Antifa: Lessons From Seattle

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The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. Alright welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour two is underway. We are joined by Jason Rantz, a Seattle survivor, longtime Seattle resident and he's got a website, SeattleRed.com. SeattleRed.com. Jason, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you. Thanks for having me. You know, we were on a show last night together with Katie Pavlich and News Nation arguing about the virtues of sanctuary cities and we had the, what is that guy's name? Chris Hahn, the aggressive progressive. Yeah. And we were, I couldn't hear you half the time because he kept interrupting us. So I was like, Jason, we have to have you back on the show. So explain to us what is going on in Seattle then relate it to Minnesota. You have been around these communist front groups longer than just about anybody in the country. You see it up close and personal in the Pacific Northwest. How big is this movement? How militarized are they? How organized are they? Explain it for our audience, please. Jason Rantz. So it is very organized, but it's not nearly as large as it once was. And I was thinking about it this morning for a column I'm doing. I mean, go back to Black Lives Matter in 2020. And this was right at the start really of the pandemic before a lot of people came to their senses and they were terrified to go outside because we were told not to. And yet there were millions of people nationwide who actually did in fact take to the streets. And that was all based on a lie cut to what's been going on for the last few months. The organizing has arguably gotten even more favorable press coverage. There's still a lot of misinformation and just flat out lies happening. And yet we're not seeing the same number of people out on the ground. It's the same folks over and over and over again who are showing up. And sure it's grown a little, but there's no doubt about that. And not everyone who shows up to these protests are sort of that professional activist class. But the same level of organizing, the same level of strategy is at play. And it's this progressive protest industrial complex where you've got a bunch of folks, in this case, either activists within the community who are part of the organization or it's Democrat lawmakers, far left lawmakers who are encouraging you in this case to interfere with ICE operations. Go out there, get in their faces, put your bodies on the line. That's a quote from some of these lawmakers and activists. And they end up creating a situation in which someone likes Alex Freddy ends up getting killed. Then they use that death to create more outrage that then just creates that vicious circle to get more people to then go out and interfere with ICE and put their bodies on the line and then lead to this next confrontation that ends up taking someone's life. And it just makes folks a whole bunch of money. It gets people more follows on social media and it gets them more favorable press coverage. And we see this happening over and over and over again. It's not going to stop, but it's certainly not growing at the same level that the BLM movement grew. And that's obviously a good thing because it means at least some of the American voters, the average person who's looking at this are saying, OK, we want sensible immigration reform. We want some semblance of immigration law being enforced. And they're not falling for the far left position that underlines everything that they're doing here. They are against on the radical left all enforcement of immigration laws. That is a radical position that is not shared by the vast majority of this country. And I think that explains why we're not seeing this movement grow at the same level as we saw during the BLM movement. So, Jason, you've seen this unfold over a pretty long period of time in Seattle. They've had Antifa type stuff for ages. They had the explosion of homelessness there. It felt like Seattle was in really severe crisis about five years ago. I remember Seattle is dying and all of that. And it seems to me, obviously, it's still a blue city. Obviously, it still has a lot of problems, but it does seem to have pulled back from the, you know, autonomous zone level crisis they were in. Are there any lessons from that for how the whole country might regard this national Antifa as they? What? How do people kind of? How do you defeat this process that they enact on us to use the kind of weaponized weakness against the system? Well, it's interesting because had we had this conversation a few months ago, my answer would have been a little bit more clear as it's going to be, because unfortunately, the voters just took a giant step backwards or took a mile backwards. Because after all that nonsense with the autonomous zone, the voters put in place someone who is at least perceived to be a little bit more moderate. Now, I didn't view our last mayor as moderate, but he was booted out of office for a socialist, an open socialist who has already instituted a bunch of plans that's sending us back in the wrong direction. So I don't know if Seattle voters learn their lesson. Now, if you look back and you're just kind of dweeby