Shriver
Shared stage with Geraldine Glass at science and spirituality conferences
Gwyneth Paltrow
Celebrity client of Geraldine Glass who described sound healing session as 'magic'
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Star athlete who attended Geraldine Glass performances
Kobe Bryant
Late star athlete who attended Geraldine Glass performances
Rex Harrison
Broadway star in 25th anniversary revival of My Fair Lady where Geraldine Glass performed as youngest cast member
Quotes
"Everything is sound and everything is a frequency and everything is a certain octave and it is true. Certain sounds can really make you just cringe."
Geraldine Glass
"I've been a traditional meditator for 28 years meditating in silence. And I never meditated with sound before. She said, I am no longer afraid of dying and death because I've heard the sounds of heaven."
Geraldine GlassDescribing cancer patient experience
"Sound gives people their permission to breathe. And then their mind begins to quiet because your mind focuses on the sound."
Geraldine Glass
"The sound was still being received in every cell of you. Even when you're sleeping, you're still receiving the sound."
Geraldine Glass
"It literally uplifts and transforms and releases stress that you didn't even know that you had."
Cassie TiccaroDescribing personal sound bath experience
Full Transcript
This is Women Road Warriors with Shelly Johnson and Cassie Ticcaro from the corporate office to the cab of a truck. They're here to inspire and empower women in all professions. So gear down, sit back and enjoy. Welcome. We're an award-winning show dedicated to empowering women in every profession through inspiring stories and expert insights. No topics off limits on our show. We Power Women on the Road to Success with expert and celebrity interviews and information you need. I'm Shelly. And I'm Cassie. It's long been known that music has healing qualities. Music's been used throughout time in many cultures for healing and medicine according to health psychologists at the University of Wisconsin. It can help with depression, dementia, speed healing after surgery, among many other benefits. Geraldine Glass knows the power of music better than anyone. She's an internationally acclaimed singer and pioneer in the field of sound healing. She's the creator of the Source app and author of Sacred Vibrations, the transformative power of crystalline sound and music. Geraldine's known around the globe as a performer. She shared the stage at science and spirituality conferences with esteemed authors and thought leaders like Marianne Williamson, Greg Brayden, Dr. Bruce Lipton, and Maria Shriver, and performed for European presidents and star athletes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and the late Kobe Bryant. She's had many prominent students. She's the founder of Crystal Cadence, a dedicated sound healing studio. We wanted to learn more about how sound can heal and benefit our listeners, so we invited her on the show. Welcome, Geraldine. Thank you for being with us. Thank you so much for the invitation. I'm excited to share with you both. Oh, this is going to be great. Yes, thank you. Your background is amazing, Geraldine. You've been on Broadway and on opera and concert stages across Europe and worldwide. How did you get started in all of this? If you wanted to kind of give our listeners your background, you've done all kinds of things. I know when I look back on my life, I feel incredibly blessed. The thread line, the through line of all of it has been music. I remember very distinctly as a young girl, four years old, twirling around on our front porch and just singing, making sound, moving my body and feeling that this was going to be my life path. Hearing and feeling a connection to what I later would call God, but just feeling this beautiful presence of, oh my goodness, this feels so good. This is what I'm going to do with my life. And that's indeed how it all unfolded. When I was 11, I was in the middle school choir and I sang a solo. And people said to my parents, what are you going to do? She's talented. And at that point, there was none of these. America's Got Talent or The Voice or anything like that. And they took me to a neighbor who is today 102 years old. And she was a very well-known voice teacher. She dubbed the voice of Ava Gardner in the MGM musical showboat. And she dubbed all of Lucille Ball's movies. And she had never taken anyone that young. And excuse me, I started my voice lessons with her. And that really put me on this path of really wanting to communicate through sound and music and the human voice. So you became a music major at what, in college? And then you went on to Broadway? I mean, what was your... No, not really. I think I took a very unusual path. I had my first leading role when I was 16 in our community theater and I sang Maria in the sound of music. And then I was studying acting and voice privately. And I started at the university and it was like, it was very clear what I wanted to do. And my parents always said to me, my dad was really encouraging of me to follow my dreams. But he prepared me. Katya, I mean, he said, Gerald, you have to understand that if you're... Are you willing to pay the price to make your dreams come true? Are you willing to do the hard work? And he said, if you are willing to put in that time and really hone your skills, then go for it with everything you have. And so I did. I prepared auditions, I worked on my craft, and then I went to New York and auditioned. And my first professional show was Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ Superstar. Yeah, I mean, and it just unfolded from there. Oh my goodness, that is huge. To be able to land a role like that. How old were you when you got back? 19. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then, you know, I did a national tour of showboat and then I was cast as the youngest cast member in the 25th anniversary revival of My Fair Lady starring Rex Harrison. And I got to play Rex Harrison's Upstairs Maid. And it was really, really cool. We toured the United States and then we came back and played on Broadway. And after that, I just wanted to explore a broader expression of music. And I ended up going to Juilliard and studying classical music formally. And then that happened really fast too. I got accepted in the Zurich Opera Studio, which is like a young apprentice program. And they take a handful of students from all around the world. And there I was in Europe as singing opera. So it was, wow. Yeah, it's, yeah, very cool. So were you a Colortura soprano? That's a good question. I was a lyric coloratura soprano. So for those of you who know classical music or opera, the highest role that I sang was Blanchine in The Abduction from the Sororario by Mozart. And that goes up to, you have to be able to hit three high E's. So I never did The Queen of the Night, which is high F's. I wasn't that high of a voice. But I love to play these kind of sassy maids. And I guess when I think about it, that started with My Fair Lady. And my family would always tease me and say, goodness sakes, that was definitely not typecasting, having you play a maid. But I had a ton of fun. That would be a fun show to be in. So you've had quite the background and you've pivoted in many directions. And what a wonderful opportunity to study at Juilliard too. It's a mecca of opportunity in New York with music and performance. And then you decided what? To get into sound, the healing of sound. How did all that evolve? Well, that's so interesting too, because I think as a singer, and I want to share this with everybody, that we all understand that we are this human instrument. And every single one of us has our own unique vibrational signature. So I always followed that philosophy. And then when I became a professor and I was teaching young people to sing, it wasn't that you needed to copy someone or be like this or sound like this. It was the beauty of discovering as I spent my life doing, what's my unique timbre? What's my unique way of expressing? So whether you sing or not, everybody can speak. And so what is your unique vibrational signature? And I learned as a singer that I had to project my special energy, my color, my one of a kind uniqueness, through these two tiny vocal chords, sometimes into theaters that had 3,000 seats without any amplification. So you learn to be this, you learn to understand you're a vibratory instrument. And I think that joy, I understood that. And about 18 years ago, I came back from Europe and I was traveling with my mom, and we heard somebody do a presentation about the crystal singing bowls. And at that time, I had been into the Tibetan singing bowls, the metal singing bowls. And like for example, I had done a tour of Japan, and I remember bringing my two little Tibetan singing bowls, and before performances, I would put them on my belly, I would tone with them, I would warm up my voice with them, and it's just, ha, ha, ha, just making different sounds. But when I heard those crystal bowls, it was a totally different sound. And I was like, mom, I have to get, I have to get some of these, because they inspired sort of a memory of an ancient, I can't explain it in such that, you know, when you hear different pieces of music and you go, oh my gosh, that resonates so much with me, there was something about those crystal bowl sounds that was like, I know these sounds, they're beautiful. And so I brought seven bowls back to Germany and started using them with my students and my clients, just, I'm going to say just for fun, because I thought they were so beautiful, just like an instrument. And as the years progressed, I understood that those instruments had the ability to help us quiet our mind, you know, because you hear this beautiful, this beautiful sound, and suddenly it's like, wow, that's music. And then suddenly your mind becomes still and you begin to drop deeper into yourself. And so, you know, I've been playing them 18 years, but really using them fully in therapy for the last just about 10 years. For our listeners, what exactly are the crystal singing bowls? What were they used for originally? And what do they do? Ah, that's a, it's very interesting. So imagine in the 80s in Silicon Valley, and they were creating computer chips, and the whole computer industry was really starting to grow. So they needed pure, they used these pure quartz crucibles, which could be fired at high temperatures to work with these pieces that they needed for the computer, the computer chips. And then they discovered that some of those made a beautiful sound if you tap them. And some of them, of course, cracked and were destroyed in the process. But that's how the crystal singing bowls began in the 80s. And in the year 2000, the alchemy bowls started to be made with the infusion of, let's say, amethyst, salt, charcoal, citrine. So then you have these alchemies that are powerful in themselves. Those of you who love crystals and love or sepsis, frankincense, you know, they do have an energy. And when those are fired with the pure quartz, as you play those singing bowls, those elements get amplified. So they're not just the plain quartz bowls, they've got other components. So they're not just visually beautiful, but something gets added to the sound. This is so cool. It is. We'll learn more about these crystal bowls, including how they sound coming up. Stay tuned for more of Women Road Warriors coming up. Industry movement Trucking Moves America Forward is telling the story of the industry. Our safety champions, the women of trucking, independent contractors, the next generation of truckers, and more. Help us promote the best of our industry. Share your story and what you love about trucking. Share images