like me and you look at the general, I don't know, algorithm of voters here is the Seattle base of radicals, they push us very, very, very far to the left. Then the voters say, OK, let's dial it back a notch. Then you see some results, but then they go and say, OK, well, now that we saw some, of course, correction, let's go back in the crazy direction. And so that's where we're at right now. We're headed back in that crazy direction. And this whole idea of the protesters and how organized they are. Like yesterday, there was yet another march in downtown Seattle, ruining all the traffic again. And they were doing this because they wanted to speak in solidarity with what's going on in Minneapolis. Again, it's the same people who show up every single time who are engaged in this and they're allowed to do whatever it is they want to do because they're doing it for some, quote unquote, righteous position. And that that's how it's going to unfold. I imagine there's going to be another one today and another one tomorrow. And it's going to be the same people showing up. So I don't know if we've actually truly learned a lesson because we never seem to learn our lesson for more than four years at a time. Yeah, and you're talking Katie Wilson. She's a real peach, by the way. And you guys are going to have a massive problem with Somali frotterings as well in the state of Washington. They are rampant there. Jonathan Cho, who's with TPSA Frontlines, has been doing investigations on that. It's this is an emerging story that you guys are going to have to confront. I'm worried that if we don't squash this right now, Jason, with a massive show of force, which seems like we're going in the opposite direction, we're going to have an even tougher problem in cities like Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago, come the spring and summer months when the weather is better. So are you worried about seeing that as well? I mean, because you could let this stuff Peter out and then it flares up again. Peter out flares up again. Or you could squash it definitively. And I don't like seeing guys like Bovino be left out on, you know, to take, you know, take the rap for everybody here. I want to see us squash this. Yeah, he should not take the rap. However, I do think it's reasonable to say a criticism is that I don't think he handled this over the weekend particularly well. And I think the president is trying to clean that all up. The president has been really good about putting competent people in positions of power and just sort of letting them take the lead and he'll come in when he needs to. When he obviously needed to immediately calling Alex Pretty a domestic terrorist was a unwise decision. It was not going to play in the context of even the video that we had at the time to just merely jump to that that quickly, knowing that the left wing media is never, ever, ever going to be sympathetic to any messaging coming from ICE or coming from CBP or from this administration just seemed like an unforced error. I think the president is making the right move and putting Tom Homan in charge. For now, I don't think Bovino again, to your point, he shouldn't be just thrown under the bus for any of this. Now there should be. Now there should we do that to Christie? No. However, I don't think that they handled the messaging well in this case and it seemed to be put out there. In a way that I completely understand, right, wanting to immediately back your staff, whether again, it's border patrol, ICE or any law enforcement, makes sense because the context has been no matter what it is they do, they're going to be thrown under the bus by left wing media, they're going to be relentlessly attacked. And so the natural instinct is to protect them. But the way you protect them does matter. And the initial messaging went a little bit too far. They did it without the evidence on their side. And look, there were conservatives who called out some of the messaging around one's right to bear arms and have a concealed carry. You know, it's obviously not illegal in Minnesota to have concealed carry while going into a protest. It doesn't mean that what he did was wise. It very clearly wasn't. And had they focused on that, I think they would have won that messaging or at least had a little bit more of an upper hand. No, and I agree with you. 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I went to University of Washington. I appreciate Seattle. Very beautiful city, very crazy city. So these people are crazy. They are dangerous people. These are provocateurs, right? They are agitators. They're communists often. 302. This is an Antifa member. Get your reaction on the other side. Show up ready to go. Okay. No, no, not talking about peaceful protests anymore. We're not talking about having polite conversations anymore. Sorry, but welcome to America 2026, where Second Amendment is the only thing that's going to keep you protected from literal Nazi gunmen that are killing innocent people in the street with impunity. This is not a joke. There's nothing fun to chant about it. Get your guns and stop these people. That's probably your neighbor, Jason. How it might be. I mean, this is radical stuff. What we're supposed to do with it is call it out and ensure that this kind of messaging isn't normalized. And that's been the reality, I think, for the last several years is that kind of messaging was completely normalized, where you've got these sad people, lonely people, dangerous people who have convinced themselves that they're actual heroes, that they're freedom fighters. And if not for their violence and activism, we would be headed towards a fascist country. They believe we're already in that space. And that's the sad part. And that's why so many people, yourself included, myself included. We've talked about this for the last several years of when you've got radical leftists who are in positions of power, who are out there as recently as yesterday and over the weekend talking about how they're fighting Nazis, the Gestapo, they're fighting Adolf Hitler and Karnit. We know that that's incredibly dangerous. It's not just hyperbole. And they know it's not just hyperbole and that it's inspiring their base to commit these kinds of violent acts or at least threaten them. And, you know, the attention has to be on unnormalizing and stigmatizing. Again, this kind of language, the reality is there's always going to be crazy people out there and people get inspired by all sorts of things. The question is whether or not the messaging inspiring some of these people are delivered in good faith or not. And when you've got Anne Frank references by Tim Walsh, that's not delivered in good faith. When you've got Gavin Newsom out there, it's not delivered in good faith. It's intended to create this kind of violence and at least at a bare minimum, this kind of violent rhetoric. And they believe that they benefit from it because they keep getting rewarded by left-wing press for these kinds of statements. And, you know, the good news is, you know, that individual that you just played is Venmo was taken down. I believe that Instagram has been taken down. He now says he's on the run trying to now flip this into being some kind of victim. He's not the victim. He is the bad guy in the story. That's right. Speaking of bad guys and not normalizing bad behavior, you are in Seattle, so I have to ask you about the Super Bowl. Bad Bunny will dress to impress at the Super Bowl, but won't wear a dress. So this is new. This is breaking. Breaking. No dress. Breaking. No dress, Jason. So this is cowardice. He's just backing down. He blinked. He blinked. What? So give us your perspective. He should be wearing a dress or he should be performing. If you're going to go all in, you might as well just go, I want it all in Spanish and I wanted an address. Yeah. And so bad bunny, he did not include US and concert tours for fear in his tour. So he didn't include US and include US tour stops in his tour because of fear of ice raids. And, you know, now we're hearing Super Bowl 2026 ice agents to conduct enforcement as Trump boycotts the game. There's a lot of layers here to the Super Bowl. You are a Seattle resident. Give us your POV on the Super Bowl and in the much, much discussed half time show. Yeah, I will say this season has felt a little bit different that we've kind of gotten away from a lot of the wokeness. There's no doubt it's become less woke as a league. I enjoy watching hometown teams in whether it's a Super Bowl or a World Series, fingers crossed next year. So I'm not going to boycott something that I might actually enjoy because of a bunch of lunatics. I don't particularly care about the half time show. I didn't really know who bad bunny was when he became all controversial. I kind of heard of him, but not really followed anything. I will do what I normally do during the half time, which is just not watch. I focus on the game. And, you know, to the extent that anyone enjoys the Super Bowl, watch the Super Bowl. That's what you enjoy. Do not allow folks. I have to I have to interject here, Jason. We do have a all American halftime show that we would we would gladly welcome you to watch. It'll be all over X, all over YouTube, all over all over rumble. So, yep, there it is, the all American halftime show. We do not say the other word in that in that sentence for fear of legal reprisal. But to 825, all American halftime show. We're going to have more details on that next week. So please do stay tuned. But yeah, I mean, I think this is a really interesting touch point, actually, just as a culture, because, you know, we have a guy that seems to not really like America performing at the biggest stage that we have. And that's a that's a really unfortunate reality. Go ahead, Jason. It is. I just don't want to see that kind of power to these people to take away something that other people enjoy. It's the same thing. You know, I don't go out of my way to support people who don't support this country. But I also don't allow them to ruin something for me. And the Super Bowl is not about the halftime show. And to your point, there is some counterprogramming that's way better to consume. That's right. 15, 20 minutes. And that's what people should do. But I'm not going to say I'm going to boycott an entire league or a championship game because of some people on the radical left demanding it. If we seed over football or baseball or any sports to the left, then we're going to run out of things to enjoy. Seattle Red, check it out. Jason, Rance, thank you so much. Thanks, guys. Every day, Americans make choices that shape our country's future. Right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what most people don't realize. Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless provider. They're an activist organization funded by selling top tier cell phone service. They've been on the front lines defending our freedoms long before it was cool to do so. Standing in the gap when others wouldn't. 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Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show, Alex. Good to see you. We got the most popular slot. All of us do because we all want to walk in Russia's shoes and then Dennis's shoes and then Charlie's shoes. So everyone wants to be on a new Eastern. But yeah, you guys have been sounding amazing. I've been listening and you guys are doing a terrific job. And I'm really proud of both of you guys. So keep up the great work, please. Thank you. We are humble offering our meager offering here. But listen, we got to keep the mission moving forward. And we know that's what Charlie would want us to do. And you sometimes record out of Dennis's studio in Los Angeles, right? Yeah, that's where I'm at right now. I'm in the chair that was once occupied by our good friend, Dennis Prager, who is with us and as brilliant as ever, but did stuff for a catastrophic paralysis in an accident just over a year ago. And so luckily he's creating a lot of great content still, and I think we'll only create more. But I don't know if he'll be using this studio anymore. Then that's where I'm broadcasting live every day at noon for an hour, but it's on tape delay podcast feed. So by all means, there's plenty of time to catch both shows. That's right. Get it taped to late on. I have to do that because I have to rep our own stuff. Of course, absolutely. I understand. And I had the honor of joining you. I believe that's coming out in a few days. So that was great. Yes. In a couple of days, we'll probably a Thursday or Friday drop Andrew and I spent an hour together. I got to both of us got misty a couple of times. We go back a long ways and people who are listening to the show know that I go went back a very long way with Charlie back when he was a still high schooler sending me a tip at Breitbart News, which we requested that he write up himself. The thing was lightning in a bottle. He was all over Fox. He's all over talk radio. And that was one of several, I would say little roles I played in Charlie's rise that I'm so proud of and I'll be talking about forever. Yeah. I mean, that's it's really true. And actually that you're kind of getting to where my first question was going to start. And that is we don't probably have President Trump without Breitbart News. We don't have President Trump without Andrew Breitbart. I mean, you could go back even further. You are an expert at analyzing the current political moment. There is a lot of back and forth about all all of the illegals going home. Worst first this debate, how to message, how to the tactics. You got home and going up there. But Vino's out. Makes sense of it for us, Alex. Makes sense of this political moment and what the admin needs to do. Yeah, I think Trump's actually been kind of spot on on this, which is great. And he has a lot of proxies, but his instincts are kind of the best. And I think that if any of you watched the Zapruder film, which I'm sure everyone has broken it down, I don't know if it was a good shoot or not. There's smart people in my life who say it was. There's some smart people in my life who say it wasn't. And that's not really the point here. The point here is to clarify that the goal is to try to tone down the interplay of this taking place between the institutional, well funded, organized, left agitators and activists. They're not protesters. There's no protests going on. And you don't show up at a law enforcement operation armed with multiple magazines. If you're just protesting, you're doing this because you're trying to cause problems. And that's exactly what happened. And getting back on that messaging, but still understanding that we don't really know if this was a legal shooting or just shooting. And we got to let all that work out. And what we got to do is move on as fast as we can to things we want to talk about, which is deportations, which is wildly popular with Americans and cracking down on illegal immigrant and immigrant fraud that's happening in this country. We just got to pivot back there as fast as humanly possible. I trust Donald Trump to do that. And I'll tell you who else I trust. Tom Homan. It's not just that Bovino's getting moved off and Noam's getting moved off. That's a very small part of it. It's Tom Homan is the man. He was put on earth for these exact moments and putting him in charge of exactly the right move. Completely agree. I believe that Tom Homan is the perfect man for the job. And Blake, you made this point earlier. Messaging discipline. There's nobody better than messaging discipline experience. And it's a fine thing to navigate because they are in that position where you do need to change what the narrative is around it, but you can't retreat. You can't concede. You