of a moment you're proud of. And join us on social media. Learn more at truckingmovesamerica.com. Welcome back to Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Takarov. We're also available wherever you listen to podcasts on all the major podcast channels like Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Amazon Music, Audible, you name it. Check us out and bookmark our podcast. Also, don't forget to follow us on social media. We're on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, LinkedIn, YouTube, and other sites. And tell others about us. We want to help as many women as possible. For centuries, music has been used across cultures to heal the body and soothe the soul. And modern science backs it up. Studies show music can ease depression, support dementia patients, and even speed post-surgery recovery. Geraldine Glass knows this power firsthand. She's an internationally acclaimed singer and pioneer in sound healing. She's the creator of the Source app, author of Sacred Vibrations, the transformative power of crystalline sound in music, and founder of Crystal Cadence, a sound healing studio. She's had many celebrity clients and she's performed for world leaders and appeared alongside thought leaders like Marianne Williamson and Maria Shriver. Geraldine uses crystal singing bowls to help people tap into their unique vibrational signature and begin the process of healing. Geraldine? So, sound healing. How does it work? You talk about the transformative power of crystalline sound in music. What is crystalline sound? I know that our listeners probably have no idea what all of this is. Okay, so that is a great question. I'm just going to tap a few bowls for you so you can hear. So just take a listen. Okay. Wow. So what I just played for you, take a listen. This would be a very low sound. So can you feel the resonance and can you feel and hear the beauty of those sounds? Yes. So what I just played for you were octaves. I played a low C in octave three, a middle C in octave four and a high C in octave five. The last three notes that I played and there's so much to be said about the physics of sound, the theory of sound as you said in the introduction, sound has been used really in just about every culture since the beginning of time. People used vibration, they came together, they drummed together, they sang together, they played their wooden flutes, the ancient aborigines used their yadaki or the old form of a didgeridoo. So just feel how good one feels when one hears sound in music and it's a way that brings us together in community. But what makes the crystal bowl so special is that we ourselves as human beings, we have a crystalline structure to us. So I was fascinated to learn this because as I said, I loved the Tibetan, the metal singing bowls, but when I heard these I was like, oh wow. So our blood has a crystalline structure and our bones have a crystalline structure. And there's something about that similarity that allows us to receive these vibrations perhaps easier than anything else. That's amazing. And when you think about it, life, our world, everything is sound and everything is a frequency and everything is a certain octave and it is true. Certain sounds can really make you just cringe. Yes. Well like somebody scraping their finger nail on the chalkboard, for instance. That's always bugged me. There are certain sounds I just do not like, but then there are others that draw me in. That's interesting that you say that. So can I speak into that? Mm-hmm. So what started me on this path really, really using sound as a medicine because, you know, before that time, 10 years ago, I was a musician that loved sound and loved to watch how it affected people. But in my own life, 10 years ago, I lost my only child and he was 19 and he knew the bowls really well. So from the time he was little, when I brought the bowls home, he was seven and he'd always say, Mommy, why don't you bring me to bed with my sound blanket? So I'd give him a form of a sound bath. I didn't know what I was doing at that time, but we'd say our prayers, we would do little meditation and he'd fall asleep. And then when he was 13, he was in a big national singing contest in Germany and he made it to the semi-finals and a week before the semi-final audition, his voice started to drop. And at that point as a professor, I had never guided a young person through their voice change. And so we used the singing bowls and we actually used a little G note. G corresponds to the throat chakra and the alchemy of that bowl was citrine, which works with your personal power, your confidence and your courage. It's yellow. And so he knew those bowls really well and he stood up to do his audition and he said, Hello, my name is Dylan and since one week, no longer a soprano and everybody roared and I watched my son step on that stage and perform in a way that I never dreamed was possible as he was going through his voice change. So the bowls have this ability to, I don't know, I mean, for so many people, it's different. I have worked with cancer patients, hospice patients, veterans, worked with PTSD with children. But when I went on my own journey, when I lost him, I remember that the first bowl I played was a bowl I knew. It's alchemy with selenite. Selenite is a beautiful white kind of stone and it's about grounded white light and protection. When I played that bowl, it started screeching like nails on a chalkboard and I'm like, Jeryl, what is going on here? Like I had no idea, Kathine, I had no idea how this beautiful instrument could suddenly sound like what you said, nails on a chalkboard. And of course, me as a professor and an artist, I was like, what are you doing wrong? Like what's happening with your technique? And it was like what I came to learn was that bowl, that crystalline instrument, was reflecting to me my grief that I could not express. And I had