can't say they won. You certainly can't make it look like they won. And I think it's actually paying dividends that we have multiple sort of famous immigration hawks within DHS such that you can swap out personnel without making it look like a total tear down. Yeah. Well, this is interesting. I'm getting some breaking news here. Pima County, Arizona shooting incident occurred this morning near mile post 15 on our Vaca road. Border patrol officers are on the scene. We saw some new activity out of Arizona yesterday. Actually, you could throw this B roll up 334. ICE has been on on the scene here in Phoenix, Arizona, Maricopa County. And you're seeing the semblance that I think the beginning pieces of what we've seen in Minneapolis where they're organized. There's obviously some group chats there. They're monitoring these unmarked vehicles, these DHS cars, and they're attacking them. They're going after them to harass. And these young women apparently took a selfie with some ICE officers, apparently in support and they instantly got harassed and chased by activists. So this, so this is my whole point with this, this, what we're seeing in Minneapolis. We cannot be perceived to be weak. Now, if Trump can strike a deal, I'm with you. I trust Trump's instincts here. I think the pivot can be fine. I think some of the messaging was mishandled. I agree if these, you know, if they were omnipotent in this interaction with Freddie, they probably wouldn't have done, done what they did. They probably wouldn't have taken the shot. But you're completely right. It's beside the point. This gentleman should not have been impeding ICE officers. And by the way, again, we made the point earlier, this was not a protest. This was him trying to impede law enforcement. The protests happened after the shooting. OK, so he was obviously up to no good. Apparently, there's some other video that's coming out right now, Alex, it shows that he had an interaction with ICE about a week before. He's claiming that he was tackled by ICE officers or whatever. I don't care. Get the heck out of the way, let law enforcement do their job and by the for the love of God, the Trump administration cannot look weak on this. And I don't think that's going to happen here, but they cannot look weak. Are you guys afraid of being shot right now? Are you afraid? ICE is going to shoot you. No, why not? Because first of all, you're not a legal alien abating arrest and you're not a white, leftist, well-funded protester who's not really a protest. He's really an activist who's armed, who's showing up to agitate. The problem is, is that when people like Tim Walsh and people like Jacob Frye actually had acknowledged at least that there's Somali fraud going on, he's at least said for whatever reason that, yeah, there is some bad stuff happening here to his credit. But you saw what happens on CNN. You see what happens with Tim Walsh that there was no basis for ICE being here. Of course, there's a basis. We've all seen the videos. We all know what's happening with aliens in that part of the country. They're stealing taxpayer money. But here's the point here. The most important thing here is that for all of us to understand is that we cannot be perceived as weak because our eye on the ball needs to be that we are going to make America more affordable. We're going to make it safer. And they hate that. And that's really what they're protesting against. It's not even a protest, but they're doing it. They're trying to deliberately stop the enforcement of our laws because they know a lawless society is better for them politically. And we've got to be able to explain that to people in an efficient and effective way. And we've got to cut through the noise, which I think we can do, especially when they're running so far to the extreme where they're calling Steven Miller. The Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project was saying, Steven Miller needs to be hung. He seriously needs to be hung in public. You had that crazy guy with the pink P word hat on on CNN yesterday who was talking about how they're going to put people in ovens. That level of extremity, we need to use that to our advantage to point out that these people are truly radical and they have no sense of common sense. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. And we've got you've got my favorite guy here, Jimmy Kimmel, giving them air support because that's what he always do. This is from about a week ago, but it it plays three thirty nine. They're trying out a new slogan. Donald J. Trump is going to kill you. He isn't just killing people overseas. An ICE agent today shot and killed an unarmed 37 year old woman during an ICE operation in Minneapolis. They were there under the guise of protecting us. I want to see two ice. Get the. And now you've got Stephen Colbert screaming from the top of his lungs. You guys have this up on Breitbart Colbert screams F ice. Kimmel is crying and John Stuart rants after gun about guns after latest federal agent involved shooting. So the air supports coming in. They think they're going to win the hearts and minds here. And I just want everybody to be very clear that this is a tactic. They harass. They get they get martyrs. So they get some casualties. Then they