been in talk therapy trying to just talk it through. What happened? It can't have been my life, my child. It couldn't have been. You know, and you can talk, talk, talk, but when we have deep things that happen in our lives, whether it's illnesses or losses and grief, so whatever it is in our lives and we all have things, I couldn't talk it through. I mean, I could talk it through, but it didn't shift it. And as I started to play the bowl and it had this sound like nails on a chalkboard in time, not then in that moment, but in time I began to realize, oh my, that bowl was reflecting my grief. Because after I played that one single bowl about 50 minutes, I started in the process to just cry and keen and groan. And I got up to go wash my face and I saw for the first time since my childhood died that there was light in my eyes. And it was like, oh my dear ones, something, something's happening here. But, you know, I was exploring in an incredibly personal way. It wasn't as a musician and it wasn't as a teacher. It was, how do I move my own grief? How do I even feel it? Yeah. It was a very deep healing. Yeah. And so sometimes sounds, you know, can be discordant or they can be screechy like that. And they may be helping us to dislodge and release trapped energies. But like, for example, when I'm working with sound, if I would make this sound, that's not as pretty as this sound. Right? Right. Right. Right. The first one is a little more discordant. Yeah, I was going to say discordant. Yeah. I technically don't work with giving people sounds that are very discordant. I prefer to create a really safe space and to really work with people in a gentle and just integral manner so that you feel you're at the, how do I say it? You're at the core of your own healing work. I don't want to impose a dissonant sound on somebody and say, I'm going to shake this out of you. I want people to feel as I did as I started working with sound safe enough that suddenly past traumas or things that you've covered start to reveal themselves in a way that's comfortable for you, you know, and you are able to go through the discomfort in a way that you feel safe. So like when I first brought the bolts back to Germany, I was working with some of my students and if one of my particular students had a blockage in her voice, she couldn't get up into her higher register. And so I had her choose one of the bowls and I had her make sounds and it was actually this note. It's a note of a D and I had her make sounds with it and suddenly her whole voice opened up and then she remembered a childhood trauma. So this was kind of like one of my first experiences, not yet being working with sound as a healing modality, but she remembered a trauma. She started crying. She expressed the memory and then the voice really opened up and I was like, whoa, like the sound of the bowl with her in training her voice to that sound opened a whole level of healing that I don't know that we could have ever gotten to. This is amazing. I mean, I wanted to express my condolences for your son, the loss of your son. It's very traumatic. Yeah, that's awful. Yeah. And yet, you know, thank you very much. I mean, and yet, you know, I think all of us have a bigger picture of our lives, a bigger purpose, you know, and I'll tease now because he communicates with me through sound and I'll tease and go son, you know, I don't remember signing that soul contract with you that you were going to go before me. And when I see you, we're going to have a little talk about it, you know, but it's like all of us have a bigger view of our lives. And for me to really understand over the years, you know, it's been a process now these past 10 years, but to understand my son and I, we had a soul contract and he was going to go earlier. And, you know, I saw that I had the choice to sit in grief the rest of my life, or I had the choice to do something about it. And I just recognized if I didn't feel the grief and process it and deal with it, I probably never get out of my bed. And that began this journey for me then into sound after the experience I described to you about playing that one bowl. And I started to volunteer for cancer patients and started to lead soundbaths. Now, understand, you know, here's a singer, a Broadway and classical singer, I've never led a meditation. And I started to script myself, myself meditations and offer them to the cancer patients and my life and their lives began to transform. And it was like, oh my gosh, there's something here that's beyond what any of us are comprehending. And yet as it developed over these last 10 years, many people were healed and many lives changed. And of course, for those people whose destiny it was to pass, they passed. But they passed with this blanket and this comfort of sound holding them and this bigger understanding of this bigger viewpoint of our destiny, of our lives. Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Stay tuned for more of Women Road Warriors coming up. Industry movement Trucking Moves America Forward is telling the story of the industry, our safety champions, the women of trucking, independent contractors, the next generation of truckers and more. Help us promote the best of our industry, share your story and what you love about trucking, share images of a moment you're proud of and join us on social media. Learn more at TruckingMovesAmerica.com. Welcome back to Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Takarov. We've been talking about the power of music, not just as entertainment, but as a tool for healing. And it's not just ancient wisdom anymore. Research shows music can help with depression, dementia, even recovery from surgery. It can calm us and take us into a deeper level of ourselves. Geraldine Glass knows this very well. She's an internationally recognized singer, a trailblazer in sound healing and the founder of Crystal Cadence. She created the Source app, wrote Sacred Vibrations, the transformative power of crystalline sound and music, and has worked with celebrities, world leaders and visionaries. Using Crystal Singing Bowl, she helps people discover their own unique vibrational frequency and heal from the inside out. We've been listening to just a little of that power, especially the power that Geraldine's been able to bring to people who are ill in the healing power of sound and music. Shelley, have you ever attended one of these sound healing sessions? I have not. I have. Okay. Here in Cochrane, this tiny little town at the base of the Rocky Mountains in Alberta, Canada, my mother and my niece and myself, they brought me here to this sound. It was like an hour long meditation, kind of exactly what you're talking about. And I have to say, like I had a lot of things going on in my life at the time and so did my niece. And it actually, well, number one, I fell asleep. But number two, I woke up feeling different than when I fell asleep. I can't explain it, but all I can say is from personal experience, that sound, the vibration as you're laying there, as it reverberates, is that a word? You have reverberates into your astral body, your soul body, just everything that you're made of. It literally uplifts and transforms and releases stress that you didn't even know that you had. And my niece, who has a hard time doing meditation and stuff, this actually helped. She's got a lot of anxiety and has a hard time sitting still. This really, really helped her so much to the point that she bought herself her own bowl. She ordered one just so that it could help her. So yes, I believe in it 100%. What you experienced is the sound quieted your mind and you went to sleep. But the sound was still being received in every cell of you. I mean, I always laugh, there was one situation where I was doing a sound bath and five men were in the front row and boom, boom, boom. All five went out and started snoring. I mean, it was just such a humorous experience because it'll take you to that very deep place. But even when you're sleeping, as you said, you're still receiving the sound. And that I just recently, I wrote about in the book about just our pain industry and how many millions and millions of dollars it costs. But now I just heard on last a few days ago, the industry for depression and anxiety has become a $680 billion industry. And those medicines help 50% of the people, only 50% of the time. And then the pain medicine is even less than that, 40% of the people. So it's like when you describe your knees, was it your knees? Yeah, my knees. It's like, how do we help ourselves? How do we help young people? How do we help our family members? There's not a pill necessary that you can take. It's like with my student that I described, would she ever have gotten into that trauma? Maybe it would have reared its head at some point and she might not have been able to identify it. But the sound created again, this safety that sometimes she just expressed it. And there's so many things, especially now in our world that are helping to really cause a lot of anxiety and depression and nervousness and illness for people. And it's like sound and sound played with intention and with technique can help us go in those places and breathe and feel them and release them. Well, just think of the sound of the ocean, right? Or the sound of running water by a creek when you're sitting there and you're closing your eyes, you're just listening. Or the sound of the rustling leaves. Or the sound of birds singing. It could be the basics. It doesn't have to be, you know, exorbitant. It could be the simple things. If we close our eyes and tune into it and open ourselves and allow ourselves to have that sound enter us and mix with our vibrations, I think. Shelly, you gotta try it. Oh, you gotta. Well, you know, I just do. I very much resonate with sound. I've been a, I was originally a music major. So I mean, I love, I hear music everywhere. And I, maybe that's one of the reasons I love spring so much. I live in an area, obviously, that gets cold in the wintertime and it's so quiet. But yet the world comes alive and you hear the birds and you hear all of the different things. It's the sound. Maybe that's what I resonate with, that I'm coming alive again. I'm curious as to how this sound therapy works. What exactly is happening with the body? Well, I mean, there's been a lot of studies now and we're just starting to study the crystal bowls because they're a relatively new instrument. Really, as I said earlier, since the year 2000, we're starting to study them now. But sound has been known to help stop or reduce the production of cortisol. So help that fight or flight impulse that we get. It changes the body's chemistry, helps to produce more dopamine in the body, can help to produce more leukocytes to strengthen the immunity. So, you know, sound is being integrated into hospitals, like before operations. Sound is being integrated. I just had an incredible experience with a Parkinson's patient where I was playing. We were actually in a larger group and everybody was toning with the bowls and he just had an experience where he was steady on his feet and he just said, Gerald, what's happening? Explain it to me. He said, I'm not wobbling anymore. Right? So sound has been used and can be used. It helps to steady the nervous system. And again, with the crystal bowls, we're beginning to really explore what is it doing. But I think the interesting thing, one of the most interesting things is that there is no one size fits all. So just as I explained, like, I can't say to you, okay, take that C major chord and make sure it has the alchemy of amethyst and rose quartz and salt. And that's going to do it for your nervous system. It's really like, think about what kind of music you like. So Shelly, when you're