play victim. The martyring part is really essential because I don't know what was in Alex Pretty's heart, but I know that if he was trying to commit suicide by ice, he would have not behaved any differently. That's exactly how he behaved is in a way that was designed so that he would get killed and then he would become a martyr. Now I don't know. I have no idea if that's what his intention was, but I know that that is a playbook now that can be followed and now I just be extra careful. And they have an important job to do. They're trying to enforce our immigration and custom laws. That's all they're there to do. They're not there to do anything else. They probably don't even want to be there. They'd probably rather be at home, but they're there deployed to try to enforce what's clearly immigration violations is taking place in the area. And so their lives can be made difficult when these media cycles play out the way they have, because what's happened now is this is penetrated in the broader culture of people who are not following shows like this or content like ours. People who are just casual observers of the news and they hear, wow, I shot a guy. They're cold blooded and they don't hear the contacts. They don't hear any sort of corrections that take place. And that is something where we need to be very conscious. And I think President Trump is, to be honest with you. Yeah, I mean, Blake, I love your thoughts on this because, you know, you have been advocating for less, I guess, boisterous, performative tweeting from DHS. What you want here is you, what the base wants is they want proof that it's working. And for a lot of people, like the, the boisterous stuff, the, the performative stuff, it's kind of a way of showing like, Hey, we're serious about this. We have credibility on this. But I think the base will also just accept the clear, obvious signs that what you're doing is working. In fact, the freakouts of the left are often all the proof you need that this is happening. So you don't necessarily need a big cart, like a meme of someone like solving as they're like taken away in a helicopter or whatever. As long as the left is freaking out and it's very clear that this is, this is all happening, that you're getting the job done. That's what the base will be satisfied with. It's just like with the border, you don't need infinity memes that the border is closed. The border is closed. Everyone knows it. And that's the victory. Yeah, it's interesting. I hate this article from the Wall Street Journal, but it says this is backfiring against Republicans. Waltz is happy. And they call the calm strategy the own the libs strategy for DHS. Maybe they have a point there. Hi folks, Andrew Colvette here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y-Refy. You've probably been hearing me talk about Y-Refy for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. Y-Refy will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. 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So broke rib and confrontation with federal agents a week before death, sources say. So that's an interesting wrinkle. He was apparently known to law enforcement in Minneapolis. So. Fascinated detail. I don't know what to necessarily make of that, but obviously this was a person that was devoting his life and his time to confronting law enforcement, to stopping ICE, the definition of an anti ICE organizer. So there's that. I want to take our attention in a slightly different direction. Alex, this is Jennifer Welch, who's now made a name for herself as being a basically the most vile person that you see on social media. She's attacking white evangelical Christianity in this clip. We'll play it, Alex, and get your take on the other side. 333 evangelical Christianity is a cancer. These are the worst of our country. They use their religion in two ways, as a weapon and as a shield. They weaponize it whenever they want to and say, we're on the moral high ground. You're a lesbian. You deserve to die. You're a lesbian. The cops shouldn't have revived you. Oh, your parents are Mexicans and they brought you over here. Yeah, you should go to jail and eat worm food. And then when you call them out on it, oh, my God, they're after the Christians. How dare they? How dare they? We're so oppressed. White Christians are so oppressed in this country. And it should come as no surprise to anyone that of this cult that I'm talking about, white evangelicals over 80 percent went voted triple Trump. This person is basically it's if you read about like the Rwanda genocide, there is a thing called Hutu radio. So it was the Hutus and Tutsis and Hutu radio. It was basically just this radio station that broadcasts constant anti Tutsi propaganda about, you know, called them cockroaches, things like that. And this woman just feels like that for, well, white evangelical Christian America. Like a lot of that is just insane lies. And she does it nonstop all the time. Like she's kind of she's the final boss of of offals as it were. Very, very dark woman. And man, we're probably going to be stuck with her a long time. But she's a lunatic, like a very, a very hateful lunatic. And like you can just tell like this woman, this woman would be like having that not that incredibly