driving, you know, what do you like to listen to? You know, it depends on what I'm doing, but I tend to like to rock it. Rock it aloud. Right. And when you think about, you know, people have said over the years, oh, Baroque music, you need to listen to Vivaldi or Bach or Handel. It's not just that we're finding that the real intense bass and the rhythm of pop music or rap music in a certain way is very soothing for people. So it's really finding what you respond to and what you love. The crystal bowls are a different thing in the sense that they create like this carpet of smooth sound, a sound with a lot of overtones and vibrations. So like, Kathy, what you were describing, you, you just go deeply out. But in that moment, your subconscious is still very, very active and it's receiving the sound, you know, and we can talk about the sound taking us into different brainwave states that you go, you know, very, you know, very deep brainwave state or that it activates people. I've had people that get very excited and say after soundbath, I got all these creative ideas. Right. So it's what feels good to you in the moment. You know, it's kind of interesting. I like to listen to music, but if I'm doing something that's extremely boring, like technical writing or something like that, I can't listen to the music because I want to get up, dance, play, do something. It takes my mind off of what I'm focused on. And I listen to a lot of music when I'm cleaning because I hate to clean. It gets me motivated. If I'm outside working in my garden, that sort of thing, it just adds to what I'm doing. And I think it helps with my motivation. It makes me feel good. So it definitely has a purpose. And of course I, I change up the kind of music I'm listening to. And you know what was said earlier, like just go outside of nature. Oh yeah. Touch a tree, take some deep breaths, fill your feet on the ground and listen to the birds or listen to the trickling of the water. Like it's just sound and reverberation is, is something that really soothes our nervous system. Stay tuned for more of Women Road Warriors coming up. Industry movement, Trucking Moves America Forward is telling the story of the industry. Our safety champions, the women of trucking, independent contractors, the next generation of truckers and more. Help us promote the best of our industry. Share your story and what you love about trucking. Share images of a moment you're proud of. And join us on social media. Learn more at Trucking MovesAmerica.com. Welcome back to Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Takarov. Music and sound are powerful tools for healing. Modern research backs what ancient cultures have long known. Music can ease depression and mend what ails us. Our guest, Cherylyn Glass, lives this truth. She's a world-renowned singer, sound healing pioneer and founder of Crystal Catons. She created the Source app, wrote Sacred Vibrations, the transformative power of crystal and sound in music, and has worked with global leaders and celebrities. Through crystal singing bowls, she helps people unlock their unique vibrational frequency and heal from within. Sound has a positive impact on the body in so many ways. We're learning about it. You know, Cherylyn, you've helped a lot of people, a lot of celebrities. Gwyneth Paltrow had said that a session with you is magic. This is so interesting. What do you do with people and can our listeners actually reach out to you and work with you remotely? How does all of this work? Oh, thank you for asking. I adore Gwyneth, yeah. Yes, they can. On our website, crystalcatons.com, there's different ways you can work with me in private sessions. You can study in like an introductory class. So for people who just want to learn more about what is this, what's the theory behind it, what's the science behind it, you know, more about what we're talking about, I offer these introductory classes that are virtual. And then I offer, for example, we're offering an in-person retreat in August. First time that I'm doing that, but the wishes and the requests have been so many over the years for people that don't want to study about the bowls because I teach over 120 hours of trainings with the actual bowls. But this is going to be a healing retreat for everybody. And again, you know, we need to find more and more ways that the average person can integrate music as a medicine for themselves, whether it's a physical pain or an emotional pain or whatever it is, anxiety, depression. So yeah, everything's listed on our website, crystalcatons.com. And then I have a lot of music. So there's a YouTube channel that has, I think, over 200 meditations that are free. It's like a free library. And my son was very adamant about mom, you've got to make this available for everybody, you know. And so there's that way on our YouTube channel. And then we've created, as you said in the intro, we've created an app called Source Be Inspired. And it's a platform that's also on our website. And it's a platform where science, spirituality, and the healing power of music all intersect on this app. So we have some talks by leading scientists. There's sound bass, there's bioenergetics, there's tuning forks, there's body movement and yoga. So it's, I really feel impassioned to bring this information to everybody. The app has a free version and then there's a very inexpensive yearly plan for it. And new content is coming on regularly. It's just, I feel like we need to be empowered now. We do. It's very important. So yeah, people can reach me at crystalcatons.com. You know, I think that the proper sounds, if they resonate with people, as you were saying, discordant, I think the chaos that we have in our world makes us feel unbalanced at a discord. I know that I've always been very sensitive to sound and maybe frequencies. I know this is not necessarily a sound, but it is a frequency. MRIs