sinister grin of hers as she funnels you into a gas chamber or whatever. She's good at the otherizing language. Alex, your reaction. Yeah, I love the content. I mean, it is pure evil. It just also false. I mean, Christians tend to be way more charitable. They spend way more time volunteering. I mean, I can't tell you how all the horrible stuff said about Christians is some of them, I think do badly, but they at least mean well. And a lot of them as a percentage spend a lot more of their time doing productive things for our society. And I feel like as we've gotten more secular, we've certainly gotten less happy. We have more crime. We have less optimism. So I think we should would all benefit from a more Christian revival approach to society. That's my take. Obviously she disagrees, but I'm just very pro her saying this stuff publicly because if you want to hold up this person who is so unappealing is so unconvincing is so angry and so petty as a champion of their values. This makes me very positive. This is the thing is that when you look at their slate of spokespeople right now, the tampoon Timmy walls, I mean, these people are so unlikeable. They're so uncharismatic. They're so full of baloney that I think that it is just a remarkable opportunity for the rest of us, especially happy warriors in the Christian faith in particular to stand up and say, we're not going to tolerate any of this. And we're going to beat it. You know what struck me with that clip is she you could you could insert LGBTQ. You could insert Black America. You could insert any of their preferred victim groups, their marginalized groups, their special interest groups, and that would be a hundred percent true of basically any leftist flavor of the week. And so it just strikes me as this massive projection. And to your point, Christians are the best of this country. Yeah, we're not perfect. Yeah, we make mistakes, but you try having an America without Christianity and it will fail. The country that she's enjoying the country that she's blessed to be in, whether she acknowledges it or not is a blessing because it is good. And why is it good is because it's Christian roots. This is something Charlie talked about so much, so much. That is what makes America great, actually, is how great people are. To look at this at a literal point where she says that evangelical Christianity is a cancer and these are the worst people in the country. Well, they're the worst because they're threatening to her because we tend to vote conservative. And that's the main thing to understand is that we people of faith believe that God is above all else, God family. And then maybe politics is third for us. Maybe it's fourth behind career, stuff like that. It's a but for the left right now, it's politics above all else. They believe that politics is their guiding principle and the ends justify the means in order for them to achieve political victory. And just note that if there's a group of people who are God fearing, who pay their taxes, who are not criminals, who do a lot of volunteer work, or give a lot to charity, they do not care. If you don't support their guy politically, if you support the opposite side, the Donald Trump side, then you are inherently bad and wrong. And it's very important to understand that because there's not a lot of a place where we can agree. There is a huge amount of daylight between the two positions in this country. And that's relatively new where there's such a big gulf. I totally agree. We actually talked about this in our conversation, Alex, and this is the Charlie Kirk show. So we're going to play a clip of Charlie talking about just this 345. John Adams, seamlessly said, the Constitution was only written for a moral religious people. It was wholly inadequate for the people of any other. The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord. One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government and they're incompatible. So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population. I'll never forget watching that live. I looked at the team. A longer clip that I'd love to play, which don't have enough time, but I think you're right, Alex. This is a threat to her, her way of life. A Christianity is a threat to her cult. Her, the left really is a cult. It's an ideological cult and she knows that we're a threat and we should become a bigger threat and organize even, even in greater measure. Alex, final 30 seconds to you. Yeah, I'm optimistic that with the message of Charlie, with what you guys are carrying forward, what I'm trying to do and so many others like us, that this will just fuel people to get focused. You play this clip to someone who is not a hardcore leftist and this woman is completely insane. I don't want anything to do with anything she's associated with. So that's why I'm going to keep playing clips like this myself. Amen. Alex Marlowe, host of the Alex Marlowe show, editor in chief of Breitbarton, breaking the law is also out. So check out that book. Your breaking series is really important, Alex. Charlie was a big believer in it. Thank you for making the time. My friend will see you soon. You guys stick with it. You guys are doing a great job. 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