bother me. They just really make me cringe. It's the vibration, I think it's the magnetic force behind it. But I really don't feel good after I've been around something like that. So when you think about it with all the discord we have in life, that could add to our feeling like crap and really hurt our health in many ways. It's very interesting that you bring that up. It's so true. Like it's the high pitches. So like also for me, also at the dentist when they're using the high pitch, what it's a very good thing for all people to just integrate is just hum. Unless they tell you don't do that, then it will interrupt. But I know when I go to the dentist, she knows that I'm going to be humming as best I can, defending what's being done. But humming can help calm your nervous system also. So remembering that we are our own resonant singing bowl. We're it. Yeah. I use the word hue. It's an ancient mantra or an ancient name for God. And when I do that, and they call it the sound of soul, and I just sing it over and over and over. And it kind of goes like this hue over and over. And it really it is. I've been singing this since I've been 14 and it reconnects me. It re it when I'm anxious or when I'm whatever it just it grounds me. It brings me back to where I need to be. And it really helps. And it's different if I just hum it quietly or if I do it out loud or different tones. And so for me, it's been like magic. It just it's really transformed my life and it helps me. So yes, you're right. Even just saying during the dentist, it will help. Yeah, but hue is I use that a lot with the cancer patients hue. People like also oh, yeah, they do too. Or they like ma really dropping your jaw and toning the ma. Ma, hue, ohm are incredibly powerful. What happens is it something within our inner ear? What goes on when you make a sound like that? Oh, there's a lot to say about that. I mean, we talk about ohm being the sound of creation, you know, so it depends, you know, hue, you have a certain vowel. Ma, you have the vowel, ohm, you have the ah, oh, ohm. So it's different vowels do different things in our bodies. And again, it's so interesting to say that there's really no one size fits all because hue has been fantastic for you. Somebody else might say, oh, I really resonate with the ohm and someone else might say, I really resonate with the ma. And someone else might say, and I just love to hum. So it's really finding what again is resonant for you and what feels like it empowers you. Quiet's your mind so that you, you know, as you were saying you just feel at peace. Now with the sounds, does that assist people if they want to be better at meditation? Sure. And I think what's been so interesting about the singing bowls coming more and more popular, again, first the metal bowls for hundreds of years. And now the crystal bowls is that for many people, as you understand, it's hard to sit and be quiet in meditation. But when you describe like going to your first sound bath in your, in your hometown, like sound gives people their permission. Oh, you know, it's like when I first heard the bowls, it's like, oh, their music. I get it. Right. So sound gives people the permission to breathe. And then their mind begins to quiet because your mind focuses on the sound. And when you're just doing a traditional meditation, like for example, I had a cancer patient who after her first sound bath with me and I would employ my voice in the sound bath. She just said, Geraldine, I don't know how to put this into words, but she said she had stage four liver cancer. And she just said, I've been a traditional meditator for 28 years meditating in silence. And I never meditated with sound before. She said, I am no longer afraid of dying and death because I've heard the sounds of heaven. Wow. So it was an auditory thing for her that changed her whole perception of what it means to meditate. So I think from the average person is hard for us to sit still, right? And quiet our minds. But if you have music going on, that gives us really an ability to be more at ease as we come into silence. And then it gives us a safety once again to explore our inner world. Because when you ask yourself, where does healing happen? How does healing happen? Is it the pill? Is it the operation? Is it my prayers? Is it my meditation? Is it going out in nature and being just surrounded by these beautiful sounds of nature? I feel like this is a question I've been asking myself. How am I healing? How am I helping people to heal? And when my son died, so many people said to me, yeah, you're never going to get over it. So just live with it. But in that kind of way. And it was just like, wow. And I could feel him like, mom, you know, it's not something that you're going to carry a sadness for the rest of your life. He didn't want that. And yet it's a fine line. If that makes sense to you both, it's a fine line between how do I accept my fate and my destiny? Yes, there are days where I miss him so dearly. And imagine, you know, if he was alive, what would he be creating? Who would he have become as a person? But then also that feeling of sound helping me to be at peace, to be at a deep sense of acceptance. You know, and the idea of living the rest of your life just in grief is just, I don't feel like that's how we were made to be. No. You know, but how do we deal with the challenges and how do we heal? How do we at least bring light? And, you know, as we talk about like when a bowl breaks, for example, there's, if it's like three or four pieces, sometimes the bowl can be repaired. And it's sort of like, if the bowl is healed or morphed, how, when our hearts get broken, how do we knit them back together? How do we do that? Because, you know, think about a wound on your finger or whatever, and you get a scab and then the wound heals and then you don't see any trace of it anymore. How do we as human beings activate that ability within each of us to transform and heal? And for me, sound really became that medicine. And I'm just so passionate about sharing it with people because everybody has access to music. Yeah. It's a fabric that really connects all organisms, isn't it? When you think about it? I think so. Yeah. I call it the golden thread. I love that, Kathy. Golden thread. Yes. That's, that's profound. So, Geraldine, do people just reach out to you on your website? I mean, you have so many resources here. You've got your book, Sacred Vibrations, and you also have your Crystal Catons website, as well as your Geraldine Glass website too. There's so many things that people can tap into. This is terrific. Yes. And we also created that first project I did with Hay House Publishing was an Oracle deck. And that was something that my son really guided me to do. And we actually did the first of its kind Oracle deck that has QR codes on the card. So when you choose a card like an Oracle deck, if you guys don't know what that is, like angel cards, and you have a deck of 48 cards, and you choose one, you may ask a question or just, what's my message for today? But the QR code then leads you to the sound of the singing bowl. So it's also a fun way for people to have access to the sound and have a special personalized message for them. So yeah, and then we have social media. We're on Instagram and threads. And I just try to put out as much calming and loving and compassionate energy in the world as I can through sound. I'd be delighted to hear from many of you who are intrigued by this world of sound and music as medicine. And everything is on the website. We do have also a members portal. And the members portal was also designed because people wanted to have these kinds of conversations monthly. So we have a live Q&A with me monthly. And then there's always a guest speaker in the members portal. That's, we have also now a library, I think of six years of very well-known people, some of the people that I've worked with over the years. And then you have a new meditation, a sound healing meditation every month. So that's another way that's listed on the Crystal Kitten's website, the members portal. This is so neat. Is there a particular note that is the most calming? Because everything's a frequency and everything is a note, really. Is there one that you would maybe recommend for people to use? Take a listen to this, because that's a great question. And I'll come back to all the time. There's no one size fits all, but take a listen here. Music So you might recognize that as Dover Mifaso Latido. Yeah, we call it music, the C major scale. You know, can I say that one of those sounds is the one that's going to do it? No. And each of those bowls, as you'll see, if the guests explore my website and my YouTube channel and all those things, you'll see that each of the sets that I play is different. And each of the alchemies of the bowls is different. And then you add to it, well, what's the tuning of the set? So music today is 440 Hertz. Some of the bowls are tuned to 528 Hertz and some are tuned to 432 Hertz. Which do you like better? You know, so again, it's like this personal journey that's, I love to help people curate if they want to purchase bowls, to curate sets of bowls that are really designed for you and what's going on with you. So it's a world that's just, it's so rich and there's so many possibilities inherent in the world of sound. Yeah, so I would say if I had to give you one pointer, I'd say it would be important for people to start with a grounded sound. It would be important to have a sound that's more like this. Or even like this one. Something that's more grounding as opposed to this one. You wouldn't want to start with a really high note because that's going to take you out of the body. You know, and we've talked about nature in our conversation. Nature is grounding. And it's important that we are grounded and anchored that we're not floating all over the place, right? So I would say a grounded sound, whatever that feels good to you, would be an important first note. But I don't want to say to you, it's a C, it's a C sharp or because it's going to be individual. I can get really nerdy and technical about stuff. So it's like, just what feels good to you and is it a sound that makes me feel grounded? That would be important. This has been so insightful, Darryl and I really appreciate that. It truly, truly has. Thank you. Yes. Oh, my pleasure. It's fun when people are interested because it's definitely, you know, I got to present in Washington, D.C. in 2023 for the Kennedy Center, the National Institutes of Health and Leaning Scientists and Researchers. And most of them had never heard the Crystal singing bowls before and they were blown away. I mean, they were really blown away what they felt and music therapists were there. I just feel like this is, you know, these are definitely new instruments and they are so beautiful that it helps people pretty immediately. So it's exciting. So thank you for giving me the opportunity to chat and share my passion. Well, thank you for sharing with us. I think this is transformative for so many people on so many levels. We appreciate you being on the show, Gerald and this has been terrific. Thank you. Thank you again. Yes. Thank you so much for your insights. So most welcome. For more on the podcast, just click the power network tab on womenroadwarriors.com. You'll have a variety of shows to listen to anytime you want to. Podcasts made for women. Women Road Warriors is on all the major podcast channels like Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Audible, YouTube and others. Check us out and please follow us wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening. I'm Gerald. If you want to be a guest on the show or have a topic or feedback, email us at sjohnsonatwomenroadwarriors.com.